Posted by Rich (Niles, Trumbull) on 03/20/2008
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I am trying HP added to distilled water to treat my wife who is disabled and unable walk. I am trying 35% hp in distilled water/6 drops per 6oz once per day. I would appreciate any recommendations. She seems to be more mentally alert and aware. Have been using for about a month and just recently increased from 3 to 6 drops.
Posted by Rich (Niles, Trumbull) on 03/20/2008
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I am trying HP added to distilled water to treat my wife who is disabled and unable walk. I am trying 35% hp in distilled water/6 drops per 6oz once per day. I would appreciate any recommendations. She seems to be more mentally alert and aware. Have been using for about a month and just recently increased from 3 to 6 drops.
Posted by Isabel G (San Antonio, Tx) on 04/14/2009
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I suffered from season allergies, anyone who has them knows hos miserable it can make you feel...I actually started with ____, which is the same thing as colostrum but more technical and scientific, I ended up changing to colostrum because of the price...anyhow when cedar comes along all i need is my colostrum pill and the symptoms are almost none...while before i was taking oral medicine, eye allergy drops and still feel terrible and what to say about all the side effects from them . I really swear by this product.
Posted by Dallas (San Diego, California USA) on 03/29/2007
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Reader Question from Saint Clair Shores' asked if they could try other therapies along wtih Copaxone treatment. As Ted said, "YES". Copaxone is a complex amino acid chain that simply acts as a decoy and gives your immune system something to work on instead of attacking the myelin cover on the nerves.
Shared Solutions which helps patients manage their Copaxone therapy says that there's no drug or vitamin interaction with Copaxone so it's safe to take other meds and supplements. Once on Copaxone, do everything in your power to remain on the Copaxone therapy. Yeah it's a hassle with the daily injection but it's a small needle and much easier to deal with than Avaonex or Beta Seron. Usually the only problem could be an injection site reaction. I know people that took Beta Seron years ago before Copaxone came along and they had flu like symptons after taking the injection.
Even if you're not on Copaxone, go to the SharedSolutions.com web site and look at the info. Then give them a call and get signed up with them and they'll send you more info and keep you on their mailing list. Copaxone isn't cheap and you likely need insurance to offset most of the cost and Shared Solutions can possibly help with finding financial help.
But definately yes, try other natural therapies and adding supplements to your daily routine. Just as MS affects each of us differently, one thing might work for you while it doesn't work for the rest of us. Unless you're lucky enough to have an amazing Neurologist then it's up to you to educate yourself, network with group and individuals and sometimes be your own doctor to see what helps you.
And like others said here, plenty of sleep and a REGULAR schedule really helps most people suffering from MS. And here I am writing this at 4am :-) I can attest to having a mixed up sleep schedule and how it works against you.
Even though Copaxone has worked well for me and a good friend that takes it, I'd be interested in trying the Honey Bee Venon supplement. I'd seen a video years ago about people with MS getting together and doing group Honey Bee Venom therapy through actual Bee stings. It looked painful but it sure worked for many of the people.
I rambled on here quite a bit because if mentioning a single item here can point someone down the path to finding relief from MS, then I've done a good deed for the day. Be your own doctor, be your own researcher, be proactive and hopefully you too can find help.
May God Bless each of you.
Posted by Rsw (O! For This Reason.) on 02/17/2017
Hi Heather,
I forgot to mention that if you are taking opiate based pain medicine, the LDN will block it, which also may be why you feel more pain after taking the LDN. This has the potential of throwing a person who is dependent on the opiate pain meds into a dangerous withdrawal. The ONLY thing that LDN should NOT be taken with is opiate based drugs, for this reason. Some people take pain medicine (Tremadol - sp?)in the morning, and LDN at night, 12 hours apart, and this seems to work for them. I would join the LDN Yahoo Group to get specific information about this from people who use it this way. LDN seems to work better for people with MS when they take it at night, between 10PM and 2AM.
Posted by Serena (Clover Sc) on 02/17/2014
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This is to Ga_bass from Atlanta, Ga 05/01/2013 concerning friend that was diagnosed with MS. Please tell her to research low dose Naltrexone. It has stopped MS symptoms for many. Good luck and stay away from artificial sweeteners.
