Table of Contents
- QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
- POPULAR REMEDIES
- ACV, Baking Soda, Magnesium, Vit E
- Adequate Chewing of Food
- Apple Cider Vinegar
- Baking Soda
- Baking Soda, Lemon Juice, Coconut Oil
- Baking Substitutions
- Boric Acid
- Candida and Ph
- Candida Cleanse
- Candida Comments
- Candida Detoxing Symptoms
- Candida Symptoms
- Candida Test
- Caprylic Acid
- Chamomile Tea
- Check for Sjogren
- Coconut Oil
- Colloidal Silver
- Cream of Tartar
- Dietary Changes
- Dietary Changes, Omega 3
- Food Allergies
- Garlic and GSE
- Garlic, Dandelion, Turmeric, Cayenne
- General Feedback
- Ginger Tea
- Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE)
- Grapefruit Seed Extract, Apple Cider Vinegar
- Heavy Metal Detox
- Hydrogen Peroxide
- Juicing, Dietary Changes
- Live Sauerkraut
- Low Fat Diet, Mms
- Lugol's Iodine, Baking Soda
- Master Cleanse
- Monarda Tea and Frequency Generator
- Multiple Remedies
- Oil Pulling
- Ph Balancing
- Reader Theories
- Remedies Needed
- St. John's Wort, Eliminate the Pill
- Ted's Remedies
- Traditional Chinese Medicine
- Urine Therapy
- Vitamin B3 (Niacinamide)
- Wheat Grass Juice
- Xylitol, Bentonite Clay
07/27/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Tony... You are certainly right that Ted advises sea salt supplementation. And if you read your link -- he advised sea salt like this only for infections in the lymph. As I've already described, you have not got infections in the lymph. Your inflammation is..."
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07/17/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa: "Back to post an update with my health status. The past 7-8 days have been sooooooooooooo much better. I'm now starting to feel a lot better Bill. I think the really bad symptoms I was having was the peak of my detox/die-off. I honestly believe that Bill. I'm now able to actually function everyday. I'm in no way cured from my candida overgrowth but it's getting better eack day. I think my digestive problems have started healing & that's the biggest benefit right now. I'm now eating 3 meals per day & gained close to 2 lbs. since early last week.
I think we're getting that turnaround I've been eagerely waiting for Bill. It's been just over 2 months now of treatment. I did cheat with one meal the other day. I had some red meat but not a lot. I also had 2 mini-muffins that for some reason I couldn't resist at Shoney's the other day. I went there & eat the salad bar with my own dressing but they had a sweet bar with those mini-muffins that I just couldn't turn away. They were small but I know it's still sugar. I won't do it again while on this protocol. I do feel so much better now though. Thanks for your support Bill & God Bless! I'll post back at a later date!"Replies
07/17/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... Thanks again for your feedback, which is a truly wonderful outcome and is much appreciated. I have helped many people with candidiasis on this site as well as by email and it is always the case that the initial healing crisis of detox symptoms and herx die-off symptoms is what shocks and horrifies the sufferer into believing that the protocol is perhaps not working as a cure but is simply making things worse. Many candida sufferers simpy give up the anti-candida protocol at this point, but then how will they be able to cure their systemic candida problems -- whose symptoms are bound to get much worse as a result of quitting ?
The difficulty with candida is that doctors have such a poor record of diagnosing candida until its later stages. Doctors always recommend antibiotics which only further encourages intestinal dysbiosis and candida spread. Candida is always associated with other diseases lke Crohn's disease, Lupus, GERD, IBS, Leaky gut and a myriad of other diseases because candida is so capable of greatly depressing the immune system because of its aflatoxins and mycotoxins metabolites, which sets the ideal conditions for more general and further pathogen invasion in the body. Perhaps some can now unnderstand and admit that systemic candida is a very complex and dangerous disease which is always usually associated with further pathogen invasion. In Dr Orian Truss's well-known book -- Candida:The Missing Diagnosis -- he describes Candida's 79 mycotoxins(poisons) which have all been identified through research. Many of these mycotxins are also carcinogenic.
The fact that you are now gaining weight is very heartening and further evidence that the changes we put in -- the betaine HCL, the pancreatin/bromelain and taking the Bicarb remedy after meals, in a timely manner, is working and helping you to digest your food properly now. This is also great news and I am relieved because this was a serious problem. This regimen will also have a beneficial effect on suppressing candida problems in your gut.
What you should now be concentrating on is increasing your dosages of lugols iodine, chlorella etc to try and get back to the recommended doasges within the protocol. If you do this then you will heal even more quickly.
Finally, I must again congratulate you on a wonderful effort so far. Hopefully, once your body is completely clear of heavy metals, bad halogens and poisons, your healing will accelerate and astonish us all!!"
07/17/2012: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi Tony, I just wanted to congratulate you on getting over the hump! Good for you for seeing this through! You were tenacious and did it! And you are truly on your way to healing. That was not an easy feat but perhaps you will be a shining example to others who feel as if it's not plausible to overcome. Bill acted as a wonderful mentor to you to guide you through all your pitfalls. Also, don't beat yourself up over the mini muffins! We are all fallible and the best thing to do is pick yourself up, dust yourself off and get back on the wagon! As a dancer, we had to be so careful about our diet and weight and sometimes I would just beat myself up so badly when I "gave in" to some temptation. You are doing great!
Again, congratulations on how far you've come! Lisa"
07/19/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "I think I got my hopes up too soon. Yesterday, I increased my iodine dosage from 12.5 mg to 25 mg. For the 3rd time when increasing iodine my blood pressure increased as well as the pain & pressure feeling in the back of my head & neck. The first two times I increased the iodine dosage I wasn't taking extra dosages of niacin & magnesium.
That's not the case this time. I'm taking 1500 mg of nicain & 1200 mg of magnesium daily split in 3 doses. It seems that my body doesn't handle iodine too well. I seemed to be OK on the 12.5 mg dosage. I have a capsule (powder) form of it so I can't do much about the dosages.
I don't know what to do now about the iodine. I know it's one of the best remedies for attacking the candida as well as other health benefits. This could also be a part of the detox coming from the increased dosage I guess. I just don't see 12.5 mg of iodine helping too much. I wanted to work my way up to 50 mg eventually but I don't see that happening. The last two days I have felt pretty bad again. It has to be the increased iodine dosage. Any suggestions or comments? Thanks & God Bless!"
07/23/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... Keep taking the lugols at 12.5 mgs per day and the rest of the protocols as to what you can bear. You are already alkalizing and taking the borax dosages everyday. These should help to reduce the candida considerably anyway. Try and concentrate on detoxing your body using green tea, cilantro and chlorella if you can. Your bad reaction to chlorella, a very effecient detoxer of heavy metals, seems to show that you may well have large amounts of heavy metals etc in your body.
The other problem you have is poor digestion -- but hopefully that one is solved now because of doing the betaine, pancreatin and alkalizing protocols. So don't get too downhearted about your problems because you're actually doing pretty well and there is definite improvement.
When you get the hair analysis done -- I suspect that this will tell us alot more about your heavy metal problems."
07/24/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks Bill. Well, I still am feeling pretty bad since last posting. I'm still on the 25mg of tri-iodide suplement(not Lugol's). I toughed it out & didn't go back to 12. 5mg. The 1 1/2 pounds of weight I gained is now lost again. I'm now at 150 pounds which is the lowest I've been since starting the protocol.
I've been taking both betaine hcl & bromelain along with a digestive enzyme formula for my digestive problems which appear to be MAJOR. I've been experimenting with the dosages. The stand-alone HCL & Bromelain is probably what I need to go up in with dosages. I've been stuck with one capsule each at mealtimes with all of the above mentioned supplements.
I've got to put a stop to this weight loss! My nutrients are certainly being eaten up by something. Probably a combination of candida & low stomach acid. I think I'm just gonna go with 2-3 capsules each of HCL & bromelain with meals & 2 digestive enzyme formula capsules each meal as well.
The pain/discomfort/swelling feeling coming from the back of my head & neck has gotten worse as well. It's been awful in recent days. What do you think is causing this Bill? I've done as you suggested a long time ago with increased niacin & magnesium dosages. I'm taking daily dosages(split) of 1500mg of niacin to go with 1200mg of magnesium. I even increased my B Complex to twice daily but that hasn't helped either. Please let me know what I need to do with these current issues. Thanks again & God Bless!"
07/24/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... At the moment, there are many reasons why the protocol could be affecting you the way it is. You could have excess heavy metals, excess bromide, fluoride or bromide, excess mycotoxins and/or excess aldehydes in the blood from the candida die-off or even mineral imbalances that are the cause of all your problems -- we just don't know yet. But if you have a hair analysis or blood/urine analysis done -- this will help us pinpoint the reasons.
Have you had a hair analysis done yet?
If the iodine is still causing you problems then I would simply return to the 12. 5 mgs dose and stay with that.
As you say, the weight loss problem is a priority now and the reason is probably improper digestion. You are taking all the alkalizing remedies and so its doubtful whether you have acid body causing this problem. Really the supplementing of Betaine HCL and pancreatin and dosages are up to you -- depending on what you can bear.
Again, I would urge you to get a hair analysis done as soon as possible."
07/25/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks Bill for yet another quick reply. I'm still waiting for the naturopathic doctor to get back to me on the hair analysis. I've left 2 messages for her but she's only in her office 2 days/week. I believe it's Monday & Wednesday only from 8AM-1PM.
Once I hear back from her & get an appt I'll let you know. I'm staying on the 25mg dosage of iodine. I've increased my betaine HCL & bromelain dosages to 2 capsules with every meal along with 2 digestive enzyme capsules with every meal. BTW, you failed to address my question about the continuing pain/discomfort/swollen feeling coming from the back of my head & neck. Is this due to toxins/heavy metals/etc. overloading my body or candida itself? Remember, I had this going on before I started using the protocol but at times it's worse now. It's really an odd feeling & is there on a regular basis.
I also still have swollen glands in my neck. The difficulty swallowing continues as well. However, it only affects me when swallowing saliva & not food or other liquids. I'm taking 1 tsp. Daily of sea salt to help with the swelling in the glands in my neck but it doesn't seem to help. They will temporarily go down but only for a couple days. I guess the candida protocol is having a hard time getting the lymph nodes in my neck cleared from congestion.
The neck was the only place on CT scans that showed lymph node swelling & those were anterior ones. Is there anything else I can do for the swollen glands? I know you said to use the Lugol's for the difficulty swallowing but I don't have Lugol's or other liquid form either. I only have the capsule(powder) form of tri-iodine.
I thought I was maybe over the hump but that most definitely wasn't the case. I felt better for about a week but not now. Things have again taken a turn in the opposite direction. I guess it's all part of the process. It may take months to get really over that hump. I'm trying to be patient but it's certainly hard. Thanks & God Bless!"
07/25/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Please add this to my previous reply. Bill, you mentioned acid body. I know one thing! I can't keep my PH readings on the alkaline side. One day my urine PH will be around 7.25 but the next it's around 6.75-7.0. My saliva readings are basically NEVER above 7.0. The saliva seems to stay at 6.5-6.75. I always try to do the urine readings first thing in the morning. I do my saliva different times of the day. I try to do the saliva 2 hours after a meal or 2 hours before a meal. I think I might just have a mild/moderate case of acidosis. It's too hard to keep my PH in the alkaline range.
I've even recently added vegetable juicing to my regime. 2 cups daily of a mixture of carrots/cucumbers/broccoli/spinach/fresh tomatoes/lettuce/cabbage with a pinch of sea salt. These are basically all alkaline veggies so I don't understand my PH not staying up. Any ideas? BTW, I've also ordered some organic rice protein powder for increased protein intake as well as a BCAA(Branched Chain Amino Acid) supplement. I'm trying to cut out all meat if possible. That may be why my PH wants to stay acidic. I usually eat at least one serving of white meat daily. I think I need to cut meat mostly out(maybe one serving weekly) & use the rice protein powder to get my proten that way. Thanks again!"
07/25/2012: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe replies: "Tony, those numbers don't sound particularly acidic to me."
07/25/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks for the reply mmsg: My PH numbers were much lower than they are right now. When I first started the protocol I was getting acidic readings from 5.5-6.0. I've been able to raise my PH some to the levels now but I still can't get it up to the required consistent range of 7.0-7.5. I think it's just too much meat in my diet.
I've been eating more white meat due to the protein digestive problems. I think I just need to basically cut meat out nearly completely for awhile. I'm eating lots of salads & now veggie drinks. This should keep/raise my PH readings in the alkaline range especially when I'm also doing the alkalizing remedies to go along with alkalizing minerals in magnesium, potassium, & sodium. Unless I get my PH up & keep it up then I'm going to have a harder time healing. Thanks!"
07/26/2012: Bill from San Fernando, La Union replies: "Hi Tony... Your pH readings are safely in the alkaline zone. The safe alkaline pH zone is between 6.4 and about 6.8 or 7 for both urine and saliva. When you measure the pH of urine, this is not the actual pH of the blood. Urine is the excreted waste product of blood serum. If your homeostasis mechanism detects that your blood is acid, the kidneys will excrete more acid thus driving your urine pH lower and more acidic. Exactly the same holds for saliva -- which is the secretions from the salivary glands and not the blood -- which is a measure of intacellular acidity. You actual blood pH should be steady at 7.35 and should not vary more than about plus or minus 0.5 or you would be at death's door. If both your urine and saliva pH measurements are within a pH of 6.4 to 6.8 then you are in the safe alkaline zone. So please stop worrying -- you have, in fact, done really well to achieve this.
From what you've told me about your headaches and lymph problems, I think you should stop the sea salt protocol. I wanted you to try this protocol to see if your problrms were linked to bromide detox. Since this has had little effect then you should stop the Sea Salt protocol as this may also be aggravating your lymph problems.
Your lymph problems are probably due to lymph blockages caused by fibrin or protein debris build up in the lymph. For this you need to take more protease enzymes such as bromelain. Here is what Ted says about swollen lymph inflammation:
"For the lymph node I will get bromelain or digestive enzymes and take as much as I can handle since there is no standards in digestive enzymes, I will use a common one, say wobenzyme (not the best) and take it two tabs, 6 or 8 times a day, for a couple of days. It also helps if you have astralagus and cordyceps, if you don't, then it does not matter."
So taking larger doses of bromelain should help digest and clear the blockages in your lymph causing the swelling and inflammation pain."
07/26/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... Regarding your question:
BTW, you failed to address my question about the continuing pain/discomfort/swollen feeling coming from the back of my head & neck.
I've already addressed your lymph gland problem. But your headache problems could be due to mineral imbalances or because of die-off reactions or due to detox reactions in your body. At the moment we don't really know for sure. That's why a hair analysis would be so useful -- it will tell us what heavy metals, halogens etc are in excess and what nutrients are lacking in your body."
07/26/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks again Bill. You say to stop the sea salt part of the treatment. But, Ted has this posted about treating swollen lymph nodes: http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/lymph_nodes.html
That method uses sea salt & H20 so it's sort of contradictory. I'm already taking extra bromelain anyhow. I take the stand-alone supplement twice daily on an empty stomach & also get bromelain from my digestive enzyme formula taking 2 capsules with each meal.
Maybe from what Ted says & you posted I need to take more. I'll go up to 3 bromelain capsules daily for a while & 3 digestive enzyme capsules with each meal. I'll go ahead & stop the sea salt protocol except for using it to salt my salads & veggies.
BTW, I do have some good news. I was finally able to schedule an appt. With a local homeopath. I actually talked to her over the phone today for a good while. I meet with her Tuesday of next week for my first consultation but have already sent her my paperwork with health history. The only thing I don't like is I have to drive about 1 hour for the appt.
It's also not cheap for this stuff. She wants to do an acupuncture assessment(not actual acupuncture) to test me for just about anything health-wise. That cost $300 for the initial assessment. I can also choose to just do the parasite/hair analysis to check for parasites, mineral deficiency, & heavy metals which is much cheaper. I'm considering the full assessment though at $300.
