Vaccination Discussion Board

HPV Vaccination Side Effects

Posted by Gracie (East Providence, RI ) on 09/01/2013

I was hoping you could either help me or direct me to obtain some information. My daughter received the hpv virus vaccine about 3 years ago (she was 15) recommended by her physician. Is there any way possible to reverse the vaccine? Either by essential oils or supplements/juicing anything? After researching I found it does not prevent and actually has life long effects. I have tried to research through google etc and I cannot find anything.

Thank you in advance

Replied by Jessie
(Riverdale, Md)


I am not aware of anything to reverse the vaccine. But, whatever you can do to boost her health will be of help to her. Juicing is great for boosting anyone's health. Check on this site for information on castor oil packs to help detoxify her liver. One of my children had a bad vaccine reaction when he was 4 months old. It was very scary at the time. So, he and our other children are unvaccinated since then. Even though my son had a bad reaction, he is now and adult and has great health. Your daugther is blessed to have a mama who cares so much. Jessie

Kidney Transplants and the Flu Vaccine

Posted by Wendy (Columbus, OH) on 03/11/2019

Has anyone, with a kidney transplant, received the flu vaccine? My docs, at each and every visit, continue to ask if I've gotten it, and I say no (because I won't get it) and try not to go into details as to why I won't get it since the doc's eyes start to glaze over! I have never, ever had the flu in my 64 years of life (big knock on wood, of course), and rarely get sick, even with a cold or cough. I maintain a healthy lifestyle, including almost being "anal" when it comes to washing my hands, and cleansing my surrounding areas (desk at work, my PC keyboard & phone with alcohol wipes, etc.).

I'm really concerned about the possibility (listen to the March 5, 2019 senate hearing at of the flu vaccine being MANDATORY for fear I would unavoidably get the flu from the vaccine itself. Since I'm on immuno-suppressant drugs for the rest of my life, I fear that the vaccine would cause irreparable damage to my own system. Any comments, insights, FACTS, would be appreciated!

Replied by Charity
(Faithville, US)

I would like to pull Teds' information for heavy metal poisoning into this current site so here is the link I would also encourage you to go on youtube and visit Eric Berg teachings on cortisol and how to turn it off and restoration of gut health

Menactra Vaccine

Posted by Terri (Fort Myers, Fl) on 08/06/2009


EC: From the following interesting blog:

"Menactra protects against serotypes A, C, Y and W-135. However, the vaccine does not contain serotype B, which causes about one-third of all cases of meningococcal disease in the US. and more than 50 percent of cases in young infants. Therefore, in terms of preventing meningococcal disease in America, Menactra is ineffective 30 to 50 percent of the time, depending upon age."

Make sure to read about the side effects on this blog!

Replied by Lisa
(St. Petersburg, Florida)

Based on that blog, if the Menactra vaccine is ineffective 30-50% of the time, then it is effective 50-70% of the time. That sounds like pretty good odds to me, and would you really want to say to yourself, 'I wish I had given her that vaccine, ' when your child is in the hospital like I was, with that strain of meningitis that most likely is covered by the vaccine?

Shingles Vaccine Reactions

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Posted by Mari (Los Angeles, CA) on 11/23/2021
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Has anyone had a reaction to a shingles vaccine and do you know of any MD's or natural health practitioners who know how to treat a reaction to it? At the suggestion of her physician, a friend of mine had a Zostavax shot back in 2015 and within a week her head and neck started itching from these pimples that started erupting. This reaction has NOT gone away and just keeps getting worse. It's like she has had shingles for six years! Because of the number of adverse reactions to Zostavax, it was taken off the market in 2018. Knowing what she knows now, my friend has said she wished she had said "no" to the shot because if she had come down with shingles she would have been over it in a couple of months. She has tried a lot of natural and pharmaceutical treatments, but nothing really helps.

T-Dap Vaccination

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Posted by Jimbo (Lancaster, Nh) on 11/27/2011
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Almost a year ago I was injected with the Tdap vaccine, since then I have not been the same, I have tried H2o2 and Chlorella with limited success but my symptoms, (tight leg muscles/weak arms/confusion) come back again.

I was also wondering if anyone else has had any similar reaction to the Tdap vaccine? If anyone has anything worth sharing to help get this out my system I would really appricate it, with a young family to provide for life is not easy at the moment.

I am also concerned whatever they stuck in me could have permently damaged something?

Thanks Jimbo

Replied by Holly
(Georgia, US)

I know your comment is really old but I hope you see my response.

