As this disease is "supposedly harmless", I have spent a considerable time trying various treatments to try and cure various symptoms with mixed but mostly positive results. I think Ted is a genious, and I am eternally grateful to him, for the knowledge that he has shared through this terrific forum.
Unfotunately, I feel I have too many posts in this topic, and so I lose some credibility; here is the real deal on my current opinion on this disease, and why I have had so much trouble curing it.
I feel that this is a candida-related disease. I have seen so much yeast come from my mouth, that I can't perceive it being anything else. I have seen a white yeast and also a brown yeast. And I have coughed up some yeast as well (from my lungs)(both colors).
In the last 10-years, with my smoking, 4x I have sneezed up blood(like a bloody nose, kind of). I always used to blame the smoking until 1-year ago(4th time), I coughed up a black bug(crab-like)... and I haven't had blood or congestion since, inspite of still smoking. I believe the bug was eating the yeast in my lungs.
Swallowing Vinegar cured my blue warts(on my fingers)(gram-negative anerobic bacteria?).
Swallowing 1/8th teaspoon borax cured my twitchy eye(Blepharitis); however, leve some dark lines where people usually get wrinkles.(is it Tinea, who knows?)
Cured some age spots(Tinea) with Head & Shoulders Blue (Selenium Sulfide).
Cured some un-itchy jock-itch/eczema with the H&S Blue.
As Psoriasis and Eczema patients are almost always Selenium deficient, I have convinced myself that I am Selenium deficient.
Had a Herxheimer-effect with Garlic (this stuff is awesome; has selenium), but wife and family complained I was stinky(on 5 super-garlic pills/day).
Cured a brain-fog issue with a b-vitamin(thiamin-deficiency?).
I think as a big beer-drinker, you are what you eat, and 30% of my calories came from a yeast product(beer), and so I got a yeast problem.
Except for the two days of brain-fog, I can't really say I've felt very sick from 10-years of this disease.
The last symptom I had... at 13, I had no Gin-allergy. At 21, I had hives on my neck from Gin. Last week, I had 1-bump from Gin on my neck... and none the next day. Juniper Oil kills candida(see Psoriasis topic). Perhap a yeast-infected thyroid-gland.
Been mouth-washing with a dime-full of shampoo, 4x per day. I have a red tongue for the first time in 10-years. Been using a toungue scraper and taking 500 micrograms of Selenium Selinite as well, though. I am confident that Selenium deficiency will cure me. However, I feel bad that I have so many posts already in this thread. I will not post again for 6 months unless I'm cured, but will post in 6 months in case I'm not (for Historical Purposes). I will reply to questions though.
Today I felt like a million bucks. No smoking related congestion. I felt the best I've felt in 5-years. Doing all the bad stuff with no problems. However, I am not cured; so I have no right to give anybody advice yet. I have faith that Selenium deficiency is the root cause of this disease (Ted says MS is the same thing(White-Muscle Disease in animals)... I think he has this one right, and I was too slow to hear him. Impatience is frustrating though.
For historical purposes of symptoms, I have 7 cherry angioma spots that have popped up in the last year (never had them before), and fordyce spots(oil glands on the lips). These have never been associated with lichen planus or candida... but when I googled cherry angioma, I saw an accound saying someone got these when they had a yeast problem; they cured the yeast problem, and these didn't go away; so I wanted to second the report.
EC: Rich, if you'd like EC to remove any of your posts on this page, just let us know which ones...
Rich from Boca Raton:
Please advise whether you have cured you lichen planus and how?? I've had this for quite a few years now and it's frustrating! I can't believe there is no cure for this if it's so mild as doctors say! And no one can provide a straight forward reason as to how it comes about and a proper treatment aside from steroids.
To Reema, hope you have had some sucess with this, as I am at my limit with this!
Any feedback from anyone will help!
Baking Soda and Borax
Ive had this on my ankle now for about 8 years... Got real tired of this and started reading, .. first off its a inflammatory disease.
so for that im taking 3200 mg of ibuprofen 800 mg every 6 hours (anti inflammatory) a day which slows the imune response... Im also takeing vitimin A, D, and zinc.. And putting neosporin on it.. Also taking benadryl.. ibuprofen is the same as motrin but I think the biggest amount you can get is 200 mg...
after the first day swelling went down 95 percent, does not itch, and is drying up nice... also broke out on my hands which is almost gone now.
vitimin A helps with skin, you need vitimin d to absorb the zinc better, zinc also helps with skin repair.
dont do more then 50 mg of zinc a day
mine was so bad that it was oozing and bleeding on my ankle
Baking Soda and Borax
I was rather fascinated by your post and think it is fantastic news that you and your family got help.
I looked up the Mcdougall diet as and didn't really like the reviews I read. Especially for those suffering from hypoglycemia etc. The site called give it to me raw reviews diet and I suggest anyone who thinking about trying this diet read some of the reviews of this high carb, zero fat and little protein diet. Here in my country of origin low carb diets and high fat diets seem to becoming more and more popular for dealing with not only weightloss but diabetes, high blood pressure and the horrible pms. This low carb diet is reccomended by doctors here, can't imagine living life without those yummy avacados or even worse without that amazingly healthy cocconut oil!
Baking Soda and Borax
Llp from Houston,
I know your post is from 2011 but I was wondering if you could update us on the latest status for your son and if you are still following the diet?
