Table of Contents
- QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
- Apple Cider Vinegar
- Biting and Crawling Mites
- Bleach in Bath Water
- Borax, Tea Tree Oil, H2O2, Vitamin E
- Brewer's Yeast
- Coconut Oil, Tomato Juice
- Denatured Alcohol
- Diagnosing Mites
- Diatomaceous Earth, Peppermint and Oregano Oils
- Disinfectant, Hair Dryer
- Essential Oils
- General Feedback
- Hair Dryer
- Homeopathic Remedies
- Hydrogen Peroxide, Borax
- Hydrogen Peroxide, Coconut Oil
- Ionic Silver and Vaseline
- Jan's Recipe
- Lamp Oil, Borax
- Lemon Juice in Shampoo
- Listerine, Eliminate Sugar
- Mite Infestation Bath Remedies
- Multiple Remedies
- Mustard Powder
- Neem Oil
- Oregano Oil
- Over the Counter
- Quassia Wood Chips
- Remedies Needed
- Skin Scraping Test
- Steam and Vacuum
- Tea Tree Oil
- Ted's Remedies
- Ted's Remedies Reader Feedback
- Walking Dandruff Remedies
- Yogurt With Cinnamon
Coconut Oil, Tomato Juice
[YEA] 01/29/2013: Fran from Rocky Face, Ga: "Half coconut oil and half tomatoe juice helped a friend of mine that was suffering from what we believe to be mites
[YEA] 06/18/2013: Court from Vista, Ca, Usa: "I have found after suffering -and trying assorted remedies this has WORKED
for mite infestation - denatured alcohol in a spray bottle all areas - couches, beds, floors , mats outside of doors and carpets wont hurt or stain fabric or leathers evaporates quickly
15.00 a gallon at most home centers -get enough to do it twice depending on the size of your house and how many beds , ect (i used aprox a gallon per application 1200 sqft house )make sure all your windows are open when you spray -hope I dont need to say... Don't smoke while applying or near open flame. It kills the buggers instantly and the second time gets the offspring that were eggs.
do it twice 4-6 days apart
almost instant relief- breakes the mite lifecycle
Bathe in Dr. Bonners peppermint casile soap 3 capfuls to a bathtub 1 time a dayand within 1-2 days you will start to heal with no new bites
As I said this WORKS is relatively inexpensive and saves you from having to hear it's all in your head - you are crazy, you cannot see these lil buggers with the naked eye but they bite and burrow lay eggs move and do it again so I hope my experience helps some of you desperate to be free from this.
08/21/2013: Koni from Ottumwa, Ia replies: "I do also believe I have a mite infestation. Been going on over a year. Even moved and got rid of lots of furniture. Unfortunately, it came with us. I have lost 40 pounds and other heath issues since this whole nightmare started. Have spent thousands of dollars on exterminators, Dr. Bills. All the drs. stated all in my head. My question is Denatured Alcohol different than the regular rubbing alcohol you buy at the store? For we tried that and that only helped temporarily. Back feeling bites within less than hr.?"
10/04/2013: Dana from Qld., Australia replies: "In Australia, denatured alcohol is called Metho. metholated spirits."
11/19/2009: Eve K from Houston, Tx, Usa: "Hi all, I am wondering if I may have some type of mite infestation? How does one determine what type of mite it is? I notice the remedies are quite varied but seem to be directed at specific type of mites...
This summer, in the evenings, we usually sit on the patio for a little happy hour after work. This is between 6-7 pm. Summers (well, ALL seasons, actually) are very HUMID.
I noticed on several evenings that my right occipital orbit bone would become quite itchy and irritated but there was no obvious bite. I thought it was some kind of tiny mosquito, biting gnat or something like that, but it made no sense that it would always be in the exact same place. Occasionally there is a similar itchy spot along my right temple at the hairline.
Tonight, it is too cold to be outdoors, but the itching started in the same old place. The orbit bone is quite puffy and red, my whole right cheek is flushed red (no alcohol tonight so that is not the reason!) and there are two little bloody spots like pin pricks.
The left cheek was a little flushed but not itchy and no obvious bites. I really don't want this thing to spread, it would be a nightmare.
Two other things--I have an inside dog but have had him for 11 years. He doesn't seem any itchier than normal...
Also, this year, we started using a clothesline to dry our clothes and towels, especially during the drought when it was pretty hot and sunny all day, really saved on our electric bill. The line runs from the house to a big pecan tree that is heavily inhabited by squirrels and we also have a lot of birds in our yard (all kinds from sparrows to cardinals to hummers to owls). On at least one occasion, I had to rewash towels that had been hanging on the line due to being soiled with some kind of animal droppings...
I just washed all my towels and pillow cases in super hot water and washed my face with ACV followed with a layer of coconut oil.
This is a long post but I would appreciate any input.
Thanks and thanks, Earth Clinic, for this amazing site!!"
11/21/2009: Gaynor from Manaton, Devon Uk replies: "Eve,
You should try Ted's remedy below for dermodex mites borax and hydrogen peroxide- this works well for killing these nano- insects. I am in the process of treating myself presently. Best of luck.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand writes: "Consider taking borax. Some people believed the demodex mites are responsible for rosacea. They may be right. But, there are others too that are not yet identified. I prefer to lump all these insect issues to just one category: nanoinsects. These insects have several weakness that you can kill them, or at least weaken them. One obvious ones is borax. The treatment can be broken down to two things;
1. Taken internally: Try 1/8 teaspoon to 1/4 teaspoon of borax in one liter of water/day. You just drink this water throughout the day. If it runs out then drink just normal water, with some magnesium added if possible. Magnesium is found in certain seeds such as sunflower. They seem to be synergistic with the vitamin D as vitamin D promotes calcium and the body needs to balance both magnesium and calcium to an ideal amount.
2. Used externally: Dog mange is confirmed demodex mites and the only treatment that effectively cured of dog mange is 1% hydrogen peroxide and borax saturated solution applied topically. Many people believe the demodex mites is the cause of rosacea. What I am sure about is it is an insect issue. The method of killing them is external application of 1% hydrogen peroxide with borax saturated solution to the face, unrinsed. It tends to cause drying. So you can apply appropriate lotions to prevent drying, such as jojoba oil, aloe vera or lavender oil."
01/14/2010: Ruth from Hobart, Tasmania replies: "Oh this is the remedy including borax, didnt see it earlier, thank you!"
01/17/2010: Ruth from Hobart, Tasmania replies: "How long do you keep the saturated solution with 1% peroxide on face for please Ted? I have had worsening roseacea since mite insect population exploded. Maybe I have the Demodex mites but how come none of the 12 medical people I saw suggested that? I understand that chinese medics say sugar is red on skin (dairy is white patches) I love sweet foods as much as I try not to I feel it' s a sugar issue, myself -the rosecea I mean but this is all interesting-well not that interesting-I could be doing alot of other things! Thank you, Ruth"
01/18/2010: Tricia from Ireland replies: "Ted's recomendation is to leave it on the skin but because it made my skin look dry I put it on at night and washed it off in the morning. I kept up the regime nightly for 1 month the went to every second night for 2 weeks, every third night for 2 weeks and tapered off.
I don't believe mine was a sugar issue and mites will attach to easy healthy option before they'll go for hard to grip damaged or oily skin that they find difficult to latch onto.
Also, use and change your pillowcases, i.e use 1 side tonight other tomorrow then change to prevent reinfection. Your pillowcases may lighten from the concoction so use old ones."
01/19/2010: Ruth from Hobart, Tasmania replies: "Thanks Tricia, I'm concerned at ingesting Borax after pharmacist warning that it accumulates as poison in body?"
01/19/2010: Tricia from Ireland replies: "I honestly can't say whether the borax was dangerous or not. I'd love to have the chemical background that some of the other posters have to be able to know for certain but I can tell you that it didn't adversely affect me. I still continue to use it 2 days a week in a litre of water. Somewhere on this site a poster mentions the LD50(the amount it will take to kill you) of borax but I can't remember where it is.
My worry at the start was "did the borax or peroxide have stabilisers added that would be harmful". So I rang the company and said I was doing an educational project to find out what was added. The answer was nothing so I guessed that with the amount of posters that had successfully ingested and knowing what to watch out for thanks to the warnings pages I would jump in with both feet.
I imagine that most people start a borax regime with trepidation."
05/04/2010: Eden from Mesa, Az replies: "What about the hair?"
10/14/2011: Anne from Amsterdam, Ny Usa replies: "Again, has anyone had success treating bird mites that have gone internal? I have altered my diet, gone more alkaline, no red meat, very little animal protein, MSM, vitamin c, cal/mag/zinc supplement, vitamin D, good yogurt, flaxseed oil and a multi-vitamin supplement. I am still infested, and want to begin the borax treatment, but am not sure what to expect..."
