Vaccination Discussion Board

| Modified on Nov 23, 2021

Warnings
Posted by Ben (Bremerton, Washington ) on 03/02/2016

In typical fda fashion looking out for drug company interests rather than us, the fda is fast tracking approval of a deadly vaccine adjuvant called fluad. This was tested in gulf war soldiers being called at the time mf -59. Today more than 675 thousand soldiers are suffering effects believed to be as a result of exposure to this vaccine adjuvant and other harmful chemicals added to the witches brew we call vaccines.

The main component of mf-59 is squalene. This oil based chemical was originally called freund's adjuvant after the doctor who developed it.

What doctor freund found was when he injected squalene or as he called it freund"s adjuvant the test animals suffered the most horrific immune system reactions which caused extreme autoimmune symptoms. The immune system would literally go berserk and begin attacking healthy tissues .

Many of you have trusted your doctor rolled up your sleeve and got vaccinated. Today you might be sick and have no explanation of why you are sick. Well a simple test exists to check and see if squalene might be harming you. Your doctor can give you a test for antisqualene antibodies.

The drug companies like squalene and plan to introduce much more of this deadly substance into future vaccines. Do your homework , study this deadly chemical adjuvant before it ruins your health http://www.vaccines.news/2015-11-01-fda-expediting-approval-process-for-deadly-flu-shot-linked-to-autoimmune-disorders-paralysis-and-fatalities.html.

Flu Shots
Posted by Kelly (Cambridge, Ma) on 10/17/2016

While I have nothing data-driven or scientific to report regarding flu shots, I can tell you that I never get them anymore.

I've only had a flu shot twice in my life (I'm 58) and both times, I was sick all winter! The first time, I chalked it up to being a fluke, but after I'd skipped a couple of years, then decided to get another one, I was sick all winter that year, too.

I've always had a strong immune system (knock wood). I go years without so much as a head cold. My last cold was 5 years ago. Everyone around me can be hacking and sneezing, and somehow, I manage to escape the cooties. ;-)

When I was sick off/on all winter the two times I got the flu shot, I put two and two together and stopped getting the shots.

When my doctor suggests the shot every year and I decline, explaining what I did here, he says; "It's a fallacy that flu shots can make you sick." Fallacy/schmallacy; if it ain't broke, don't fix it! ;-)


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Prioris (Fl, Usa) on 03/05/2014

Vaccines are part of a global depopulation agenda. They will harm your childs health for many years to come and expose them to autism, chronic diseases and cancer. You need to do what is necessary to protect the child. F--- the countries vaccination laws. The people making such laws should be put on trial for crimes against humanity and treason.

e.g.

"1918-1919 Smallpox epidemic resulted in 60,855 deaths. (2) with over 95% of the population vaccinated, the worst epidemic in the Philippine's history occurred resulting in a case mortality of 65%. The highest percentage occurred in the capital Manila, the most thoroughly vaccinated place. The lowest percentage occurred in Mindanao, the least vaccinated place owing to religious prejudices. (2)"

I would find someone who gives the vaccines and ask them if they can just give you certification without a vaccine shot. You could pay them a little money as an incentive if necessary. I would do whatever I had to in order to protect my child from vaccinations.


Guilliain Barre
Posted by Mari (Los Angeles) on 11/23/2021

I know of 2 women who were affected by flu shots. Back in 1976 when there was the Swine Flu scare, the mother-in-law of a gal I worked with was paralyzed from it. Another friend's mother got a flu shot before a trip on an ocean liner up to Alaska. On her return, she began complaining of her legs not holding her up. Fortunately, she was diagnosed with Guillaine Barre and they stopped the paralysis in time.


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Lisa (Freedom, Wi) on 02/29/2012

My daughter developed tics and twitches when she was in 1st grade. I tried curing these things with every holistic supplement I could find pertaining to them... When she got to about 5th grade the tics had become so bad that she told me she wanted to die :( I screamed out to GOD and told him she needed to be cured. Within days I came across a product called 369 iodine. I bought it and put her on it and it worked Immediately! She is now in 8th grade and the tics and twitches are completely gone!

DO NOT vaccinate your children, this was the cause of my daughters tics, she had only a few vaccines before GOD spoke to me and told me to stop. I now know why he told me to stop! This is truly a miracle and if people do not realize that vaccines are the greatest hoax ever to all of mankind they are putting themselves at risk of doing great harm or even death to their child/ children. God bless.


T-Dap Vaccination
Posted by Holly (Georgia, US) on 10/13/2020

I know your comment is really old but I hope you see my response.

I had a tetanus shot years ago and developed horrible cystic acne all over my face. It wasn't until I started taking full flush niacin (for another health issue) that my face cleared up. Niacin detoxes the liver. The flush version is the kind you want for detox. Make sure you prepare yourself for the flush if you haven't had one. The first time can be a little weird. I mistakenly took time released naicin once and it spiked my liver enzymes whereas pure niacin has never done that.