I was diagnosed with LP and LPP 9 months back and am struggling with it. I am on cellcept and also following a strict vegetarian diet for the last few weeks. My LPP seems to be better - the patches are lighter pink and I dont see any new patches. MY LP also seems better though I do see very very small bumps or just some rough skin in places and do think it is a very mild form of LP.
If you saw such wonderful results I would seriously consider following the McDougall diet.
Thanks and hoping you will reply.
Alka from Coppell, TX
I'm 2 days into trying "Betadine/Providone" as a mouthwash for the "Oral Lichen Planus", aka Gum Disease of the cheeks and tongue. This is similar to the cure for white tongue in another topic, which uses Iodized Salt. The Salt may work eventually as well. I'm very encouraged by the preliminary results though. Iodine kills candida and many bacterias as well. The protocol here is 40 seconds, 3x per day for 10 days. It's used for drug resistant thrush in Aids patients... and may aid in Gum disease.
The FDA approved perscription drug for Gum disease is Chlorhexadine, which as I said, kills ringworm as well, and is antifungal. If this iodine solution doesn't work perhaps I'll try that, but I have good preliminary indications that this will work.
The post is so old, but I wondered what the result was of iodine mouthwash for Lichen Planus?
Baking Soda and Borax
Excellent Question about the Iodine. The truth is that I'm learning as I go. I don't know the answer, and am working on theoretical models, based on reading the reports on here, and then following up with my own research on why these cures seem to work, maybe 3 hours per day.
What I have noticed is that all of these substances on this website are anti-infectives. And in fact, they are all anti-fungals. No matter which anti-fungal I try, I get positive results.
With Garlic, I am taking a 1500 mg pill, which is really 3 mg of 500:1 concentrated oil. So it's basically 3mg of Fat-Soluble sulfer. I've read reports of a guy taking 80,000 mg (160 mg Sulfer?) of Garlic slowly built up over time, and curing rosacea. Nice. Perhaps a glucosamine Sulfate pill would get the job done instead... maybe. Note: Glucosamine HCL can't beat the placebo... so I don't think that the Glucosamine half does anything.
On the anti-oxident question, you're right that an Ascorbate or Acetate has both an anti-oxidant plus a pro-oxidant aspect to it. Vitamin C is very poor at killing fungus, but in ascorbate form, it can do something.
With the mega-dose of Ascorbate (which is also used in water treatment, btw), only so much will go in the blood... and the rest acts like toothpaste for the intestines. You can even brush your teeth with the stuff. Nice. Placed in milk, you can't taste it.
I'm thinking that the mouth condition is an early form of gum-disease, that may lead to "Chronic Mucosal Candidadis".
Apparently, Candida has a mechanism to break down lysine, which is a limiting amino acid necessary to produce collagen. So I've added 2400 mg of L-Lysine to promote faster healing.
I have also tried something new on Saturday with positive results. I tried to heal up my body as good as possible with all the vitamins and stuff listed above.
Then I gargled with a lot of colgate total for 10 minutes. I could see some fungally damaged skin and pockets of skin(common in gum disease) seep out of my gums and cheeks, and some white stuff that looked like fungal candida. This hurts, though.
Then two hours later, I tried it again. Then rinsed with diluted ACV(which also hurts).
What I think is that Sulfate is the best antifungal (Sulfur plus Oxygen), and that mixed with the H202(in the toothpaste as well), allows for deep tissue penetratation. Plus this toothpaste has a neutral ph plus an antibiotic.
Of course, after I did this, my mouth filled up with lots of skin-like white stuff, which I figure is your mouths natural-way of scabbing.
5-days later, it feels like I have a new mouth (perhaps I do). The toungue is light red(Yes!). The dark blue vericose-like veins under the tongue have practically vanished. The white lesions on the side of my mouth have improved somewhat as well. I believe that I have succeeded in healing faster than the candida can grow. I really wish I had bought some ph strips to test my saliva, though.
I have no doubt that I didn't kill it all in 1 shot, but perhaps I got 90 or 95% of it in 1 shot, and maybe if I repeat the process this weekend, I can get the rest of it... I'm giving my mouth a week to heal first, though.
But yeah, I've had a red-tounge that isn't turning white again for 5 straight days which is a record, so I'm pretty excited about the results (Note: I've had a white tongue for 10-years)(Never a yeast like taste in my mouth until a few months ago, though). I kind of wanted to wait a few more weeks to see if this is a long-term cure before posting, but I didn't want to leave your question hanging in wait.
In a gum disease topic here, I saw someone had some success with Turmeric. Besides the curcurminoids, Turmeric is high in Sulfur. Nice.
As for milk, it has a slightly acidic ph, but adding the ascorbate raises it. Milk has lactoferrin, Iodine, Sulfur, plus Lactose... if you drink milk and exercise, you can create lactic acid(which kills the yeast-form of candida), far quicker than acidophilus. Some people love the stuff, I haven't tried it, but I believe it's easier just exercising to create lactic acid and using the ACV cure(Acetate), plus the other stuff can kill this stuff in a couple of weeks, rather than waiting 6 months for the Acidophilus to work.