12/16/2011: David from Dublin, Co. Dublin, Ireland replies: "In keeping with EC guidelines I've not been posting my progress here daily. However, I'm now on Day 7 of Ted's remedy and I feel I should report my experience so far:
The remedy: I dissolve 1/4 teaspoon of pharmaceutical-grade borax in one litre of water and sip it throughout the day. Additionally, I drink 1/2 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate in 1/2 glass of water twice daily.
I also drink unpasteurised ACV "with mother" in a glass of warm water three times daily with meals, two tablespoons of food-grade diatomaceous earth in water daily, one high quality multi-nutrient capsule daily (contains all the vitamins, minerals, and trace elements), two cups of green tea daily, two chewable calcium tablets for my osteoporosis (I think it's inorganic but I can't find the organic variety in Ireland), and a clove of raw garlic every second day. Lunch is a heap of cucumber, an apple, a clementine, and a banana. I also eat dark chocolate every now and again. Daily, I drink yoghurt with plant sterols (for my high cholesterol).
I've cut out coffee (which I really, really miss), sugar, bread, and cheese (which I also miss badly) and the only milk I consume is on my breakfast bran flakes. I don't eat butter.
Day 1: I had a dramatic drop in the number of tickles - down to less than 100 from well over 1, 000.
Day 2: Was not as good as Day 1 but I believe more insects are being driven out onto the surface of my skin and of course a new clutch of eggs "comes online" every day. I also noticed that urinating created lots of bubbly suds in the toilet bowl.
Day 3: Was the same as Day 2 except that the timings of my tickle onslaughts changed. Mornings were now much busier while afternoons were relatively peaceful until dusk. At full nightfall they quietened again until 8. 30, then got busy again till midnight when they started to taper off.
Day 4: Was the same as Day 3 except the suds disappeared from the toilet bowl and my urine was now pale green, the exact same colour as my sebaceous plugs.
Day 5: The suds returned with urine still green. But something happened that's never happened before: normally, I've always been able to halt a tickle onslaught on my scalp and face during the day by going outdoors into the light. At night, going outside into the cold air also stopped them (they love heat and relative dark - a demodex mite trait). The day was sunny but freezing cold with a high wind chill when I went out for my afternoon walk. The tickles continued unabated.
Day 6: I didn't go outdoors (rain) but the timings remained the same. Less suds and urine not so green. Tickles seem less intense and plugs that were hard and solidly embedded in my skin were now softer and could be fairly easily removed with a fingernail. The objects they contain are blackened and seem malformed. Fewer trips to the bathroom to brush wandering mites off my abdomen, groin, scrotum, perineum, and buttocks, and remove them from my anus. Almost all the astonishing amounts of scurf that used to coat the wash-basin when I washed my face and scalp (I shave my head nightly) has disappeared. My skin feels much softer and the orange-peel texture is fading.
Day 7 (today): Same timings but tickle numbers slightly reduced so far. Less suds and urine less green.
I seem to have plateau'd at a better but still unacceptable level and it's unclear how long I should continue with Ted's remedy. But since demodex females can live for up to 60 days, three months would seem a good idea.
Some people here reported adding a capful of hydrogen peroxide to the borax mix so I googled it and found nothing but warnings. Until I found this astonishing website:
Don't bother reading the site or viewing the video but download the PDF file from the Free eBook link - it contains more information. Apparently, since 1888, doctors (and even some hospitals) all over the world have been using H2O2 (reagent or food-grade) orally, topically - and now via intravenous or intra-arterial infusions - to successfully cure (yes, cure) all sorts of serious conditions including cancers and heart disease that don't respond to radiation or drugs. Illnesses cured also include parasitic infestations.
The PDF contains a long list of American doctors (with telephone numbers) who regularly use H2O2 therapy with astonishing success rates. It even includes instructions on how doctors should proceed with this infusion treatment.
The PDF is free, the website sells nothing, and carries no ads.
I've ordered 35% food-grade H2O2 from the UK (http://bobbys-healthy-shop.co.uk/) as well as a countertop water distiller. I also emailed the site owner (James Roguski, who seems to be a scientist) to find out how best I should proceed. I'm still awaiting a reply.
Things are definitely better than they were before I started Ted's remedy but I propose to try the oral H2O2 as an adjunctive therapy to speed things up. If Mr. Roguski tells me that the oral route won't work optimally, I'm prepared to travel to the ends of the earth to find a doctor who will do this infusion technique. I've now been trying to deal with this 24/7 torture for two and half years, and thanks to the wonderful Ted, I've made significant progress. But I want these pests gone NOW so I can start trying to get my life back.
I've read Ted's warnings about drinking distilled water and they directly contradict the advice given by Vivian Goldschmidt MA (in Nutritional Sciences and Biochemistry) who runs a marvellous site for osteoporosis sufferers (http://saveourbones.com/) who advises us to drink only distilled water.
I'm taking my health back out of the hands of the quacks (doctors) who did so much damage to my health permanently and, to that end, I intend to drink food-grade hydrogen peroxide as well as baking soda for the rest of my life.
Now I just need to find a remedy for the chronic insomnia and tardive akathisia (inability to be still and constantly racing thoughts) due to brain chemistry damage inflicted by a year of Risperidone injections by the dermatologist who diagnosed delusional parasitosis. H2O2 is supposed to help rebalance brain chemistry. We'll see.
So that's where I am at the moment, still awaiting the delivery from the UK of my FG-H2O2 and my water distiller. I can't wait to get started...
Will keep you posted on progress."
12/19/2011: Dud from The Woods Of, Wv, Usa replies: "David from Dublin,
[this is a re-post, the 1st post got into the wrong thread]
You're doin good.
I downloaded the peroxide book, thanks for the tip.
Here is another easy protocol to add to your regimen, that may help your skin itches immensely:
Use the borax powder in a hot tub of water to soak in for 30 to 60 minutes. Soak in it every day, or every othe day. Use the time to relax. Most people get the bathtub water comfortably hot. The hot water alone helps the fibromyalgia symptoms [soreness]. The borax in the water will kill the mites externally, and under the skin. It is a fungicide & a bacteria-cide. Some people report seeing black specs, etc. , floating in the bath tub, coming out of their skin. Also add epsom salts [magnesium sulphate] to the soak water, to get it's benefits also. It has a drawing power to it. It is used by sports teams for sore mucles and bruises. Bangkok Ted recommends using the borax externally for mites in this manner. You should feel much better for a couple of hours after soaking in this. You mite kill off the biotics crawling on your skin.
possible amounts: borax: 4 tablesoons epsom salts: 1 quart
cost: about 50 cents U. S. For the borax, about $2 U. S. Dollars for the epsom salts. [in the USA]
Also; You may want to change the way you are using the vinegar internally. Do some Research on earhclinic.com on how to use it. Maybe switch to taking it 1 hour away from meals, instead of with meals. In general; taking it with meals is usually not recommended, because of it interfering with your food digestion. Mix it with about 6 ounces of water, adding 1/4 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate to it, to reduce the acidity of the vinegar, and to improve it's ability to alkalize the blood. Take this mixture about 1 hour away from meals.
However, if taking it with meals seems to help you, then go ahead and continue taking it that way.
Read more about the why & how of it by searching the earhclinic website for older messages. Bangkok Ted has explained this alkalizing method in great detail in past messages.
12/22/2011: David from Dublin, Co. Dublin, Ireland replies: "Many thanks for the tips, Dud. Unfortunately, I don't have a tub in my bathroom, just a shower stall. This has been a major hassle throughout this experience.
Now a tip for you and everyone else here ingesting hydrogen peroxide and baking soda at the same time.
Don't. Sodium bicarbonate acts as a powerful antacid. This means there will still be undigested food in your stomach for longer than is normal and when the H2O2 hits it, if there's iron, manganese, copper, zinc, fats, or Vitamin C present in it, it will create very dangerous free radicals which can severely damage the lining of your stomach.
You also need to carefully examine the list of ingredients of any supplement you may be taking for the things mentioned above and if it's the "slow-release" type, stop taking it as well while on H2O2.
I can say this with certainty because it happened to me yesterday.
Full story is here: Hydrogen Peroxide Cures
I find this website very confusing. Information on a subject seems to be spread out all over the place. For instance, on the above-linked thread, Bill from the Phillipines says you should only take borax water for five consecutive days, then take a two-day break. That information is nowhere to be found in this thread on Ted's Remedies. Nor does Ted say how long you should take it for.
And I've been unable to find the proportions I should use of 1% H202 to saturated solution of borax for topical use. Nor how to make a saturated solution (we're not all science grads! ). Ted doesn't give that information here. Nor does he mention how many times it should be done, how frequently, or for how long.