You will hear people say niacin can hurt your liver but I believe the flush free and time release are the harmful ones.

Anyway, my fave is fully clear now. The tdap isn't even necessary because tetanus is in animal feces. So, unless you step on something sharp that pierces your skin and then step in horse feces, it's HIGHLY unlikely you'll get tetanus. Also, tetanus is killed instantly by oxygen so if you ever do get poked with something and it breaks the skin, hydrogen peroxide would kill any potential tetanus.


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Valerie (Utah) on 06/29/2015

Now that California is requiring immunizations to get into school, I'm wondering if there is a way to pull the immunization toxicity from the body to minimize the damaging effects.

Flu Shots
Posted by Ole Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn. ) on 09/29/2014

HI U APV, , , , , , , YEP , you from Calif. and you are preaching to the wrong group. Most on this site don't trust Allopathics. It's a greed thing.

======OLE ROBERT HENRY========


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee) on 07/01/2015

Dear Valerie,

Doing things to boost the immune system before vaccines, should help your child to deal better with the vaccine. Things like Vitamin C, Vitamin D, healthy food and less sugar.

Astragalus Root is a gentle but effective herb and used as food in some cultures. Taking this daily will help the body to fight infections.

You can buy or make Elderberry Syrup. It is great for the immune system and easy to get children to take. Taking it a few days before, the day of, and several days after a vaccine should be helpful.

Children get lots of vaccines at once. This is sometimes part of the problem - the immune system gets overwhelmed. If possible, space vaccines out. This may mean more trips to the doctor's office, but will be less of a stress to the child's immune system. If your child needs vaccines to go to school, you may be able to work out a schedule for vaccinations that would delay the beginning of the vaccines until the child is a little older. Getting vaccines spaced out when a child is between 2-4 years old instead of having a whole bunch the first year of life, will be less of a stress on the system.

~Mama to Many~


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 02/18/2012 2081 posts

Erin, I am responding as a concerned amateur individual that can only echo the caution you are displaying on the issue of vaccines. Independent studies and record analyst of personal testimonies and culturally indifferent people like Minnonites & Amish verify the connection of vaccines and illnesses like autism, in particular. I have a family member that had an "episode" during early development that no one could identify the cause. He screamed & yelled continually for hrs on end and was extremely frantic for several weeks, and afterward became autistic. From a spiritual perspective it was speculated that there was the possibility of demonic activity and intercessory prayers were applied w/ some noticeable results (it was a very disturbing experience, the suffering of this child).

Anyway, there are two ways to approach this issue (as is most all the issues of disease & health): 1. Avoidance 2. Intervention. In an effort to not totally exclude the benefits of vaccines, I would try to minimalise the number of V's to only the most important ones and never take multiple V's in one instance (space them out over several mo's or even yrs). If any sign of bad side effect occurs, it's intervention time. What the professionals are recommending I don't know, but some simple home remedies might or should help. A simple Epsom Salt / Baking Soda warm bath would go a long way to aid the detoxification and elimination of anything harmful like mercury. As a precautionary, I would supplement the mineral Selenium for several days prior to V's because Sel binds Mercury and eliminates it safely out of the body.

My two cents.


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Cameron (Brisbane, Qld, Australia) on 02/19/2012

Yes, you are right to be concerned. There are no good reasons to vaccinate and millions of reasons not to. Adjuvents, include aluminum and other toxic substances. Whistleblowers report nearly all vaccine lots are contaminated with foreign matter, including fecal and dead tissue from animal sources amongst other things. Rarely are the diseases vaccinated against fatal. Like incredibly rare, you are more likely to suffer from fatal or disabling lifetime side effects from the vaccine than the disease, read ADHD, Autism and Seizures to name 3 only.

Look for the equivalent of a Conscientious Objection Form then be prepared to be forced by Big Government and Big Pharma to get them anyway. If they force you to get them give your child a level teaspoon of Charcoal mixed in Juice or something straight away, this works for my daughters Chemo drugs and has been demonstrated with poison. Charcoal is what Hospitals here use for drug overdoses, it works almost instantly.


Kidney Transplants and the Flu Vaccine
Posted by Charity (Faithville, US) on 08/05/2019

I would like to pull Teds' information for heavy metal poisoning into this current site so here is the link https://ted.earthclinic.com/cures/detox-heavy-metals-side-effects.html I would also encourage you to go on youtube and visit Eric Berg teachings on cortisol and how to turn it off and restoration of gut health


Flu Shots
Posted by Patti B (Pa) on 10/24/2018

I was wondering how people feel about getting the flu shot. I am 58 and have never had one. I know of 2 people that contracted Guillain Barre Syndrome after receiving a flu shot. Coincidence?

Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Timh (Ky) on 07/01/2015 2081 posts

V: So glad you asked this question as it is of utmost importance. So many people (professional health care providers included) that constantly spout out the "dangers of vaccines" yet never provide any prevention (something they preach) strategies.