Baking Soda and Borax
Hello my name is Natia n I was diagnosed with this nasty sick looking disease as well lichen planus has went from my breast down to the bottom of my feet I didnt no what it was I was sooo scared to be seen. It started in july 2011 didnt c dermo til mid sept 2011 but a friend seen it n was in shocked so he said use chamomile loction and I did n it dried it out alot but wen I got to the dermo they looked at me n said omg. So dey did a biopsy and diagnosed me with l. P. And the gave me mertronidazole. And I took 500mg twice a day for 30days n it was gone but the marks was there n started to fade. And its all over my body I dont think a man wants to look at me n I'm 30yrs old single with two sons.. So any way june 2012 its back- its on my feet in im jus praying to god that I dont suffer like last yr cus it messes with my mental smh so now I'm back on the mertro pills again and tryna change my diet cus from what I'm reading I c def no suger. Well I also need support n a cure so we need ppl to do more research on this n its prob one small thing that can kill this disease.. Well if we keep praying hard enough god will hear our crys.. Anyone can help me plz call I'm desperate at this point 518-271-1347 thx natia shim:(
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To Natia, I have LP as well. Mine are the size of quarters and they are all over my body except for my face. I'm 48 yrs old can't wear shorts or dresses anymore. When I do wear short sleeve shirts people stare at me. I know that my skin is ugly but I am a VERY BEAUTIFUL PERSON IN THE INSIDE. I know that it's hard to look at sometimes but don't give up OK. If you ever need to talk to someone email me at bigmo2799 (at) yahoo (dot)com. Remember, you are not alone we will get through this!! KEEP YOUR HEAD UP HIGH!
It is the end of the holiday season, and lichen planus has broken out on my trunk. I hadn't been bothered with it lately anywhere except my gums... Until eating extra carbs throughout the holidays. I didn't think about the connection until reading these posts. I am so glad that I found EarthClinic!
Baking Soda and Borax
Hmm... then again Pallagra or black tongue has a white tongue sometimes. Could be a Vitamin B defficiency or intestinal parasites causing the problem.
Baking Soda and Borax
Good information I have been using Niacin time release 250 mg at bed time it is making me feel better this is true. I had to ignore the flushing side effect.
Drink 1 full tsp baking soda in a glass of water to take away the itch of Lichen Planus. Also when extremly itchy apply ice under a cloth, also I have tried Mr Clean Wipes with Antibacterial and they worked really well. Also just baking soda and water paste applied on the lessions and let dry against skin. One more is, I have applied the little yellow container of Carmex lip balm for cold sores to lessions and it works too. For my mouth I use Oracort Dental Paste that you dab not rub as it turns grandular if you rub it. You only need a ml size of it.
Eliminate Vitamin D
I have suffered with Lichen planus since I was 10 years old. I once had a severe outbreak that lasted almost 4 years. This included oral lesions and lesions on my legs, feet, ankles, arms, back, neck, scalp, and vaginal lesions. After unsuccessful topical cortisone treatment, the doctor placed me on prednisone. Because prednisone depletes Vitamin D stores, I was told to take a very large amount of Vitamin D supplements. I started the prednisone, but did not start the Vitamin D supplements for a couple weeks. I noticed a drastic improvement in my lichen planus. They began to shrink in size, and the itch began to fade. However, once I started my vitamin D supplement, I flared back up. Thats when I put 2 and 2 together. I told my doctor, and he dismissed it. I would not take his word for fact though since I was also told that lichen planus is not genetic...my father and his sister both suffer with lichen planus. I followed my gut and cut vitamin D completely out of my diet for a while. milk, eggs, fortified cereals, fish, less sunlight, etc. My lichen planus went away. My father did the diet with me, and his went away as well. Once they went away, I took, I ate normal again, and whenever I notice old scars turning pink and starting to itch, I watch my Vitamin D for a couple of weeks. I recently had another outbreak, and I think it is due to the fact that I have had 2 back to back pregnancies and have been on prenatal vitamins for 2 years, which have a significant amount of vitamin D. I think its finally caught up with me, so I started the diet that I did ten years ago once again, I have already noticed I am getting better. My father is currently getting another outbreak because he was supplementing his diet with Fish Oil, which has large amounts of vitamin D. Since he has cut it out of his diet again, he is also improving.
This is the strangest logic I've heard yet... You have no idea what is causing your malady, why would you toy with your calcium homeostasis? Has it occured to you that the waxing and waning of your disease is just that... Part of the natural course of your disease?
Just because prednisone can alter your level of vitamin D doesn't mean it did in your case and it certainly doesn't mean that the prednisone had no effect on your disease. In fact, Vitamin D is a critical component in dampening the immune response to your mucocutaneous lesions(lichen planus).
Stick with your doc, he knows best.
I have a bad flair up of Oral Lichen Planus. Have been rinsing mouth with Fluocininide Gel 60 gm 0.05% sol'n once every 2 days per my doctor's advice, but mouth and tongue are very raw.
You guys keep referring to Ted and his great advice - where do I find Ted or his advise? Also can each of you be more specific regards solutions that work- i e do you drink these solutions or just rinse with them?
EC: Hi Gladys,
Ted is a popular contributor from Bangkok who regularly posts on Earth Clinic. You can find his remedies in the table of contents menu (if he posted any) under "Ted's Remedies" or on any Q&A section (also accessible on the menu).
Hi Gladys, I do not really know much of this ailment but I have successfully treated mouth sores, skin rashes etc with raw honey which is available in abundance in the US. Just take a mouthfull and with your tongue soil the mouth cavity and try to leave it in your mouth for as long as possible. Try this as many times as you wish and find it necessary. If, however, you are diabetic, just as a precaution, you might want to spit out the honey after having left it in your mouth for as long as you could. Hope it works - raw honey is a miracle product.