Stay well and take care."
12/25/2011: David from Dublin, Co. Dublin, Ireland replies: "OK, I found out the exact mix for dog mange using borax and hydrogen peroxide on a blog-site whose owner used it on her own animals. I've been unable to find it again today to provide a link here but the gist of it is this:
1. Make up a 1% dilution of hydrogen peroxide either by adding two parts distilled water to one part 3% hydrogen peroxide (five parts water if using 6% HP, and 33 parts water if using 35% food-grade HP).
2. Measure out 48 fluid ounces of this and slowly add to it 8 ounces of borax powder. This should be enough to give you a saturated solution (there will be undissolved borax left in the bottom of the container - this means that the mixture is saturated). If you halve both of the above quantities, you can get enough to fill a 32-ounce spray bottle to about three-quarters. However, my spray bottle refused to work because of clogging caused by the undissolved borax powder, so you may have to remove the spray cap and pour it carefully into your cupped hand when applying.
Note: you do not need to use the entire bottle, just enough so you can thoroughly wet the skin and massage it in. I'm over six feet tall and fairly slim and I still have half a bottle left over after doing myself from head to foot.
3. Shower with tea tree shampoo all over and rinse off thoroughly but do not dry yourself.
4. Apply the mixture to your body starting with the neck, rubbing it in well, and work your way down to the soles of your feet. DO NOT RINSE. Be aware that if you apply this to your anus IT WILL STING - but this will pass in a minute or so. I did this as well as my scrotum because both these areas are considerably infested.
5. If you need to treat your scalp and face then YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST wear a good tightly-fitting and waterproof pair of swim goggles to prevent any of the mixture entering your eyes. The rubber-bodied ones are best because you can wet the insides before putting them on - then press on them when they're comfortable to create a suction effect around the eyes. Only do fairly small patches of your scalp and forehead at a time using small amounts to help prevent liquid runoff. BUT BE VERY CAREFUL - if you do get some in your eyes, IMMEDIATELY rinse them out with running warm (not hot) water for 15 minutes.
6. Leave the goggles on and air-dry for 5-10 minutes. When you remove the goggles, you can then apply small amounts with your fingers to those areas on both sides and the back of your head that were covered by the goggle strap.
I did this last night because nausea has prevented me from ingesting borax water for the past four days and my mites were making a substantial resurgence which was preventing me from sleeping. I applied it into both ear canals and just inside each nostril entrance without any problems.
I'm not recommending the following to anyone but I also managed to do my eyebrows (which are very infested - I now only have half-eyebrows left due to their follicle destruction) and areas reasonably close to my eyes by bending over at 90 degrees from the waist, wetting my finger with the mix and thoroughly shaking off any excess drops so my finger was just damp, then massaging it very carefully into those areas as many times as necessary.
My results were that all mite activity stopped, enabling me to sleep.
Today has been very good. I have had only two groin tickles and about 50 on my scalp and face. I intend to treat only those areas again tonight before bedtime because I'm still too nauseous to resume the internal borax remedy (my Christmas "dinner" today was two slices of dry bread, a yoghurt drink, and a glass of milk). Plus, my sensitive skin has always rebelled against daily showering.
For dogs, the blogger recommends all-over application every second day. Ted recommends that for humans, application should be done "several" times a day. I think I'll pass on that because of my sensitive skin and the extreme drying effect that this remedy has.
For this drying, Ted recommends topical oils, particularly lavender oil because demodex mites apparently hate the smell of it. My own past experience with oil-based topicals has been that demodex mites just love it, including neem oil - besides your sebaceous glands, they also feed on your sebaceous oil. So I'm now looking for a non-oil based moisturising/soothing compound with which to mix the lavender oil. (Remember that lavender oil is an essential oil and so must be well diluted before application). I don't know what proportions to use because, again, Ted doesn't mention them, but I'm sure I'll find them on the internet.
I hope this information is useful to someone. If you decide to do this, please remember to BE VERY CAREFUL OF YOUR EYES because hydrogen peroxide - even a 1% dilution - can damage them irreparably. So stay in the shower stall until you're air-dried. That way, you'll have immediate access to fast-running warm water should you need it. I sincerely hope you don't.
Take care and stay well."
12/25/2011: Dud from The Woods Of, Wv, Usa replies: "In reply to - David from Dublin, Co. Dublin, :
I have come across a free 28 page report on the internet, which mite [no pun intended] explain several of your symptoms, and how to fix them. This includes
1. sleeping problems
2. mind racing, & brain fog
3. nervous system problems, anxiety, being hyper-active, etc.
4. immune system destruction and all the symptoms that follow that
5. headaches , etc etc
The causation maybe radio-frequency emmissions from inside and outside your home. Microwaves from cell phone towers, etc etc etc. Read the full report at: http://www.keephopealive.org/j2009v7n4.html"
12/26/2011: David from Dublin, Co. Dublin, Ireland replies: "Thanks for the link to this, Dud. It's fascinating stuff. About two years ago, a telecom tried to build a new tower about 1, 000 yards from my home but the local residents mounted a campaign to have them stopped. They succeeded. The nearest tower to me now is about a 20-minute walk away.
Having said that, this tower was present before my insect invasions started and I had no problem in sleeping for nine hours each night and no problem in going back to sleep after getting up to visit the bathroom. My problem started with the nighttime activities of the bedbugs and fleas, then the scabies, then the demodex. And they segued into the sleep disturbance caused by the anti-psychotic Risperidone.
I've saved this article as a PDF though and will try some of the tips outlined.
You've reminded me though that I tried an experiment early on in the demodex infestation. I bought an emergency sleeping bag, rather than a flat emergency blanket, and slept naked in it to see if it would have any effect. Back then I was getting what I called "swarms" every third or fourth night. This was a deeply unpleasant and intense body-wide sensation of fizzing and popping which would wake me up immediately. (I subsequently discovered that this was a large number of insects either hatching or crawling out onto the surface of my skin at the same time).
When I started sleeping in the emergency bag, all mite activity on my body stopped immediately, but my head (which, naturally, was exposed) became the target for these "swarms" instead. I remember waking up one night in a fit of sneezing with this going on - some of the mites had crawled really far up inside my nostrils and caused it.
As well as this problem, these bags are not designed for sleeping but for a fully-clothed person to remain awake and warm in life-threatening weather conditions. As such, when you sleep naked in one, your perspiration and water vapour which is output via the skin is not wicked away as it would be with fabric, but pools instead and cools in the bag next to your skin. So you wake up cold and wet. Consequently, I stopped using it.
Thanks again, Dud, and Happy New Year!"
12/28/2011: Linda from San Francisco, Ca, Usa replies: "To Dave from Dublin,
Sorry to hear of your trouble, I have an idea which may help with the skin drying and mite problem.
If you were to use Castor Oil as a moisturizer, I am thinking that the natural Ricin in it may help to kill off those mites, as well as to moisturize your skin and prevent them from having a field day crawling around on you.
I don't know how your grocery markets are in Ireland, but here there are varying thicknesses of Castor oil available in grocery and health food stores, some are very thin in consistency which would be easy to spread onto your skin, and some are very thick and sticky like runny tar. For this, if it were me, I'd try the thin stuff first. The people who sell Edgar Cayce products also have it for sale on the web. They call it Palma Cristi.
I am wondering if it might not be a good idea to mix in a small amount of Borax into the Castor oil, if you can get any there. Only a small amount I am thinking, not enough to be unsightly on your skin.
If it were me, I'd also study other *nontoxic and natural* miticides, like the folks would use who have birds or other mite-challenged pets, to see which of them, if any, are safe for human topical use.
And set out Borax all over the floors, under mattresses, etc to kill off any adventurers.
My belief is that for every problem lifeform on earth, there is a naturally-occurring herb or substance which is safe, and which they will want to get away from. IMO you now get to create an environment on yourself where they would rather be somewhere else.
Might even be good to trap some of the mites off your skin, if that is possible, to test which human-safe substance might be of use in wiping them out.
I hope this helps.
12/29/2011: David from Dublin, Co. Dublin, Ireland replies: "@Linda from San Francisco: many thanks for the castor oil idea. I haven't heard of that dreaded stuff since I was a child a hundred years ago! But I've just done some preliminary research and it seems that castor oil is unusual in that it's able to readily penetrate the outer layer of skin due to its low molecular mass (whatever that means).
I'm not sure that adding borax would work since I don't know if there would be any molecular binding with the oil in order to carry it into the skin.
Hydrogen peroxide does this readily since the extra oxygen atom in it reacts with almost anything and brings it into your skin. The whitening of your skin when splashed with 3% hydrogen peroxide is due to those extra oxygen atoms that have just been delivered under the skin. It disappears in about 20 minutes or less as the oxygen is absorbed by the cells.
