20+ years ago I was diagnosed and treated for Hep C. At the end of my treatment, tests still showed infection, and that it would most likely come back years later. After starting a regimen of ALA, NAC, Milk Thistle and Selenium I no longer show any infection - and the "professionals" said testing would always show an infection, even if my viral load level was below 10 (it was over 1 millions when I started treatment).
I still take these supplements today and have recently added Sam-E. Don't know if it would work for everyone, but it sure worked for me!
Why wouldn't we use milk thistle in a treatment plan? This has always been a great product for liver health.
When I was young about 17 or 18 I was partying hard and had a lot of fun, a little too much if you ask me.
Anyway fast forward to today. I ended up getting hep c virus from doing drugs. I had the virus for about 22 years. I am clean and sober now days but If I had half a brain when was younger well you know. As soon as I found out that I had hep c I gave up drinking, alcohol speeds up the replication of the virus.
I started taking bht 250 mg. Anyway I take it twice a day morning and at night 250 mg for a total of 500 mg.
Started bht in 2017. I started to feel better inside and out. I was able to get up off my couch and do things and was not sleeping my life away. My doctor wanted to check my hcv blood levels.
I just got the results back. quantitative test is 343,000 qualitative was Undetected Doctors usually consider a viral load over 800,000 IU/ml as high. A low viral load would be less than 800,000 IU/ml. If a quantitative test indicates undetectable viral particle levels, but the qualitative test detects HCV, it means that a person has extremely low levels of HCV in the bloodstream.
The numbers are looking very good and I will keep up with my bht treatment. I am not taking anything else but D3 and Calcium and zinc.
I take zinc to boost my immune system. Also I read online that drinking coffee will help your liver function better and it stops the hep c virus from replicating. Also when I feel a cold coming on I take some vitamin c. Almost forgot the most important thing to take, drink lot's of water.
I just wanted to say hang in there everyone.
Like Pandora's post below from 8/5/2015, same thing with me. I went from 7.5 million in 2016 to 500,000 viral load 7 months ago. This month I'm at 1.5 million. I've been doing the BHT, Monolauren pellets and other supplements for years and I'm still hep c positive. Harvony and Viekira didn't work.
BTW, I didn't take BHT on an empty stomach and I've been taking too much Vitamin E. My mistake and I think I may have been my own worst enemy. Do yourself a favor and get plenty of choline in your diet.
Thanks for the reply. I've read all his posts and could find the answers. Not Exactly. That's why I posted here. I've searched the Internet and you know how that goes... you find something and then you find something else claiming the exact opposite. If anyone here has the answers, I'd really appreciate it. I'd like to continue treatment but I want to make sure I'm not doing something that could damage the liver. I'd also like to know if I can take bht along with my lipoic acid/milk thistle. Oscar said not to but I'd like to know why.
Oscar from Syracuse, NY was our BHT specialist for Viral Hepatitis for many years, but stopped replying to posts a few years ago. At that point (I believe in 2015) he was very ill from surviving a gunshot wound to his stomach in the Vietnam War, and also tired of people questioning his BHT treatment. He was harassed on different forums about his BHT treatment for years, according to emails he sent us. However, he did successfully use BHT for at least 20 years for Hepatitis, so I suggest you read all of his posts on Earth Clinic's 3 hep pages here:
I am sure you will find answers among the posts on Earth Clinic that date back as far as 2008.
Best to you, Deirdre
I've read about how BHT can be toxic to the liver. How can someone take it for hep c if it hurts the liver? I've discontinued my treatment until I find out. Also, some say to take BHT aa a stand alone treatment and to not take it with milk thistle but I'd like to know WHY. I'm doing the Alpha Lipolic Acid and milk thistle regime but I'd like to continue with BHT as soon as I get these questions answered. Thank you in advance.
In 1997, I contracted Hep C from transfusions. Early the next year I finally found the identification of a vine I'd found in the deep woods years before. It is Schizandra glabra (the American species, not chinensis, the Asian species). I read that the Chinese use their species to treat hepatitis, so I started eating the berries/seeds daily, by the handful. I picked and froze a few quarts for a few months' supply. A month later, I found Milk Thistle seeds and added them, about a teaspoon powdered, twice a day. Three months later my hepatologist said there was "not a viral body to be found". I have been Hep C free ever since.
Chris, I think it's so funny that you agree with yourself as it seems you're commenting on a comment you made in May of 2017. I've been taking monolauren for about a year. You must not take supplemental vitamin E. The reason is that it causes the protective lipid layer on the bacterium or virus to strengthen, thereby not allowing the immune system access in order to destroy the pathogen. Vitamin C may have a similar effect. Monolauren cured my nail fungus and I'm very happy with that.
My viral load went from 7800000 to 750000 as of July, 2018. That's significant. Since then I've added BHT to my diet. I hope the info. on Vitamin E was helpful.
BHT, Colloidal Silver, Echinacea
I have seen a post where he took colloidal silver for 3 months and killed all of his Hepitatis C virus. Anyone using only colloidal silver?
