Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease

Last Modified on Dec 03, 2014

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Posted by Caski3 (Uk) on 09/15/2013

[BETTER BUT NOT CURED]  COPD: I have had an extremely wheezy sounding lungs. My GP brother suggests this is the result of smoking which I ceased some 25 years ago. I have been a firm believer in MSM and tried various manufacturers without the success that other cases demostrate. Most importantly is to buy therapeutic level of supplements from a reputable company. Recently I purchased MSM powder 99.9% pure form J---B Lab. Taking: MSM half a teaspoon twice a day.

One dessert spoon of organic coconut oil twice daily. 5 Drops of Vit D, 1,000 mg Vit C powder in a magnesium base. I am going to add Magnesium Citrate and Vit A and start Vit E again and see where we go from here. The results to date have been much less wheezing and loads more energy.

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Posted by John Jp (Buffalo, NY) on 09/20/2014

I should warn you that hydrogen peroxide is reactive and corrosive. If you combine it with other stuff it will break down the other stuff, rendering it useless or converting it into other stuff that is either useless or harmful that you don't want in your body. So only inhale H2O2 if you haven't inhaled other treatments in a few hours, and will not be inhaling other treatments in a few hours. AVOID all treatments containing metals (silver, magnesium, etc) for 24 hours if using H2O2.

If my breathing has been really bad for a while, H2O2 helped sometimes. But it seems that whatever "cleaning" effect it has, it had no more beneficial effects after the lungs were cleaned with it. Perhaps people who are frequently breathing dirty environments, pollution, smoke, or regularly getting lung infections can benefit from regular use of H2O2.

Otherwise a few days in a row for cleaning out the lungs every few weeks or months might be good enough for some in good, clean, safe, healthy environments.

People with air filters, AC, & relatively clean air around them may not see any improvement from regular H2O2 treatments.

You may not need to mix H2O2 with distilled water. Pour a teaspoon of H2O2 in a small glass of your tap water. If it doesn't bubble or foam like crazy, or only bubbles a little bit, there's not much bad in it to react to, so you can mix it with ordinary tap water.

I've read coffee and caffeine may be bad for COPD. It turns out it is only bad for some of the meds you may be taking.

My COPD was so bad that I couldn't walk across the room or go to the bathroom without desperately gasping for air. Getting laid off because of breathing problems, losing my health insurance, & being on a tight budget, I gave up coffee because I could no longer afford it, and they said it was bad for me.

After some research I had discovered that caffeine is very similar chemically to some meds used to treat COPD. I traced my steps back to the last time I could walk across a room without gasping for air. It was before I ran out of coffee and gave it up!

I desperately went to my cabinet and got out some caffeine tablets I had from the days of my night-shift work, and took a tablet. These were the bigger strong ones. I used to only use a half a tablet for night-work because they were so strong. But for this experiment I took a whole one.

A whole one was too much. Got the shakes, and an uneasy stomach. Breathing only improved slightly during the first hour. During the second hour, breathing was remarkably better. After the second hour I was breathing better than I had in months!

The speedy/hyper effects of the caffeine had diminished considerably after a couple hours, but the breathing was still improving. I continued to breathe much better for 5 hours after taking the caffeine, before I noticed my breathing was starting to get slightly worse again.

I continued experimenting with different doses at different times to see what worked best. Rather than buy more coffee, I continued on using the caffeine "stay awake" tablets to formulate an accurate dosage/treatment scheme.

This is what works for me these days. I take a normal cup of coffee in the morning with a small caffeine tablet. The tablets are about half the size of the original ones, so are much weaker. It turns out more is NOT better. So if you have one of those special or exotic coffee makers that deliver a very strong caffeinated beverage, you might want to skip the tablets entirely.

Caffeine is a drug and a stimulant. If you have too much it will de-sensitze you to it, causing you to need more with less of the beneficial effect. Also too much will make you hyper or nervous so you'll burn more oxygen and get an upset stomach. So be sensible. Use only what you need, using too much will only make things worse.

I usually don't need any more caffeine for at least 5 hours. At that time, around lunch time or hours after, another ordinary cup of coffee is enough. But if my breathing has gotten considerably worse, I may take only 1/2 of one of those small caffeine tablets with the coffee. Again, I must stress, if you are having a strong coffee or strong caffeinated beverage you may skip the tablet.

AVOID Red Bull or other caffeinated beverages and energy drinks that may have other stuff in them you don't want or may be bad for you and your other treatments!

Just before, during, or after dinner time (depending on my breathing) I may have another cup of coffee. Many days I can skip it because I'm still breathing good enough. Other days if it has gotten real bad, I'll take another half a caffeine tablet with the coffee.

Again, I must stress, more or too much is NOT better. Take only the amount of caffeine you need to breath a little better. Taking too much will de-sensitize you to it, and the treatment won't work or work well anymore. Don't be impatient. You may notice only a slight improvement after 20-60 minutes of taking caffeine. The significant improvement will happen after the first hour, and continue for many hours.

2-4 hours before bedtime I might have another cup of coffee if my breathing is getting bad again. That way the speedy effects are almost worn off by bedtime so I can sleep well. However if my breathing is so bad that I can't get ready for bed or sleep safely, I'll also take a half a caffeine tablet with the coffee, and decide to stay up a few hours later until my breathing is better.

I find usually if I had a caffeine tablet or a half of one with my coffee, the next time or the next 2 times I do not need a caffeine tablet with my coffee, or can go longer without coffee. The tablets I'm using now only have about as much caffeine as a cup of coffee. So a cup with a tablet is like having 2 coffees. A cup with a half a tablet is like having a large coffee.

So I'm only having the equivalent of 4-6 regular ordinary cups of coffee a day in caffeine, and unlike the coffee guzzlers at work or at most jobs, it's spread out through the whole day, not just squeezed into an 8 hour work shift.

Check with your doctor to make sure it's safe to drink coffee with the meds you're taking. However, if you're having very strong coffee, or taking caffeine tablets, you might want to stop taking the other meds for that day anyway & see how things go.