Posted by Rsw (Uniontown, Oh) on 08/02/2013
Low dose naltrexone is 89% effective in stopping MS progression. It is inexpensive, an FDA approved drug, has no side effects except possibly vivid dreams for a week or two, and is taken by pill or liquid. See www.ldninfo.org.
Another all natural product that has been excellent in several MS people I have talked with or heard of, is a Lion's Mane mushroom product made by Mat--x Mushroom. The person I talked with had been taking Avonex for 13 years, had loss of feeling in the legs, began taking the mushroom product and can now ride her horse since she now can once again feel her legs. Her other symptoms are also gone. A man in CA was in a wheelchair, took the mushroom product and now can swim, walk, and works 14 hour days for the mushroom company. He was so happy with the product that he asked for a job and got it. They are now making a product especially for MS people, that contains Lion's Mane, Reishi and Cordyceps. (I have no financial or other interest in this company) Best wishes!
Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 03/08/2014
Pete, re your MS;
Also look into a substance that Dr Robert Adkins used as his number one go to for his MS patients that he would give to them in IV form, although the oral consumption I have seen is amazingly effective for the symptoms you describe; "Calcium AEP" and the "calcium" part is not the issue...it is the AEP part that is the miracle. You can google "Nutrition Review Calcium AEP" and find an amazing article on the 20 different things AEP can do to help the human body, To deal with leg symptoms, especially when stressed, up to eight tablets of AEP are needed.
Also, I have found Colloidal Silver to be effective in killing viral infections. It is theorized that MS has as a trigger a virus.
Posted by Iowama (Pella, Ia) on 08/29/2011
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Let me start by saying that I do not have MS. In fact, it has been through my own search for a nutritional prevention for Macular Degeneration that I have become familiar with the work of Dr. Terry Wahls, a member of the faculty of University of Iowa Medical School. It was through her newsletter that I began to learn thorough explainations on how nutrition can protect us from chronic disease. Her newsletter led me to look into Oil-Pulling, which led me to this website. Dr. Wahls is a practicing physician who spent four years in a tilt/recline wheelchair before reversing her own MS through a protocol of nutrition and electrotherapy. She is currently conducting a clinical trial of her method. Like I said, I don't have MS, but I don't want anyone else to have it either.
Posted by Marina (Bristol, UK) on 07/20/2009
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I was diagnosed with MS 2 years ago, after several bladder infections and major dizzy spells. Several years previously I was diagnosed with very low levels of Vitamin D, a fallout from the anti sun campaign prevalent in Australia where I was living at the time. I dont know if any of you saw recently the Times headline about the link between low vit D and MS, I have been aware of this for some time, as there appears to be very low rate of MS near the equator, but I also agree with the previous posts re Turmeric and selenium both of which I use sporadically{ of course in India one would presumably have higher sun exposure too.}, I take cod liver oil capsules containing 25 to 50 ugs of vit D daily, depending on time of year ,sun exposure etc. The other thing that seems to help, sometimes quite radically is sub lingual B 12 which I also take every other day. I do think its important to take a complete B supplement as well [ or good multi vit] so that you dont imbalance your B groups. Oh and good quality fish oils are great, flax for vegetarians. I havent taken any medications and my symptoms are much much better. Sugar makes everything worse!
Posted by Andreka (Atlanta, GA) on 12/04/2008
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My MS is well under control never took any MS Meds went to a VEGAN Vegetarian Diet -- no white flour Products no meats, no Dairy my DR. says I look 5 younger years later @ 33yrs.old I'm doing so much better From Severe Progreesive to thriving and loving it.
Posted by Mary (Southaven, MS) on 05/18/2008
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This is so strange; I found this site while researching about my dog's bad reaction to vaccination. I watched the video on You-Tube in the above link, thinking it was about animals. It was about human vaccinations. In the information, it mentioned persons getting auto-immune diseases, such as multiple sclerosis, after routine vaccinations. My husband got MS 8 years ago when he was 48 -- after taking his very first-ever flu shot, and had received a tetnus booster just a month or so before. Coincidence???.... I can see I have some more research to do. As for my chihuahua, after reading all the stories on here, she will NEVER receive another vaccination of any kind. She is strictly an indoor dog and I no longer see the need for it.