I had a tetanus shot years ago and developed horrible cystic acne all over my face. It wasn't until I started taking full flush niacin (for another health issue) that my face cleared up. Niacin detoxes the liver. The flush version is the kind you want for detox. Make sure you prepare yourself for the flush if you haven't had one. The first time can be a little weird. I mistakenly took time released naicin once and it spiked my liver enzymes whereas pure niacin has never done that.

You will hear people say niacin can hurt your liver but I believe the flush free and time release are the harmful ones.

Anyway, my fave is fully clear now. The tdap isn't even necessary because tetanus is in animal feces. So, unless you step on something sharp that pierces your skin and then step in horse feces, it's HIGHLY unlikely you'll get tetanus. Also, tetanus is killed instantly by oxygen so if you ever do get poked with something and it breaks the skin, hydrogen peroxide would kill any potential tetanus.

Travel Vaccinations

Posted by Nat (Raleigh, North Carolina) on 12/30/2011

Hello, I will be traveling to Southern India (Kerala) in January and will stay there for 3 months. I'll possibly visit some neighboring countries as well.. There are a couple of vaccines recommended, those are: Hepatitis A and B (I already had Hep. A), Typhoid, Polio, Rabies, Japanese encephalitis and lastly, some medication for Malaria. I would love to avoid all of these vaccines because I am not sure that they are safe but I do not know if going without the vaccinations is a good decision.

Are these vaccines and medications dangerous?

I believe that Southern India is not as densely populated as is the Northern region and I would only be visiting the Northern area for short periods. Would I be less at "risk?"

I'd rather strengthen my immune system directly by taking probiotics and/or vitamins.. Any known remedies, products or ideas? What about Immunocal? I heard that one's own urine acts like a vaccine..

Suggestions, recommendations, and experiences will be greatly appreciated.


Replied by Diane
(Berkeley, Ca)

I've traveled in India, including Kerala, and I've only ever taken Hep A and Typhoid. I wouldn't miss those.

Twinrix Reactions

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Posted by Sara (The Beach, Canada) on 10/22/2012
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I got the twinrix shot 18 months ago and it put my immune system into hyper drive which it is supposed to do, but for a small percentage of people it induces a prescription induced eczema. My question is, is there any way to reverse or lesson the of effects to the shot. If not, that tropical trip was not worth this agony. Sara

Twinrix Reactions
Posted by Sara (The Beach, Canada) on 01/03/2012
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Has anyone else had Eczema as a side effect to the Twinrix shots. I have had a terrible breakout for months now and that is the only thing I did different last year for a trip. It took a couple of months to manifest and I did a candida cleanse as well. I think the combo of the two things were a recipe for this reaction, I have done a candida cleanse before without this reaction. Anyone have this experience and can you tell me how long it will last?

Replied by Sara
(The Beach, Canada)

Any ideas at all would be good.

Vaccinations and Children

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Posted by Valerie (Utah) on 06/29/2015

Now that California is requiring immunizations to get into school, I'm wondering if there is a way to pull the immunization toxicity from the body to minimize the damaging effects.

Replied by Timh
2072 posts

V: So glad you asked this question as it is of utmost importance. So many people (professional health care providers included) that constantly spout out the "dangers of vaccines" yet never provide any prevention (something they preach) strategies.

So, here's my take. Mercury alone is very toxic, so supplementing Selenium will go a long way in preventing problems. To be exact, there are a number of vitamins & minerals that aid in detox & metabolism so supplementing a high quality health food store brand children's vit/min will go a long way (plus the extra Selenium). But there are several more toxic ingredience that require removal. Two easy detox methods are Detox Foot Pads and Oil Pulling.

If none of the above methods prevent the occasion of autism-like symptoms, an MMS minimal daily dose will clean up all toxic residues. You can read more at Genesis 2 Church of Health and Healing.

Replied by Mama To Many

Dear Valerie,

Doing things to boost the immune system before vaccines, should help your child to deal better with the vaccine. Things like Vitamin C, Vitamin D, healthy food and less sugar.

Astragalus Root is a gentle but effective herb and used as food in some cultures. Taking this daily will help the body to fight infections.

You can buy or make Elderberry Syrup. It is great for the immune system and easy to get children to take. Taking it a few days before, the day of, and several days after a vaccine should be helpful.

Children get lots of vaccines at once. This is sometimes part of the problem - the immune system gets overwhelmed. If possible, space vaccines out. This may mean more trips to the doctor's office, but will be less of a stress to the child's immune system. If your child needs vaccines to go to school, you may be able to work out a schedule for vaccinations that would delay the beginning of the vaccines until the child is a little older. Getting vaccines spaced out when a child is between 2-4 years old instead of having a whole bunch the first year of life, will be less of a stress on the system.

