I was recently treated with an antibiotic regimen for a serious H Pylori infection that was discovered because of an increase in my CEA levels. A blood test done 5 days after finishing the antibiotics showed a severe (50%) spike in the CEA level. My doctor doesn't know if that is normal and is a result of the H Pylori die off or if it indicates something else. Previous to the treatment the CEA was increasing at about 5% per month and presented a concern that my colon cancer was returning. No positive results for cancer were found and we are quite curious if this CEA increase is normal. If anyone knows, please advise me. If not, I need to wait until I have my next CEA test and see where it is a month later. Thank you.
H2O2 cured H. Pylori (bacteria)
I used 3-5 drops of hydrogen peroxide in 8 oz. distilled water. First day 3 drops, then the next day i used 5 drops. The third day bacteria passed through my colon with a splash of blood. Simple and amazing!
If you have or are suffering from H pylori or just gastric stomach, go to any health food store and get PH paper. The paper dipped in your urine will let you know your PH level. If you are below 7.0, you will notice that is when your stomach will be at its worse. During these times, it is best to eat foods that are alkaline and not acidic. If you are like me, you will see there are foods that are acidic that you have been eating, and causing your stomach to feel even worse. If your body show a PH level below the norm of 7.0 eat foods like apples. When my stomach starts to feel this way one apple usually tones it down and even eliminates the pain and discomfort. It took me a few days of testing my PH levels and eating foods from the the Alakaline group. If you keep your food intake at 70% alkaline and 30 acidic, your PH will return to normal. I feel best when my PH is at 7.5. You may find you need it higher. The best place to look for an alkaline and acidic list of food groups, is to look it up on the internet. It will not cure your H Pylori, but it does make you feel like it is gone if you watch what you eat. Good luck and good health.
Eating light it the key, skip dinner or just have fresh squeezed juice, or fresh cilantro juice it is healing. The days of big food and big dinner has always been a bad idea the body needs time to heal and clear away all the toxins and the body needs time to rest, You wouldn't run your car all night it would break down more often, So in order for your digestion to be healthy eating light makes you feel cleaner, clearer and refreshed, and helped me eliminate stomach pain.
I have suffered from h pylori and night time was the most terrible experience because I could not sleep with the constant irritation of my stomach. I have been taking lots of ginger, garlic, tumeric, cabbage juice, brocholi sprouts, plenty water, probiotics. I have to eat lightly and the most important thing is not to eat any heavy food at night or I won't get to sleep. I therefore eliminate all processed foods - have lots of raw veg salads and light fish. What I discovered eliminated the night discomfort for me was just having watermelon or light fruit after 4 pm - nothing hard to digest. It allows the stomach to heal overnight as the stomach does not have to pump out a lot of acid when you just eat fruit. I started sleeping better, pain went away and I woke up feeling refreshed. I now do not have symptoms. AT night the stomach does NOT want to be digesting heavy food. Sip on teas made from tumeric, ginger, liquorice. When you get enough rest your body will be able to fight the bug.
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Posted by Karen (Calgary) on 03/16/2014
I just wanted to get you to search manuka honey and how it beats heliobacter pylori every time!! Please do that. I am certain it will help. Good luck.
Posted by Rmr (M, Ct) on 01/21/2013
I am writing this hoping to help others. I'm replying to all forums I can find abou HP. Anyone suffering with it needs to do some research on Manuka honey. My husband suffered over 10 years and was convinced he had a tumor or cancer. After finally confronting the unknown, he tested for H. Pylori. Refusing to take antibiotics, we researched natural products and gave Manuka a try (Whole Foods carries it). He took a heaping tablespoon daily. He felt better in 3-4 weeks. 6 months into his honey treatment he visited the GI doc, that said he was symptom free. FYI, after contracting HP, the antibody stays in the system and you will continue to test on future blood exams. It's been 2 years post honey (he hasn't taken it in 1 years) and he remains symptom free.
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Posted by Tito (Saugus, Ma) on 12/22/2011
I tried the best Manuka Honey to help with H Pylori and it did not work for me. Suffering from stomach issues for 4 years now.
Posted by Alice (Lowell, Ma) on 11/28/2009
I first tried Pine Nut Oil. It gave me some relief, but not satisfied I decided to try manuka honey since doctors were not paying attention to the problem and was told to take meds for the rest of my life. I bought the Manuka Honey ___ ___ and after a few days my pains went away and I was able to eat again. Since then I have been good. I took the honey for 1 month, and I only take it once in a while now. A good diet is also recommended since certain foods will also make the condition worse. Every body is different so this migth not work on all, but i'm glad I tried the honey. Other brands did not do what Manuka did for me.