Caffeine can conflict with other meds... especially meds that are stimulants that have ingredients in them that end in the letters "ene" or "ine", or steroids. They do not mix well with coffee.

So if caffeine is so similar to other COPD meds chemically why aren't doctors recommending it, or telling you to avoid it? Doctors and drug companies won't make much money if they tell you ordinary cheap coffee is almost the same thing as the meds.

I've recently changed my coffee recipe for even better results. A slightly weaker coffee with a little chocolate, sugar, and milk is even better. They say avoid sugar because it burns O2. BS! Any energy you burn will require O2. Sugar is the quickest was to ingest energy without spending a lot of resources & O2 digesting and processing it. So unless you're already overweight, enjoy your sugar.

I use a weaker cup of instant coffee now. Only a single level teaspoon of cheap generic instant coffee in hot water. 2.5 teaspoons of sugar. 1 heaping teaspoon of Nesquick instant chocolate milk (also has a little caffeine & antioxidants in it), and 1 heaping teaspoon of dry milk. Don't worry if you're lactose intolerant, a teaspoon of low fat dry milk doesn't have enough lactose to bother most people. So you're getting a little protein, vitamin D, calcium, energy & other nutrients with every cup. It's also delicious.

The little bit of low fat dry milk won't generate extra mucus, or slimy spit. I've tried many different recipes over almost a year now. The chocolate instant coffee recipe seems to improve the breathing the best.

The second best was cinnamon (lots of antioxidant) instead of chocolate in the coffee. But I had to use 3 heaping teaspoons of sugar instead of 2.5 for the taste & energy boost I needed. Yum!

With the new chocolate recipe, on a good day, I only need a caffeine tablet with the coffee in the the morning and can avoid more tablets with the coffee for the rest of the day or until the evening. Some good days I may only have 2 cups!

But there are still occasionally bad days where I still need a half tablet with every cup (up to 6 cups a day) to get through a day even with the chocolate.

Grapefruit juice is another daily treatment I use. Again, it had chemicals similar to some meds you may be taking so check with your doctor first or discontinue the meds for the day to see how it works for you. It is safe to take grapefruit juice with caffeine though.

Grapefruit juice is also some pretty potent stuff, so more is not better, and too much can make things worse. Because I need to sleep at night, I usually take about 8 oz. of grapefruit juice after dinner or a couple hours before bedtime. That way I need very little or no caffeine to help me breathe & can sleep better.

Air conditioning! Humidity is the enemy for most of us.That's why it's better to take a bath than a shower too. Showers put too much humidity into the air.

Keep the air cool and dry. Humidity of 40% is ideal for COPD sufferers. Some people can't take it much drier than that, but others are fine down to 0%. Keep it cool. The molecules & oxygen in the air are closer together at cooler temperatures. So you're getting more O2 per breath when the air is cooler.

Blow up a balloon in the hot sun on a hot humid day. Then put the balloon in the fridge for an hour. See how much it shrank? There's just as much O2 in there as before but it's more concentrated so takes up less space. More O2 per breath!

Wear heavy sweatshirts, hoodies, and sweatpants & other warm stuff inside to keep warm, and crank up the AC. Keep it in the 60s F (16-21C) to breathe better. The cool dry are will also slow or stop the growth of mold & bacteria that can be growing in the walls, drains, under the toilet rim, litter box, & other places you can't see it. That stuff thrives on warm or humid damp air.

Don't let the air get stale and de-oxygenated though. Crack the windows open at least a couple times a day to refresh the air. Even in the freezing winter. Turn up the heat or sit in front of an electric heater while the air is being refreshed in winter. It won't take long to refresh the air a little so you can close them again.

Cooking consumes a lot of O2, expels CO, CO2, dirties up the air, and heats the place up, so it's the best time to crack open the kitchen window to let in fresh air during winters.

Can afford that? Keep a small safe room that is always air conditioned, air filtered, and regularly refreshed, to retreat to... like your bedroom. It's pretty cheap to keep 1 small room conditioned well to escape to. Put a TV, computer, and projects to do in there to pass the time with on bad breathing days.

Avoid fireplaces, wood stoves, campfires, and other open flames & fires. They're very, very, bad for COPD. I have to stay home for Christmas and Thanksgiving because family insists they must have logs burning on a fire even though I can't breathe. Ironically my Mom passed away with COPD, but they have forgotten she couldn't breathe near a wood fire either.

Don't like the nasty looks they give me when I start coughing up goo either, so I'm glad to stay home during the holidays anyway.

Air filters! Although your small 400-500 watt window AC has a filter in it that helps, it will only trap large particles or hair, & a few contaminants may condense and stick to the cold damp AC core to be drained to the outside (so yes, they will clean the air a little). Even if you can only afford a couple $40 walmart portable air filters for a small bedroom they do help a lot. H2O2 may not help much if you're already breathing relatively clean air most of the time or overnight when the dirt settles in the lungs the most.

The disposable filters inside can cost almost as much as the units, & may need to be replaced in 3 months. But there's ways around that. Open up the unit to get at the replaceable filters. Tape a thin, cheap, sheet of single ply generic toilet paper over the front of the paper filter assembly. The cheapest version of Scot toilet paper works best for me. Replace the paper every 1-2 months (if you have pets & kids around once a month). The replaceable filters in mine have lasted 19 months so far, and seems like I'll get them to last over 2 years.

I used to desperately gasp for air just walking across the room or going to the bathroom every day for months. With the caffeine, grapefruit juice, AC, & filters, I can get most of my household chores, cooking, and eating done almost every day good enough. I can walk 8 blocks to get groceries, & carry them home, taking a rest for a few minutes every block or so now.

I live on the second floor. I can go downstairs to check my mail every day without much problems now. No cure, but much better than before.

Replied by Prioris
My past research on COPD and other respiratory diseases causes me to conclude that fungus infections are behind them. Have you tried systemic anti fungals medicine and if so, how have they helped?
Replied by Prioris
Fl, US
My past research on COPD and other respiratory diseases causes me to conclude that fungus infections are behind them. Have you tried systemic anti fungals medicine and if so, how have they helped.