Vitamin K, Vitamin D, Baking Soda and Borax
Hello Doug, Rawy, Gloria,
I also was diagnosed with Neurodermatitis which another term for Lichen Planus thru a skin biopsy. The Dermatologist now says I have Eczema and to live with it. I can not stop scratching it's unbearable and I feel like my skin is crawling and recently I would feel like I was getting bit. I started following Ted's recommendations. Raw apple cider vinegar 2 tbls with 1/8 to 1/2 tsp. of baking soda with a little water. Try to do this twice a day. I also have been taking 1/8 Borax (20 Mule Team) NOT BORIC ACID very important in 1 liter of distilled water. Drink thru out the day and when finished continue with good drinking water. This kills any "nanoinsects" I tried the methylene blue also read about this on this site! I have had this condition for at least six years. And am very anxious for it to be gone. Most of my Doctors have said it was caused by stress. Not giving me much hope and thank goodness I found this site. This is the first time in years that I feel like my skin is getting better. I feel like I have three different skin conditions going on. Yes I have eczema, but there are also patches of tiny bumps like a hives rash. The last is these red painful bumps that sometimes turn into pimples. If I don't scratch they go away. I may have parasites and this is causing the third condition. I have also started a candida free diet. Body Ecology is a good place to start. Also recommended is a thing called the zapper.Google it. Let me clarify Do the borax 4 days on 3 days off or every other day. Methylene blue I do eveyday and apply to skin this is a .01% solution with Vitamin C also.read about this!. Apple Cider Vinegar I try to do everyday!!! This has really helped! I also tried applying it to my skin. Burns and then helps with the itch. Another thing to help with itch is a high dose of Vitamin C (asorbic Acid!!!! only)5000 mg to 10,000 mg a day. I hope this helps Read all the Eczema posts! and Methylene blue. I'm also trying Tumeric for the red scars to heal! I'm also a user of food grade Hydrogen Peroxide but have not been using it during these methods but plan to go back to it soon!
I know your suffering and hope this helps!
Vitamin K, Vitamin D, Baking Soda and Borax
I got lichen planus 8 months ago. Nothing helped until the doctor prescribed Clobex ( Clobetasol Propionate). The suggestion was to use this spray two times a day for two weeks. I only had to do this procedure for three days before the rash went away. I strongly recommend this medicine even though it is very costly. My doctor gave me a coupon which enabled me to only have to pay $140.00. I suggest if you have this problem to use this product as it is well worth the cost. Good luck!
Taking LDN has put my LP into remission after two years of trying numerous dietary changes.
Black Seed Oil
Do you drink the black seed oil and coconut/Vitamin E oil for LP on mucous membranes or do you have it on your external skin and rub it on? Thank you.
Hi, how do you get your calcium intake if you have cut down milk?
Take calcium tablets if u cant have dairy
Can Colloidal silver be used right on LP? How much do you drink of it for Lichen Planus?
Claudine, that is great to hear about your results! One question- when you say you take a shot of it, what amount would that be?
Can you please tell me which brand you are using? Thanks!!!
I had a flu shot. Was taken off a two yr stint with Prednisone. I went into fever, chills, nausea, my skin eruptions. I actually have just started the Pure Aloe. I am noticing less inflammation.
Hi...please can you tell me is this 100% pure aloe Vera juice that you've been drinking?
Can u tell me the type of aloe juice u use? And when u say a shot. How much is it. I have suffered from Lichen Planus since 2012. I have tried every vitamin regimen possible natural oils and creams to use, as well as numerous cortisone creams. Things had settled down to a manageable time until 2 months ago when I became over worked, stressed and a huge flare up happened over my entire chest, neck and under arm area. A new dermatologist is treating me with prednisone but it gives almost no relief. I wake up at 2:30 /3 am every day with insane itching. So I look EXTREMELY forward and hopeful that this may work. Any other ideas u have would b most welcome as anything may help my Bdy get sleep and relief. Thanks so much. Heading to buy some type of aloe today.
Cheryl, try coconut oil too. Spread thinly.
I see this conversation quite a while ago but I just found it looking for natural remedies.. this is what I found: Lily of the Desert. I don't know if that was the kind she used but it's a brown bottle and pure juice like she described and very inexpensive.
Could you please post a link to the product you purchased off of amazon.
I believe I am currently experiencing OLP and it's my first time ever. Thankfully it's not too severe, just had horrible dry mouth and burning. Doctor recommend Nystatin then moved to “Magic Mouthwash”, and they've helped, but I want to take care of this once and for all. Please do you feel like the products you got off of amazon will help.
How long ago did you have it for? Are you still taking Monolaurin? I started taking it after seeing your post, I have it all over my body, I am afraid to use steroids ointments due to flare ups . Have your LP come back? How long have you been free from LP? Are you atill taking Monolaurin? Please help, thank you
What is the name of the homeopathic expensive gel you bought? Frustrated here.
Is ur lichen planus completely cured?
Salt Water Baths
Sophie, thanks. I am going to try this. I too have this "lovely condition" and believe you heal from within. ( I refuse to use steroids) It is nice to hear I am not alone. Sad we have it, but comforting to be able to share with others. I am using TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) herbs and am a reflexologist, vitamins and lots of water daily . I am menopausal and working on that :)
Thanks again, Gale
Salt Water Baths
I have had lichen planus for over 4 yrs. I have gone to 3 different dermatologists, biopsies have been taken to confirm, steroid creams given, etc., & to no avail NO CURE. What types of salt water baths? Should I use Epsom salt or can you inform me what kind of salt. The honey would not be good for me because I have diabetes..Pls any suggestion to help would be much appreciated..Thank You!!