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Posted by Kaya (London, Uk) on 08/02/2009
To totally eradicate H. Pyroli and kill it off within a month - take a dessert spooonful of Manuka Honey UMF 10+ or higher (it goes up to 20+) before meals 3 times and and a spoonful before you go to bed at night. This honey (made from Bees in NZ who feed on the tea tree bushes) has antibacterial, antibiotic, antifungal, antiinflamatory properties and can cure most stomach problems such as Barrets oesephogus, gastritus and stomach ulcers. It can also be used on bed sores and mrsa wounds. Look it up on the internet to see how it has worked for lots other people. Hospitals in UK and Australia are using it to cure MRSA wounds and ulcers on legs, etc. Good Luck!
Posted by Lifehealer (Los Angeles ) on 03/28/2016
I have had H. Pylori 2 times over the coarse of 5 years. The first time I got it from over drinking alcohol with carbonated drinks. The 2nd time I got it from my girlfriend who didn't know what she had. Both times I healed it completely with Mastic Gum. I took 2 capsules, three times daily on an empty stomach between meals for a week and I felt so much better. Like I was cured. But I have a saying, "just because you feel better, doesn't meant your body is cured." So I always take any Natural cure for a month strait, just to be safe. The brand of Mastic Gum I used both times was Jarrow Formulas. I do not know anything about its quality, but I do know it worked for me. They have fair prices on amazon and that is all I care about, "It works, therefore can be trusted."
Now Mastic gum does not heal or close up the painful ulcers caused by H. pylori., nor does it heal the muscle tissue to allow your stomach to begin stretching again without pain. (I literally could only eat a single hard boiled egg without extreme ulcer pain and the urge to vomit) so for the ulcers and stomach lining repair I took Licorice Root, and Cabbage juice. For the Licorice Root I took 2 capsules a day three times a day with meals. Again it took about a week to feel healed. But I never stop taking my natural remedies until a month has past just to be sure.
Lastly just to be safe I gargle each night with hydrogen peroxide. No swallow just gargle and spit to kill off any of the bacteria that was living in my mouth. H. pylori can be passed by kissing because the bacteria travels up your esophagus and can also cause ulcers in your mouth. So gargling with H2o2 prevents it from being passed on orally, or repopulating your stomach when chewing food.
Today I am 100% cured, I am staying away from carbonated beverages, and trying to stay away from alcohol. I also cured my girlfriend, so she doesn't give it to me again. lol
Posted by Masha (Pasadena) on 05/25/2015
Mastic gum has been effective with me. I am taking antibiotics prescribed by my GI/Gastroenterologist plus natural treatment from a natural practitioner. The mastic gum bottle finished and I was waiting for my natural practitioner to get another bottle and I did not think much of it. That night, I had a very bad night, going to the bathroom every two hours. The next day, I drove for 1 hour to buy mastic gum and I am feeling much better now, the antibiotics have not worked so I will get in touch with my GI/Gastroenterologist for further treatment.
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Posted by Al (Alvena, Saskatchewan, Canada) on 07/27/2014
I have had two previous antibiotic treatments for H-pylori infections. The last treatment resulted in my CEA level having a drastic increase. I just recently found out that if you have an antibiotic resistant strain of H-pylori that the common treatment just allows the H-pylori to increase the number of bacteria present due to the lowering of the acidity in the stomach. The same thing happens when you consume baking soda to reduce stomach/blood acidity to eliminate a yeast infection if H-pylori is present.
The big problem for me is that I have had colon cancer and CEA is an indicator for recurrence of cancer and is also produced by H-pylori. My CEA was gradually increasing and was close to 20 (normal is less than 3), so I had a gastroscopy and colonoscopy which resulted in finding the H-pylori infection. Treatment resulted in a spike in CEA so with no answers from my doctor I started taking baking soda to ensure there was no yeast infection in my blood. That resulted in a further spike in the CEA and stopping the baking soda resulted in a return to a slow increase in CEA.
After extensive reading I found that acid reduction does increase H-pylori reproduction and found out about mastic gum and its natural ability to kill H-pylori. I started taking mastic gum two weeks ago and supplemented that with one to two ounces of apple cider vinegar daily, with the mother, to increase stomach acidity resulting in a small drop in the CEA from a high near 40. This test was done 11 days after the first dose of mastic gum and showed a 4% drop in that time frame. I have also seen a cessation of some symptoms as a result.
What I have read about mastic gum it is recommended that it be used for three months to completely eliminate H-pylori. Anyone that has antibiotic treatment for H-pylori should have a CEA test before and after and if the CEA increases should be retested for H-pylori and consider an alternative treatment. It is now ten months since the CEA first started to go up and the cancer specialists are talking about palliative care for me and don't even have a cancer diagnosis. This nasty bacteria has some not commonly known aspects that can point to other problems which result in it getting worse. Be careful about using antacids and acid reducers with H-pylori. I am now waiting on a PET scan to show that I don't have any cancer while I continue the mastic gum treatment.
Posted by Rob (Rancho Mirage) on 05/29/2014
Mastic Gum is excellent for getting rid of H-pylori which causes acid reflux and Gerd. Antacids do not work. Mastic Gum 500 mg 2 times a day for 3 months. Do yourself a favor and stop your stomach problems.