Posted by Harold (New Market, Maryland) on 05/30/2012

Hello Ted, I read your blog religiously because there is so much information that can be helpful now as well as in the future if needed. I was recently exposed to apparently a pretty large amount of Ozone when a house was being treated for mold and removal of unwanted odors. Later that evening I was barely able to breathe and drove myself to emergency room at 3:00am. I was diagnosed with Bronchospasm/COPD.

I am ready to try some of the remedies listed under COPD within your blog but I am wondering if there might be a specific protocol for Ozone induced Bronchospasm/COPD. I've already ordered CoQ10, Curcumin, Oil of Oregano, and N-Acetyl Cysteine. I also have a good quantity of steam distilled water but purchased celtic sea salt if recommended. I look forward to your rapid response. Thanks, Harold

Posted by Rev. Concetta (Warren, Mi) on 04/07/2012

[BETTER BUT NOT CURED]  Dear Earth Clinic, I wanted to share my story with you, your readers as I have found your site very useful-

I smoked for over twenty years and in 2004 was diagnosed with COPD, I stopped smoking, changed my diet, and got on with life- In 2007 my health began a fairly steady decline, I would go to work and feel fatigued, constant headaches, loss of appetitie- I truly thought I was dying and hopeless, I found earth clinic and tried the H2O2 diluted in water, now for me this paticular cure did not seem to help, though I know it has for many- By 2009 I was in a terrible state, not only with the COPD but with the addition of Multiple Chemical Sensetivity, after exposure to my workplace I would get headaches so severe that I would sleep for 12 to 14 hours, I had intense leg muscle pain, sinus problems, fatigue... Oh it went on and on- I was fired from my job, even though I requested accomodations, I requested that air fresheners, perfumes be banned and that I would be notified when spraying pesticides, and the use of organic cleaning solutions... After three years working for a state funded non-profit, I was let go because they did not want to trample on other people's rights to be fragrant or become the perfume police- Now I am out of work and sick, had to apply for disability, because I could not find a non toxic work environment, I could not work outside as the cold took my breath away and walking any distance was out of the question- So after 3 bouts of Pnuemonia in two years, being placed on three different inhalers I still felt awful- I had to make a choice to die like this or to find something that would help- After much research and trial and error, realizing that every cure does not work for everyone (DON"T GIVE UP! ) I have found a good combination for my body- I take;

Vitamin C 1000 mg 1 tab 3x a day Super Cayenne 100,000 HU 1 tab 3x a day Full spectrum Mullein Leaf 500 mg 1tab 2x a day Ashwagandha 450 mg 2 caps 1x a day Swanson's Lung Essentials 2 caps 2x per day Calcium w/Mag and Vitamin D 1,000 mg 2 caps 2x per day Marshmallow Root 500 mg 1 cap 1x per day Capsicum w/ eucalyptus nasal spray 2x per day Tumeric 1/4 spoon dissolved in warm milk 3x per week Juiced garlic mixed with apple cider vinegar and honey a shot mixed with warm water 1x per day

I plan on adding MSM to this mix-

So it has been two weeks in and the difference is notable, I can breathe much easier, I can walk further, I can clean my house without having to sit down every five minutes, I feel I have more energy, return of appetite, better sleep, headaches are gone, sinus problems, pressure, running nose, are slight and I think I have less senstivity to chemical fragrances, I'm still testing this but will keep you updated- I am still taking my inhalers as prescribed, but may attempt to cut down usage and see how that goes... I hope this may serve to offer hope to someone else suffering, there is a way, you just have to find what works for you- Much Love and Many Blessings-

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Posted by Ginta (Phoenix, Arizona, Usa) on 11/29/2012

[YEA]  I am 63 and have severe COPD from smoking since I was about 16. I've had chronic bronchitis for a number of years and recently found some articles on using N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) for clearing phlem, so I bought some from a local health food store. I've been taking 1200mg/day and am amazed at the results - after just one day I was coughing up a lot, but the phlem was foamy rather than thick and sticky. It's been over a week now that I've been taking the NAC and my coughing has lessened significantly. I am now also taking serrapeptase and niacin.

I was recently given a nebulizer machine by someone who's friend passed away from his COPD (he was 81 and had three nasty bouts of pneumonia) and have ordered some hoses/mouthpieces and some liquid DMSO, MSM and colloidal silver to try Ted's DMSO treatments to further help clear my lungs. I'll post an update after a few weeks.

Natural Microdose Dna   2  0   

Posted by Robert (Martinez, Ca) on 05/26/2010

For those with C.O.P.D. & other respiratory ailments, please check research on 'natural microdose DNA' which is not a product name but a natural substance with research & use for humans & also in the veterinary fields. The price for the product is very reasonable for its effectiveness & is available to all as it is not a drug.

Replied by Vicki
New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand
[YEA]   Hi everybody. I'd like support what Robert said about Natural Microdose DNA. I've got an earlier post about my father using this product for his emphysema. He's improving all the time. His peak flow meter has risen even further from my previous post, written three weeks ago. It's now rarely below 200 and several times has been 220. He made more rapid progress when he started putting the drops underneath his tongue instead of on top of his tongue as he had been doing. I've just ordered another bottle from It costs me $NZ60 for one bottle plus courier to New Zealand, which only takes six days. Of course, this would be less in US dollars. A bottle lasts about two months at the normal dose, so it's pretty cheap, especially for something that actually works!! Obviously, other places sell it, apart from, but if you go to their site and put "Natural Microdose DNA" or "Salmon DNA" in the search box, the product will come up and you will be able to read some very positive customer reviews about it. I hope it can help some of you with respiratory conditions, like it is helping Dad.

