Mold Toxicity and Chlorella: Once you no longer live or work in a moldy building, you will still have the neurotoxoins circulating in your body. The best way to remove them is to take a dose of chlorella (algae) 30 min before each meal, and the timing matters.
According to Paul Pitchford's 'healing with whole foods' the energy of Chorella is warming and doesn't cause or contribute to damp energetically speaking.
I'm on the colder side and don't find it cooling at all. I'm an acupuncturist and I've also suggested my clients who are on the energetically 'cold' side use it too and they have all found it helpful and not at all cooling.
(Saratoga Springs, NY)
I found healing with whole foods by Paul Pitchford the most amazing book of all time. Although he rely's on cooked food. If you're fighting any disease you need more of a diet like hippocrates health institutes diet. I have cancer and massive candida and I am addicted to carbs. When I eat 3 salads a day and drink wheatgrass juice twice daily along with green juices I see the tumors go down to nothing. Also I use massive amounts of barley grass juice. Also taheebo tea!!!! Is the greatest anti bacterial, anti microbal, anti cancer herb out there. There are thousands of enzymes that go to work in barleygrass juice. they kill the fungus. The only problem with this approach is there is a massive die off reaction. You will be sick for a week or so. Use a good probiotic seperate from taheebo tea because taheebo tea will kill the good bacteria. Also they sell bee farm bee propolis extract 1000. Propolis is nothing short of amazing. Silver edge sells a great colloidal silver maker for cheap (truly a life saver).
All chlorella is not the same, some are way more effective and powerful so make sure you buying organic and pure. Some brands from China have metal and toxins, which is just more burden on the body. Do your homework, because you do not want to end up sicker.
How much colloidal silver should I take for mold for mold in the lungs?
I am living in an apartment with toxic black MOLD.... waiting to MOVE....taking colloidal silver daily in EYES...nose... ears and ingesting daily. I have been having respiratory problems...is there anything else you can recommend I do besides the silver and staying out as MUCH as possible? I am troubled with muscle spasms and pain in my head and shoulders and neck and heart. I have been here for 9 months...not certain of when I can MOVE. Thanks!
(Flagler beach fl)
Dr.b.l. Mold is the enemy. Here is the information from Ted here on Earth Clinic I used to save us. This email is the basic. I recommend reading the whole chapter.
Beta Glucan 1000mg reduced in water 3x a day. Mushroom blend reiki shitake mataki 1000mg 3x a day. 10,000iu vitamin d3 in coconut oil in am. Selenium yeast 200mcg 1 to 2x a day. Basic get on your feet.
Buy bulk powder beta glucan or buy your supplements from Vitamins Because online. They are the most effective of all the brands and cost effective too. I have tried many brands. Not their b vitamins or vitamin d but NAC..for mucus and the others it is critical you get the most effective.
You are in a bad situation. Avoid bringing any items from old home to new. I say this because you are struggling already. Take this time to rent what you need. I was able to fix most of my situation because I had more time and was able to do this over time. But better to live with less. You will get well quicker.
Buy a $ 50 dollar ozone machine or 2. You can use it for so many things. Ozone water helps you feel better. I used my machines in hotels to "clean my rooms" before I dare stay in them. A very effective tool.
Read Bill Thompsons book Killing you Sweetly about Candida as it is the deadly cousin to mold.
(Fountain Inn, Sc)
Hello Dr. bl,
Re the mold issue and your use of CS. I use it too and in addition to your irrigation (mouth/eyes and ears), I also use a steamer inhaler to get the CS into lungs and from lungs a more direct root to heart and bloodstream. Also I use the CS with DMSO and apply equal parts as a poultice for 15 minutes applying to various parts of body...chest, sides, legs and especially to back of neck so it will get to brain. The above applications is what I use for a body wide infestation.
Consider an ozonator for killing mold in the rooms. You would probably not want to be in the room while it's working as too much ozone could irritate the lungs but it definitely should reduce the mold issue.
You can also nebulize the colloidal silver for lung treatments which would be very helpful.
In reply to Dr.b.l. (Oregon),
I have personally not had much luck with colloidal silver for respiratory issuses unless I used it through an ultrasonic humidifier/vaporizer, but that may just be my issue. When I have used it with the ultrasonic humidifier it has been great for my respiratory problems that I have had.
If you know where it is in your apartment and you can get to the area where it is living, have the apartment manager treat it professionally to remove it altogether for your safety.
Standard hydrogen peroxide 3% saturated with borax has worked for me in a sprayer when I had mold in a bathroom years ago. I sprayed it directly on the visible mold. I also tried vinegar and borax and it worked similarly for me, but your manager really needs to take care of the mold before your health suffers more than it already is!
I would urge you to look at borax for mold removal effective for the dwelling and for your lungs upon ingesting. I would expect severe detox symptoms because of your situation and so I would start very small. I have linked just one ec experience but there are many. https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/borax10.html
I had mold exposure a few years ago and a medical person recommended colloidal silver (10ppm). The problem cleared up in 2 days.
(Fountain Inn, Sc)
Hello Gwen from Canada,
I see you posted to "Bcnu" who posted a year ago, so may not see your question.
So I'll answer from my perspective in case Bcnu misses your post.
Bcnu said she/he took CS for two days and ended the mold infection. If me, I'd take three times daily two tablespoons per dose for a month (on empty stomach and away from mineral supplementation). But if symptoms are gone in two days...great. Stop after you are sure the infection is killed.
(Blue River, Oregon, Usa)
Yes, how did you take the Colloidal silver? In a mist in the lungs or spray in mouth or what ? I've been leaf blowing here in a very moldy fungus area of Oregon lots and lots of mold here and I disturb them up in the air and breathe them as I was using a backpack leaf blower and I believe my lungs have been infected with mold.