Of course, I would then be treated according to her findings. Treatment options would be killing parasites first if I have them & homepathic formulas as well as any mineral/nutrient imbalances. I'll post back next week once I get tested & have results. Thanks again Bill!"
07/27/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... You are certainly right that Ted advises sea salt supplementation. And if you read your link -- he advised sea salt like this only for infections in the lymph.
As I've already described, you have not got infections in the lymph. Your inflammation is caused by high protein deposits or debris blocking the drainage of the lymph glands. This can also cause pain and inflammation in the lymph glands.
Here is Ted from Bangkok's advice for curing inflammation caused by large protein deposits in the lymph:
The problem of swelling of lymph nodes is too much toxin (die off) build up as the lymph nodes tries to clear the debris, but it is too much and they get clogged. So basically I basically avoid seaweed, iodized salt and sea salt altogether to reduce general swelling. The debris is clogged with proteins and constipation doesn't make any better. So I would consider getting diarrhea with milk of magnesia (with magnesium hydroxide 5% and no alluminum) to clear myself. For the lymph node I will get bromelain or digestive enzymes and take as much as I can handle since there is no standards in digestive enzymes, I will use a common one, say wobenzyme (not the best) and take it two tabs, 6 or 8 times a day, for a couple of days. It also helps if you have astralagus and cordyceps, if you don't, then it does not matter.
I hope this is clear for you now -- in other words there can be more than one reason or cause for inflammation and pain in the lymph glands.
I'm really pleased that you are going to a naturopath for a proper diagnosis -- I think this will tell us alot about your condition and help you greatly. I hope the naturopath is a good one."
07/27/2012: Timh from Louisville, Ky, Usa replies: "Tony, According to Hulda Clark, we ALL have at least some STAGE of parasites (which would technically be an infestation). Everyone she checked w/ her synchrometer tested positive for a parasite or parasite stage and more than one species for many folks. IMHO many supposed Candida Infections are actually the viral & bacterial side effects of Parasite Infestation (they literally excrete pathogens as a waste product of their metabolism). In this scenario, the common treatments for Candida work marginally for as long as one maintains the regimen, but never a resolve or lengthy remission.
I will have to echo a previous post of Lisa from Ca, as a patient that has experienced very good results from a Zapper (30,000 ohm).
Hope this helps and good luck."
07/27/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks Bill & Tim for your replies. I do believe I have both a parasite & virus overload to go with the candida. I will find out more this coming Tuesday. I've decided to go the full route & pay $300 for the acupuncture assessment. I want to know everything that's wrong with me. A simpler parasite & heavy metal check wouldn't be sufficient nor good enough for my health crisis. I have way too much going on.
Bill, I do undestand better now about the lymph nodes issue. I think mine are due to multiple issues. I probably have an overload in bacteria, fungus, parasites, & viruses causing the glands in my neck to still be swollen. I do have to ask something though. Ted suggest to stop sea salt, seaweed, & iodized salt but isn't iodine in the same type category as salts? Salt does have iodine in it. I'm sorry I guess I'm reading too much into what he says.
Anyhow, anxious to see what happens next week with my testing. Of course, I'll post back once I get the results. Thanks guy & God Bless!"
07/27/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Please add this to me previous reply.
Bill, I forgot to mention something else in my last reply. The homeopathic doctor has asked me to stop all protocols, vitamins, minerals, & supplements. She asked this due to these substances causing problems with the assessment testing. She doesn't want any substances in my bloodstream for the testing phase.
I have to take all of my supplements, vitamins, & minerals with me to my appt. For her to evaluate for my needs. I hope to be able to use at least some of them because I've spent quite a bit on them. She said if they were organic/pure then I might be able to continue some of them to keep me from spending more money than I need on supplements from their pharmacy.
The only thing she will allow me to continue is the alkalizing remedies. I can contiune the lemon/baking soda/H2O remedy until my appt. Keep in mind, this is a homeopathic doctor so all treatment is based on my individual profile needs from the testing. She said I may get to continue taking some of the supplements I'm on now but probably not many of them.
I'll probably be on both homeopathic formulas as well as other supplements. They have their own pharmacy for the homeopathic formulas. I'm surely to not be taking as much stuff as I've been taking since I'll have treatment plans based from my testing profile. I might even be doing the OnDamed Therapy as well.
I don't know the cost of this type treatment but it seems like an option to go along with the homeoapthic formulas & supplements. Thought I'd let you know about this stuff as well. Below is a link to her website so you can take a look at her profile/services:
Thanks again Bill & God Bless!"
07/27/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... I wish you the best with whatever you decide. I have also had a good look at the link you provided.
The ONDAMED Therapy is interesting because it is a bioenergetic therapy which uses low frequencies to readjust metabolic and energy problems in the body. This is very different from using the Rife Ray Machine (like the BCX Ultra as Ted recommends) because the RRM uses pulsed waves with harmonics to actually kill pathogens at audio frequencies on a high frequency megahertz carrier. RRM uses resonance and impedance matching at specific audio frequencies to destroy different pathogens. The ONDAMED therapy appears to be a rejuvenating therapy and is mostly used as part of an anti-aging protocol. From their website, ONDAMED is good for the following:
* Reduce pain, inflammation and edema
* Facilitate cellular repair and regeneration
* Slow or reverse bone loss and support skeletal health
* Improve blood circulation and activate lymphatic drainage
* Support elimination of toxins
* Promote absorption of nutrients and minerals
* Improve sleep patterns and mood, and increase vitality
* Reduce the harmful effects of geopathic and environmental stress
So this therapy may well benefit and improve your headache and lymph problems.
On the downside and after a thorough search of their website -- including Success Stories and Testamonials -- I found no testamonials or evidence of any success at treating systemic candida issues. The other odd thing was that their website doesn't actually advertise any of the nutrients that they use. I hope these wont be too expensive.
Whatever you decide, may I wish you a rapid cure from all your problems -- and please don't forget to stay in touch and update us on your progress on EC. Success stories are always a worthwhile learning experience."
07/28/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "The OnDamed Therapy does seem like an option for me to keep open. I'd bet this is pretty expensive though. This was something we didn't discuss in regards to pricing. I just know I'm looking at $400-$600 with my initial testing & treatment. She did tell me if parasite infestation was found this would be the first line of treatment.
This would be treatment with homeopathic formula(s) for parasites to match my profile. This would be for up to 6 weeks treatment & cost up to $88 depending on which formula. All other homeopathic formulas cost $25-$35/bottle per 4-6 weeks of treament. I'll undergo a follow-up acupuncture assessment after 3-6 months of treatment.
They're not a large outfit although they have 4 total offices in the US. This naturopath has offices in both Waynesboro, North Carolina & Butler, TN which is the one I'm going to for treatment. She actually resides in Butler, TN in the Blue Ridge Mountains.
She has offered to provide me contact information for some of the patients she has treated. Of course, she can't discuss any patient treatment herself. I will be given a lists of homeopathic remedies/treatments when I go to my 1st appt. I can turn down any treatment of my choosing regardless if she says I need them or not. They have been very detailed & helpful over the phone.
There are 2 local acupuncturists that have actually suggested me to not go anywhere else but to her for alternative treatment. They say she's really good. She has treated quite a few cases of candida. She has actually dealt with many sorts of health problems including many diseases including cancer.
Just like you have told me & many others here at EC, depending on the severity & duration of sickness, there might not be any quick fix. I've let her know what I've been doing through your kind help Bill. She said what I've already done could make her treatment plan work faster since I've been detoxing & taking supplements already. It might not take as long as expected to cure me from candida & any other viral and/or bacterial overload. However, if I have to undergo parasite treatment, that will be up to 6 weeks & probably not be taking anything else during that time.
She said my continuing weight loss points to a probable parasite problem so attacking those boogers would be first. I can't heal unless parasites are killed off first. Then, she would go after all other health conditions based on my complete testing profile. She said just an estimated time for treatment varies for each patient. However, typical treatment for systemic candida is 6-12 months with homeopathic formulas alone but less if I include things like OnDamed Therapy & wellness coaching. She emphasized that what I've done to date for treating candida might cutdown on the length of time as well."
07/16/2012: Rachel from New York: "Hello, Im an African American, female, age 32, blood type A positive. For almost 5 years now I've had a debilitating intestinal pain (about 3 inches below belly button, middle) during ovulation. Sometimes the pain shoots down and can be felt near what feels like my anus. It also causes pressure on my bladder. Some of the pain is relieved with the passing of gas and difficult bowel movements, but that's only when I'm lucky.
I've had at least 3 ultrasounds of my uterus and ovaries while in ER's. Nothing significant was found. Ive also had a gastro doctor stick a tiny camera down my throat and in my anus. I had/have Barrets of the esophagus but nothing else came up. While I'm in this pain during ovulation, I have mucous in my stool and small white chunks that look like tiny pieces of scallops pass from my vagina. I also notice a yeasty smell if I've had bread or a cocktail and my discharge can be a bit heavy during this time. Every now and then my urine smells like protein. A couple times, I've had black specks in my stool and oil floating in the toilet. I also have problems with malabsortion.
MSM sometimes helps with the pain. Before Ted's alkaline remedy, I was taking a packet of poweder containing 25 billion probiotic and green foods purchased at whole foods. By luck I realized if I mixed it with orange juice or grapefruit juice (other juices dont work) and sipped it with meals, I could avoid the peristalic pain. For some reason, this doesnt work as well as it used to. I'm new to EC and found Ted's alkaline remedy and it has been the cure for the pain! While this remedy has helped the pain, I know the pain is merely a symptom of another problem and that's what I'd like to heal.
The pain started 5 years ago shortly after I ate saurkraut everyday for 3 weeks. I ate it to cure a long bout with acne. The saurkraut was a miracle. Note: it was unprocessed saurkraut purchased from Whole foods. I was acne free in 3 weeks. But shortly afterwards I started having these intestinal pains. Around that time I was using a vaginal (antibiotic) cream for bacterial vaginosis. Maybe I messed up a bactrial balance and repopulated improperly with all the bacteria from the saurkraut? Maybe Candida is to blame? Or Bacterial dysbiosis?
Note: I've also been on antibitiocs before for several weeks. A doctors said I "probably" had an ulcer because my blood tested positive for a bacteria commonly found in the stomach's of people with ulcers. Maybe it was H Pylori. Im not even sure if I had an ulcer. They were baffled by my constant heart burn, diagnosed me with a stomach ulcer at 21, and gave me some serious antibiotics.
Considering the info I've found on EC, should I treat for Candida? I have every symptom from depression to brain fog. Id love advice from you guys and gals because I plan to combine therapies.
~ted's lemon/lime alkaline remedy
~35% food grade h2o2 diluted to 3% (of 30 drops) in a liter of water with 1/4 teaspoon of borax. On my 3 days off from borax, I plan to use undecylenic acid as an antifungal. It's a great antifungal but Im not sure if it will tamper with the attempt to make my body alkaline.
~Sodium ascorbate 3 times a week
~Milk thistle tea for liver support
~Hot baths to help with detox
~Canida dietary changes
~Oil pulling twice a day with organic virgin coconut oil
Im not sure when to start adding probitics to the mix. They seem to cause chaos for me at times. for now, im leaving it out.
As of now, I'm constipated. But I usually am during and shortly after ovulation. I'll probaly do a saltwater enema today.
Any ideas on what's wrong or do you guys have any additional advice for treatment? Thanks in advance!"Replies
07/16/2012: Ed2010 from Oakville, Canada replies: "Too much remedies in your list. I recommend to minimize it, so you can really identify what is really helping you.
Of course, Ted's alkalizing formula is a must either ACV and baking soda or Lemon and Baking Soda. In fact, I am taking taking Ted's ACV and Baking soda daily. His finding is very accurate that body has to be slightly alkaline for the healling process to start.
HP kit starts all the damn, I suppose. It wipes all the gut flora.
If the Ultra Sound is normal, even retroverted uterus can cause pains during times.
If you doubt about Candida, here is a small self test. You need a small mirror for this. As soon as you wake up in the morning, just spit some saliva in the mirror in your washroom. Your saliva should be watery and immediately scroll down (this is the ideal condition) and fall. If you have candida, then the saliva will be gluey and will slowly scroll in the mirror or even stick in the mirror. This glueyness indicates the presence of Candida. Candida is very much prevalent and dormant in North America.
Mucus in the stools can be a sign of Inflammation, Infection or due to any intolerane. May be lactose intolerance, Gluten intolerance even a little intolerance can secrete more mucus in the instestines and come in the stools.
For Candida and intestines I will recommend to take:
HOME MADE MILK KEFIR - which is the king of probiotic food, which has a synergetic combination of bacteria and good yeasts. kefir can totally replenish your intestinal flora assist in food digestion. Also you can apply the same MILK KEFIR in the vagina for vaginal infections, this is will cure any yeast infections.
Hope this helps."
07/17/2012: H from London, Uk replies: "Hi! I would add ACV to your regimen. I have very bad ovulation pain and ACV seriously diminishes it- if not eradicates it completely. I would take 2 tablespoons 3x per day in water. Some people say to add molasses. Hope this helps!"
07/08/2012: Robyn from Melbourne, Australia: "Bill hello, there's the reason for some of my many seemingly insurmountable problems. I have low stomach acid, hereditary I think. My father used to suck on antacid tabs all day - of course the wrong thing to do. Low stomach acid can also help you have chemical sensitivities."Replies
07/09/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Robyn... The best remedies for low stomach acid, GERD and reflux problems are to take betaine hydrochloride and pancreatin with bromelain at mealtimes and then alkalize with sodium bicarbonate and water 1/2 hr to 1 hour after meals. This simply assures proper digestion from that point on and also helps to eventually heal the stomach acid problem. Supplementing sea salt or magnesium chloride between meals as well as taking an iodine source such as liquid kelp extract or Lugols Iodine also helps to regenerate more stomach acid.
Also be aware that if you have had GERD and low stomach acid for some years then it is also likely that your upper intestines are in dysbiosis so other pathogens such as candida, h. Pylori or c diff, for example, may also have spread into your upper intestines already causing you other related problems and you will have to take further steps to cure these problems.
Although it is certainly possible that your low stomach acid is a hereditary problem, I have another theory about this which might also interest you and help you.
Most siblings are brought up to eat and like exactly the same foods as their parents, so this eventually becomes a habit for life for the siblings. It might also be true that your father could have eaten a diet that simply encouraged or caused his own lack of stomach acid problems.
So if you are currently eating a similar or the same diet as your father then that same diet, which might have caused low stomach acid problems for your father, could also be a very good reason why you are having low stomach acid problems now."
07/09/2012: Robyn from Melbourne, Australia. replies: "Bill, thanks. my low stomach acid seems to be the least of my problems now although it and my diet could have caused some of them. I would be sure dysbiosis is further up my intestine. You might remember me, living in a car because I cant tolerate paint on the walls or carpet on the floors, or computers or phones. And with no energy and not being able to do any of those things I havent been able to get housing. I do everything as you suggest but the bicarb - makes the pain heighten!!!!! Sick for days.
P. S. As kids we ate what some might consider well. Pressure cooked veges, low fat meat. no snacks. But we were given dessert. That and the starch veg always made me ill. I think I was probably born celiac. I am now. But all of us when we were old enough to get away from our father went beserk. I was always sick from eating pizza and drinking alcohol."
06/26/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa: "Hey guys! I'm back for some more help. I increased my iodine dosage to 25 mg over the weekend. Now, my blood pressure readings are back up again. It was under control for a good while. I had also cut back on my niacin & magensium dosage recently as well. Maybe a combination of increasing the iodine & cutting back on the niacin is what's causing my blood pressure to rise again.
I seemed to be doing fine with my blood pressure with the 12.5 mg dosage of iodine. I think I should just go back to the 12.5 mg daily dosage of iodine. Maybe I should just stop the iodine all together for now? I don't know! I think I'll go back to 1000-1500 mg of niacin daily as well. I had been only taking 500 mg in recent days.