All the best,

Replied by Linda
Jefferson City, Mo U.s.a.
I am sending this to Vicki from New Zealand and the natural microdose DNA that she purchased for her father. I went to and could not find it. I did email them and told them that I needed some assistance in locating this product. They emailed me back and said that they could not find it either. I really would like to try some. Could you advise what to do next? I hope your father is doing wonderful. He does not know how lucky he is to have a caring, loving person there to help him out. You go girl!!! Thanks Linda
Replied by K
Good Ole, Usa
Try typing in Salmon DNA like I did. She said to search for it that way. I found it. Good luck.
Replied by Warren
Costa Mesa, Calif., Usa
Google Mucolyxir. There you have your Natural Microdose DNA
Replied by Pattianne
Federal Way, Washington, Usa
[YEA]   After numerous searches & great difficulty I found this product... Called Mucolyxir from an organic pharmacy in NC. High daily dose of D3 (do get tested! ), a garlic/habanero pepper tincture, systemic enzymes and daily exercise have kept me pneumonia free for the first year in over 10 yrs. This is a blessing and I hope you find yours! Not all products work for all people.

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Posted by Robert (Nokomis, Florida/ Usa) on 07/07/2011

I have COPD (emphysema). You mention Tes about cayene peppers, mullim & etc. Do you mix this for inhalation? When I do my nebulizer treatment what do I mix to get the Avioli working and excrete the junk! Now I do a regular nebuliser treatment with 0.83 albuterol. I do inhale eculyptus in the moring from its bottle. What else? I do Advair and spiriva... That is for everybody I guess. Help Me Please, Bob

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe
read up on h2o2 inhalation, here on this site.

Oil Pulling   0  0   

Posted by Jerroll (Humble, Texas,usa) on 11/17/2010

I've just started OP with Sunflower oil. I have been told that I have COPD with 1/4 decrease in lung function. Has anyone been helped with OP ? If so what oil should I use?

Replied by Livia
The Woodlands, Tx
Based on all I've read about OP'ing, you may have to try different oils to find what works best for you. I also wanted to mention a couple of other possibly useful aids: one is serrapeptase, which is a supplement that dissolves fibrotic lesions in the body. Some folks with copd'ers are breathing more easily since using that. Be careful if you tend to bleed easily, though, or are taking a blood thinner. The other idea is to find a breathing technique that works for you. Life Lift and Bodyflex are two funny-looking ones that can help a lot. Fine for most people, unless you have high blood pressure or glaucoma, (or are pregnant, which I'm thinking doesn't apply to you). I've seen a demo of the bodyflex breath on youtube before. The life lift version is slower and gentler (the bodyflex founder learned it from the life lift lady, actually. )

Basically, you gently blow all the air out of your lungs through your mouth, as if blowing through a tube... A martial arts article explained that there are multiple benefits to doing it this way, btw... Then a big inhale through the nose (smile to open up your nostrils to their widest), hold a second or three, then blast the air out, and pop your lips as you say "Paaaaaaaah. " It isn't vocalized, it's just air. Then you hold your breath and suck in your gut as if rolling up your abs. In fact, there is a yoga move like this. Hold your breath. With practice, you will feel the suction as you do it, and when you release the air and hear a sucky sound. Hold as long as you feel comfortable holding your breath, but you don't need to go longer than a count of eight or so, and repeat. Fifteen minutes a day should dramatically help oxygenation and lung flexibility. If you have contraindications for that sort of breathing, then incorporating any gentler, intentional breathing exercises into your day should be a must on your daily to-do list.

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Posted by Lucille (Waycross, Ga) on 11/30/2012

[YEA]  I knew it was wonderful for cold and flu but I read up on it and it said for chronic conditions take two with every meal. So copd is chronic condition. I tried it an what a blessing to me. It helps with the mucus and just makes you feel better. I hope this helps somebody.

Replied by Megg
North Vernon, Indiana
Does it help with the breathing? is it safe? :)

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Posted by Billie (Wa, US) on 08/02/2014

[YEA]  About four months ago I picked up a Himalayan salt inhaler, which I used pretty consistently for my COPD, like all day long :), for days (have always done things my own way).

During that first week I could feel a difference and then it really started working. Today, I am able to go all day without it, using it only at night before bed and it also helps with sleeping.

If you want added relief with your breathing, I highly recommend a salt inhaler. They cost about $30.00 and come with extra salt. Got mine at our local drug store, big chain stores don't carry them but may be able to order one for you. Or there are places on line you can order them for yourself.

Look into their use, check out the many videos on line. They are used for many breathing problems, including allergies.

By the way, have some tissue @ hand since your nose will also clear.

Easy breathing my friends~ Billie

Sea Salt   1  0   

Posted by Jenjen (Bath, England) on 06/24/2012

i have just found this which some people may find interesting... salt therapy :)

Posted by Rv (Huntington Beach, Ca, USA) on 12/14/2009

[YEA]  Sea Salt for Pneumonia

I have (usually) mild asthma. I visited a dusty wildflower area and contracted fungal pneumonia. The doctor did not apply effective antibiotics, because the infection was fungal, and he initially misdiagnosed it. The infection continued for weeks, and hardened into chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. Over the next year I tried many remedies. Then I found an interesting fact. The ocean has millions of antibacterial virions per liter. This is why there are so few bacteria there: predation. I live in an oceanside city, and have no problem getting clean, fresh seawater. I spat some infected sputum into a bottle of seawater and diluted it to invisibility. The idea was that any virus would rapidly multiply by killing and eating the bacteria of my infection. Then over a week, I sprayed the water and inhaled it. My coughing got worse, but then air began to penetrate past the blockages and I began to cough them up; some looked like french fries. I'm now healthy.

I think a similar effort might work with artificial seawater made from organic sea salt. The idea is that it must be organic so that the antibacterial virions would need to be preserved in the salt.

Replied by Dan
Clearwater, Florida
Rv, I have a couple of questions about your post.

1) I just read the Wikipedia article on "Fungal Pneumonia" which is informative but left me wondering... What type of fungus was involved in your case?

2) I'm interpreting your description to mean that you cultured spit (sputum) in sea water to get a more potent viral concentration that would be more effective on the bacteria of your infection. But if it was a "fungal pneumonia" doesn't that mean that it was a fungus involved instead of bacteria?

