Table of Contents
- QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
- POPULAR REMEDIES
- ACV, Baking Soda, Magnesium, Vit E
- Adequate Chewing of Food
- Apple Cider Vinegar
- Baking Soda
- Baking Soda, Lemon Juice, Coconut Oil
- Baking Substitutions
- Boric Acid
- Candida and Ph
- Candida Cleanse
- Candida Comments
- Candida Detoxing Symptoms
- Candida Symptoms
- Candida Test
- Caprylic Acid
- Chamomile Tea
- Check for Sjogren
- Coconut Oil
- Colloidal Silver
- Cream of Tartar
- Dietary Changes
- Dietary Changes, Omega 3
- Food Allergies
- Garlic and GSE
- Garlic, Dandelion, Turmeric, Cayenne
- General Feedback
- Ginger Tea
- Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE)
- Grapefruit Seed Extract, Apple Cider Vinegar
- Heavy Metal Detox
- Hydrogen Peroxide
- Juicing, Dietary Changes
- Live Sauerkraut
- Low Fat Diet, MMS
- Lugol's Iodine, Baking Soda
- Master Cleanse
- Monarda Tea and Frequency Generator
- Multiple Remedies
- Oil Pulling
- Ph Balancing
- Reader Theories
- Remedies Needed
- St. John's Wort, Eliminate the Pill
- Ted's Remedies
- Traditional Chinese Medicine
- Urine Therapy
- Vitamin B3 (Niacinamide)
- Wheat Grass Juice
- Xylitol, Bentonite Clay
11/21/2012: Sweat Pea from Somewhere, Usa: "I have been reading so many posts on EC about candida infections that I found it very curious no one has posted the simple spit test to find out if you actually HAVE an overgrowth of candida. My journey into natural cures began about 3..."
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[QUESTION] 09/16/2009: Dunn Dunn from Dallas, Texas: "i believe that i have candida and and i was trying to find out some step to take to get the candida under control,,,its a few different treatment options that i have heard of ,,but they all seem to be different,,,i really didnt want to waste time or money trying thinking that didnt work,,,any suggestion would be greatly appreciated,,,"Replies
09/17/2009: Sheena from Glasgow, Scotland replies: "Search Google for the Candida spit test and try this if you haven't already done so. Not only has my health improved but my spit test results have greatly improved, so I know that at least some of what I have done has worked. I would recommend that read through all the posts on the Candida page and then start writing a Candida diary. This helped me to determine what was having an affect (including foods).
I would much rather you did your own research and devised your own plan of action, however I will the things that I did which I am sure helped in my case:
Lemon and bicarbonate soda drink (or baking soda for the US)
Tiny pinch of borax in 1 litre of water
Vitamins C, B E. Zinc & cod liver oil. Also selenium and Magnesium. I took all of these supplements fairly regularly (2 - 3 times a week) for a few months. This was to address any nutritional deficiencies that might exist as a consequence of the Candida. Also, many of these supplements (esp selenium) are anti fungal.
I also drink blackstrap molasses in water, particularly around my time of the month as it helps. I also drink an apple cider vinegar (with bicarbonate of soda) drink from time to time.
All of the things I mentioned here can be found in this website, so read up on everything carefully and then decide if you want to give anything a try. Good luck."
09/17/2009: Eh from Atlanta, Ga replies: "Candida Treatment: I had tried several things also, but the thing that worked for me was Grapefruit Seed Extract (sometimes referred to as GSE), and a very good (refrigerated) Pro-biotic. I can't mention the brand name here, but it has 3 different types of healthy bacteria in it -- it is awesome. I took the GSE 3x daily - 10 drops in an empty gelcap (can buy at most health food stores) or you can put it in a glass of water, but it's hard to swallow - very bitter. Make SURE you drink a full glass of water with the gelcap -- it can hurt your stomach if you do not. And, I took the pro-biotic 2x daily at first -- then once daily after for maybe 2 months. Also, make sure to wait at least 2-3 hrs to take your probiotic -- you don't want the GSE to kill the good bacteria! Even after I started to feel totally better, I continued the GSE 1 or 2x daily for months.. just to be sure. THere are many, many benefits to the GSE also (do a search on the web for it -- it's also very inexpensive for all the benefits it does ) And... NO, I do not sell the GSE :-) I'm just a believer! (If your candida is vaginal, you can also douche with it -- the bottle has instructions) I have heard people say that Collodial Silver does a great job also, but it's more expensive, so I just used the GSE. It is a great natural anti-bacterial, anti-fungal and anti-viral. I've gotten a couple of extra bottle in case anyone in my family contact swine flu. Hope this helps!"
03/24/2010: Skye from Atlanta, Ga replies: "Great feedback! I have suffered with Candida since I was a child. I had chronic sinus infections and a doctor who was happy to prescribe antibiotics several times a month. The diflucan came next, and I was up to 10 a year, which is awful! This has since caused hormonal imbalances and numerous ovarian cysts as well as insomnia. The classic case I guess you would say.
I have been on a very high end probiotic (candida flora) for months now and have noticed much less bloating and abdominal discomfort. I have just discovered GSE! I am using the nasal spray and the capsules. I am going to try it in a neti pot and make douche next.
Do you have any experience with ACV? I eat very healthy and have a healthy lifestyle.
Thanks again, best feedback so far :)"
03/26/2010: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi everyone, It seems that candida plagues an awful lot of people and really can wreak havoc in their bodies and lives. I would like to bring to everyone's attention a woman named Donna Gates who offers so much information in restoring the body's ecological balance. She has her own website and offers lots of free info. You can also watch her on youtube making fermented veggies which she says can really help the body find its balance. I discovered her not that long ago and find her work extremely valuable and have incorporated fermented foods/drinks into my diet. She has her own method of eating called Body Ecology and also a book but you can just learn a lot if that is too expensive for you and start incorporating her ideas.
She also reminds us that now is the natural time in nature, of which we are a part of, to cleanse the body from all that we have stored up during the dormant months of winter. Our bodies are actually primed for this process in the spring but we have lost a connection to this as we have been increasingly separated from the natural rhythms of life. She suggests eliminating oils and fats right now, animal protein, or at least stepping back from it dramatically right now, adding in lots of greens to lighten our bodies, adding lemon or sour/bitter to our diets to help cleanse the liver which naturally wants to detoxify during the spring and prepare for the hot months of summer. By doing this now, we unload the toxins from our bodies that otherwise will continue to accumulate if this process is not done thereby, leading to all the various "diseases" that are plaguing people these days. The diet is very inclusive, meaning it can appeal to vegetarians, vegans, meat eaters, etc. She acknowledges that everyone is unique and has different needs. Hope you check this out- it is invaluable info!
Oh, and Rob from Manhattan, she talks a lot about the unbelievable benefits of natto! So amazing that I'm going to find some!
To our health, Lisa"
08/08/2010: Terry from Qulin, Mo replies: "To control candida you must change your body terrain as Ted says. First raise ph also candida is one of the bodies defense against mercury so you must detox yourself of mercury or have problems from mercury release when you kill the candida. Use untreated diatomaceous earth baked in a starch product like corn bread. Dt earth removes the coating on all parasites including candida use 1 tbs per pan mixed in to ingredients. Also use enteric coated oregano oil to kill in colon. Also use cellulase enzyme to eat candida coating then detox."
08/11/2010: Terry from Qulin, Mo replies: "The reason you use a starch or sugar product with the diatomaceous earth is that is what the candida like to eat they come in contact with dt earth and die. The problem with many treatments such as drug or garlic and other herbs the candida are able to mutate and after a short time they become ineffective how ever this is not the case with dt earth or the cellulase enzymes that destroy candida's cell walls. Dt earth is very safe. You can also put in capsules and take with food. Or eat 3 2x2 pieces of bread a day and freeze the rest."
08/12/2010: Cindy from Cochrane, Wi replies: "Are you using the product for plants and gardens? Can you let me know where you found this information? Thank you"
08/14/2010: Terry from Qulin, Missouri replies: "I found this by searching for treatments for candida put diatomateous earth and candida in search engine. I have used di earth for years as a parasite cleanse for my champion german shepherds I raised. I also used it to protect my grain from wevils for my chickens and used it in my garden. When I read about it on the internet, I thought of course this would work and used it myself and it did the job very fast and I still take it monthly for one week. I take it in capsules with my meals for all parasites.
Do not use di earth treated for swimming pools, anything else is fine. Also, I took a enzyme at night to get in my blood stream called cellulase, it digests the outer wall also. I would give you the name but this web site frowns up on that. Di earth is poorly absorbed so it mainly treats your digestive track but that is the main breeding and feeding ground for candida."
11/19/2010: Catherine from Wellington, New Zealand replies: "I have been struggling with candida since a life threatening bout of sceptecaemia some 30 yrs ago. Doctor had me on high doses of anti-biotics for a year to "help my immune system cope". In spite of all my efforts to overcome I am still plagued with debilitating chronic fatigue, heavily coated white tongue, sleep problems, etc.. I am about to try Marvin Lee Robey's protocol of a thorough colon cleanse followed by treatment for 2 weeks with ionic silver and hydrogen peroxide. Apparently 2 weeks is all it usually takes though some bad cases may require up to 5 weeks. I feel really confident about this therapy and will keep you informed about my progress."