Mercola has an article https://foodfacts.mercola.com/onion.html that says onions have greater antioxidant and antimutagenic activity than BHT. If anyone wants to test their hepatitis status against onion I would be curious to know the result.
I agree, I think the Monolaurin and Bio-Fibrin is a total waste of time and money. I also took it for over a year and no improvement whatsoever. I might consider the BHT for my next round of treatment.
Alpha Lipoic Acid
How much colloidal silver did you take daily?
I want to start off by saying hello. I need everyone to know how much I appreciate all the information that everyone has provided. I am new to this forum and I came here to learn, I stayed up all night reading and reaearching and early this morning I ordered the BHT that is recommended. It will be in Thursday.
I was diagnosed this past September. I am a young female, in my early 30s, at 160 pounds. What prompted my dr visit was severe nausea, some vommiting and sometimes severe lower abdominal cramping. I had scheduled a "female" visit, to get the full workup, expecting fibroids or something to that effect. I was diagnosed with Hep C and went on to have lots of blood work done, I will double check but I believe my genotype is 1A and I will get back with you guys on my levels. I've had them ran twice. I did not have insurance and was being seen at a free clinic. Things work really slow at free clinics. It was recomended that I have an abdominal ultrasound, and now here in late October I am still awaiting their referral. I went and got a better job and now have good insurance but I am still playing the waiting game with these doctors. I still have cramping. I still have nausea. I have decided to give this thing a go all by myself, starting probably Friday and will continue to have blood work to check my levels.
If Oscar or anyone is still here these days, I would love a response. Thanks very much. Julia
EC: Hi Julia,
Oscar doesn't post on the EC forum anymore except perhaps once a year, sorry!
Did you contract it through work as a nurse? Did you have any lab work while taking the oil? What about any symptoms from taking the oil? Thanks.
HI, thank you for sharing I have hep c and I will love to know how much of peroxide you put in your bath and how much of the other things to and how often, how much of collodial silver and the IV it was of vit c and B and hi inject the peroxide to...because this will kill the virus...please say more about your treateme, more specific, I feel something good about it. thank you Maria
Becca and Ted, I know this is years later from the original post. But, here goes. I have hep c and myeloma cancer, some research shows a causal relation. There are now the "miracle" drugs Harvoni and Epclusa costing $110,000/3 month cycle. What I'm wondering is do you still think H2O2 can knock out Hep C and avoid the expense and maybe agony of Harvoni? Thanks again for all the benefit I have gained thru the years from Earth Clinic!
I tried just 2 drops 3% this morning and clearly felt better after just an hour. God Bless, hope to hear from you.
I tried Monolaurin along with the Bio-Fibrin to help break down the Fibrin scar tissue. I took the regimen for 12 + months and never had any improvement in my liver enzymes ect. Was a waste of money. I am thinking about trying the BHT and hope it works.
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Interesting... I would like to avoid cardiac damage common to promoted medical treatments. If you don't mind could you provide a link to the synthesis?
Hepatitis C and Prescription Drugs
Take the Chinese herbal formula called San Huang Xie Xin Tang. It will cure you to negative.
My iron level is normal, platelet count was 70 and ferritin was 1100. I've been going to a clinic in Matamoros Mexico and they charge me $24 each visit to remove one pint of blood. $20 for a liver panel, $10 for ferritin. VL is $350. I opted for the liver panel and ferritin test. After 8 treatments, my ferritin was down to 375 and alt and ast was down by half. I attribute the rapid drop of ferritin to my using Dr. Bergs wheatgrass juice powder. If you have genetic hemochromatosis take clean chlorella instead of the wheatgrass juice powder because of the iron content.
I need to know if coq10 protects the lipid coated hep c virion like vitamin E. Does anyone know?
I've been taking BHT treatment for 6 weeks. 250mg and 500mg 12 hours apart. Keep in mind I have already done 12 weeks Harvoni with no evidence of cure. Then I was prescribed 12 weeks Viekera with the same results. During these treatments I was not told to not take large doses of vitamin E . I was taking 400 plus I.U. per day. Given that this link suggests that vitamin e protects the lipid coated hep c viron from immune system attack, it may well explain why my Harvoni and viekera treatments were unsuccessful.
So I've been taking BHT without the large supplement regimen. My last liver panel showed 50% increase in ALT and AST levels. Since my ferritin level was 900. After a 1000 one's chance of getting cancer goes up 20 to 200 fold. I was taking 500mg IP-6 3x/day. Could be toxic to a compromised liver (hep c 1a ) viral load 7500000. contracted 1971. I'm going to try MONOLAUREN. I was bruising very easily after taking less than 200mg c. I now take 5 to 10 grams california gold 1000mg caps Qualli-c. WOW, good stuff. No runnies.
Going to take lysine, chanca piedra, lapoic acid, nac, d3, k2, colodial silver, coral calcium for increasing ph, magnesium malate, selenium and a high quality multiple.
I'm 63, walk an hour every day and work out at the gym twice a week. I take citrulline to prevent the stink of ammonia away. A doctor would prescribe lactalose but that stuff will give you the runnies. I consume an average of 90 grams protein so I have to take the citrulline because of a cirrhotic liver.