3) Did you try inhaling any of the sea/salt water before trying the "culturing"? (i.e. , might this work by just inhaling a mist of just plain seawater or perhaps just plain saltwater made from refined table-salt, not from sea-salt?)

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Posted by Patsy May (Canvey Island, Essex, United Kingdom) on 01/09/2012

Hi everyone my name is Patricia. I am from Essex England.

I have not long ago found this site, I bought a E book (how I cured COPD in 6 weeks) found link from this. What an amazing site. Ted sounds like a godsend to everyone it's nice to know their are people out there who do care.

I started my programme 5 days ago. Am doing 35% food grade starting 1 drop in 8ozs distilled water 3xday and increasing by 1 drop each day till 26 drops 3x day stay on this for week then start reducing drops till I get to maintence level. I take 1st glass 1st thing in morning about 7am on empty stomach then breakfast 1 hr later, have lunch about miday 12.30 with a drink of barley leaf powder and raw honey, take 2nd dose 3 hours later, about 3. 30 pm, have main meal about 5pm then last dose about 8pm. Does this sound about right?

I am a novice and all or any advice is welcome. I am starting to feel some benefits more energy and breathing much easier. Have seen a lot about taking bicarbonte of soda and sea salt 1/4 teaspoon to 5 litres water, as I am distilling my water(have a water distiler machine) would it be alright to put into my distiled water which I put my HP in.

Hope this post find the right place. I am really going to give this my all, as have heard and read some fantastic (almost unbealivable ) results from following this regime.

My best wishes to everyone out there and a very HEALTHY New Year. Pat

Ted's Remedies   0  0   

Posted by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 01/27/2008 | 685 Posts

Over the past couple of days I have been researching and performing experiments to find a remedy based on looking into the cause of emphysema/COPD.

Since a large majority of people had emphysema came from smoking I further investigated what components of smoking was responsible for the emphysema and why this situation can't be reversed, but what I found is that it CAN be reversed.

If we look into the components of the smoke as well as photos of lung samples of people with emphysema, this should give you a fair idea what is causing the problem. A smoke from a cigarettes has many volatile oils, smoke particulates, naphtha, nicotine, and tar. What is most interesting is that volatile oils are volatile, so that won't have a lasting effect on the lungs. A smoke particulates basically is expelled when mucus is created, and are often coughed out. A naphtha is less volatile and may slowly sublime. This leaves the sticky resinous component that most people call it tar. It shows itself as dark very sticky spots on the lungs. These resinous sticky black substance are non volatile. It is hydrophobic and can't be dissolved with water, mucous can't lift it out because it is sticky. The body under normal conditions can't remove the tar.

These black resin or rosin substance that is very sticky from a plant and has some smoke particulates, but mostly it is referred to as pitch (resin) that stays into the lung forever and the tar accumulates along the lifetime of the smoker and therefore the lungs get more black tar making breathing more difficult. Therefore a simple remedy is simply to find a suitable solvent that will dissolve the tar. Since a tar is hydrophobic, it is somewhat soluble, mostly anyways in alcohol solution. But in organic chemistry the universal organic solvent (almost) that is biologically safe is DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) or a sister MSM which may be a good solvent to dissolve the tar found in the lungs. I remembered at the time of storing a smoker's lung as a student but was particularly lazy and put them into an unknown solution which later proved to be DMSO which removed the tar out of the lungs thus irritating the teacher that I just cleaned out the smokers lungs! At the time I was not aware of the link between emphysema and smokers lung. Another suitable substance of MSM can also be used to dissolve the tar which caused the emphysema. Once the tar removes itself the lungs will no longer have the tar to block the breathing sacs of the aveolar. Not only that but the tar won't cause the irritations to the lungs which leads to inflammation, thus choking the vicitims whenever breathing passages are narrowed from the inflammation.

Therefore a simple remedy is either DMSO or MSM. So I decided to test this by getting a coal tar solution and burn the alcohol off leaving a sticky substance. I added some DMSO and see if they were any soluble to the coal tar. Surprisingly the DMSO was quite soluble of coal tar. As to whether MSM is equally soluble as a DMSO, it may not be as much, but at least what is known is it is can also be used to dissolve a wide range of organic solvents including cigarettes tar. The issue appears to be to take MSM or DMSO in high amounts necessary to remove them may take some time, but continued use will reduce the tar buildup that cause black lungs or black dots as the tar will dissolve itself whenever the blood his high in MSM or DMSO and is eliminated out slowly in the bloodstream as the capilaries with the DMSO, where the tar resin resides get dissolved. Another more direct way is to use a DMSO nebulizer, but so that the DMSO won't cause skin irritation, at least for me a 30-50% DMSO mixed with water should cause minimum irritation, while more dilute may limit its solubility of tar, ti will at least slowly dissolve itself without the irritation. It is therefore needed that to find a higher DMSO concentration used as nebulizers that doesn't cause irritation. So for me an ideal concentration appears to be about 50%, a more conservative number might be 30% so it is possible that some people can try higher concentration that does not cause irritation, but 30-50% is usually the best concentration to at least give it a try for me. When DMSO as nebulizers enter the lungs the resins will uptake the DMSO and gets dissolve. So that not TOO MUCH dissolved out of the lungs into the bloodstream, it should not be done too long such that a person becomes nauseated.

This I might also follow with taking some MSM as MSM don't have the oysters smell, such as one tablespoon with plenty of water. It should be noted that MSM that I tried in the past, if taken too much may lead to sudden thirst in water. This is because MSM has an effect of purifying the body ridding of other resinous material in the body which leads to regularly occuring allergy in certain areas of the body instead of other parts. Resinous tar substance that accumulates in the body is also removed whenever MSM or DMSO is taken, but rather slowly.