Any suggestions in regards to my blood pressure spike? Remember, I was diagnosed with hypertension a couple months back. The candida protocol (especially the niacin) along with cayenne pepper/ACV seemed to have gotten my blood pressure under control in the past few weeks but not since I started the iodine & increased the dosage. Thanks!"Replies
06/28/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Would Bill or somebody care to address my previous reply about blood pressure spike after increasing the iodine dosage? I decided to go back to my liquid form of iodine(not Lugol's) yesterday. This way I can control the mgs better with drops but it's a low concentration of iodine at 150 mcg per 3 drops. The form I had been taking was in capsule form(powder) at 12.5 mg per dose. There's no way to split the dosage unless I open the capsule up & I don't think that would work.
My blood pressure is still up but slightly lower than when posting 2 days ago. It's reading at 130-135/88-92. It was reading 135-140/90-95 a couple days ago. I just don't know if I'm gonna be able to use the iodine as part of my candida protocol because of the blood pressure issues. I'm sure once I get this candida under control then most if not all of these health problems will go away including the blood pressure issues. Thanks & God Bless!"
06/29/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... I'm not sure why you have reduced or have eliminated niacin and magnesium in your protocol. Both of these nutrients, amongst their many other benefits, help to reduce blood pressure. In the pre-war years, iodo-niacin, a high dose combination of niacin(500 mgs) and potassium Iodide(120 mgs) was used regularly to successfully reduce cholesterol and to reduce blood pressure. Niacin, at larger dose, as I have already explained, also helps to relax the body and improves mood. For research on higher dose niacin's effects on blood pressure and high cholesterol -- See these links.
06/30/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks for the reply Bill. You asked why I reduced my intake of both niacin & magnesium. My die-off/detox symptoms have been terrible so I cut back on the dosages on most of my stuff. Also, as soon as I went up to 25 mg of the iodine type I have my blood pressure went up. Wouldn't that make you think twice about taking the iodine? My blood pressure was doing fine for over 3 weeks until I started the slightly higher dosage of iodine. Now, it could be something else causing my blood pressure spike again but the timing seems to be the iodine.
I had stopped taking the 12.5 mg dosage & went back to the drops from the liquid solution I still have. I've been using a total of 40 drops per day which is about 2 mg of iodine. That's not much but more than I was taking from this particular brand. It's about gone now but I have the capsule form still left.
If you think it's okay to use the iodine then I'll just revert back to taking the capsule form at 12. 5 mg for a week or so & then try to increase slowly again. What's bothering me is the fact that I have hypertension issues & iodine isn't supposed to be good for high blood pressure, right? Please elaborate Bill! How could this be good for me? I'm not trying to dispute your knowledge but I am looking for an explanation to make me understand this better.
The last couple days has again been awful for me. I'm keeping the faith though. My wife & I had a long talk today about what's going on & handling this all through God. That's a big help to me & my family. We can't do this without him!
The pain & feeling of my head swelling towards the back has been stronger in the past 2 days. It's been almost unbearable pain. I've even been tempted to take an ibuprofen or something stronger than what I'm doing now. Maybe the cutback in niacin & magnesium has caused the pain to get worse or the detox/die-off is more of the problem. I've also had increased nausea in recent days. I've also had back pain close to where the kidneys are located. It's been really tough! Should my die-off/detox symptoms still be this bad after 7 weeks on the protocol? Thanks again Bill for your time & God Bless!"
07/01/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... From the symptoms that you have alreqady described, I believe that it is highly likely that you have high or excessive levels of bromide in your body. The symptoms of excessive bromide in the blood can indeed be many and are shown here. These symptoms also include emotionality, depression, kidney pains and headaches. Excessive bromide occurs and accumulates in the body through a lifetime of eating brominated bread and brominated vegetable oils. Bromine is also regularly used in agricultural pesticides and in medical drugs. This why chemically processed food like vegetable oils and bread are banned in the anti-candida diet.
Lugol's Iodine is very efficient at removing bromide from the body cells and puts it into the blood where it is removed slowly. Therefore, with high levels of bromide circulating in the blood, this fact can cause debilitating symptoms and a healing crisis.
I would strongly advise that you have a hair analysis done by a naturopath. This will at least tell you and confirm exactly what heavy metals and dangerous halogens(fluorine, bromine and chlorine) that you have in excess in your body. This hair analysis will also tell you what minerals and nutrients you are also lacking in your diet.
As I've said before, if supplementing lugols in large amounts is unbearable, then cut back on the dose and just concentrate on detoxing heavy metals from your body for a while. Once you have sufficiently removed the heavy metals/halogens from your body you can then take lugol's iodine later in larger amounts to kill and remove the candida.
To help remove the bromide from the body more quickly -- take Sea Salt once or twice a day -- 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of Sea Salt with water. This daily sea salt procedure helps to remove the bromide from the blood more quickly and should reduce your symptoms. The full sea salt protocol is described here:
07/01/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony -- In answer to your question : Should my die-off/detox symptoms still be this bad after 7 weeks on the protocol?
Lugol's Iodine is really the mainstay of the whole anti-candida protocol. Iodine efficiently works to remove heavy metals and bad halogens from the body just on its own. Lugols also kills candida and associated pathogens very efficiently and quickly. Besides this, iodine is hugely beneficial to the body.
You have been on the protocol for 7 weeks but you have only just started using lugol's iodine. You must try to settle into a daily and consistent protocol that you are happy with -- where the nutrients are sufficient to detox your body and kill off the candida at the same time. You will have to balance this, by reducing your dosages (as I have already advised), with the other symptoms from the healing crisis that you are having at the moment."
07/05/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks Bill for replying back to me. The reason I haven't gotten back to you is mostly due to my significant detox/die-off symptoms. For the past past 4-5 days I've had terrible nausea & just felt awful. These have been the worst 4-5 days since I started the candida protocol. I've been getting dizzy/feel like passing out spells as well. This mighty be part of the die-off/detox but I have to tell you this is concerning.
I have to bring something back up to you again. I know you've said to cutback my dosages of the supplements from the protocol you suggested for me. Do this to fit my needs. I've done that before already 2-3 times. I've rotated anti-fungal herbs as well. I'm now into my 8th week of treatment. Things seem to be getting worse for me.
Maybe I'm hitting the peak/worse part of my die-off/detox. I honestly don't know! I just know it's been awful on me the past few days. I know I've said this a few times before. My emotions are just all over the place right now. I know now that the liver holds & stores a lot of emotions/anger, etc. I know I have liver issues because of the fatty liver diagnosis back in April. I think this organ is being detoxed significantly because I've continued to take the liver support supplements(ALA, milk thistle, selenium) for the liver/kidneys.
I still have to ask & wonder about taking too many supplements. I'm taking so many it's hard to keep up with. I recently added Wild Oil of Oregano to my regime. I'm doing this for both the candida & my genital herpes treatment. I'm beginning to think I may have a viral overload to go along with the fungal overload. I could even have EBV(Epstein Barr Virus) but haven't been diagnosed with it.
Is there such thing as taking too many of these supplements to cause more problems from the stomach/intestines? It just seems to me all of these supplements/nutrients couldn't be good for the stomach.
I will say that I've been reading a few blogs from fellow former/current candida sufferers. They seem to have the same type of detox/die-off as me. One blogger said that she went through about 4-5 months of die-off symptoms. Not all days were as bad as others she says but very few good days during those 4-5 months.
Turned out she actually had a bad parasite problem so that's why she wasn't getting better quicker. Once she killed off the parasites her candida regime started working. This is another one of the reasons I started the Wild Oil of Oregano. It also kills parasites. Most candida sufferers also have a parasite problem. Up until this week I hadn't taken anything for parasites except for the borax which I see mentioned as a parasite killer. I decided to stop the borax for now while I take the Oil of Oregano for at least 6 weeks to kill the herpes virus (possibly other viruses as well) & also help with the candida.
Can the herpes virus spread to other parts of my body? I really think my health problems aren't just fungal related. I think & I even have proof(herpes) that my condition is also viral related. I'm just praying more & more everyday. I'm also praying that these latest & worsening conditions are now at a peak for die-off/detox. I know the Wild Oil of Oregano could make things in the detox/die-off category worse as well. However, I hadn't started the Oil of Oregano when these worsening symptoms started. I started taking it Tuesday of this week at 5 drops 2X daily under the tongue. I got worse this past weekend.
Below is a complete lists of what I'm currently taking:
- *Alkalizing remedies (3x daily)
- *Iodine (12.5 mg daily)(not Lugol's)
- *milk thistle (1,000 mgs total daily at meals)
- *ALA (600 mgs total daily at meals)
- *selenium (400mcg totsl daily at meals)
- *dandelion (2 capsules daily)
- *organic green tea (2 cups daily)
- *celantro (2-3 times weekly)
- *H2O2 (2 capfuls daily)
- *Wild Oil of Oregano (5 drops 2X daily under tongue)
- *Vit C (3,500 mgs total daily including multi)
- *magnesium (1,000 mg total daily including multi-vitamin)(taken away from meals)
- *zinc (30 mg daily)
- *niacin (B3) (1,500 mg daily)
- *B50 Complex (one daily)
- *multi-vitamin (4 tablets in AM, 4 in PM)
- *ginger (3 capsules daily)
- *cayenne pepper (1 1/2 tsp. Daily)
- *turmeric (1 1/2 tsp. Daily)
- *Natural sea salt (1/2-1 tsp. Daily with water)
- *stress formula (2 capsules daily)
- *Vit D3 (5,000 units every other day )(multi has 5,000 units as well) (average 7,500 units daily)
- *Super digestive enzyme formula(Now Foods) (1 capsule with each meal) (no longer taking Betaine HCL & bromelain as stand-alone supplements)
- L-Lysine (1,000 mg total daily on empty stomach)
- Krill Oil (2 capsules daily in AM)
- flaxseed meal(1-2 tbsp. Daily for colon)(bowel movements have been 2-4 daily & loose stools with mucus & what appears to be dead candida)
- As you can see I'm taking lots of stuff. I'm rotating the anti-fungals every 5-7 days with:
- *Pau D' Arco
- *Grapeseed extract
- *Stinging Nettle
- *probiotic at over 70 billion strains. These at a total of 2 capsules daily on empty stomach.
I do plan on taking the Oil of Oregano continously though for at least 6 weeks. It's not strictly an anti-fungal though so I won't include it as a rotational anti-fungal since it has multiple properties.
My appetite in the last week or so has been terrible. That's mainly due to the nausea that's worsened in recent days. I've lost now just under 25 pounds & down to 152 lbs. I'm not too concerned about the weight loss though. I think the less I put into my stomach the more time my digestive system can rest & allow my body to detox better.
Now, I don't want to lose too much more weight though. Any suggestions for appetite or should I keep the focus on allowing the digestive system to rest more? I've only been eating 1-2 meals daily & those have been small meals with no snacking in between. I've done pretty well on the anti-candida diet.
I eat white meat once daily with nuts, seeds, & quite a few veggies. I've cut sugar completely out now except for an occasional cup of fresh tomatoes which I see as a veggie anyhow. I don't eat any fruit at all now. I've also cut out all dairy as well! No red meat either! It's not been easy though! Your comments & suggestions are welcomed Bill! Thanks again & God Bless!"
07/05/2012: Heather from Leicester replies: "Hi Tony, I would just advise taking iodine, b vits and vit c maybe chancra and milk thistle. Have you had a blood test recently to check your blood counts are ok? Have you had a hair mineral analysis yet? B vits help improve appetite and mood. Lots of people feel worse around the full moon, take care x"
07/05/2012: Jeroen from Amsterdam, Nh replies: "Dear Tony, It seems as if you want to fix everything at once. In your case I would take it slower, because you are asking for trouble detoxifying and losing weight, and oxidising and antioxidising at the same time!
i think if you would leave out the H2o2, your system will feel a lot better. Pick that up later if needed. For now give your body time to get rid of the toxins slowly, or you will poison yourself. I would prefer to install the borax again, so you kick out the candida, while balancing through antioxidising only. Milk thistle is cleaning your liver, better wait with that untill the parasites have gone. After some time when all is stabalised, maybe in a couple of months, you can do a liver cleanse as Andreas Moritz teaches. And for now you could wash out your colon, supporting the detox, and exiting the waist faster, so you will feel less agony. Measure your ph level, and take probiotics to support the candida out, and strengthen your imune. Kefir is the cheap and effective way. Dont forget you might suffer from heavy metals which can give you a hard time if you burn to fast. Please be gentle, Jeroen"
07/05/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Hello Heather! The last blood count I had was back in May. I was still really sick but everything came back normal like most of the time with candida. I was specifically checked for thyroid problems & also creatine readings because of having acute renal failure when I was hospitalized back in April.
I've not had a hair analysis done yet. I've talked to a naturopath over the phone & she thinks all of my health problems are candida related as well. I've been taking extra B vits but my appetite is still way down in recent days. Thanks!"
07/05/2012: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi Tony, I know I've corresponded with you in the past but felt I needed to remind you of what I said before. Perhaps, you need to slow down. Also, you are taking soooo many supplements! I think it's overtaxing you. I have found simpler is better. Even reading your posts, I get a sense of confusion in you regarding your game plan and also a whirlwind of emotions you have expressed. Try to go back to Donna Gates' work and read what she has to say. I am certain she would tell you to simplify and instead of probiotic pills, try some fermented foods such as Bubbie's sauerkraut or kimchee or make your own fermented veggies. They are loaded with living good bacterias! It seems like you keep wanting to add in more supplements/ remedies instead of simplifying. More is not always better. Take care, Lisa"
07/06/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... Much thanks for gving an update on your protocols. I have noticed that you are taking a host of other remedies besides the anti-candida protocol. I have also noticed that there are some serious clashes in the usage, dosages etc of some of the remedies you are taking at the moment. Here are my points, with recommendations:
* Hydrogen Peroxide
Stop using the Hydrogen Peroxide protocol. HP is highly useful at killing pathogens quickly. But HP works as a pro-oxidant which can have some downsides and side-effects. For instance, using lugols iodine and HP together within the same daily protocol tends to cause these nutrients to neutralize each other. HP has pro-oxidant action whereas iodine has anti-oxidant action -- hence they will neutralize each other which constrains and reduces both their benefits. HP lasts and is effective in the body for only about 2 hours -- because the body removes it quickly. Iodine lasts for a much longer time period in the body. HP also neutralizes other important anti-oxidants in the body like Vitamin C, glutathione peroxidase and catalase. HP, when taken in high dosages as you are doing, is also well known to cause bad headaches, nausea and loss of appetite. The only reason I have included HP in my anti-candida protocol is only if lugols iodine cannot be obtained and used(I have since clarified this in the protocol now). I have found that HP is a reasonable alternative to lugols iodine if lugols cannot be found or people cannot afford lugols in areas like Asia and Africa where I have also helped candida sufferers. But HP should not be used together with lugol's iodine for all the reasons I've stated. So stop using the Hydrogen Peroxide and just use the lugol's iodine as advised.
Oil of Wild Oregano
You are taking dosages of oil of oregano that are way too high. This can also cause nausea and loss of appetite. Reduce your sublingual dosage of Oil of oregano to just 2 or 3 drops twice a day. And be careful what you read on blogs -- one man's cure dosage might be another man's poison. Remember that there is no such thing as one size fits all.
You should not take such large dosages of zinc for such a long period because this kills appetite and can cause mineral imbalances. So reduce your zinc dosage -- take it only once a week from now on as advised in the anti-candida protocol.
You should be taking both the Sodium bicarb with water(one hour after meals) and either the Lemon/Lime with sodium bicarb and water or the ACV with bicarb and water( twice a day outside mealtimes). The former helps digestion and alkalizes the blood and the latter alkalizes the cells. You need to take both to successfully alkalize the whole body.