Most chronic illnesses require much time & effort for a real cure, and is especially the case with natural remedies, so don't fall for the error of instant cures and magic bullets.
I have chronic active viral hep and so my treatments are ongoing and maybe one day kill the viral completely. In my experience, BHT is as effective as any remedy but does have limitations. So, I now take once daily approx. 300mg BHT and wait one hr and take 2 caps of ether St John'sWort or Echinacea extract. This combination does a double whammy and success rates or cure are increased for myself.
Also much more treatment options and information at www.liversupport.com
Sovaldi, Olysio and Ribavirin Treatment
Skywatcher, please start low and slow.
Sovaldi, Olysio and Ribavirin Treatment
I did the harvoni, unsuccessful. Next was the viekira. That didn't work either. After these treatments I developed type 2 diabetes, abnormally slow heartbeat that misses, lowered white cell count and very low platelet count. If I go through one more treatment, successful or not, a liver transplant will be required. I've been hep c positive 44 years. I fell for the TV ad. I'm going to try BHT. Wish me luck all>
I wanted to thank OSCAR and RE INPHRASE FOR ALL HCV diagnosed ones. I GOT CURED with BHT. I took it for one year. Was reported on 2012... It is 2016 now, and I just did my last exam as as check up. It reports as non detectable until nowadays and I have stopped taking BHT. I wish I could shout for the whole world.
Hi everyone! I just wanna share how bht work on my hcv( hepatitis c virus) I am a Filipina and working here in Kuwait I was diagnosed with hcv last August 25 2015 when I went through the medical exam that support my working visa in Kuwait. I feel down and didn't believe how I got this virus.. I've done my medical exam twice with the same results that I had hcv. From then I start searching online how and what treatment should I do, until I read this bht all about.. But unfortunately I can't find bht in the Philippines so I order online last September 13 2015 and it's from Illinois...I just received it September 30 2015 and start taking it in the morning without taking food, like what I had read..October 28 2015 I decided to do hcv test and the result is negative. Then again I went manila to report in the agency and November 3, 2015 I had the complete medical exam again and the result is just the same. Its non reactive..God is great! And thanks to Oscar! November 11 2015 I left Philippines...and working here in Kuwait..
Hey Dan and to all who replied. After a 40 + year battle I had the opportunity to try Harvoni in the spring of last year. I was prescribed an 8 week course (being treatment naïve and having a viral load of 5.5 mil. , ast of 249 and alt of 160). Now, at 9 months post treatment ast and alt levels within range(normal) and hep c virus undetected. Not really a fan of big pharma but this did work. Extremely expensive but thankfully my insurance covered the cost.
Sorry for the immense delay in replying. I have had a hectic time in my personal life. I will keep this brief for the moment then post something more detailed if people are interested.
I was diagnosed as HCV (Hepatitis C Virus) about 6 months ago. Since then I have been taking BHT religously. I also adhere to a very strict diet and exercise regimen. I take other supplements too. Today my gastroenterologist informed me that I my HCV test was negative. In other words the viral load is undetectable. He did not pass on any other information than that. Oscar was correct all along. BHT works.
Hi Oscar, do you not recommend vitamin research vitamins, as you did a year or so ago...thank you, Lana
Where is Jay?
I have been diagnosed with Hep C since January. I have been worried as the Liver Doctor advised me that I might have developed to Cirrhosis stage after two liver scans and after I told him I was feeling asleep when eating proteins such as white rice and chicken.
He wanted me to have a live biopsy in October 2015 which I cancelled after I found two natural cures websites for hep c and I started to consume natural juices from one of the sites, and it seems I am a bit better as I don't feel tired much as before after meal. But I still feel tired when I'm awake in the morning. I am still worried about my liver damages caused by HCV. My mouth has been sore for months without knowing that I have had HCV. I believe it is caused by toxidation of liver; so in the morning I have a glass of water with lemon as advised on one of the websites - my mouth sore has gone straight away. I have tried to eat lots of antioxidant vegetables such as tomatoes, and onions every day to see if that will improve.
I am due to see my Liver Doctor in three weeks, and hope my liver condition is better so that he could test my liver to give some treatments to kill HCV.
I ll post a message here just before I see my doctor to see if any progress of my liver.
Best wishes, Thon
Please buy a book called Dr. Yourself by Saul ..there you will find the cure for hep c with large amounts of vitamin c. the best book you will ever buy. Thank you and shalom! Alan
Monolaurin, Lactoferrin, Garlic and Milk Thistle
I cured myself of Hepatitis C by taking Monolaurin, 1,800mg daily, in combination with lactoferrin, extra high allicin garlic tablet 500 mg, and 3 milk thistle fruit capsules 450mg each daily.
My viral load levels reduced over 6 months and I was clear in 1 year..had tests over last 6 years..all..did not want to go down interferon etc route ...I contracted virus through blood transfusion 30 years ago in U.K.
Where is Jay???
Hi Shelby, Gee, Sorry to learn of your injury. Sounds like a bad one. I was injured very badly in the Vietnam war and never have gotten over it. I still have a lot of metal fragments in me and it hurts. Try hard not to get hurt. I do.