~Mama to Many~

Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Lucena (Leyte, Philippines) on 03/05/2014

My grandaughter was born in Uk (09-01=2014) Vaccination is compulsory. With BCG so far no side-effect seen yet, but who knows its lurking somewhere?? She is due for another next week, DPT. Any anti-dote? Thank you very much for any input on this.

Replied by Mama To Many
(Tennessee, Usa)

Dear Lucena,

As soon as leaving the doctor's office (in the car, before going home.) I would clean the vaccine site with an alcohol wipe and cover it with a charcoal poultice (at least 2-3 inches in diameter.). I would change this poultice every 3 hours or so and do this for at least 24 hours. You can also make garlic salve and apply it to the feet every 2 waking hours for a couple of days. (Then maybe daily for a week! ) to try and kill off any possible infection.)

Rachel Weaver in her book, Be your Child's Pediatrician has a lot of other ideas but they are not really for babies.

Here is how to make a charcoal poultice:;tice

Here is how to make garlic salve:

You may need to use a bit less garlic for a baby.

Hope that will be helpful for your grandbaby!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Prioris
(Fl, Usa)

Vaccines are part of a global depopulation agenda. They will harm your childs health for many years to come and expose them to autism, chronic diseases and cancer. You need to do what is necessary to protect the child. F--- the countries vaccination laws. The people making such laws should be put on trial for crimes against humanity and treason.


"1918-1919 Smallpox epidemic resulted in 60,855 deaths. (2) with over 95% of the population vaccinated, the worst epidemic in the Philippine's history occurred resulting in a case mortality of 65%. The highest percentage occurred in the capital Manila, the most thoroughly vaccinated place. The lowest percentage occurred in Mindanao, the least vaccinated place owing to religious prejudices. (2)"

I would find someone who gives the vaccines and ask them if they can just give you certification without a vaccine shot. You could pay them a little money as an incentive if necessary. I would do whatever I had to in order to protect my child from vaccinations.

Replied by Lucena
(Leyte, Philippines)

Prioris from Fl, Usa, Thank you very much. I wish I could take my granddaughter and bring her to the Philippines. All my four daughters are without vaccines.

Replied by Lucena
(Leyte, Philippines)

Dear Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa, Your input is really appreciated. I will forward this to my daughter. Hoping for the best.

Replied by Lucy


I do NOT believe that vaccinations are compulsory in the UK. I lived in the UK and all three of my children were not vaccinated at all. Please have your daughter investigate this because if she would told the are compulsory then she was lied to.

Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Lisa (Freedom, Wi) on 02/29/2012

My daughter developed tics and twitches when she was in 1st grade. I tried curing these things with every holistic supplement I could find pertaining to them... When she got to about 5th grade the tics had become so bad that she told me she wanted to die :( I screamed out to GOD and told him she needed to be cured. Within days I came across a product called 369 iodine. I bought it and put her on it and it worked Immediately! She is now in 8th grade and the tics and twitches are completely gone!

DO NOT vaccinate your children, this was the cause of my daughters tics, she had only a few vaccines before GOD spoke to me and told me to stop. I now know why he told me to stop! This is truly a miracle and if people do not realize that vaccines are the greatest hoax ever to all of mankind they are putting themselves at risk of doing great harm or even death to their child/ children. God bless.

Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Erin (Fort Myers, Florida) on 02/17/2012

I am new to the state of Florida and having a very hard time finding a pediatrician who does not insist on vaccines. I'm not even sure of the state laws here, but I am expecting our 1st child in just 3 weeks & must have a pediatrician who is open/like minded on the subject. I am looking for any & all help & advice to ensure I have control over this subject.

Replied by Natalia
(North Royalton, Oh)
Replied by Timh
(Louisville, Ky, Usa)
2072 posts

Erin, I am responding as a concerned amateur individual that can only echo the caution you are displaying on the issue of vaccines. Independent studies and record analyst of personal testimonies and culturally indifferent people like Minnonites & Amish verify the connection of vaccines and illnesses like autism, in particular. I have a family member that had an "episode" during early development that no one could identify the cause. He screamed & yelled continually for hrs on end and was extremely frantic for several weeks, and afterward became autistic. From a spiritual perspective it was speculated that there was the possibility of demonic activity and intercessory prayers were applied w/ some noticeable results (it was a very disturbing experience, the suffering of this child).

Anyway, there are two ways to approach this issue (as is most all the issues of disease & health): 1. Avoidance 2. Intervention. In an effort to not totally exclude the benefits of vaccines, I would try to minimalise the number of V's to only the most important ones and never take multiple V's in one instance (space them out over several mo's or even yrs). If any sign of bad side effect occurs, it's intervention time. What the professionals are recommending I don't know, but some simple home remedies might or should help. A simple Epsom Salt / Baking Soda warm bath would go a long way to aid the detoxification and elimination of anything harmful like mercury. As a precautionary, I would supplement the mineral Selenium for several days prior to V's because Sel binds Mercury and eliminates it safely out of the body.