I sprayed my throat 3 times per day. The mold caused an intermittent catch in my throat which made me cough.
(El Dorado, Kansas)
Is anyone wondering what causes the 'ice pick' pain usually listed as a symptom of toxic mold exposure. It is mold injecting itself into your skin. If the scientist would take the lid off their specimen jars they'd learn that mold doesn't need a opening from a surgery or broken skin to enter thru. That stuff sliced thru skin and dives in.
It's true. One on my ice pick pains hurt so bad and I saw a black curly Q string sticking the spot of pain. I broke off when I tried to remove it. Two years later no doctor will help me and I can barely use my hand. I am having better luck with my fingertips on my other hand but I touched the wrong thing and The pain was worse than I can believe. I ran for a magnifying glass to see what was wrong and there were fine black short hairs stuck in my fingertips. They wisp away when I rub them but It felt like a million poisons needles in my skin.
That's only 2 stories from my past two years in the twilight zone. One more bit of info. is check your house after dark with a flashlight. I accidentally found my bedroom ceiling was thick with a cobweb like mold hanging 3 to 4 inches deep and covering the entire ceiling. I still can't believe what I saw when my flashlight lit it up in pastel colors fading into one another.
Two years massive migraines, vision loss and major loss of brain function and no idea I was sleeping under that massive colony. Honest I never saw even one hint there was anything on my ceiling. I'm afraid of lady bugs I sure wouldn't have ignored that.
Ck. your house at night with a flashlight. I just happened to walk into my bedroom one night with a lit flashlight and wow. Never knew it was there.
God help us all.
Mold doesn't just clear up in two days! You have to get blood work to make sure the Mold Spores are not in your blood! If Mold isn't eradicated from the body it will continue to grow and feed off your organs officially shutting down your organs and killing you. Colloidal Silver is great to use to kill the Mold Spores! To clean out my lungs and the nasal cavity with Colloidal Silver and a nubulizer machine and mask! Pure Frankincense essential oil is great for eradicating mold and healing leaky gut and curing digestive problems, 2-3 drops under the tongue.
Deny Air and Water
I'm so happy to find your site and know I'm not alone in my suffering of the past 10-15 years. During recovery from a past surgery, I was able to study more and found there were over 20,000 different mold types with no exact cure for them all. The World Health Organization says that mold health problems can only be cured by natural medicine methods. The many stories shared on this site will benefit so many sufferers.
There is the common recommendation of mold removal frequently using bleach related methods, but here's another fact. Mold is a plant. Plants will die without water or oxygen. Washing with bleach often kills the top of the plant, but not the root and it will grow back. Often repeated applications of bleach or some mold control sprays can go on for weeks or longer. If this "plant" could lose its water or air source, it has to die. In leaky basements, the mold grows on the concrete and wood. I tried sealing the moldy concrete floor with WD40. After two applications two weeks apart, the area has been mold free for years. Unfortunately the latest WD40 has changed its formula and no longer is effective.
BUT the idea works! The best substitute is Fluid Film. It's safe around food, etc., will not rot wood and has a pleasant smell. Simply clean off the mold, spray the area, scrub it lightly to work it into rough surfaces and re-apply. Touchup may be required in a few days. Because Fluid Film can be used as an automotive undercoating for rust, it sticks to vertical surfaces and seals from water exposure. With the roots sealed, the mold "plant" dies.
After posting this information on their website, the company sent me a huge thank you gift of promo goodies, and a local resort contacted me for more information.
Another suggestion along the same lines is aerosol auto paints to seal porous walls with surface mold. The paints are thin enough to seal rough surfaces, dry very quickly and are too smooth and hard for mold to grow on. I've also used engine oil on level cement surfaces. In my experience, I've never seen mold on old garage floors.
Hope this can be of help to those who cannot relocate.
(Cape Town, South Africa)
Hello Grant, I appreciated your posting on this matter and would like to discuss other possibilities of keeping moulds out of the house.
To all other sufferers I would suggest the following:
1/ identify the type of mould in your habitat (house, appartment, office, etc)
2/ inform yourself, try find as much information as possible about that precise mould: where it comes from, how does it develop, what does it need to thrive like humidity % in the room, heat, cold etc and also what it doesnt like, for example extreme heat or extreme cold
3/ Remove the mould out of your house... Not only treat it but remove it (like that woman from England who washed ALL the walls with borax not just the piece where mould was present). Keep your house clean of dust and dirt and allow fresh air into your house at all times. Keep an eye especially on your bathroom under the sink, under and behind the toilet under the bathtub, the showercubicle. In your kitchen under the sink and definitely the fridge, more accurately the sealing plastic... Moulds looove hiding in the ridge, same for the washing machines
As to which ingredient to use... I was just browsing the internet and stumbled on information about something called 'active oxygen' which seems to be related to peroxide and ammonia (check wikipedia 'active oxygen')
4/as to how remove it from your bodies: WHAT you use and HOW MUCH you use , it will depend on each INDIVIDUAL. Also here I'd suggest to first have the organs checked which have to process any type of medication you choose to use. The liver, the pancreas, spleen, heart, ... All these organs as well as the immune system have to work hard to keep your body running swiftly under normal circumstances so imagine how much harder they have to work when your body is compromised by some illness. In consequence probably the first good advice would be to avoid further toxins (such as alcohol, coffee, cigarettes, drugs, frying oils etc) in order to allow your organs to do their job properly which is to keep your bodies clean of toxins. Second, try going for a walk or a bicycle ride somewhere where you can breathe in pure clean air at least 1/2 hour every day.
In reference to the ammonia bath: ammonia at 3% is used in swimmingpools to keep the water free of moulds. So probably also good ingredient to clean your kitchens, bathrooms, washing machines, fridges and also windows and windowsills.
