Lichen Planus Remedies

Baking Soda and Borax
Posted by Rich (Boca Raton, Fl) on 12/29/2008

I've changed protocols slightly. I believe I have this thing in full reversal. However, 6 months going down doesn't mean two days going back up.

As I said, I am confident that I had a staph infection for 6 months that weakened my immune system, and brought on a candida problem. I cured the staph with mega c(sodium ascorbate)... now I'm dealing with the candida problem (which I believe fungus is the cause of lichen planus, candida or not).

The wart like things that come and go, are probably freindly bacteria eating the fungus. No more fungus, and the warts disappear(and you have crappy looking finger-tips).

With the fish oil, I can't say whether or not this produces friendly bacteria that kills the fungus. Perhaps it does. Perhaps this is just bad bacteria infecting fungally dammaged cells. Unclear.
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I've been killing off fungus very quickly with Niacin and Garlic Pills(Selenium and Sulfur). Uninating several grams of Candida per day.

What comes along with this is that if you kill your fungus, this "friendly bacteria" looks for a new place to attach to. This is called a "dye-off-effect" by the iodine guys. You get a stuffy nose, and feel like you have a cold. During this time period, you can increase your vitamin c(Sodium Ascorbate) substantially without getting diarrhea. I am at 30,000 mg today.

Here is my new protocol:
Selenium Sulfate Head and shoulders with 2 teaspoons of borax (for the dandruff).

Colgate Total Toothpaste (triscolan plus Sodium Laurel Sulfate)

Sodium Ascorbate (6,000 - 30,000 mg)

Niacin (built up from 500mg to 1,500 mg)

Garlic (built up from 5,000mg to 15,000 mg)

Iodine drops (built up to 1,100 mcg per day)

I mix the iodine and vitamin c with milk, take a niacin pill, and 2 garlic oil pills. If I feel a runny nose, then I skip the next dose, and put vitamin c in milk(4000 mg), or orange juice(2000 mg).

Since I've added the garlic, I had a sore live for 1 day, followed by a sore kidney for 2 days, followed by garlicy breath(hit my lungs), followed by the worst gas in my life and diarrhea(intestines).

With the mega-c, the die-off effect comes and goes, a couple hourse at a time (no big deal).
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This new protocol is a modification of Linus Pauling's protocol for Multiple Sclerosis, plus Ted's. It has been postulated in the past that Candida overgrowth in the intestines could lead to MS. I don't know if that is true or not, but I've noticed substantial improvement in 2 weeks on it.

Other problems: you might get a sore back. This could be from the liver, kidney, or the intestines. Make sure you drink lots of extra water.

Additional Notes: don't go to fast, build up gradually at your own pace. The no-flush niacinamide and time-released, stay away from. You want the flush, that means you're actually killing something. Having a doctor actually monitor your blood and liver would probably be a good thing. If you go too fast, you can damage your liver.

Warning on Borax, which I've recommended in the past: Too much borax can explode blood vessels. I cured my blepharitis with it... but I've also seen some blood vessels turn red. Perhaps Borax cures atherosclerosis, however, if you see and signs of red blood vesels, especially next to your eyes, or on your genitals, you better stop using the stuff until those heal. As I've said in the past, ted has chosen wise doses for a reason. There are some studies on Borax that say you can explode blood vessel in the genitals if you go to high on this stuff. What is too high is hard to tell, but if you see red blood vessels then stop.

I've had success with both internal and external use of this substance, but caution should be used.
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ps. Ted, your writing is brilliant. I needed alot of time to catch-up. Where should I send the check to? :)

Dietary Changes
Posted by Terri (Mo) on 09/30/2020

I am A+ as well. It IS interesting-the blood type Theory. I get tick bites very easily and my husband gets none. We live in the woods. My sister told me of a study that states the ticks prefer A+ blood. It's a mystery at this point. Thanks for the info.


Eliminate Vitamin D
Posted by Mrs. Yarb (Emmaus Pa) on 08/10/2016
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I agree with her 100% My daughter has had LS from the age of 2. We did everything her Dr. said nothing worked for years. Her LS had gotten so bad I had to take her out of school and started homeschooling. I would be up day and night reading on LS looking for anything to help her out calling LS Doctors sending out emails. One day I he had received a phone call from a Dr. in L.A. He had just finished reading my email. He told me change her diet cut out milk he said to try coconut, almond milk not milk from a cow or any animal. More white meat less red meat lots of green veggies. To buy gluten free foods. My daughter has had no LS problems for 5 years now. But this summer she was at her grandparents house. She came home in pain crying that she had burning again I took a look and her skin was right back. The only thing different my parent did was the milk they drink regular milk. My daughter loves regular milk but I never buy it, so when she was at my mom's she went overboard my mom said she had to buy milk everyday. Now that she is home her pain is less and less I too believe the milk has a lot to do with. Everyone is different but I believe changing her diet and giving her coconut milk or almond milk has helped her alot.


Black Seed Oil
Posted by Pure (Washington Dc) on 10/12/2018

Lichen Planus: I've had most of the same signs that most of y'all are having But let me tell you what helps me 100 percent: black seed oil mix with vit E oil or coconut oil every single day and now I don't see or feel the affect of this curse.

Hyaluronic Acid
Posted by Rsw (Oh) on 03/02/2018
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Hyalauronic Acid (HA) / Orabase trial for Oral Lichen Planus - Observations

I tried the 0.2% HA/Orabase mixture on gums and mouth for 16 days. We estimated that for each 30g. tube of Orabase, adding food grade powdered HA that fit on the tip of a dinner knife would be an approximate 0.2% mixture. Each tube lasted about 8 days. It was applied 3 times/day for a minimum of 30 minutes each time to (a few days)used overnight. Because you cannot go out with this mixture on the mouth, I extended the 14 day trial to 16 days to make up for four missed applications.