As far storing the BHT goes: Store it in the container it came in with a packet of that stuff that keeps things dry. A desicant, a drying agent, like YOU suggested. But do NOT use a glass jar. Light and especially sunlight can and will degrade any supplement out there I can think of.
Your cupboard or a dresser drawer should be adequate as a place to store those plastic bottles BHT comes in. This is an important issue you brought up: How best to store the different supplements including BHT.
As far as testing goes: I suggest getting tested once a month. We need to find out and track how well the treatment is working and track the hoped for progress. If the treatment is not working we need to know that also.
Shelby, I want you to know: There are some very good NEW DRUGS available for treating hepatitis C. This happened within the last year or so. They are expensive but they do work. Also, you might be eligible for government assistance in paying for said new drugs. I think you would be because of this injury you suffered. Ask your doctor about that someone at a Social Security office.
But for right now lets give the BHT treatment a try and lets see if we can get the treatment working the way it is supposed to work. You have shown significant progress with the BHT mixture. I am hoping using the unmixed BHT treatment will work much better for you. That is what worked for me and many others also....Oscar
I took BHT for 3 months in 2014 and my viral load decreased from 1.5MM to 1MM. I was really hopeful. I took BHT for a year every day and when I got my viral load count this month its at 2.6MM. I am done with natural cures and am going with Harvoni this year.
New Drugs for Hep C
I have tried all natural holistic medicines for hep c ie: olive leaf, miracle mineral solution, bht, massive doses of vit c, b etc, iv's of hydrogen peroxide vit c and r-alpha lipoic acid all to no avail. Killing the virus doesn't work because it will mutate or go into hiding and come out stronger. The new drugs work ie: Harvoni by stopping the replicating process of the cv. I am on 12 week program with 4 weeks to go and have been non detected since 6 weeks previous viral load was 8.5 million. Harvoni is miracle drug we've all been praying for.
Thank you very much for your prompt reply, and, yes, the BHT/ascorbyl palmitate mixture is apparently the product from Pearson and Shaw. I just looked at the bottle closely, and, sure enough, in extremely small red print, it says "Durk Pearson & Sandy Shaw's" above the boldly printed name "BHT Plus". I was not familiar with their names or their book until you wrote me about it. (As I wrote before, I took that form because that was all my health food store carried.)
I just ordered BHT 250mg from Lifelinks over the phone. Thank you so very much for that recommendation. The man who took my order was very nice and said it should be here in two days. I will begin taking 250 mg with water only on an empty stomach once daily as soon as it arrives.
I do have one concern. The Lifelinks product contains 500 capsules which will last 500 days taking one a day. (My old product with 100 capsules and my taking 4 a day only lasted 25 days). With the new product, I am concerned as to how to store it for such a long time. I don't want the BHT to somehow lose potency by being exposed to air and or moisture--I live by the water and it is very damp in my apartment. Perhaps I should take out a month's worth at a time and keep the bulk of the capsules in a sealed glass jar (perhaps with a desiccant). In fact, my old product had a little package of desiccant in the bottle. I'm sorry to trouble you with such a tedious question, but I have never experienced storing a supplement for so long, and I would like to preserve it as best I can.
Again, thank you so much for your response. I now have new hope that the switch to the BHT-only treatment will have positive results. I was in a bike accident resulting in a shattered shoulder and thus a 3-hour operation (including a bone graft) on July 1st. It is the worst injury I have ever had and I am in a tremendous amount of pain. The only bright spot in this horrible ordeal is my communication with you. Being bed-ridden, my friend, who is good at chemistry, has been acting as caregiver and giving me my BHT every day. He questioned the efficacy of the "mixture" as soon as he read the ingredients on the bottle. (I had erroneously thought that the ascorbyl palmitate was simply adding a little extra Vitamin C to my regimen.) Once I was alerted to the possibility that the ascorbyl palmitate could be a problem, I immediately wanted to ask you, and, luckily, my friend is also a computer expert, so he was able to help me communicate with you. I have wanted to communicate with you since late 2013, so I feel very fortunate to finally be able to do. The horrendous accident, major surgery and painful recovery have been awful, but, ironically, it has resulted in new hope for me as far as the Hep C goes.
One last question, once I have started the 250 mg daily dose, how long should I wait to go and have my viral load tested?
Dear Shelby [ San Francisco, California ], Gee, where do I start here? The good news is the " BHT mixture " you are using did seem to cure the herpes infection. Is this the Pearson and Shaw product? It does seem to work very well for a herpes infection from what you stated. Just so you know: Pearson and Shaw never promoted BHT as a cure for a viral hepatitis infection unless they changed their minds about that after they published their book: " The Life Extension Companion " back in 1984. They promoted BHT as a treatment for the herpes viruses in that book. That book is where I first read about BHT.
I do think that this BHT mixture you discussed is NOT as effective as taking BHT by itself for a hepatitis C infection. The ways that BHT is digested when mixed with any fats or lipids is very different than when it is taken by itself with water only. This is discussed in many of the WHO [ World Health Organization ] BHT toxicology reports and there are many said reports.