My two cents.

Replied by Cameron
(Brisbane, Qld, Australia)

Yes, you are right to be concerned. There are no good reasons to vaccinate and millions of reasons not to. Adjuvents, include aluminum and other toxic substances. Whistleblowers report nearly all vaccine lots are contaminated with foreign matter, including fecal and dead tissue from animal sources amongst other things. Rarely are the diseases vaccinated against fatal. Like incredibly rare, you are more likely to suffer from fatal or disabling lifetime side effects from the vaccine than the disease, read ADHD, Autism and Seizures to name 3 only.

Look for the equivalent of a Conscientious Objection Form then be prepared to be forced by Big Government and Big Pharma to get them anyway. If they force you to get them give your child a level teaspoon of Charcoal mixed in Juice or something straight away, this works for my daughters Chemo drugs and has been demonstrated with poison. Charcoal is what Hospitals here use for drug overdoses, it works almost instantly.

Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Sadie (Gwent, Uk) on 10/09/2011

My toddler is over two and a half years old, he was breastfed for two years - only stopping due to second difficult pregnancy. Before I was any the wiser I allowed him to have the first lot of his vaccination at two months of age, following these he was quite ill - severe diarrohea for months on end. Doctors refused to admit it was the vaccine but from that point I refused to continue with them.

He has struggled to tolerate dairy and developed asthma (his dad has history of chronic asthma on his side and I suffer with nut allergies). He is on non dairy alternatives where possible - non soy and there are improvement. However his asthma and cough which is quite bad are continuing and never resolving despite the recommended remedies am trying to implement as shown on this site. I am going to give him coconut oil in his food as he refuses to take it neat.

My question is, can anyone recommend a way to reverse the impact of that first set of vaccinations which I feel caused his asthma and cough.

Please help.

Replied by Bess
(Calgary, Alberta, Canada)

Hi Sadie - Dr. Mercola interviewed a pediatrician, Dr. Palevsky, about vaccinations for children. You may want to check out Dr. Palevsky's Web site. He has a number of articles, videos, etc about vaccinations (and other stuff) in the "Media Center" (top left hand of page), plus he has a Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page on how to treat common childhood ailments (ear infections, coughs and colds, fevers, etc. ) using natural (or as close to as possible) methods.

Here is his pdf on asthma in children:

Perhaps you could email him and ask him about the side effects of vaccinations and what you can do.

Best of luck! Bess

Replied by Heather
(Jerusalem, Israel)

Dear Sadie,

Yes you can reverse the vaccination reactions of your toddler. You will need 2 things: vitamin D (start with 3,000 units every day for 7 days and then reduce to 1,000units a day thereafter). Dr John Cannell has done wonders with vitamin D for children in all aspects: autism, ADHD, vaccination side effects. His assumption is that vitamin D corrects DNA in imparied cells in the body.

The second thing you need is to detox the child of the heavy metals that were in the vaccine. This is done most easily with clay baths on a regular basis. Either sodium bentonite clay or calcium bentonite green clay.

Have no doubt that with these two his symptoms will be alleviated greatly. May he receive the grace to grow up healthy and strong.

Replied by Sadie
(Gwent, Uk)

Thank you both for your advice. I will try the vit d.

Heather how to do the clay baths - amount of clay to use and how often to bath. when will I know its worked?

Replied by Sadie
(Gwent, Uk)

Sorry Heather- is that dosage in iu?

Replied by Heather
(Jerusalem, Israel)

Dear Sadie,

For the clay bath instructions you can checkout sources: 1) Carolyn Dean MD - she has very specific dosages for clay baths with sodium bentonite clay.

Have seen the most wonderful results with detox and more with calcium bentonite green clay. A friend of mine could get concepted but not hold the pregnancy because of heavy metals in her cervix and uterus (probably from tampons) and she drank the clay every day for three months and has now conceived and holding the pregnancy well. She was trying for three years. Also good results with other people for other applications. But you have a todler. He won't drink the clay. So give him clay baths. They will leach the heavy metals and impurities from the skin. Parents of autistic children do this and see results as soon as several months.