This definitely stirred things up. The LP began moving to other areas of the mouth, with quite a bit of burning noticed in the AM. I am not sure if this was due to the HA or the Orabase. I had a very small filling on a bottom tooth (it was decades old from a minimally chipped tooth), which came out when this was left on at night. After that, I discontinued using the mixture overnight. I had a small amount of Orabase left over, so I mixed it with alcohol-free liquid tumeric extract and used that for two days. (The liquid mixed with the Orabase makes the Orabase less able to be spread around). No relief. So I chewed some watercress for a few days, then cilantro for a few days, and left it on my gums to chelate whatever was going on.

I went to the health food store to look for dental products and ran into a woman who had major infected gum problems, and she told me she had read a book that said Goldenseal was needed to cure this. I looked this up when I got home and it seemed to be a good idea for sore gums, and I had liquid, alcohol-free Echinacea/Goldenseal with Burdock Root, Wood Betony and Cayenne Pepper, all recommended (along with Myrr, but I didn't have that). It seemed to help a lot, so I have ordered some more. The Cayenne did not burn, which was surprising.

I am so grateful to have this study posted from Art, because I was about at the end of the line in options. Even though it created some change in the status of the mouth, I think this may be a good thing to alert the body to try and heal itself. It also lead to other options I had not considered. I had a very red mark on my gum for months that is decidedly lessened in color. The results of the NIH study were excellent, so I may have mixed the dosage incorrectly, and I did mix it by hand, so it may not have been totally evenly distributed, although I mixed it for quite a while. I don't want to discourage anyone else from trying this. I have had LP for a long time, and my gums are very sensitive. All in all, I think some progress has been made because my gums looks less inflamed and a more natural color, although some burning remains, especially in the morning. I'm happy! Thank you.

Hyaluronic Acid
Posted by Rsw (Oh) on 05/09/2018

Hi Art,

It's difficult for me to say, because I have trouble only doing one thing at a time, which I realize may distort the results. I had tried to take a break from LDN because a researcher I trust had suggested she had done this. This is the second year I have tried this, and both years, after being off the LDN for a month or more (I was shooting for six months), I picked up a nasty virus that lasted weeks and weeks, after never being ill at all in all the years I have taken it. So that has to be factored in. The HA study said to keep it on at least for half an hour which I may have interpreted incorrectly as more is better, even keeping it on overnight a day or two. My teeth seemed to be more sensitive and hopefully I didn't lose any enamel. I'm also not sure if I was able to thoroughly mix and distribute the HA in the Orabase by hand. I went into a LP flare from all this. I was able to reverse it after using a echinacea/goldenseal liquid swished in mouth and swallowed, and surprisingly, a toothpaste with Myrrh extract, Clove oil, folic acid, grapefruit extract, zinc and CoQ10. I thought the clove would be an immediate No-Go, but it worked surprisingly well. I think the zinc may have been the main help. Not totally, and I have had to back off to a lower usage, but enough to become tolerable again. My dentist felt that I had some improvement but still had inflammation in my front gums, which is interesting because the inflammation used to be all in the back gums and seems to have reversed position. It still is improved and my gums are not receeding as much. My most reliable indication of the status of the LP is that when I first wake up in the morning, the first thing I am aware of is my gums are burning, and this has definitely improved.

I am very grateful to you for showing me studies that I wasn't able to find myself, and showing me different possible remedies that may lead to a cure. This is a creepy, awful little autoimmune, like most are, and I continue to hope to find a complete cure one of these days. I don't think I will try a long term break from the LDN again, but take it less often and at a lower dose, which is sometimes advised. I sometimes think it's not doing much until I take a break! It is subtle, like borax. (It's NOT subtle for people with MS, Crohn's and many other diseases which it helps return the user to a normal life if taken regularly). Thank you, Art, for helping so many of us and always thinking outside the box, which is probably how we will discover a cure or complete remission. I keep returning to that list of LP, psoriasis, Sgogren's, etc into a group and how your supplements were listed for these autoimmunes. What is the link?


Colloidal Silver
Posted by Rsw (Ohwhat Could Be Termed A Cure Is ) on 08/26/2017

Hi Alison,

I have been searching for a cure for oral LP for over a decade, and the only study to show what could be termed a "cure" is this one:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3961895/

Best wishes! Thanks for your post!


Probiotics
Posted by Jdh (New Mexico) on 10/16/2016
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I had Lichen Planus for 10+ years. I started taking the probiotic strain Lactobacillus casei for arthritis I believed was caused by oral bacteria. Within 30 days my arthritis had improved but the lichen had almost disappeared!! After more research I found there is a link between the two so I added a women's probiotic and vitamin C. 60 days out and only a few white dots left and no itching!! Purchased both on Amazon.

Salt Water Baths
Posted by Penny ( Az) on 04/16/2015
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Sophie, thank you! We went to Mexico and while there my intuition told me to get in the ocean water for my lichen planus, which was all over my back and various other places. I did that, and it got lighter, and within a few weeks it disappeared!! Wooohooo!! :-) I heartily recommend getting your body in the ocean as a remedy for lichen planus!! :-)


Comfrey
Posted by Rosanne (Toronto, CA) on 07/11/2014
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I found an ointment with comfrey at our big health food store (actually, they had several). It is comfrey in a base of olive oil and beeswax.

Sadly, I'd have to rate this "better but not cured." It does help to control the itch, but the underlying condition remains.

So, I will continue the search...