Posted by Leslie (Indianapolis, In) on 10/23/2009
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It is possible his vaccination contained a preservative called Thimerosol which is mercury-containing. Mercury is highly toxic to the human body. I have had bad reactions after vaccinations. Mercury is also present in "silver" dental amalgam fillings of the teeth and has been implicated as a possible contributor towards MS. It could be a heavy metals issue or that the vaccination was the impetus for an immune response that triggered the MS. FYI.
Posted by Dudley (Virginia Beach, Va) on 12/14/2009
I am a retired registered nurse, massage therapist, and Doctor of Chiropractic. I wrote "The Edgar Cayce Way of Overcoming Multiple Sclerosis: Vibratory Medicine" to document my successful use of the Cayce material in putting my multiple sclerosis into remission.
As a healthcare professional, I diagnosed my condition based on the many signs and symptoms that were so typical of MS that, in my opinion, no other diagnosis was reasonably possible.
Edgar Cayce is widely regarded as the father of modern holistic medicine, and the various alternative treatments he recommended have helped countless thousands. Literally hundreds of books and articles have been written about his amazing insights into sickness and disease.
I do not claim to be "cured," nor does my book hold out hope of a "cure" to its readers. Rather, the Cayce approach to treating MS works for some and not for others, and if one discontinues the treatment, symptoms return. Also, it requires a great deal of patience and persistence, and involves working with diet, massage, and a very mild form of electrotherapy. It also demands that one keep a positive mental attitude and maintain a high spiritual ideal.
A small pilot study showed that it was of definite benefit to most of the MSers who could stick to it.
Because Cayce's MS treatment is so demanding, however, it has limited value as a practical solution to the MS dilemma.
My book can be read free of cost or obligation by visiting
http://www.webspawner.com/users/multscler2/index.html
Posted by Jacqueline (Athlone, Westmeath, Ireland.) on 06/12/2011
Len from Chicago, "There is also medical treatment available from scientists who have put their products through all the rigorous trials required for a drug to be deemed both safe and efficacious.
Considering the well documented and severe side effects from a lot of pharmaceuticals medicines and their tendency to treat only the symptoms and not the underlying causes. Which can lead to a long term dependency and usually damage to the liver. I think there can be no harm in giving these natural remedies (which have been used for hundreds, sometimes thousands of years without strong side effects) a try.
Posted by Deb (Florida ) on 03/24/2016
LDN must be prescribed by a MD & comes from a compounding pharmacy. Around $20 a month. I think you should start low to see how you react 1 to 1.5 mg, then 3 mg, then 4.5 mg if it doesn't bother you. It makes me VERY dizzy, then nauseous. Good luck!
Posted by Heather (Cincinnati, Oh) on 02/13/2017
I find LDN therapy for MS interesting. I have been on 2 mga twice a day everyday as it's in combination with my pain med. I actually notice more pain within 45 mins of taking it. I was diagnosed at 16 and I am now 32 so being so young and independent I sought out less acceptable ways of dealing with effects of MS. (i.e.) cocaine, which actually worked, I had no symptoms, amongst other dumb street drugs that numbed the depression and helped me block what was going on with my body.
Long story short when I wised up I found that the crap the docs gave me was making me worse so I sought out natural alternatives and I have felt much better without the injections and percocet and zoloft etc. I happened upon this H2O2 therapy and am going to try it along with all my supplements. The biggest thing through it all that I want to try and eliminate is the pain I experience so hopefully this helps and I can get rid of pain meds even with LDN altogether
Posted by Rsw (Oh) on 08/06/2018
3mg. of LDN is often recommended for those with MS due to spasticity problems in some at 4.5 mg. If muscle cramping or spasms occurs at 4.5mg/day, reduce your dose to 3mg/day and see if you feel better. You will still reap the benefits of LDN.
Posted by Hope (Hannibal, Mo) on 11/29/2009
I am confused because I thought calcium was NOT to be taken at all -- because there is so much excess calcium in our systems from every direction. There is a hypothesis that excess calcium creates blockage by attaching to inflammation, and that blockages are causing back wash of blood into the brain, creating MS symptoms.
Posted by Patrice (Uniontown, Pa.) on 02/08/2011
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For MS holistic treatments, I have found that taking B6 [which helps with PMS and mood for me] and Bcomplex vitamin helps with the muscle shaking tremors which I get alot on using weight bearing or squeezing an item with hands or legs. Also helps immensely with energy boosting. Also take 2000 iu of D3, calcium, magnesium.
