Side Effects from Common Home Remedies

Magnesium

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Posted by Charlotte (Simpsonville, Sc) on 08/27/2012
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It has taken forever to come to learn that taking magnesium, regardless of what form, be it glycinate, gluconate, oxide, taurinate, etc. etc. will cause my mouth to burn and my tongue to swell. When I discontinue it, it takes a few days but it stops. It took me years to make this connection. Ted, could you possibly explain this? I would love to learn more about why this happens. For the record, I test high aldosterone/renin ratio and my bicarb is always significantly higher than chloride, though within normal range on tests. My understanding is aldo increases uptake of salt and calcium, my guess which stems from the aldo. Thought I would share the magnesium information as it pertains to me. I wish I would have read a review that would have got me to stop taking magnesium 5 years ago. Taking minerals without the whole group, ie a multi vitamin increases it potential for me also. Hope this helps someone clue in on the magnesium if they are regular uses for constipation, etc. Because that was why I started using it. I must say that I had debilitating menstral migraines and the magnesium stopped those, so double edge sword for me.

Replied by Huey
(Raleigh, Nc)
08/28/2012

Just curious, are you taking a pharmaceutical grade of magnesium or something you bought from a "big box" department store? I've noticed some inferior grades of supplements use fillers (like sawdust). You might inquire about a quality offering at your local health store (local not big box like VValgr&&ns or WrongAide). I started out using a brand at one time available only to healthcare practitioners.

Replied by Jennifer
(Edmundston, New Brunswick)
10/19/2012

Hi, I'm 27 years old and suffer from chronic insomnia and severe TMJ. I recently stumbled upon this site in my desperate search for relief. I haven't had any success with medication and devices/appliances for either condition. I have had chronic insomnia for the 9 or more years. I've tried about 7 or so different medications, but nothing seems to work. Concerning the TMJ, it has roughly the same timeframe. It started out with tension in my jaw and popping in my ears, but in the last 14 months my jaw has started locking closed by the time I woke up in the morning. The first time this happened it unlocked on its own about 6 hours after waking. The second time it locked and stayed locked for 4 months without unlocking at all. My dentist and various other appliances, TENS treatments and anti-inflammatories were unable to help. Out of everything it was the TENS sessions that gave the most relief, but only temporarily. It has since unlocked, but I continue to wake every morning with my jaw locked for the first hour after waking. I wear a custom splint, made to mimic my jaw in its most relaxed position after TENSing (a 1,200$ piece of acrylic) and I take 20 mg of flexeril every night before bed. I believe that both the insomnia and the tmj are related and both heavily affected by stress. I recently stopped all of my sleeping medications and started taking baking soda in water 3 times a day along with niacinamide at bed time and transdermal magnesium therapy in the form of "oil". The problem is that I feel worse than ever. I am sleeping better(ish) but my jaw, face, neck, shoulders and temples are throbbing. My head is pounding and I feel dizzy and flu like. It's been for the last 4 days about the day after I started these alternative treatments. Is this a normal response? Perhaps Herxheimer Reaction or something. Should I push forward or is this something that I should bring to the attention of my doctor. Any insight would be appreciated. Ted please if you have any input it would be appreciated. Thanks and sorry for the long unorganized rant.

Replied by Juliette
(Reston, Va)
10/22/2012

Hello! Ive struggled with insomnia and tmj in the past. I had to just experiment with different things to find what really worked. and sometimes something would stop working and id have to find something else.

1. have you tried magnesium? it comes in a powder version called natural calm that really works but any powder one that you put with hot water could knock out the tmj AND the insomnia.

2. if your up at night worrying try 5htp at night and GABA. Really helped me out.. this might help your jaw as well since in my experience mental stress really worsens my tmj and insomnia.

3. guided meditations centered on healing and the loving presence of the universe. this could help get to the root of the problem:)

4. Try taking B complex for stress management as well I felt an almost immediate difference.

5. Acupressure could be cool to look into as well. Ive had some interesting results with it!! Works immediately!

Ive found that the more I would stress about my insomnia or my tmj the worse it would get. A little acceptance can go a long way! Good luck! Email me if you have any questions!!

Replied by Tina
(Houston, Usa)
10/22/2012

Also for insomnia, rubbing few drops of good quality 'blue chamomile' essential oil on your front and back solar plexus chakras, front and back navel chakras and at the bottom of your feet (middle area) helps fall asleep effortlessly and stay asleep through the night.