02/18/2011: Katnco from Denver, Co replies: "Lisa from To... Donna Gates video's are terribly long and boring. If anyone wants a simple recipe for making fermented veggies, just type it into google and look around for what suits you. Donna Gates appears life less, no vim or vigor for being so "healthy"."
Candida Detoxing Symptoms
11/23/2011: Elly from Topeka, Kansas, Usa: "Hi Bill, I sometimes mix a drop of the 2% Lugols in some leftover soup broth (that has EVCO or butter in it). I heard it was good to mix it with a little saturated fat for weight loss. I've taken it a few times and not long after felt a little: dizzy, anxious, and a little trouble swallowing. This all subsided in 5-10 minutes. It happened each of the three times when taking only 1 drop a day for a few days. I am subclinical hypothyroid and don't take any prescriptions. This doesn't seem to be an allergy, would this just be a herx effect? I plan to just continue and hope the symptoms eventually stay away unless anyone has any other recommendations. Thank you!"Replies
11/24/2011: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Elly... Since you are hypothyroid then your body needs iodine. When you initially start taking lugols iodine, you should:
* First check for an allergy reaction against iodine by putting a few drops in the crook of your arm and leave it for one or two hours. If their is irritation, redness and itchyness then you might be allergic.
* Next, take iodine in small doses and test for stomach sensitivities.
* I've also found that many people who try using iodine automatically have difficulty swallowing the iodine in water or they wretch. This seems to be a psychosomatic reaction that is caused by an in-built fear and conviction that iodine is truly poisonous. If you have no allergy reaction and no stomach sensitivities then the problem will most likely be iodophobia. I am afraid that I can suggest nothing for this problem. But a good book to read, whose title should convince most is one by Dr David Brownstein called Iodine: Why You Need It, Why You Can't Live Without It.
* What people also forget is that the symptoms of an allergy reaction are very similar to a sudden Herx or a sudden die-off reaction when you take oral iodine. But this is up to the user to decide. In the 1920s they autopsied many cadavers and found a 3% occurrence of candida. In the 1960s a similar experiment showed a candida occurence of 30% to 40%. Today, the occurrence of candida in western populations, according to research, is more likely to be 90%. So weird symptoms like nausea, pains, flu-like symptoms and feeling awful in general could be due to a candida problem and not necessarily due to an allergy reaction.
In my opinion blood tests are not a good way of measuring thryroid levels. The best way, since the thyroid controls body temperature, is to use a basal thermometer and when you first wake up in bed to put it in your arm pit for 15 mins or so. A normal thyroid will show a temperature of 97.8 to 98.6 degrees F. Body temperatures from 97.6 to 98.0 degrees Fahrenheit are considered evidence of possible hypothyroidism or low thyroid and temperatures less than 97.6 degrees can be even more indicative of hypothyroidism. See this article.
The final point is that iodine is one of the most useful elements for our bodies on this planet. Magnesium is another one. Iodine cures thyroid problems, helps to improve and protect the eyes, helps remove plaque from the heart arteries, prevents and removes breast, prostate and uterine cysts, increases energy, improves all hormone receptors(not just for the thyroid) thus improving the body's metabolic rate, improves the skin, used in every single mucus gland in our bodies as first line of defence against pathogens, essential for proper mental development, kills 90%-95% of all known pathogens, can help to cure obesity problems, can help to completely cure type 2 diabetes, beneficial against glaucoma and catarract conditions, useful as a preventative and cure against cancer(See the Max Gerson Therapy and Ted's Therapy for cancer), helps to cure allergies(Read this speech by Max Gerson) and is a wonderful anti-histamine that is safe to take. But I'm afraid that you must take much larger dosages than just one drop of lugols iodine a day to achieve any of these beneficial effects because the whole body's need for iodine is so great.
The second point I must make is that taking one drop or small amounts of iodine for problems like hypothyroid will not work because the rest of the body's need for iodine is 100 times more than the RDA that is needed for the thyroid. This means that whatever dosage of oral iodine you take -- the body will grab 100 times more iodine than the thyroid. So whatever dosage of lugols you are taking now must also therefore satisfy the whole body's need for iodine. The RDA for just thyroid iodine maintenance per day is defined as approx 125 MICROgrams. So just multiply that by 100 and you get 12.5 MILLIgrams -- which is equivalent to 2 drops of lugols 5% iodine (or equivalent to approx 4 drops 2% lugols iodine) -- and that's only for just thyroid and body iodine maintenance!!
If you have sensitivities or problems with lugols iodine, then perhaps try Nascent Iodine. This form doesn't have much taste and is a form which contains the most triiodide or I3 ions which is the most recognised, absorbable and bioavailable form of iodine for the body. Lugols Iodine also contains I3 but Nascent Iodine(also known as Atomidine) contains far more because it has been made using a special electrical process(to create more ionic I3 ). You should also be able to take much larger dosages of Nascent Iodine without problems."
11/24/2011: Lisa from Frankfurt, Germany replies: "Hi Bill, I am 5th week pregnant and also hypothyroid. I take daily L-thyroxin 50 mg. I want to take Lugol's Iodine to support my thyroid. Is it safe to take Iodine during pregnancy?
Thanks in advance.
11/24/2011: Elly from Topeka, Kansas, Usa replies: "Thank you Bill for your fast and detailed answer! Skin test fine and stomach no problems. It seems to be a case of iodophobia (unconscious brainwashing from slanted websites). Morning or even during the day I don't measure higher than 96.5 degrees, unless I have a fever but then it only goes up a few degrees. So I can see I need iodine. The info you gave here has alleviated a lot of my fears and I have a much better understanding of iodine now. And thank you for the info on Nascent Iodine, though more expensive I will consider it if need be. Wish everyone here a Happy Thanksgiving and thank you again Bill!"
11/24/2011: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Lisa... The evidence that iodine is beneficial during pregnancy is quite strong and the historic, demographic evidence should be enough. From research by the Iodine Project:
"The literature search revealed that 60 million mainland Japanese consume a daily average of 13.8 mg of elemental iodine[mainly from kelp and seaweed as food] and they are one of the healthiest nations, based on overall wellbeing and cancer statistics (4). Japanese women do not stop consuming iodine-rich foods during pregnancy, and Japanese fetuses are exposed to maternal peripheral levels of iodide at concentrations of 10-5M to 10-6M. Either the Japanese are mutants, capable of striving on toxic levels of iodine or we have been grossly deceived, and the human body needs at least 100 times the RDA, which was established very recently in 1980 and confirmed in 1989!! " Source: http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-08/IOD_08.htm
13.8 mgs is about 2 drops of 5% Lugols Iodine per day which is approx 100 times more than the current RDA for iodine. Further evidence has also confirmed that iodine supplementation by mothers both during and after pregnancy helps the baby's brain and CNS system to develop properly and also helps to reduce cretinism and retardation in the newborn such that there seems to be a direct relationship between the baby's intelligence outcome with a higher IQ and iodine intake. Iodine helps to reduce miscarriages and also reduces complications during pregnancy. After the baby has been born, it is also important that the mother continues taking iodine, because iodine in mother's milk will further help to protect the baby's health against germs, heavy metals and halogens during early stage development as well.
I must also add here that purchasing kelp tablets will not be sufficient to attain the proper dose as recommended above. I recently purchased a so-called good make of European kelp tablets and when I eventually read the label(stupid me!! ), this revealed that each tablet only contained 125 MICROgrams of actual iodine. Therefore I would have had to take 100 of these tablets PER DAY just to satisfy the same maintenance iodine intake as the healthy Japanese. Please understand that I have nothing against Kelp in natural food form, however I do object very much to the ridiculous RDA for Iodine as recommended by the medical regulatory authorities which is so rigidly enforced by the Codex laws in Europe -- and we all know why. This will also apply to American forms of kelp as well.
Finally, I was day-dreaming the other day -- as one does -- and had these thoughts.
Arthritis prevalence across the population in the US is about 22%. The prevalence of arthritis in Israel is 0.35% -- because their drinking water supply contains slightly over 3 ppm of borax.
Heart disease statistics in Finland were horrific until they added magnesium to their drinking water. Now their heart disease figures has gone "Oriental" and are the lowest in Europe.
Chlorine is used in western drinking water supplies. Why not use Iodine instead?
So, if we added proper amounts of borax, magnesium and iodine(not expensive) into our western water supplies --- then in one sweep we would greatly reduce heart disease, arthritis, goiter, hypothyroidism, hyperthyroidism, cancer, infectious and fungal diseases etc and the western populations would immediately become healthier again!!
However and as far as I am aware, common sense has never yet entered into the rather bereft and squalid regions of political thinking and debate -- particularly regarding the important health needs of their ordinary citizens. Politicians only ever seem to think of their sick flock as tax mikcows these days. Or perhaps "Tax Cattle" would be the more appropriate term here.
Just some thoughts..."