Salt Water Baths
Epsom salt would be the easiest thing to start with. You can buy Dead Sea salt on line. Look for a brand with good reviews.
Salt Water Baths
I did this and it got worse for me. I'm in distress and I don't know what to do
Salt Water Baths
I have been recently diagnose with Lichen Planus and I am very sad. I am using aloe Vera gel on body, taking Monolaurin supplements, taking Dead Sea salt bath, using Triamcinolone and Tacrolimus ointment ( not too often though, mayb once a day ) . The dr recommended PUVA light, and I am have not done it but I would like to get a feedback. I don't know what to do, the scars are very ugly . It started on the sole of my foot and it has been spreading on my body. I am very scared and pray to the Lord to heal me. I will appreciate any advise. I purchased Dead Sea Mud and I hope it can help. I just ordered it.
I have had lichen planus for about 7 months now. I had a biopsy confirming the diagnosis. It has been very uncomfortable, and has caused my skin to become raw in some areas. I have tried numerous steroid creams as well as prednisone treatments without much relief. Finally, I tried going to the tanning bed a couple of times, and it is finally cleaing up miraculously fast. I know light therapy is one of the treatments used, but my dermatologist hasn't even talked about it yet. My skin condition was to the point of being debilitating.
Best of Wishes, Joe
I know this is a old post but I hope you can reply. I have been battling lichens planus for 4 months and like you tried numerous steroid creams and prednisone with no relief. I had to stop working due to my hands and feet becoming so raw and cracked and peeling that I couldn't wear shoes or use my hands. I, too, starting going to the tanning bed last week and it did seem to be getting better but then flared up again. How often and for how long did you go to the tanning bed until you got relief? Do you know what caused yours?
Hi, I am suffering from LP. It's all over my body, scalp and now oral, can u please suggest me how to use sulphur for oral lichen planus? I am so desperate by this LP. Please do inform me if there is any other remedy available easily in village side
I can tell you what has worked in oral LP of the mouth for several of us. It is probiotics that contain the BLIS K12 and BLIS M18 strains of probiotics. After brushing your teeth at night before bed, dissolve one tablet or lozenge in your mouth and don't drink any water for at least a half hour, longer if possible. I successfully used Jarrow brand lozenges, but they seem to be difficult to buy lately, so I switched to Carotec brand from Naples, Florida. These help heal the mouth but do not extend elsewhere in the body, unfortunately. One man found some healing by using 1 teaspoon of Black seed Oil daily. If you look under the ailments tab at the top of the page, Lichen Planus, you can see some suggestions from Ted and Bill that may be helpful for the LP on your skin. Best wishes.
Guys, It's diet. I tried lots lots of things. The itching stopped and inflammation reduced great when I stopped eating dairy, wheat gluten, beans, nuts, eggs. Black pepper. Awesome! Try it b
I have lichen planus and lichen sclerosis of my penis starting in 2013. I have found that a prescription salve works as long as you continue to use it. The salve is Alcometasone Dipropionate Cream 0.05%. When I stop using it after it heals up it flares up again. I don't have it anywhere else that I am aware of.
Frank, how long did your penis lesions stay? And did they ever go away? I've had mine for over a year on and off :(
Thank u soooo mch, but is it available in Pakistan? Now it's spreading over my lips and so irrotating.
I am so sorry to hear about the LP. I looked at the Carotec site and they do not ship to Pakistan. I found one site that ships worldwide but it looks very expensive:
The Jarrow lozenges were the best price, but I can't find any for sale now.
Maybe if you researched BLIS K12 and BLIS M18 you could find a store in Pakistan? I use the kind that contains both ingredients in one lozenge.
I am sorry that I don't know of an inexpensive place to buy these that ships to Pakistan. I will continue to search for you and will post if I find anything. Take care.
Oral Lichen Planus Treatment
Dear Ma'am/ Sir,
My name is Atira from Indonesia. I've been diagnosed for Oral Lichen planus for 4 years now. My OM Doctor prescibes me to use Klorderma and Solcoceryl (ointment). I use Klorderma twice a day and the next day I will use Solcoceryl twice a day also. I would like to ask you whether there are any treatment for this OLP using baking soda or other herbs. My tongue condition now is red at the side of my tongue and it's very painful if touched to the teeth or food. Right now I only use my left side of the mouth to eat. Last April, I had my 2nd biopsy and Thank God everything is clear, only the red and soreness left. Thank you so much for your help. I hope that you could help me with my problems.
I have oral LP, also, and after trying many things for over 5 years, I have found something that has cleared the part of my mouth that I had biopsied to confirm the LP. This has been confirmed by my dentist. I take one of these after I have brushed and flossed before bed. Don't drink any water for at least half an hour or more after dissolving it in your mouth.
This is the only thing that has worked for me to heal my gum. My mouth still burns some in the morning, but no more lesions. Best wishes!
Oral Lichen Planus Treatment
This is a question for Rsw from Uniontown, Oh, or anyone else who may know.
You posted the other day and said that you had tried many things for OLP. I'm curious to know if you've ever tried purslane. I saw some studies that indicate it may help, but it's rather pricey to order. I'm hoping for some feedback before spending that much money.
I'd really like to try those lozenges that you mentioned, but I can't find a source for them here in Canada. I guess I'll have to keep looking.
