Vaccination Discussion Board

If a person was forced to have an immunization shot what can be done before/after to counteract, the side effects of it. Does it make a difference what the shot was for? I am most concerned about forced flu shots. Thank you.

Thank you TimH and Bess for your help with my question, I will look at the information that you have suggested. I thought I had seen some time ago on here information from Ted. Maybe I will have to search again and hope that Bill from San Fernando may also respond. Thanks everyone.

Hi Carly, I have to agree with you. Personally, I think it's scary. And yes, they do have mercury in them. It's weird how there are signs everywhere- grocery stores, pharmacies, etc. all loudly proclaiming "Now available"! I have never had one nor do I ever intend to. I would rather use the approach of creating a healthy immune system instead of putting in more toxins! Last night, a mom of one of my dancers said to me, "Flu season is here, I really need to get E*** a flu shot so she doesn't get sick. " I blurted out, "No! Don't do that! " And she looked at me like I was out of my mind. Her response is that she gets her one every year. She's only 14! Yikes. I suggested she work to strengthen her immune system with herbs, vitamin C, eating well, etc. She quickly changed the subject.

I do my best to try to help others find their health through diet, herbs, vitamins and educate them but when everyone is being bombarded and brainwashed, it's disheartening. Anyway, let's do our best to help educate about self-care in maintaining our health. Best to you, Lisa

The problem I have is they are requiring us in hospitals to receive the flu shot. If we don't receive the shot we cannot work.

I got the flu shot for seniors four days ago and have never had a reaction to shots but this time I did. You cannot see where I go the shot but my left arm hurts and it is painful to lift my arm. I cannot sleep because I can't get comfortable. Never again!

Here it is a year after the hyper flu media frenzy and it's happening again, only worse. They talk about it like it's news but it's really advertising. The headlines, "People are Dying" really laying it on thick. Even tho Dr Oz is recommending flu shots and he had one himself on his show, his own wife and children do not get a flu shot. I can only imagine the problems that has caused him with the producers and advertisers, drug companies, etc. He is willing to get injected on TV to make up for it and he is willing to tell everyone else to get their kids and themselves injected...but he is not willing to inject his wife or children.

I'll bet member of Congress and their families don't get vaccinated either. They always push the fear angle by saying so many people are dying of this or that. Of course, they neglect to mention that all these deaths fall within the norm.

Dr. Oz tows the line. He'll advocate chemotherapy and vaccines because he knows he won't have a show if he doesn't. I wonder how much of the listening audience actually sees a red flag in Dr Oz family not wanting the shot.

I got the twinrix shot 18 months ago and it put my immune system into hyper drive which it is supposed to do, but for a small percentage of people it induces a prescription induced eczema. My question is, is there any way to reverse or lesson the of effects to the shot. If not, that tropical trip was not worth this agony. Sara

I am new to the state of Florida and having a very hard time finding a pediatrician who does not insist on vaccines. I'm not even sure of the state laws here, but I am expecting our 1st child in just 3 weeks & must have a pediatrician who is open/like minded on the subject. I am looking for any & all help & advice to ensure I have control over this subject.

Has anyone else had Eczema as a side effect to the Twinrix shots. I have had a terrible breakout for months now and that is the only thing I did different last year for a trip. It took a couple of months to manifest and I did a candida cleanse as well. I think the combo of the two things were a recipe for this reaction, I have done a candida cleanse before without this reaction. Anyone have this experience and can you tell me how long it will last?

Any ideas at all would be good.

Hello, I will be traveling to Southern India (Kerala) in January and will stay there for 3 months. I'll possibly visit some neighboring countries as well.. There are a couple of vaccines recommended, those are: Hepatitis A and B (I already had Hep. A), Typhoid, Polio, Rabies, Japanese encephalitis and lastly, some medication for Malaria. I would love to avoid all of these vaccines because I am not sure that they are safe but I do not know if going without the vaccinations is a good decision.

Are these vaccines and medications dangerous?

I believe that Southern India is not as densely populated as is the Northern region and I would only be visiting the Northern area for short periods. Would I be less at "risk?"

I'd rather strengthen my immune system directly by taking probiotics and/or vitamins.. Any known remedies, products or ideas? What about Immunocal? I heard that one's own urine acts like a vaccine..

Suggestions, recommendations, and experiences will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

My friend's daughter-in-law had a flu-shot and ensuing fever for 2 months now. Tuesday, 27th Dec 2011, she fainted and had 2 seizures.

Hospital tested for Lupus, Meningitis and TB... she is not recognizing anyone and the doctors don't know the next step. When she fainted, she fell on her baby and her 4 yr old daughter called 911.

Any suggestions would be helpful...

Cvp, just a shot in the dark, but from what little I know, some Ionic Trace Minerals, Fulvic /Humic Acid would have to have some detox and enzyme boosting effect (mix suggested number of drops in some fruit juice). If she is unable to drink, I would ask for an IV infusion of Alpha Lipoic Acid for immediate detox and immune help.