Posted by Mario (Dallas) on 12/10/2020
Dr. Terry Wahls protocol for MS.
Posted by Rialc (Ireland) on 10/07/2023 7 posts
Hi
My partner has MS for a long time, his walking is deteriorating. He is taking Ampyra. I wonder if LDN would be a benefit for him.
We are living in Ireland but I don't know where to get LDN. Has anyone bought LDN in Ireland or Europe?
Posted by Stephanie (San Francisco, Ca) on 11/03/2013
MS (Multiple Sclerosis) Remedies Needed
Inclined Bed Therapy (IBT)
I would like to suggest people with MS look into Inclined Bed Therapy, which by definition, is the process of sleeping on a bed that is inclined by 4 to 6" at the head of the bed so that the entire body is sleeping on an angle(not just the head, or top half of the body, like with a pillow). The easiest way to do this is to put risers(square, plastic or wood blocks) under the two posts at the head of the bed.
Inclined Bed Therapy takes the pressure off the spine, allowing circulation into the brain stem, allowing new stem cells to develop. People with MS that have practiced IBT nightly for several months report MS symptoms going into remission. There are several websites dedicated to Inclined Bed Therapy and several testimonials, even one man that claims he can walk again due to IBT after only 6 months.
Some of the other reported benefits of IBT include sleeping better through the night, reduced back pain, reduced snoring, reduced sleep apnea and reduced acid reflux, reduced need to urinate in the middle of the night(due to gravity separating the heavy particles from the water particles forcing more water elimination through the lungs as oppose to the bladder). For testimonials regarding many other benefits to sleeping this way, refer to IBT listed here on earthclinic and other websites online, or refer to Andrew K. Fletcher, he is the original person trying to help get the word out. He claims that even the Egyptians, who were brilliant, knew to sleep this way!
If you do have MS, and decide to give IBT a try, please talk to your doctor first and report back your experience here to help others.
Posted by Just A Thinking Guy (Kansas) on 08/02/2013
Posted by Rsw (Uniontown, Oh) on 01/21/2012
I have some good news for you. Please look at this website, www.ldninfo.org. LDN is an inexpensive, FDA approved drug, which when taken in a very small dose can help with many autoimmune diseases, and is usually very effective in stopping progression of MS. Additionally, please join the Yahoo LDN group that has over 10,000 members, at least half of whom have MS. They will help you very willingly and with much understanding and experience. You are not alone and help is as close as your computer. Best wishes!
Posted by Laura (Denver, Co) on 02/01/2012
Hi Orshi, I have MS too, I have found oxygen therapy helpful. Hydrogen peroxide, and also Homozon. I did CCSVI treatment several times but while there were benefits they only last 6 months for me. I had it again and veins were open but symptoms came back. After lots of supplements, and continued progression, I tried stem cell therapy which stopped the progression and with exercise seems to be helping me get better. Went from wheelchair to walker outside the house. It's been 2 months.
Laura laura.laurapino[at]gmail[dot]com
Posted by Jonathan (Asheville, North Carolina) on 05/21/2010
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I like to learn from other people's experiences. Having been diagnosed with "it LOOKS like you MIGHT have ms", I wanted to do something immediately. I was going deaf in one ear, having trouble walking, etc. My indefatigable will to walk and not be crippled by this menace was effective but not good enough. Now I am Vegan, but I warn those with MS to stay the hell AWAY FROM SUGAR, ALCOHOL, CAFFEINE, GLUTEN, DAIRY, and any kind of FUNGI! DOING A CANDIDA CLEANSE WILL HELP. Also, take something with DHA and EPA combined, phosphatidyl serine, DHLA, and Gingko/ginseng. Now I am SUPERMAN! I feel great. (I also take LDN).
Posted by Joyce (Joelton, Tn) on 05/20/2010 490 posts
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I seem to recall a number of people on earthclinic.com seeking help with MS. You might want to put a link to this site on EC.
http://www.healthiertalk.com/new-discovery-liberation-treatment-multiple-sclerosis-1789
Seems that Dr. Zamboni (Italy) seeking help for his own wife determined that it is a vascular problem rather than an autoimmune disease. Thank God for the Zamboni's of this planet earth.