For vit. D read the website of: The Vitamin D Council

And yes - it is International Units.

regards - Heather

Replied by Debbie
(Melbourne, Australia)

You need to supplement with iodine, and also its companions (that act in cohesion with iodine) magnesium, vitamin D and also vitamin c (taken at an alternate time). Magnesium is best taken transdermally (magnesium chloride or epson salts (magnesium sulphide) in bath water will reach body quicker than tablet form. Also brazil nuts (selenium) are needed to be taken with iodine as well (they could be crushed) in food.

Iodine is a heavy metal detoxer but has many other elements as well.

Autistic children have also been helped by the above protocol. Google "austim iodine"

Research iodine - it protect the body against heavy metals but most of us are now hugely deficient and the deficiency is passed to children through the mothers.

Replied by Debbie
(Melbourne, Australia)

Heather, if your friend had a heavy metal problem she most certainly is iodine deficient.

She should supplement with iodine because low iodine in the mother will lower the baby's IQ. This has been well documented.

Replied by Andoy
(Boise, Id)

Try to Google Edgar Cayce-vaccinations. He's got good points on vaccination.

Replied by Sadie
(Gwent, Uk)

Many thanks for all your responses, I am reading the recommended links now.

Debbie - what sort of dosage should I be looking at. My husband is concerned that the detox may be too powerful - is this likely. I am trying to tell him that adding the supplements you recommended wont do harm but good - any advice as to how I can allay his fears. He's just worried given the age of our son.

Replied by Debbie
(Melbourne, Australia)

Sadie you could just start off slowly and monitor his reaction. I have been giving my son quite a lot to detox him and it hasn't had any ill effect. When I first gave him a lot of vitamin c it had a dramatic effect for the positive. Iodine and magnesium I think is key - read the below article I have linked to as well. If you don't detox him the toxic chemicals/heavy metals are left in his body to cause more damage.

Some people may have a reaction to taking iodine by bromide leaving the body and that can be allayed by eating bread or drinking sea salt in water followed by warm water until the person starts urinating.

For iodine it depends on the strength you have. If you have Lugols iodine it is very safe from what I have read. If you have 5% strength I would think if you start off at 1 drop and see how he is and use more as he tolerates it. I put it in milk.

For iodine you need to take the "companion nutrients" as well for the best effect. They are Magnesium, selenium (brazil nuts), Vitamin C.

The magnesium for my son (who is 4.5) I am giving him both epson salt baths which is magnesium sulphate and magnesium chloride baths. It enters the body quicker through the skin. I put about 1/2 to 1 kg in the bath each time.

Vitamin C should not be taken at the same time as iodine - leave it for an hour or so - powdered is best.. Again it is very safe just monitor his reaction. I usually give my son at least 1/4 tspn at a time.

The brazil nuts probably 1 per day would be enough.

Here is a great article on iodine.

Replied by Sadie
(Gwent, Uk)

Many thanks Debbie. I hope you don't mind the questions, its difficult to get advice here in UK as most people I know don't approve of non vaccination never mind help to try and reverse the damage. I am hoping to order the required items soon. Is it vic c - the sodium ascorbate that I need? I have lugols 3%. How often for the epsom baths - is twice a week too little? How soon for results to appear - it is his asthma, eczema and cough that I am most concerned about, I want to limit the damage before it gets worse.

Replied by Debbie
(Melbourne, Australia)

Hi Sadie

Yes sodium ascorbate is good. Epsom salts are made of Magnesium sulphate and apparently it doesn't last as long in the body as the magnesium chloride. You could start with twice a week and see how he goes or put him in a smaller bath so the salts are more concentrated. Epsom salts are quite cheap. For the eczema you may want to try probiotics (ones that need to be refrigerated). The epsom salts should also help with eczema.

The iodine should help his asthma and lung congestion and the eczema as well.

I found giving my son saturated fats helped him a lot (raw butter, chicken fat, coconut oil) and raw milk. He hasn't had any wheezing at night since I started him on those.

Replied by Jenny
(Sydney, Australia)

Hi Debbie, where do you get reasonably priced Epsom salts in Australia? I buy them but they tend to be quite expensive for small amounts and if you are bathing your son in 1/2 to 1kg each time you must go through them quickly. Thanks for your tips!

Replied by Debbie
(Melbourne, Australia)

Hi Jenny, I have bought them at the chemist, supermarkets, and healthfood shops. In the healthfood shops you can get a 1 kg bag for about $6 (may be a bit less). The healthfood shop starts with V. When you think a cup of coffee costs about $4.50 it is quite cheap.

A cheaper way to get magnesium into you is to swim in the sea. It is like having a magnesium bath! I plan to take my son a lot this summer. Even standing in the water for 20-30 minutes is good for your uptake.