If it were my loved one, I would also place a Detox Foot Patch on the bottom of each foot for 24 hrs for safe detox, (keep the covers over the feet and the hospital staff will never know). If anything, 1grm Vit-C per hr (mix w/ juice); Alacer has the popular "Emergen-C" effervescent powdered drink w/ B vits and electrolytes by mouth, or ask for IV C if necessary. For easy and immediate relief, Hyland's "Cell Salts" would help detox and nourish the blood; a few dots under the tongue as recommended.

Just my amateur two cents, and hope she makes a full recovery.

Her body is obviously in a major toxic state. I would suggest that she needs to do a major detox. Lots of green juices to which are added chlorella and spirulina. Mega Vitamin C is also good to detox with.

Epsom salts in the bath is also good for a detox.

Does she drink diet coke or other drinks or foods with aspartame? It also sounds like an aspartame toxicity problem.

Someone else may have further suggestions.

She might need to do some heavy metal detoxing. She may have some mercury poisoning. What are her other symptoms? She also may be experiencing something called Guillain-Barre Syndrome which occurs in 1 in a million cases of people who get the flu vaccination. The disease usually occurs in predisposed people but can be activated by the flu shot.

Signs and symptoms of Guillain-Barre syndrome may include:

• Prickling, "pins and needles" sensations in your fingers, toes or both
  
• Weakness or tingling sensations in your legs that spread to your upper body
  
• Unsteady walking or inability to walk
  
• Difficulty with eye movement, facial movement, speaking, chewing or swallowing
  
• Severe pain in your lower back
  
• Difficulty with bladder control or intestinal functions
  
• Rapid heart rate
  
• Low or high blood pressure
  
• Difficulty breathing
  

There is some helpful information about the flu shot here. Maybe just knowing what is actually in the shot will help to narrow it down.

http://www.mpwhi.com/the_truth_about_the_flu_shot.pdf

I hope it isn't too late for your friends daughter in-law. If it has caused an autoimmune reaction she needs to boost her immune system with Vit C, D3, marshmallow root, astragulus, and euchinacea.

To detox heavy metals she should try chlorella and spirolina. Also some cilantro might help. I pray she gets well again. I get so angry that our own governments push this harmful vaccine so much. It is not good for anyone to get it. It will not help the aging and sick if we get the vaccine since it is only effective in 1% of the people who get it. If you want to help keep the elderly and sick influenza free the best thing to do is take your vit c, D3 and vit E. Stay away from the flu vaccine.

Dear Cvp from Toronto, I do not have any helpful suggestions. But you may be interested to know that there are others reporting serious side effects from these flu vacines and that there is a recently created discussion of all this going on in the: Life Extension Forum. I will provide a link to one of those discussions. Hopefully some helpful advice can come from that discussion and here is that link: http://ask.lef.org/4517/Flu-Vaccine-Side-Effects

You may wish to join that forum and join that discussion. I will suggest describing the symptoms, condition in hopes of finding some helpful suggestions....Oscar

Thanks for the information. I will check this out there may be some helpful information. Happy New Year.

Almost a year ago I was injected with the Tdap vaccine, since then I have not been the same, I have tried H2o2 and Chlorella with limited success but my symptoms, (tight leg muscles/weak arms/confusion) come back again.

I was also wondering if anyone else has had any similar reaction to the Tdap vaccine? If anyone has anything worth sharing to help get this out my system I would really appricate it, with a young family to provide for life is not easy at the moment.

I am also concerned whatever they stuck in me could have permently damaged something?

Thanks Jimbo

Hi Sadie - Dr. Mercola interviewed a pediatrician, Dr. Palevsky, about vaccinations for children. You may want to check out Dr. Palevsky's Web site. He has a number of articles, videos, etc about vaccinations (and other stuff) in the "Media Center" (top left hand of page), plus he has a Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page on how to treat common childhood ailments (ear infections, coughs and colds, fevers, etc. ) using natural (or as close to as possible) methods.

Here is his pdf on asthma in children:

http://www.drpalevsky.com/mediacenter/Alternatives_to_Asthma.pdf

Perhaps you could email him and ask him about the side effects of vaccinations and what you can do.

Best of luck! Bess

Thank you both for your advice. I will try the vit d.

Heather how to do the clay baths - amount of clay to use and how often to bath. when will I know its worked?

Sorry Heather- is that dosage in iu?

Heather, if your friend had a heavy metal problem she most certainly is iodine deficient.

She should supplement with iodine because low iodine in the mother will lower the baby's IQ. This has been well documented.

Many thanks for all your responses, I am reading the recommended links now.

Debbie - what sort of dosage should I be looking at. My husband is concerned that the detox may be too powerful - is this likely. I am trying to tell him that adding the supplements you recommended wont do harm but good - any advice as to how I can allay his fears. He's just worried given the age of our son.