An unusual idea to use a powerful laxative on your skin, but I'll try anything within reason to be rid of these mites as quickly as possible. You can't buy stuff like this in Irish supermarkets but I'll ask my pharmacist about its availability and report back.
I've also found what seems to be a brand new way to kill these mites instantly apparently discovered by a member at the Lymebusters forum. It involves making a topical solution using dried mustard powder. I have more research to do before I try putting a known irritant like this into the skin all over my body.
Thank you again for the tip."
12/30/2011: David from Dublin, Co. Dublin, Ireland replies: "OK, the proportions of borax to water for the topical mange remedy I wrote above is wrong. I originally took it from a dog owner's blog who found most of it here but couldn't find the correct proportions as recommended by Ted, so she made up her own.
After searching this site for almost a week, I finally found Ted's recipe buried somewhere obscure here.
According to this, you use between 2-4 tablespoons of borax powder in one litre of 1% hydrogen peroxide solution made using distilled water (1 litre is almost 34 US fluid ounces or slightly more than 35 UK fluid ounces). According to Ted, "the borax need not be precise, it is always a saturated amount of borax until it no longer dissolves itself."
Using 8oz of borax, as I originally wrote, won't do any harm - it's just wasteful and the large amount of undissolved powder clogs up the spray bottle."
03/02/2012: Linda from San Francisco, Ca, Usa replies: "To Dave from Dublin, I had another couple of ideas; If you get pure 100% Clove Bud Essential Oil, it will blend directly into your Castor Oil and I think it will help. I would not exceed 1-7 drops max of Clove EO per ounce of castor oil if you do this. If you can't get Clove Bud EO, I would throw a dozen cloves (same ones you might find in the spice aisle at your local grocery and use for cooking/baking) into a blender with the castor oil or, better yet, crush or grind them fine as you can with a coffee grinder or mortar and pestle, then mix them into the castor. If you leave the blended cloves and castor in a clear glass container in a warm place (or maybe 12 hours in the Sun), it will transfer the clove essence throughout the castor, then squeeze it through a stocking or something and strain the clove debris out. Or, you could extract the crushed cloves into Vodka, and add tiny amounts of the resulting extract into your Castor oil, that should blend in and hold.
True that the Borax itself would not *dissolve* into the Castor Oil, but I was thinking more of using the Castor Oil as a simple "spreading tool" for the Borax, in addition to Castor Oil's own valuable insect-relieving properties.
Finally, I am thinking that Black Walnut Hull (tincture or a vodka (or ACV?) extract of it ) may be of some value to you also, Black Walnut gets rid of a lot of parasite/insect issues, Google it and lots of stuff should come up.
One more thing, have you tried soaking in a weak Borax solution, using it like a bath, without 'scrubbing' on your shower-sensitive skin? Might be another good thing to do, if you can do it.
My thoughts about the vaseline:
As a child I got chiggers from wading through high reeds at the local riverbank several times. I used to have to put nailpolish on the welts and lay on the roof of my Mother's house in the Sun to kill them off.
It only worked because the nail polish cut the chiggers off from their air supply and they smothered as a result. So I think the purpose of the vaseline is to keep the mites from breathing. And I think it would take a thick coat of vaseline to do that. IOW I think that *wiping off* the vaseline (effectively leaving only a thin coat behind) would actually prevent it from being successful, and just cause an inconvenient mess for you while a large percentage of the mites go happily on.
I hope some of these ideas are useful for you. Please respond with your results if you use them. Be careful with the clove, use less rather than more until you see how your skin responds to it.
Note about Mustard: It can burn you (I understand that desperation breeds a willingness to try anything. Therefore I am urging you to exercise caution). I would be *very* careful about using it. JMHO. Patch test on tiny area of skin, etc- A good rule of thumb for everything in this email, BTW.
02/16/2013: Lou from Tyler, Tx replies: "@David from Dublin You might want to read the book Use Your Brain to Change Your Age (Amazon). I just got the book, but haven't read it yet. There was a couple hour long special on our public TV station and the author did a presentation showing how some people's brains have actual pockets or holes in them. He tells how to improve your brain and make it healthy again. I too am up all night long and can't sleep at times. My mind races terribly. I sleep with the TV on. I have been setting the timer for 90 minutes so it shuts off and I can get some quiet time. It's a bad habit, I know. Hope the books helps. You may want to try a small glass of tart cherry juice at dinner time. Then power down your electronics at 8 p.m. or so."
05/05/2013: Braveheart from Vancouver, Bc replies: "I have found a very easy way to tell if human have mites but since we all have them it is pretty much just a fast way to confirm. Shower/bath like normal or if you want add a couple of tea tree drops to your bathing products or 20 to your espson salt bath. :) afterwards even if you do none of that slather yourself with organic coconut oil (or any other oil you have like almond, olive, macadamian nut, castor - all good) then get the camera ready! Here they come, they all come squirming out of your pores. Hundreds came out of me. I've been doing this morning and night for 4 days and only this morning have they started to be countable like 60 etc. The tea tree oil kills the eggs too and massage yourself firmly and watch them come out it is disgustingly spectacular. Some get stuck in pores and cause breakouts. I did this to my whole family and we all had them come out. My son's arm was bumpy with the keratonisis and they squirmed out of there. I had lots come out of my feet most on uppper thighs and some out of my eye area that had been twitching and then finally the twitching stopped! Fantastic, please do it and tell everyone you know to do it. Thank you!! :)"
Diatomaceous Earth, Peppermint and Oregano Oils
[YEA] 12/28/2008: Pamela from Houston, Texas: "Thanks for Earth Clinic I was totally free from mites pick up from handling fire wood. My doctor had prescribed medication that I had read on Earth Clinic was very toxic and didn't work that well. I didn't want any part of this if I could avoid it. I also read someone on Earth Clinic recommended Diatomaceous Earth which I have used for years for internal parsites with great success. I decided to try the diatomaceous earth first. Wasn't real sure it would work because the mites are in my skin not inside of me. Since diatomaceous earth is non toxic I wanted to try it first. Have to interject I did try other topical remedies - different essential oils and others things with no relieve. I am amazed in 3 days of diatomaceous earth no mites. I took 1 heaping teaspoon in a half of glass of water a day. I did have trouble with the mites remaining in my hands. I read in the Young Living desk reference book that equal amounts of peppermint oil and oregano oil would kill chiggers or ticks. I mix these two together and experienced lots of itching for about 30 seconds and then they died. Thanks Earth Clinic and all of those who post here."Replies
12/28/2008: Pamela from Houston, Texas replies: "I forgot to mention that I used FOOD Grade Diatomaceous Earth. It is real important to use food grade DE and not commerical DE."
[BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS] 06/27/2009: Angieb123 from Salem, OR replies: "I have been suffering with bird mites from coming into contact with infected birds. I have tried almost everything. I have tried Diatomaceous Earth and it seemed to work although I was tired of dust being in my hair and throat and I have these bugs all over me and the kids. Has anyone had any success killing bird mites?"
09/02/2010: Tina from Toledo, Ohio, Usa replies: "Can you tell me where to get Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth? thanks"
EC: Check Google Shopping
Disinfectant, Hair Dryer
[YEA] 06/21/2008: Arlisa from Gloucester, U.S.: "Bed Bugs: I used disinfectant spray, then dried it with a hair dryer, replaced my mattresses and they disappeared."
01/12/2013: Nelly from Seattle, Wa: "I just consulted with a naturopath here in Seattle who said, emphatically, please do NOT ingest essential oils, especially these listed here (clove, cinnamon, etc. ) They are very caustic and can cause kidney and liver damage.
01/13/2013: Mary from Yorkshire replies: "Does this apply to all essential oils. I was going to purchase some online and it said mix with rice milk or goats milk. I can't see how they would be able to advertise this if it were dangerous. Does anybody have an informed opinion."
03/04/2013: Jobugged from Los Angeles, Ca replies: "been using thieves oil for my immune system whenever something internal starts; it is largely clove and cinnamon oils. Is great. A couple of drops up to 3 times in 24 hours if I am feeling fluish; goes away. I don't do it every day but it is also recommended. Wouldn't worry unless you ar doing this all the time."
03/08/2013: Me from Philly, Pa replies: "I am trying to help as many people as I can. I discovered that if you dump benadryl liquid gel on your head the mites will come out and die. You should leave it on for a few minutes and them shampoo with 1/2 benadryl and 1/2 shampoo. Then brush. You will see them in the brush. Do it a few times if you have to. It works on your face too if you get pimples from the suckers. Also put it on your eybrows because they are there too. It draws the mites out of your pores on your face too."