It is advisable for overall health to use therapeutic grade essential oils (NOT food grade).

Additionally, a product called Min-Tran (All natural food ingredients) made by Standard Process in the US (and found on amazon. Com) is a great way to balance the sympathetic and para-sympathetic nervous system which aids in falling asleep. Unlike prescription sleep meds which badly affect the brain and in some cases damage the brain, Min-Tran does not effect the brain but works to calm down the nervous system.

Good luck, Tina

Replied by Wayfinder
(Modesto, Ca/ Usa)
10/23/2012

Here is an old Earth Clinic post, apparently, from an article written elsewhere!! To read it in full, check the Boron link that I posted yesterday.

"One forum contributor suffered with Fibromyalgia/Rosacea, chronic fatigue and TMJ for over 10 years which she believed were caused by fluoride. She used 1/8 tsp of borax and 1/8 tsp of sea salt in a litre of de-chlorinated water, and drank this for 5 days each week. Within two weeks her face cleared, the redness faded, body temperature normalized, energy level increased, and she steadily lost excess weight. The only side-effect was an initial aggravation of her Rosacea symptoms." --T.


MSM

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Posted by Mary (New York, Ny) on 03/21/2011

I started with 1500mg once a day. Empty stomach in the morning.

1-Nausea (not too bad) 15 minutes after

2-Sleeplessness and feeling some "electricity" or my "blood running" inside my body .

3- My stomach making a lot of noise. but I think now it happen after I ate bread.

Now I am taking 3 pills a day 4500mg and sleep like a baby and no more nauseas

Replied by Wendy
(Ontario, Canada)
03/21/2011

that is awesome that you started slow and work your way up. My dad is almost 70 and can take up to 9 a day... My husband 46 is also at 9 a day after he broke his arm 2 yrs ago and then again last year after a chainsaw injury to his leg. No side effects... But he was also taking lots of d (his blood test was really low) and lots of vitamin c and I made him drink tons of water every day. I have heard it is really really important to drink lots of water. I have the book the miracle of msm and it is an awesome read- actually I have 2 copies and I loan one out ;-) I also have a large MSM article I printed out from an online website but I don't think I'm allowed to post the link to that... It is said to be the official website for msm. I printed it out almost 3 years ago and it is dogeared beyond belief. I reread it all the time at breakfast, in the bathroom etc. Because you forget how many amazing uses it has!!! Wish there was more studies on breastfeeding and pregnancy and taking it. I know most people just say it's a supplement but I always err on the side of caution so I will have to wait until I am done nursing.

Replied by Francisca
(Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France)
03/21/2011

Mary, I think that you are supposed to start with a smaller dose of MSM and not take it in an empty stomach. It didn't do much for me (I went up to maybe 5g a day) but I will try an MSM drink soon which also contains glucosamin and chondroitin.

Replied by Jon
(Australia)
03/08/2015
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Take MOLYBDENUM with MSM to stop adverse reactions to the MSM...

Molybdenum helps to metabolize sulfur (MSM).

If taking MSM, garlic, onions or other Sulfur rich foods makes you feel sick? take some molybdenum. Molybdenum is a mineral.

Molybdenum with sulphur food (like MSM)

"I had a bad reactions to high sulfur foods (a garlic and onion soup I made) which I had not experienced in the past, and indicated to me I was getting sicker.

I first started out with 300 mcg Molybdenum and worked up to 1000 mcg. WOW! Not only did it take care of the 'sulfur sickness' I was experiencing, but the brain and thinking problems cleared up and I had a lot more energy after only 3 weeks. I Googled studies on it and read how it clears toxins, particularly from fungal infections which I also suffer from systemically."

MSM helps the body to utalize minerals.

I like to take MSM with Molybdenum and rosehip powder for Vitamin C

Replied by Timh
(KY)
03/08/2015
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J: Just a few tips.

The fungal infection produces aldehyde as a byproduct of it's metabolism and is quite toxic. Aldehyde is like a very potent alcohol so to best detoxify take the MolyB away from other supplements and also take Zinc & Niacin/Niacinamide together. You will wish to reduce the MolyB because it inhibits Copper. I always take 50mg Zinc w/ 1.5 mg Copper, and 500mcg MolyB at another time.

Take the Vit-C & MSM together as these are synergistic.

Lots of info on Candida and Fungal infections in the "Ailments" section at top E.C. page.