Replied by Francisca
(Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France)

Hi Sadie, where do you buy Lugol's in the UK? We go to the UK quite often and I have tried to find it in a health food shop in Cardiff called Beanfreaks, but they didn't have it. Funny enough it owed it's name to a French doctor, Jean Lugol but no one seems to know it here in France!

Replied by Sadie
(Gwent, Uk)

Thank you so much Debbie for your help, you are an angel. Do you mind me asking how bad your sons asthma was?

Replied by Debbie
(Melbourne, Australia)

Hi Sadie, no worries. He was born at 26 weeks & came home on oxygen. He has a chronic lung disease which I was told he will slowly grow out of. His asthma wasn't too bad but he wheezed a lot. I used to put him in the bathroom with the shower running hot water if his wheezing got too bad. I did use the ventalin a few times during the night. He always had a wheeze but never really coughed a lot with it. He did get bronchiolytis and then croup (with stridor) so bad he stayed in the ICU o/n on oxygen. He was very prone to getting sick quite a lot.

One more thing with asthma that is very important.. vitamin D (the sun). A low level of vitamin D has been linked to asthma and low immune system. Kids are now going to school and kinder with hats and sunscreen and never get any sun during the day (and they are getting sicker).. Not to mention the sunscreens are full of toxins. We also drive with sun tints on our cars & wear sunglasses so don't get much sun either.

I give my son liquid chlorophyll, spirulina and chlorella all of which contain vitamin D as well as getting him outside in the sun as much as possible. I also give him liquid minerals.

Replied by Sadie
(Gwent, Uk)

Many thanks Debbie, my nephew was also born at 26 weeks. I hope your son is well and in good health. I am very grateful for all your kind help and advice.

Replied by Sadie
(Gwent, Uk)

Hi Francisca,

I buy online. Beanfreaks is great but they don't have everything sadly. Web retailer is great for many things, it's the only place I have found Lugols.

Replied by Francisca
(Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France)

Thanks Sadie, unfortunately more often than not companies earn a lot of money on the postage costs making prices prohibitive! Too bad shops often offer a lot less than one can buy online and usually you can't even order anything in the shop. It is great we can resort to the Internet for some things but it made the stock in the shops smaller, I think. It should have been the contrary so that they could compete with the Internet? I do buy all my books online because even with the postage costs they are cheaper than in the shops, often not so with supplements.

In the meanwhile I did some research on Amazon UK and they have Lugol's 3% with free shipping to the UK so I can have it sent to my sister-in-law's address. Thanks!

Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Woog (Kl, Malaysia) on 08/05/2009

I would like to comment on vaccinations. My first child got 3 jabs because the pediarician threaten me and I was not informed nor educated on the matter. I heard from a direct-selling company founder that she did not vax her later kids and they were healthy. But that's all the info I got.

After d 3rd jab, seeing my 1 month old cry pierced my heart. I sat down and search all that I can online about vaccinations. I was shocked. It took me a long time to read and I never finished reading. There was just too much info, too much damaged. I didn't want to be another statistic.

Parents. I urge all of u to read up. My 2nd child never got a single jab and she is much healthier than the elder one. Do some comparison. Vaccinated vs Unvaccinated Kids. My children never had to be admitted into a hospital nor have they ever need to visit a doctor. I breastfeed them fully. It's not eay nor it is always convenient. BUT it is worth it. Just a few years and u get helthy kids. Take responsibility on what you put in your child's mouth. Dun give them candies, colas, junk food and expect them to be healthy.

Fever, flu, coughs and childhood diseases are part and parcels of growing up. This site has a lot of great advises which I refer to aside from reading "How to Raise a Healthy Child In Spite of YOur Doctor" Always take responsibility for your own child. Research and ask till you find something that you are comfortable with.

Ppl, friends, relatives around me dun believe or support my decision but I have 2 healthy children to show. Never given them any medication. 4 and 1 plus children.

Keep up the good work EarthClinic. I am always recommending your website to my friends. I rather try natural remedies first. Never had to use drugs so it goes to show, natural remedies work.

Replied by Loraine
(Orlando, Fl)

This question is for Woong from malaysia: How do you get your kids in school without them being vaccinated. I have also heard many negative things about vaccines but am worried that my children would not be accepted in school if I dont get them vaccinated. Can you please advice.

Replied by Selena
(Chula, Ga)

I have a form that I typed up for myself and a few friends that do not have their children vaccinated (as well as myself used for college and nursing job.) I would be happy to forward it to anyone interested. They can not force you to have your children vaccinated. I even used it 10 years ago for my daughter in daycare. BY the way...the daycare RN called me one morning and said all of the children in my daughter's group had broken out with a strange looking form of chicken pox. My daughter is the only one who did not get it and she was the only one who had not received the chicken pox vaccine, however she did get chicken pox 1 year later after I purposely exposed her to a neighbor's child with it. (Just like my mother did me). Vaccines are dangerous. Do your research and don't get your information from your doctor. Your children are worth it.