Borax
Posted by Live~n~well In Aptos, Ca (Aptos, California, USA) on 10/02/2012
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OMG... Happy to be reporting back. I am what I feel is LP FREE!! Iv'e been using Borax 1/8 tsp 2x daily, since May 1, 2012 it's now Oct 2, 2012 and my mouth is beautiful, my stomach doesn't burn, and my below the belt has not had any reactions since May. I am now begining to reintroduce some of the foods that I couldn't tolerate and I'm doing back flips over my progress with Borax.

Based upon my initial reaction to the Borax, I cut the medication Placquinel down by 1/2 and 2 weeks later cut it out completely (I've also had tremendous problems with my eyesite due to the Placquinel).

I take B-6, C, fats (fish oils, tonalin, blackcurrant, & occassional evening primrose), magnesium, zinc, and Ultra H-3, MSM and HMB for my muscles (I do classical ballet 5 days a week at 47 and my training is intense).

The only thing I'm still struggeling with is YEAST... Does anyone have any suggestions for YEAST? I don't do sugar, fruits, or carbs, so I eat really healthy. I do drink coffee (1x per day) and I like an occassional glass of wine. Other than that, no sodas, teas, or fancy carbonated beverages. Its gotten really bad and I've had it now for years. I realize YEAST can lead to a number of illnesses and this scares me. Lately I'm more irritable then ever before, more congested (post nasal drip, lungs, etc), and more stressed out than ever before.

Any other remedies like Borax for LP to cure systemic YEAST? Thank you to everyone who blogs here. In deep gratitude for all of you, TED, and EarthClinic!!

Live~n~well In Aptos, Ca

Borax
Posted by Serena (Flat Rock, Nc) on 06/14/2015
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Thank for the posting about borax healing sores from lichen planus!!! I've only used a few days and all the ulcers are gone and my tongue is pink again!! Haven't had any side effects either!! I've had this for over a year tried everything from purslane, vitamins, lymphatic drainage and nothing has gotten rid of it but borax!!!! I'm so grateful to have found the information!!!


Borax
Posted by Baldev (Mumbai Maharashtra India) on 07/21/2017 189 posts

Hi Siddeswari,

Sorry to read that you are suffering from LP for pretty long time. Aloe vera is good, you can continue taking it internally and application. Borax is very effective on LP which also should be used internally and for application. For internal use you can mix 1/8th tea spoon of Borax in one litter of filtered water and drink this water whole day, only precaution you have to take is that don't drink this immediately before and after the meal. I prefer that this be stored in a glass bottle.

Also you have to change the life style, meaning you have to avoid stress/strain situations, include some exercise ( you must sweat ) in your daily schedule and most important your diet. Your diet has to be more on the alkaline side, I will even suggest taking enema to clean the colon.

Good Luck

Baldev


Dietary Changes, Sage, Aloe
Posted by Milli (Leiden, Netherlands) on 01/01/2012

I battled for years - and still - with glucose intolerance and candidiasis after nearly dying of peritonitis (inflicted by a surgeon carelessly performing a laperoscopy. Went into hospital with vague stomach pain, came out with a punctured bowel).

Banish all sugar and yeast and living as close to nature as possible worked a miracle! Zero confidence left in the medical profession and pharmaceutical remedies. My best friend now suffers with lichen planus and has been prescribed all kinds of steroids and ointments that don't work and are too painful to apply anyway. So she turned to me, her 'witch doctor' friend and is now on the mend.

The immediate remedy for lichen planus in the mouth is sage, either chewing the fresh leaves or if this is too painful, brewing tea from it. (Fresh) Bayleaf may be added to soothe the throat. Rosemary is less potent than sage but also works and has the added advantage of being a breath freshener. Lichen planus on the skin is best treated, depending on the severity of the skin lesions, with 99% aloe vera gel (skin mildly afflicted) or honey poultices (put cold-pressed organic honey on a gauze and attach to the skin with hypo-allergenic plaster). Honey naturally is antifungal and antibacterial. These are symptomatic treatments, however.

Systemic treatment means banning all fungi (mushrooms, cheese, beer and wine - good quality brandy will be 'manageable' - bread, peanuts, unwashed vegetables etc. ) as well as processed sugar (i. e. Refined, including all sugar derivatives) though honey and fructose may be tolerated. Plus complementing one's diet with beneficial bacteria to restore balance to the gut flora, e.g. Acidophilus (present in bio yoghurt) and bifidus. Once the immune system is functioning adequately again, foodstuffs such as bread may slowly be added to the diet again so that the body's response may be monitored.


Please someone try this and let me know whether this is beneficial to you, too?

pH Regulation
Posted by Ben (Ny) on 07/25/2011
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I think that lichens planus has alot to do with the acidity of the body. I have found that if I keep my (urine) pH up (~6.2 or higher), that the itch goes away and the bumps stop appearing. If the pH goes lower, the itch starts and the bumps start reappearing.

I started noticing this because I would get something like water blisters in my mouth around meal time. If figured that my pH would be lower around meals. I also noticed that the blisters would pop easily if my pH was up, and would be harder to pop if the pH was low.

I think that lichens planus might be a reaction to acidic sweat.

I have used baking soda to raise my pH

Baking Soda and Borax
Posted by Ej (Ballarat, Victoria) on 07/15/2017

I was diagnosed with oral lichen planus a couple of years ago and despite the specialist dentist (major hospital) telling me little could be done, I found his advice to be (thankfully) incorrect. When I enquired about the possibility of the condition being related to medication, he said it was 'possible' but 'unlikely' and 'too difficult to determine.' Not being satisfied with this answer, I researched various drugs connected with the condition and went through a process of elimination. The end result? I can confirm that my lichen planus was indeed drug induced and was also being exacerbated by a certain toothpaste I was using. Fortunately, the dentist in question knew about the link between amalgams and lichen planus, so I have started having various teeth refilled/removed as a result. I strongly recommend that people research matters for themselves, as we must become our own (health) advocates.