Sadie you could just start off slowly and monitor his reaction. I have been giving my son quite a lot to detox him and it hasn't had any ill effect. When I first gave him a lot of vitamin c it had a dramatic effect for the positive. Iodine and magnesium I think is key - read the below article I have linked to as well. If you don't detox him the toxic chemicals/heavy metals are left in his body to cause more damage.

Some people may have a reaction to taking iodine by bromide leaving the body and that can be allayed by eating bread or drinking sea salt in water followed by warm water until the person starts urinating.

For iodine it depends on the strength you have. If you have Lugols iodine it is very safe from what I have read. If you have 5% strength I would think if you start off at 1 drop and see how he is and use more as he tolerates it. I put it in milk.

For iodine you need to take the "companion nutrients" as well for the best effect. They are Magnesium, selenium (brazil nuts), Vitamin C.

The magnesium for my son (who is 4.5) I am giving him both epson salt baths which is magnesium sulphate and magnesium chloride baths. It enters the body quicker through the skin. I put about 1/2 to 1 kg in the bath each time.

Vitamin C should not be taken at the same time as iodine - leave it for an hour or so - powdered is best.. Again it is very safe just monitor his reaction. I usually give my son at least 1/4 tspn at a time.

The brazil nuts probably 1 per day would be enough.

Here is a great article on iodine.

http://www.heal-yourself.com.au/Iodine.html

Many thanks Debbie. I hope you don't mind the questions, its difficult to get advice here in UK as most people I know don't approve of non vaccination never mind help to try and reverse the damage. I am hoping to order the required items soon. Is it vic c - the sodium ascorbate that I need? I have lugols 3%. How often for the epsom baths - is twice a week too little? How soon for results to appear - it is his asthma, eczema and cough that I am most concerned about, I want to limit the damage before it gets worse.

Hi Sadie

Yes sodium ascorbate is good. Epsom salts are made of Magnesium sulphate and apparently it doesn't last as long in the body as the magnesium chloride. You could start with twice a week and see how he goes or put him in a smaller bath so the salts are more concentrated. Epsom salts are quite cheap. For the eczema you may want to try probiotics (ones that need to be refrigerated). The epsom salts should also help with eczema.

The iodine should help his asthma and lung congestion and the eczema as well.

I found giving my son saturated fats helped him a lot (raw butter, chicken fat, coconut oil) and raw milk. He hasn't had any wheezing at night since I started him on those.

Hi Jenny, I have bought them at the chemist, supermarkets, and healthfood shops. In the healthfood shops you can get a 1 kg bag for about $6 (may be a bit less). The healthfood shop starts with V. When you think a cup of coffee costs about $4.50 it is quite cheap.

A cheaper way to get magnesium into you is to swim in the sea. It is like having a magnesium bath! I plan to take my son a lot this summer. Even standing in the water for 20-30 minutes is good for your uptake.

Hi Sadie, where do you buy Lugol's in the UK? We go to the UK quite often and I have tried to find it in a health food shop in Cardiff called Beanfreaks, but they didn't have it. Funny enough it owed it's name to a French doctor, Jean Lugol but no one seems to know it here in France!

Thank you so much Debbie for your help, you are an angel. Do you mind me asking how bad your sons asthma was?

Many thanks Debbie, my nephew was also born at 26 weeks. I hope your son is well and in good health. I am very grateful for all your kind help and advice.

Hi Francisca,

I buy online. Beanfreaks is great but they don't have everything sadly. Web retailer is great for many things, it's the only place I have found Lugols.

Thanks Sadie, unfortunately more often than not companies earn a lot of money on the postage costs making prices prohibitive! Too bad shops often offer a lot less than one can buy online and usually you can't even order anything in the shop. It is great we can resort to the Internet for some things but it made the stock in the shops smaller, I think. It should have been the contrary so that they could compete with the Internet? I do buy all my books online because even with the postage costs they are cheaper than in the shops, often not so with supplements.

In the meanwhile I did some research on Amazon UK and they have Lugol's 3% with free shipping to the UK so I can have it sent to my sister-in-law's address. Thanks!

Hi,

I'm wondering if anyone has thought that their symptoms or illness has been caused by being immunized as an adult? I was given the measles/mumps vaccine after the birth of my son 18 years ago. My blood test at the time said that it was inconclusive as to my immunity. So, my doctor ordered I have a booster. I was very healthy before then. About three years later, I developed extreme anxiety, panic attacks and depression. I then developed thyroid disease, specifically Hashimoto's thyroiditis. Fibromyalgia too. I have problems with allergies, digestion, etc. I have often wondered if I truly didn't need the booster. My doctor didn't ask to retest. He just gave me the shot. As far as my thyroid problems are concern, I had something else happen to me that makes me wonder. I was going to a chiropractor for back pain (also after the birth of my son) and while he was adjusting my neck, he pushed down to hard and crushed my throat against the table. I have asked many other chiropractors and doctors if this could have damaged my thyroid, to which the answer was always no. But, I know that it hurt a lot at the time and was sore for a long time after. I guess I would just like to understand why my health has been compromised without any explanation. Thanks.