Good luck to y'all! I'm going back to my research on 'active oxygen'
For Mold Problems: It is imperative you get on a candida diet, accentuating alkaline foods (kills internal mold), and take high doses of magnesium oxide as well as soaking in Epsom Salts (another source of magnesium. Magnesium is essential to all body functions and mold crashes the immune system depleting the magnesium levels as the body fights the mold. Work toward excellent nutrition, supplementation, and detox. All are equally important. Leaving mold exposure is ideal, but not always an option. Fresh air as much as possible.
My symptoms of mold exposure are too many to list, and I don't want to scare anyone, but seizures, hallucinations, mood swings, rashes, chronic fatigue, hair loss, weight gain, fungus on body, yeast, hearing loss right side, tumors, moles, etc. It's been really tough detoxifying my body while in the house. I got much better, and I thought leaving was the answer, but I'm not where I would like to be. I developed MCS as a result of the mold toxicity.
Good bacteria in the body is the key if you can get past the detox... That is all the fermented foods that you can stand on a daily basis... Do the enemas and baths to help with detox. Try painting iodine on the body during the morning to help with detox as well, and eating various kinds of kelp. I cook with help in all my bone broths and stews... But again detox is horrible. I would be interested to hear who is still in their home, I'm considering going back and trying to clean up my home because RENTING is worse... You CANNOT control mold in rental units... You will GET WORSE! Plus, if you take your THINGS with you, you are TAKING THE PROBLEM WITH YOU... It gets in your belongings!
(Forest Park, Ohio)
Regarding FRESH JUICES, I am referring to blending FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, those will feed the body the NUTRITION that the MOLD HAS ROBBED US OF... Yes, CANDIDA, mold is a fungus, but you need MINERALS and you have to get it from fresh fruits and vegetables.
Also, you have to COLON CLEANSE and you have to TAKE A DIGESTIVE AID (the undigested proteins cause MCS). The digestive aid should be taken PRIOR to each meal. Try to find an ALL PLANT BASED digestive aid. The digestive aid will digest the mold and parasites that are feeding on the mold in the body... You may have to double your dosage of the digestive aid, I take two prior to each meal. My meals, again, consist of lots of plant based fruits and vegetables, especially GREEN LEAFY VEGETABLES because they are full of calcium. Lots of fatty protein based broths, soups and stews. Lots of bacon and egggs, hormone free because the HORMONES WILL FEED THE FUNGUS, and lots of coconut oil and olive oil because they are both ANTIBACTERIAL AND ANTIFUNGAL and they help to rebuild the body...
Good luck, we CAN HEAL, I'm much much better than I was... Trust me when I tell you that I was dying.
I have been leasing an 1890's model home for five years that is crawling with mold. Aspergillis, cladosporium, penicillium and surely black mold. I'm very sick, I feel like I'm dying. I have five children who are also sick. The landlord isn't doing anything to remediate and we are scrambling to get out as soon as possible. I've read everyone's comments here and I'm looking forward to treatments, any advice on what works best for children?
(New York, Ny)
Faith thanks so much for your help!!! I have also suffered from many of these scary symptoms - and some have resolved itself but still dealing w the rashes, fatigue, brain fog, etc. How long did it take for you to feel a difference or any improvements though?? I moved out of my moldy house and am now currently somewhere which I believe is very clean, we were VERY careful with our belongings and for the most part didn't take ANY furniture (if we did we thoroughly cleaned it with thieves oils) and same goes for our clothes. It's been two months now and I'm not feeling much better, but hoping to start on a diet like you suggested and am hoping that will help out as well. I also just started on something called cholestepure (the alternative to CSM that Dr. Richie Shoemaker uses) to help w/ the mold toxins. I'm nervous about doing the ammonia baths like many others have suggested because I don't know how safe they are but people claim that they're super effective - appreciate everyone's help though, and hoping that this will eventually pass so I can feel like a normal person again :(
(Forest Park, Ohio)
Baths, detox with epsom salts, baking soda, and hydrogen peroxide then alternate the baking soda with the acv. You also have to COLON CLEANSE the mold gets in the colon, do psyllium and bsm, one T. Psyllium and 1 tsp. Bsm. Do it regularly and sometimes substitue activated charcoal for the bsm. Also do GOOD BACTERIA, LOTS AND LOTS, bananas, homemade yogurt, homemade kefir, homemade kombucha, these helped me turn the corner... And prebiotics like oat bran, rice bran, HIGH FIBERS... AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF SEAWEED in your diet daily... It took a year before I was feeling well.... but all this is key to move the mold out of the body...
Hello, all your reading and diets are interesting. I thought I was alone in the world. We had to abandon our home and ALL our belongings in 2010 due to the presence of serpula lacrymans, a very rare mold (mushroom) with toxic spores. But we had been living with it, unknown, for several months. Needless to say, I am extremely ill since fall 2009. The experts found 5different types of mold in my blood, at very high levels. I have gained a lot of weight, severe skin eruptions, etc......... Too much health problems to name. BUT, the one thing I have trouble with since day one is being able to eat...... Anything with proteins.... I get very ill and cannot keep it down. I still crave some stuff and eat anyways but pay the price. I'm down to white rice, toast, oranges and a fewother things.
Our home was demolished and along with all our stuff, was buried in a contamination dump site. So now we are in a new home that we built from scratch with no help but the health side is not improving. Please let me know what I can do..... I would like to find myself again..... And not be this ill for good. I must mention that before all this, I was already disabled and have a very weak immune system so........ now, all the preexisting conditions have worsen also. Please help......