Multiple Remedies

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Posted by Melba (Tallahassee, Fl Usa) on 02/28/2011

For the past two weeks I have been drinking the borax, shilajit (fulvic acid), L-gutamine, and apple cidar vinegar in a 32 oz glass of water throughout the day. Hoping to draw out heavy metals and fluoride, and the l-glutamine for yeast. 4 days on, 3 days off as was suggested on here.

The third day of the second week I had tremendous anxiety. Crying, tremendous worry, racing thoughts. I had to stay home from work because my heart was racing so much. Anyone who has had anxiety knows the feeling of all the muscles being tight, yet feeling like electricity shooting through them.

Could this be a symptom of detox????

Replied by Coco
(Teaneck, Nj)
02/28/2011

For Melba, any even the slowest detox will agrevate you anxiety. I am in the same shoes for 10 years. Your body is over sensitive and you have to handle it very sensible too. Slow down and take your time with any detox......


Multiple Remedies
Posted by Shary (Centennial, Co) on 08/30/2010
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After reading a number of posts concerning side effects experienced from taking ACV, baking soda, BSM, honey, borax, etc. I am amazed that so many people would ask, "Is this normal?" NO it isn't! If it makes you sick or gives you a rash, headaches, heart palpitations, or whatever, it is NOT normal and you shouldn't be using it, no matter how healthy it's supposed to be or how good it makes other people feel. Please listen to what your body is trying to tell you instead of relying on all the hype.


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Posted by Tammy (Lincoln, Iowa) on 07/29/2009

Recently I have gotten a couple of small cuts or nicks. Very small. They should have bled a bit but stopped after a minute of pressure, but they didn't. It took a few minutes with a tightly wrapped bandage. -Which got soaked. It wasn't frightening, as I said they were small nicks. But I wonder what if I really got hurt.

What I want to know is, is something ,or a combination of things, that I am taking making my blood thinner? Here is a list of what I take daily.

2 tsp dietary supplement oil
2 caps mineral dietary supplement
2 Tbs tea dietary supplement
1 Tbs raw local honey
2 Tbs ACV
1 Tbs coconut oil
1 Tbs black strap molasses
1/4 tsp turmeric
1/4 tsp cayenne
1/4 tsp cinnamon

Replied by T
(Maryland, USA)
07/31/2009

I'l leave it to wiser folk to advise on which of those may be contributing to your blood thinning, but I wanted to let you know that vitamin K will help blood coagulation, so you might want to increase your intake of it. This page from the Linus Pauling Institute has lots of good info on Vitamin K (which is also important for bone health), and lists some food sources of it:

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminK/


Multiple Remedies
Posted by Renate (Parrish, FL, USA) on 01/13/2009

I have been OP for about a month in am for 20 minutes. My gums and pockets are better! Many 3s are now 2s and gums are not bleeding during the cleaning. I also have been doing ACV for Acid Reflux and Molasses for anti-aging (I am 56) and general well being. The ACV gave me burning tongue and very burning throat. I did the BS remedy and now do the EC receipe of 2 TBL ACV, 1 TBL Molasses in hot water w/1/8 tsp of BS. I add the turmeric and cayenne pepper as well.

My liver enzymes are elevated for the 1st time ever and the doctor seemed concerned and I have to retest in 3 weeks. I read in one of Ted's comments that some of the oil in OP settles in the liver. Has any one experienced elevated liver levels or heard of this? Not sure if Ted's comment is a bad thing or not. Thank you EC for this site and to all that contribute.

EC: OP = Oil Pulling
ACV = Apple Cider Vinegar
BS = Baking Soda


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Posted by Loretta M (Delta, Colorado) on 02/12/2008

I have been using _____'s acv with 1/4 tsp for the past 4 months daily along with 1/4 tsp of sea salt in a liter of water daily, the borax treatment 1/8 tsp 4-5 days out of the week, 1 tblsp of bsm daily, was doing vco daily and I have gained over 7 pounds. I really felt energized when I first started the remedies now I feel blah again. I noticed my sugar cravings are almost gone. I went through lots of stress the Nov. Dec. months but still did the remedies.

I tried the cayenne pepper tea. I recently started using lecithin due to high liver enzymes, and my blood sugar has been high in the past. what am i doing wrong? I am post menopausal and taking 1mg of estrodial with osteopenia (almost osteoporosis) my blood work showed hdl cholesterol low-37 LDL-187, low vit D, low B12. Any one else experiencing weight gain and just feeling blah? Am I doing too many remedies at the same time? the wrong remedies?