11/24/2011: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Elly... I forgot to mention that Iodoral tablets -- as a substitute for lugol's iodine can also be taken instead. Unfortunately, Iodoral is also more expensive as well. You can Google Iodoral for more details. And Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!!"
11/25/2011: Lisa from Frankfurt, Germany replies: "Hi Bill, Thank you so much for your very quick and detailed reply. I always read your postings on Earth Clinic with great interest. I was just planning to take Iodine meanwhile I got pregnant. Ted'remedies have also helped me to get pregnant. I am very much impressed by the generosity and kindness of you, Ted and all the people on Earth clinic. Thank you Earth clinic.
Thanks Bill once again for your help.
11/25/2011: Betty from Tampa, Floridy replies: "Hi Bill.. Scrolling through this website and trying to find the info myself, would the proper amounts of your "dream mixture" be 1/8 tsp borax, 10 drops 80% magnesium chloride and 2 drops 5% Lugols iodine in a glass of water most days of the week? Anything else we can add to this "super drink".. Like maybe 5-10 drops 3% H2O2 and a pinch of tannic acid (or green tea) and a pinch of EDTA or is this over the top. BTW your posts on this are awesome!!!!!"
11/25/2011: Lon from Stanhope, Nj replies: "Thank you Bill, for terrific, asy to follow informative posts. You and ted are so geneerous to share your knowledge without a fee. Alternative practioners are soo expensive. Your suggestions are so simple and inexpensive, making these remedies accessible to everyone, not only the those who can pay for the expensive alternative remedies. Your remedies are time saving and easy to do. I have many responsibilities... No time for packs, soaking and so forth... but doesn't have time to throw some BS into a glass of water! I am exceedingly grateful."
11/25/2011: Anon from Anon replies: "Hey Betty & Bill; why not throw in some sodium thiosulfate into that mix? Actually not sure if H2O2 and ST go together tho? Me thinks if you have the iodine you don't need the H2O2 since they're both oxidizers. Just don't add vit C to this mix cuz that's an antioxidant. Please Bill correct me if I'm wrong. Adieu!"
02/07/2012: Jingkatphil from Cagayan De Oro City, Misamis Oriental, Philippines replies: "Hi Bill from the philippines..
I'm from the phils also and also having candidal issues.. I just want to ask if you used kefir in your program..And also, can I reach you? Since we're from the same country..
I really would like to talk to you and have my questions be answered as you have answered your questions on candida..
I have been suffering vaginal candida infection and now, having pelvic pains.. I'm also always tired and can't concentrate.. I'm really desperate right now to have this candida eliminated considering that I'm only 22 and I don't want to waste the rest of my years living with this hell..
Hope you'd reply on this. thanks Bill."
11/22/2011: Ben from St. Louis, Mo: "How do I take Lugols 2% to get rid of Candida? I have had for 2 years now and digestion is doing terrible. I can only get 2% Lugols Solution. Are there any interactions to watch out for as well?"Replies
11/23/2011: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Ben... In answer to your questions:
How do I take Lugols 2% to get rid of Candida?
First you should test a few test drops of lugols iodine on your arm and leave it for an hour or so. If it develops into a red itchy area then you are probably allergic to iodine -- but only 1% of people are allergic so this is rare. Next, try orally taking one or two drops of the lugol's in a glass of water for a few days. Take this at least one hour before meals or two hours after meals. If you're OK with this then you have no stomach sensitivity to iodine and so you can use the full dose.
Dr Orian Truss used a stronger 5% lugol's iodine to successfully cure candida and used dosages of between 6 - 8 drops a day in split doses. With this he could cure candida problems in about 1 to 2 months.
Therefore for a 2% lugols iodine solution I would recommend between 12 -- 16 drops of lugols a day -- in four split doses of between 3 or 4 drops taken 4 times a day. If it was a 5% solution of lugols iodine -- which is higher strength than 2% lugols -- then I would just recommend 2 drops 4 times a day.
Are there any interactions to watch out for as well?
There should be no interactions provided you take lugols with water outside mealtimes.
But -- at the start of taking lugols -- you WILL get a Herxheimer or candida die-off reaction. This is when the lugols iodine kills large amounts of candida in you body. The liver therefore comes under stress to clear the candida from the blood. This gives rise to symptoms like: flu-like symptoms, nausea, low energy, feeling tired and feeling generally awful. The length or duration of this die-off reaction will depend on the extent of your candida invasion and will also depend on how healthy your liver is. This is why it is also advisable to take liver support herbs like Milk Thistle or Chanca Piedra during the die-off period."
07/30/2010: Joe from Wpb, Fl: "Bill - Re Your Updated Candida Protocol:
I have the symptoms that you experienced with Candida (constipation, eczema, dandruff, insomnia, sweet cravings, nail fungus). My urine and saliva is alkaline even though I don't eat a good diet. I have been doing Iodine, borax, sodium ascorbate, Sodium Thiosulfate, for fungus and metals. I'm alkaline but still have all the symptoms?"Replies
07/31/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines replies: "Hi Joe... The question of alkalinity can be confusing. But you must also consider that there are two areas that you must alakalize -- the blood terrain(extracellular) and the cell terrian(intracellular). You can certainly have alkaline urine, which means that your blood may be alkaline, but this does not mean that your intracellular environment is alkaline. My favourite ways of alkalizine now are to just use Ted's lemon/lime remedies or to use Ted's Baking soda plus Sodium citrate and potassium citrate mix. Both of these will create the necessary citrates for intracellular alkalinity. Also, if you add magnesium citrate or bicarbonate to your protocol this will go further to balance the calcium and also help with increasing the alkalinity too. Anyway, here is another more in depth explanation that I found from Ted, which should help you to understand body alkalinity better:
"The potassium is the primary method of getting alkaline pH. Actually, extracellular fluids is like a highway system where toxic wastes are rid of from the cells. So getting alkaline urine is important. The exception appears that if a person is deficient of potassium, then it's the intracellular fluids that is acid. Two intracellular fluids are required, magnesium and potassium, and traces of phosphate. In practice potassium will get you alkaline pH fairly quickly, but if the body's accessibility to buffers are limited due to circulation then a carbicarb is required to reach those. In any event, I don't use what present conventional medicine (in Europe, at least) and has long modified them to be a carbicarb potassium mix. Which technically speaking is a equimolar concentrations of carbicarb. A more powerful potassium is the tripotassium citrate. You have to realize that the alkaline bandwagon started in the early 1990s before it hit popularity with the internet around the late 1990s. However, I have been doing this since the late 1960s, and Dr.Carey Reams started somewhere in the 1970s. My idea wasn't even original one either. It was first suggested by Edgar Cayce the importance of alkaline foods found in vegetables, but I found that inconvenient and settled for baking soda instead. An Australian marketed Unique Water that had Magnesium bicarbonate to alkalized the intracellular fluids which I h ave known that long time before it was even patented. In any event, the primary vehicle to alkalized the salivary pH is fairly quick and I have noticed that you may not have even added potassium citrate (tripotassium citrate), or potassium bicarbonate to a large extent in the dosing in alkalizing, which is why the salivary pH still remains at an acidic range. It appears that the body remains low on potassium and perhaps another one was also ignored, which is the magnesium, preferably magnesium bicarbonate. In practice a magnesium bicarbonate doesn't exist in dry state so I would either use a magnesium citrate or a magnesium chloride to replenish electrolytic deficiency and imbalances in the intracellular makeup of magnesium and potassium. It takes a bit longer to alkalize the salivary pH as opposed to urinary pH. The lag time for urinary pH is only an hour or two, while a potassium pH lags about 12-24 hours. In effect, if regular frequent measurements and proper dose were observed, the potassium's effect of salivary pH would have been noticed anyway. A salivary pH of 5. 5 is a seriously distressed body. In any event, there IS a possibility where potassium has little effect on salivary pH. That has a lot to do with poisons added into our food where the body is seriously distressed in metabolic acidosis. That I found came from excitotoxins of aspartame that is now present in thousands of consumer products, including Gatorade, xylitol chewing gums, Clorets, Flintstone vitamins, many effervescent products (such as to reduce stomach acid) that required a much larger dose to neutralize these. Hence, to have any DENT on increasing salivary pH, excitotoxins, such as aspartate (e. G. Lithium aspartate, or anything with aspartate name), Monsodium Glutamate, and other amino acids of excitoxins should be avoided as if the neural system is destroyed, the body's natural restoration of pH is affected and both urinary pH and salivary pH is stubborn to change to more alkalinity. A long term metabolic acidosis, especially acid intracellular fluids has a much better chance ot becoming cancer causing. It's also interesting to note that hydrocarbon exposures such as benzene found in softdrinks from the use of sodium benzoate, which breaks down into benzene causes both metabolic acidosis and neural damage. Whatever the arguments, present researchers have a long way to go in understanding these pH issues. Issues such the body's electrical capacitance, electrical conductance, body's electrical potential, are other issues that had not given importance, the effects of difference buffering, and even something as simple as a electrolyte drinks are currently missign magnesium, the ignorance of the toxicity of lactates and lactose, the hydrocarbon causing metabolic acidosis, are some of the topics today's writers should cover but are only just barely even going beyond baking soda. Has anyone ever had a look at other kinds of buffers yet, besides bicarbonates yet? Such as carbicarb, citrates, etc.?"