In my opinion based on many years of discussing this treatment with many people and my own experience with using BHT to treat both hepatitis C and B, taking BHT with water only on an empty stomach is the way to use this treatment for best results. But I need to also caution you by saying BHT is more potent when using this method. For a person who weighs 125 pounds or less the 250mg of BHT per day is about the right amount. Some people can tolerate more and some less. This dosage issue is a tricky one. Age is also a factor. After about age 60 my tolerance for BHT started to go down. I am 66 now and weigh about 185 at this time.
Anyway, these are things to keep in mind. So if you want my opinion start using the 250mg capsules of BHT with water only on an empty stomach and lets see if that works for you. LifeLinks sells a good brand from what people tell me at the 250mg of BHT dosages. It is time for you to knock this infection out. And if it can be done with the BHT great. If it does not work then it is time to look into the NEW DRUGS now available. I know they are expensive, but I thought the health care system in the USA helped pay for said treatments. I really do NOT know about that. This is an issue your doctor should be able to answer.
In conclusion: Give the " BHT ONLY " treatment a try and lets see if you can knock that viral load count down or not. You have shown a gradual but somewhat slow response to the BHT treatment. Lets see if you can do a lot better using BHT only with water on an empty stomach. Link to" LifeLinks " 250mg capsules of BHT here:
Please post results here in this forum....Oscar
I am a petite 115-120 pound woman. I was diagnosed with Hepatitis C type 1a in 2006; my viral load was 1,001,530; AST:53; ALT:99. (I believe I contracted it in 1998.)
On 12/12/2012 my viral load was 5,450,000; AST:45; ALT:99.
On 12/04/2013 my viral load was 8,980,000; AST:45; ALT: 95.
In January 2014 I started taking two BHT 180 mg with ascorbyl palmitate 80mg capsules (BHT Plus) on an empty stomach for a total of 360 mg BHT twice daily (720 mg/day).
On January 9,2015 my viral load was 1,990,000; AST:58; ALT:103.
I am concerned about the form of BHT I take because it contains ascorbyl palmitate which is apparently a fat soluble form of Vitamin C. I'm worried that the antioxidant effects of the ascorbyl palmitate might hamper some of the antiviral effects of the BHT. I take that form because it is the only form of BHT that my health food store and my on-line vitamin company carry.
I ordered a different brand on the internet (from Vitamin Research Products) containing BHT 350 mg, but when I opened the bottle, the strange smell of the capsules scared me. The smell was a strong, unpleasant chemical smell. I don't know if BHT normally has a smell, but the BHT with ascorbyl palmitate has virtually no smell so I stuck with that after smelling the terrible odor of the other brand.
Thank you, Oscar, for the information about BHT. I was so hopeless for so long. Finding your posts in late 2013 brought hope back into my life. By the way, the horrendous Herpes outbreaks I used to suffer have miraculously disappeared since being on the BHT. However, as I said, I still wonder about the efficacy of the product containing ascorbyl palmitate for the Hep C, and I am not sure I am taking the right dose. I am willing to try a different form of the BHT without the ascorbyl palmitate on your recommendation. And, does BHT normally have a strong smell?
Dear Jay, You are on your own with this monolaurin. You asked my opinion about monolaurin as an antiviral. My opinion based on what is written about it only: Is that monolaurin is a powerful antiviral all by itself. The same is true of BHT. And that they both do essentually the same thing: Strip away those lipid coatings that encase the many different lipid coated viruses when they exist as virons in the bloodstream only.
I am concerned that you might be overdoing it. If ANY adverse effects are experienced cut back on one or both of what are two different treatments. I have NEVER tried the monolaurin and for that reason cannot be relied on for help with dosage issues when both treatments are being used or monolaurin by itself for that matter.
It is my big hope that reach undetectable and fast. Please get yourself tested soon. You may very well be UNDETECTABLE already.
Then it is a matter of coming up with dosages you can tolerate for about 2 years. I am thinking once you get to undetectable it will be advisable to lower one or both of those dosages.
Once I got to undetectable: In about 4 weeks with the BHT alone: I was only using 350mg of BHT per day.
Now, Mike " twodragunns " did get to: A NEGATIVE test result with the hepatitis C ANTIBODIES test in somewhat less than one year using the 250mg of BHT twice a day = 500mg of BHT per day with water only on an empty stomach as reported here in this forum. And it did take me more than one year to get there using the 350mg of BHT per day in one dosage. I do not know how long it took me to get there.
And please keep in mind my position on all this: If adverse reactions to the BHT treatment occur ALWAYS take LESS. And if you or any other person chooses to use both the monolaurin treatment along with the BHT treatment the same is true for the monolaurin: If adverse reactions occur ALWAYS take less.
Careful dosing is required with these treatments and any and all treatments as far as that goes.
Please get that viral load count test and lets see where you are at right now. Also: those liver function tests are very important and not at all expensive. They only cost about 30 dollars US and that way you can know with some certainty how your liver function is tolerating the now two different treatments.