I honestly think that not using BH is a mistake. I believe that BH would help your problems considerably. I also think that your nausea and appetite problems have not been caused by BH but are more likely caused by taking excessive dosages of HP, Zinc and oil of oregano. Betaine Hydrochloride is essential to restart proper digestion and to stimulate your appetite. If your stomach acid strength is below proper strength levels -- main stage digestion in the small intestine will not happen and your problems will likely continue to increase through pathogen spread. It is also well known that appetite is governed by stomach acid and that supplementing BH actually works to increase appetite as well as encourage proper digestion and helps to kill pathogens incoming with the food. You have a weight loss problem that may well be due to poor or inadequate digestion that is probably caused by lack of stomach acid. That's why it is essential for you to take Betaine Hydrochloride.
I have already advised that you get yourself checked out for parasites in an earlier post. I was treating a lady in the US with similar candida problems and similar symptoms to you -- nausea, headaches with loss of appetite. She discovered that she had parasites and took steps to remove them and she is now improving. The Hulda Clark multi-protocol is a protocol that uses wormwood, black walnut, clove oil etc. See this link for the full Hulda Clark Parasite Cleanse
I have also advised you, in various posts, to have a hair analysis done. This will tell you exactly what heavy metals and bad halogens that you have in excess in your body. It will also show what minerals you are lacking in your diet. This will be a great help and would give us useful and accurate information on how to relieve your detox problems.
Lysine, when taken with high dosage vitamin c, is extremely useful at suppressing the herpes virus. You need to increase your daily dosage of lysine to 1000 mgs, 3 times a day which is taken with equivalent dosages of Vitamin C as Ted from Bangkok recommends.
Your diet is fine and I congratulate you heartily on this. Another recommendation is to eat your bigger meals during the daytime -- at breakfast and lunch. When you have dinner, your body goes into another mode at 5 or 6 pm which is not beneficial for digestion. This is why you should eat smaller meals in the evening. See the anti-candida diet for a full description and reasons why.
Herpes, similar to other viruses like Epstein Barr, is capable of hiding in areas like the sinovial fluid of the joints -- particularly in the backbone area. These viruses can also hide in the intestines, breeding and spreading from there. This is why you must first concentrate on removing the candida and making your intestines healthy again."
07/06/2012: Lisa from Jax, Fl replies: "Hi Robyn, Just saw this post - I would assume you have systemic candida if your tongue stays white. Are you off of all sugar? and eating veggies and fish, chicken? Low carb? You can take everything in the world, but if you don't do the diet, it doesn't help much. Lisa"
07/06/2012: Tony replies: "I see there has been replies from various members here at EC since I last posted on this topic. Since Bill & I have been in great communication I'm only addressing his comments in this reply.
"* Hydrogen Peroxide
Stop using the Hydrogen Peroxide protocol."
I'm actually using a diluted form of H2O2 Bill. It has Aloe Vera, purified water, & stevia along with the 35% food-grade H2O2. So, 2 capfuls daily is actually a low dosage since it's so diluted. The suggested dosage of this particular product for candida treatment is 2 oz. Daily for the 1st two weeks & then increase to 6 oz. Daily for weeks 3-6. I'm on the low end dosage & have been since I started it. 2 capfuls daily are close to 3 oz. of H2O2.
You also have to keep in mind that I'm not taking the specific Lugol's brand of iodine. I've stated this quite a few times. I got another brand that still supplies 12. 5 mg iodine per capsule but it's not liquid & in powder form. I'm sticking with this 12. 5 mg dosage for at least another couple weeks. The directions state to take it with meals. Should I still take it away from meals like suggested with the Lugol's? I'm sort of scared to take it on an empty stomach with my nausea problems.
"Oil of Wild Oregano"
My more severe nausea came days before starting the Oil of Oregano. I stated that specifically in my previous reply. It's not the Oil of Oregano that started my worsening nausea problems. I got my dosage actually from a couple of replies here at EC for curing/treating herpes with it. One stated 4 drops twice daily & another stated 5 drops twice daily along with applying it directly to the base of the spine once daily which I'm doing at 3 drops daily.
I'll cut my zinc dosages back. However, my multi has 15 mg zinc so that's going to be a daily dosage of 15 mg. I'll take the 30 mg stand-alone once weekly from now on.
I've been mixing up the alkalizing remedies. Mostly though I take the lemon/baking soda remedy once in the AM. I then take a baking soda/sea salt/H20 remedy in the late afternoon. My last one of the day is just baking soda/H2O remedy.
You mention the timing of taking these. I asked you about this a couple weeks back. You told me to wait 1 hour after taking the alkalizing remedies before eating. I asked if 30 minutes would be OK. You never told me that I should be taking these remedies 1 hour after meals. It was my understanding to take all of these alkalizing remedies on an empty stomach. I guess you say this now because of my digestive issues. Looks like I need to increase the lemon/baking soda remedy to twice daily. I've only been taking this one most of the time once daily. There have been days where I've taken it twice daily but not most days. I do ALWAYS take the baking soda/H2O remedy as my last dose in the late evening.
You must have missed something from my complete supplement lists. I haven't ditched the Betaine HCL at all. I'm taking a super digestive enzyme formula that has both Betaine HCL & bromelain. Each capsule has 200 mg HCL & 50 mg bromelain along with 200 mg of pancreatin. It also has the normal digestive enzymes like papain, pepsin, papaya, & Ox Bile. I'm only taking 1 with each meal. Should I be taking more capsules with the amounts of each substance given above per dose?
I've been having some burning/heat sensation like acid reflux in my esophagus/stomach at times. I do have GERD & possible Barrett's esophagus diagnosis. Remember, I was taking bromelain & betaine HCL as stand-alone supplements at higher dosages. Maybe I've already healed my digestive tract quite a bit in doing that. Maybe I don't need higher dosages of either now. I think the digestive enzyme formula with these substances in it should be fine for my digestive problems. Just let me know if I should be taking more capsules with each meal.
Why not just go ahead & treat myself for them? I'm sure I probably have them. Parasites usually go with candida, right? I'll need to eliminate them before actually seeing real progress with the candida. Doesn't borax also kill parasites? What about the Oil of Oregano? It's also a parasite killer. I already have at least 2 parasite killers on hand right now.
My wife was officially diagnosed with parasites back last year. She said there was always a feeling of something crawling in her butt. I've never had that feeling but I do have pains coming from my butt at times. She went on the wormwood & black walnut regime & it did her NO GOOD! The parasites were right back once she stopped treatment. I think the Oil of Oregano should do the trick for parasites & I'm taking it for at least 6 weeks for herpes, parasites, candida, & any viral overload I could have as well.
I'll have to find someone locally to get a hair analysis done. I've talked to a naturopath but only over the phone. How expensive is it? I know nothing about it!
I was considering increasing the L-Lysine dosage to 1000 mg 3x daily before I purchased the Oil of Oregano. I don't see the need to do that now. As you know with my digestive issues higher doses of L-Lysine makes me even sicker. The 3-day treatment that I did earlier for herpes(Vit C/L-Lysine/Olive Leaf Extract) didn't do the trick for my herpes. Had an outbreak as soon as I finished it.
Since I now have the Oil of Oregano I really think sticking with 1000 mg of L-Lysine daily is sufficient. I don't wanna take anymore than I have to.
Eating times are difficult for me. The protocol calls for not eating after 5 PM. I'm sorry but that's impossible for me & I'm sure a lot of others. I try not to eat after 8 PM. That's just the way my schedule works out.
"Herpes, similar to other viruses like Epstein Barr, is capable of hiding in areas like the sinovial fluid of the joints -- particularly in the backbone area."
I read that the genital herpes version hides at the base of the spine. Do I need to rub the Oil of Oregano all over my entire spine or just at the base of the spine in the middle of my back? Of course, I'm also using the oil internally as well for any other viruses that might be hiding.
One other thing. This is about PH readings. When I first started the protocol my readings were 5.5-6.0 for both urine & saliva. Now, my urine readings are between 7.0-7.25 but my saliva readings are still 6.25-6.50.
Is there anyway to get the saliva readings up? Could I take a little extra baking soda with the remedies? I always use 1/2 tsp. Everytime with all 3 doses. What's a good PH target for healing? I read it's around 7.35-7.45 so even with the urine PH I'm still below where it needs. Thanks again Bill & God Bless!"
07/07/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... It is becoming apparent that your are taking some of these anti-candida protocols in an incorrect way. You also seem very keen to add more and more outside protocols to your regimen without understanding how these new protocols will further complicate and interfere with the original anti-candida protocol.
Hydrogen Peroxide interferes with lugol's iodine -- they tend to neutralize each other's beneficial effects when taken together in a daily protocol. This is a scientific fact. I described why at length in my last post. Hydrogen Peroxide, when taken at larger dose, might well be the reason you are having nausea, headache and appetite problems. So, logically, it would make sense to stop the HP for a while just to see if your nausea, headaches and loss of appetite problems improve. From what I can work out from reading your last post -- you are using 35% HP at two capfuls a day. That is a large dose.
The current problems with your digestion arises from a lack of Hydrochloric Acid in your stomach. If the stomach acid does not reach proper strength levels then main stage digestion -- secretion of the pancreatic enzymes and bicarbonate juices -- in the duodenum will not be hormonally triggered and so mainstage digestion will not happen. The betaine hydrochloride is needed to supply chloride to help the stomach manufacture hydrochloric acid to achieve proper levels of acid strength. If you don't take the betaine then duodenal digestion will not occur because there will be no bicarbonates from the pancreas to neutralize the food and acid passing into the duodenum from the stomach. So the duodenim remains an acid medium. Consequently, the bromelain you are taking may perhaps help to digest some proteins(because bromelain can work in an acid or alkaline medium) but the pancreatin enzymes that you are taking will not work(needs a neutral to alkaline medium), so all ingested carbohydrates, fats, milk etc will not be digested. This will also not help you with your GERD and Barret's problems(probably make it worse) and would also be an additional reason why you will continue to lose weight because of poor digestion.
Wild Oregano Oil
It will take alot more than just wild oil of oregano to kill the full range of parasites like bacteria, amoeba, protozoa, tapeworms, worms and liver flukes. The Hulda Clark Parasite Cleanse is a simple and well proven broadband killer protocol against all parasites. Parasites in the body can also give awful varying symptoms and there is usually a die-off or healing crisis reaction when you kill them off. The Hulda Clark website describes it well. Hulda Clark does not use Oil of Oregano in her parasite cleanse.
I would also agree with you that you probably do have parasites because you have eaten the same food as your wife who, as you have said, has parasites(which can also be contageous as well). So it therefore becomes another priority that you should get rid of the parasites as quickly as possible.
I think your fears about cancer are unfounded. When you had your check up last May, the doctors found no cancer -- So why take a harsh alternative cancer cure like maple syrup and baking soda ? I would agree with you that candida may well be a pre-cancerous condition -- therefore what should you really be focusing on curing -- Candida or non-existent Cancer?
Furthermore there is no evidence whatsoever that maple syrup and baking soda actively cures candida. Maple syrup also contains a ton of sugar. I also know the effects of driving up the body's alkalinity to a pH of 8 and these effects are not very pleasant. The side-effects from over-alkalizing by taking the maple syrup and BS cure can indeed be pretty horrific.
Alkalizing the Cells
Is there anyway to get the saliva readings up?
In my last post I mentioned that you needed to take either Sodium Bicarb with lemon/lime in water OR ACV with bicarb in water to alkalize the cells of your body. Using just the BS and water remedy will help to alkalize the intestines and help to alkalize the blood but will not alkalize the intracellular environment. Your saliva pH readings aren't so bad -- they only have to come up a bit. You should aim for a urine and saliva pH reading of about 7. So you need to take the lemon/lime or ACV and bicarb remedies at least twice a day(outside mealtimes) to raise your saliva readings.
It's also quite difficult to give an exact time to take the sodium bicarb with water remedy when all of the food has moved out of your stomach into the upper intestines. This is because it is certainly not the case that everyone's rate of digestion is the same, I normally recommend between 1/2 hr and 1 hour for taking the sodium bicarb remedy for best results. Since GERD and reflux sufferers generally seem to always have slower digestion due to their problems -- this is why I give a range of times for taking the bicarb and water remedy. And you are quite right, I have moved the taking of the bicarb and water remedy to after meals in order to help your digestion in the duodenum. This remedy, taken at these times, will also continue to alkalize your blood in the normal way as well.
If the makers of your version of supplemented iodine say that you should take their pill form of iodine with food then that is what you should do.
The pill form is enteric-coated and is usually designed to pass through the stomach into the upper intestines where it is normally digested and absorbed. Lugol's or Aqueous Iodine is a little different because it is liquid and so can cause stomach upset at higher dosage for some people due to its molecular iodine content. There are also other good enteric-coated pill forms of lugol's such as Iodoral and Iodizyme(as used by Dr Brownstein)."
07/07/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks again Bill for another very timely response! I have to say you have me confused a little now with taking the digestive substances. Let me start by taking each part of your response one topic at a time. Again, I appreciate your help & knowledge.
As I said in my previous response, my particular brand of H2O2 is diluted with Aloe Vera juice, purified water, & stevia. It's not a full strength soultion of just plain 35% food grade H2O2. That's a mute point now though since you say to not take it with iodine so I'll discontinue using it.
"Betaine Hydrochloride. "
This is the one topic that's really got me confused now. Back a while ago we discussed this same topic at length. You said that I needed to take both HCL & some type of digestive aid like papaya or bromelain or pancreatin. We've actually discussed a lot of things! I've stated that my digestive enzyme formula contains both HCL & bromelain. You seem to think from my posts that I've discontinued them both.
Yes, recently I did stop the stand-alone HCL & bromelain supplements since I have a digestive enzyme formula that has them both. I gave you the amount of each substance contained in one capsule. By taking 3 capsules total per day of the digestive formula this has a total amount of HCL daily at 600 mg & 150 mg of bromelain.
Are you saying that I still need to take them as stand-alone supplements at higher doses? The digestive formula contains pancreatin so I can't avoid the pancreatin. You seem to be saying the pancreatin is basically useless for my digestive situation but you mentioned me needing it or some equivalent type of aid back a while ago. I have to say this can be a bit confusing. Just let me know if I should continue them(HCL, bromelain) as stand-alone supplements because I'll certainly take your advice. I'm sure once I get my digestive issues under more control then my candida problems will start to get drastically better.
"Wild Oregano Oil"
Well, I already knew about Dr. Clark & her great work but I'm just beat & spent out on supplements for a while. I know this type of treatment(natural) is much safer than prescription drugs & traditional medicine. However, I've spent quite a bit on this whole candida protocol already.
Add the supplements & anti-candida diet foods then it's not cheap. Her parasite treatment does use quite a bit of stuff & can last for a good while too. I guess I'll have to consider the benefits compared to the cost. I may not ever get over this candida problem if I don't treat myself for parasites.
Is there any cheaper & beneficial alternatives for killing off parasites since you say the Oil of Oregano won't do the complete trick? What's your opinion on the Humaworm parasite cleanse? It seems like an easier option because everything comes together in one package.
Well, I may be over-reacting here to possibly having cancer. You have to keep in mind that many people go undiagnosed with cancer too. The way I've felt over the past few months it's hard to believe I don't have cancer. It's been that bad! Now, with the severe die-off/detox symptoms then you really start to think cancer has been missed.
Only God truly knows & that's who I turn this diagnosis over to. He's the greatest physician anyhow! I'm at peace with whatever the health situation is right now. It may not seem that way with all of my questions & concerns. I'm just trying to treat myself naturally & in the right way. I can't do this without your help & knowledge as well.
BTW, my checkup in May was from my PCP. The bloodwork did all come back normal. This is typical for a candida sufferer. That also doesn't mean through bloodwork there's no cancer either. Now, there are warning signs from bloodwork but it's not a cancer screening. I've had quite a few CT scans as well & there's been no cancer found but I still wonder if something hasn't been missed. I'll leave it to God & continue my candida treatment.