I was wondering if you found out any more about the vaccination and your illness? I have just begun researching after watching documentaries. I just realized I might have had severe adverse affects from the TDAP. I had no serious medical issues, weight problems etc. In 3/2009 they gave me the tdap as a booster. In 7/2010 I was diagnosed with Hashimotos Thyroiditis out of the blue, never having any issues or symptoms in the past. Since then the medical issues have snowballed and I am currently only 32 years of age. I am doing everything I can find to help my health and heal my body. I am very scared this vaccine may have done this. How can you explain 29 years of good health, no thyroid symptoms or issues then poof I have a debilitating auto-immune disease? I would think Hashis would have been affecting me since birth!

Hi all, my heart goes out to all who have been harmed by vaccines. please see link to a discussion by a neuroscientist who is able to clearly explain the mechanism of vaccine harm: http://www.homeopathyworldcommunity.com/m/group/discussion?id=3101571:Topic:27927

As for healing after being harmed, you will most likely need to do heavy metal detox with chlorella, spirulina and cilantro for the mercury and aluminum. You will need iodine and selenium for low thyroid. You will need b vitamins especially b12 for nerve damage. Vitamin C and D for immunity. And like other posters on this thread note, coconut oil and healthy fats are really healing. Vegetable juicing would help too. Of course it would be wonderful if you could find a chiropractor or homeopath to help you through this. There are still healers out there, it's just a matter of finding them and being able to afford care.

I go to the health food store to buy vitamins and stuff for me and my family, when I can afford it (as very expensive). I was given this pamphlet on homepathogy, (I think that is what it is, left the pamplet at my freinds.) anyways its an oral way of giving a flu vaccination as compared to an injection. As anyone ever heard of it or tried it and if so what were the results? Thanks. Oh I can never find my questions or replies ever, still looking for the other ones, so could someone please email me this respond if any and also at the same time let me know how to find my stuff. Thanks again. [email protected]

Undiagnosed Illness

I am writing to see if someone could help with my sister's situation, since this website has become an invaluable resource to me. She has been struggling with a fibromyalgia type illness for close to a year and a half now (not officially diagnosed). She is in her mid-teens and has had to drop out of school because of the weakness and fatigue, as well as the fact that she comes down with every little bug. She also says she has all over body aches and pains, as well as frequent headaches. It all started when she got mono, which was diagnosed early in 2008. This lasted many months and during that time she also had some swelling/enlargement of her spleen, which has since abated. The mono was going around among her friends, and probably contracted from sharing a drink. However, instead of getting better her situation progressively got worse.

Following up she was sent to a number of doctors. They were quick to diagnose her with depression, however, that just isn't the sister I know. She was down, yes, but only because she was sick. So they put her on cymbalta and they insisted on pushing the dose up to I think 90 mg, and she's a TINY person, approx 90 lbs and under five foot. This did not improve the situation and she's been lowered to about half dose. The doctor who prescribed it refused to think there was any other problem anyways. Other doctors, other tests and one finds she's dangerously low in vitamin D, so she starts on vitamin D supplements, megadoses taken once a week. It helps, but still she remains bedridden for the most part. At times antibiotics are prescribed and these seem to help, which makes it seem maybe there is a low grade chronic infection? Not sure.

Over time, I have done research and I can say some of it can likely be attributed to poor eating habits. But then we realize she had the gardasil vaccine shortly before ALL of this started. I don't want to say definitively that this is the cause, but it seems to strange to be a coincidence. Especially with everything I've been reading. Also, I don't want to get stuck on that diagnosis as the problem and overlook other possibilities.

Also, recently she took some immune system tests which showed that her immune system is responsive, it is not responding normally, which raises questions of autoimmune disorders?

What I'm really looking for is help and insight to get to the bottom of this and help to make her well again. Lately after a recent round of antibiotics she's doing better, but she has good and bad days and still mainly rests in bed. I refuse to believe there is nothing we can do, and also the doctors have unfortunately been relatively worthless and even have sometimes insinuated that my sister is faking and has duped my mom into believing it. I know she's not faking and I want her to be back to her old self. Please if anyone could help I would most greatly appreciate it! Thank you for your time and thank you for this wonderful site.

Bee, I am so very sorry to hear about your sister. How horrible. There was a case in England a few days ago about a young girl who died shortly after the Gardasil shot, but they came out 24 hours later saying she had a pre-existing medical condition. I don't quite believe that. There must be many more side effects from the Gardasil shot than what we can locate though a search engine. The pharmaceutical companies know how to hide damaging information from appearing in search engine results.You really have to dig to uncover the facts.

The one remedy that comes to mind for your sister that may be helpful is the hydrogen peroxide inhalation method. Please keep us updated on your sister's condition. Best, Tara.

I was thinking that the teenage girl who has energy and depression problems can try taking turmeric regularly. I have been thinking about that myself but haven't started it yet. I read on EC that turmeric is good to help autoimmune issues. (I need to bust out of a rut to incorporate new supplements.) I also read somewhere about adding black pepper to the turmeric might be important for assimilation. I bought turmeric at an Indian market and it was cheap.