(Louisville, Ky, Usa)
Shatsi, check the E. C. page for Mold & Fungus here https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/mold.html and I posted some info on Grapefruitseed Extract here: "BHT SUBSTITUTE? UNAVAILABLE IN PAKISTAN"(sorry no hyperlink). As an opportunity to correct a big oversight, Oscar went into some detail on Grapefruitseed Extract and I hadn't read the entire post missing this until later as I spoke of GSE as if it hadn't been mentioned. But Oscar's theme was GSE as an anti-viral while mine was anti-fungal.
There are some great links on the Fungus & Mold page w/ one in particular a doctor using all natural products for the removal of the fungus from the body. I think her site is http://www.toxic-black-mold-syndrome.com/index.html. One nutrient in particular is Brown Seaweed Extract. Dr. Shoemaker prescribes Cholestramine® for removal. Both Dr's have websites and books in print that detail the problem of black mold.
Hope this helps and good luck. Please report results, update.
(Rustenburg, North West South Africa)
Hi Shatsi, If all else fails try IV vit c & if that is too expensive try liposomal vit c which is much cheaper & you can make it at home, on the net you can get info on how to make it. What I also do know is that vit c about the only thing that can kill mold in your body, but it is a problem to take high doses of vit c as it causes an upset stomach but with IV vit c you can tolerate doses of 100- 200 gr & with liposomal vit c 5 gr is equivalent to 50 gr of IV vit c. So try it you have nothing to lose.
(Hernando, Mississippi, Usa)
The best thing is Oxygen hydrogen Peroxide food grade it works. I also have been told the same thing- this is the reason I do not like Doctors and don't trust them if they give drugs it like they are throwing darts at the dart board at all the deferent drugs that the side effects are very harmful. hydrogen peroxide is natural it is in Honey the little bubbles you can see in the store shelves.
I juice cucumber and celery with a sweet red pepper. I can not have any fruit or the mold in my sinuses seems to grow.
i am still in my house. I just found and came to the realization that my rashes/bumps that won't heal, my cockatoos feather loss, and my dogs itching and breathing problems are due to mold. First step in confirming was I covered my ceiling vents with filters and in 2 nights I started healing on my face! My next step was get a mold test so I bought the 5 min kit and got a positive result. Now I need mold clean up and a new or clean evaporator coil. I am running a window unit and a portable unit at the moment and not running my central air until I get someone in to clean it up! Next step DETOX! Not just for me but my precious animals! I have 2 parrots 3 dogs and a cat. There is no way I could have found temp shelter for them and myself going through this because they need care and I am their person …… the one! I started cleaning my and the animals skin with sulfur soap and using essential oils (frankincense has anti fungal properties) also giving us all activated charcoal. I stopped the circulation of the mold and started cleaning the environment for some immediate relief. In some cases homeowners insurance will cover it minus the deductible. In my case I believe they will because the summer before last my AC unit was struck by lightning and covered on home owners insurance and because it was off for 2-3 weeks the coil had opportunity to grow mold as a result. So they are directly related, cause and affect. Let's hope my insurance people see it the same way as the AC guy! This has unknowingly been ongoing since then and my symptoms fall in line with this time frame. Hope my story so far helps and I will keep you posted.
Research diatomaceous earth for mold poisoning.. I am on it and feeling great.
MOLD RECOVERY PROTOCOL...
I suffered from mold poisoning and the problem is that the mold settles in the body so you have to detoxify it. The best method that I found was The Gut and Psychology Diet while also including coconut oil on a regular basis. As far as antifungals coconut oil is a great one. I also used olive leaf and organic apple cider vinegar. The ACV should be taken before each meal, a few tablespoons in about an ounce of warm water. Cooking in all of the healthy fats helps you to detoxify the fungus... And making the fermented foods also helps to restore the good bacteria. There is HOPE, the body can repair itself.
In addition to this, it is best to flush the liver every few weeks. If your symptoms worsen, do a Apple Cider Vinegar enema to flush out the toxins, detox baths, or you can also take activated charcoal with plenty of water. Repeat the enema until you get clear fluids, take KELP and other SEAWEEDS to replenish minerals that you are missing AND drink plenty of homemade juices before and after a flush, or plenty of fresh JUICY fruits to replace minerals. Also take unsulphured black strap molasses to replenish minerals as well.
Diet should be based on Weston A. Price and GAP, these foods will heal you and plenty of bone broth will heal. I get my meat through a coop, best bones out there.... The broths alone did amazing things for us!
M from Texas wrote about ailments possibly stemming from toxic mold. My young son and I are victims of toxic mold inhalation and exposure, so I have learned more about the subject than I ever wanted to know. The most important point I want to get to this person is, if you took things from that apartment, especially if mold was visible on them, you have just brought the problem with you. The mold is now growing in a new home, and you are still exposing yourself to it. My son and I had to leave everything behind and move from our home. Traditionally Western medical practioners do not even want to acknowledge the health problems associated with toxic mold; They have received no training for it in medical school, and there is pressure on them from numerous areas such as insurance companies, real estate management and developers, etc., to not acknowledge the affliction. I am treating my son with a number of natural remedies, although ACV hasn't been one of them, I intend to try it. But what I have found to be helpful is pure essential oils. Oregano is the best, but when mixed with Frankicense, and a special formulated blend of Clove, Cinnamon, Rosemary, Lemon, and Eucalytpus, the synergy of the Oregano is enhanced. I put these oils into a gelatin capsule and take them orally. I also get massages with oils over the spinal area which is where the fungi like to live, in the spinal fluid. These oils with the massage, called a Raindrop technique massage, will help drive the mold from your body. I do experience the mold ejecting from my body with skin bumps that spit out these nasty little white or brown crystal-like things, the size of a piece of salt or a little larger. They get easily infected, so it is important to keep the skin very clean, and to use Colloidial Silver or some other method the keep bacterial growth down. I am open for ideas to replace Colloidial Silver, because it is so very expensive. Any ideas?? Also, we now use a diffuser in our home which diffuses essential oils into the air we breathe. This has helped our conditions a lot, and it helps ensure that as molds are being tracked into our home, that we are killing them.