Therefore the best remedy based on physical evidence appears to be the use of MSM, the more I can take the better the body can get rid of the substance, but at the time a nebulizer DMSO should also be used. I remember someone has tried for emphysema and was helpful, but at the time no one was aware of how DMSO or MSM works, how much or how long and what it does and then since everyone was at a loss for explaination, the placebo effect was assumed or since no proper explaination was available, everyone at the forum simply forgot about the remedy or its potential effectiveness.

EC: Please read our feedback page on MSM, including little known side effects.

Replied by Sem
Burbank, California
Hi, I read Ted's Remedy today regarding DMSO treating lungs to rid them of tar from smoking. He also referred to taking MSM at the same time. I wanted to find out if he has actually tried this method or knows of others who have (I think he did mention someone) and what kind of results they had. I was hoping that Hydrogen Peroxide would clean out my lungs, but DMSO makes more sense because it is a natural solvent. I also wanted to find out if the pump spray method would be sufficient or would I need to get another method of delivery. Thank you. SEM
Replied by Investigator
Sacramento, USA
Originally, I used to have chronic laryngitis for years, and Chronic Obstructive pulmonary disease. I tried many different therapies basically almost all of them. I tried the following therapies with the following results:

1. Oregano Oil therapy- As advocated by Dr. Cass Ingram This therapy does appear to work, but I cannot tolerate the taste of the oregano oil, and the burning sensation on my tongue. I actually have a white tongue with candida growing on it, a condition called oral thrush. So I placed a few drops of oregano oil on my tongue, and it does indeed kill candida, but I can't tolerate the taste and the burning lol. So in order for this therapy to be effective I would probably have to take a megadose, which I cannot tolerate, so I passed on following through with this therapy. Grade: Incomplete (good if you can tolerate the stuff I guess)

2. Colloidal Silver therapy- I originally tried colloidal silver, when I first acquired my respiratory problems. As a matter of fact I drank an entire 8oz or 16oz bottle of colloidal silver to see what would happen. The colloidal silver basically had no effect on my copd, because it was not contacting the site of infection, and going into the stomach and not the lungs. However, on the other hand when I nebulized colloidal silver, it was much more effective. I noticed a tingling sensation as I nebulized it into my lungs, and it felt like stuff was dying off. Unfortunately, nebulizing CS is very time consuming, and the benefit was rather short term. It benefited my lungs, and reduced the chest pains I had, but it didn't help my vocal cords. Grade: C when nebulized, D- when taken orally.

3. Superfood green powders- I used superfood green powder, but they had no effect on my lungs and vocal cords. Perhaps, they benefit when taken over a long period of time though, but I had no benefit from them personally. Grade: D-

4. Megadose Vitamin C therapy based on the Carthcart tit-rating to bowel tolerance protocol, combined with LypoSpheric Vitamin c, as advocated by The Vitamin C
Foundation Sadly, this therapy had no effect, and I think the theory behind it is wrong. I know for a fact I had chronic laryngitis, and copd, and it did not cure my condition. All it did was give me chronic diarrhea. Although, some people swear by this therapy and received benefit from it, but it simply did not work for me as advertised. Grade: D-

5. Iodine therapy as advocated by Dr. Brownstein (Please note that I own that book, and there is no mention of iodines effectiveness against viruses in it. It mostly concentrates on iodines role as a oral chelation agent). I noticed a big big improvement after taking nascent iodine. I am thinking this therapy is working for me, because it specifically targets the areas of my body that were infected. I am thinking it is having such a dramatic effect on me, because it is acting as a oral chelation agent, while simultaneously killing off my laryngitis. 95% of Americans are deficient in iodine due to bromide poisoning form eating bread, and I ate bread for years, which is why I think this is helping me. I think I'll try only lugols iodine to see if I receive the same dramatic benefits as the nascent iodine, to see if I can save money with similar benefits only using the cheaper lugols iodine. According to Dr. David Derry:

"Iodine circulating in the blood is captured by many tissue sites and ends up in mucus secretions. The tissues include thyroid and salivary glands, nasal secretions, stomach, and lungs. Collectively, these tissues and mucus products contain free iodine which defends against invasion by bacteria and viruses. The salivary glands, nasal mucosa, and lungs all secrete mucus which contains iodine. [16] The lungs not only secrete mucus, but Salter thought volatile iodine mixes with alveolar air to enter the bronchioles. [17] If this is occurs, it would serve as an additional barrier to the invading air borne viruses in a manner similar to aerosol iodine. Stomach mucosa captures iodine from blood and secretes it into stomach cavities. Free iodine in the stomach kills bacteria and viruses and it deactivates biological and chemical toxins. Dead viruses are still immunologically competent and thus antibodies can be made to dead viruses. [20, 22]
Overall, we see there is a complex integrated system for protecting humans from viral or bacterial invasions via oral, nasal, and gastrointestinal routes. [16] This system depends on taking adequate iodine orally.

From the largest manufactuerer of lugols iodine:

"Iodine is necessary for the thyroid gland's proper performance of its work. The human thyroid gland is located in the front of the lower part of the neck. All the blood in the body passes through the thyroid gland every 17 minutes. Because the cells making up this gland have an affinity for iodine, during this 17-minute passage the gland's secretion of iodine kills weak germs that may have gained entry into the blood through an injury to the skin, the lining of nose or throat, or through absorption of food from the digestive tract. Strong, virulent germs are rendered weaker during their passage through the thyroid gland. With each 17 minutes that rolls around they are made still weaker until finally they are killed if the gland has its normal supply of iodine. If it does not, it cannot kill harmful germs circulating in the blood as Nature intended it should."