[YEA] 01/14/2009: Paula from San Francisco, CA: "A good way to effectively kill all the bugs on your body is simply to bathe each night. The bugs cannot breath underwater. I also recommend using some eucalyptus, tea tree, or pennyroyal oil (toxic use with caution) along with a half a cup of vinegar in the bath as the bugs are not fond of the smell. Always wash your sheets and clothing frequently, and spray rugs and furniture with a mixture of rubbing alcohol, vinegar, tea tree, and either eucalyptus or pennyroyal oil. Only a few drops of each oil is needed."Replies
07/25/2011: Manamana from Dallas, Tx replies: "We've been bathing 3x daily and used tree oil, vinegar, eucaleptis(ms I'm sure.. ) to no avail. I'm ready to try the Borax!"
03/04/2013: Jobugged from Los Angeles, Ca USA replies: "best stuff I know is Nature's ERADICATOR, Multi-Purpose cleaner. I tried kleen free and kleen green and this is more potent and costs less.. Same enzyme cleaner that melts the mites, scabies, bedbugs etc.. You must ask for directions on application though! they act at a warmer temperature.
my only issue is getting them out of clothes etc.. I have been able to get them out of me, and then all my bedding is fine, but clothes?? I seem to be ready to start over on my wardrobe!!"
[YEA] 12/23/2011: G from Sydney, Nsw Australia: "Topical Garlic for Mites
Crush 4 large cloves of garlic & macerate with mineral oil(baby oil) or bath oil(bath oil is a soluble mineral oil, & for this application, worth the cost)
Let the mix steep for several hours, then crush through a fine sieve.
For mineral oil, add a little liquid soap or bath wash, to emulsify with water.
Add enough water to make the mix liquid, especially if you want to spray it on. Add some lemon juice to reduce the smell ( it does smell! The active part is apparently the smelly part, so no luck there). It may burn, so add as much water as you need.
Rub the mix wherever the mites are. They hate it & it kills them. They seem not to come back. Any further bites just rub with the oil, or hold them down with a garlicky finger. Mine would attach to the skin so I needed to scrape them back with a fingernail.
My infestation is probably bird mites & is highly resistant to permethrin products (applied in concentrations both absurdly high & totally irresponsible) & slightly deterred by tea tree oil but the garlic mix gets a whopping 9 dead bugs out of 10 for stopping power & revenge value.
Keep away from eyes!
The is adapted from a Depression era insecticide recipe which works really well.
Garlic stores it's winter food just above the ground, where all the bugs & bacteria live, so it's chemical protection needs to be good. The mite family has 50 000 species & pre-dates insects, so they know a thing or two about adapting to local conditions.
Hope this helps you murder those suckers."Replies
01/02/2012: G from Sydney, Nsw Australia replies: "Update. The garlic did work, for awhile. However now they are back & getting worse. I'm trying a number of other cures. If they work I'll post here."
[WORKED TEMPORARILY] 01/08/2012: Sandra from Nyc, Ny replies: "I had a similar experience with garlic. In my case, it worked only 1 night.
I had coated my entire body and head with coconut oil infused with raw garlic. That night, I slept so well. But the next night, despite the same garlic oil, the bird mites (I have yet to confirm that they are bird mites) swarmed and I had a miserable night."
01/09/2012: Dave from Vaaldam, Gp South Africa replies: "I have been using castor oil and citronella essential oil ( 10 drops to about 200ml oil) as a bath oil for some time now as an insect repellent. It is very effective against mosquitos and ticks so you might find it works for the mites. Also very good for the skin!"
03/21/2012: Jem from Annapolis, Maryland replies: "I should have started posting on here much earlier buttt..... Thank you for commenting that the garlic did not work more than once for you. The original listerine worked for two whole weeks, I've now added pine sol and so far so good. I use borax and windex, but the pine sol and listerine mix on my body and on my bedding/ couches etc has worked great. I will be trying the other remedies, but the natural remedies do not work on bird mites... or whatever it is that we have."
12/09/2011: David from Dublin, Ireland : "In May, 2009, my mother died in the hospice ward of a decrepit hospital that allows and encourages wild animals into its grounds right up to the building itself.
When they returned her clothing, I found three neatly-folded hospital blankets at the bottom of the bag. They were caked with mud, animal droppings, bloodstains, and unknown debris.
From that bag, my home was infested with bedbugs and permethrin-resistant fleas, and I was infested with scabies. For almost a year, two pest control companies couldn't eliminate the fleas. I finally imported diatomaceous earth from the US and they all died in four days.
The scabies were also permethrin-resistant (Lyclear Dermal Cream and Derbac M all failed) so I tried Kleen Green. Inside a month I was clear.
But I was left with incessant tickles, "stinging, " and crawling sensations, as well as a little itching.
Two dermatologists and a psychiatrist diagnosed delusional parasitosis. None followed the protocols for making such a diagnosis, none would examine my photographic images, and I was given anti-psychotic injections (Risperidone) for a year without my knowledge or informed consent and instructed to ignore the sensations as they were just "transient itches."
For the full horror story, as well as many images of insects in hair follicles and sebaceous plugs, damaged and discoloured skin, please visit my website:
Thanks to a kind commenter on my site, I found Earth Clinic and all these possible remedies from kind and helpful people.
Thanks to the ludicrous delusional diagnosis, these insects have now had two and half years to spread over my entire body, from scalp to soles of feet. The only areas they haven't populated are the palms of my hands and my penis. I even have them in my anus, up my nostrils, and in my ear canals. My skin everywhere is dry, flakey, and itching has increased. Life is hell.
I've been drinking unpasteurised ACV "with mother" for over a month (three tablespoons in warm water taken with food three times daily) and have noticed only a very slight improvement.
I also take two heaped tablespoons of food-grade diatomaceous earth in a half-pint of water at about 7:30 each evening.
I shave my head and face every night before bed with shaving oil, then apply a moisturiser with aloe vera.
I was about to start spraying my body with a 50/50 dilution of the ACV when I found Ted's internal borax and baking soda remedy. I'm about to go mix up my first batch now but I'm a bit confused.
1. How do you measure 1/4 of a teaspoon?
2. Another post here mentions adding a capful of 3% hydrogen peroxide to the water as well. Ted doesn't say to do this, so is it correct?
3. Ted's remedy on the Rosacea thread only mentions adding borax to the water - no baking soda. Why the difference?
4. In Ted's external borax remedy, he mentions using a "borax saturated solution" (what's that?) with 1% hydrogen peroxide but doesn't say what proportions of each to use. Anyone know the answer to this?
5. I'm 60 years old, osteoporotic, and partially disabled due to a spinal injury so there are parts of my body I can't reach. Consequently, I have to use a spray bottle or a long-handled applicator for my back. How important is it to massage this mixture into the skin? And how often should this external treatment be done?
Well, that's it for the moment. Thank you for your time, attention, and patience. I wish you all the very best of luck with these demons. And if you want to see the images the dermatologists turned their backs on, please check out my site."Replies
12/09/2011: Anon from Anon, Usa replies: "Hi. Very sorry to hear of this. I believe I have something like this also. I have drank Borax in a liter of water as well as bathed in it. It has seemed to help, but my most success came from putting Hairever scalp treatment on infested areas, this can be purchased from Puritan's Pride. I also have been washing with a lye soap called grandmas lye soap and it seems to help. I have heard that you can lather yourself from head to toe with vaseline for several hours and it will smother these critters. When I use the scalp treatment I seem to have these black specks come out of my skin. I also have the white pimple like bumps that looks like larva.
About the borax- 1/4 tsp. It is simple. Just get some measuring spoons ( like the ones used for cooking ) And get the one that says 1/4 tsp, dip it in the borax and get a level scoop and add this to a liter of water and drink throughout the day. The spoons are called measuring spoons. ( availiable where you get kitchen supplies like cookware )
I would like to mention that I would do everything I could to get my ph alkiline. This can be accomplished with baking soda taken interally. Read this site for now on. I have been studing on Earthclinic.com now for several years and have barely scratched the surface of what all is availiable here. There is so much on here, I could not even begin to tell you.
The vaseline petroleum jelly would be worth a shot and I would most certainly use the scalp treatment on the infected spots. If you have black specks come out of your skin, then we are dealing with the same critters. The scalp treatment penetrates the hair follicles and gets deep into the pores. Rub it in the skin for several minutesand then let it sit on the skin for about five minutes and wash off with some lye soap and a wash cloth or something to wash away the dry skin.
On this site if you study, you will find that disease, parasites and sickness cannot live in an alkaline body. Tons of info here. Learn to navigate this website.
Best of luck! You can reply to me anytime, because I am a daily reader on here. And I always will be. So feel free to post questions or comments anytime with the reference to skin mites or something like that so that it will catch my attention. I don't read every post on here, but ones that catch my interest or that I have things in common with I do read.