Oral Lichen Planus Treatment
Yes, I have tried purslane. I bought it in dried powder form. I took it for a short time without any change, then read that it is very high in oxalates which is not recommended for LP, so I stopped taking it in favor of a low oxalate diet. Although some have benefited by this diet, I found no noticable change after many months. The oral probiotics with the BLIS ingredients worked for my mouth, and another man who also has LP tried it and it worked for him in his mouth, also. Systemically, we are both still trying to figure this out. Currently taking LDN ( this is not effective but I believe it is so good for the immune system that I continue taking it), enhanced absorption curcumin, a special CoQ 10 since I believe this may have been statin induced, yoga, low dose benedryl (just started this today) and a high anti-oxident cream. If you find anything effective, please post. I continue to read and research every day. Best wishes.
Oral Lichen Planus Treatment
I'm so glad I asked for feedback on the purslane before buying it. Thanks!
I've had a patch of OLP on my gums for many years, which never caused me any trouble. In fact, I wouldn't even have known it was there, except every time I went to the dentist, they asked if it was bothering me.
But in the last few months it has slowly crept up on me. About two weeks ago, it got really awful all of a sudden. My lips/gums/cheeks/lips were burning and tingling, and a white patch under my tongue was downright painful. I happened to have had a dental cleaning scheduled then, and they confirmed it was OLP.
Of course, they could not offer me much in the way of treatment, but they did give me a sample of "moisturizing" toothpaste and mouthwash. (brand name starts with B) I also bought some toothpaste that does not contain sodium lauryl sulphate, and I quit oil pulling (EVCO) since my mouth was just so irritated.
A week later, I am considerably better. Of course, there is no way of knowing which, if any, of the things I changed had any impact upon the state of my mouth. And the white patches are still there, of course. And...I have issues with LP on other parts of my body as well, so I'm most interested in this as a systemic issue. Might this be related to the Perioral Dermatitis that I battled at this time last year? I have to think that's a possiblity.
Thanks for your information.
Help. I have constant vaginal LP flare ups. I have been washing with various vinegar water but it's bad again. What do I do.
Thanks, I have ordered the same and will update after a month.
Georgina can you please give me comfrey root ointment recipe for lichen planus thanks
Could you please elaborate on the dose and kind of olive leaf you are suggesting? I have tried olive leaf capsules and didn't notice any improvement in LP. I only took a small dose and would be interested in hearing how much, how often and what kind of olive leaf you used. Are you completely cured or is it temporary relief? Thanks!
Would you mind sharing where specifically you order the olive leaf from? I'm looking for a good source. Thank you :)
Hello, olive leaf In itself is completely safe to use. Myself I buy a olive leaf extract in tincture form. You can use it straight but I recommend mixing it 50/50 with cold pressed olive oil (organic) it's help with any skin disorder or viral infection.
Hi, I use olive leaf for about two months now and the salesman in the healthfood store said that olive leaf shouldn't be used for more than a few months at a time..He said since it's an herb it can take out good bacteria in the gut.. I also use probiotics.. Is this true? I use it to help lower my blood pressure. I also use a few other things.. Thank You
Marie: The longest lived animal in the world spends all day every day eating marine phytoplankton. Scientists asked centenarians in China what they ate and they said they drank several cups of jiaogulan every day. Indians living on an island in the Caribbean drink 6 cups of cocoa every day. A 54 year old Tarahumara had the best time in a 100 mile race at an elevation of 10,000ft. A year later some runners, including a man who won a 125 mile race in death valley during the summer, went to the copper canyons of northern Mexico. They raced 50 miles over rough terrain. The indian won. Every day all his life he ate corn and beans. A master herbalist in Arizona takes he sho wu, hu zhang, and jiaogulan every day. He is 70 years old. When he is not working in his herbal business he is working on his ranch with his beloved wife. I am not sure because many herbalists say cells develop tolerance and that they should be cycled, food too.
I hope u have found a solution to your yeast issue by now. In case you haven't, I would suggest first a mild colon cleanse, probiotics, eliminating all starchy carbs, fermented foods and fungus foods like mushrooms. Focus on greens and lean protein. Try taking krill oil instead of fish oil and try internal cleanses for yeast and fungus. It takes 3-12 months to get rid of yeast. Good luck.
My wife has LP for for few months now. Her skin ( the bumps ) has decreased alot after using TURMERIC POWDER ( the one used in Indian cooking masalas ) during bath every time. My self I have learned abour SUJOK THERAPY, since today, I have started 10 mins of YELLOW LIGHT ( I am a photographer too so I am using my stuidio light with YELLOW FILTER ) to beam directly on the front palm 5 mins, and back palm 5 mins. Before she goes to sleep, I am trying COLOUR THERAPY.... lets pray it makes her well soon.
Better But With Side Effects
I've had Oral and Vaginal LP for the past 9 years. In the begining it use to come and go and I would use Clotbetisol until it gave me a mouth full of thrush and then use Difulcan to get ride the thrush. Eventually, the oral LP worsed and no longer went away. I've lived the past 6 years with a WHITE tongue and mouth and the incredibly uncomfortable Valigal symptoms. It eventually escallated to my stomach and I've developed additional autoimmune issues, mostly food allergies, a thyroid issue, and my system is over come with Chronic Candididis. Everything upsets my mouth and stomach now and I eat a "very" limited diet. Although I'm very healthy, my diet is VERY restrictive.
2 years ago I was seen at an LP Special Study at UCSF, under went patch test, biopsies, numerous blood tests, swab tests, and monthly appointments and was given Placquinel which I have been on since... 2 years now. After a year on it my eyes started weakening and I was told that this might happen.