6. Magnesium Therapy as advocated by Dr. Carolyn Dean This therapy is very effective for me, because I have a soda addiction, and I was noticing pains in my hips, and having chest pains, from my laryngitis infection. I suspect calcium was being leeched from my bones due to my soda addiction, which would explain the hip pains, and the chest pains were caused by the laryngitis. After supplementing with a powdered vitamin containing Magnesium and Calcium the hip pains disappeared, and the chest pains and spasms where gone too. I believe explanation for, the chest pains being gone is explained on page 193-194 of Caroyln Dean's book "Magnesium Miracle":

" Magnesium is an excellent treatment for asthma because it is a bronchodilator and an antihistamine, naturally reducing histamine levels in the body. It has a calming effect on the muscles of the bronchial tubes and the whole body. Certainly, drug therapy for asthma can often be lifesaving;drugs however, are not curative. You have to eliminate the underlying cause of asthma and replace magnesium to fully treat this condition. Another study showed a correlation between intracellular magnesium levels and airway spasms. The investigators found that patients who had low cellular magnesium levels had increased bronchial spasm. This finding confirmed only only that magnesium was useful in the treatment of asthma by dilating the bronchial tubes but that lack of magnesium was probably a cause of this condition."

Please note that I tried the transdermal Magnesium Chloride therapy as advocated by Mark Sircus, BUT I STOPPED USING IT BECAUSE IT BURNS MY SKIN. I prefer to take magnesium powders that were designed to absorb well and taste good, combined with angstrom magnesium instead, because it is easier to do it that way. Approximately 2-3 teaspoons of a Magnesium/Calcium formula should be taken 5 hours apart. The angstrom magnesium can also be taken after the powdered magnesium, because it does not have a laxative effect, and is rapidly absorbed. Magnesium Chloride just doesn't seem to work for me.
Grade: A

7.Clay Baths- Clay baths perhaps work, but I stopped using them, because THEY ARE A PAIN IN THE XXX TO DO. Clay bath therapy requires you to put the clay in a blender, and there is a risk of the clay damaging your piping system. It's a total pain in the XXX to do clay baths, because it makes such a mess. Grade: D-

8. Zappers, and a Rife Machine. These therapies had zero benefit for me, and are very expensive. Maybe, it's because I just didn't have the patience for it though. But these therapies are very time consuming, like 1-2 hours a day is required, and I didn't want to just sit around zapping myself all day.
Grade: D-

9. Oral chelation products such as spirulina, and chlorella. I couldn't stand the taste, and could not complete the therapy. Maybe, they work, maybe they don't so
Grade: D-

10. Omega 3 fish oil. No effect. Grade: F

11. Olive Leaf therapy as advocated by Mortan Walker I took 6 capsules a day with no benefit as instructed in the book. Sometimes I took 24 capsules a day just to see what would happen. Unfortunately, this therapy did not work for me even though it as advertised as highly effective against infection. Maybe, it works, maybe it doesn't Grade: D-

12. Hulda Clark Liver Flush. This therapy does work, and I indeed have liver stones come out. After you do enough flushes the stones stop coming out. It had no effect on my lungs and vocal cords, but my sinuses became less clogged up afterwords.
Grade: A

13. Modified Hulda Clark Liver Flush combined with Coconut Oil. There was this one time I decided to do a crazy experiment. Basically, I just did a regular Hulda Clark liver flush, except I removed the grapefruit, and combined the olive oil with coconut oil. THIS IS AN EXTREME HARDCORE THING TO DO, AND YOU SHOULD NOT DO IT UNLESS YOU HAVE DONE A LIVER FLUSH BEFORE, AND ITS YOUR DAY OFF SO YOU CAN SPEND HOURS AT THE TOILET. What I did was I took 2 teaspoons of epsom salts in water. The Epsom salts should clear out the bowels after 6-8 hours. Then I drank 5 ounces of Olive Oil, waited 4 hours. Next, I drank 4-6 ounces of coconut oil, and waited 8 hours. Then I drank 2 teaspoons of epsom salts in water, AND THEN MY FRIENDS HOURS UPON HOURS OF TOILET HELL INSUED. My stomach was in pain for hours, but I did clean out a lot of parasites doing that flush( the parasites were clearly visible to my naked eye), but I only did it once and decided not to do it again lol. I suspect the olive oil opens up the bile ducts and liver, and the coconut oil kills off the parasites. Typically, people are told to use a dewormer for 30 days before doing the liver cleanse instead of using coconut oil at the same time as the olive oil. I think I figured out why that one time, I did that extreme flush lol. Grade: A

14. Sauna Therapy- This therapy I noticed clears up my sinuses right after I exit the sauna. I recommend you just buy your own sauna and leave it in your garage though, instead of using the gyms sauna, because there was always some weirdo at 24hour fitness. Who wants to talk to some douchebag at 24hour fitness in the sauna when your detoxing right? I feel sauna therapy is better than oral chelation, because you only have to buy a sauna once, and you don't have to keep buying the chelation product over and over. Additionally, saunas don't make a big mess like clay baths do.
Grade: A

15. Rawfood Vegan- Due to my current level of spiritual development, and psychological condition, I don't have the discipline to stick to a rawfood vegan diet. But at least on the flip side when I avoid certain foods, I am not producing mucus out of my nose constantly.

16. Orthomolecular Therapy- I actually tried intravenous hydrogen peroxide, and ultraviolet blood irridiation, it provided some short term relief, but was to damn expensive for me to use long term. The stuff costs $120 per infusion, and it's simply out of reach of the average middle class person, and mostly only for the rich.

17. MMS Therapy- Tried it briefly, but could not stand the taste. Grade: D-

So in conclusion if you have the chronic laryngitis and copd types caused by infection, I would recommend going straight to the iodine therapy, magnesium therapy, and sauna therapy. That's what I noticed the biggest improvement using. Nebulized colloidal silver is okay, but I think iodine is better still, since you can just drink it in a few seconds, instead of spending 20 minutes nebulizing the CS. Plus the iodine stays in your system longer then the colloidal silver.

Replied by Steve M
Brisbane, Qld
Hi, I'm 47, male and have COPD. I've been a very heavy smoker for most of my adult life. I have asthma also. Recent xrays of my lungs, show all are clear. Having read this info, I have ordered some DMSO to try with my nebuliser at a 1:1 ratio with water or saline solution.

My only real concern, is if I DON'T have any (or much) tar in my lungs, will the DMSO be doing any damage to the surface of them?