Eliminate Vitamin D
Posted by Dionisia (Chester, Sc) on 07/03/2020

I have 4 children and with each pregnancy, I took prenatal vitamins and my LP would go completely away. At my house, we drink a lot of milk and eat a lot of cereal and it does not cause me to break out. I think it is individual to each person.

I am very low on Vitamin D and take pills to bring up my levels but I do not have breakouts. I have been on all the creams and steroids and it did not work. I have been on Plaquenil and all types of antibiotics and they did not work.

Now, I am taking Methotrexate and Folic acid and I am seeing great improvements. Why are people responsive to some treatments and not responsive to others? It is a difficult disease!


Vitamin K, Vitamin D, Baking Soda and Borax
Posted by Quinn (New York, Ny) on 02/15/2011

Hi Gwendolyn, please clarify, I have lichen planus and I hear so many mentions of Borax (20 mule team) if I am not mistaken this is a laundry or cleaning powder? Are you saying drink this? I am not opposed, I just need to know if this is a part of the formula you are suggesting. I am simply looking for some sort of a solution to kill the parasites that invade the body causing these rashes to continue living. Thank you


Hyaluronic Acid
Posted by Art (California ) on 05/07/2018 1053 posts

Hi RSW,

Just wondering how your hyaluronic acid experiment turned out regarding OLP? It's been about another two months, so I thought you would have a better idea now if the HA is helpful for you or not?

Art


Dietary Changes, UV Light Therapy
Posted by Lp (Eu) on 12/01/2017
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Hi. Just wanted to write our experience treating lichen planus in child. We changed our son's diet and treated him with UVB phototherapy and his LP condition improved.

He is almost cured after 4 months and his condition was bad. He had many skin bumps, nail and oral form. He does not drink cow milk, only goat milk and joghurt, he is wheat free. I also give him omega oil, curcuma capsules, probiotic and multivitamin. His doctor prescribed corticosteroid creams and a series of UVB phototheraphy treatments ( more than 20 to be exact) and that helped a lot.

Now we are not sure how to improve condition of his nails. Please share.


Aloe Vera
Posted by Liette (Ontario) on 02/20/2018
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My oral lichen planus is getting worse and the burning too. I had some red rash under my breasts that was really itchy and didn't like the side effects of protopic so I tried aloe vera gel and after I put a cream that I made 50/50 coconut oil and cocoa butter. It took about 3-4 weeks for the itchiness to go away. Now, about 2-3 months later, the redness is almost all gone!

So then I decided to try to swish aloe vera juice in my mouth for the OLP. It burns but my gums turn light pink which is incredible to me since they are pretty much red. I also started swallowing about 1 oz because I have LP in the esophagus as well. It burned at first but now it does't anymore so I think it's working. Will try to take 2 oz now to see if it helps even more!


Tanning
Posted by Palmmmadison (Albuquerque) on 07/21/2016
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I've been suffering with Lichen Planus for 2 1/2 years and I tried everything. Oatmeal baths, tea tree oil, olive oil and leaf. I went to my doctor and she prescribed medicine to help with the incredible itching sensation. It didn't work and was referred to a dermatologist. She began saying that it wasn't as bad as she's seen in the past. She prescribed a steroid cream ans sent me on my way. Everything cleared up. Till I ran out of the steroid cream and it came back twice as bad. She then put me on a steroid pill with more creams. But, I knew it was temporary. I could feel it trying to come back. Around my eyes and mouth the top of my genitals. My legs were starting to get it at this point and my arms and my back was also covered now. Then it came to me. I use to go tanning, you know in tanning beds. Just in the spring for a month or two and only a couple times a week. I'm not a sun worshiper but, I didn't like getting a sunburn in the summer. So I would go for a short time just to create some color so I wouldn't burn. But, after I got married three years ago I decided to stop for now on, because it's not good for you anytime, and I didn't want to put myself at risk for cancer. But, like I said I've had this rash for 2 1/2 yrs now. So it became very obvious why this rash was taking over. And what was keeping it at bay for all these years.

I starting going into tanning beds or red light therapy (which is safe by the way) when I was 18 or 19 and just very little in the Spring and I stopped going when I was 31. I never had a single problem with my skin during this time. Before I went tanning ever, in high school I remember a period of time where I had this rash on my face, but then it went away after a few months and trying not wear makeup.

But, now at 34, I have this all over my body... nothing seems to hold it back. So, I decided to go tanning... for small amounts of time 5 to 8 minutes and for a month or two. Also, for only a few times a week. I've gotten through the first week and I have to say I haven't felt itchy even once! I've only gone three times and my sores are healing. All my bumps and new ones trying to form are gone! My skin is smooth. My scars are still there, but they even look better.

I know tanning beds aren't any good for you, but I look at it this way. Small amounts shouldn't hurt me and I'm wearing SPF 50 during the day. Just so I don't get additional exposure from the sun. I feel so much better.

FYI: My dermatologist was absolutely against it! She was not open to hearing this idea of tanning that could help me. My Dr wouldn't hear of it. I'm going to continue to treat my self a few times a week for two months. That should nip it in the bud, at least for the rest of the year. I hope this could be helpful to those out there suffering from this. I know how you feel.