April brought about some stress for me and triggered a massive upheavel for my LP both types.
In desperation, I searched the internet to find this fabulously informative website. I immediately started a Borax treatment and honestly within hours saw a huge difference in my mouth! For the 2nd and 3rd days I experienced yeast "die off" as a raging sore throat, I added Asorbic C, and made it thru the brainfog, headaches, and muscle fatigue. However now I'm experiencing bloody nasal junk... It this part of the cleansing?
How long should I remain on the treatment? Are there any reactions that I need to be aware of or watch out for?
The treatment has literally blown me away as today is my 7th day and my mouth is a beautiful pink color my other areas feel much better and I look forward with exultation to reading more about what other people are experiencing and getting feedback.
Is there an area for Dr. Tom's treatments?
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I, too, have Lichen Planus in my mouth and also systemically. I have been taking Boron at 3 mg./day with no change. I also take LDN and have started the low Oxalate diet, along with many supplements, but no change. Are you taking the 1/8 t. 20 Mule Team Borax in 1 liter of water per day? Is there anything besides the Vitamin C you are taking? I would love to get rid of this but haven't found much that makes a difference. Thanks for posting and please update if you can.
I have used garlic gel capsules with good success in clearing up a yeast infection. 2 capsules a day until yeast infection clears up.
PLEASE someone send me the exact measurements for the Apple Cider Vinegar and borax. why aren't they on here? I am interested in trying it but I cannot without more information. Thank you!
I have been diagnosed with Lichen Planus 3-4 months back. Have been on steroids since then but of no help. Now I'm taking homeopathic treatment. Initially it noticed a very good result but now after seeing new lesions again. Just wondering if I can use borax. Please let me know how to use and the quantity.
It is not that easy to treat this condition by just taking the steroids, but unfortunately that is the line of action in the western medicine.
You will have to follow three prong strategy, control of stress, diet and external application. You have asked about the use of Borax, make a concentrated solution of Borax with water and apply it two to three times a day on the affected area, keep it for an hour or so and then can wash it. Also try to alkalize the body with sodium bi carbonate, apple cider vinegar etc. You will get good results. Good luck
Can someone tell me exactly how I should use the borax. Was it a paste that he/she applied, or do you drink it and at what strength. Thank you.
I am so relieved to know that I am not by myself on dealing with LP. My struggle with LP has been going on for 6 months now and the things I've tried a few to mention like oatmeal baths, glycerin soap, shea butter, and many other things has not worked. I am dealing with lesions on a mass amount of my body especially my buttocks, calfskin and thighs. Do you think the Borax and anything else mentioned may help me?
I've used vinegar for yeast. Seems to work good for me
I am suffering from skin LP from past 7-8 years with no luck with steriodal and cartisone creams. On stopping the steriodal medication(oral), I have been hit by LP more badly, so now I am trying out on the natural remedies like aloe vera. Can you please suggest any other home remedies? if you are aware other than the Borax application to the lesion.
Yes to borax for candida and other fungi such as athletes foot. Please read "the borax conspiracy" online. Good recipe for a solution concentrate of borax. I've been taking the equivalent of 30 mgs daily. Candida gone, bones rebuilding (Xray proof), hoping to eliminate mercury and fluorine toxicities but need to confirm that w hair analysis. It's magical stuff and perfectly safe.
Dietary Changes, Sage, Aloe
Hi Milli, I have oral lichen planus for close to a year now and just like your friend, I hate those steroids and yucky creams that don't work. Like your advice altho I know is going to be very difficult to follow but will definitely try my very best and feedback to you. Thanks and God Bless
I have been itching for months now from Lichen Planus and tried many of your hints which all work for a short time. However I have discovered something that seems to work better. This hint came from a Nurse Practitioner in a Dermatology office.
When using steroids ( I have cleobesterol which didn't seem to help much) apply the cream and then on top put a barrier! This can be something like a product with silicone or glycerine ( silicone glove, others) or just plain glycerine. This helps the steroid stay and do its work. I felt the itch much relieved after 2 days of doing this. Give it a try. Hope it helps.
HI first get rid of the thrush. Then try vaseline with the cortisone cream or (over) and/or even on its own. It will improve it...
hi I'm ashwini. I have been suffering from lichen planus for almost 2 years. Well till now all the itching and all has reduced but I'm left with the scars. So it would be great if you could help me out on this my age is 16 and I am female.
I would suggest putting vitamin E oil on the scars from lichens planus. It gets rid of the scars but it may take a few weeks.
Hi... I have the same blisters appearing when I eat food, fruits or sometimes vegetables. Sometimes they stay for a day sometime a week. Some times easy to burst and sometimes not... Did you find any cure? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Ali, I have been diagnosed with oral LP by a biopsy. After trying many things over a ten year period, I found J----oral probiotic lozenges with BLIS K12 and BLIS M18, an inexpensive supplement with 8 lozenges per pack. To my amazement, my gum has healed and my dentist confirms that! I use one at night, after brushing and flossing before I go to sleep, and it takes at least 30 days to colonize. I am so happy and it may help you, too. However, oral LP usually means systemic LP, and the other mucous membranes are not changed. But I'm grateful that my mouth has healed. Best wishes!
Since 5 month I have skin lichen plan, I tried, cortisone, prednisone, protopic, elidel, Tazorac, Topicort and Apo Hydroxyzine for itching, since I bought a neckless made of hazelnut dried wood, it slowly started to fade away. I am doing Soriatane 30mg a day since 1 month, it works. Success is skin well hydrated, soriatane and hazelnut wood.