Just be sure that you are getting PURE ESSENTIAL OILS. They cannot be fragrance grade or be adulterated in any way. If anyone would like more information on where to get these oils, they can feel free to contact me at [email protected],net. Love your site!!!!!!!! Ask all to pray for us, and for all victims of toxic mold.
(Key West, Florida)
For Debbie with fungal mold problems: please do not try ACV as it contains mold.Vinegar has many health benefits and most people can fight off the amounts of mold found in apple variety, but you sound like you have plenty in your system. I am fighting many mold issues and parasites since the hurricanes (Still!). Please try the Borax! Use bottled white vinegar if you wish, which does not contain the trace common vitamins that ACV does nor the mold. I'm still trying to figure this stuff out and appreciate your tips, I'm excited about the VCO, have tried caprylic acid but the spoonfuls of unrefined coconut oil seem more effective! Good luck to you and your son, God/dess bless.
(New York, Ny)
How long will it take to detox from exposure to mycotoxins? I've recently vacated my mold-infested apartment and have started taking essential oils, exercising regularly, and eating a low sugar, anti-yeast diet. My main symptoms are tingling, shaky arms and hands, muscle cramps, extreme fatigue, and chronic sinus infections. Over the last week symptoms have lessened slightly. I hope it will keep improving. Also, I left my apartment as soon as the mold was discovered (it was behind a wall and as soon as the area was exposed my symptoms kicked-in full force). I grabbed some clothes and ran. Is it safe to go back for my bed spread and sheets? Can they be salvaged by a hot wash? I don't want this to follow me.
There is a little known G. P. Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker in Maryland on Chesapeake Bay who has been treating mold and other neurotoxin -exposed victims since the late 1990s! He runs several websites:
If you have one or more of these unexplainable symptoms, you may have been exposed to a biotoxin. Our research in biotoxins began almost 10 years ago, and during that time we have treated over 5, 000 patients with Biotoxin-related Illness. Our cutting-edge work has led to the development of an a brand new on-line screening test which can be completed in about 20 minutes. (Unfortunately, this test is NOT free. )
Since he's got several days' reading up on those sites, not including his several 300-500-page books, plus videos you can watch, maybe a snapshot of his work, his findings & the treatment protocol would be better first. It's CSM (cholestyramine, an Rx item):
The main first thing to do always is to get out of harm's way by vacating any known mold source. A 2nd clear warning given among all this info is any unwell person is to stay away from any "moldy" foods. This would include anything from small rot spots on fruits to blue cheese and even Apple Cider Vinegar.
Here is one site which mentions Shoemaker, and which claims some kind of peach tree extract works to pull out the mold neurotoxins:
Here's another one with what looks like a lot of real info, or a complicated protocol to follow:
As far as salvaging your bedding, I don't know if you also mean the bed, which until the place is thoroughly cleaned up and defogged for days with either MMS (chlorine dioxide) or ozone, means it'll be thoroughly tainted. To prevent a really long post here, there's got to be scores of pest removal/mold remediation companies either online or in the Yellow Pages. You could call them or e-mail and ask each how EXACTLY they gas a contaminated building once the moldy parts are removed and replaced. I believe they call it 'tenting', and it's similar to the way they gas out termites and cockroaches.
I tried Dr. Shoemaker's protocols with a Dr. trained by him. I got MUCH worse. I found that colonics, coffee enemas, getting a portable IR sauna and doing veggie smoothies has helped. Also, things that bind toxins in your stomach to help move them out, like bentonite clay. I tried the hi-pro, low carb diet and got MUCH worse. Both Dr.'s I'm seeing now said that's a bad idea. Proteins are harder on the body and slow down assimilation and detoxification. I'm better now, but still have MCS and can't eat a lot of things. Still, most days I can think!! I read that women are 4x more likely to get adverse reactions to toxins like mold than men because of lower testosterone. Hmmm. I got my testosterone tested because I'm in perimenopause. ZERO. No testosterone. So I'm going bio-identical. Hope tht helps. BTW, if you do a home sauna, cover it w/ towels and wash often as the mold will get in it.
I was exposed to hidden ( odorless, invisible) black mold for three years in newer house, Symptoms began with itchy skin, red dry eyes, progressed to dizziness, blurred vision, nausea, wheezing, heart palpitations , rash, brain fog, neurological problems, tremors, shortness of breath, weight loss totally disabled. Most . The a brilliant doctor, thought I had mycotoxin poisoning. He put me on Cholerstraymine four to five times a day, charged Zeo-lites, broken cell Chlorella, all of these were taken at different times of the day. Nutritional balancing, fungus free diet, and taking quality probiotics. Sauna daily and colonics help tremendously. Getting detox from black mold takes time so be patient. We finally discovered the mold and moved. I washed all clothing with ammonia in the washer ( I wore eye goggles and wore gloves when handling ammonia) I also rinsed clothes twice this kills mycotoxins in the clothes.
Apparently, Dr Shoemaker did write that many very effective methods were being used in other countries to treat black mold. If anyone knows of other methods please do write .
My doctor, an environmental illness and mold expert, is a great doctor! Mold allergy is serious can be fatal There are so many pathways in the body that are disrupted, and how the body reacts is shocking. A doctor of this caliber knew instantly how to deal with this mold/mycotoxins poisoning. For example I had a fired up parasympathetic nervous system caused heart palpitations, heart was beating so hard my body would shake, and I had tremors. I saw two cardiologist that gave me two different diagnosis. The underlying cause for my heart issue was mold poisoning.