Another thing I think is she might benefit from taking some food grade h2o2. If she doesn't have food grade yet then she could bathe in 3% h2o2 by pouring it on her body. I think it will get in her system and fight pathogens and increase her energy. She can also do the cure of the food grade h2o2 in the fine mist nasal spray bottle. What is the man's name who posted that? She might make magnesium oil and put it on her skin like we did. It has antiviral and antifungal properties. Oral magnesium malate will help, I believe. George Eby cured himself of depression with magnesium. She can read about that on the internet. She can search these things on EC also. I would remind her not to take vitamin C near the h2o2 because they will cancel each other out. Oxidant and antioxidant.

If she did get contaminated with the vaccine, I think those two supplements may be a good place to begin. But I don't know much, I just know what I would do and have done. I would clean up my diet drastically. Hippocrates said let your food be your medicine and let your medicine be your food. Calcium encourages viral growth so I would cut the milk and cheese. Sugar is a culprit and its common knowledge that it encourages fungus and yeast.

She might look into taking iodine. Dr. Brownstein has good info on that.

The vaccination may have been contaminated with a virus or fungus or bacteria or who knows what. So think along the lines of cleaning up the body and prepare it to fight its own battles. Also she might try taking oral magnesium malate, selenium, vitamin c along with the vit d she's taking.

Also lecithin granules is good to take between meals Ted says. Like oil pulling. Oh yea she can oil pull. Organic sesame oil is good. That will probably help.

I guess I'm thinking along the lines that she needs to detox from the vaccine. And don't get another one!

Her healing will be a process I'm sure. If she can just start by doing the things she has available and then add others as she can and see if she notices improvement.

If she will also relax and speak to her Creator and then listen, she might get some insight on what's going on with her.

I hope to hear a report that she gets her energy back.

Jane

In addition to the Vitamin D-3, which is critical, please make sure the girl is getting enough Vitamin C, because the immune system won't function properly without it. Not only that, but Mono is a virus, and viruses deplete the body of Vitamin C, so she could have scurvy and not even know it. Amazingly enough, doctors are taught that most people get enough Vitmin C, even though that is NOT true (of course, to doctors, "enough" is a mere 60mg/day), and since they assume that most people are Vitamin C sufficient, they don't even recognize the signs of scurvy, even when they are staring them in the face.

Thank you to all for your thoughtful comments, I will be sure to pass this information along. I know she was taking some chewable vitamin c that I also take, I turned her on to a certain brand that tastes really good which made it much easier to remember to take. She's always been picky about tastes and textures. I will have to check if she still takes that.

Also, I did just hear about the case of the girl dying after receiving the vaccine. I've seen other people write about similar experiences, and though the vaccine companies aren't coming out with this information, I just don't think all these cases are coincidence. Also, she had more vaccines than me or my other sister and she's gotten the newer vaccines which weren't around when we were younger, like the chicken pox vaccine, etc. And she's the only one who has had these problems. Although she was more picky about eating nutritious food than us, so I'm sure that didn't help either. It scares me to think about all the vaccines they are pushing nowadays, with questionable efficacy and many health risks. It's just so important for people to realize that they shouldn't put the trust of their health into other's hands, I've been doing my own research for years now and would never rely on a doctor's diagnosis alone. They can be great for some things, but they are still human and it's your body and your health. As for vaccines, I am and would advise anyone to be very cautious about getting them. Especially reading the news about the mandatory H1N1 vaccines frightens me. I feel like that could especially be dangerous for my sister, yet they would say she probably should be high priority for one.

Anyways, thanks again for this site! I definitely am glad that there are resources like this and know that there are definitely things that can help my sister and cases like hers. I remain optimistic that things can get much better!

Probiotics to counter the antibiotics, and if she's had several courses you may be looking at a serious candida problem. For overall strenthening green powders are fantastic. I used to get every bug that was going around. Since starting a green powder I haven't been sick once-going on 2 years now. A good one will run 35-40$ and be mostly greens with little fruit or bran fillers. Start with a teaspoon twice a day and work up to a tablespoon two times a day. Healthfood stores carry the best quality-ask the staff for a recommendation. Get the best. This is one area not to skimp on. Rather than a single megadose of vit D once a week try 800 IU every day. And get a saliva test for adrenals. I have read of mono triggering hypoadrenia and I guarantee your doctor won't look for it. Clean up the diet. Nothing will help if she's eating junk. This has an inflammatory component so you will need to study up on anti-inflammatory and alkalizing diets. I hope this helps you.