I preach this testing stuff over and over. It is the only way I know of to get an honest picture of what is going on inside of you....Oscar
My new regimen is as follows:
- BHT 500mg/day
- Vitamin C 1000mg/day
- Multi-Vitamin/Mineral (Centrum one a day)
- Monolaurin 1100 mg/day.
Thanks as always, Oscar!
Hi Jay, I know of NO reason why monolaurin would negatively impact the BHT treatment. It is a lipid. What is unusual about monolaurin is that it has only one hydrocarbon so called " tail " as opposed to the usual two and sometimes three tail groups.
See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolaurin. So yes to monolaurin if you wish to use it. I use olive oil myself as a useful foodstuff. Olive oil is a mixture of many different lipids.
Just do NOT mix the BHT with the monolaurin when taking it. Wait an hour or more. BHT should be used by itself with water only for best results in my opinion. That is because BHT with water only is digested in a very different way than BHT mixed in any vegetable oil [ lipids ].
As mentioned before I intend to keep my protocol simple. However I was thinking of adding monolaurin due to it's powerful anti-viral properties. I have also read that it is a good candidate for use with BHT. What is your current thinking regarding this supplement and its use with BHT?
Once again thanks for your prompt answers and invaluable information. I have indeed poured over every single post on this site regarding Hepatitis C. So I realize that an undetectable reading is simply an indication that the disease is contained but not yet cured. I lead a VERY disciplined life so it certainly wont be a problem to continue the treatment on a 100% basis until I am fully cured. There is always a temptation to add other things but in this case the BHT is proving so effective that I do not see a reason to. I fully intend to keep the protocol simple.
I have increased the dosage to 500mg per day and do not have any side effects. Apart from the improved breathing and clearer eyes, my sleep has also improved. I have been sleeping clear through the night now, whereas before I would often wake up at least once. This is after approximately 2 weeks on BHT.
I will of course keep the forum informed of my progress. Any news, either good or bad, will be reported. I hope that my experience will help others.
Dear Jay [ London ]: Well, it is a relief for me to work with someone who provides timely responses and answers my questions.
As I stated: My guidelines as to dosage are rough ones. There are a number of factors that go into what a proper dosage of BHT is. These include:
1. body weight.
2. fat content of said body weight.
4. overall health condition.
5. any and all other health problems.
6. any and all other medications a given person is taking.
7. the overall health of the liver. Cirrhosis of the liver does make the BHT treatment more difficult for example.
In all ways you seem to be a very good candidate for success with the BHT treatment. The ONLY problem you seem to be dealing with is a hepatitis C infection. And your positive response to this treatment is no surprise to me for those reasons.
Now living in London I do assume you should qualify for the different liver tests. Jay you can help yourself a lot by having those liver function tests done. They really do not cost very much. And when possible a VIRAL LOAD count test is very important. That test costs about 300 dollars US.
The first goal is to reach UNDETECTABLE with said viral load count tests. This usually takes about a month or so depending on how infected your liver is with hepatitis C. That does NOT mean you are CURED. What it does mean is that the BHT treatment is working the way it is supposed to work. The BHT is readily destroying those virus particles in the bloodstream as they occur as a result of infected liver cells dumping hepatitis C virons into the bloodstream in what is called a cellular burst. An infected liver cell literally bursts dumping a very many HCV virons into the bloodstream any one of which can infect a non-infected liver cell.
Now stay with me about this. Many doctors even get this wrong:
Your average liver cell lives about 200 days. Unlike most organs: The liver is constantly producing brand new liver cells. So, if you get to: UNDETECTABLE in that blood count test you are preventing any uninfected liver cells from becoming infected with the HCV virus. BUT, you still have a very many infected liver cells that will infect uninfected liver cells if you stop the BHT treatment. Therefore, you NEED to continue the BHT treatment for NO LESS than two years after you achieve UNDETECTABLE. It is the antibodies test that shows a TRUE CURE. When you test NEGATIVE with the HCV antibodies test you are CURED and not until then. Just to be very sure I would continue with the BHT treatment for at least one more year to make very sure there are no infected liver cells remaining AFTER you test negative with that HCV antibodies test.
I will state: A very many people get an UNDETECTABLE result with that HCV blood count test and then RELAPSE with whatever treatment. Do you understand what I am trying to explain ? The importance of continued BHT treatment after UNDETECTABLE is achieved in what is ONLY a blood test? And NOT a test of or about infected liver cells. Am I being clear enough about that for you to understand me? ...Oscar
Firstly thanks for your encouraging words and all that you do to help people on this forum! My current bodyweight is around 150lbs at 5'10". So I am very lean due to my athletic background. I will increase the dosage as you suggested and report my results back to the forum in a week. Again thank you so much for your invaluable work!
Dear Jay [ London ]: This is great news Jay. You have been on the BHT for one week and that clearing up of your eyes is an indication of a return to normal or healthy liver function.
But my recommendation for people who weigh over 125 pounds to 200 pounds is two 250mg of BHT per day = 500mg of BHT per day.
These are rough guidelines based on years of feedback.