[QUESTION] 07/31/2010: Joe from Wpb, Florida replies: "Bill: So the citrate remedies are more for intracellular alkalizing tested by our saliva?
Does it matter when you take the BS / lemon?
For extracellular what is some of the best common remedies?
Can one use BS, potassium bicarbonate, magnesium citrate combo for alkalizing extracellular?
Thank you so much Bill:)"
08/01/2010: Joe from Wpb, Florida replies: "Is Intracellular remedies more related to alkalizing for acid brain? BS, potassium bicarbonate, magnesium citrate or BS and lemon. I think the acid brain is suspect with insomnia b/c I've been doing what Ted says with insomnia: removed all halogen exposures, 12.5mg Iodine daily, no emf's, , ,
How much of the lemon do you squeeze? (2 tablespoons )
I think the insomnia may be making me lose weight or the remedies have facilitated the krebs cycle with me thus, the weight loss."
08/01/2010: Peter from Chicago, Il replies: "Bill, Can I add magnesium citrate to the Baking Soda/Lemon?"
08/01/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines replies: "Hi Joe... In answer to your questions:
So the citrate remedies are more for intracellular alkalizing tested by our saliva?
Absolutely right. Both citrates and potassium are necessary for intracellular activity. The potassium, together with the magnesium are necessary to help balance the calcium within the cell. And the citrate form helps to produce cell energy within the cell and the end product of citrates from the Krebs or citric acid cycle is carbonates, which are highly alkaline and help maintain a high pH and a healthy cell environment.
Does it matter when you take the BS / lemon?
The best time for me is to take the BS/lemon remedy in late morning and late afternoon, always one hour before or two hours after meals.
For extracellular what is some of the best common remedies?
The best and simplest is simply the BS(Sodium Bicarbonate) with half a glass of water. I use this one all the time. Sometimes I use 1/4 tspn Sodium Bicarbonate, 1/4 tsp sodium carbonate and 1/4 tsp potassium citrate -- this one seems to calm my brain down, make it less acid perhaps and helps with insomnia. This is, perhaps a good all round one to alkalize both the intracellular and extracellular eninvironments, but I tend to use the lemon/lime with BS the most since this is also very balanced.
Can one use BS, potassium bicarbonate, magnesium citrate combo for alkalizing extracellular?
Yes, you can mix these together without problems. But these will alkalize the intracellular environment more. Just take plain old baking Soda in water if you want to alkalize the blood."
08/03/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines replies: "Hi Joe... In answer to your questions:
Is Intracellular remedies more related to alkalizing for acid brain?
The lemon/lime and carbicarb remedies are perhaps the most balancing for your body and when you make the carbicarb remedies with citric acid, this seems to have more of an alkalizing effect on the brain. I was a bit of an insomniac and now I tend to use both the BS and lemon/lime remdies as well as carbicarb remedies in the evening depending on how I feel. And whenever I make the lemon/lime and BS remedies I always add a little bit extra BS to ensure an alkaline medium(the water). And if I need it more alkaline then I will add a little sodium or potassium carbonate instead.
How much of the lemon do you squeeze?
I squeeze the whole lemon, and if it is a small lemon then I squeeze 2 lemons and then add the BS. I'm quite tolerant of baking Soda, since I've been using it for a number of years now. I also take BS alone in water when necessary, useful for keeping your blood alkaline. That's the way I do it anyway and I've never had a bad reaction."
08/03/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines replies: "Hi Peter... Yes, you can add the magnesium citrate to baking soda without problems. I add magnesium chloride to ascorbates as well as baking soda quite often. To check compatibility of compounds for mixing -- have a look at this link to Ted's List: http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/remedy-combinations.html#TED"
[QUESTION] 02/08/2010: Karen from Ghent-belgium, Belgium: "Black tongue due to candida detox?
Hello, I am 32 years old, living in western europe, Belgium. I am truly happy to have found this website and got very enthusiastic on the remedies and exchange of experiences. As I wrote before thanks a lot for existing!
I started one month and a half to drink every morning a glass of hot water, apple cider vinegar, black strap molasses and turmeric. In the evenings, I usually drink a glass of warm water with acv, baking soda and some honey for taste. I felt better, but I have to mention I went slowly in upgrading the amount of AVC. I felt great, share the same experiences, it helped me to get rid of the morning coffee. I also have a balanced diet with lots of veggies, fruit, fish and I avoid (but not totaly eliminate) wheat products and sugar. I am just not very rigid in saying no but limit this to two times a week.
I lost 3 kg since I started doing this.
Now, since one week, I am at home from work with what seems a big flu. I was aware that I could get some flu-like symptoms from detox, but it is very cold, wet and just the season for flu so nothing wrong with getting a flu. I added some cayenne pepper and think I am doing allright.
What does bother me tough is this: now I have a black tongue. I rince with hydrogen peroxide (what I learned from this site), brush well, drink a lot of water, clean my tongue with a scraper, etc... I had to go to my regular dokter for prescribing me some more days because I still have headaches and suffer from fatigue. So I asked her what it could be. She said "candida" in the mouth and prescribed me daktarin oral, to fight the fungus in my mouth.
What to think about this? Is it my body in detox trying to get rid of the candida? Should I be more severe in stopping all wheat and sugar (which are already very limited)? Should I not take this dakarin or is it recommended? Do i risk just fighting the symptoms and not the cause? I don't know. The only think I do know is that I sincerely lack energy now. Today I skipped my usual health cocktail, maybe I was detoxing too fast... I must keep on working tough, I can not permit myself to stay at home and go into detox all the way. Please help me out... Must do something wrong OR do this very well... I am confused.
Thanks a lot for your responses!
02/09/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Karen...If you have Candida in the mouth then it's very likely you have candida in your intestines as well. I've had Intestinal Candida, and managed to cured it. Here is a past extract of what I used and how I cured it:
"Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Deborah and Cured from Niceville...I had candida three years ago. My symptoms were psoriasis, eczma, BM and toilet only once every 4 days if I was lucky, tired and sluggish all day, severe grogginess and brainfog in the mornings, jock itch(tinea cruris) and overweight. I also regularly caught colds, flu etc many times a year on a regular basis.
This is what I took to cure candida:
* Ted's alkalizing remedies using either whole squeezed lemon/lime or 2 tbspns ACV plus 1/2 tspn baking soda(Arm & Hammer brand) two or three times a day. This is Ted's Alkalizing Remedy and this is THE NUMBER ONE CURE for Candida in my book.
* One tablespoons of virgin coconut oil stirred into my coffee at least 3 times a day.
* Blackstrap molasses in my coffee, no refined sugar or aspartame sweetener allowed in my diet.
When I started this remedy at the beginning, I got fairly severe flu-like symptoms -- it almost seemed as if the remedy was making me worse. But this die off or Herxheimer Effect always happens when you get the fungal toxins in your blood from the microbes and fungus, so think of it as a good sign.
Your liver and kidneys are overworked initially, until your immune system can get on top of it. After this die-off it was easy. All my skin problems just disappeared slowly (except the jock itch -- but that's another story) and I haven't had a cold or flu in 2 years.
Mind you, it took me a full year to completely get rid of my candida. And even though I'm clear of candida now, and since it is very difficult to eat non-acidic foods these days, I still always alkalize and take coconut oil a couple of times a week as a preventative even now (plus supplementing borax, magnesium, natural sea salt etc as recommended by Ted on this site)."
02/09/2010: Karen from Ghent-belgium, Belgium replies: "Bill from the philippines:
Thanks a lot for your answer. I hadn't read the posts on candida yet but did so this morning and I came across your post as well. Especially the confirmation that flu-like symptoms can occur reassured me. So I took my acv, blackstrap molasses, tumeric and cayenne-drink as usual in the mornings. I also take often (and will increase) a spoon of pure coconut oil and went to the health store today for grape seeds extract (which is really expensive over here - but I got lucky I found it). I am looking forward for results. The only thing I am not sure of is whether to take the anti-candida oral get the doc prescribed... Could this speed up the proces and could this be helpful? Or should I say no to this traditional medicine? .. I ask this question because I've seen a site from someone with chronic fatgue who is cured of candida and in the end completely cured buy eating natural healthy foods, but she recommended this so I guess it could be helpful... The thing is that I am working and really need this money, can't afford to go into this kind of deep detox again, .... Yeah I know... Thanks for answering my question, what do you (and other readers) think?"
02/09/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Karen...A black tongue can also be caused by :
* Using antacids frequently like Pepto-bismol (for upset stomach) and others that are based on bismuth chemicals -- such as bismuth subsalicylate.
* Over-use of antibiotics.
* Candida infection -- although in most mouth candida/thrush infections the tongue is white or patchy white, with thick and sour-tasting sputum.
Check these links:
02/09/2010: Cc from Slc, Utah replies: "To Karen - Your tongue was probably white then it turned black. I would say that you used way too much H202 (Hydrogen Peroxide) and killed everything that lives on your tongue the good and the bad. I also did this once when I used to much H202. It went from white to red then to black then back to white. Your tongue will most likely go back to a white color after a few days. Take Care."