EC: BSM = Blackstrap Molasses
VCO = Virgin Coconut Oil


Oil Pulling and Hydrogen Peroxide

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Posted by Brad (Aurora, Colorado) on 09/22/2011

Ted, I have tried OP 4 yrs ago and quit because after one month I suffered dramatic hair loss. I followed all directions to the T, I was a little bit down in the dumps and thought I could correct this situation my self, so I started taking food grade ( diluted of course ) Hydrogen Peroxide as per recomendations ( followed all directions ) and after a month my eyesight started to get very blurry and has gotten a little better but I now need to wear bifocals. I am just now feeling like asking some questions if I can change my situation for the better. Please help? Has some bacteria gotten dislodged and settled in my scalp and behind the eyes?


Olive Leaf Extract

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Posted by Covered (Fort Hood, TX) on 05/25/2009

I've been taking olive leaf for about 12 days now. A couple of days ago I broke out with bumps (they look like chicken pox bumps) is this natural or is it an allergic reaction?


Probiotics

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Posted by Curly (Chicago, Illinois) on 07/19/2011
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Heya Earthclinic, when I take probiotics my sweat smells like bread dough or yeasty. And when I shower and stop the probiotics the smell is gone. Is this die off of candida?


Psyllium

Posted by Tm76 (Dublin, Ireland) on 04/17/2011

ok just started taking psyllium husks capsules yesterday, 2 an hour before each meal, have spent today in bed with terrible cramps, diarrhoea, and now vomiting, thought it was a gastric bug, but not sure after reading some posts here, drank plenty of water, does anyone recommend I continue with it?

Replied by Francisca
(Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France)
04/17/2011

It would be interesting to know why you were taking the psyllium husk capsules..... Constipation, I suppose.... I have never tried them but the only thing I can think about is that you took too much and had a terrible diarrhea! You say that you took 2 an hour before every meal but how many meals a day do you take? Does that mean that you took 6? It might have been too much! What I do in case of constipation is to start with a little bit and wait to see if it works. Sometimes I eat prunes, for example, but never a lot or else I can have the exact same problems (I have never vomited though...).


Raw Greens

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Posted by Smiler7700 (Manchester, Nh, United States) on 10/25/2011

Hello, at about age 30, I began having severe gastrointestinal distress from eating lettuce on anything, even if there was lettuce snuck inside a sandwich or a burrito. It took me a while to isolate what was causing the problem. It happens with all raw green substances (all lettuce, romaine, alfalfa sprouts, anything raw and green). However, I can still eat celery & bell peppers. What occurs is......... I get these huge stabbing, painful cramps in my stomach/intestines that is the worst pain........ Then pretty soon thereafter, I get the worst diarrhea ever, painful, and it goes on for hours, until whatever green was in there is out. (Sorry to be so graphic, but it's awful........... ). Now, every time I look at raw greens, I shudder, and I'm very vigilant about making sure no one puts raw greens on anything of mine! I told a gastroenterologist about this, and I don't remember if he had a real "explanation" for it.

I do have Irritable Bowel Syndrome. I don't remember if he said that this raw green intolerance is part of the IBS. However, I cannot find anyone else in which this happens. It seems very rare. And, I don't really know how to "cure" it. The gastroenterologist didn't really seem to help. Perhaps I should try a more naturopathic gastroenterologist? They could possibly recommend digestive enzymes? Because, the idea of me slowly introducing raw greens into my diet until I tolerate them........ It just frightens me, the pain is so bad when I eat them. But, I think I might have to "risk it" and plan to re-introduce myself to greens when I have a few days off of work, because it takes a lot out of me, I'm drained after these digestive attacks. Thank you for any input. I read on here a lot, but have never posted.

Replied by Smiler7700
(Southern, Nh, United States)
10/25/2011

I also forgot to mention, I want to move toward a more plant-based diet, with less processed foods. So, I would hope to at least at some raw greens as part of this diet shift. But now, with smoothies, I don't put kale or any greens in a smoothie, just fruit and ice................ No dairy - I am also lactose intolerant. So, for someone who wants to venture into vegetarianism....... Having a greens intolerance and a lactose intolerance is not a good thing- it won't leave me with many options! Thanks.