Oh and use GOOGLE! For websites and referances to lye soap and puritanspride.com"
12/09/2011: Anon from Anon, Usa replies: "Sorry, Just went back and read and realized that you can't reach all parts of your body. You will need to find a way. Maybe a friend, Or pay a nurse. But someway, make this happen when trying the things I mentioned."
12/10/2011: Susan from San Francisco, Usa replies: "I used the Borax water (1/2) and ACV (1/2) to get rid of the eggs under the skin. The ACV is the carrier and the Borax washes the protective coating off of the eggs and they die. I would shower every day (sometimes twice) and rinse off with the above mentioned solution. Bathe, towel dry off and then rub the solution all over (including your scalp and hair) and DO NOT rinse. Stand around for about 5-10 minutes and air dry). I stopped itching in a couple of weeks. I don't remember how long the adult mites live, but I put all of my consentration into getting rid of and keeping rid of the eggs. Put 1/8 cup of Borax in a gallon jug of water, give it a good hard shake and let it sit for about half an hour. The water will absorb all of the Borax that it can and you needn't worry about the little bit of risidual Broax at the bottom of the container. Good Luck!"
12/12/2011: David from Dublin, Co. Dublin, Ireland replies: "Many thanks to Anon from Anon and to Susan from San Francisco for your responses and your very helpful tips.
I'm taking 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in a half glass of water twice a day as well as the borax water. I'm going to try adding a capful of food-grade hydrogen peroxide to the borax water tomorrow.
This is now Day 3 and it's all definitely doing something. Day 1 was almost miraculous - tickles down from about 1, 000 a day to less than 100. Day 2 was not as good and I think I know why - this treatment seems to drive more mites out onto the surface of my skin. And of course every day sees a new clutch of eggs hatching.
I've been doing some more research on demodex and found out that while the males only live for 15 days, the females can live for up to 60 days. Which means I'll have to do this borax and baking soda regimen daily for at least three months to be sure of getting them all.
Also, I don't understand why so many posters here emphasise incessant cleaning of the environment when the demodex mite can only survive 24-38 hours if dislodged from the host. Plus, they can't fly or jump and they move very slowly (though they can speed up a bit in warm temperatures). Plus, you don't have to worry about eggs because they only lay them inside you.
For two years, I washed my clothes and bedding daily at 60 degrees Celsius (and sometimes 90) and dried them on high heat and it made absolutely zero difference to these mites because they can only live in your skin - all you'll kill with this regimen is any surface wanderers that get caught up in your clothes or bedding. All it did was destroy my stuff and cost me a fortune on electricity bills (money I don't have to spare). I also used to vacuum the entire house every day (and sometimes twice a day).
So now I sleep (or semi-sleep) on a rubber air-bed on top of a diatomaceous-earth-dusted latex mattress in a non-woven nylon-shelled sleeping bag (my pillow is a non-woven nylon bag stuffed with an old sweater). Every morning, I shake the sleeping bag and "pillow" out thoroughly in the garden and hang them on the wash line to air for a few hours (on wet days, I run them through the dryer on high heat for 40 minutes).
When I undress for bed, I shake out my clothes thoroughly, turn them inside out and do it again, then pack them into a double-sealed vacuum-pack plastic bag. Next morning I shake them out again before getting dressed. I only vacuum the rooms I actually use now once a week.
The only things I wipe daily are those I touch with bare skin - door and faucet handles, light and electricity switches, toilet seat and flush handle, computer keyboards and mice. Also, I never let my bare feet touch the floor and keep my fingernails as short as possible. And that's it - I don't have the time, energy, or ability to do any more because of my constant pain and the fact that virtually all of my life is now taken up with brushing these things off me.
Things are now no better nor no worse than they were before.
Specifics for Anon:
Vaseline: During my research, I read a post (can't remember where) from someone who had done this and it didn't work. But I came across another which recommended Vicks Vapor Rub on the most affected areas (which would be my entire skin). So I may give that a try.
Friends Help: When it became apparent that my home was infested and I had scabies, I told all my friends I wouldn't be seeing them for some time and informed them why. Two and a half years of solitude later, I have no friends. My brothers and sisters all believe I'm delusional because doctors are always right. And I can't afford to pay a nurse out of my pittance of a pension.
Since my first post, I've given this problem a lot of thought and what I do now is use the long-handled lotion applicator to get at just about all areas of my back, then wash as far down as my knees. (I've also ordered an exfoliation strap from the UK so I can get at ALL of my back). I dry off, then sit on a chair and wash my calves and use the lotion applicator for my feet in a plastic basin. I've superglued an old toothbrush to a plastic ruler and use that to do between my toes. It's a struggle but I can now just about manage to wash all areas of my body OK. It just takes me forever to clean myself like this (an hour and a half). Having to massage stuff into my skin for any length of time would be very problematic indeed though.
Specifics for Susan:
ACV plus borax water: I've ordered another five litres of ACV with mother so I'll have to wait till it arrives from the UK to try your recipe. The ACV is have left at the moment is only enough for internal use.
I've never been able to shower every day because I've always had extremely sensitive skin, even using Simple Soap (but I did it for a month twice a day when I had scabies and it almost killed me).
So what I would propose is to put your mix into a spray bottle and spray myself down nightly before bed.
Will this nightmare ever end?
Finally, a tip:
I've been in contact with the UK administrator of the Morgellons organisation (who has been an absolute angel for me) to see if they keep a list of sympathetic dermatologists and doctors for Ireland. They don't. But she gave me a recipe for exfoliation:
Mix plain green Fairy Liquid (dish soap - US equivalent would be Dawn) with fine table salt 50/50 and rub it into and over your skin. Leave it on for about five minutes, then rinse off.
When I came to rinse off, I initially thought that the soap must have penetrated my skin because it felt so slippery. Then I realised that this WAS my skin - all the dead stuff had sloughed off and it was like having brand new skin. I've now thrown out my exfoliation gloves (after immersion in boiling water of course).
Many thanks again to both of you. I'm exhausted. Bye for now."
12/23/2011: G from Sydney, Nsw Australia replies: "I am experiencing an infestation of what I believe are bird mites. The critters are perhaps 1/2 mm long & bite. I am now using a garlic preparation that works well, killing the bugs & keeping them away:
1. Crush several cloves of garlic and let them steep in about 1/4 cup of mineral oil or bath oil for some hours (Baby oil is a mineral oil, Bath oil is a soluble mineral oil & worth the cost). Add some lemon juice to reduce the smell. Push the mix firmly through a fine strainer.
2. Add some liquid soap to mineral oil to emulsify then thin with a quantity of water suitable for rubbing on your skin.
It works really well. The recipe is based on a home insecticide recipe I found, modified for topical use. The only down side is the pervasive smell, but frankly I just really need the sleep. The quantities are rough: you are looking for a fairly pungent mix that does not irritate your skin.
My particular critters are only slightly deterred by tea tree oil, now they're running scared. I have tried permethrin based surface sprays & bombs which have had no effect whatever. Since permethrin is (supposedly) non/low toxic I even sprayed my hat to sleep in. The bugs just laughed.
Garlic & onions store their winter food just above the soil, where most of the bugs & bacteria live. So it's not surprising they have developed effective & general defenses against animals & bacteria.
The mite family has 50,000 species & of course they pre-date insects. They are top survivors. That species number also indicates they are masters of evolution & adaptation, quickly adapting to local food source & conditions.
Before I tried the garlic I thought I was screwed, completely. There are a number of other things to try: oregano oil is a top contender. I am also looking at rosemary oil & citronella oil. I intend to emulsify these for a surface spray. Steam cleaners are a known winner. Some people recommend Windex, which just sounds like a death wish.
Good luck, you can do it."
12/27/2011: Faith from Forest Park, Ohio replies: "Diatomaceous Earth is used for this, make sure you get FOOD GRADE!"
12/29/2011: David from Dublin, Co. Dublin, Ireland replies: "@G from Sydney, Nsw Australia: Many thanks for the topical garlic recipe which I've only just seen now, thanks to the way this site is (dis)organised.
I see you're using it for bird mites. Humans are secondary hosts for these whereas we're primary hosts for human demodex mites which live in follicles and sebaceous glands, so I'm not sure it would work.
But nothing ventured, nothing gained.
I'll also see if I can get oregano oil (not guaranteed here in backward Ireland).
Many thanks for the tips.
@Faith from Forest Park, Ohio: I do use food-grade diatomaceous earth which I take internally every evening after dinner (2 heaped tablespoons in half a pint of water). I'm not sure about putting in on my skin though because it's a powerful dessicant. It also has almost diamond-hard sharp edges (which cut through hard insect exoskeletons like butter) so I'd imagine it could do fairly radical structural damage to the outer skin layer.
I'll research it. Many thanks for the tip."