I'm so sick of these dam spots all over, I've been using ambi for these spots but it's taking forever to work. I tried everything. It's been 1 yr since I been diagnose, is there anything that I can use to get rid of these spots?
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I just recently started using organic virgin coconut oil for lichen planus. The itching is definitely less and within about 2 days they seem to be smaller. I'mm interested in seeing what happens.
I also read about using lavender oil. Has anyone tried this?
I have been reading your posts concerning your battle with Lichen Planus. At one point, I believe in November of 2008, you said you were taking 1000 mg of vitamin C and Apple Cider Vinegar. Then you said that you found the cause, which was some sort of mite. Am I to assume, then, that the Vitamin C and Vinegar helped for a while but didn't cure it? And did your treatment for mites then cure it for you?
I have Lichen Planus both in my mouth and on my skin and am using a dexamethason solution which I rinse my mouth with twice a day for the oral Lichen Planus. This seems to help the condition, but if I quit using the solution, it comes back with a vengeance. The doctor wants to put me on some sort of steroid treatment for the skin LP but I am very leery of this because of the possible side effects, which include weight gain and osteoporosis.
A friend sent me an email which talked about the benefits of using a 35% food grade peroxide for Lupis, which is also an autoimmune condition, so I am thinking of trying that. It is inexpensive and looks to be a beneficial way to treat Lichen Planus as well as other conditions. We have our own well water and my husband raised the question of whether or not there may be bacteria in our water that could be either causing or worsening my Lichen Planus. So I am now drinking only bottled water, which to my concern, I am reading now on the internet, may be too acidic for me. Woe is me! Maybe I am reading too much on the internet! Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks, Marilyn
Hi dear, I am suffering from oral lichen planus too from past few years and have tried with corticosteroid therapy and steroids injections. Later I started with ayurvedic treatment and it has reduced to some extent.
Tea Tree Oil, Dietary Changes, Urine
I was diagnosed two months ago with lichen planus. I have the rash on my ankles, inner wrists, underside of my tongue and inside the walls of my mouth. For the itch on my ankles and wrist I rub three things on the rash that immediately stop the itch. First I rub tea tree oil on it followed by olive oil (organic) and baking soda. This is not a cure for lichen planus only a treatment for the itch.
Diet is key to controlling the intensity of the rash. Basically you have to eliminate all sugars (including honey and agave) dont eat any bread or white rice no processed food etc. you have to get super clean on your diet. I have since gone 90% raw which helps alot.
I got rid of the bumps inside my mouth and the painful lesions on the underside of my tongue by gargling with my urine. I know this might be hard to believe but google "urine therapy" and you will see that urine has a long and ancient history of being used as a medicine.
Question on your statement; Cured some age spots(Tinea) with Head & Shoulders Blue (Selenium Sulfide). Did you actually rub the Head & Shoulders Blue on your Skin to remove Age Spots?
Baking Soda and Borax
Dr. Berg says the best herbal treatment for it is purslane which I have ordered online. I am also going to ask my dermatologist about Otezla. I have read that there has been success with it and it is not too harmful.
Baking Soda and Borax
Did you get approval from a doctor to take 3200 mg of ibuprofen?? That is an extreme amount of Ibuprofen could cause gastric bleeding.
Baking Soda and Borax
My son who is only 4 years old, was recently diagnosed with this horrible condition (Linchen Planus). We are trying to get as much information, and we are not afraid to use any new remedies that could aliviate him. He was even expulsed from day care until we brought a doctors note saying that it was not contagious. he scratches and it is hard to keep him away from doing it until sometimes he bleeds.
Please keep posting your experiences so that we all can learn from each other. Thank you
Baking Soda and Borax
We love avocados too. In fact, this is where our diet is different than McDougall's because we aren't trying to lose weight too. We eat avocados, nuts, seeds etc. Basically, if it came from the earth, we eat it. The only exception is honey but he doesn't seem to react to it. We have a little ham on American Thanksgiving and Christmas. Oh, we also, don't have processed soy stuff very often either (tofu, etc). I guess you would say we follow McDougall's Maximum Weight Loss without any of the rules about amounts.
As for coconut oil, we used to love it too. But now that we don't cook with oil, oil tastes soooooo slimy. We eat coconut instead of just the oil for the health benefits. It is a little challenging to find shredded coconut without sugar all over it here in the USA so more often than not we just buy the whole coconut. Honestly, we love the way our food tastes (this, coming from a beef-eating Texan) and the smell of meat is now sickening to me, the smell and taste of dairy is a weird cow pasture quality to it. We feel incredible eating this way. I know it is not for everyone. A lot of people tell me they couldn't eat this way and I respect their decisions. For me, personally, it is easier to eat this way than watch my child go through the pain, suffering and emotional, as well as physical scarring of this disease. He is almost 8 now and he will have the random slice of pizza, cookie, etc, and the spots come out on his back within a few days. But we don't worry because we know they will go away.
Baking Soda and Borax
MY WIFE HAS THIS LICHEN PLANOPILARIS I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU LOSE YOUR HAIR YOU LOSE IT FOR GOOD. WE NEED HELP IS THERE A CURE?
Baking Soda and Borax
Can you tell us what drug induced your LP, and also the brand of toothpaste that further aggravated it? I am convinced my LP was caused by statin drugs.