06/22/2010: Labes from Toronto, Ontario, Canada replies: "To Bill from San Fernando, Philippines.
Hi, Thank you very much for you feedback and I'm very happy to hear that some people really do win the battle against Candida, it encourages us to continue the treatment, however, I have a few questions to adress to you, one of them is about Ted's Alkalizing diet:
How could you make your body Alkaline? It's impossible. Death will occur if the ph of the blood is other than its range which is 7±0,4. The homeostatie will always try to keep the optimal ph of the body.
You can verify in all the scientific articls and you will never find such Alkaline body or acidic body. Alkalosis or acidos are two deadly disease when the ph of the body is other than 7,4±0,1.
I can understand a diet low of carbohydrates but I couldn't understand the myth about Alkaline or Acidic blood.
Also, some readers put an accent about cellulase which some companies claims it will kill candida. That is an abvious big lie. Candida Albican has no cellulose in its membrane, the main ingrdients are chitin, ergosterol, B-glucan.
I will appreciate your response.
Thank you very much."
06/23/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines replies: "Hi Labes... I could also perhaps produce many logical arguments as to why alkalizing works so well as well as provide links to many websites that support and explain how alkalizing works towards body health.
But the way I see it, there are already hundreds of entries by Ted from Bangkok on EC that adequately and thoroughly explain the chemistry of body alkalizing far better than I could ever describe it.
Ted from Bangkok is a University educated chemist/microbiologist who has worked for many years in the US food and medical sectors as a chemist. He probably has more knowledge about drugs, herbs, minerals and vitamins in his two little thumbs than I have in my brain...LOL. Ted is now a healer, and a very successful one.
All I know is that Ted's simple alkalizing remedies had an astonishing effect on my candida. I also took VCO, molasses etc which helped, but it was really the alkalizing that drove out the candida as far as I was concerned. And, along with candida, my psoriasis, eczma, bloating, low energy, athletes foot etc. also completely cleared up.
I could argue this and that with you about Ted's Alkalizing Remedies and it would probably go on for ever. I prefer not to do that, achieves so little. If you don't believe in alkalizing that's OK.
For myself, I really find it unnecessary to prove anything, because I feel so much healthier now and this is my only evidence -- by observation of the results of alkalizing against candida in my own body -- which, to me, needs no arguing. It worked and is self-evident.
I also know about drugs like Nystatin, Threelac etc for candida. I never tried them because I didn't particularly want to use them because their side-effects can be pretty awful.
Your comment about the hype on drugs that contain cellulase being so effective against candida is well taken and is yet another reason why I really don't use drugs unless I absolutely have too. Because it's so difficult to trust the drugs companies. It has been well known for many years that alkalizing helps the body. Here is one interesting example -- how Dr Orian Truss discovered one of the most effective cures against candida -- lugol's iodine (which is very alkaline):
Dr Orian Truss and Iodine
06/23/2010: Labes from Toronto, Ontario, Canada replies: "Thank you very much Mr Bill for the fast reply. My first comment about Ted's Alkalizing remedy was not about its effectiveness against Candida, but about Alkalizing the body. I will be very happy to have from you some scientific articles about the body or the blood being Alkiline. Beleive me, I'm even reading physiological reference to find such claim about the possibility to rise the Ph of the body above or below 7.1±0,4. I couldn't find one.
Why I asked such questions is because of my sickness due to Candida ( Which I believe I got it from abusing antibiotics). Also, because I couldn't accept the Alkalizing theory doesn't mean I didn't accept the remedy. Why? because the remedy ( lemon bicarbonate) could have a effectivness against Candida directly or indirectly that has nothing to do with the Ph of the body.
The other reason why I'm sceptical about the ph theory is because some bacteria use their urease enzyme to make their enviromnent Alkaline like H.pylori.
Thank you very much for the link of doctor Orian Truss. I did try lugol's solution but it doesn't help much.
Thank you very much. God bless you."
06/25/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines replies: "Hi Labes...Much thanks for your reply. You probably know the protocol that I followed to get rid of my own candida and regarding your questions about alkalizing -- here is a link to a comment stream where I describe why alkaline bicarbonates are good for you:
Alkalinity and Sodium Bicarbonate
Here is a link to a comment stream where, in several detailed comments, I completely describe what protocols, herbs and supplements I used to rid myself of candida:
When I used this protocol I did not know what I know now -- 3 or 4 years later. My remedy took a whole year to get rid of my candida, but Ted has said that you can get rid of it in for months.
Here is the protocol I would use now:
To Improve your Body Terrain
*Take Ted's Lime/Lemon alkalizing remedies at least 2 times a day as recommended. These alkalizing remedies create the worst possible environment for the candida while simultaneously creating a healthy body terrain. Also take the BS with water remedy on it's own one hour before bed - this will help you get a good nights sleep. If you have problems with this, then use Ted's Carbicarb remedy -- this is more balanced and incorporates potassium to balance any sodium issues. Potassium citrate can be taken to more directly aid intracellular alkalization. See this link and read Ted's description.
*Take at least 2 tablespoons of VCO per day to help constipation and intestinal issues. VCO contains mainly medium chain saturated acids, very protective for the intestines, liver and blood. Contains lauric acid, caproic acid, caprylic acid and myristic acid -- these act as anti-microbials helping to destroy the candida as well as protecting the intestines from any further external microbial invasion. See this link. I don't use vegetable oils anymore, I cook only with VCO now.
*Take herb supplements like Milk Thistle or Dandylion because the candida die-off will create a big strain on both your immune system and the liver which will have to clear the dead candida debris and toxins from your blood. Think of this as taking out the candida trash. This die-off will give you flu-like or liverish symptoms and perhaps some diarrhea. Accept this and work your way through it as it should disappear once your body gains control again.
*Detox and get rid of heavy metals from your body. Due to diet and if you've taken medicinal drugs for any length of time you will have an accumulation of heavy metals. To get rid of this just drink green tea 2 or 3 times a day and eat Cilantro 3 times a week in salads. You can also use Sodium Thiosulphate to get rid of heavy metals, arsenic, cyanide and chlorine. These will get rid of heavy metals over time. Heavy metals create an ideal acidic environment for candida as well as for nanobacteria. Se this link for more details on ST.
Remedies that Directly Attack the Candida
*Drink 1/4 teaspoon of borax in a litre of water throughout the day. Take this for 4 days on then rest for 3 days. So, 4 days on, 3 days off with the Borax. Borax is the ultimate anti-fungal, also good for bones and helps to balance the hormones as well as leeches out the fluoride from your body. Borax affects your male hormones or androgens in a viagra-like manner, which is why you must rest for 3 days -- to avoid gland over-stimulation. Read about Borax here.
*Methylene Blue(MB). You can buy this at any aquatics or fish supply store. Used to get rid of fungal and bacterial infections on fish. Also used throughout the last century as a successful anti-malarial. Taking MB on its own will turn your urine green and the whites of your eyes blue, but if you take at least 1000 mgs Vitamin C with the MB, these side-effects will not occur. Dosage: Two drops of a 0.1% solution of MB in a full glass of water once or twice a day. Do not take MB after 3 or 4 o'clock in the afternoon - it gives you alot of energy so you will not be able to sleep !!(I learned this the hard way...LOL) MB is a deep acting anti-fungal that is able to penetrate the blood/brain and blood/bone barriers of the body. MB is also a marvellous mitochondrial super anti-oxidant for your brain -- gives you lots of energy. Read about MB here.
*Supplementing with at least 12.5 mgs of 5% lugols iodine per day -- two drops a day in a glass of water. You know the story of Dr Orian Truss, candida and lugol's iodine. Iodine will also help to balance your hormones and is also able to remove dangerous halogens like fluorine and bromine from your body.
*Hydrogen peroxide(food grade) I just use a capful of 3% HP in one litre of water a day when I need it. Sometimes I splash 3% HP all over my body, this kills everything bad topically as well as being absorbed quite well transdermally into my body by this method. Very potent against all forms of bacteria, viruses and fungus. See this link for more on HP.
Additional and Useful Vitamin and Mineral Supplements
Vitamin C - Taken in the more alkaline form of Sodium Ascorbate -- at least 1000 mgs twice a day. Vit C is an anti-oxidant and also chelates heavy metals as well.
Magnesium -- Taken as Mag Chloride, Mag Citrate or Mag Gluconate. Dosage: 250 mgs twice a day. Magnesium is involved in over 300 major enzyme body processes and also gets rid of any staph or strep bacteria quite well. Magnesium Chloride is the best form of magnesium in my opinion. See this link.
*Natural Sea Salt or Fulvic/Humic Acid. Both of these will act in the same way as absorbtion synergists as well as help createÂ a healthy intestine and help to supply other much needed minerals to your body.
Avoid the following: all sugar and sugar foods, dairy, vegetable oils, aspartame, sucralose, saccharine, soft drinks, junk foods, fried foods, baked goods containing white flour, red meat. Your diet should contain low amounts of white meat like chicken, turkey and fish with high amounts of vegetables. Rice is OK.