10/15/2011: Annesco1 from Amsterdam, Ny, Usa: "I just got some hemp oil from the health food store and wondered what is the best way to use it to enhance my efforts to rid myself of the internal bird mite infestation and/or possible morgellons? Should I use it in an oil pulling routine?
Please somebody respond soon. I have posted three times in the past two days, and would love some feedback."Replies
10/15/2011: Clarity from Los Angeles, California, Usa replies: "Annescol from Amsterdam, I too am looking for hemp oil for mites... Unable to find it in the US. I read that one can ingest it or use it topically. Can you tell me where I can order the hemp oil... Or paste? Very grateful. monte91010(AT)gmail(dot)com"
EC: Lots of stores selling hemp oil products on Google Shopping here: http://www.google.com/search?q=Hemp+oil&tbm=shop&hl=en&aq=f
10/13/2011: Annesco from Amsterdam, New York, Usa: "Hi, I am suffering from a mite infestation, and want to begin the borax treatment. My question is that in order to increase alkalinity in my system, I have been drinking multiple cups of green tea per day for a few weeks now. In view of the flouride issue, should I stop doing this while taking the borax? Will it be counterproductive? I am also taking 300 mg of MSM per day. Will this do anything either beneficial or counterproductive?"
04/25/2011: Jean from Denver, Co: "Tried about everything. Going on 2 yrs. boyfriend, dog, daughter, her boyfriend and soon 2 b newborn (really scary). Damn docs think your crazy even though I have the sores. Now really bad sores everywhere. Will try borax again. Want 2 order terpinen online. So sick and tired. At times just resolve to have this forever, as I refer to "them" as my coffin bugs. My scalp all over, face/jaw line, arms, buttocks, upper legs. Moved 4 times. Lost everything."Replies
02/04/2013: Eh from Spring Hill, Fl Usa replies: "I finally self diagnosed with the neglected tropical disease- subcutaneous filiariasis. Doctors dont seem to know about it here. Starts like pimples, but a white thing (or several) wont squeeze out. Then macules, sores that itch like mad. Eventually you get thread-like worms, living in your mid-layers of skin. One variety also infects the abdominal cavity. The vector is mosquito or midge bite. I have had it for 5 years, before I finally figured out. Been pulling worms out of my face for the last 6 months. Lesions all over body that never heal right. Wiki has a page on it that's informative- there's several kinds of filariasis including an eye worm that can blind."
02/05/2013: L.S. from Cape Cod, Usa replies: "OMG! I am not crazy... Everything y'all gave as symptoms/actions/remedies/isolation/expenses are dead on. Have had for 7 years. Can this cause brain/muscle/nervous system/blindness/loss of hearing? Death? Has anyone had trouble w/ food going down? Had to have minor surgery to open passage to stomache and have a repeated feeling of butterfly flutter (not thyroid) in esophagus? Do you know the life cycle? Thank you!"
08/30/2013: Mitzi from Carlsbad, Nm replies: "These mites don't mess around. I still have them. Sometimes they "run" with Cheyletiella mites, and you can get rid of those on your pets with a "spot-on" flea treatment that's pretty expensive, but not these mites that I have. They survive pretty much everything. (Personally, I'm doing a lot of praying about it. ) Here are some things that really work for comfort. 1) air mattress, 2) synthetic underwear (nylon, etc), 3) Menthol dandruff shampoo (comes in a blue bottle) or generic equivalent, 4) Vaporizing rub (that comes in a blue bottle and smells like menthol) or generic equivalent, for feet, privates, nose if it itches, at night. I even rub it around my eyes lightly if they're bugging me at night, 5) Foot powder -- Blue bottle with menthol. (Good in baby diapers, too, when mixed with regular baby powder. Start with 80% baby powder, and 20% foot powder. ) But I put it everywhere on myself. It has menthol so its cooling, but the buggers HATE MENTHOL. It lasts the night. I've mixed it with Diatomacious earth before also. Buy DE at a vet supply place online, because its cheaper. Use a dry sponge to pat it on yourself or a powder puff. You can put it directly on dogs, but not on cats unless you mix it with A LOT OF diatomacious earth. Cat's livers cannot handle too much peppermint, menthol, essential oils, etc. I just don't use any of that on a cat. (The DE doesn't get the bugs out of the house though. ) 6)And finally, turpentine and lotion. That stuff works, but smells a bit. DO NOT use this on a cat! But, I've used it for 3 years now. Nothing harmful. I buy "pure turpentine from tree resin" in a green can at big home improvement store ($7). I mix it 30/70, turp/lotion. No itch. At first, you turn pretty red and it hurts, because of the trails under your skin, but give it an hour and it gets less red. If it keeps hurting, wash it off and try again later. Take a shower with the shampoo for soap, too. I tried Ted's vinegar/borax solution dip for a long, long time, but once they're in your house, forget it. I still wash with 1 cup Borax in each load though. It's cheap. Try to get synthetic blankets and clothes, too. (I mean you can't replace your whole wardrobe, but those bugs love cotton, so avoid it. If you use borax in wash and don't wear things more than twice, it gets less itchy. A lot less. Don't throw your clothes away. Just don't wear them for a while) DE-XXXX additive for laundry works.($50/bottle on Amazon, "laundry additive, de-"). It has some stuff is poisonous in it, so don't use it on people or animals. Not for hair, nothing but clothes and linens. This stuff is really poisonous, okay? But it works on clothes really well. Unfortunately, I still have these bugs, but I'm much less freaked and more comfortable. Now, at least I sleep at night, too. I think God is merciful to those who pray and wait. Those who hope in him, so I pray for answers. I've tried A LOT of things (pesticides to the tune of $6000), but nothing worked. It seemed to aggrevate them. I even tried cedar sprays with no success, so don't waste your money. This is what I've discovered anyway and I hope it helps until you can get rid of them."
03/04/2011: Brandy from Denham Springs, Louisiana: "I went through a horrific experience with bird mites. At first, I was the only sufferer since females are usually attacked prior to anyone else in the home. I felt alone since no one believed me and started to think I was going insane. I lost sleep every-night and became delusional, enough to where I lost my job. My intense research brought me to birdmites.org where I finally had an answer. I went to the local pest store, bought residual indoor and outdoor products, fumigated the attic and also sprayed the yard and trees. A few months later did the same thing to kill the rest that hatched. It worked!!
Finally figured out that they came from a dead bird that was found in the attic after a hurricane. Also noticed it got worse when it rained or was humid outside (which is common in the south). If it would have gone on any longer, I probably would have taken my life -- that's how severe it became and I'm not a suicidal or depressed person. I am still angry that I was so alone and want to help anyone suffering from it. It can be defeated!!!"Replies
03/29/2011: Misdiagnosed from Dayton, Oh/usa replies: "Hi there, I was glad to read your post, because I too became suicidal and delusional. I ALMOST lost my job too. This condition is awful, isn't it? I am near the end; only have a few bites a day, but there was a time a few months ago, when I was getting bit 100x per hour. Couldn't focus, couldn't concentrate. My house was a mess and I'm typically a neat freak! I started spraying the furniture, clothes, car, and office with a mixture of about 12 drops of peppermint oil to a large spray bottle of water. This helped tremendously. I now know if I can just get this spray in contact with them, they die. The trick is they hide in crevices and tiny cracks. I took apart my office chair and sprayed it this morning - HUGE relief!"
07/07/2011: Brenda from Fayetteville, North Carolina replies: "Hi Brandy, what was the name of the products you bought from the pet store that got rid of them? I have tryed it all to kill these things they said to do on birdmites.com and none worked for me. I have suffered for seven years with theses things."
01/14/2010: Ruth from Hobart, Tasmania: "Hi I' ve only just found this site. I have an chronic unidentifiable mite infestation. My sister, my son and I still have them. (4 other people managed to get rid of them as I was able to get them to act fast-but with greaaat difficulty. And they dont live/ bed with a small child!)I' ve lived with the mitets 4 years now! No medical people can find anything or believe me. They live in my ears as well as head/face mostly-travel over my body,bite like a sand fly armpits groin too,arms, legs! I feel them hatching and the larvae stage is different in crawling sensation to the adult. They mostly lay eggs behind ears but elsewhere on top. I know this as I spent months shaving our heads and the popping sounds behind my ears and crawling around from there(!)-they like to run for cover when so exposed-or after treatment they move around to get away-hence migration into ears.A night I distinctly feel them crawl over my face into eyelashes and eyes brows cheeks. from within ears and nearby external ears. Yes I have gone completely insane, washing and poisoning us and avoiding others. Ive tried a huge range of natural products of course. Mega bucks. I will look into the baking soda and borax mix thank you. You dont say how to have it, please? And I' ll try the ACV. Ive begun using 5% Coal tar shampoo,some relief but just read it's banned in higher doses as coal tar is a well known carcenogenic. Sigh!"Replies
08/08/2010: Kim from St. Paul, Mn replies: "Check out Morgellons online and make sure it's mites and not Morgellons..."