So, here's my take. Mercury alone is very toxic, so supplementing Selenium will go a long way in preventing problems. To be exact, there are a number of vitamins & minerals that aid in detox & metabolism so supplementing a high quality health food store brand children's vit/min will go a long way (plus the extra Selenium). But there are several more toxic ingredience that require removal. Two easy detox methods are Detox Foot Pads and Oil Pulling.

If none of the above methods prevent the occasion of autism-like symptoms, an MMS minimal daily dose will clean up all toxic residues. You can read more at Genesis 2 Church of Health and Healing.


Flu Shots
Posted by Namaw (Bama) on 10/16/2016

I normally would avoid the flu shot. due to my dh's very poor health, I do take it. It would just kill me for him to get the flu and deteriorate further, so I'll risk it. You need to weigh the risks--how much exposure will you have to mom and baby? Do you practice good health hygiene? I know that my DD keeps the grandkids away if anything is going around school and, if they must be around him, then they are extra careful about using tissues, hand washing, etc. He's been ill their entire lives, so they've been well trained.


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Lucena (Leyte, Philippines) on 03/05/2014

Prioris from Fl, Usa, Thank you very much. I wish I could take my granddaughter and bring her to the Philippines. All my four daughters are without vaccines.


HPV Vaccination Side Effects
Posted by Jessie (Riverdale, Md) on 09/02/2013

Gracie,

I am not aware of anything to reverse the vaccine. But, whatever you can do to boost her health will be of help to her. Juicing is great for boosting anyone's health. Check on this site for information on castor oil packs to help detoxify her liver. One of my children had a bad vaccine reaction when he was 4 months old. It was very scary at the time. So, he and our other children are unvaccinated since then. Even though my son had a bad reaction, he is now and adult and has great health. Your daugther is blessed to have a mama who cares so much. Jessie


Adult Immunizations
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee, Usa) on 08/07/2013

Sara, I don't blame you for your caution about getting the shots. I know someone who was recently very ill from a shot so he could travel to another country. Personally, if it were me, and I had the option to not get the shots, I would find out what diseases were of concern in the area I was going, and I would take with me natural remedies to treat them, as well as things that might be helpful to prevent. Also, if I ever left the country I would take with me charcoal powder, garlic, turmeric, and maybe some other things: I would have to think about it. (I don't even leave my house without charcoal and peppermint essential oil! :) )

I have been reading some about natural treatments for malaria (including charcoal powder and papaya leaf tea or tincture.)

Hope you have a great and healthy trip!

~Mama to Many~


Adult Immunizations
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 04/25/2013 2081 posts

Cindy: Your question is of such importance, as immunizations and vaccinations have big benefits, but some come with bad side effects. From my little perspective, I think that one must first not have too many immunizations done in a short time period (which is what I think is the standard). Rushing multiple immunizations for travel can cause some bad side effects, imho. It seems too much of a complex shock to the immune system. Also, there could be interactions with currently used medication (prescribed or otc).

As for typical vaccines like "flu shots" which are now administered at drive-thru pharmacies, I would take 500 mg Methionine and Cilantro 1 hr prior to the vaccine and 200mcg Selenium following to prevent any toxic Mercury complications. Repeat this supplement the following day for safety sake. A pair of detox foot pads before retiring the day of vaccine would also chelate any toxic Mercury.


Adult Immunizations
Posted by Cc (City Of Lights, Rainbow State) on 04/25/2013

Here's what one nurse did:

Here's Becky's letter to the higher-ups at the hospital:

I am writing to formally defend my decision to decline the influenza vaccination. I have made this decision based on strong moral and ethical convictions that are supported by my religious beliefs, medical research and legal precedent.

Medical research indicates that the efficacy of the influenza vaccination is grossly exaggerated (1)..."

More: http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2012/02/healthcare-workers-how-to-refuse-mandatory-vaccines-and-not-get-fired.html


Flu Shots
Posted by Carly (Seattle, Wa - Usa) on 12/04/2012

Hi Fellow EC'ers, I have noticed in the past few days that all of the media - be it television, radio, newspapers, etc. are pushing flu shots for ALL - hard and heavy PUSHING them at us.

There are clinics at the supermarket and local drug stores. The media says that the government is extra happy as the strain coming in (EXTRA EARLY, and EXTRA CATCHY! ) seems to be a GOOD MATCH for the shots they are putting out.

I saw THREE television shows today saying we all need flu shots.... From my local news, "The DOCTORS" and the great and powerful "Doctor OZ". All in one afternoon!

I am not the sharpest tool in the shed by any means, but I DO know that the flu shot contains mercury. I do know that the mortality rates quoted for the flu (35, 000 a year!!! ) are actually NOT from the flu, but from complications of the flu (ie pneumonia).

If anyone has any thoughts they would like to share on the flu and flu shots, I would love to hear them.

Stay well, Carly :-)

Travel Vaccinations
Posted by Diane (Berkeley, Ca) on 12/30/2011

I've traveled in India, including Kerala, and I've only ever taken Hep A and Typhoid. I wouldn't miss those.