So, because you tolerate BHT well and have shown improvement go to two 250mg of BHT capsules per day = 500mg of BHT per day. If any problems occur drop back to only 250mg of BHT per day.
How much do you weigh Jay, in pounds please ?
You seem to be a rapid responder to or with the BHT treatment. I want to see you knock this infection out and fast the way I did.
You are doing it the way I did. Being careful and all that. But, once I knew I was safe taking BHT I did double the dosage to two 250mg capsules per day = 500mg of BHT per day. I want to see you get well and fast....Oscar
How much of each?
I am at the end of my first week of using BHT. I upped the dosage from half a capsule to one capsule this morning. My breathing again became noticeably clearer. Also my eyes seemed brighter, that is the whites of the eyes were clearer. I felt that my vision had improved. I haven't felt this good for some time. My first visit to my specialist doctor is on July 16th. So there is still some time before I see what my blood work shows.
I will keep the forum updated on a weekly basis till then. I plan to continue with my one morning capsule of BHT. I should also mention that I have very low bodyfat due to my training. It is around 7% at the moment. So one capsule a day should suffice based on Oscar's previous advice.
Dear Jay [ London ], Thank you for your timely updates on your experience with the use of BHT to treat hepatitis C.
Just so you and other interested people know: A rapid improvement in overall health is not at all unusual. That is what happened for me many others. There are also those who have reported negative side effects. So you have to use care with this treatment.
So, at least for now: You have no problem tolerating BHT and have noticed an improvement in your health. Of course this is good news. Please keep this forum updated with any and all blood test results.
And the vitamin C seems to work well with the BHT treatment.
Your updates are appreciated. Feedback, good or bad is important for ALL the treatments discussed in this important forum. Again, Thank You, ...Oscar
I wanted to report my first use of BHT to the forum. I took 125mg before I went to sleep. There were no side effects and I had no issues going to sleep. Upon rising I took a further 250mg on an empty stomach. I then proceeded to the gym for my regular aerobic workout. I noticed that I was able to breath a little more easily than normal when working out. It was a good first sign. Later in the day I took a multi-vitamin followed by a high dosage vitamin C. There have been no negative side effects to report following my first usage of BHT. If anything it has been positive so far :)
I am posting here for the first time. I was diagnosed with Hep C on 06/10/2015. It was, of course a shock to me, as I am generally in very good health. I do not have a viral load number but my ALT is 35 and AST is 40. I have an appointment with a specialist in 5 weeks. I assume that they will perform tests to get further information I.e genotype, viral load etc. Anyway upon receiving this news I immediately started researching cures and stumbled across this forum. I ordered a bottle of BHT.. It is due to arrive in a couple of days. I intend to post extremely detailed results on a monthly basis to document my progress on this regimen. I will also keep people posted on any good or bad side effects that I have once I begin BHT.
Has anyone ever heard or had H2o2 IV therapy for HepC?
New Drugs for Hep C
Dear Id form [ Edmonton, Alberta ]: Thank you for posting this life saving information. There are also some other new drugs with equally impressive results as treatments for hepatitis C.
Yes these treatments are expensive. But $60,000 to $ 75,000 dollars US is NOT all that much if it saves your life.
These NEW drugs are saving people's lives....Oscar
Dear Tobique [ Canada ]: My ONLY concern is your well being. I have NO self interest in promoting this BHT treatment. These NEW hepatitis C drugs DO work very well from ALL the reports I have read. Said treatments are very expensive right now. But those prices will go DOWN as time goes by.
For right now: You are holding up well coping with this hepatitis C infection with the use of BHT. Your liver function is at least close to normal. And your viral load count has pretty much remained the same at 3.7 million or there abouts. That is on the low side of the medium range. One million or less is considered the low range and ten million or more is considered in the high range.
These results are as good as they are. Of course you want WAY BETTER than that. You want to be truly CURED of hepatitis C.
So for right now: You are telling me these new treatments are at this time NOT available to you. That could change in a few years and in my opinion probably will change as the price goes down on these new treatments.
You asked me about iron rich foods. My answer is that excessive amounts of iron do STRESS the liver. So do avoid imbibing EXCESSIVE amounts of IRON.
It is still possible that with some careful adjustment of your diet and supplement intake we can tip the balance and get the desired results with the BHT treatment.
Another important thing you can do is to make sure you drink plenty of quality water. I recommend distilled water. One thing to keep in mind is: The more dehydrated a person becomes, the more concentrated those hepatitis C virons become in your blood. Being dehydrated also DECREASES the BHT metabolites ability to READILY seek out those lipid coated viruses in a person`s blood.
So, in conclusion: Drink distilled water whenever you feel thirsty and cut back on excessive amounts of Iron rich foods and lets see if we can get this BHT treatment working the way it is supposed to work. Hopefully we can tip the balance point you seemed to have reached and achieve a CRASH in that viral load count with the use of BHT ...Oscar
New Drugs for Hep C
I finish my 12 wk course of Harvoni in the first week of June. I started with a viral load of 359,000 in the first week of March. My viral load was 27 (yep...that is correct) in the first week of April. I will do another test the first week of June . The definitive answer to see if the virus has been cured will happen 12 wks after the final dose in the first week of September.