09/18/2011: Carol from Schaumburg, Il replies: "Hi Ruth, I have used food grade diatonaceous earth directly on my scalp at night to get relief and it works for the itchy spots as well. Carol of schaumb. Il."
05/26/2012: Lynn from Connecticut, Usa replies: "Last week I started taking Iodine, Colloidal Silver and drinking the borax water. I know it's a lot to do all at once. By the end of the day the central part of my face became extremely red and inflamed. I woke up in the morning to bleeding sores and a greater area of my face being inflamed. I had never experienced anything like it in my life. Over the days, whatever was happening travelled down to my chin. Eventually scabbing and flaking began to occur. I continued to take the Iodine, Colloidal Silver and borax water (1/8 tsp per liter a day or less). It's been a week and my face is almost completely clear. What a weird experience. I have no idea what it was that came out or which ingredient caused it to come out but it makes me wonder! I was trying to help my Thyroid not my face."
06/01/2012: Aj from Tulsa, Oklahoma replies: "Finally got a term that confirms the "bugs" or the "hosts" are not delusional! DEMODICIDOSIS!
Dermatology Online Journal says this treatment will get rid of them in 3 weeks! I've tried the topical metronidzole, but not at the same time as the oral metronidzole and oral prednisolone.
"The diagnosis of demodicidosis was made by finding extrafollicular mites in the perifollicular inflammatory infiltrate. The papules resolved after 3 weeks of systemic and topical metronidazole, and low-dose oral prednisolone therapy. In summary, demodex granuloma may be mistaken for granulomatous rosacea-like papules. Correct diagnosis can be facilitated by finding extrafollicular demodex mites in skin biopsy specimens.""
10/17/2012: Lou from Tyler, Tx replies: "I found this post on another site (hope that's OK):
Sounds like we have all been there. Have use the various sulfur preps, home preps, hair preps and so on. And, got paranoid to stop using as well. At some point, though - it is time to 'pamper' your skin and let it strengthen and do what it was designed to do -- protect you and your innards. Use emu oil to 'heal' and then vitamins daily with C, A and B included (don't OD on the fat soluable ones, though - like E and A).
Working out and working up a very good salty sweat is quite good for cleansing the skin and killing mites - even those that normally live in your hair folicles, such as the demodex - which are dead skin scavengers and don't bother you.
If you are particularly prone to being a mite haven -- you can resort to your sulfur home remedies once a week or get down to every other week for one washing interval - 24 hour to 48 hours at most.
BUT, eventually, -- think about using essential oils or Citrus oils for skin soothing and repealling properties (they're not great in a curative mode -- we just can't take the weeks on end treatment regimens in America required for essential oil and enzyme treatments-- just isn't practical. I laughed when I read - apply 3 to 6 times daily for 3 weeks).
Shore up your skin defenses (and its immunity)with vitamins A, C, E (among all the rest you should have daily) AND add mega amounts of zinc 200 to 300 mg for a week and then at least 100 mg daily (never mind the RDA - blah). Used in my HIV patients in even higher doses to help them reconstitute their immune systems.
But, get healed and use Citrus oils - as they are a fabulous repelling agent and nice for the skin. Don't forget those sea salt hot bathes too -- dump lots of sea salt in the water and just soak."
10/11/2009: Izzy from Vero Beach, Florida U.s.a: "Maybe a flea ?
I have discovered after a year of battleing these invisible biting creatures, that there also is a flea called the Sticktight Flea, which is just as small as the bird-rat mites, and it loves humans, likes to live in crotch area, scalp, face and ears, and i do mean it lives in the ears, and burrows into the flesh there, when you use remedies in your ears it goes under the flesh, very hard to kill, I got suspicious when I saw one I got from between my cats toes, and they cause dogs- cats to do the head shaking also, I have been pulling stuff off my body for a year now, and they have been things that are the same as all 3 stages of this creature, they come off wildlife, including wild birds !! I am going to start battleing with products for fleas and see what happens, along with my zapper which helps."
EC: Another name for a sticktight flea is Echidnophaga gallinacea: http://course1.winona.edu/kbates/_private/Echidnophaga gallinacea.htm
11/01/2009: Izzy from Vero Beach, Florida replies: "Invisible biting mites?
I have posted here before,but just want to add a couple tips to help in this ongoing battle against these Mites? Using sprinkled talc with Menthol in it on your sheets keeps them off you so you can sleep,not allowed to say the name of product but it's in a green shaker bottle with holes in the cap, has Zinc Oxide and Menthol as ingredients,also get Pets on a topical, that covers mites & fleas, this stopped the misery my pets were going through.Dealing with the ones in my ears is a different story though, have thrown everything safe at them but can't kill them there, keep using borax in wash ,and I add 1 teaspoon of Euclyptus Oil to each load, if you have pets it's a good idea to wash the oil out of the clothes after soaking them in the borax & Euc. Be careful with essential oils of any kind around pets, I research any new remedies I try first due to my pets. An Immune booster supplement is a must ! And if your a long time remedy user it's a real good idea to buy a Liver Detoxifier from your health food store, trust me you will feel a lot better once your liver starts to rejuvinate itself.If you want to make your blood more Alkaline you can buy PH drops to make it more alkaline than acidic, this helps in the battle also, I am a senior citizen and am in pretty good shape due to following my tips, however until the CDC stops dragging their feet we'll never get to the bottom of this, my bugs are able to burrow under the flesh, hence I can't kill them in my ears but any feedback will be appreciated!"
11/02/2009: K from Sacramento, Ca replies: "I had a bad case of mites this summer. I used neem oil - three or four large dropperfuls in about a cup of olive oil, added some oil of orange. Put all over head, face, ears, neck down to shoulders.
Then soak in a tub of water - add hydrogen peroxide, one large bottle, about 1/2 cup borax and a cup or so of salt, oil up down to the water level. Soak for an hour if you can.
Then wash your hair with Dawn dish soap.
This causes a rush to your eyes as they try to get away, but using drops and resting in a dark room will get you thru it.
Do it once a week until they are gone.
I saw an article that recommended using lysol, the kind you dilute. Pour it on your scalp, ears, etc and let it dry. Leaving it on do it again and let dry. Leave on for all day or night if you can before you wash it out. Have not tried it as mine are gone or reduced so as not to be bothersome.
01/27/2010: Gaynor from Manaton, Uk replies: "Antonio,
For 9 days I have been using my saliva to clear the last of the dermodex mites causing my rosacea- and it has worked! All clear no more spots or redness, calm pale smooth skin- I can hardly believe it. I stopped doing the borax and H202 remedy as I realised that the saliva was making such a difference. Quite remarkable for something so simple a remedy as applying your own saliva to your skin.
Thank you Antonio and Earth Clinic!"
10/17/2012: Lou from Tyler, Tx replies: "@ K - Lysol may contain phenols, which can be dangerous to the thyroid. I read that lemon juice is very effective to kill the mites."
01/22/2013: Sandy from Monroe, Washinton replies: "Yea to Lou from Tyler, Texas!! You are right about the saliva on your face! Ty so much! When I get all ready for bed, olive oil or mayonaisse my hair, shower cap. Then use my dry eye ointment and head for my bed. The last step I do is( After brushing my Teeth and rinsing my mouth well) is to apply my saliva to my face and over my eyes. It works very well, I have felt them run off my face! :)"
12/09/2013: Tony from Brisbane Queensland Australia replies: "Have been suffering with skin problems for years it was especially worse on my face. Itchy eyebrows and ears.and a crawling sensation at night it looked so bad some days I would'nt even leave the house. had a skin biopsy done and it came back as demodex mite infestation. had no idea they had been causing my eye problems as well blepharitis, eye lashes falling out, dry & irritated eyes and blurred vision. my pores are enlarged & my skin is wrinkled with broken capillaries. have been taking doxycycline tablets for 2 months with no success tried the permethrin 5 times 4 days apart didn't make any difference. even tried 50/50 tea tree oil solution from head to toe for 2 weeks helped a bit with the itch but did kill them. am now trying benzyl peroxide has helped the itch on my face a lot. if this doesn't eradicate them completely I've ordered a product that is primarily used for animals for demodetic mange but I've been reading online lots of story's from people using it to cure their scabies and demodex infestations seems to be the only thing that really works when all else fails. has 73% sulfur 25% mineral oils and 2% pine oil from what I've read you should cut it down 50/50 solution with any essential oil or zinc oxide so its more tolerable with your skin at this stage I'm willing to try anything! You can order it from amazon or I got mine from e-bay."