Of course they will probably have a little trouble finding someone in USA doing the liberation procedure. I would suggest contacting some place like Mayo Clinic for information.
Posted by Phyl (Ocklawaha, Fl) on 08/26/2009
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Research has now shown that the cause of MS is the lack of vitamin D3. On the web site patientslikeme.com a group of patients have been keeping a journal. All the research that is being done in the world says the you can take up to 40,000 iu of D3 a day and it is not toxic. There is alot of info to read. In my own research, John Hopkins told the FDA years ago that people were deficient in Vitamin D3 and there would be more diseases because of it. I have MS and I am not able to walk without a cane, walker or I use a wheelchair. I am on Copaxone and have no trouble with it. There is a new drug going for FDA approval in Oct., it is call Fampridine. It is suppose to help with walking ability. I live one day at a time.
Posted by Wendy (Mississippi) on 04/09/2015
Hi David, your post, by far, has been very enlightening and has opened my eyes to things that I've been missing in regards to treating my MS. When you discuss the Primrose oil, how much should I be taking daily or more than once a day and do I take it with something else or do I just drink it doesn't come in a capsule? Also, in regards to Dr. Atkins book Vita nutrients does the title also include something about all the other drugs. I have had MS for 10 years and I have been a doctor of pharmacy for 20+ years but I no longer work but instead I do consults from home. You have given me hope and truly means more than anything else. Thank you for the information. I hope this text makes it to you and know it was written a few years back and I hope you are doing well. Thanks for the info and I look forward to hearing from you. God bless
Posted by Mary (Ny NY) on 04/19/2022
Coconut oil is high in saturated fat. 1 tablespoon contains 13 grams of saturated fat which is 65% DV (Daily Value). Per Dr Hyman, coconut oil is good so long as it is used moderately on a low sugar diet. The real villain that robs our health and increases our waistlines is sugar and anything that breaks down to sugar like refined carbohydrates. Quality fats like coconut oil and anti-inflammatory omega-3 fats help edge out sugars and inflammatory refined omega 6 fat vegetable oils.
Posted by Ray (Calgary, Alberts) on 12/29/2012
Belle of the south, sorry but I agree with Violet of Chicago about coconut oil. Coconut oil is a marvelous thing but you have to be very careful about how you use it (as with all things. ) It is not saturated fat but it does have mid chain fatty acids. I started taking it for my thyroid and immediately had paralyzed arms and numbness. I stopped the COil and it went away. A few days later I tried again and the numbness returned. Now I take the coconut oil in much reduced amounts. Too much of a good thing is bad. I had also recommended the cononut oil to my wife.. Same sort of numbness reaction. Use coconut oil... like I do, but as Violet of Chicago says, go easy on the amounts.
Posted by Rich (Boca Raton, Fl) on 01/30/2009
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For the "Partial Leg Paralysis" or "Arm Paralysis" claim, I have to admit that I found myself somewhat skeptical about the "Edgar Cayce Electricity claim". However, it appears that one electrical device has now been clinically verified to "repair this symptom". This device was recently showcased on the Doctors TV show.
Bioness Announces NESS H200 and L300 Systems to Be Available at 88 HealthSouth Hospitals Nationwide
http://www.healthjockey.com/2007/05/26/nes-l300-electrical-stimulation-device-for-partial-leg-paralysis-unveiled/
There is a fungalbionics book which seems to implicate the Aspergillus fungus as a possible cause of MS (Ergot poisoning). It seems to say MS is responsive to Nystatin, a non-absorbed antifungal medication. Note: Many nystatin medications are mixed with sucrose(sugar), and so this may reduce effectiveness. I suspect that the SSKI remedy would be beneficial to many ms patients, but I have no experience dealing with the matter, so defer to Ted on the matter.
Posted by Jennm (Buffalo, Ny) on 04/13/2010
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Do some research on gut permeability and gluten. Increase RAW fruits and veggies, Reduce sugar, do away with form of wheat (bread, pasta, etc,...); and get some sun. I am doing well with these simple, and even better, CHEAP ways.