Replied by T
(Baltimore, Md, USA)

From Dr. Mercola's site - Legally avoiding vaccinations:

Vaccination Liberation - looks to be a great resource with letter templates, links to state laws, etc.

Excellent letter from a lawyer parent to a school board:

With the swine flu being so hyped and school starting again soon, we are potentially facing some big issues. We may encounter pressure, if not outright assault, on our sovereign rights over our own bodies and the care of our children. Arm yourself with knowledge now to stay healthy and to keep Big Pharma and government out of your bodies, your childrens' bodies, and your wallet.

Replied by Woog
(Kl, Malaysia)
5 out of 5 stars

My kids are still young. I guess I will worry about school when time comes. I may opt to homeschool my kids. I can't publicly tell you my other option but u can email me if u really wanna know.

If you look up websites recommended in Earthclinic, you can find that in US, you have a lot of ways to handle the issue of vaccination and school enrolment. Pretty easy and convenient. You can also try to contact ppl from those websites.

Health is more important. Find a school that will accept your unvax kids. I rather haf the inconvenience of homeschooling them then to have to take care of them my whole life should they be damaged by vaccines. I haf seen damaged done but docs will never say it's from vax.

If they are no longer able to take care of themselves, how are they gonna learn in the first place. At anytime, I rather have a not-so-smart kids than have kids who are not even able to take care of their own basic needs like bathing, eating, etc.

Being in the US, you have great homeschooling materials. Here, it is not that widely accepted and materials are not all that cheap or available. SO you have an advantage.

Weigh your choices. Good Luck!

Replied by Kathleen
(Vancouver, Wa, USA)

IF, just in case...if there were mandatory vaccinations, especially for our children. What can a novice to natural remedies do to prevent harm from the vaccinations. I have read a few things online, but most would confuse someone who has never heard of MMS or a mixture of other supplements. What would be the most understandable method of protection. Thanks!

Replied by Woog
(Kl, Malaysia)

Kathleen, what I did for my elder one was I fed her flax seed oil, coconut oil, spirulina, loads of Vit. C, all the good stuff I can afford or get my hands on. This was when she was a baby but as long as your child is willing to take them, feed them especially coconut oil. If you refer to coconut oil and it's benefits in this website or any other website, you'll find that it covers a lot of things.

My younger child, I refuse to let her be given even Vitamin K at birth. Absolutely nothing and she is stronger than the sis. Except for Roseola, she dun get fever. FLus, yes. Just give her water, vit c.

I'd question the doctors till I get a confident answer from the doctor. Read the inserts for the vaccine. Is it 100% effective? If not then give u something that is 100% effective? Will there be side-effects? Docs will most likely say mild fever, rashes, etc BUT is the doctor willing to support your child for life should your child get bad reactions such as seizure, paralyse, etc? Most likely you'd get kicked out of the doc's office if u were to question like that but hey it's your child's health and life we are talking about here. If your child can't function like a normal person, do you know who will take care of the child? YOU!!!

Read about nutrition, understand food. We can't be perfect but you have got to be strong-willed to not let your child consume too much sugary food, junk food. It's not easy. I am surrounded by ppl who hands out candies to kids to calm them but I am firm with my NO. Unless I am not aware, Ihave never seen my child licked a lollipop before.

Meat, as far as I can avoid them for my child, I will. My understanding is that meat takes 3 times longer to digest and sitting inside too long will produce toxic stuff so maybe when they are older.

Refer to Dr. Mercola's site, read Dr.Mendelssoh's book,,,, n d sites they refer. Find your balance.

Replied by Tamara
(Boaz, Alabama)

Does anyone out there know if it is required to get your child immunized to go to school. They are telling us that if our children are not they cannot enter school. I do not want my child to be immunized.

Replied by Heidi
(Fargo, Nd)

In most states there is a form you can fill out to state that you do not immunize. Ask for the form, or check online to get the correct laws for your state. We homeschool, and yet, we still need to fill out a form with the school district stating we choose not to immunize.

Replied by Boris
(Mason City, Iowa)

Tamara from Boaz Alabama.

All you need to do is sign a paper that says, that for religious reason you don't want your children vaccinated. Ask the school about it they should have a form. We did this in Washington, Oregon, Iowa. so I think they can force you to take vaccinations, they can say that your children can't come to school if there is an epidemic I think, but you really don't want them at school in that circumstance anyway. Hope this helps.