The company (Gilead) that produced the drug Harvoni initially listed minor side effects: headache, nausea & insomnia. They have now updated their site to reflect some lessor known side effects that I personally have experienced. My worst side effects occurred after the first week which I contributed to being healthier than most people in this program. At the current time my side effects are: severe congestion, bloat & easily tired. All worth it if I am cleared of this virus that I got from tainted blood during a surgery in 1976 when Bill Clinton, president of the blood board at that time, approved blood donations from prisoners in Arkansas...what?
I have been mostly organic with lots of supplements so I have not been as sick as most people that have had Hep C this long with viral counts in the millions.
If you are trying to decide whether or not to take this drug which costs about $75,000 for a 3 month course ( my insurance company: manulife covered it...bless this company for doing this) I would strongly advise this treatment as it is only 1 pill per day with or without food, with or without alcohol so your lifestyle does not have to change.
I hope this helps someone who is undecided. I will let you know if I am cleared in September.
The way the numbers were explained was. 3.7E+6 would be interpreted this way 3.7 move the decimal to the right six places. so 3700000.
Yes, there are new treatments but from what I understand only available if you have liver damage to a certain level. My liver biopsy show no liver scaring, so I am not covered and would have to pay the thousands of dollars to cover the new treatments my self which I can not afford. I have talked with one of the researchers and he said if the BHT is successful he would be considering do a study on it, a low cost cure for hep c is what is needed. That's one of the reasons I need it to work.
As for BHT, I have been consistantly taking it since I started, I have seen the huge drop in viral load and was wandering why the slight increase in viral load. Could it be from an increase in iron rich food?
Dear Tobique [ Canada ]: I do NOT know what these " E units are ". Does E=one million or not ? Wikipedia says: Gaviscon is " alginic acid ". A much smaller compound than that other compound you discussed. So give it a try and lets see what happens.
Also: There are totally new treatments available for hepatitis C. These new treatments are much safer and more effective than the old interferon+this that and another thing.
Has your doctor discussed these new treatments with you? You live in Canada so these new treatments should be available to you.
You have tried the BHT with mixed results. Perhaps it is time to look into these newly available drugs....Oscar
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Colloidal Silver: how much to take every day for hep.c?
I have had stomach problems high acid production since I was 21, ( I am 58) the rabeprozole is to control this. The hep c diagnosis was in 2011 . I weigh 190 pounds . winter is less active than summer, more sitting and the summer I am out side working 8 hours per day or more. I don't eat any thing with acid, so no grapefruit.
I feel no discomfort after taking the BHT.. If I take the 500 mg BHT at night before bed, and then second 500 mg dosage in the morning with the vitamin B-100 complex will it still be effective?
The DMG was to boost my immune system to fight the Hep C virus . I have found the old records to give you a better understanding on the numbers
A blood test in 2012 june, showed a viral load at 9.9E+6. I took BHT 1000 mg and DMG 250 MG and the first night my body felt cold inside, I couldn't get warm at all. but next day all was good. The coldness I was told was the body killing the virus, next testing
July 2013 Ast 54 ALT 91 was viral 4.83E+6
April 2014 AST 36 ALT 64 viral load 3.05E+6
May 2015 AST 42 ALT 61 viral load 3.7E+6
The first usage showed great promise. Now the numbers have stagnated I will try the split dosage . starting tonight and drop the acid reducer , and use " gaviscon " to control the acid unless that will affect the BHT. Thanks for your help.
Dear Tobique, [ Canada ]: You are taking too much BHT at one time. 1,000mg of BHT with water on an empty stomach is a LOT. This may be causing stomach problems. Are you having stomach pain? Is this why you take " rabeprazole " ?
How much do you weigh in pounds please?
The good news is you did have a very big improvement in liver function and are now close to normal in that regard.
You are pretty much holding fast on that viral load count. Of course that is not good enough and you want better.
So, split the dose of BHT into 2 separate dosages and you may be taking too much BHT.
Are you by any chance drinking grapefruit juice ? Grapefruit juice can and will degrade the BHT treatment.
Let`s try lowering the individual doses of BHT in hopes that any stomach problems will go away. I did look into what " rabeprozole " is and it is a fairly large molecule. Large enough to degrade the BHT treatment if it is combining with the BHT and the Dimethylglycine might be enhancing this effect.
Look: You are holding your own, not getting worse and your liver function is very much improved. I hope we can identify the problem and correct it. We want to see that viral load go down and fast. Hopefully a little fine tuning of the BHT treatment will make that difference....Oscar
I have been taking 1000 mg of BHT every night before bed on an empty stomach, I take nothing else , till next morning I take 10 mg rabeprazole vitamin b complex B-100 and 250 mg of DMG. its been a year and my hep c reading before AST 113 ALT 217 viral load 3.54 x10 to the 6th
After one year AST 42 ALT 61 viral load 3.7E+6 .
If I read the first reading for viral load correctly it was 3,540,000 and now it's 3,700,000. an increase, but the AST and ALT has been steadly decreasing.
What am I doing wrong?