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Sadie (Gwent, Uk) on 10/09/2011

My toddler is over two and a half years old, he was breastfed for two years - only stopping due to second difficult pregnancy. Before I was any the wiser I allowed him to have the first lot of his vaccination at two months of age, following these he was quite ill - severe diarrohea for months on end. Doctors refused to admit it was the vaccine but from that point I refused to continue with them.

He has struggled to tolerate dairy and developed asthma (his dad has history of chronic asthma on his side and I suffer with nut allergies). He is on non dairy alternatives where possible - non soy and there are improvement. However his asthma and cough which is quite bad are continuing and never resolving despite the recommended remedies am trying to implement as shown on this site. I am going to give him coconut oil in his food as he refuses to take it neat.

My question is, can anyone recommend a way to reverse the impact of that first set of vaccinations which I feel caused his asthma and cough.

Please help.

Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Heather (Jerusalem, Israel) on 10/09/2011

Dear Sadie,

Yes you can reverse the vaccination reactions of your toddler. You will need 2 things: vitamin D (start with 3,000 units every day for 7 days and then reduce to 1,000units a day thereafter). Dr John Cannell has done wonders with vitamin D for children in all aspects: autism, ADHD, vaccination side effects. His assumption is that vitamin D corrects DNA in imparied cells in the body.

The second thing you need is to detox the child of the heavy metals that were in the vaccine. This is done most easily with clay baths on a regular basis. Either sodium bentonite clay or calcium bentonite green clay.

Have no doubt that with these two his symptoms will be alleviated greatly. May he receive the grace to grow up healthy and strong.


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Heather (Jerusalem, Israel) on 10/10/2011

Dear Sadie,

For the clay bath instructions you can checkout sources: 1) Carolyn Dean MD - she has very specific dosages for clay baths with sodium bentonite clay.

Have seen the most wonderful results with detox and more with calcium bentonite green clay. A friend of mine could get concepted but not hold the pregnancy because of heavy metals in her cervix and uterus (probably from tampons) and she drank the clay every day for three months and has now conceived and holding the pregnancy well. She was trying for three years. Also good results with other people for other applications. But you have a todler. He won't drink the clay. So give him clay baths. They will leach the heavy metals and impurities from the skin. Parents of autistic children do this and see results as soon as several months.

For vit. D read the website of: The Vitamin D Council

And yes - it is International Units.

regards - Heather


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Debbie (Melbourne, Australia ) on 10/10/2011

You need to supplement with iodine, and also its companions (that act in cohesion with iodine) magnesium, vitamin D and also vitamin c (taken at an alternate time). Magnesium is best taken transdermally (magnesium chloride or epson salts (magnesium sulphide) in bath water will reach body quicker than tablet form. Also brazil nuts (selenium) are needed to be taken with iodine as well (they could be crushed) in food.

Iodine is a heavy metal detoxer but has many other elements as well.

Autistic children have also been helped by the above protocol. Google "austim iodine"

Research iodine - it protect the body against heavy metals but most of us are now hugely deficient and the deficiency is passed to children through the mothers.


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Andoy (Boise, Id) on 10/10/2011

Try to Google Edgar Cayce-vaccinations. He's got good points on vaccination.


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Jenny (Sydney, Australia) on 10/13/2011

Hi Debbie, where do you get reasonably priced Epsom salts in Australia? I buy them but they tend to be quite expensive for small amounts and if you are bathing your son in 1/2 to 1kg each time you must go through them quickly. Thanks for your tips!


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Debbie (Melbourne, Australia ) on 10/14/2011

Hi Sadie, no worries. He was born at 26 weeks & came home on oxygen. He has a chronic lung disease which I was told he will slowly grow out of. His asthma wasn't too bad but he wheezed a lot. I used to put him in the bathroom with the shower running hot water if his wheezing got too bad. I did use the ventalin a few times during the night. He always had a wheeze but never really coughed a lot with it. He did get bronchiolytis and then croup (with stridor) so bad he stayed in the ICU o/n on oxygen. He was very prone to getting sick quite a lot.

One more thing with asthma that is very important.. vitamin D (the sun). A low level of vitamin D has been linked to asthma and low immune system. Kids are now going to school and kinder with hats and sunscreen and never get any sun during the day (and they are getting sicker).. Not to mention the sunscreens are full of toxins. We also drive with sun tints on our cars & wear sunglasses so don't get much sun either.

I give my son liquid chlorophyll, spirulina and chlorella all of which contain vitamin D as well as getting him outside in the sun as much as possible. I also give him liquid minerals.