There are other methods of helping to get rid of candida, but I've taken a blanket approach -- I always assume that other problems caused by other resident bacteria, viruses etc will arise because of candida and these also need to be addressed and so this is incorporated into the above protocol.
Ted from Bangkok will have many more remedies up his sleeve that will work -- such as BHT(Butylated Hydroxy Toluene) and Azoxystrobin(fungicide), but these remedies are hard to obtain and I've never used them so I can't really comment. But I have used(and still using) all the above recommended remedies and I haven't been ill -- no colds, flu or any other problem -- for well over 3 years and I'm over 60 y o now. I've tried to keep the candida remedy relatively simple yet potent. See this link for more descriptions from Ted on Candida."
06/27/2010: Labes from Toronto, Ontario, Canada replies: "Hi Bill, thank you again for thr reply.
I have read that Japaneze plum can rises the Ph of the body, a theory that I don't believe till now, could I use them agaist candida then? Do you have any idea about those plums and their activities against candida?
Also, I need some references that talk about how to control candida with body ph?"
06/29/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines replies: "Hi Labes...Thanks for your reply. In answer to your question:
Also, I need some references that talk about how to control candida with body ph?"
In my last post to you, I provided many suggested remedies for your candida, along with 10 links which both described the efficacy and safety of these remedies. But apparently you will only be satisfied or convinced by standard medical research, which is very unfortunate because even if you search all the recognized databases like Medline and PubMed (which are both controlled by the big drugs companies), you won't find much on these remedies or on alkalinity. I know, I've it tried too.
I have spent much time using Google Scholar, which ONLY searches research databases and have found very little on the usefulness of alkalization or much info on the remedies I've mentioned. I was frustrated with this, so, due to my suspicions, I applied some reverse logic. I knew that drugs like Vioxx and Gardasil could kill and were very dangerous, so I searched for Vioxx on these respected medical databases and lo and behold I found many glowing accounts from research papers on Vioxx. Vioxx has recently been taken thru the courts, and it has been proved that this drug has killed about 26,000 people from iatrogenic heart attacks through Vioxx use. By the way, Vioxx has not been withdrawn and is still being sold out there.
The lesson here is simple. Be very careful what you believe, and be careful of what info sources you trust. If you read a research paper then the second thing you do is find out who funded the research, and if it is one of the Drug Giants, then simply ignore it. However, if the research is independently funded -- ie not funded by the drug companies, then you can, perhaps believe it.
There is also much spoiler research out out there by the drugs companies. A wonderful example of this is the Wolff-Chaikoff research report and criticism of Abraham/Browntsein's recent iodine research. In their rebuttal, Drs Abraham and Brownstein completely demolished the Wolff-Chaikoff iodine report as unbelieveably amateurish, innaccurate and deliberately badly executed. I'll leave you to Google this evidence for yourself.
I also find it odd that you seem more driven to prove or disprove the alkalization remedies on this site than you are to cure your own candida. As well, I also find it suspicious and odd that you hardly even mention your own candida. Most contributors who have candida usually talk about it willingly, to help other people but you hardly mention it at all. What are your symptoms? And what kind of candida do you have? Is it Cutaneous Candida, Oral Candida, Intestinal Candida or Systemic Candida?
I wish you luck with your Umeboshi Pickle and I hope you find the answers that you are looking for."
06/29/2010: Labes from Toronto, Ontario, Canada replies: "Hi Bill, Thank you very much for the reply.
Don't get me wrong. I just want to understand the theory and believe me I do believe you when you say that it healed you. I.m taking the same remedy as you describe before: lemon bicarb in 8oz of distilled water.
My symptoms are bloating even after eating very small meal, Jack-Itch, very very low energy, constipation and depression sometimes.
I apologize if I did hurt your feeling when I asked you those questions.
Have a nice day."
07/01/2010: T from Maryland, Usa replies: "Labes, with those symptoms have you considered a gluten-free diet trial? I'd do that for 2 months and see if you notice improvement. It can be tricky at first to make such a big dietary change but it is certainly not impossible. Just be very careful about hidden sources of gluten (and you cannot cheat by even a single crumb!). Tons of info on the net to help and many GF products now available. If you try this, please do let us know if it helped you at all. Best of luck!"
07/01/2010: Labes from Toronto, Ontario, Canada replies: "Hi T from Maryland, USA.
Thank you very much for your reply. I'm just living day to day with stomach pain and those horrible bloating even if I just eat salad. Also constipation is horrible. I'm not working because I feel like a death living with very vey low energy.
I'm now on a gluten free diet but there is no big improvement. I eat just once a day salad with some eggs. I don't touch bread or any cereal products.
Last year I changed my doctor because of heart palpitations and jumping heart and he gave me H.pylori test, it came back positive. He prescribed for me Hpac for one week. I felt great for 2 weeks and then all the symptoms came back worst then before. 3 months after than my specialist did a endoscopy with a biopsy to see if H.pylori is still there, he said that there was no H.pylori. He couldn't find it in my stomach.
One thing I don't understand is why I felt good for the week when I used the Hpac agaisnt H.pylori and why the symptoms came back after than worst than before. I was trying to find if the antibiotics can kill the fungus during the begining of the treatment but I couldn't find one. The other mystery is if I became H.pylori free after the Hpac why I still have the pain? It is a big dilemma for me.That let me think of Candida as an issue and not H.pylori. Since that time, I started taking probiotics and sticking to the atkin's diet. I'm so skinny now. But I still have the problem.
Thank you T for your time and your help."
07/04/2010: Funnybones from Henderson, Nv replies: "Hi Labes from Toronto, Ontario, Canada
For your Candida you should try colloidal silver. Your Candida has probably turned into systemic fungi now and it will take a while to clear it up. You have to look in the Web to see what you have to avoid eating to get rid of it. No grains, limited fruits, no sugar, avoid dairy, etc. You can eat most vegetables and meat but not with sugared sauces or floured sauces. Its difficult to get rid of but the silver will be a big help and help you avoid other infections as well. Look up both. You have to get rid of it or it will do you in in the long run. I talk from experience. Good luck"
08/21/2010: Tommy from North York, On, Canada replies: "Hi Bill,
I'm happy to know that you are doing well after your struggle with candida. I just want to ask you if you had a white coated tongue and also if you experienced a constant stomach pain at the upper abdomen?
Thank you very much."
08/23/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines replies: "Hi Tommy... When I had candida I had a white tongue but no stomach problems. I also had constant bloating and constant constipation. Don't forget that candida sufferers can have between 20-30 different symptoms -- and no two candida sufferer's symtoms will ever be exactly the same. For instance, one person with candida might have constant constipation(like I had) but another might have loose stools or constant diarrhea. I have also read many posts here with people who think they only have oral candida or thrush when they have a white tongue. But if they also have other fungal skin problems like psoriasis, dandruff, eczma, athletes foot or jock itch or intestinal problems as well, then I would immediately assume that systemic candida is present and treat it accordingly. The dangers and robustness of Candida should never be underestimated."
09/04/2011: Lou from Tyler, Tx replies: "I have found that coconut capsules are the greatest supplement to combat constipation. Plus, they are anti-fungal. I can't take VCO orally, it gives me gerd. The capsules are little miracle workers! I have probably bought every supplement known to mankind. I wish I had bought this one first."
10/15/2011: Connie from Antioch, Ca, Usa replies: "I have a question/concern about supplementation because it seems to me that since Candida is a digestive tract issue, doesn't it interfer with the absorption of anything you ingest? Does anyone suggest it is a good idea to get tests on your vitamin levels so you can judge how well you are absorbing what you do take and maybe adjust dosages upwards or downwards? Do you think this could be an answer to those of us who try an internal protocol which might not have worked? Thank you for your time."
07/08/2012: Caren from Northridge, Ca replies: "I read that you should take borax for 4 days then take 3 days off. How long is the entire process? How many series of 4 days total should one take borax?"
12/16/2010: El from Cairns, Australia: "I have been taking acv/lemon and bs. And after two weeks taking this combination I feel worse. I only take 1/8 of bs, 1tbs ac, half lemon at night. I feel tired, bags under my eyes and slight burn in stomach. I do have low blood pressure. And all symptoms of candida flared up ie: thrush, flem in throat, dizzy, weak. Could you please advise. Greatly appreciated
08/19/2010: Tommy from North York, On, Canada: "Hi everyone, Doctors aren't of great help and I feel a kind of pain over my left diaphragm and in my back. When I wake up in the morning, my tongue is coated with white thing ( Candida probably), and when I eat a food the white coat goes away and then comes back. I put oregano oil directly on my tongue and I saw in the mirror the white spot loosing its form ( Candida dying??). I started with hydrogen peroxide but sometimes I vomit. I don't know if there is a solution to this side effect. Also sometimes I do experience heart palpitations and I don't know if this is due to Candida or something else. I realized before that when I used to eat the jelly pudding, I felt that somethings is squeezing inside my esophagus and stomach. Could that be Candida or somethings else? Thank you very much and God bless you."Replies
09/27/2010: Randy from Jersey City, Nj replies: "Could be candida. I have candida, and I have similar pain in my left diaphram and back. It is from gas/bloating, and also having so much tension in the area over years. You may wish to go see a doctor or naturopath about the vomiting and palpitations. You may also want to do an endoscopy. Thanks for the tip about the oregano oil. Good luck"
09/27/2010: Tommy from North York, On, Canada replies: "Hi, I just wonder which medication did you take or supplement to deal with your candida? I have all those symptoms and my doctor doesn't believe me for Candida. I have a coated tongue in the morning. I wonder if there is a test to see what is this white coating in the tongue?