It is best to move from mold house, and do not return even after remediation.( Believe me I know how hard it is to leave your home, but it so not worth it when you might die from mold exposure).Because your more likely will react, statistically that has been the case . Do not cross contaminate your new house with items from items from your old house.
Take several binding agents, because different binding agents bind to different types of mold! I took cholestyramine and few other binders. I did saunas, colonics, and several detoxifiers. I was also on specific kinds of IV's for releasing the mold toxins in the tissues, causing faster detoxification. Also injections into the ganglion centers was offered to reset the body and help the parasympathetic system.
The doctor explained to me once the house has mold you cannot get it out even after remediation. Imagine a grain of sand cut into 20 pieces how can you see that with the naked eye. If you breath one little piece in you will react.
Raj Patel, M.D.
California-based mold physician specializes in treating CIRS, Lyme and other tick-borne diseases as well as Autistic Spectrum Disorders (ASD). When possible, he uses a nutritional, rather than drug-based, approach to preventive medicine and treatment of illness.
(Laguna Woods, CA)
I went to Raj Patel in the early/mid 1990s after he bought my Doctor's holistic practice. At that time I was very very ill with massive chemical exposure, EBV, cytomegalovirus, HHV6, jaundice, hepatitis and list goes on. was on SSDI for over 6 years.
Maybe he's changed. He was of zero help to me. Minimized my symptoms. Was hardly what I would call wholistic at time. I lost my SSDI benefits because his letter did not correctly diagnose/describe my health issues.
I also went to Dr. Christine Greene before she switched from conventional medicine to becoming one of the most expensive functional medicine docs not accepting insurance.
I have the best functional medicine doc (Dr. Mary Raleigh) in Irvine, CA (S. CA). And one of the few who accepts original Medicare, knows how to navigate their system legitimately to get all sorts of wholistic solutions covered and cutting edge tests. Plus she is kind, compassionate, funny, and deeply cares about her patients.
Just my humble opinion from experience. Thx everyone great input!
This message is for the first post by Grant of Ontario. Did you take oregano oil as a tincture, pill or some other form? You mentioned you mixed it with Frankincense but I was wondering how and it what proportions. Thanks for clarifying.
(Flower Mound Tx)
We found mold in the house we just moved into 2 months ago and all of us have been having health problems.
I was researching for holistic ways to deal with mold and came across your post. What brand of essential oils do you recommend?
And what proportions of Oregano, Frankincense, Clove, Cinnamon, Rosemary, Lemon, and Eucalyptus do you use in your capsules?
What do you use in the diffuser?
Be sure to use the right diffuser when using oils for mold. Putting moisture in the air is not helping your mold problem, but encourages growth! You need a pro diffuser and pure essential oils that kill the mold along with treating the area and than removing the source professionally. I hope this helps.
(Ten Mile, Tn)
HI U Debee,,,,,,,,,, can you elaborate a little more on this subject. I use a diffuser and Lavender to relax me and help me to sleep. I bought my diffuser from Walmart. What is a pro diffuser? Also, what essential oils kill Black Mold?
I have posted that my DNA test now tells me that I have black mold. Right now I'm breathing Ozone 10 minutes a day bubbled through olive oil; drinking water that contains borax and grape seed extract; and taking the homeopathic drops from my integrative doctor . He also said to take a tbsp of diatomaceous earth a day.
As I tell all, follow my saga on the shady side of the mountain. I just accept the problems that life and old age brings. It's just another challenge and keeps me constantly researching and involved.
The poster I most admire on EC is my Ky neighbor Timh. He has lots of health issues, yet stays positive, and helps folks all over the world with his experienced counsel.
I try to do the same with my corny stories.
I read about non-standardized essential oregano oil being the best to keep the Synergy of all of the components intact. I read about the leaf of the oregano oil not being sufficent with the amount of constituents being unavailable is available and leaf and flower oil.
Where do I get a good unstandardized leaf AND flower oregano oil so that I can mix and spray in my home?
HI U OLE BIRDS DOIN, , , , , , , , ,
Got a wild hair. Ever heard that term? It's a Red Neck sayin when something wild and strange comes to mind. My young spouse has had the sniffles for awhile and I am coughing up oysters myself. Anyways, I go to Lowe's and buy a mold test kit to check our HVAC ducts. Bad is not the word. The petrie dish is spooky.
What to do? Research, yeah and I can address this problem two ways: Ozone or Citricidal. I have a Hi Dollar Ozone Generator, but I also know that ozone is flammable. So I opt out to address this problem with Grapefruit Seed Extract. The Tenn Mold people are experts at this, and I called them. Folks are so hard up these days that they are in a do-it-yourself mode. Thus, Tn Mold will sell you the product and you do the spraying. Guess what they use as a sprayer? Yep, a Theatre Fogging Machine. One used by Elvis and those folks. I've ordered all that stuff today.
When it comes in, I will remove the HVAC filters, turn on the fan and and spray the product into the intake. This should fog our whole house with mold killing mist.
Why are we in this condition? First , we live on a large lake where the humidity is maxed out. We just a bought credible dehumidifier and now have our home humidity under control, but the mold is already established.
The message here, is that regardless of the supplements and drugs we take, sometimes we have to change our environment to solve our health problem.
Few posters on this site recognize this. Yeah, maybe Ted, Bill, Dave and others.
Anyways, I hope I have planted a seed that sometimes you have to change your environment to get health relief.
YA'LL BEHAVE FOR A CHANGE.......
=====OLE ROBERT HENRY=======
Great sleuthing! Have you ever considered essential oils? They are amazing. Aches, pains, killing mold spores even! I enjoy reading your posts!