Chicken Pox
Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca) on 09/09/2009

I just thought I should reassure you. I have 5 kids ranging from 10 to 24 yrs. old and none have been immunized. I made that decision long ago after lots of research and was challenged often back then. I fortunately, had an amazing pediatrician who backed me because he said I had made an informed decision, one from researching and questioning rather than of ignorance. Chicken pox is actually a childhood disease that naturally occurs and from my own understanding, according to Chinese medicine, it is a way for the child to detox all the toxins it takes in while in utero. Your child's age is a good age for him to get them as at that age they usually are not that critical. When my children would get it, I would expose my other children to get it because it's not something you want as you get older. My third child had it the worst of the five but he is now 20 and a very healthy young man. All of my kids have been very healthy- rarely ever sick and I attribute that partly to choosing non- vaccinating. It's a controversial subject. Hope this helps you.

Sincerely, Lisa


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Woog (Kl, Malaysia) on 08/05/2009

I would like to comment on vaccinations. My first child got 3 jabs because the pediarician threaten me and I was not informed nor educated on the matter. I heard from a direct-selling company founder that she did not vax her later kids and they were healthy. But that's all the info I got.

After d 3rd jab, seeing my 1 month old cry pierced my heart. I sat down and search all that I can online about vaccinations. I was shocked. It took me a long time to read and I never finished reading. There was just too much info, too much damaged. I didn't want to be another statistic.

Parents. I urge all of u to read up. My 2nd child never got a single jab and she is much healthier than the elder one. Do some comparison. Vaccinated vs Unvaccinated Kids. My children never had to be admitted into a hospital nor have they ever need to visit a doctor. I breastfeed them fully. It's not eay nor it is always convenient. BUT it is worth it. Just a few years and u get helthy kids. Take responsibility on what you put in your child's mouth. Dun give them candies, colas, junk food and expect them to be healthy.

Fever, flu, coughs and childhood diseases are part and parcels of growing up. This site has a lot of great advises which I refer to aside from reading "How to Raise a Healthy Child In Spite of YOur Doctor" Always take responsibility for your own child. Research and ask till you find something that you are comfortable with.

Ppl, friends, relatives around me dun believe or support my decision but I have 2 healthy children to show. Never given them any medication. 4 and 1 plus children.

Keep up the good work EarthClinic. I am always recommending your website to my friends. I rather try natural remedies first. Never had to use drugs so it goes to show, natural remedies work.

Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Selena (Chula, Ga) on 08/05/2009

I have a form that I typed up for myself and a few friends that do not have their children vaccinated (as well as myself used for college and nursing job.) I would be happy to forward it to anyone interested. They can not force you to have your children vaccinated. I even used it 10 years ago for my daughter in daycare. BY the way...the daycare RN called me one morning and said all of the children in my daughter's group had broken out with a strange looking form of chicken pox. My daughter is the only one who did not get it and she was the only one who had not received the chicken pox vaccine, however she did get chicken pox 1 year later after I purposely exposed her to a neighbor's child with it. (Just like my mother did me). Vaccines are dangerous. Do your research and don't get your information from your doctor. Your children are worth it.


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Woog (Kl, Malaysia) on 08/07/2009
5 out of 5 stars

My kids are still young. I guess I will worry about school when time comes. I may opt to homeschool my kids. I can't publicly tell you my other option but u can email me if u really wanna know.

If you look up websites recommended in Earthclinic, you can find that in US, you have a lot of ways to handle the issue of vaccination and school enrolment. Pretty easy and convenient. You can also try to contact ppl from those websites.

Health is more important. Find a school that will accept your unvax kids. I rather haf the inconvenience of homeschooling them then to have to take care of them my whole life should they be damaged by vaccines. I haf seen damaged done but docs will never say it's from vax.

If they are no longer able to take care of themselves, how are they gonna learn in the first place. At anytime, I rather have a not-so-smart kids than have kids who are not even able to take care of their own basic needs like bathing, eating, etc.

Being in the US, you have great homeschooling materials. Here, it is not that widely accepted and materials are not all that cheap or available. SO you have an advantage.

Weigh your choices. Good Luck!


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Foxy Moron (Camp Casey, Tongduchon, South Korea) on 10/30/2008
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I read the article and am sitting here writing this email with tears in my eyes.

I was a US Soldier in 2003 when I was wrongfully diagnosed, by a 3rd world doctor, with cervical cancer. I was told to wait for the lab results but that I would likely need to have the essence of my feminity removed.

The day before my scheduled surgery, a happy accident occured. My so-called physician was out for the day and the director of the hospital attended to me. After looking at my records carefully, he deduced that my results had been misread and he gave me another cervical exam.

I did not have cancer, only cervical inflammation. (I was a newly wed.)

He injected me with the HPV vaccine and within 5 minutes, I was dismissed and released for work.

I come from "hearty breeding stock" as does my husband. I've never had issues with my cycles and have been looking forward to having children for years. We've been trying to conceive for over 5 years and I haven't come up pregnant- not once.

It kills me to think that the medical community will think nothing of spending billions of dollars on Viagra and yet balk at the thought of helping women save their ... I don't know, their self-worth. I feel like I've been gypped. I feel robbed. Like the male doctors think my femaleness is a liability and not worth saving.