"Alkalizing the Cells "
I'll do the lemon/baking soda remedy twice daily everday now away from food. I hadn't been doing it twice daily on a regular basis. I'll use my baking soda/sea salt/H2O remedy in the late evening 1 hour after my evening meal. BTW, I'm taking sea salt(1/2 tsp. ) with the BS/H2O dose for both heavy metal detox & for reducing the swelling of lymph nodes in my neck. The lymph nodes in my neck will go down temporarily but always swell back up.
They've not been back to normal size since this sickness started back in February. My swallowing problems have also not come back to normal. I don't have problems swallowing food or liquids though. It's simply with saliva & when I swallow it feels like the saliva is going over a hump/bump at my thryroid/esophagus. I assume this is due to inadequate thyroid function from candida even though my specific thyroid function tests were all normal. Is this correct thinking?
My particular brand of iodine isn't enteric coated so it's not going to bypass stomach acid. It's in the standard capsule form. This may not be good but the directions do state to take with food. I'm currently on 12. 5 mg daily & this can't be divided into doses because it's powder(capsule) form unlike liquid iodine. I will gradually increase the iodine dosage until I get to 50 mg at some point.
I plan on jumping to 25 mg daily(two doses) within the next 2 weeks. I realize how important iodine can be in the treatment of candida so I want to get the dosage up if possible. Do you think 12. 5 mg daily is of any benefit? I know the protocol calls for at least 50 mg. I just can't jump to that dosage with my die-off/detox symptoms.
BTW, there is something positive I've noticed lately. My breathing(sinuses) have gotten tremendously better. I've had sinus problems off & on for a few years. I'm getting tons of mucus/snot out of my nose now. This is a good sign for sure. I have mucus coming from not only my stool but now from my nose as well. It's normal(clear) color though & not an off color like you see with a typical sinus infection.
I've also made a recent switch in the form of magnesium consumption. I was taking magnesium oxide. I purchased some magnesium chloride taking your advice from the candida protocol. I didn't realize the health benefits of magnesium. As a matter of fact, a lot of holistic/naturopathic doctors rank magnesium behind only iodine for health benefits/treatment. Baking soda ranks 3rd from most alternative doctors. No wonder you list all 3 of these substances in the candida treatment protocol. Thanks again Bill for your time & have a great day. God Bless you & everything you provide here at EC."
07/08/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... I'm sorry if I've confused you with some of my long explanations. I'll try to keep it shorter and expalin it in a different way:
The main reasons why you need to increase you stomach acid levels are because:
- * Low stomach acid inhibits main stage duodenal digestion
- * Low stomach acid allows bacteria, fungus etc to infect the stomach and intestine
- * Low stomach acid actually encourages the spread of candida and other problems up into the esophageal region(Barret's, esophagitis)
- * Low stomach acid is the main cause of your GERD reflux problems
- * Low stomach acid acidifies the upper intestines because the pancreatic juices will not be triggered to neutralize the stomach acid chyme in the duodenum as it should do.
- * Low stomach acid causes inefficient digestion and malabsorption of nutrients from food with consequent loss of weight
I hope these reasons are clearer for you now. This is why you need to take the betaine hydrochloride -- to raise your stomach acid to correct levels for proper food digestion and also to supply chloride so that your stomach can heal itself and produce more of its own stomach acid at the proper strength.
It doesn't really matter whether you increase the betaine hydrochloride tablets or the super digestive enzymes (which contains betaine) to increase your stomach acid levels but I suspect that taking just the betaine tablets will be a little cheaper for you.
Iodine And Magnesium.
You're right, these are my favourites along with the BS protocols. I take them every day because all diets lack magnesium and iodine and 90% of what we eat now is too acidic.
The reason your mucus levels are improving is because of the Iodine which is a mucolytic. It loosens and reduces the mucus in the nose, lungs and intestines and further helps to protect these regions from pathogen invasion.
Magnesium Chloride is another one that has a hundred benefits for the body. Magnesium Oxide is a poor form of magnesium to supplement because it is insoluble and therefore not absorbed into the body very well. Magnesium Chloride crystals are by far the best form to supplement.
You can also make your own Magnesium Oil (60% Magnesium Chloride and 40% water). You can then take magnesium oil as drops -- ten drops twice a day in water with or before meals as a drink OR just rub the magnesium oil along the crook of both arms for a large but safe transdermal dose that wont cause any problems in the intestines Or simply add a couple of cups of magnesium chloride into your bath water along with a few cups of sodium bicarbonate for similar transdermal absorbtion through the skin.
I must finally add that, because of your probable parasite problem -- the priorities are now that you must get rid of the parasites as well as get rid of the candida. If you are not going to take the Hulda Clark Parasite Cleanse(which gets rid of all forms of parasites) then I'm afraid that it is pointless taking any parasite remover until you've know exactly what parasites you have inside you. So get yourself checked for parasites. I'm not recommending Humaworm because this product will only get rid of worms and probably will not get rid of other bacterial, amoebic or protozoal parasites forms and will not have much effect against liver flukes which can even get into your liver and blood."
07/08/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, USA replies: "Thanks again Bill for another fast reply back to me! Now, I do understand it better now. I think what I'll do is just take 1 capsule of the stand-alone HCL supplement(500 mg) to go along with the digestive enzyme formula at each meal. This way I'll get a total of 700 mg HCL per dose & 2100 mg total per day. I still have quite a few capsules left of the stand-alone HCL.
"Iodine And Magnesium."
You mean at the low dosage of 12.5 mg of iodine I'm getting this much benefit with the excess mucus? I haven't been on this dosage too long either. Remember, I was taking a low concentration form of liquid iodine up until about 10-12 days ago when I went to the powder form at 12.5 mg each capsule. Maybe the one dose weekly of MoM is helping with the mucus as well.
I'm calling this week to get an appt. To get a hair analysis & parasite check. This is the same woman I've talked to over the phone a few times in regards to my candida situation. Once I get these tests done I'll report back with the results. I'm curious about whether I have parasites but I probably do. My nutrients are probably higher now because of the supplements I've been taking. I'd say I still have some heavy metals but getting better. Thanks again Bill & God Bless!"
06/22/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa: "Thanks Heather for the reply!
This brings me to a question I have for all believers! People of FAITH are always supposed to leave all things in God's hands. Does that mean we don't take any type of treatments for sickness & leave it all up to the higher up? This is not directed straight at you but in general for people of faith.
I'm a believer in God for sure! I also believe in using natural/alternative methods of treatment for sickness/health. Is that wrong in God's eyes? We are supposed to leave the healing up to him, right? I've thought about & even asked God to let me know if I need to stop ALL of this treatment & leave it totally up to him.
Our days here on earth are numbered through him anyhow. We don't know when our time will come but he certainly does. This is a very debatable topic for people of faith. God also does his work through the traditional doctors for our healing but I don't believe in taking prescription meds or any type of traditional treatments for health. I think traditional medical treatment kills way more people than handling it through faith & natural means.
You tell me to relax & not think about my sickness! Well, that's one of those easier said than done deals. I do need to stop thinking about it so much but I don't have a single day that goes by without feeling bad. I'm going to do my best through prayer & faith to allow God to handle this situation. Of course, I'm still going to stay on the candida protocol in the meantime. I'll post back in a few days with my progress. Thanks!"Replies
06/22/2012: Robyn from Sydney, Aust replies: "I have a similar sort of question. Various brain retraining programmes or NLP is supposed to be curing those afflicted with cfs, mcs or fms. This sort of suggests there is no chemical or mechanical reason for our woes and incredible suffering. If only we could get our brain off where it is stuck it would all go away. No need for any of these treatments suggested here. Any comments."
06/22/2012: Forgetmenotblue from Green Bay, Wi/usa replies: "Hi Tony, that is a great question... That of course, only God could answer perfectly!
Here is my take: Although God has the ability to heal us, whether or not He acts upon that is a direct result of His divine will and knowledge. There are many people of faith who deal with VERY difficult physical circumstances. And despite their faith, their prayers, and the prayers of others, their circumstance does not change or even gets worse.
I personally don't think we have to wait for a natural miracle from God unless we feel prompted by the Holy Spirit to wait for one. God often leads us away from miracles and instead assists us toward whatever journey or answer He has for us--be that related to our career, our family, or our health.
That being said, prayer is a powerful thing--regardless if you are granted your heart's desires or not. And as long as you trust God's judgement, things will never seem completely hopeless."
06/23/2012: Heather from Leicester replies: "Hi Tony, sorry I probably didn't explain myself properly. I just meant that there are certain complimentary therapies like Reiki, visualisation , yoga, meditation, prayer that can be used inconjunction to whatever medicine you are taking. The idea is to speed up your healing and often this is achieved when you relax more. Sometimes even clearing out your clutter can help you. Some people are helped by writing a daily gratitude diary where they write down a few things each day that they are thankful for. Sometimes I think it's not so much about the challenges we face in our life but more the way we handle them that counts."
06/25/2012: Roses from In So. Cal., Cal. replies: "I think you should seek God regarding your situation and just seek Him. You should also continue with your treatment and whatever treatment will be effective to you. God will guide you, and he should be your focus not your sickness."
06/26/2012: Jen from Bozeman, Mt, Us replies: "I believe that God has given us all of the tools we need to stay healthy and vibrant. We do not need to manipulate and make synthetic forms of them with perscriptions. There is a cure for every illness on this earth you just need to ask his guidence and listen and you will know. God's Pharmacy is a great example of what I mean.
Check it out: http://www.manataka.org/page1429.html
Look at the different fruits and veggies placed on this earth. They are usually helpful for whatever they look similar too. Carrot's cut in half and they look like an iris in your eye. Avocado's and pears look like a womb etc....
If it was myself going through what you are with this treatment, I would pray that God gives you patience and understanding and that everyone around you will have the same. I know that when I prayed for help when I first became ill I found this site and I have felt complete comfort in knowing that God has pointed me in EC's direction for a reason."
06/20/2012: Subh from Broxbourne, Hertfordshire, Uk: "Dear Ted, I'm a mother of a 4 yrs old son. And his health is a constant worry to me. below is a detailed sketch about his health.
He was born 14 days post-term, thru a Csection. I did breast feed him. But on day 3 he developed oral thrush, n passed it on to me. So we kept on re-infecting eachother many times. We both were given antifungals and every treatment available, untill we both got used to the thrush.
As a baby [7months old] he constantly had cold-cough n when travelled to India, he developed severe rota-virus infection [leading to electrolyte imbalance] n multiple episodes of colds n coughs. for which he was put on inhalers n steriods.
After returning from India, he had recurrent chest infections, and had antibiotics every month, for 2 1/2 yrs, continuously!
His cough hasnt stopped, now docs tell us that he could have childhood asthma. so now hez put on steriod inhalers, 100 mcg/2 times a day.
He also has hey fever[his father has it too]. The sudden long mid-nite bouts of cough still continues. So he has dark circles around eyes. These coughs are also there if hez running or doing some physical activity.
My son has two bony growths on both legs, around ankles on the outer sides. Allthough he walks ok. He complains of pains on the bone jsut below his knees, both the legs. The area is warm to touch compared to other part of his leg. also complaints of pain around ankle.
Hez a sharp bright kids, although he has occasional blank periods, where I think he doenst understand whats being said/told.
Hez a choosy eater. Mostly love sweet n chocolaty stuff.
I have gotten so worried now. I want to treat him. How cud a new born baby have thrush? All thats going on in his body can it be reverted?Â I cant see my child suffereing anymore...... Jsut want him to be a normal child. What can I do..... Plz help me. I'm will to try everything with the hope that he gets better. I really hope that you read this mail n answer.
God bless you Abundantly"Replies
06/21/2012: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA replies: "Hi Subh, It sounds very much to me that your son was born with candida which he most likely contracted from you. This is not unusual in this day and age due to the past three generations of processed foods, fast foods and lots of white flour. I would highly encourage you to look into Body Ecology which you can find on the internet. This site has a lot of information that could help educate you on this subject. Donna Gates is one of the top authorites who also works with many families of autistic children turning them around through cleaning up their diet and educating the families. Her specialty is helping children with this issue.
This is her other site dedicated to helping children with candida: http://www.bedrokcommunity.org/ You will find a lot of help and support at this site. This woman is impassioned about helping eradicate this insidious problem, traveling the world to help others.
Everything you are describing regarding your son is classic of children who have chronic candida. When you begin to address this issue you will see much of what you are describing fall away. I hope this information helps you. The best to you, Lisa"
06/25/2012: Subh from Broxbourne, Hertfordshire, Uk replies: "Thanks Lisa. M reading the site. Its quite interesting."
06/15/2012: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa: "Hi Tony, I have been following all your posts and thought I would give you some suggestions. One suggestion would be to have a look at Donna Gates' work. She is one of the top authorities on candida and ridding it. I have heard her speak four times and she is quite impressive with her knowledge. I have read both of her books as well which you might benefit from "The Body Ecology Diet"book where you will find support through your diet for ridding candida and then restoring your body's health. She also has a website which has lots of articles pertinent to intestinal health and candida which are readily accessible. Also, lots of recipes on the site too which are simple and delicious. You might find it interesting to know that she is the sole person instrumental in bringing stevia here to the U.S. She also talks about the importance of fermented foods but it's important if there is a candida issue, to the timing of when you begin adding them in. Fermented foods are loaded with good bacteria and far more reliable than pill form probiotics. There are instructional videos she has made on her site on making your own fermented foods.
As for far infrared saunas, you might want to check out the Clearlight far infrared saunas because they are the only ones that don't emit EMFs- healwithheat.com/ is their website. If you choose to invest in one make sure it doesn't emit EMFs. That would only be adding another issue! I take a far infrared sauna twice a week to remove any heavy metals, reduce inflammation and help heal my body. They really are amazing. Also, know that far infrared heat is far more effective in many ways vs. Traditional saunas. Anyway, you can read all about them and the benefits on the site.
Congratulations on your path you're taking towards restoring your health! Lisa"Replies
06/15/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Hello Lisa from CA!
Believe it or not, today I've been reading lots of stuff from the website of Donna Gates. There is tons of information & especially on candida. I don't think I'll be investing in any of the products for sale from the site though! I have pretty much what I need from the protocol provided by Ted & Bill. I may consider some of the probiotic drinks at a later date. I actually eat quite a bit of fermented sauerkraut right now. I just added this fermented food to my diet back a couple weeks ago. I try to eat 1 serving daily or every other day.
There is some stuff from her site that I'll implement into my program. Food combining is something that I'll definitely be introducing into my diet plan. I'm not used to eating certain food combinations but this practice makes a lot of sense for optimal health. I've always eaten fruits alone but the other food groups I usually combine together. That's going to change! I think I'm gonna go ahead & implement the food combining while I'm on the candida protocol. I'm gonna make my own chart or use one online. Thanks & God Bless!"
06/16/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... I also had dizzyness, lightheadedness and arrythmia problems when I had candida. I got rid of these problems by taking higher dose magnesium citrate -- around 600 mgs twice a day.
This dizziness problem can also be caused by other factors too -- such as low blood pressure which can be relieved by taking sea salt with water once or twice a day. Unfortunately I have no idea whether you have normal, low or high blood pressure.
Regarding your question concerning how will you know when you are well again -- Since doctors are so poor at diagnosing and treating candida, this will depend on how much better you are actually feeling. Your best bet would be to consult with a naturopath to determine your candida status and wellness. Usually, people who recover from candida know when they are healthy again because most of their associated problems disappear, they have much more energy and they are less depressed and happier etc. There is also a huge difference in physical and mental health when you compare how you felt when you had systemic candida and when you are eventually cured."
06/16/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, USA replies: "Thanks for yet another reply back to me Bill!
"I also had dizzyness, lightheadedness and arrythmia problems when I had candida. I got rid of these problems by taking higher dose magnesium citrate -- around 600 mgs twice a day."
I'm taking a total of 1000 mg of magnesium daily including my multi-vitamin. Does it matter which form of magnesium? My multi isn't the same form of magnesium as the stand-alone supplement. The stand-alone (250 mg per tablet) is a chelated form of magnesium oxide. I hope the form of magnesium doesn't matter.