Thank you very much."
09/27/2010: Brenda from Morganton, Ga replies: "I have read that a simple test for candida is as follows: First thing in the morning, before brushing teeth or drinking anything, spit into a cup of water. Allow it to sit a while. If the spittle remains floating on top of the water, you do NOT have candida. If it gets "stringy legs" going down into the water, you DO have candida. When I have had candida symptoms, this test has proven true. Also, I have read that if you have a white coated tongue, you have candida. Period."
09/28/2010: Lisa from Waynesboro, Virginia replies: "The candida diet is the most important thing you can do. (no sugar, yeast at all in any foods; no fruit or juices). I have been on the candida diet for 61 days now and have seen much improvement. I'm almost through all of the symptoms. Of great importance for me was undecylenic acid, caprylic acid and a good multi and probiotics. The undecylenic acid was the most critical element; detox can be tough at times, but use hot teas and epsom salt baths. You will feel better!"
11/19/2010: Michael from Ny, Not Selected replies: "Its true so no more SUGAR because it's the most important of the avoidance foods to limit in your diet as it directly increases the amount of Candida in your body when it is consumed. There is no way around this one, if you choose to continue to eat sugar on a regular basis you will continue to develop Candida in your body. This includes not just the obvious forms of sugar but also white flour and breads which convert to sugar in the body. Fruits unfortunately need to be removed too, however when you are finally healed from candida cures tips I strongly recommend you get back to eating fruits regularly again. As well as the YEAST because consuming more yeast in your diet when you suffer from Candida will directly encourage Candida growth. This is arguably due to the fact that some believe Candida is capable of assimilating other yeasts and using them to further develop Candida growth."
[YEA] 11/24/2010: Julie from Davie, Fl replies: "I have Candida but my symptoms are a little different. My eyesight is getting worse and my eyes are sensitive to light, I have this woozy feeling in my brain causing me to have vertigo, forgetfulness, and a limited vocabulary. For some reason I can't seem to remember the names of things. Like I'm trying to explain something and I completely blank out and can't find the word I'm looking for.. I've developed an allergy to dairy and I believe it has to do with it causing mucus. I had tingling feelings in my toes, I started getting yeast infections once a month (they have since stopped). Heart palpitations, feeling drunk, not coordinated, anxiety (never had it before), toe fungus, constipation.. I think there's more but I believe I'm forgetting a few symptoms (damn candida).. I went to my doctor and they found nothing, I went to the neurologist had my brain scanned and they found nothing, went to the ENT and same thing... NOTHING!
So I started doing my own research. I googled My brain feels woozy.. And I found some forums where people were talking about vitamin deficiencies.. So I started researching vitamin deficiencies... I found that I lacked magnesium, D and B-12. So I went to the store and bought them on my lunch break. Took them and OMG I felt a shift in my brain. Very weird. Everything seemed to look very clear. And I had more clarity to my thoughts. I have started doing many different things. I took dairy out of my diet. Eating way more fibrous vegetables, Lots more fruit (candida friendly). Started with Ted's Lime bicarbonate (not so sure its working). Taking Selenium, Probiotics, Oil of Oregano, magnesium, garlic and I just ordered Grapefruit Seed Extract."
11/24/2010: Tommy from North York, On, Canada replies: "Dear Julie, You are absolutely right about brain fogs related to the deficiency. The main cause of B12 deficiency is a damaged intestinal mucosa. The damaged mucosa could be attributed to many thing but the parasites are the big problem. The parasite infection leads to Candida. And I read so many people who suffered from white tongue that their tongue became normal once the parasite was gone. So you should test for a parasite infection. Best regards, Jean"
12/17/2010: Name from City, State replies: "Also take fresh ginger and horseradish, chamomile/catnip/basil tea (no milk with or before), get some serious exercise, especially lifting your arms above your head, and get enough sleep. No caffeine or stimulants, coffee, chocolate, dairy, gluten..."
01/16/2011: Aleena from Dallas, Tx replies: "You can't know the relief that I felt knowing that I found someone like myself. I don't know how long I've had candida, but seeing as how it can occur when hormones change, it could be that I've had it for 7 years. I was put on birth control when I was younger to regulate my hormones, but it seems to have caused more damage rather than having fixed anything.
My symptoms are as follows: I became constipated. And I don't mean occasionally, or having a few less BM, at my worst I had a single BM every 2 weeks. My memory started to falter. Being a person who has photographic memory, this was incredibly evident. My joints ached. I had been very athletic and suddenly I found myself moving slower and struggling to keep up with my fellow athlethes, where I had previously had been on varsity. My skin changed. I have olive skin, but over the years, my skin lightened, and rather than getting a nice tan when I was outside, I began to develope splotches. My eyesight, seemingly overnight, got worse and all of the sudden each eye doctor says that I must have pre-mature glaucoma because the pressure in my eyes is very high. I have a white coated tongue. At one point in time I fell incredibly ill and the symptoms that worried me most were the constant sulfuric burps.
Now what may be a little shocking to all of you, is that I'm just 20. I never had any say what we ate because we ate what my father could afford, but I think that may be one of the main contributors. I want to get rid of whatever it is I have. I hate feeling this way, and if I knew that I had had some sort of infestation I would have done whatever means necessary to cure it. I love this website and I will begin treatment immediately, however I have a concern. I have receieved the wonderful news that I'm pregnant with my first child. What treatments can I do while I'm pregnant? Please, help from anyone would be great and very much appreciated."
01/16/2011: Brenda from St Saviour, Jersey replies: "Hi I would suggest trying oil pulling which is safe to do while pregnant. Full details and instructions are listed under oil pulling on this site, hope this helps. have a safe and happy pregnancy."
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 01/19/2011: Cured from Houston, Tx replies: "Hi, I don't normally post to bulletin boards but I've cured my condition and want to share what I did. The symptoms I had were dry mouth with a rough surface, white and yellow coating, little red spots, and a deep split in the middle. Also tiredness and brain fog. Worst of all constant bad breath. I had this for years and would brush often and chew gum but it didn't help.
First, here are the things that didn't work when I tried them individually: drinking lots of water, stopped caffeine, stopped social smoking, stopped social alcohol drinking, gargling with mouthwashes(hydrogen peroxide made it worse), consuming apple cider vinegar, taking herbs(fang feng tong shen wan), eating more veggies, brushing w/baking soda, selecting food/drinks based on pH, stopped using steroid nasal spray.
In the end, I feel one key practice did it: use tongue scraper w/hard edge(but not too hard) then mix few drops of oil of oregano and grape seed extract in 1 cup hot water. Swirl mouthful for 30 sec and swallow. It will be bitter but repeat as often as you can, all day if possible. I saw results after 1 week and by 2nd week my tongue was red again and moist and slippery. It was a feeling I had almost forgotten. The split is not gone but getting smaller all the time.
Here are some additional things that I did in conjunction that may or may not have helped: reduced usage of steroid nasal spray (instead rinsed nose with water and little sea salt daily), stopped all caffeine and soda(even diet), drank only hot or warm water, took supplements milk thistle, coconut oil, multivitamin, and royal jelly.
I'm so much happier now! Thanks to everyone who posted on this problem and good luck!"
11/21/2012: Sweat Pea from Somewhere, Usa: "I have been reading so many posts on EC about candida infections that I found it very curious no one has posted the simple spit test to find out if you actually HAVE an overgrowth of candida. My journey into natural cures began about 3 years ago when I was given a book about natural cures that they don't want you to know about. Many of you know the book I'm talking about. I read it cover to cover as suggested in the book itself and my eyes were opened to the deception and brainwashing I have been exposed to for years. Big pharma is not the answer to a huge majority of what we call medical problems. It's mainly the problem to additional problems.
I read about how antibiotics can lead to a full blown candida overgrowth that gradually works its way up your body and even into your lungs causing asthma. Needless to say, a light bulb went on! I realized that all the prescription drugs were NOT HELPING! I knew when I took Albuteral it was making my lungs weaker. Then add Advair and steroids, my health got worse by the week. I did a the candida spit test and it revealed that I had a very bad case of it. That's when I bought a candida detox that is at health food stores and on the internet. After completing it my asthma was gone! Gone! I was breathing free and easy! No more gasping for air in the middle of the night! That was more than 2 years ago.