Shingles Vaccine Reactions
Posted by Mari (Los Angeles, CA) on 11/23/2021
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Has anyone had a reaction to a shingles vaccine and do you know of any MD's or natural health practitioners who know how to treat a reaction to it? At the suggestion of her physician, a friend of mine had a Zostavax shot back in 2015 and within a week her head and neck started itching from these pimples that started erupting. This reaction has NOT gone away and just keeps getting worse. It's like she has had shingles for six years! Because of the number of adverse reactions to Zostavax, it was taken off the market in 2018. Knowing what she knows now, my friend has said she wished she had said "no" to the shot because if she had come down with shingles she would have been over it in a couple of months. She has tried a lot of natural and pharmaceutical treatments, but nothing really helps.


Kidney Transplants and the Flu Vaccine
Posted by Wendy (Columbus, OH) on 03/11/2019

Has anyone, with a kidney transplant, received the flu vaccine? My docs, at each and every visit, continue to ask if I've gotten it, and I say no (because I won't get it) and try not to go into details as to why I won't get it since the doc's eyes start to glaze over! I have never, ever had the flu in my 64 years of life (big knock on wood, of course), and rarely get sick, even with a cold or cough. I maintain a healthy lifestyle, including almost being "anal" when it comes to washing my hands, and cleansing my surrounding areas (desk at work, my PC keyboard & phone with alcohol wipes, etc.).

I'm really concerned about the possibility (listen to the March 5, 2019 senate hearing at https://www.help.senate.gov/hearings/vaccines-save-lives-what-is-driving-preventable-disease-outbreaks) of the flu vaccine being MANDATORY for fear I would unavoidably get the flu from the vaccine itself. Since I'm on immuno-suppressant drugs for the rest of my life, I fear that the vaccine would cause irreparable damage to my own system. Any comments, insights, FACTS, would be appreciated!

Warnings
Posted by Mari (Los Angeles) on 11/23/2021

Yeah, the old Gulf War Syndrome.


Flu Shots
Posted by Apv (San Jose, California) on 09/28/2014

At least for me, it used to be that you went to a hospital every fall and got a flu shot. Well, it turns out there are not only multiple types of flu shots and methods of administration, they don't quite contain the same stuff.

A table with some of the ingredients is shown to get you started on your research.

http://www.fda.gov/B...s/ucm094045.htm

When viral proteins are injected into the body, the immune system learns to recognize them (sensitization) and then on subsequent exposure to the proteins it begins to attack them (elicitation). Unfortunately, any other proteins injected with the vaccine are treated the same way. Once sensitized to the injected protein, future exposure to the protein elicits an attack known as an allergic reaction.

Details and references are here:
http://foodallergyca...allergy-causes/

Intranasal: the risk is injecting live viruses on to your olfactory nerve that is millimeters away from your brain.
There may also be adventitious agents in the vaccine. In other words, unintentional contamination of the vaccine by viruses/bacteria/amoeba etc..

Intradermal: the risk is skin cells/proteins are torn by the needle and injected along with the vaccine.
If your body develops an allergy to these skin proteins, you can develop immune system related skin disorders such as eczema.

Intramuscular:the risk is skin and muscle cells/proteins are torn by the needle and injected along with the vaccine.
If your body develops an allergy to these muscle proteins (one of which is tropomyosin), you can develop immune system disorders as the immune system attacks any tissue containing tropomyosin. Tropomyosin is present in the brain and the intestines. So disorders can include autism, ulcerative colitis, irritable bowel syndrome etc.

and of course seafood allergy.
http://www.sciencefo...mune-disorders/

Polysorbate 80 contains vegetable oils. Depending on the type of vegetable oil used, it can cause the development of allergies to various food items - food allergies.
http://www.sciencefo...gen-regulation/

Ovalbumin in vaccines can cause the development of allergy to egg.

Formaldehyde is a known carcinogen but your body creates a small amount of it too.

Mercury is a well known toxin for which there is no safe amount.

Triton X-100 can damage cells.

HA is the viral protein. The "active ingredient" of a flu vaccine.

Insect proteins when injected into the body can cause the development of allergy to those insect proteins.
Flublok uses cells from the Fall Armyworm, a type of moth larvae. If you develop an allergy to such an insect protein, it may be very difficult to avoid exposure. Avoiding exposure to egg for a patient with egg allergies is difficult enough. How would one avoid exposure to a moth/larvae protein?

Flucelvax contains dog kidney cell proteins. If you develop an allergy to dog kidney cell protein, your immune system might start attacking your own similar kidney cells. An autoimmune kidney disorder will result.
Also the dog kidney cells used to make the vaccine are highly tumorigenic. The cells are supposed to be all killed. But even the tumorigenic DNA residue in the vaccine is considered dangerous and is therefore limited by the FDA to 10 nanogram. Is that low enough?
www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/05/slides/5-4188S1-1draft.PPT

Trivalent vaccines contain three viral strains and quadrivalent contain four viral strains.

If you want to perform some probability calculations, flu vaccines work 60% of the time per the CDC.
http://www.cdc.gov/f...sqa-2013-14.htm

And about 3000-40,000 people are killed by the flu each year.