Essential Oils
Posted by China (Kelayres, Pa) on 07/15/2016

I had Lichen Planus on my hands and forearms. But I used essential oils. It was a mixer of lavender, tea tree and coconut oils. Then I mixed all in organic plain cream. This I used sometimes twice a day after my bath. Also I took a bath every day with 1/4 cup baking soda poured in the tub. But you have to rinse private areas good after bath. Some people say you get a itch if you don't. It has taken it away totally. Good luck!


Comfrey
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee) on 05/07/2014

I do not know the recipe the original poster used, but I can share how I make ointments/salves.

To make comfrey root ointment, you can put the clean chopped root (or dried if that is what you have) in a pot (Stainless steel or glass). Cover with olive oil. Heat on stove (electric is better as you can get lower heat. If you must use a gas stove, use a double boiler.) You want it just at a low simmer. Heat for 45 minutes or so. Strain out the root with a coffee filter. Add 1/2 ounce of beeswax for each 4 ounces of oil extract. Heat gently until the wax melts. Put a dab in the freezer for a minute or two and see if you like the consistency. If it is too thin for you, add a little more beeswax. If it is too hard, add a little more olive oil. When you are happy with the consistency, you can pour it into jars or tins. You can add a little vitamin E oil to help it to last longer. Or just store most of it in the refrigerator.

You can also just put the root in a mason jar and cover with olive oil and put the lid on it. Let sit for a couple of weeks. Then strain the root and heat the oil and add beeswax, etc. This is easier, since you don't have to sit and keep an eye on it. But, of course, it takes a lot longer. I am not sure which produces a better product. We have made salves both ways and they have been very effective.

Comfrey leaves can be used instead of the root if that is what you have available. I LOVE my salves that have comfrey in them. We use them all the time for so many things. (Burns, stings, rashes, bites, chapped skin poison ivy etc.) I also include plantain leaf, burdock root, and calendula flowers in the salve I make as an all purpose salve.

Let us know if comfrey root salve works on your lichen planus!

~Mama to Many~


Olive Leaf
Posted by Yass (London, Uk ) on 04/04/2013
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Please, anyone with mouth lichen planus, please try olive leaf you can swallow.

Borax
Posted by Siddeswari (Bangalore) on 07/19/2017

Hi Anjali,

I sugest not go for steroidal treatment for LP event hough it is mostly recommended by dermatologists, as it only relieves it for few months. When you stop your steroidal treatment (especially oral medication) it reverts and the lesions become more aggresive. I am dealing it with for past 7-8 years and this was my observation. Try to go for more natural remedies, such as use applying aloe vera gel and consumption of the juice.

Also, let me know if you have found some home remedy to treat.

Regards,

Siddeswari


Borax
Posted by Rsw (Oh) on 07/20/2017

Hi Siddeswari,

Tumeric has been found to be effective in healing oral Lichen Planus. Not sure what kind you have, but since turmeric is widely available, maybe give it a try, both orally and topically. Best wishes.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3961895/


Dietary Changes
Posted by Jennykk (Mansfield, Australia) on 11/12/2011
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Hi, my experience with Lichen Planus, firstly an oral specialist prescribed cortisone, not to take it but to rinse out the mouth 3 times a day to reduce the inflamation and help repair the damage. However I am quite drug sensitive and couldnt do any more than three days. I was informed that Lichen Planus is an auto immune system disorder, and there is no cure.

However I have been dealing with a naturopath in Qld, Mermaid beach, this wonderful lady does hair analysis, and has helped me enormously, she found I had a multitude of problems that stressed the immune system.

But Lichan Planus lives off sugars and yeast, so the first thing is to give up both these things in the diet, and I did if for nearly a year, I make my own sourdough, that was easy. What was really hard was sugar, the sugar in tea and coffee was a breeze, but the alcohol was not, not that I am a drinker but I do enjoy an occassional beer or wine or whisky, they were to me like treats, not daily and never a hangover even but just something nice at the end of the week.

And no chocolate, or desserts, no vegemite etc

But the Lichan Planus was gone for some months, but sneaking a bit of sweet stuff from time to time, and now stressful times with business being busy and Christmas coming I have tender gums again, so back to hard core diet, it's shit full, but if anyone out there has any better input that would be helpful, that would good great.

regards, JennyKK

kitchbojen(at)optusnet.com.au

Dietary Changes
Posted by Jennykk (Mansfield. Vic. Australia) on 10/31/2013

Report of my progress with Lichan Planus:- 2 years ago I had blistering and sore red gums, yes Lichan planus is nasty.

I was working with a naturopath, western medicine to me is sometimes toxic, my body is drug sensitive. I couldnt tolerate the treatment of rinsing out the mouth with predisonole 4 times a day.

In the recent dental journal in Australia, Lichan planus has been linked to amalgums, so I had all 13 fillings removed, and feel so much better for it, my immune system was struggling.

Some medical professionals say these fillings don't do anything, but if you grind your teeth at night, then yes they do cause problems.

The problem does not have a permanant cure, so keep off yeasts in all forms, especially beer, and sugars, and you will feel healthier, and the soreness of your gums will improve, and only use a herbal toothpaste, as a lot of toothpastes agravate the problem. good luck, Jennykk


L-Lysine, B-6
Posted by Mspatpat (Dayton, Ohio) on 06/28/2011
5 out of 5 stars

I have had skin Lichen Planus for about 1-1yrs. I tried all the Dr's suggestion. But it always returned just as bad. Finally and herbalist for a health food store in Atlanta Georgia call (i think) the Garden of Eden, told me to take 2000-3000mg of L-Lysine & 50mg P5P (B6) 3x per day. And from the first 1000 mg that evening my itching & breakouts decrease about 99%!! I like the L-Lysine by Solaray that also contains vitamin C, Zinc and Vitamin B6. Hope this helps.