That gardasil shot has been linked to deaths and severe side effects. A few yrs ago my niece suddenly stopped talking to people she would only talk to me, my sister and our mother. My sister took her to various drs. to a child psychologist who said she must have had some traumatic event happen to her. Out of desperation my sister took her to a health food store that does an iris eye test, they concluded that she was overloaded with toxins from vaccinations, my sister put her on a vaccine detox supplement, sublingual b-12 and a few other products and shortly after she was back to normal. if you research vaccinations the ingredients are horrible you should have her see an herbalist and get her on a detox regimine of some sort. I heard on another website (i guess i can't mention)that 1 drop of mercury spilled and hazmat crews are called because it is so toxic but yet children can be loaded with it in vaccines along with monkey kidneys and various other ingredients. please update us on her progress. God bless

I have been in a similar situation for the last two decades. Mono, fatigue, poor immune system led to a reduction in exercise and proper nutrition and an increase in stress and symptoms. I was also diagnosed as suffering from depression, Fibromyalgia, non restorative sleep, a severe D deficiency, early menopause, and so on. Stress was a major contributor to my lapses. I knew my system was out of sync, but drs and homeopaths offered me diagnoses, marginal short term improvements, but no clear cause. Supplements and Remedies helped delay a serious health outcome.

The lesson I learned is to maintain a healthy lymphatic system. In my most critical state of health, or lack thereof, eating food in its basic state like carrot, apple and wheatgrass juice, bran and banana smoothies with cayenne/honey and other herbal supplements, proscribed by an herbalist, helped my body to focus on healing and not digestion and absorbtion. A liter of pure water, plus keen attention to achieving several bowel movements each day. Bouncing gently on a trampoline daily and castor oil rubbed on my glands and abdomen kept me alive. I don't know if I'll survive my condition as years of misdiagnosis and toxicity from lymphatic blockage have run their course. I hope my experience can help her to possibly avoid my situation. I hope your sister gains strength from your love and the help of nutrients, and a improved lymphatic function.

My daughter was suffering from the exact same symptoms and missed 30% of her school year. We were frustrated with our doctor because they too suggested it was depression. Here it is - we changed doctors and she was diagnosed with Hashimoto's Autoimmune diseas. She was undiagnosed and untreated for so long that her blood work revealed amazing off the chart increases that stated hypothyroidism and all of her symptoms were hyperthyroidism. She was very sick. I feel fortunate that I made the right decision to change doctors at the exact time that I did - I have no idea what may have happened to her if it had prolonged any further. I can't imagine what caused this to happen to her - I am suspicious of the Gardasil vaccine, it seems that a lot of her friends who are mere teenagers are having issues with their thyroid. It is a no brainer that something has been introduced to our childre's environmet that has spawned a disease that traditionally belonged to older adults.

Hello, it's been years since you posted, but I was curious if the doctors ever discovered what was the matter with your sister? The Epstein-Barr virus (mono) is thought to play a role in triggering Hashimoto's thyroiditis, an autoimmune thyroid disease. I would recommend getting her thyroid levels tested if that hasn't already been done.

I'm sorry I don't know how to post websites w/o copy & paste. Go to Weston A Price, click on their health topics, go down to vaccine. I have others, Natural News, search their HPV & vaccine. Vaccines are for profit only & they can't be sued so they don't care if they harm or not. I have more sites, just don't know how to post them. Best to you!

Chickenpox in child with no vaccines:

My son is 18 months and just came down with chickenpox. He doesn't have any immunizations whatsoever. Could this be hazardous since he has no shots, or does it not really matter? Also, is there anything I can give to my other children to prevent them from getting it as well? Thanks.

Chicken pox is a natural child "sickness". As is the mumps and the measles. I have read that for children to get these "diseases", it helps to build their immune systems, and I believe that. They just came out with the Chicken pox shot within the last decade or so. Generations before have survived these "ailments".

Thanks. I figured it wasn't too big of a deal. I wasn't even really sure it was chicken pox since it doesn't look quite like the pictures i have found online. He hasn't had a fever or anything and they don't seem to itch him. Could it be just a mild case? Perhaps because he doesn't have the shots...I wonder. I read to keep him separated from the other kids, but that is pretty much impossible. Thanks for helping me out. I definitely don't regret not giving them shots. I know they are healthier for it! All 4 of them have been so healthy...this is the first thing that has come against us, so it threw me for a loop.

Hi Rachel, Just thought I should follow up- my first son only had three eruptions and no other symptoms. I just watched and observed questioning if it could at all be the chicken pox. Then my daughter broke out in them shortly after and finally my third son who had it pretty badly which confirmed that my oldest did get them but an extremely mild case. Also, I wanted to say that the best thing is to let them move through the illness but keep them comfortable through it. Do research in homeopathy as there are remedies to help through the discomfort and possibly shorten up the duration. If you google homeopathy for chicken pox you will find remedies for the various ways that the illness manifests. Hope this helps.

That is true, chicken pox is a childhood illness that children were supposed to get to provide lifetime immunity. Also, these illnesses do build up the immune system. They don't talk about that anymore since they are trying to sell vaccines.