Replied by Freda
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
This message is for : Ted from Bangkok, Thailand 01/27/2008:. In your post RE: DMSO and MSM you say that it will help with copd, Can you specifically tell me if you still believe this and if you do can you give me the amounts to be taken. I have tried asking others for help to no avail. Do you still believe in this method will work for COPD???
Replied by Richard
Dallas, Texas
Ted's nebulizer remedy for COPD. At 54 years old I have been smoking since in my mama's womb. With Ted recommending using DMSO cut with water in a nebulizer why not cut it with a H202 (hydrogen peroxide) solution?

I just began on this date cutting 90% DMSO with a 3% H202 solution and rubbing it on my chest/lung area with hopes of breaking up the tar in my lungs. (I understand that there has been tremendous success with emphysema patients through intravenous H202, however I can not afford this route at this time. ) This 3% was made from cutting 35% food grade H202 with distilled water. I also add 2oz of full 35% H202 to 1 (glass) gallon of distilled water for drinking.


I have yet to use the nebulizer but will begin experiments today as explained by Ted. As a side note I also take 3 - 50mg of niacin (the flushing kind) every 3 hours to open up my capillaries and thereby getting more blood/oxygen throughout my li'l ol' body. This is a fascinating vitamin. Be careful with how much you take as it causes increased blood flow and thereby may cause you to turn red.

To your health quest,

Richard - Dallas, Texas

Replied by Linda
Deming, NM, USA
From this post I cannot locate any reference to anyone actually using this therapy and the results and side effects if any. Could ANYONE who has tried the dmso nebulized please post relevant results. My husbands health is fragile and I am hesitant to try this until I can see if anyone has had success or problems. Thanks to anyone who can update this subject. Linda
Replied by Tricia
West Newfield, Maine
Hi Ted, I was wondering what the right dose for dmso in a nebulizer. I'm a 44 year old female, 5'1" 105lbs. Also want to know how often and how long I should do this treatment.Thank you for your help. Tricia

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Posted by Bill (Lemolia, MO) on 06/22/2009


Hello Ted and EarthClinic -- Here are some results from Ted's COPD remedy (DMSO and MSM). These tests and results are not very scientific, but we did follow most of Ted's suggestions. TWO middle-aged males --Former Long Term Smokers-- tried the following:

1.) Drank ONE TABLEspoon of (powdered) MSM in 8 oz glass of water. (This stuff tastes TERRIBLE! May try mixing with juice next time.) 30 minutes later, we each inhaled FIFTY (50) deep breaths of 30% DMSO to 70% water. Neither of us noticed any immediate results.

2.) 5 Hours later, we each inhaled ONE HUNDRED (100) deep breaths from the nebulizer, with the same dilution ratio -- Neither of us noticed any immediate results.

3.) DAY TWO: We each inhaled ONE HUNDRED FIFTY (150) deep breaths from the nebulizer, only at 70% DMSO to 30% water. (NOTE: This may be over the ratio that Ted recommends) Still no results were evident. We were hoping for more noticeable/immediate results, but I believe we just didn't stay with it long enough.

4.) We each tried 70% DMSO to 30% water in an ATOMIZER (Nasal type --Afrin bottle-- DO NOT INHALE THROUGH THE NOSE IF YOU TRY THIS--MOUTH ONLY!!) Each took a VERY DEEP BREATH while getting 5-6 pumps out of the ATOMIZER. (THIS ALSO TASTED UNBELIEVABLY BAD!). Still, no obvious results.

We are suspending our experiments until we decide which approach to continue. I WILL POST ANY ADDITIONAL RESULTS, OR COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM TED. Thanks to EARTHCLINIC AND TED !!

I will email this to Ted and hope he can add some additional comments or suggestions. My questions to Ted, his availability allowing are:

1.) Should we continue with 150 deep inhales of 70% DMSO per day?
2.) If so, about how many days of treatment until we would expect some results?
3.) What are your thoughts on the 70% DMSO/30% water via ATOMIZER?
4.) Are the MSM AND NIACIN (500 MG/DAY, NON TIME RELEASE) crucial to success?
5.) Any other comments or suggestions?

Replied by Bill
Lemolia, MO

A DMSO may dissolve the tar if the congestion is caused by a tar. If the lungs were damaged physically of non tar in nature, the DMSO won't work. A curcumin taken a couple of times a day or a curcumin mixture with DMSO appears more suitable. A 70% DMSO may hurt the throat or lungs as concentration maybe too high for some people.

1.) Should we continue with 150 deep inhales of 70% DMSO per day?

Most improvement appears that some DMSO was taken internally and some DMSO nebulizers were used but the improvement is a gradual one. A clogged capillaries or a damaged one can be due to tar, calcium or tissue damage. A tissue damage then some healing is needed with a curcumin supplements.

2.) If so, about how many days of treatment until we would expect some results?

It takes at least a month. A short term two or three days would get any results. It's done gradually.

3.) What are your thoughts on the 70% DMSO/30% water via ATOMIZER?

Some people don't like the 70% DMSO as it stings their nose and throat. While its result maybe faster, it maybe irritating.

4.) Are the MSM AND NIACIN (500 MG/DAY, NON TIME RELEASE) crucial to success?

I don't like Niacin use because of the flush, but I do like the addition of MSM and DMSO. A niacin use may help some breathing but never time release. An aspirin taken 30 minutes before a niacin used will stop the flush and may help the capillary circulation into the lungs to be return to some extent by clearing some blocked circulation. But this doesn't resolve the calcification that may occur also.

5.) Any other comments or suggestions?

A damage lung tissue requires healing, and this is where curcumin comes in, taken internally or perhaps what I am looking into is the possibility of adding only a small amount of curcumin as a nebulizer. That's just the current possibilities I am looking into. If it take years for COPD to happen getting results in a matter of days is not possible. An objective measure appears to be a blood oxygen test but after a month's of use. Not all COPD are due to tar, but can also be tissue damage in the lungs, and hence the curcumin. A capillaries may be clogged not from the tar, but also fats and calcium has to be considered also.


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