Posted by Ruth (Atlanta, GA) on 01/04/2009
Response to Amy: Ask your friends and colleagues for acupuncture referrals.They will usually send you to a good one. At least that's my experience. However, do make sure you see the one that they recommend! I made a mistake last year when I went to the partner of a acupuncturist who had been recommended by a good friend. The woman, a traditional chinese acupuncturist from China, was booked a month in advance but I was able to get in and see her partner, (her husband as it turns out) right away. He was also a professor of medicine at a nearby university, so I thought he must be good. He turned out to be a peeping tom, lifting up my underwear on 2 different sessions to quickly peep underneath. The first time I thought it was a fluke, the second time I knew for sure I had a creep on my hands and never went back. My own fault, I should have listened to my intuition when I made the call to just wait for her to be available!
Posted by Nmax (Mn) on 11/21/2013
I've read recently that many cases of M.S. would be cured with Vitamin D supplementation... that they are deficient... In fact doctor said many of us have a Vitamin D deficiency... another important one is Vit B-12 this can cause neurological symptoms... some peoples bodies just don't process it so you need a sublingual (melt under your tongue brand)... I'm taking 2000 mcg daily to get back on track... I felt like I was getting a neurological disease and I found out (thru my fingernails - if you are lacking white moons on your fingernails you may have B-12 def or hypothyroidism... Here are symptoms:
http://www.rightdiagnosis.com/v/vitamin_b12_deficiency/symptoms.htm#symptom_list
Spread the word...
Posted by Brian (Barrie, Ontario, Canada) on 02/09/2011
Scott from Texas is correct. H202 Hydrogen peroxide food grade is only oxygen, increased intake is absolutely harmless. (withing reason) I have done up to 15 drops at once 3 times a day ( always diluted in water). It also cleans out the bad bacteria in your digestive tract, which most practitioners agree is 80% of your immune system.
Posted by Stacy (MA) on 08/01/2021
Posted by noel (california) on 06/28/2023
yes, try to find the book: HYDROGEN PEROXIDE
Medical Miracle
by William Campbell Douglass, MD
around page 104 there are stories of people curing MS by hydrogen peroxide IV therapy. Perhaps intravenous Vitamin C would work as well since it turns into h2o2 inside the body. good luck!
Posted by Dina (Lake Simcoe) on 12/20/2020
How much Colostrum for MS sufferers?
Thx. :)
Posted by Dr. J (Bombay, Maharastra) on 03/16/2009
Silver is not a "heavy metal" wendy!!! Its up there with calcium and copper and "correctly made colloidal silver" does not and can not build up in the tissues, argyria which is caused from adding salt etc to silver making process and which causes this silver skin is reversible anyway and harmless. Your high level of sheavy metels were caused by other things such as diet, lifestyle, bad water and amalgum fillings etc. EDTA, cilantro and antioxidants can remove your heavy metals.
For those who are fearfull from this "confused" comment please read now:
http://www.argyria.info/
http://www.silvermedicine.org/argyria.html
Posted by CORAGA (Milwaukee, WI) on 09/26/2007
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I was diagnosed with MS in 2001 and it been a living nightmare. I did some research and I found Turmeric on the internet. I went to Outpost health store in Milwaukee. I am really shocked at my symptoms. They are not as bad as they were before. I am working out everyday and not having as many relapses as before. I feel better then every. I though a few months ago I was heading for a wheelchair. I take it with Organic Carrot Juice in the morning and occassionally I have it in some bottle water a few days a week. It works.
Posted by David (Poole, UK) on 09/03/2007
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Low Dose Naltrexone is being used by people with MS (and other conditions) to stop the progress of the disease. Regrettably it does not seem to work for absolutely everyone and does not give much if any improvement with existing symptoms. It does however give one a chance to try other possible solutions knowing you will not get worse as time goes on.
Posted by Barbara (Parkersburg, USA) on 01/26/2008
I read a
comment regarding the copaxone injections. Granted not every solution is for every person however, I was taking the daily copaxone shots and suffered at least twice a month, sometimes more often, of all over body pain and could not do anything that was close to my normal activity level. My suggestions are that only you know your body. Listen to it. I do feel that a more natural path is the way one should follow if they are looking for relief. Remember God didn't intend for us to live unaturally. FDA approved medicines are not always the best way to go and Doctors get paid wether you listen or not.