(Ten Mile , Tn.)
HI U KATHY, , , , , , , , , , , , , I do some, but when you are exposed constantly to toxins you have to remove them before you can address them. I think mold and EMF's are the silent killers of our modern life style. They get us and we don't have a clue.
As you know I'm a story teller and I am glad that I have at least one fan. We took our girls to Ontario in the 70's and they were astounded at the diverse culture you have. They were reared Rednecks as you would expect.
=======OLE ROBERT HENRY======
How are you Robert? I just made a concentration of Grapefruit Seed Extract. I put several drops in 11 ounce hair spray bottle and clean some black mold of my windows inside. I then sprayed the windows down with it and let it dry. I hope I have the concentration strong enough. I put quite a bit in for just 11 ounce of water.
I shook the bottle very well before cleaning. Do you think this will work for my mold and mildew problems? I also sprayed a small spot on my ceiling that looked like mold. I may check into the company you speak of, so I can do the air condition system.
Take care, Rebel
(Ten Mile , Tn.)
HI U REBEL, , , , , , , boy howdy, that's a really good moniker. I go by ROBERT HENRY because as a youth, when my mom got the ass at me, she called me by my double name. Now, I figure all have the ass at me so I use that as my pen name.
I found a web site that gives the formula for a patented solution of GSE for HVAC systems, and if I take the time then I can make this. My problem is that at 78 , I am sho nuff on the shady side of the mountain and don't have time to mess around. It's sheet or git off the pot. "Come clean me, Momma".
As you know GSE is a natural fungicide and we use it to preserve our garden veggies. The microbiologist immigrant that came up with this while working for the state of Fla trying to get their produce to market in good shape. It is quite an interesting story.
Reb, what I have read is that 90% of our sinus problems is due to mold one way or the other. I wrote this Mold Ditty because most on this site want to cure their symptoms and that is not a fix. You have to get after the root cause. You are on the right trail, but I am searching also. Sorry, I can't give you a solution.
======OLE ROBERT HENRY========
(Ten Mile, Tn.)
HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN, , , , , , , , , , , ,
Well, today we did the dirty trick. We fogged our HVAC ducts and the entire house really. Saved about $ 1200 by doing it ourselves.
As all are aware we have had respiratory problems and traced it to mold in our HVAC system. We hired a firm to clean our ducts and today we fogged using a GSE solution.
Now , we must clean our lungs , etc. To do that we will use hydrogen peroxide and glutathione via a nebulizer.
I look forward to the day when the EC site puts doctors back into the houses they lived in when I was a kid. In my day doctors made a living and that was all. Now, they make a killing and they are not the ones dying.
(Ten Mile, Tn.)
HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN, , , , , , , , , pay attention least this goes over your head. My latest saga has been mold in our HVAC system. This leaning experience has sent me to school and I hope you have learned also.
First, this far more complex than this trail I have taken you down. One of the ways we thought we were doing good is the ultra violet light that we installed 5 years ago. All critters can be killed by zapping them with the same frequency that they emit. Hulda Clark knew this and her zapper will kill your internal parasites. Our boy Timh, is well aware of this and posts on using this technique often. Mold spores can be killed by the frequency of a simple ultraviolet light. The problem is that the light deteriorates and becomes useless.
I have a GB4000 Frequency Generator that was first used by Dr Royal Rife in the 1930's and it will kill all body critters including cancer. That concludes my preamble.
Now to the meat of my story. I have health problems and I developed a plan to address the problem. One of these programs included doing 5 UBI treatments along with Alpha Liopic Acid IV's to get my liver is the best shape possible. After my experience with my HVAC mold , I talked numerous times with the UVL folks and thus became a skeptic about the UBI treatments I had just received. I then called the folks in Canada who sell the German made UBI machines.
Guess what , I was right on. They no longer sell the old models because the UV light deteriorates and the UBI treatments are useless. So , I probably have spent several months and treatments for naught. I have a call in to my Doctor to discuss this possibility. He is a great guy but sometimes you don't know what you don't know. Also , he is a Doctor so he has an ego.
As I told you good people , follow my saga and you will learn a thing or two. I thought I was going to be smart at 65, nope, set my new goal at 75, again nope, set my next goal at 85....... hey boys and girls , I may make that goal. I am finding that critical thinking is the way to go. Makes you a cynic and not lovable but you got to get up before daylight to sheet this ole sheeter.
My hope is that my doctor realizes his short comings and we have a do over. Otherwise, he is not the man I thought he was.
To be continued. =====ORH=====
(Ten Mile, Tn.)
HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN, , , , , , , , , , ,
Promise, , , , this is my last post on this subject. What have I learned in this trial?
One, know what your humidity is throughout the year. It is high in the spring, summer and fall and low in the winter. Have meters throughout your house.
Run a dehumidifier during the high humidity times.
Install a UVL SYSTEM in your duct system and change the bulb every two years.
Don't run your HVAC fan separate from the evaporator coil being on in the high humidity times.
My HVAC folks just left and I now have two UVL systems to kill mold. I am an extremist and I only want to address a problem one time. If two aspirins will cure my headache then 4 should do the job in half the time.
My health saga continues, but I hope my mold problems are behind me. I learned a lot in this endeavor and hope you have too.
Besides our food supply , our heath problems come from mold in our homes and EMF's. The EMF problem is not a deal, all you have to do is go barefooted as I did until I was a teen ager. It's a grounding thing. The Lord takes care of his critters because they do not wear shoes.
We have out-smarted ourselves.