Replied by L
(New York)
10/25/2011

Hi Smiler, I have had a similar experience when eating raw vegetables in some restaurants. It does not always happen and it never happens at home. I think some restaurants do not properly wash the greens and I am particularly sensitive to the bacteria or preservatives that is left on them. So my policy has become to eat only cooked vegetables in restaurants and to wash the veggies well at home. It has been effective. I wish you good luck because raw vegetables are so good for us. Lee

Replied by Maria
(Gippsland, Australia)
10/30/2011

Hi Smiler7700, I don't think it is a rare as we tend to think, I think it is more that we don't talk about our bowel movements. I too used not to digest raw vegetables and cooked corn. Lettuce was the worst it would just float in the toilet bowl, 2-3 extra flushes to get rid of it. (Sorry folks about the graphics. ) I too agree that washing the veg is vital as even the chemical residue causes IBS symptoms for some. I took digestive enzymes for years to help. This enabled me to have salads but not twice a day only once a day, and only for 2-3 days in a row. I also found that all white products needed to be removed from my diet.

After being on ayurvedic remedies I now digest my food. The ones I believe that were of most benefit were: Ginger; Triphala; Tulsi; Neem. If you do a search for each one with the word digestion you will find some info about each of them. Triphala I found best taken after rising in am and also before bed. The others all taken with meals, 2 or 3 time a day, although the ginger with every meal. I have tried many different ways of eating and excluded things but it was the above remedies that changed it all for me. All the best.

Replied by Smiler7700
(Southcentral Nh, Nh, United States)
10/17/2012

Hello, I did not see your replies until now, a year later! Thank you so much. I will diligently wash any raw greens, and will only order cooked vegetables from restaurants. I will also look into those supplements & enzymes mentioned in your replies. I recently found out that I have lymphocytic colitis - it came about after a biopsy from a colonoscopy. The good news was... No polyps! So colitis might explain some of it. But thank you.

Replied by Niveen
(Canada)
07/13/2016

I had the same experience exactly. It went away after a couple of years avoiding letus n leafy greens. Avoid letus for a year then try to intreduce greens very slowly and don't worry, ot will go away. Im sorry for the pain. I know how bad it is.


Recommended Books

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Posted by GetEmTiger (Spokane) on 04/08/2023 1 posts
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Hello, I have been trying to learn all about natural remedies and break away from modern medicine (im tired of being tired and getting no help). I was scrolling tiktok, of course lol, and I had seen someone talk about not mixing herbs unless you know it is safe.. is this true? if it is, is there a recommended site or book that I can look into that will have lists of what not to mix while taking certain ones? I had bought Milk Thistle to help with my fatty liver, but wasn't sure if I can mix it with Beet root, Cinnamon, Turmeric, and papaya enzyme.

Replied by Mama to Many
(Tennessee)
04/10/2023
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Dear GetEmTiger,

Herbs can work together (synergistically) so yes, it stands to reason that some don't work well together. For example, some herbs are energizing and are best not taken at bedtime. And chamomile and hops are calming and I tend to take them in the evening if I am using them.

If you mix bleach and ammonia you get a poisonous gas. But those are chemicals, not herbs. I don't know of any common herbs that would have such a dramatic effect.

Single herbs can have their dangers. Some are blood thinners, which can be contraindicated for some people. Others shouldn't be taken in pregnancy as they can cause miscarriage. So it is always wise to get to know the herbs you are using. A favorite starter herb book for me is, "Ten Essential Herbs, " by Lalitha Thomas. I still reference it.

"Medical Herbalism, " by David Hoffman is a great herb resource, but it can be pretty overwhelming.

My own herb knowledge has come from using different herbs over the years and studying them one at a time.

I don't know of any contraindication of the herbs you mention, but if you are concerned, you could take them at different times of the day.

~Mama to Many~


Schizandra

Posted by Sara (Sacramento, Ca) on 12/14/2012

A warm Hello to Everyone! I am a full time student and heard so many good things about the benefit of Schizandra berry such as mental clarity, mental focus, sharpness and alertness. I bought it from a local Chinese store in my town and started taking it. Here is the funny parts: When I make a tea out of Schizendra berry and drink, I feel tired and need to go to sleep right away. If I take this berry at night, I can 13 or 14 hours of sleep. I wonder how people can take this instead of coffee in the morning. Thank, Sara


Sea Salt

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Posted by Meredith (Dubbo, Nsw Australia) on 10/05/2012

Can anyone explain why using sea salt as a mouth rinse has totally stripped my gums away. Where there was no issue before now I have some major gum recession going on, its not painful, just unsightly and a great concern. I'm stocking up on Vitamin C and eating well, but I'm nervous my only choice will be surgery. Any ideas?



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