L-Lysine, B-6
Posted by King Kevin (Illinois) on 12/07/2015
1 out of 5 stars

Yikes because the Dr. as well as me and my wife have narrowed it down to the lichen planus being caused by a high lysine dose...especially after you stop taking them...mine was 6 months after I stopped the lysine and my LP lasted close to a year after. Get .05% clobetasol ointment for the skin and a kenalog shot for the instant relief.

Haven't seen a bump in 3 years and have used the ointment twice in those 3 years. Only diet I live by is eat whatever you want so don't let people tell you to stop eating and drinking all your favorite stuff. I know I wish someone had said this to me when I was dealing with it. Just go to your Dr and ask for kenalog shot and clobetasol ointment. Done!


Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Debbie (Nobleton, Florida) on 04/18/2012

I have been fighting sores mostly on my arms for 3 months now. The inside of my mouth and tongue are very sensitive. After this long, I decided to research the condition because it just wasn't going away. I finally come to the conclusion that it has to be lichen platus. I remembered when I was a child, doctors used to recommend sulpher tablets for various issues affecting the skin, such as impitigo. I just went on the net and ordered some. I will let you guys know how it works. I have confidence.


Tea Tree Oil, Dietary Changes, Urine
Posted by Blackandmoore (Boston, Ma, Usa) on 09/10/2010

I found this very interesting been suffering with the rash on my hands, arms, feet, legs and lower back. I have been using Aloe, and had made those diet changes you talked about. However over the past few weeks, I have been eating more sugar and white flour and for sure it has flared up again. Thanks for your suggestions.


Baking Soda and Borax
Posted by Rich (Boca Raton, Fl) on 03/30/2009

As this disease is "supposedly harmless", I have spent a considerable time trying various treatments to try and cure various symptoms with mixed but mostly positive results. I think Ted is a genious, and I am eternally grateful to him, for the knowledge that he has shared through this terrific forum.
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Unfotunately, I feel I have too many posts in this topic, and so I lose some credibility; here is the real deal on my current opinion on this disease, and why I have had so much trouble curing it.

I feel that this is a candida-related disease. I have seen so much yeast come from my mouth, that I can't perceive it being anything else. I have seen a white yeast and also a brown yeast. And I have coughed up some yeast as well (from my lungs)(both colors).

In the last 10-years, with my smoking, 4x I have sneezed up blood(like a bloody nose, kind of). I always used to blame the smoking until 1-year ago(4th time), I coughed up a black bug(crab-like)... and I haven't had blood or congestion since, inspite of still smoking. I believe the bug was eating the yeast in my lungs.

Swallowing Vinegar cured my blue warts(on my fingers)(gram-negative anerobic bacteria?).
Swallowing 1/8th teaspoon borax cured my twitchy eye(Blepharitis); however, leve some dark lines where people usually get wrinkles.(is it Tinea, who knows?)

Cured some age spots(Tinea) with Head & Shoulders Blue (Selenium Sulfide).

Cured some un-itchy jock-itch/eczema with the H&S Blue.

As Psoriasis and Eczema patients are almost always Selenium deficient, I have convinced myself that I am Selenium deficient.

Had a Herxheimer-effect with Garlic (this stuff is awesome; has selenium), but wife and family complained I was stinky(on 5 super-garlic pills/day).

Cured a brain-fog issue with a b-vitamin(thiamin-deficiency?).

I think as a big beer-drinker, you are what you eat, and 30% of my calories came from a yeast product(beer), and so I got a yeast problem.

Except for the two days of brain-fog, I can't really say I've felt very sick from 10-years of this disease.

The last symptom I had... at 13, I had no Gin-allergy. At 21, I had hives on my neck from Gin. Last week, I had 1-bump from Gin on my neck... and none the next day. Juniper Oil kills candida(see Psoriasis topic). Perhap a yeast-infected thyroid-gland.
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Been mouth-washing with a dime-full of shampoo, 4x per day. I have a red tongue for the first time in 10-years. Been using a toungue scraper and taking 500 micrograms of Selenium Selinite as well, though. I am confident that Selenium deficiency will cure me. However, I feel bad that I have so many posts already in this thread. I will not post again for 6 months unless I'm cured, but will post in 6 months in case I'm not (for Historical Purposes). I will reply to questions though.

Today I felt like a million bucks. No smoking related congestion. I felt the best I've felt in 5-years. Doing all the bad stuff with no problems. However, I am not cured; so I have no right to give anybody advice yet. I have faith that Selenium deficiency is the root cause of this disease (Ted says MS is the same thing(White-Muscle Disease in animals)... I think he has this one right, and I was too slow to hear him. Impatience is frustrating though.

For historical purposes of symptoms, I have 7 cherry angioma spots that have popped up in the last year (never had them before), and fordyce spots(oil glands on the lips). These have never been associated with lichen planus or candida... but when I googled cherry angioma, I saw an accound saying someone got these when they had a yeast problem; they cured the yeast problem, and these didn't go away; so I wanted to second the report.

EC: Rich, if you'd like EC to remove any of your posts on this page, just let us know which ones...

Baking Soda and Borax
Posted by Reema (Dallas, Tx) on 12/04/2009

Hi

I have Lichenplanus since several years, it has spread to various parts of my body and has left scars. I have tried all possible treatmens homeopathy, ayurveda, naturopathy and have not had much succcess. Could someone please advice me on some remedy that may give me relief and reduce the scars. I am appreciative of any feedback provided. Do I try ACV, turmeric, borax, vitamin C, I am very confused as to the different theories behind this and remedies to try and get this problem under control. Please Please advice. Thanks Reema


Baking Soda and Borax
Posted by Marie (Doral, Fl) on 04/05/2010

Rich from Boca Raton:

Please advise whether you have cured you lichen planus and how?? I've had this for quite a few years now and it's frustrating! I can't believe there is no cure for this if it's so mild as doctors say! And no one can provide a straight forward reason as to how it comes about and a proper treatment aside from steroids.