"This dizziness problem can also be caused by other factors too -- such as low blood pressure which can be relieved by taking sea salt with water once or twice a day. Unfortunately I have no idea whether you have normal, low or high blood pressure."
I was diagnosed with high blood pressure when in the hospital. I definitely was suffering from hypertension. I've now gotten my blood pressure under control with the candida program along with using cayenne pepper & ACV. I think the higher dosages of niacin(500 mg 3x daily) & magnesium(1000 mg daily) might also be helping with blood pressure. My readings are now consistently at 110-120/70-85.
I was getting consistent readings at 140-150 /90-100 . That was over 3 weeks ago. Blood pressure shouldn't be an issue here with the dizziness & lightheadness. I've actually had these two symptoms dating back to April when I was in the hospital. They've just gotten a little worse in recent days. I think it's still part of the candida overgrowth. Maybe it's worsened in recent days because of part of the healing crisis maybe?
"Regarding your question concerning how will you know when you are well again -- Since doctors are so poor at diagnosing and treating candida, this will depend on how much better you are actually feeling. Your best bet would be to consult with a naturopath to determine your candida status and wellness. Usually, people who recover from candida know when they are healthy again because most of their associated problems disappear, they have much more energy and they are less depressed and happier etc. There is also a huge difference in physical and mental health when you compare how you felt when you had systemic candida and when you are eventually cured."
I've checked around locally & do have a select few naturopaths/alternative medicine people. Most only deal with acupuncture though. They also do the herbal treatments as well. I talked to one of them over the phone. I told her about you & your candida protocol. She too thinks from what I told her that I have a candida overgrowth problem & to stick with what program you provided me but go at my own pace.
It's $95 just for an herbal consultation but she said she would even use some of the same things you have kindly provided me to use in the treatment. She even said baking soda would be a part in her treatment regime as well. She said to try & stick with what I'm doing but like you & several others have stated it's not gonna be easy. I know for sure my depression & anxiety got bad pretty quickly back in early February.
I went from being able to be around my son & wife to suddenly not being able to stand being around anybody. The severe physical part & the onset of the real mental part came about just a couple days after using that darn ol' tongue scraper for my white coated tongue! A bright idea from my wife huh? It would have came about sooner or later anyhow. Candida overgrowth was already present in my intestines(remember my sample endoscopy report I gave ya?) so it was only a matter of time before it showed up prominently with more noticeable symptoms.
I definitely am suffering both physically & mentally from candida. I never had any serious mental signs/issues in the past until this hit me like a ton of bricks back in February. It had been mostly physical symptoms off & on until then even though I have been under tremendous stress in recent years. Thanks again for your time Bill!"
06/18/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Hello again Bill! This reply is directed towards Bill but others with candida knowledge can reply back as well.
Yesterday, I took my weekly dose of Milk of Magnesia. I've been doing this weekly for about 4 weeks now. I take around a 3 tbsp. dose one day each week for help in getting rid of biofilms from the intestines.
When I took yesterday's dosage I had 3 bowel movements the rest of the day. All 3 were pretty much diarrhea. I noticed a bunch of what looked like a clear jelly-like substance floating on top with each stool. They were puddled together in about 2 inch patches in the toilet.
After reading more about mucus & candida die-off, I believe these puddles of substances are a combination of mucus & the dead candida. I had seen a small amount of this similar-looking stuff in the tiolet before but not this much. This all came about after taking the MoM. Wonder why this hadn't happened before with the MoM?
Maybe it's just taking time to get rid of the biofilms? I have major intestinal issues & I've been taking digestive enzymes along with higher dosages of bromelain. I think all of this treatment for my digestion issues along with the candida protocol is now taking effect with the mucus/dead yeast showing up from stools. Does anybody have an opinion? I'm now in my 6th week of the candida protocol but only in my 3rd week for higher doses of digestive treatment. Thanks & God Bless!"
06/18/2012: Heather from Leicester replies: "Hi Tony, find someone to do some reiki sessions on you, you will be amazed at how it accelerates your healing and how more relaxed you feel, Heather x"
06/18/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Hi Heather from Leicester! Never heard of that reiki thing before! I do use EFT(Effective Freedom Technique) as a source of healing for both physical & mental issues. The problem with using EFT is sticking with it. Sometimes, you don't get the results you want fast enough. Kind of like using this candida protocol. It takes time & A LOT OF PATIENCE!
I'm still suffering from die-off symptoms for sure. This coming in my 6th week of candida treatment. Like Bill states from his protocol, the amount of time for die-off/improvement is different for each individual.
It depends on how bad & how long you've been suffering from a candida problem. I just know this is very tough to deal with! I'm trying to hang in there through faith as well but that's being tested to the max for me. Thanks for the reply & God Bless!"
06/19/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Man, this is getting even tougher on me & my family. For the past few days, I've been seriously grouchy/hateful. I've become even more depressed as well. I believe this is just part of the detox process. At least, I'm praying that's the case!
The least thing makes me really grouchy & I seem to cry off & on all day long. Until I got really sick back in February, I was NEVER & I mean NEVER a hateful person! I could get along with anybody but that's turned for the worse!
I'm just praying this is a part of the healing/detox process from my body. I'm taking & doing sooooooo many things from the candida protocol. It really makes you wonder if you're putting too much stuff into your body. Bill has told me it's not though! The protocol is needed to surely get rid of candida overgrowth.
I take supplements from as many as 10 different bottles at a time. That doesn't include the alkalizing liquid remedies provided here at EC nor the borax liquid remedy. It seems that I'm constantly taking something or trying to keep an empty stomach to take certain supplements & remedies. This is the TOUGHEST battle I've ever faced personally.
My personal health crisis dates back to February but I had been accumulating fungus in my entire body for quite some time. I just never knew what my health problems were related to.
Why do you see several websites on health stating that a white-coated tongue is perfectly normal? That's why I didn't think about having a candida overgrowth for the longest time. My confirmation came when using a tongue scraper & getting deathly sick a few days later. Just as both Ted & Bill have stated, it's not normal to have a white-coated tongue. It's a sign of problems from the gut!
Mine started years ago but gradually got worse over time. It took about 16 years before the worst came about. It probably would have been delayed further if I hadn't used the tongue scraper but sooner or later it would have came to a head. All of these candida problems & many other health problems start from the gut anyhow! Thanks!"
06/19/2012: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi Tony, First, I want to congratulate you on taking the steps to restoring your health. That is not always an easy task. I went raw a couple of years ago for 3 months and eliminated the pain that coursed through my body. Sometimes, we just have to make some very extreme choices to find our way back to health since it seems that Western medicine doesn't really have the answers, only the drugs to medicate people with which only seem to compound problems and lead to more.
One thing to remember, if the detox gets to be too much and happening too fast, you can always slow it down by backing off some of the remedies. I know you just want to power through and get it all over with but, it seems that you are really dealing with a lot of emotion coming up and your family is dealing with it as well. Did you know that anger is stored in the liver? And of course, the liver is really getting cleaned up when detoxing. I always forewarn friends that I'm helping through detox to be prepared for that little monster and take you completely by surprise!
And as for what you've found on the internet regarding the white tongue being normal- well, that's what mainstream knowledge is! Ignorance. Even the western doctors will say things like, it's normal not to have bowel movements for a couple of days, if that is your pattern! It's so sad the lack of healing that is imparted from so much of the medical world. I've had friends that have told me that drs. have told them their diet has nothing to do with their illness. So, now you have reached the real learning as you go through your own journey. Tim, Oscar, Bill, myself... it has been hard earned knowledge we are happy to share because we've been there ourselves!
Anyway, keep going and know you are going to be great! There are many of us who understand this path and would encourage you. Blessings to you, Lisa"
06/20/2012: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe replies: "Lisa, I've been following your posts for a couple of years now, and it's been very inspiring. Would you care to share what you are doing these days to maintain and enhance your health? Diet, supplements, lifestyle and/or anything else."
06/20/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "To mmsg from Somewhere:
Lisa made a reply back to my post on 06-15-12. This has some of the things she used & some other good information. Just go back to June 15 & read her reply.
Thanks again to Lisa for another reply as well. I did slow down on the supplements for a short period of time. I even cut a few completely out for a few days. I've added those back now though! I'm at full force with the protocol plus some extra stuff Bill suggested.
I didn't know the anger thingy about the liver. I did know that the prostate stores a lot of stress in men. I'm not really angry though! It's more just quick irritability & sadness(crying spells) along with worsening depression. I was diagnosed with 'fatty liver' back earlier this year though. I'm taking all of the liver support nutrients except for the Chanca Piedra. I take milk thistle, dandelion, alpha lopoic acid, & selenium. All at the recommended dosages.
The only other part of the protocol I'm not using is the Methylene Blue which is really optional like some of the others. I do take the iodine, H202, borax, & alkalizing remedies for attacking & killing the candida. The diet is the toughest part to stick with. I can handle the diet part OK now but the protocol itself & its die-off symptoms are the absolute TOUGHEST! Thanks for the support & God Bless!"
06/21/2012: Citygirl27 from Richardson, Tx, Usa replies: "Hi Tony, keep the faith. I think the frustration might be that you are putting so much strength and effort into the EarthClinic protocols that maybe your family and others are feeling "second best" to these efforts? Don't know bc I am not there with you but just try to be positive with everyone and tell them how great this is improving your health. Remember, thoughts have energy too, and negative thoughts are damaging...."
06/21/2012: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi Mmsg, Actually, I have tried so many things on EC, many fueled by my search of an answer to my hip pain. After seven years of chronic hip pain, I finally made the decision to have stem cell therapy. Also, something I was made aware of its availability by a very short post here on EC! I'm not sure if you saw that post back in March. Within 3 days, I was walking again and even ziplined through the rainforest in Ecuador where I had my therapy.
I was told that the stem cells would continue to do their work over 6 months and sure enough, I have seen other wonderful changes. For instance, I was born with an incredibly weak bladder that has plagued me my entire life, annoying to say the least! Well, since I've lived with this and not known anything otherwise, I have managed to just adjust to the inconveniences of this. Also, since my focus was for my hips, was it ever a surprise, one month after my treatment that literally, overnight, my bladder was healed and I, for the first time am experiencing what most people take for granted- a normal, functioning bladder! My skin has changed and my hair has thickened back to what it used to be like. The only change I haven't seen was that my hair remains black with gray. My hip continues to improve though I can't say it's 100%. Still to be able to walk again and stand up without pain has been miraculous.
Beyond that, I have learned that one of the most beneficial things there is for us to do is continually detox. Every 6 months I attend the Longevity Now Conference and hear some of the most cutting edge information from drs. At the forefront, scientists and incredibly knowledgeable people on healing, nutrition and alternatives. I have learned so much! Lately, I use sodium thiosulfate and methylene blue alternatively every week or so which I learned from Bill here on EC, I use Bob Beck's silver pulser, I wear an EMF protecter, I have earthing pads for my computer and in my bed and I take far infrared saunas once to twice weekly. They are awesome! I use a ceragem jade massage bed that can be used for all sorts of ailments every few days and I will also get on a turbosonic machine which is based in sound vibration and used by the astronauts for bone density and muscle mass.
As for diet, I tell people, "Eat close to the earth. " I try my best to eat organic, meat is grass-fed and eggs are from pastured chickens and seafood is only from Whole Foods. I still drink fresh juices but not daily anymore and eat fermented foods and drinks to keep the healthy flora based in Donna Gates work.
As for supplements, I am back to regularly using Chinese herbs after hearing Ron Teeguarden at the last couple of conferences on the benefits. Wow! Do they make a difference! I can feel it in my energy, my voice, my sleep, my libido, my clarity. I also use ______ vitamin C which has come highly recommended.
My life is full and filled with passion and joy. My spiritual journey is always at the forefront. I teach ballet daily, love sharing my life with my 5 kids and husband, and always look forward to traveling. I work to help others find health through nutrition as well.
That's about the summation of it all. Thanks for your interest. I hope you are doing well. I watch for your posts as well! Live a great life! Lisa"
06/21/2012: Heather from Leicester replies: "Hi Tony, I think you will be good at visualising - visualise- you are the train driver- your body is the locomotive your illness is a spare carriage imagine unhooking that carriage and moving forward with out it. Or you could see the illness as something trailing behind you attached with a thin cord to you so imagine cutting that cord with a sharp pair of scissors and feel the relief, leave it behind. You are in charge.
Focus on the solution not the problem, go outside in the fresh air. You could try a mantra a bit like a prayer, something like I am getting healthier every day and repeat it constantly so it becomes your main focus. The idea is that you need to let go and let god. Lose your grip on the illness by relaxing and your healing will speed up. Stop talking about your illness, try and ignore it for a week then come back here and let us know how better you are feeling. Keep the faith x"
06/13/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa: "This question is for Bill again! Bill, do the dead yeast appear in bowel movements? I know that yeast are being killed inside my body by the protocol. How do I tell though? Will they show up in my stools? If so, what do they look like? Thanks again Bill!"Replies
06/13/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... The stools of people with candida can vary tremenduously. In some cases -- with people who have candida -- they will have diarrhea and in other cases they will have constipation. This variation depends one what other bacteria are also associated with the candda and which are causing their own separate raft of symptoms and problems in the body. Because of the variation, this makes it very difficult to visually confirm whether you have dead candida yeast or fungus in your stool. Suffice to say that both iodine and borax -- both of which you are supplementing -- are well-known candida or fungal killers."
06/13/2012: Tracy from Casper, Wyoming/ united States: "Hi Tony~ I have a plethora of digestive and colon issues. When a doctor tells you there is nothing else you can do, you need to reach out and find what works for you. I was even at the point of gastice sleeve surgery, but was turned down because I don't weigh enough. LOL~Anyway, I believe that all diseases begin in the colon. I have done hydrocolon therapy or color flushing. This is absolutely awesome. Please look it up. While you are detoxing your body, you are not going to feel well. Try 1 cup of epsom salts and 1/2 cup of baking soda in a bath. This will help release the toxins. Good luck & God Bless~Tracy"Replies
06/15/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Hi Karina from Munich:
Thanks for your reply. I've already implemented several of your suggestions into my treatment regime. I don't think I'll go with the hydrocolon therapy though. I'm using both psyllium husks & flaxseeds to help with cleaning out the colon. I'm going 2-3 times daily with soft stools so I think it's working pretty well.
Sugar & dairy has been a big concern for me from the beginning of treatment. I had already cut sugar mostly out of my diet. I had turned to using stevia about 4 years ago. The problem is with organic sugar products. I never buy anything with 'added' sugars though. I only use stevia to sweeten things.
Dairy is another real problem. Keep in mind, I only eat grass-fed raw cheese dairy. Even that with a candida problem is bad for ya! It's healthy for you if you are not suffering from a particular health issue like candida.
Red meat has also been somewhat of a problem. Again, I eat only 100% grass-fed beef. It's the iron in the meat that's the problem for a candida sufferer. I'm eating more & more organic chicken & turkey along with wild caught fish.
One thing you mention that I have come across reading about recently. It's the food combining. That's something I've never really considered in the past. I've only read posts about some people doing this to help with their digestion. I've not read up on how to do the food combining. I will see what I can find out about Natalia Rose in regards to food combining. This would probably help me out a lot for the candida treatment & future eating habits once I finally get over this yeast problem.
Enemas is something that I've also NEVER tried. I'm considering those as well. My wife & I have been in discussion about possibly buying an infrared sauna. Dr. Mercola sells these from his website. Sweating out toxins through the skin from a sauna is a great way to detox.
I've only been able to do minimal exercise(10-15 minutes) daily & that's just doing situps, pushups, bouncing on an exercise ball, & some light weight-lifting all done from home. I've not felt like doing a 20-30 minute daily exercise routine like jogging/running outdoors. I hope to feel like doing more in the days & weeks ahead.
I've been taking probiotics for a good while now. I recently bought a digestive formula that has probiotics to go along with all the major digestive enzymes including pancreatin & betaine HCL. It even has Ox Bile as well. I'm also taking a separate bromelain supplement with each meal.