So this is the spit test - When you get up in the morning you simply spit in a clear glass of water (like an 8 oz glass), as much spit as you can spit into it. The glass should be clear and glass, not plastic. Don't eat or drink anything before the test, it must be the first spit of the day. Then simply wait about 2 minutes and look at the glass. If you see a lot of stringy things hanging down into the glass that indicates a candida overgrowth. My glass was shocking, tons of stuff hanging down. When I tested recently I had nothing hanging down at all. If you want to get rid of candida, first make sure that's what the problem is, it's just so easy! I would be glad to answer any questions anyone has about this. Getting rid of terrible asthma has truly changed my life and I take NO prescription drugs today. NONE! Please try the spit test and post your results, I'd love to hear about it! Thanks!"
09/19/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "I have recently stumbled upon a very useful questionnaire and tool that Dr William G Crook -- who wrote The Yeast Connection -- used to more accurately diagnose whether any of his patients had candida or not. With his permission, his questionnaire has been put up on this site:
Time and again on EC I have read posts from desperate people who know perfectly well that there is something very wrong with them. And when they go through all the docotor's tests, the doctors tell them there is nothing wrong with their bodies. Some believe that they might have candida but have no confirmation from doctors. Other's call it a mysterious illness because they don't know what the problem is and ask desperately for some help. Candida is a very dangerous disease due to its robustness and due to its associations with so many other diseases and conditions in the body.
I have said often that modern medical research really doesn't have a good reputation in properly being able to diagnose early or even late stage systemic candida problems.
William Crook's questionnaire is about 4 pages long and works from a point scoring system. Dr Orian Truss also included a questionnaire in his book -- Candida: The Missing Diagnosis. Truss's questionnaire was 11 pages. This just illustrates just how difficult it is to accurately diagnose candida, because it always seems to be associated with a host of other allergic, bacterial, viral and parasitic diseases.
For those who are unsure of their current condition or those who honestly suspect candida, taking the questionnaire should help to give you a clear answer."Replies
09/19/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "I've found the same test for candida(William Crook's Questionnaire) given in my original post at another site. This test is presented in a much clearer format and the point scoring is also automated and much easier to use. See this link:
09/19/2012: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi, It's funny because I almost posted a candida questionnaire which I have given to friends to check if they may have candida. It is very similar to the one you have the link to. Here's the link to the one I use:
[SIDE EFFECTS] 12/29/2009: Anonymous from USA: "I have been on a Candida Diet for about 6 months, definitely with some improvements. However, just couldn't get rid of this recurring yeast infections. After further research I kept on hearing about capryllic acid, and what a powerful anti-fungal it is. What I didn't know is that you have to slowly build up the quantity (the lady in the store suggested 3 in the morning, and 3 in the afternoon). Long story short, 7 days later I had a Herxheimer reaction, also known as a die-off reaction. Mine was pretty crazy though, very scary especially if you don't know what the heck is going on and have no one to talk to about. For about a week prior I noticed red, hot burning checks, especially after I came out of the shower. Then my cheeks started becoming really dry and started slightly peeling. As mentioned, 7 days later, I woke up with extremely itchy palms in my hand and feed. Within hours the itchiness spread throughout my entire body. Something was obviously in my blood stream. It was a weekend so I went to Urgent Care as I started noticing really huge hives showing up. I was told to take Benadryl, which somewhat helped. I broke out in hives and rashes for the next two days. On day 2 and 3 both my eyelids were swollen. The doctor simply called it allergic reaction and prescribed steroids. Somebody told me to go and get hydro colon therapy for 3 consecutive days. I had my second one today. Most of my rashes, hives and itchiness are almost gone. And my eyelids are almost back to normal. In retrospect I found a lot of online information how capryllic acid can cause a herxheimer reaction, which is why you need to slowly build up the potency over a couple weeks. I'm so glad I didn't take the steroids. Well, hopefully I rid my body of the candida by now :-)""Replies
11/07/2011: Phill from Pleasant Hill, Il replies: "When searching to overcome ANY health problem, please don't neglect to consider msg and free glutamate. I fought candida, heart palpitations, fatigue, muscle symptoms, fibromyalgia, headaches, neck pain, foggy thinking, stomach problems, trouble swallowing, and so much more for a great number of years.
I believe in limiting carb intake and eating only complex carbs, along with fresh healthy vegetables and protein. I believe in exercise and stress reduction and prayer or meditation. But the thing that finally took away the remainder of my symptoms was to eliminate msg and free glutamates from my diet. Also aspartame! These are excitotoxins which do great damage to your body!!!
The most helpful information that I have found are on the websites msgtruth.com msgmyth.com nomsg.com and dogtorj.com. Also, glutathionediseasecure.com. "
[YEA] 08/24/2008: Suzanne from Abbotsford, BC: "About 10 years ago now I was having regular, severe bouts of vaginal yeast infections, seeming to coincide with my cycle. Then I began experiencing numbness and tingling, first in my hands and feet, then my lips and tongue, then pretty much everywhere! Doctors had no answers for me and any "solution" they suggested would have been worse than my condition. One day I was in a health food store, and noticed that the symptoms for systemic candida were identical to what I had been experiencing. The book also said that caprylic acid killed yeast, so I bought some right away and the yeast infections stopped and the numbness and tingling went away gradually. However, I didn't take probiotics at first, and I did have some reoccurence of symptoms when I couldn't get caprylic acid, so I began taking an enteric-coated probiotic blend (which ensured that it maked it through the stomach acid to where it was needed in my lower tract). Caprylic acid has a rather nasty burp aftertaste (a little food to chase it down helps) so I much prefer the probiotics and have been symptom-free for many years now."
[YEA] 04/21/2008: AC from West Midlands, England: "I read about Coconut oil on this site and went to my local health store to ask if they had any. They said no, but they suggested I take caprylic acid, which is in coconut oil and helps cure yeast overgrowth. I purchased it to help cure my athlete's foot and stomach discomfort.
I purchased it and I took one 350MG tablet daily as per directions. It did not cure my athlete's foot like I wanted, but I felt less hungry, less tired, and my stomach felt better. I also lost weight without serious effort. I've been taking it for two months now.
Warning: I experienced two things while taking this: stomach discomfort and a slightly yeasty odor coming from my body for a week or two.
The yeasty smell rubbed off on my washcloth and towels. I discovered by accident that putting a capful of hydrogen peroxide (the regular kind from the pharmacy, not the food grade kind) in my bathwater stopped this. It stopped me from emitting the yeasty smell and from transferring it to my wash cloth and towels."Replies
12/07/2008: LuAnn from Rapid City, SD replies: "My local Walmart carries organic virgin coconut oil 16 oz. I prefer this over expeller pressed coconut oil. It has a different tast. So cold process or virgin does taste better. I use it in my teas. I cook my eggs with it. I use it in my hair as a conditioner. I have even used it up my nose for the sinus issues candida cause. I put some each nostril and lay down with a warm compress on my eyes. If you were congested you will get up and blow your nose and it feels great.
I have friends who have exemia and most of them said it is gone in 3 days.
I just tried the collidioal silver tonight in a nazal spray bottle. What a wonder full relieve not only 2 hours later, the 4 day headache is gone. Still have pressure by no where like before. Thanks"
[YEA] 08/04/2010: Revcarlag from Kansas City, Mo, Usa replies: "Caprylic acid has also worked for me. I was just on flucozanole for one month and didn't get better. I started back on caprylic acid capsules last night and today I have die-off, so I know that it is working. I also take oregano oil capsules with it--the double whammy. As for colloidal silver, I saw a man who took that and his skin turned silver and it will NOT go back to it's regular color. Stay away from that stuff!"
[YEA] 03/02/2008: Peter from Melbourne, australia: "Caprylic acid is a good cure for candida and it is completely harmless, being a C8 acid extracted from coconuts. It is readily available as a tablet. I am not certain if it affects people allergic to coconuts."
[YEA] 12/02/2009: Marlo from Hattiesburg, Ms: "I tried so many things to overcome my candida infection but the single most effective thing I tried was drinking a few dashes of cayenne pepper powder in a beverage. Vitamin and probiotic supplementation also helped some. It relieved my depression/fog, fatigue, heart palpitations, shortness of breath, yeasty body odor, itching, allergies, anxiety, high blood pressure, "blurred" vision, generalized muscle pain and spasms."
[YEA] 05/23/2011: Bobbie from Sydney, Australia: "I suffered from candidiasis after I had had 4 days of iv antibiotics (in hospital) for a bowel infection - and then, while my intestines were quite vulnerable (flora imbalance), I ate a mouldy pancake (unknowingly of course). Huge, itchy red welts spread over my body withins days. I even had white fungus growth in my ear canals (my ENT specialist showed me on his video screen). I tried most of the remedies on this site with some success (oregano oil, bicarb in drinking water, kefir and h2o2 etc). With each remedy that I tried, I got better but found it was true that I had to make sure I was trying new anti-fungals and alkalining remedies to keep on top of the infection (apparently, it mutates very quickly). It wasn't until I drank Chamomile tea that all my symptoms finally disappeared.
I had 3 cups of hot and v strong chamomile tea within a couple of hours (I used tea bags, although I imagine loose leaf would have been better). It gave me a big headache but I kept it up with at least 2 cups per day, for the next week.
I have been free of candidiasis for 2 years now and feel that the combination of exercise, healthy eating (alkalising foods), rotating anti-fungals and especially chamomile tea helped me enormously."