To Reema, hope you have had some sucess with this, as I am at my limit with this!

Any feedback from anyone will help!


Baking Soda and Borax
Posted by Broset (Monroe, Mi) on 02/02/2011

Ive had this on my ankle now for about 8 years... Got real tired of this and started reading, .. first off its a inflammatory disease.

so for that im taking 3200 mg of ibuprofen 800 mg every 6 hours (anti inflammatory) a day which slows the imune response... Im also takeing vitimin A, D, and zinc.. And putting neosporin on it.. Also taking benadryl.. ibuprofen is the same as motrin but I think the biggest amount you can get is 200 mg...

after the first day swelling went down 95 percent, does not itch, and is drying up nice... also broke out on my hands which is almost gone now.

vitimin A helps with skin, you need vitimin d to absorb the zinc better, zinc also helps with skin repair.

dont do more then 50 mg of zinc a day

mine was so bad that it was oozing and bleeding on my ankle


Baking Soda and Borax
Posted by Nina (Malma, Sweden) on 08/30/2011

I was rather fascinated by your post and think it is fantastic news that you and your family got help.

I looked up the Mcdougall diet as and didn't really like the reviews I read. Especially for those suffering from hypoglycemia etc. The site called give it to me raw reviews diet and I suggest anyone who thinking about trying this diet read some of the reviews of this high carb, zero fat and little protein diet. Here in my country of origin low carb diets and high fat diets seem to becoming more and more popular for dealing with not only weightloss but diabetes, high blood pressure and the horrible pms. This low carb diet is reccomended by doctors here, can't imagine living life without those yummy avacados or even worse without that amazingly healthy cocconut oil!

Peace


Baking Soda and Borax
Posted by Liveinthepresent (Walnut Creek, California) on 01/02/2012

I was diagnosed with Oral Lichen Planus several months ago by my ENT. In reply to the oral manifestation of Lichen Planus, I can only speak for what has worked for me, but it seems many others share similar beneficial results. One common denominator appears to be pro-inflammatory foods, and I would add that another trigger seems to be stress.

I noticed many of my leukoplakia lesions quite literally "sloughed" off by chewing raw garlic all day (which has potent natural antibacterial and anti-fungal properties). Garlic in combination with a vegetable and fruit (fruits like strawberry and blackberry) heavy diet seemed to keep my symptoms at bay, but once I introduced sugar and baked foods (a lapse during a holiday celebration), my plaques and lesions came back. I knew it had to be the refined sugars and processed carbohydrates because as soon as I eliminated them, and started chewing garlic and drinking green tea again, my symptoms went away (i.e. the oral lesions).

The other thing that seems to exacerbate my symptoms is fixation on my jaw/mouth, and stress. When I'm stressed, I have the bad habit of concentrating tension in my mouth, and getting dry mouth. These habits are definite triggers, as any time I fixate on that area, or have inordinate amounts of stress, physical symptoms appear in my mouth. When I take things to control my cortisol (things like L-Theanine with Relora), or work on relaxation techniques preoccupying myself by keeping stress away from my jaw and mouth and out of my body in general, the symptoms subside. The difference is a marked, pronounced decrease in Lichen Planus lesions and ulcers.

In combination, both stress relief and a strict diet that eliminates refined sugar and carbohydrates seems to be my "cure" if you can call it that. I'm conscious of eating a healthier diet now, and keeping stress at bay, as both appear to be a 2-pronged effective therapy. I highly recommend that people add garlic, and cool (not hot) green and black tea to their diets. I saw noticeable results doing both.


Baking Soda and Borax
Posted by Alka (Coppell, Tx) on 09/09/2015

Llp from Houston,

I know your post is from 2011 but I was wondering if you could update us on the latest status for your son and if you are still following the diet?

I was diagnosed with LP and LPP 9 months back and am struggling with it. I am on cellcept and also following a strict vegetarian diet for the last few weeks. My LPP seems to be better - the patches are lighter pink and I dont see any new patches. MY LP also seems better though I do see very very small bumps or just some rough skin in places and do think it is a very mild form of LP.

If you saw such wonderful results I would seriously consider following the McDougall diet.

Thanks and hoping you will reply.

Alka from Coppell, TX


Iodine
Posted by Rich (Boca Raton, Fl) on 01/30/2009
4 out of 5 stars

I'm 2 days into trying "Betadine/Providone" as a mouthwash for the "Oral Lichen Planus", aka Gum Disease of the cheeks and tongue. This is similar to the cure for white tongue in another topic, which uses Iodized Salt. The Salt may work eventually as well. I'm very encouraged by the preliminary results though. Iodine kills candida and many bacterias as well. The protocol here is 40 seconds, 3x per day for 10 days. It's used for drug resistant thrush in Aids patients... and may aid in Gum disease.

The FDA approved perscription drug for Gum disease is Chlorhexadine, which as I said, kills ringworm as well, and is antifungal. If this iodine solution doesn't work perhaps I'll try that, but I have good preliminary indications that this will work.

Iodine
Posted by Mignon (Arnhem, The Netherlands) on 08/05/2012

The post is so old, but I wondered what the result was of iodine mouthwash for Lichen Planus?