I JUST HAD MY 16 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER TO THE PHYSICIAN FOR A SPORTS PHYSICAL AND HE SUGGESTED THE MENACTRA VACCINE BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A QUICK AND DEADLY VIRUS? WHAT HAVE OTHER PARENTS DECIDED? THANK YOU

Based on that blog, if the Menactra vaccine is ineffective 30-50% of the time, then it is effective 50-70% of the time. That sounds like pretty good odds to me, and would you really want to say to yourself, 'I wish I had given her that vaccine, ' when your child is in the hospital like I was, with that strain of meningitis that most likely is covered by the vaccine?

This question is for Woong from malaysia: How do you get your kids in school without them being vaccinated. I have also heard many negative things about vaccines but am worried that my children would not be accepted in school if I dont get them vaccinated. Can you please advice.

From Dr. Mercola's site - Legally avoiding vaccinations:
http://www.mercola.com/article/vaccines/legally_avoid_shots.htm

Vaccination Liberation - looks to be a great resource with letter templates, links to state laws, etc.
http://www.vaclib.org/index.htm

Excellent letter from a lawyer parent to a school board:
http://www.vaclib.org/letters/Letter_Oregon_School_District.htm

With the swine flu being so hyped and school starting again soon, we are potentially facing some big issues. We may encounter pressure, if not outright assault, on our sovereign rights over our own bodies and the care of our children. Arm yourself with knowledge now to stay healthy and to keep Big Pharma and government out of your bodies, your childrens' bodies, and your wallet.

IF, just in case...if there were mandatory vaccinations, especially for our children. What can a novice to natural remedies do to prevent harm from the vaccinations. I have read a few things online, but most would confuse someone who has never heard of MMS or a mixture of other supplements. What would be the most understandable method of protection. Thanks!

Kathleen, what I did for my elder one was I fed her flax seed oil, coconut oil, spirulina, loads of Vit. C, all the good stuff I can afford or get my hands on. This was when she was a baby but as long as your child is willing to take them, feed them especially coconut oil. If you refer to coconut oil and it's benefits in this website or any other website, you'll find that it covers a lot of things.

My younger child, I refuse to let her be given even Vitamin K at birth. Absolutely nothing and she is stronger than the sis. Except for Roseola, she dun get fever. FLus, yes. Just give her water, vit c.

I'd question the doctors till I get a confident answer from the doctor. Read the inserts for the vaccine. Is it 100% effective? If not then give u something that is 100% effective? Will there be side-effects? Docs will most likely say mild fever, rashes, etc BUT is the doctor willing to support your child for life should your child get bad reactions such as seizure, paralyse, etc? Most likely you'd get kicked out of the doc's office if u were to question like that but hey it's your child's health and life we are talking about here. If your child can't function like a normal person, do you know who will take care of the child? YOU!!!

Read about nutrition, understand food. We can't be perfect but you have got to be strong-willed to not let your child consume too much sugary food, junk food. It's not easy. I am surrounded by ppl who hands out candies to kids to calm them but I am firm with my NO. Unless I am not aware, Ihave never seen my child licked a lollipop before.

Meat, as far as I can avoid them for my child, I will. My understanding is that meat takes 3 times longer to digest and sitting inside too long will produce toxic stuff so maybe when they are older.

Refer to Dr. Mercola's site, read Dr.Mendelssoh's book, www.doctoryourself.com, www.nmaseminars.com, http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/, www.thinktwice.com n d sites they refer. Find your balance.

Does anyone out there know if it is required to get your child immunized to go to school. They are telling us that if our children are not they cannot enter school. I do not want my child to be immunized.

In most states there is a form you can fill out to state that you do not immunize. Ask for the form, or check online to get the correct laws for your state. We homeschool, and yet, we still need to fill out a form with the school district stating we choose not to immunize.

Tamara from Boaz Alabama.

All you need to do is sign a paper that says, that for religious reason you don't want your children vaccinated. Ask the school about it they should have a form. We did this in Washington, Oregon, Iowa. so I think they can force you to take vaccinations, they can say that your children can't come to school if there is an epidemic I think, but you really don't want them at school in that circumstance anyway. Hope this helps.

Aurora

Hi about vaccinations. In Michigan you had to sign off with the school. My step daughter does not vaccinate her kids and all three are in school. Check with your school district.

Hi Tamara, from Boaz, Alabama. You've been given good advice already about the religious exemptions. I just want to add that you can also get it at your local health department.

I'm so happy you made the decision you have. I wish my daughter had listened. My two grandsons are both affected from vaccines (although tptb will never admit it). My 6 yr old grandson has ADHD (a pre-curser to Autisim). My nearly 2 yr old grandson is about to undergo testing for Autisim. It breaks my heart to see any child damaged with vaccines.

I am back to update that my 3rd girl is also totally vaccine-free and she has yet to see a doctor.. She's already 19 months. She is a homebirth baby so absolutely no vaccine, no vit k, no eye goops... Lotus birth... she is jaundice-free..

I am expecting no. 4 now and God-willing, this will be a homebirth too and totally no vaccines either...