In the old days before vaccines, you had no choice but to suffer the flu. Modern medicine gives you a choice, a choice between the devil and the deep sea ... for a fee.

EC: Sorry Apv the table you pasted at the top was too big for a post so we had to remove it.

Flu Shots
Posted by Deborah C (Ga) on 10/16/2016

Do you recommend taking a Flu Shot? My niece is pregnant and was informed by her pediatrician that all family members should have a Flu Shot if they wanted to have contact with the baby...I disagree with taking a Flu Shot. Tell me your opinion about this matter.


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Lucena (Leyte, Philippines) on 03/05/2014

My grandaughter was born in Uk (09-01=2014) Vaccination is compulsory. With BCG so far no side-effect seen yet, but who knows its lurking somewhere?? She is due for another next week, DPT. Any anti-dote? Thank you very much for any input on this.

Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee, Usa) on 03/05/2014

Dear Lucena,

As soon as leaving the doctor's office (in the car, before going home.) I would clean the vaccine site with an alcohol wipe and cover it with a charcoal poultice (at least 2-3 inches in diameter.). I would change this poultice every 3 hours or so and do this for at least 24 hours. You can also make garlic salve and apply it to the feet every 2 waking hours for a couple of days. (Then maybe daily for a week! ) to try and kill off any possible infection.)

Rachel Weaver in her book, Be your Child's Pediatrician has a lot of other ideas but they are not really for babies.

Here is how to make a charcoal poultice:

https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/charcoal2.html#pou;tice

Here is how to make garlic salve:

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/children_and_infants4.html#COUGHS

You may need to use a bit less garlic for a baby.

Hope that will be helpful for your grandbaby!

~Mama to Many~


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Lucena (Leyte, Philippines) on 03/05/2014

Dear Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa, Your input is really appreciated. I will forward this to my daughter. Hoping for the best.


Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Lucy (Usa) on 12/19/2014

Hello,

I do NOT believe that vaccinations are compulsory in the UK. I lived in the UK and all three of my children were not vaccinated at all. Please have your daughter investigate this because if she would told the are compulsory then she was lied to.


Guilliain Barre
Posted by Pclouds (Annapolis,md) on 11/03/2013 1 posts

A good friend was just diagnosed w Guillain Barre after getting a flu shot a week ago. I wondered if any of you have insight on treatments or cures that would lessen her issues. She has no feeling in her hands and falls a lot. Currently she is in intensive care at hospital. Doctors have dismissed flu shot as correlation to this sudden onset. Any suggestions are most welcome. Many thanks for all the great info and wisdom you provide here.

Pam

Guilliain Barre
Posted by Prioris (Fl, Usa) on 11/03/2013

In regards to "Doctors have dismissed flu shot as correlation to this sudden onset"

Vaccines are behind the cause of Guillian Barre and other chronic diseases.

There are disinformation studies which say that there is no link but they base that on saying that there were no vaccines given in six week prior and then claim they are safe. Some people are effected immediately while others aren't effected for many years or decades afterwards.

Your friend being treated by such doctors is the first danger. They will pump her with synthetic medicines that may put her health at further risk.

I don't have any treatment suggestions outside of finding a naturopath who has dealt with it before.


HPV Vaccination Side Effects
Posted by Gracie (East Providence, RI ) on 09/01/2013

I was hoping you could either help me or direct me to obtain some information. My daughter received the hpv virus vaccine about 3 years ago (she was 15) recommended by her physician. Is there any way possible to reverse the vaccine? Either by essential oils or supplements/juicing anything? After researching I found it does not prevent and actually has life long effects. I have tried to research through google etc and I cannot find anything.

Thank you in advance

Adult Immunizations
Posted by Sara (Vancouver, Canada) on 08/06/2013

Hey there, I have a question. I am traveling to India for the first time I am 29 and have never had any kind of shot or immunization, nor do I believe in them per say. I am a very healthy person. I am wondering though if its important to get shots for the trip, and what ones? I really don't want to mess around with getting really sick. Please let me know your thoughts. Thank you, Sara

Adult Immunizations
Posted by Caleb (Missouri, US) on 03/03/2015

Hello, while I completely understand the concerns you have about getting certain vaccines, as well as your wish to seek out natural remedies and immune boosters, there are some things I think you should be aware of. When traveling to third world and developing countries such as India, a person should take the proper precautions to protect themselves from sickness and disease. According to the Center for Disease Control, the potential diseases a person could contract in India are: Hepatitis A and B, Typhoid, Malaria, cholera, and Japanese Encephalitis. In the case of Japanese Encephalitis, there are reported human cases in nearly all states, with high rates in southern India where there is year round contamination season in some places. Japanese encephalitis otherwise known as JE virus is a single-stranded RNA virus that belongs to the genus Flavivirus and is closely related to West Nile and Saint Louis encephalitis viruses. JE virus is transmitted to humans through the bite of an infected mosquito. In the case of Typhoid, also known as enteric fever, there are 21.5 million persons who come in contact with Typhoid in developing countries each year. Typhoid is life threatening and is the top most communicable disease in India. The cause of this disease is a bacterium called Salmonella typhi. You can come in contact with it if you eat or drink water that has been contaminated. It can take as long as three weeks for a person to begin to see symptoms of the disease. Again I respect your viewpoint and feelings, but I'm just concerned for your wellbeing. If you have any further questions or are curious, you should check out these links:

-CDC: http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/traveler/none/india

--http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/yellowbook/2014/chapter-3-infectious-diseases-related-to-travel/japanese-encephalitis#3880

--traveldoctor: http://www.traveldoctor.com.au/files/editor_upload/File/fact-sheets/9115 TD Health Fact Sheet India.pdf

--http://www.thehealthsite.com/diseases-conditions/typhoid/001/


Adult Immunizations
Posted by Suzanne (California) on 08/18/2015

I travelled to India January 2014. I can tell you that worrying about shots isn't the real worry. The real worry is getting giardia over there. Research how people prevent it. I wish I had done that ahead of time because I have been sick with it for going on 2 years. It is nasty and has seriously impacted my life.


Adult Immunizations
Posted by Cindy (Wisc, Usa) on 04/24/2013

If a person was forced to have an immunization shot what can be done before/after to counteract, the side effects of it. Does it make a difference what the shot was for? I am most concerned about forced flu shots. Thank you.

Adult Immunizations
Posted by Bess (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) on 04/25/2013

Hi Cindy - You may want to check out Dr. Joseph Mercola (www.mercola.com). There are quite a few articles about vaccinations (just do a search - top right of the page on his Web site). Many people in the health field are forced to take vaccinations. While some states do have exemptions (religious belief, etc), it's getting harder to refuse. One article you may find relevant is from 2009: What to do if you are forced to take a flu shot. Near to the end, there is a section on Treatment for Toxic Vaccine Exposure. If you have time, click on the Comments (there are over 170! ).

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/19/The-Truth-about-the-Flu-Shot.aspx

Hope that helps! Cheers, Bess


Adult Immunizations
Posted by Cindy (Wisc, Usa) on 04/25/2013

Thank you TimH and Bess for your help with my question, I will look at the information that you have suggested. I thought I had seen some time ago on here information from Ted. Maybe I will have to search again and hope that Bill from San Fernando may also respond. Thanks everyone.


Flu Shots
Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa) on 12/04/2012

Hi Carly, I have to agree with you. Personally, I think it's scary. And yes, they do have mercury in them. It's weird how there are signs everywhere- grocery stores, pharmacies, etc. all loudly proclaiming "Now available"! I have never had one nor do I ever intend to. I would rather use the approach of creating a healthy immune system instead of putting in more toxins! Last night, a mom of one of my dancers said to me, "Flu season is here, I really need to get E*** a flu shot so she doesn't get sick. " I blurted out, "No! Don't do that! " And she looked at me like I was out of my mind. Her response is that she gets her one every year. She's only 14! Yikes. I suggested she work to strengthen her immune system with herbs, vitamin C, eating well, etc. She quickly changed the subject.

I do my best to try to help others find their health through diet, herbs, vitamins and educate them but when everyone is being bombarded and brainwashed, it's disheartening. Anyway, let's do our best to help educate about self-care in maintaining our health. Best to you, Lisa


Flu Shots
Posted by Tyler (Oklahoma City, Ok) on 12/05/2012

The problem I have is they are requiring us in hospitals to receive the flu shot. If we don't receive the shot we cannot work.


Flu Shots
Posted by Planky (New York, United States) on 10/13/2013 8 posts
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I got the flu shot for seniors four days ago and have never had a reaction to shots but this time I did. You cannot see where I go the shot but my left arm hurts and it is painful to lift my arm. I cannot sleep because I can't get comfortable. Never again!


Flu Shots
Posted by Susu (Sacramento Ca) on 01/13/2014

Here it is a year after the hyper flu media frenzy and it's happening again, only worse. They talk about it like it's news but it's really advertising. The headlines, "People are Dying" really laying it on thick. Even tho Dr Oz is recommending flu shots and he had one himself on his show, his own wife and children do not get a flu shot. I can only imagine the problems that has caused him with the producers and advertisers, drug companies, etc. He is willing to get injected on TV to make up for it and he is willing to tell everyone else to get their kids and themselves injected...but he is not willing to inject his wife or children.


Flu Shots
Posted by Prioris (Fl) on 01/13/2014

I'll bet member of Congress and their families don't get vaccinated either. They always push the fear angle by saying so many people are dying of this or that. Of course, they neglect to mention that all these deaths fall within the norm.

Dr. Oz tows the line. He'll advocate chemotherapy and vaccines because he knows he won't have a show if he doesn't. I wonder how much of the listening audience actually sees a red flag in Dr Oz family not wanting the shot.



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