Baking Soda and Borax
Posted by Rich (Boca Raton, Fl) on 01/08/2009

Dear PR,
Excellent Question about the Iodine. The truth is that I'm learning as I go. I don't know the answer, and am working on theoretical models, based on reading the reports on here, and then following up with my own research on why these cures seem to work, maybe 3 hours per day.

What I have noticed is that all of these substances on this website are anti-infectives. And in fact, they are all anti-fungals. No matter which anti-fungal I try, I get positive results.

With Garlic, I am taking a 1500 mg pill, which is really 3 mg of 500:1 concentrated oil. So it's basically 3mg of Fat-Soluble sulfer. I've read reports of a guy taking 80,000 mg (160 mg Sulfer?) of Garlic slowly built up over time, and curing rosacea. Nice. Perhaps a glucosamine Sulfate pill would get the job done instead... maybe. Note: Glucosamine HCL can't beat the placebo... so I don't think that the Glucosamine half does anything.
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On the anti-oxident question, you're right that an Ascorbate or Acetate has both an anti-oxidant plus a pro-oxidant aspect to it. Vitamin C is very poor at killing fungus, but in ascorbate form, it can do something.

With the mega-dose of Ascorbate (which is also used in water treatment, btw), only so much will go in the blood... and the rest acts like toothpaste for the intestines. You can even brush your teeth with the stuff. Nice. Placed in milk, you can't taste it.
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I'm thinking that the mouth condition is an early form of gum-disease, that may lead to "Chronic Mucosal Candidadis".

Apparently, Candida has a mechanism to break down lysine, which is a limiting amino acid necessary to produce collagen. So I've added 2400 mg of L-Lysine to promote faster healing.
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I have also tried something new on Saturday with positive results. I tried to heal up my body as good as possible with all the vitamins and stuff listed above.

Then I gargled with a lot of colgate total for 10 minutes. I could see some fungally damaged skin and pockets of skin(common in gum disease) seep out of my gums and cheeks, and some white stuff that looked like fungal candida. This hurts, though.

Then two hours later, I tried it again. Then rinsed with diluted ACV(which also hurts).

What I think is that Sulfate is the best antifungal (Sulfur plus Oxygen), and that mixed with the H202(in the toothpaste as well), allows for deep tissue penetratation. Plus this toothpaste has a neutral ph plus an antibiotic.

Of course, after I did this, my mouth filled up with lots of skin-like white stuff, which I figure is your mouths natural-way of scabbing.

5-days later, it feels like I have a new mouth (perhaps I do). The toungue is light red(Yes!). The dark blue vericose-like veins under the tongue have practically vanished. The white lesions on the side of my mouth have improved somewhat as well. I believe that I have succeeded in healing faster than the candida can grow. I really wish I had bought some ph strips to test my saliva, though.

I have no doubt that I didn't kill it all in 1 shot, but perhaps I got 90 or 95% of it in 1 shot, and maybe if I repeat the process this weekend, I can get the rest of it... I'm giving my mouth a week to heal first, though.

But yeah, I've had a red-tounge that isn't turning white again for 5 straight days which is a record, so I'm pretty excited about the results (Note: I've had a white tongue for 10-years)(Never a yeast like taste in my mouth until a few months ago, though). I kind of wanted to wait a few more weeks to see if this is a long-term cure before posting, but I didn't want to leave your question hanging in wait.

In a gum disease topic here, I saw someone had some success with Turmeric. Besides the curcurminoids, Turmeric is high in Sulfur. Nice.

As for milk, it has a slightly acidic ph, but adding the ascorbate raises it. Milk has lactoferrin, Iodine, Sulfur, plus Lactose... if you drink milk and exercise, you can create lactic acid(which kills the yeast-form of candida), far quicker than acidophilus. Some people love the stuff, I haven't tried it, but I believe it's easier just exercising to create lactic acid and using the ACV cure(Acetate), plus the other stuff can kill this stuff in a couple of weeks, rather than waiting 6 months for the Acidophilus to work.


Baking Soda and Borax
Posted by Natia (Troy, Ny) on 07/09/2012

Hello my name is Natia n I was diagnosed with this nasty sick looking disease as well lichen planus has went from my breast down to the bottom of my feet I didnt no what it was I was sooo scared to be seen. It started in july 2011 didnt c dermo til mid sept 2011 but a friend seen it n was in shocked so he said use chamomile loction and I did n it dried it out alot but wen I got to the dermo they looked at me n said omg. So dey did a biopsy and diagnosed me with l. P. And the gave me mertronidazole. And I took 500mg twice a day for 30days n it was gone but the marks was there n started to fade. And its all over my body I dont think a man wants to look at me n I'm 30yrs old single with two sons.. So any way june 2012 its back- its on my feet in im jus praying to god that I dont suffer like last yr cus it messes with my mental smh so now I'm back on the mertro pills again and tryna change my diet cus from what I'm reading I c def no suger. Well I also need support n a cure so we need ppl to do more research on this n its prob one small thing that can kill this disease.. Well if we keep praying hard enough god will hear our crys.. Anyone can help me plz call I'm desperate at this point 518-271-1347 thx natia shim:(


Baking Soda and Borax
Posted by Monique (Bronx, Ny) on 12/23/2013

To Natia, I have LP as well. Mine are the size of quarters and they are all over my body except for my face. I'm 48 yrs old can't wear shorts or dresses anymore. When I do wear short sleeve shirts people stare at me. I know that my skin is ugly but I am a VERY BEAUTIFUL PERSON IN THE INSIDE. I know that it's hard to look at sometimes but don't give up OK. If you ever need to talk to someone email me at bigmo2799 (at) yahoo (dot)com. Remember, you are not alone we will get through this!! KEEP YOUR HEAD UP HIGH!



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