I am 28 years old and am pregnant with my first child. I was recently asked by my doctor if I wanted the TDAP vaccine. I haven't had a vaccine since I was a child and have always been against the Flu shots that are so widely pushed these days. This had me researching vaccines and I know that most pediatricians will want my child to start them. Honestly I don't know all of them and I know they have increased significantly since I was a child. I happened to come across Earth Clinic researching TDAP vaccine and I thought it would be helpful to ask advice from like-minded/open minded people.

By reading this discussion I see that a lot of you are against most or all vaccines. I am against most that they push on adults such as the flu, but haven't really had to think much about all the ones they are giving children these days. I know most pediatricians will look at you like your crazy for not wanting your child to receive any type of vaccine. I want to continue my research and was wondering if there are any websites that anyone recommends that list the vaccines given to children and what is actually in them? I also would like to find a pediatrician that would be open to the idea of not giving vaccines and open to homeopathic medicine if they exist. Any information on the subject would be greatly appreciated. I have already learned a lot from others whom have posted information on the subject, but anything new would be great.

Thanks, Danielle

First of all, the doctor works for you! You are the boss. You tell them what to do and you need to start behaving like a boss right now. Make sure you are comfortable before your child is born. Your infant will be protected at birth from your own immunities. Wait until the child is at least 2 yrs old if you must give them the vaccines. Go to The Farmacy on facebook, they have alot of information. Your child DOES NOT have to have them to attend school. You will most likely have to sign a form, that's all. They cannot ask you why! It is your choice. Please take steps to learn your rights now, before you have this child. Autism is rampant, and they (CDC) will never convince me that vaccinations don't have something to do with it. Please continue to educate yourself and family members. Good luck to you.

Yes, start reading now. I used to be sceptical and then I heard they used mercury, aluminum and formaldehyde. These are serious neurotoxins and yes they still use them for pregnant moms and babies (flu, tetanus and some others). Detailed discussion here: http://www.whale.to/vaccine/king.html#Thimerosal_myth_1:

Hi Jacqui.....my daughter is do to give birth in a few weeks and was given the prenatal whooping cough vaccine with more vaccines to follow after birth. I am concerned. I would love to connect with you and more so with my daughter....Do you happen to have a blog or other way to engage with you?

Concerned in Michigan......Constance

Regarding vaccines, I have a question about about the HPV Gardisil vaccine... I recently got this vaccine for my 16 yr old daughter while at a dr appt. The doctor recommended, so I listened to the dr. This was before I knew about this website and the important information here. I sincerely regret ever getting her this vaccine and I am wondering if there is any way to "detox" her from this? She got the shot about 3-4 months ago. Please advise, I am very concerned now. Thank you so much!!

Ted posted a response to a similar question re Swine flu vaccination. He suggested Lysine, Hydrogen Peroxide and fresh coriander (aka cilantro or Chinese parsley). I am not sure if Lysine is specific to the swine flu virus, but the coriander will be useful as will the HP. The coriander is eaten to remove heavy metals (Mercury) from the body and this metal is thought to be present in all vaccinations. You can check out the Heavy Metal Detox page for more information. The HP is not so simple if you've never used it before. You should read up on this (there's a page dedicated to HP) and make sure you buy the right kind (food grade) and dilute it properly (to a 3% solution). If you don't like the thought of drinking it (I didn't at first either), you can also bathe in it and it will enter the system.

WARNING!

32 girls have died!

Please watch video on drastic side effects of Gardasil vaccine which is supposed to prevent cervical cancer. We have to admit it works, because I have never heard of a dead person who developed cervical cancer from and reportedly 32 have already died following the vaccine!!!!!! If you have a web site you might save a few lives by adding a link to this site on your web site!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msoyRYSoSJk&o=1672350&u=53322284&l=1608440&g=6810

Hopefully most of you have heard about the avian flu vaccine in Europe although our propaganda media apparently plans to keep it hid. Seems some brilliant scientist injected some little 4 leggeds with the vaccine and they died from avian flu. When they called it to the manufacturers attention, they said they had accidently contaminated the vaccine with the avian flu virus. When pressed to explain how they managed to accidently contaminate the vaccine with this particular virus, their story changed to they had accidently shipped out the avial flu virus instead of the the flu vaccine?????????? How did this happen ACCIDENTALLY?????? For more on this go to Natural Solutions Foundation! http://www.hsibaltimore.com/

Nosodes - Alternate Vaccines for Children: I have been search for two years for an alternative to giving my son tradition vaccines. He is two years old and I finally found the solution for my family. Nosodes. They are homeopathic remedies that are made from the specific products of a particular disease. This can be tissue containing the actual disease agents or tissue affected by those agents. Sometimes nosodes are made from vaccines containing the organisms. The nosodes are prepared in a diluted and potentized form just like all other homeopathic medicine. There is no potential for an animal to become infected with a given disease agent from a nosode because of the pharmaceutical process that occurs which dilutes and inactivates any viable organisms.

I found a local doctor to prepare the mix for me and I will be giving oral doses to my son 3X day. I have 3 bottles and they cover all of his vaccines including the flu without any of the harmful chemicals of traditional vaccines.