I've ordered a standalone betaine HCL supplement online. So, Im doing all I can to get the digestive tract to heal. I have major digestive issues with excess mucus & gastritis to go along with a diagnosis of GERD. 80%-90% of our health problems start from the digestive tract.
BTW, I'm using the full candida protocol provided by Bill/Ted & even using some extra stuff as well to help with my specific health situation. Bill & Ted are great here at EC. I'd take their advice over any traditional medical doctor's advice anyday. I've already been through that long enough! I got worse & was even hospitalized. I turned to natural treatment like I always have in the past. Thanks & God Bless!"
06/05/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa: "Hello again Bill! I would like for you to address this nutrient avoidance thing for me. We're supposed to avoid sugar, calcium, & iron while on the candida protocol. However, we're supposed to eat lots of veggies especially green leafy veggies. Green leafy veggies are a pretty good source of calcium.
Avoiding sugar is pretty self-explanatory. Also, even white meats are a source of iron. I checked my package of free range organic chicken & it has 6% DV of iron per 4 oz. Serving. This is also the same for my organic turkey & BPA free cans of wild caught salmon & tuna. The organic grass fed beef actually has a lower iron content(by just a little) than both my chicken & turkey. There is iron in all of these meats so what are we supposed to do? Calcium is calcium like you said & sugar is sugar. Iron is also iron!
I need the protein from meats because of the digestion issues for me. I just don't quite understand this nutrient avoidance thing when you look at it the way I just explained & what you see posted for anti-candida diets. It seems almost impossible to keep away from certain nutrients unless we avoid an entire range of foods from a particular category.
Examples are all of these meats having iron & all of these leafy greens having calcium. I do love greens especially broccoli & kale greens. Please elaborate further on this for me! It's just not making a lot of sense to me for this candida diet. Thanks again!"Replies
06/06/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... You seem to be having a problem in understanding why eating too much iron from red meat is bad for you when you have candida. In the anti-candida diet, it is fully recognized that the body needs both protein and iron. But the diet advises small amounts of protein(and iron) only -- small amounts of chicken and white fish -- due to the dangers of excess iron in the diet.
To confirm the dangers of too much iron in the diet here is some actual candida research which is interesting:
The very first line of this research abstract states the following:
"High-affinity iron uptake by a ferrous permease in the opportunistic pathogen Candida albicans is required for virulence."
Additionally, red meat has a high concentration of the transferrin protein which has an affinity for and happily binds to heme iron which the candida loves. Here is the complicated research explanation:
Excess levels of transferrin are also not good for health anyway:
To quote from this research:
"Because ingestion of dietary iron may contribute to iron overload in persons with elevated transferrin saturation, we investigated the relationship between elevated transferrin saturation, ingestion of dietary iron and red meat, and mortality."
To quote from the results:
"Unadjusted analyses indicated that those who had a high transferrin saturation and reported high dietary iron or red meat consumption had an increased mortality risk"
These are all reasons why only chicken and fish(white meat) are advised in the anti-candida diet and not red meat.
Many anti-candida protocols also use Lactoferrin to remove and neutralize iron from food in the gut. Lactoferrin converts iron to a non-absorbable form in the gut during digestion, thus iron uptake is restricted both for the candida and for the body. I think that this is quite dangerous, because it is possible that, if too much Lactoferrin is supplemented, then not only will it restrict uptake by the candida, it might also block too much iron and prevent the iron needed to be absorbed by the body to help manufacture blood -- causing anemia. So it's far better, safer and easier to do this by restricting the iron using diet."
06/03/2012: Carolyn from Sumner, Ms Usa: "I have been diagnosed with rosacea caused by yeast. I have red bumps on my forehead, patches on my cheeks and my face itches ALL the time. I have had recurring vaginal yeast infections. I'm washing my face with sulfer cream. Metrogel doesn't seem to work as well as Tea Tree Oil. In the AM bumps are gone but they are back in the PM. I think I'm covered up with yeast and I have it inside my body. Help!!!!"Replies
06/04/2012: Timh from Louisville, Ky, Usa replies: "Carolyn, first check out the E.C. Candida page here: http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/candida.html
A simple start would be reducing dietary sugars and increasing herbs like Garlic, Cinnamon, Oregano. Beneficial oils like Coconut and Caprylic Acid are certainly needed."
06/02/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa: "Hello again everyone! I'm back to give an update & ask Bill a question about my iodine supplement that I bought from a local health food store a couple weeks back. I'm still having what I call die-off symptoms from the candida protocol that Bill provided for my specific situation.
I did cut back on the dosages of nearly all things involved except for the lemon/baking soda/H2O & BS/H2O remedies. I'm still taking those a total of 3X daily. I take the lemon//baking soda/H20 remedy twice daily & the baking soda/H2O remedy at night.
I'm now at 3 weeks total on the protocol but didn't start the full protocol from Bill until 2 weeks ago. I have to say this is tough to stick with. I have definitely gotten worse with my symptoms. It's also hard in the diet area as well. I've still not cut sugar totally out of my diet yet either. I've cut back a lot & only use organic sugar products but even organic in sugar isn't good especially with a candida problem.
I bought a specific brand of iodine & it wasn't the Lugol's iodine solution. I know the protocol calls for a total of 8-16 drops of the Lugols. Mine wasn't a cheap brand but I think it certainly is a weaker soolution. 3 drops only contains 150mcg of iodine. It's a solution that has both potassium iodide & iodine itself. The brand name is Life-flo which specilaizes in organic products. The only other ingredient added the solution is purified water.
Going by the protocol for candida of 8-16 drops daily it looks like I need several more drops of this iodine solution for my situation. 150mcg per 3 drops would mean I need 8 drops just to get to 1mg of solution. That would mean I'd need a substantial more amount of drops to come closed to the Lugol's solution.
Bill, could you help me here with this particular iodine solution? I've only been taking the same amount recommended for the Lugol's iodine solution. I assume what I'm currently taking is basically doing nothing for my candida. Of course, I'm still using all the other suggestions for treatment/supplementation as well. From what I've read & gathered, iodine treatment is one of the best options available for removing systemic candida from the entire body so I want to get the right dosage for my padrticular brand. Thanks again guys!"Replies
06/03/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... I've looked into the type of iodine you are using and it is an extremely weak solution of iodine.
If 3 drops of Life-Flo iodide/iodine is equal to 150 micrograms then the minimum recommended dose of 50 milligrams would be equal to a daily drop dose of:
I drop of Life-Flo = 150/3 = 50 micrograms per drop
Number of drops of Life-Flo for 50 milligrams dose: 0.050/.000050 = 1000 drops of Life-Flo per day
I really wouldn't worry about this low iodine dosage. What I think you should do is just to concentrate, initially, on fully detoxing your body to get rid of heavy metals, bad halides and toxins etc first. Then, once you are sufficiently detoxed -- and your detox symptoms reduce -- then you can return to using the higher strength lugol's iodine to kill off the candida properly and hopefully the detox symptoms will be greatly reduced.
Here's what you should do:
* Keep taking the Life-Flo iodine at whatever daily dose you are happiest at -- whatever is bearable for you.
* Concentrate on just detoxing your body for now -- I think this is what's causing all your healing crisis problems. Use the borax and chlorella as advised and eat cilantro in salads and drink green tea frequently on a daily basis. This should quickly help to remove the heavy metals etc from your body. Whatever iodine dose you take may not be enough to quickly kill off the candida but should be enough to recover the thyroid and will also help to remove the bad halides from your body. Do this for about a month or until the Life-Flo iodine runs out then you can begin using the proper lugol's iodine in higher dose.
* You could perhaps also use Bentonite clay two or three times a day on a one day on, one day off basis. Once a week, you can also use Milk of Magnesia as a laxative to more quickly expel the toxins from the intestines.
* You must stick more rigidly to the anti-candida diet -- no sugar or carbohydrates, no dairy, no red meat etc as advised in the diet protocol.
This regimen will take a slightly longer time to help you get rid of the candida but at least, by adjusting the protocol like this, this will help you more easily bear the detox and die-off symptoms in separate stages.
I have treated Filipinos and a lady in Africa for serious systemic candida problems. What I have found is that people in more primitive countries tend to eat more natural foods grown on unpolluted soils. Consequently they seem to have less problems with heavy metal and halide detoxification. The African woman I have spoken about voluntarily went straight onto an iodine dose of 30 drops of 5% lugol's iodine without much problem -- that's about 100 mgs of iodine per day. But, for any person who has eaten western supermarket foods (chemically processed foods) for decades, even two drops of lugols iodine seems to cause horrific detox symptoms and reactions. My own daily dosage of 5% lugols is between 2 and 8 drops a day depending on how I feel. But I can do this because I know that my body is now free of heavy metals, bad halides and toxins -- and no candida."
06/03/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, USA replies: "Thanks again Bill for your reply back to me. Your post did catch my eye on a couple of things. First:
"You must stick more rigidly to the anti-candida diet -- no sugar or carbohydrates, no dairy, no red meat etc as advised in the diet protocol."
I must have missed something from the protocol about red meat. Keep in mind I eat almost entirely organic food. The red meat we buy is 100% grass-fed beef (85-15 lean). It's 100% grass fed & finished meat. There are no grains involved in the upkeep of these meats at all. 100% grass fed from start to finish. Wouldn't this type of red meat be okay especially for me since I have a protein problem anyhow? This meat is a really great source of protein.
The sugar part is the toughest on me. I hadn't used processed sugars in over 4 years before I started this protocol. However, I know all sugar has to be cut out. I've tried cutting back for these first 3 weeks. I'm eating 2 servings of fruit (only kiwi & apples) weekly. NOT DAILY!
Even nearly all of the organic foods/snacks we buy have at least some sugar content & that's with products that don't have any added sugars. Dairy is another tough one for me. I only eat raw milk & strictly grass fed dairy (mainly cheese) anyhow. I did buy some organic kefir but that's been consumed & I probably shouldn't buy anymore.
I have read that kefir is good for removing candida though. But, I also read it needs to be made from home instead of buying it from stores. There's too much sugar content from the store bought kefir. I think the one I bought had 10 grams of sugar per cup. I know it didn't have any added sugars though.
The diet is really tough for me! I'm trying hard to cut things out. However, shouldn't some of these foods be okay since I'm using organic/raw milk/100% grass fed products? I know cheese leads to mold & therefore more fungus problems. But, what about the healthy cheeses (organic, raw milk, grass fed) like I'm consuming? I don't eat a lot of these products but I do consume them in healthy versions instead of processed ones.
"You could perhaps also use Bentonite clay two or three times a day on a one day on, one day off basis. Once a week, you can also use Milk of Magnesia as a laxative to more quickly expel the toxins from the intestines."
I had totally forgotten about using the bentonite clay. I do remember how awful & gritty it was back when I was taking it before. I stopped drinking it & used it in my baths. The baths turned out totally messy so I only did those 2-3 times over a 10-day period. I also directly applied the clay mud to the swollen glands in my neck as well.
I've been using the MoM once a week to help expel the toxins from my body. I've noticed after taking the MoM when I have the next bowel movement I'm seeing quite a bit of mucus in my stool. I don't see as much at other times. Maybe every 5th bowel movement I might see some but not a significant amount as after taking the MoM. Shouldn't I be seeing more mucus in my stools? Remember, my endoscopy report had excess mucosa written all over it. My intestines & even esophagus seems to be overloaded with mucus.
I'll continue using the current iodine solution I have at 16 drops per day until it's gone. I do still use chlorella, green tea, & cilantro but I have cut back on the chlorella to every other day. I think it was really playing a big role in the die-off symptoms as well. My brand's dosage calls for 3 grams (1 tsp) daily.
I have a couple more questions as well. I've been taking the remedies(lemon/baking soda & BS/H2O) on an empty stomach. I then wait 30 minutes to eat or drink anything else. Is 30 minutes sufficient enough to wait?
I would also like to ask about the timing of taking the iodine solution. I've been taking it late morning (8 drops) & early evening (8 drops). Of course, this is diluted in 8 ounces of water. I read online that taking iodine after 4 PM can cause sleep problems. I've been having terrible insomnia in the past week or so. I've been using melatonin (3 mg) but it hasn't been working lately at all.
I tried another sleep aid last night & it made me sleep better. Maybe the early evening (between 6-7 PM) dosage is playing a contributing role in my sleep problems? I did have sleep problems in the past though before I ever became this sick. What's your take on the timing of my evening dose possibly causing sleep issues?
BTW, I'm also using OP as well to remove toxins from the body. My tongue looks 10X better than it did 3 weeks ago. I'm using organic/unrefined Sunflower Oil but also only doing this every other day for the time being. I was doing it every day up until the die-off symptoms got worse. I think everything I was doing in the protocol & even some of the extra stuff has been a big factor in making me feel so much worse.
I expect die-off but man this has been really tough on me. Also, I appear to have a significant systemic candida problem anyhow. I think with my story & symptoms you even confirmed that for me. It's gonna take a while for me to get this candida problem under control anyhow. Why rush it?
I'd like to be better soon but with my situation that's probably not gonna happen. I have FAITH though on my side as well. It's been tough on my faith but I know with the help of God things can happen. Thanks again for your kindly & timely reply back to me Bill! Have a great day!"
06/03/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Hello again Bill. I've found another iodine supplement at a local health food store. I CAN'T seem to find the Lugol's solution locally at all. I'm providing a link to the actual iodine product that I want to you to take a look at below:
That is the exact product & this is a company that I order from online regularly as well. I just happened to see this very product sold locally. Would this be sufficient for my iodine supplementation? I'm trying to avoid ordering anything else online right now. I want to be able to grab whatever I need locally.
What I have in mind with this iodine supplement is to start out at the 12.5 mg dosage & work my way up to 50 mg daily dosage. That would be 4 capsules daily to get to the 50 mg mark & then I would add 1 capsule every day to see if I can get around to the 100 mg daily dosage without too many detox problems.
Please let me know your opinion. I just want an iodine supplement that will get the job done. I would just get the Lugol's solution but it's not available locally that I can find anywhere. I know what I'm using right now is too weak as you posted yourself. This is stronger even though it's not liquid & not Lugol's either. I hope this one will be okay. Thanks!"
06/03/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... Many questions to answer from your last post so here goes:
On restricting sugar, calcium and iron in your diet
I think that you understand the necessity to avoid all sugar foods -- sugar simply feeds candida and helps it grow. Calcium and heme iron(iron from the blood of red meat) should also be avoided -- and it doesn't matter whether you eat organic or grass fed milk or red meat -- this restriction still stands. Any form of excess calcium or heme iron will help the candida to grow and will especially help candida to manufacture biofilms in which it can hide from the immune system and spread. Similarly, heavy metals also help candida to grow and create protective biofims -- which makes it much harder to defeat candida. So by taking the anti-candida protocol and, at the same time, increasing your calcium and iron intake is like taking 4 steps forwards and 3 steps back in your recovery. This is why any foods with high calcium and high heme iron are benned from the diet.
I am also well aware that sugary foods, dairy and red meat are effectively comfort foods for many people. But if you want to get rid of your candida relatively quickly -- then you must give up foods that contain sugar, calcium and iron. I am only asking you to give these foods up for the duration of your recovery -- after you get rid of the candida you can eat whatever you like. But if you analyse why you got candida in the first place -- part of the the reason has to be because of an inadequate diet -- where excess calcium, sugar and iron have played their part in weakening your immune system and greatly encouraging candida.
Mucus and Biofilms
After a number of years or decades, as candida spreads throughout the body, the outer part of biofims tend to harden -- which makes them even harder to eradicate. This is why I've advised that you take serrapeptase or bromelain or some form of protease enzyme which helps to digest and remove the hardened biofilms. The MoM procedure is necessary to help flush out the heavy metals and the younger, more fluid biofilms from the intestines. The Bentonite clay also helps in this heavy metal and biofilm removal process.
Timing of Alkalizing remedies
I would wait an hour after you alkalize before you eat anything.