Replied by Kathleen
(Full Time Travler, Usa)

Hi about vaccinations. In Michigan you had to sign off with the school. My step daughter does not vaccinate her kids and all three are in school. Check with your school district.

Replied by Rena
(Mineral Bluff, Georgia, Usa)

Hi Tamara, from Boaz, Alabama. You've been given good advice already about the religious exemptions. I just want to add that you can also get it at your local health department.

I'm so happy you made the decision you have. I wish my daughter had listened. My two grandsons are both affected from vaccines (although tptb will never admit it). My 6 yr old grandson has ADHD (a pre-curser to Autisim). My nearly 2 yr old grandson is about to undergo testing for Autisim. It breaks my heart to see any child damaged with vaccines.

Replied by Woog
(Kl, Malaysia)

I am back to update that my 3rd girl is also totally vaccine-free and she has yet to see a doctor.. She's already 19 months. She is a homebirth baby so absolutely no vaccine, no vit k, no eye goops... Lotus birth... she is jaundice-free..

I am expecting no. 4 now and God-willing, this will be a homebirth too and totally no vaccines either...

Replied by Danielle
(Jacksonville, Florida, Usa)

I am 28 years old and am pregnant with my first child. I was recently asked by my doctor if I wanted the TDAP vaccine. I haven't had a vaccine since I was a child and have always been against the Flu shots that are so widely pushed these days. This had me researching vaccines and I know that most pediatricians will want my child to start them. Honestly I don't know all of them and I know they have increased significantly since I was a child. I happened to come across Earth Clinic researching TDAP vaccine and I thought it would be helpful to ask advice from like-minded/open minded people.

By reading this discussion I see that a lot of you are against most or all vaccines. I am against most that they push on adults such as the flu, but haven't really had to think much about all the ones they are giving children these days. I know most pediatricians will look at you like your crazy for not wanting your child to receive any type of vaccine. I want to continue my research and was wondering if there are any websites that anyone recommends that list the vaccines given to children and what is actually in them? I also would like to find a pediatrician that would be open to the idea of not giving vaccines and open to homeopathic medicine if they exist. Any information on the subject would be greatly appreciated. I have already learned a lot from others whom have posted information on the subject, but anything new would be great.

Thanks, Danielle

Replied by Patti
(Owensboro, Ky)

First of all, the doctor works for you! You are the boss. You tell them what to do and you need to start behaving like a boss right now. Make sure you are comfortable before your child is born. Your infant will be protected at birth from your own immunities. Wait until the child is at least 2 yrs old if you must give them the vaccines. Go to The Farmacy on facebook, they have alot of information. Your child DOES NOT have to have them to attend school. You will most likely have to sign a form, that's all. They cannot ask you why! It is your choice. Please take steps to learn your rights now, before you have this child. Autism is rampant, and they (CDC) will never convince me that vaccinations don't have something to do with it. Please continue to educate yourself and family members. Good luck to you.

Replied by Leah

Yes, start reading now. I used to be sceptical and then I heard they used mercury, aluminum and formaldehyde. These are serious neurotoxins and yes they still use them for pregnant moms and babies (flu, tetanus and some others). Detailed discussion here:

Replied by Jacqui
(South Australia)

Please don't ever purposely expose children to chicken pox! That reasoning went out with the flat earth theory. Getting chicken pox is no absolute guarantee to not get the virus again but now you have caused your child probable SHINGLES in its future! There is nothing wrong with vaccines if given ONLY when child is well, and only ONE vaccine per month to prevent system overload.

Replied by Constance

Hi daughter is do to give birth in a few weeks and was given the prenatal whooping cough vaccine with more vaccines to follow after birth. I am concerned. I would love to connect with you and more so with my daughter....Do you happen to have a blog or other way to engage with you?

Concerned in Michigan......Constance

Vaccinations and Children
Posted by Emily (Goodyear, AZ) on 02/06/2009

Nosodes - Alternate Vaccines for Children: I have been search for two years for an alternative to giving my son tradition vaccines. He is two years old and I finally found the solution for my family. Nosodes. They are homeopathic remedies that are made from the specific products of a particular disease. This can be tissue containing the actual disease agents or tissue affected by those agents. Sometimes nosodes are made from vaccines containing the organisms. The nosodes are prepared in a diluted and potentized form just like all other homeopathic medicine. There is no potential for an animal to become infected with a given disease agent from a nosode because of the pharmaceutical process that occurs which dilutes and inactivates any viable organisms.

I found a local doctor to prepare the mix for me and I will be giving oral doses to my son 3X day. I have 3 bottles and they cover all of his vaccines including the flu without any of the harmful chemicals of traditional vaccines.

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