Hi Robt Henry,
My engineer husband thinks you should look at this:
He read about it, then bought a switch that is a humistat for about $30. Someone had given him an old furnace fan that he hooked up to the piping of his shop vac system in the basement, that vents out to the garage. This takes the coldest, wettest air off the basement floor to the outside, and replaces it with drier, warmer air. This is the poor man's version, but our humidity has been falling since he installed this in the summer (although it has been cold and our heat is on now). He thinks running your A/C would keep your humidity down at a lower cost that running a dehumidifier.
Glad you have solved this problem and hope you will be on the way to a full recovery soon. With the ALA IV's, maybe consider some LDN (low dose naltrexone, goes hand in hand with the ALA - per Dr. Bert Burkson, Las Cruces, NM) for liver repair and many other benefits, including limiting cell proliferation in cancer. (During the 16-20 hours after it leaves the body)
Hi everyone, just want to know if selenium forte instead of selenium yeast, as well as chrome as amino acid chelate instead of chromium are worthy to use as substitutes in the battle againt mold exposure and hair loss?
Grapefruit Seed Extract
I have used GSE in the past for candida but I'm looking forward to using it for other things. I live where mold is a problem so I make a mixture of 20 drops GSE, 2 cups water, a few drops tea tree oil and a few drops lavender. I spray it on walls, furniture and it works great. I also put some in my dishwater-where I live there's no water lines to it's just rainwater in a big tank. The GSE helps with any bugs that may be there.
Hydrogen peroxide is definately a cheap remedy for some tough illnesses. Got Black Mold in my lungs from living in an apartment with unforseen mold under the carpet. Hot water heater blew in the 2nd month and the maintenance man (sent over by the slum lord) sucked the majority of the water out but installed 2 blowers under the carpet to dry it out. When I saw the mold I told him straight up, "That's going to blow Black Mold into the air and we could end up getting mold spores from breathing it" I'm sure he blew me off like he does all the other apartments he maintains because his lips weren't moving but he said to himself, "ugh, .... Another hypocondriac."
3 months later, I was extremely ill. Hadn't even considered black mold yet, due to on going esophogus problems for 15 years. The doctors said the only way to tell is to do the endoscopy at $750. I paid for the intial visit, was able to get on a $25. Month payment plan and when the time came to go at 6am, the receptionist wouldn't adhere to my agrreement due to the fact that the business department didn't come in until 9. I panic'd due to the fact that I felt a 2nd round of pneumonia approaching, and my lungs were only taking in maybe 20% of it's capacity. I did my research and found that the only way to survive a combo like this ( I have a fantastic nurse practioner that actually listens, and admits, she learns too) was to prepare myself. The first on-slaught of the pneumonia had to be covered by a single pill that costs $100. (something new?) I was sceptical. I don't trust pharmaceuticals. So, she gave me a $75. Discount coupon and I took it just in time, I guess, cuz I lived but still had the mold. It was growing and I was breathing less. My son-in-law was surfing the net for a cure for me. (Now that's a loving son-in-law), but, maybe he just wanted me out of his house!! Hahha He found a video of an old man showing the benefits of putting hydrogen peroxide in a nose sprayer and inhaling it 6 times down the hatch, at 6 times a day. We set my funderal plans aside (kids!!! ) and I recovered. That sweet son-in--law even helped me carry my bags to the car. That was 2 years ago. Still dealing with espophogus problems. My nurse practitioner treats me with respect and nearly reverence. I've been able to heal deadly diseases in my life, mine and others. Extraordinary. Hydrogen peroxide yes, .. for lots of illnesses.
Hydrogen Peroxide, Oil Pulling
2 years ago I was exposed to toxic mold in a building. I went to this building on a bi-weekly basis for 18 months and kept getting sicker and sicker. I was diagnosed with asthma (at a free clinic) and put on 2 meds. One for maintenance the other for emergency. My lungs became inflamed and I was using the inhaler constantly... I finally weaned myself off the inhalers and other meds. After doing research I did a cleanse with H2O2. It took me over 6 months to reach the full dose and then I reduced and am now maintaining at 22 drops per week. 3 months into the "detox" I also began oil pulling. My gums were receding and I had no energy. I bought 3 bottles of sunflower oil, within 2 weeks the sensitivity left my teeth and my gums began to reattach. I finally was regaining energy and I have not stopped either therapy, Now 2 times per week I use coconut oil, I love the taste and it seems to help my lungs stay clearer. I also inhale the H2O2 as shown on this site several times a day. My treatment started over 1 year ago. I refer many friends here and have even cured my dog of heartworms from your pet site suggestions. Thank you and please continue helping those of us who can't afford health insurance or doctors. It's nice to have alternatives to make ourselves.
(Quinte West, Canada)
(Formerly St Petersburg, Fl)
Gail, Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. We moved across the country and I neglected to get on this site for a period of time.
I bought a bottle of saline solution and emptied the contents. Then I refilled the bottle using a 1 drop of 35% food grade peroxide to 11 drops of distilled water ratio.
After filling the bottle I lean forward and inhale as I spray the mist in the back of my mouth. I do this several times and inhale deeply. Within minutes I cough up mucus then feel much better for the rest of the day.
In flu season I regularly tilt my head to one side and spray a few pumps of the solution in my ear. I then turn my head so it runs down inside. After the bubbling stops I drain onto a tissue and do the other side. Since doing this I have not had the flu or even a bad cold. My husband, a skeptic, now asks for me to do his ears at the first sign a cold or the flu.
Hope this helps, and again I apologize for taking so long to respond.
i have been exposed to mold. i heard that iodine is helpful. please locate your recommended treatment for mold exposure.
I am inhaling Lugol's iodine via nebulizer. Nothing definitive right now. I plan to go on a 100% Vegan diet for a few months and do the Lugol's inhalation. I think it can really work then. Will try to report back.
I feel nothing bad from this practice. Some say to inhale nascent iodine instead so I bought some. Nothing definitive yet.