Iodine: Timing, Frequency and Dosage
It's always better to take any mineral or vitamin at low dosage and more frequently throughout the day. So I would take the lugol's iodine at 4 drops, 4 times a day and always take the last dose before 5 pm. Take these dosages first thing in the morining and late morning, then early afternoon and late afternoon(always outside mealtimes). Like you, taking iodine in the evening tends to energize me and wakes me up -- which is not what you want if you want to sleep soundly. Also, taking magnesium at about 9 pm -- an hour before sleep -- tends to relax the body and helps to stop insomnia.
I would certainly recommend oil pulling -- this is a great way too detox your body -- but be aware that the detox reaction and symptoms from this procedure can be quite significant.
When you consider that it has taken many years for the candida to reach this sort of problem level, it is perhaps reasonable to say that candida clearance will take several months. However, the turning point comes -- you will feel it and know it -- when the detox symptoms suddenly disappear and the die-off symptoms also slowly reduce. Then you know you are winning and it all becomes much easier. And if you have any problems you can just ask on EC and you will always get support."
06/05/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, USA replies: "Hello again Bill! Sorry for the late reply back. Let me address your comments back to me as well:
"On restricting sugar, calcium and iron in your diet"
I understand what you're saying & I'll try my best to get these 3 nutrients out of my diet for now while on the candida protocol. Meat is something that I eat normally at least 2/3 meals a day. For now, I'll just have to limit the meat consumption to organic chicken, turkey, & wild caught fish. I'll cut the organic raw milk swiss cheese out as well. That might be the toughest for me. I do eat about 1 oz. of this cheese daily.
I know organic raw milk cheese is healthy but since I have a candida problem I need to eliminate it for now. Organic grass fed beef is very healthy for you but I will also eliminate it for now. I just wished I knew how long this candida/detox process is going to take for me to get my health & life back. Unfortunately, we just don't know! I do have a pretty serious case of candida it appears.
This is really tough but my faith will also go a long way in my recovery as well. Even that's being tested here! I've been pretty sick for about 4 months now! BTW, I know stress has also played a big role in the spreading of my candida. I've been under tremendous stress for over 5 years counting now. Add to that not getting enough physical exercise & improper diet for that period & this is where I'm at now!
"Mucus and Biofilms"
I'm taking bromelain(2400 GDU/g) at a dosage of 415 mg once daily usually 2 hours after a meal. Should I be taking more & should I take it with meals or after meals like I have been doing? Also, I bought a new Multi that actually already has bromelain in it at 2000 GDU/g but it's only 50 mg.
I read that taking bromelain between meals(say around 2 hours after) actually helps with inflammation as well. Let me know how I should take bromelain since I definitely have a system wide inflammation issue as well & not just a problem from the digestive tract.
I did go back & bring out the bentonite clay. It had been about 3 1/2 months since I ordered that stuff. It had went bad! Not like it was ever good(tasting) to start with! Ha! I'm just gonna skip using this stuff. I did use it internally & with baths before but the gritty taste of this stuff is AWFUL! I'll stick with the chlorella & MoM for the biofilms & heavy metals.
"Timing of Alkalizing remedies"
I'll now wait 1 hour before eating anything. Sometimes, that might hard to stick with just like some of these other things but I'll do my best here as well.
"Iodine: Timing, Frequency and Dosage"
This is another one that might be hard to follow. I've been taking the iodine twice daily at 8 drops per dose. Is it okay to take the magnesium on an empty stomach? I've been taking it with meals only. I didn't know magnesium promotes relaxation & sleep.
I started out doing this daily. Maybe that was also causing me even more detox die-off. I've now cut back to this every other day as well. I'm doing the chlorella every other day now to keep from the bad die-off symptoms that I had been experiencing. I've felt awful recently!
I've even thought about completely stopping everything for a few days but I know that will set me back. I've got to stay strong & keep fighting the battle. It's tough when you have a 11 year old son & wife & do your daily activities in life. I'm now in my 4th week total on the protocol but only 3 weeks for the full protocol you suggested to me. Of course, I've had to cut back the dosage on the niacin & magnesium to the normal dosage suggested from the protocol.
I only did the lemon/baking soda/H2O & baking soda/H2O remedies for the 1st week. I hope to see a turn for the better soon. However, I guess I need to stick with the strict diet guidelines if I really want to see a faster improvement. Thanks again for your great support in my situation! God Bless & take care Bill!"
06/06/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Hello again Bill! Thanks for that very detailed explanation about my previous concerns about nutrients. I just know that grass/green fed beef is really a healthy meat to consume. I watch TBN on TV regularly. I'm sure you've heard of the Maker's Diet started by Jordan Rubin.
He emphasizes the importance of eating healthy green/grass fed beef. That's how he got his health back. He had been very sick from diagnosis of several diseases within his body. He was on his death bed but through faith & the Maker's Diet he was saved & now lives a healthy life.
I'm not trying to dispute your findings & links. I understand your information provided but healthy red meat is a beneficial food. Now, I know though that during this time on the candida protocol I should avoid it. I can add it back once I get better. I do love this red meat though. It taste sooooo much better than the conventional red meat bought from regular grocery stores. Anyhow, I'll remove red meat from my diet until I start seeing some great improvement.
Also, could you please go back & address a question I asked on 06-03-12? I had added some information to that reply. It's about a particular iodine supplement I've found locally. I can't get the Lugol's iodine locally. Let me know if that product is okay to use as my iodine supplementation once I finish what I have now. I provided a link to the actual iodine product.
I would also like to ask you about VCO. I cut back the intake of VCO to 1 tbsp. Daily. I was using the recommended 2 tbsp. Daily but like most other nutrients/supplements I cut back because of the significant detox symptoms. I know that VCO has tons of health benefits. I also know it's used for weight loss.
Lord knows I don't need to be losing anymore weight. I've already lost over 20 pounds. Should I continue taking the VCO? I know it's good for you in that it has antiviral, anti-inflammatory, antibacterial, & antioxidant properties. I just don't like the possibility of losing more weight. Let me know!
I tried the herpes treatment provided by Ted but it must have not worked for me. I've already had another small outbreak since. It was the 3-day treatment with VitC/L-Lysine/Olive Leaf. I still take the L-Lysine but only at 1000 mg daily. I just can't hardly handle high dosages of L-Lysine. Maybe the OP might be causing another outbreak as well.
Maybe the VCO could possibly help with the herpes treatment as well though. I'm trying to weigh the benefits of VCO for me in comparison to the possible negative effects of more weight loss. Thanks again for your time! Have a great day Bill!"
05/20/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa: "Hello again Bill! I just wanted to come back & update you on my treatment protocol. Yesterday, I seemed to be feeling quite a bit better. Today, I can't say the same though. I've had nausea all day & that ache/pain in the back of head and neck is really bad. I did start the herpes treatment plan as well on Friday. This is the 3rd & final day of that treatment. I'm using the L-Lysine/Vit C/Olive Leaf Extract plan suggested by Ted.
I also started the other suggestions you told me about increasing Magnesium (1000mg daily) & Niacin(500mg, 3x daily) dosage. I started that yesterday as well. Is this just a sign of detox for my health situation? I really hadn't had this bad of symptoms just using the candida protocol you provided me. It seems the addition of the herpes treatment & possibly the increase in magnesium & niacin might have caused me to feel like a backslide.
Now, this is the final day for treating my herpes so I won't have this dosage after tonight. I do plan on taking either L-Lysine or Lecithin at a maintenance dose(1200mg daily) for about 1 month. I'm just concerned I may be taking too much right now. I know our bodies are going to go through a transition with these treatment protocols.
I've been on the candida protocol for almost 2 weeks now. However, I didn't get into the full protocol you gave me for my specific situation until this past week. Please give me your opinion & comments on this situation. I certainly feel worse today! I hope it's just a sign things are working on me! Thanks again Bill! "Replies
05/21/2012: Sue from Dallas, Texas replies: "I did some research on your problem and the number one supplement I keep seeing by a healing book that I have is Beta 1, 3 D-glucan. It says it is useful for treating bacterial, viral and fungal disease. Doseage is as directed on the label.
Then L-Lysine 1500 mg on an empty stomach. Do not take with milk.
Take with 50mg vit B6 and 100 mg of C for better absorption. Also Vit C w/bioflavonoids 5-10,000 per day. This prevents sores and inhibits the virus.
Also a B complex which might have the required B6 from above. 50mg of each major B vitaminn three times a day to combat virus and keep it from spreading.
Vit A 25,000 iu daily. Important for healing and prevents spreading.
These items were listed as "Very Important" to take.. Hope this is helpful to you. Good luck!"
05/21/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks Sue for your reply. I will see if Bill makes a reply back to me though first. Bill & I have been in good communication about my specific health situation. I'm on an advanced candida protocol because it appears I have a pretty significant overgrowth of candida in my body. Add to that I have genital herpes that just may have spread as well over the years. I have at least a viral & fungal aspect in my health situation.
I've already did the 3-day treatment for my genital herpes & the last couple days I've felt horrible. I think it's just part of the die-off/treatment protocols that I'm using from Bill's advice.
My body seems to be in a mess right now. Things are surely to get worse before getting better. However, I wasn't seeing this type of reaction until yesterday & I started the initial candida protocol about 2 weeks ago.
Bill suggested an increase in a couple of supplements late last week. I increased these dosages over the weekend as well. Then, yesterday is when I started feeling pretty rough. I believe this is all related to the die-off effect of candida & possibly the rapid 3-day treatment for genital herpes.
I'm now finished with that treatment though. I already had a difficult time with L-Lysine in the past. It always made me nauseated. Anyhow, thanks for the reply & hopefully Bill will be able to respond directly to this thread soon!"
05/22/2012: Sue M. from Worden, Il, Usa replies: "Hi Tony. I dealt with candida for several years and the one catalyst for me was virgin coconut oil. I felt absolutely terrible with it when I first started, but I found out that I started out with too much, too soon. Still didn't feel the greatest when I reduced the amount, but from what I read, it was doing what it was suppose to. Along with a good probotic and 1 to 2 tbs of VCO everyday, I am happy to say I do not suffer from candida anymore. It did take me a long time to get to this stage, tho. Hang in there."
05/22/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... You will have many ups and downs initially when you are taking these protocols, mainly due to the detox and Herx die-off effects. This is normal and actually proves that you are kiliing the candida and associated pathogens in your body as well as removing poisons from your body now. And I'm afraid that I can't tell you how long these detox and die-off symptoms will last because they individually depend on how long you have had the candida infection, what other associated pathogens you also have in your body and the actual extent of the candida infection itself.
These detox symptoms also tend to put a great strain on the liver/kidneys -- the main organs that purify and protect the blood and serum -- which has to cope with clearing all the candida toxins and debris from the die-off as well as removing all the heavy metals and bad halogens now being detoxed from your body now. This will make you feel weak and awful for a while for sure, but you will come out of it eventually as the immune system once again is able to dominate the pathogens in your body again. Stay with with the protocol if you can -- but if the die-off and detox effects get unbearable then just reduce the dosages of only the iodine, borax and other candida attack nutrients. The rest of the protocol should remain the same.
Remember to take both the alkalizing remedies(lemon/lime & Bicarb and sodium Bicarb on its own with water) as advised -- this will also help to remove the toxins more safely. The molybdenum will also help to neutralize the aldehyde aflatoxins in your body as well as help to kill the candida fungus. The Liver Support Protocol should also help to ease your symptoms too by providing strong anti-oxidant support."
05/22/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks Sue! Was that your entire candida program? Just VCO & probiotics? I'm sure you changed your diet but is that pretty much all of the supplements/herbs/vitamins, etc. that you actually took?
I started out at 2 tbsp. of VCO but I do take it with meals. That's supposed to help with possible nausea associated with it. I'm just worried that I'm taking entirely too much stuff. I have about 10-15 bottles of supplements. That doesn't include the lemon/baking soda remedy twice daily & the other things I'm implementing as well.
I've just felt awful since Sunday. Nausea & more aches & pains in the back of my head and neck. I feel awful all over to be honest. I wasn't feeling this way until I started the herpes treatment & the increase in a couple supplements. My bowel movements have also increased(around 3 daily) which is a good thing. However, I get a short tingling/chilling sensation now with bowel movements. Maybe this is just part of the toxins being released from my system & my body's reaction to it.
Maybe it's just part of the cleansing process but it must be a delayed die-off for me. I feel much worse now than I did before I started the protocols. I'm trying to hang in there & continue but I admit feeling like this makes it very hard. I know I need it though & for me to be healthy I'm going to have to stick with it. I definitely have a candida overgrowth problem.
May I ask how long you suffered from a candida problem? Mine has been accumulating for at least 16 years. Things just came to a big halt back in February after using a tongue scraper for the 1st time in my life. Could you provide an outline of your actual way back to ridding yourself of candida overgrowth? Was part of it what you posted in a previous reply about Beta 1, 3 D-glucan, etc? Thanks!"
05/22/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Hello again Bill! I guess you posted after me because I didn't see your reply. I can honestly say this is extremely difficult to deal with now. I was actually doing okay until this Sunday. I started feeling nausea & just more aches & pains throughout my entire body. It's put me into more of an anxiety/depressed situation now. I'm more shaky now than 1 week ago.
I do understand about the die-off symptoms from candida. I just find it odd that my die-off seems to have been delayed. I started the initial lemon/baking soda & ACV remedies 2 weeks ago today. I then started adding the suggestions you recommended to me early last week.
I was feeeling okay until the herpes treatment & the additional dosages of magnesium & niacin. It may just be a coincidence that my die-off symptoms worsened at this time. The pain in the back of my head & neck got worse for sure. I even have some dizziness now too. Then, I started getting nausea on Sunday as well. That's even with taking ginger root powder with every meal too.
Now, it wouldn't matter if I was taking ginger root if this is a severe die-off reaction. I assume I have a pretty severe systemic candida infection. We've been in discussion about my health situation for some days now. You even said all of my health issues are directly related to a candida overgrowth. I'm pretty confident in saying that as well.
I know the die-off symptoms could go on for weeks in my health situation. I think I'm gonna just cut back on the support nutrients/supplements for a few days to slow down the process. Yeah, I want to get better as fast as possible but the way I feel now is not worth speeding it up.
I'll continue the lemon/baking soda & ACV remedies at the current rate(3X daily). I'll just cut all of the other recommended dosages in half for at least a few days. BTW, I'm also doing OP as well. I started that last week at a pace of every other day once in the mornings. I'm using Organic Sunflower oil for my OP.
I also think the Chlorella might be playing a big factor in the increase in die-off reaction as well. I might stop the chlorella for a few days as well. I'm drinking organic green tea 2 times daily anyhow along with the cilantro added to salads. I just feel I'm taking too much stuff now & all of these added together has now kicked in to produce these delayed die-off reactions. Thanks again for your reply!"
05/23/2012: Sue M. from Worden, Il, Usa replies: "Hey Tony.... I don't mean to show any disrespect to Bill and his helping you with your health issues. So, all I can tell you is what worked for me. I actually found out that the lemon/baking soda regiment did not work for me. Within an hour or so I would feel terrible. I think of doing it day in and day out had the opposite effect on me. It has been trial and error for me for many years. I suffered with candida for about 8 or 9 years. Some days I would feel ok, but most days I was irritable, tired, depressed, etc. I did change my diet to eat healthier, but had to be careful of "raw" since that made my digestion work that much harder and took too much energy. Starting on the VCO regime was a long process.... I would say a good 6 mos. I had to do a gradual process of amounts. Yes, all I took was the VCO and probotics. I had messed up my system so much by putting too much into it. Sometimes the simplier is the better.
The only supplements I am on now is Omega 3, B-complex, Red Marine Algae, Astaxanthin, Magnesium Glynicate, spices (ginger, turmeric, cardamon) and a Ayurvedic "healthy pitta" blend.
All I can tell you is that too much mixing of certain supplements, etc. Made me feel worse, instead of better. Sugar, is the biggest culprit for triggering any stomach issues for me. I hope this helps you in some way."
05/23/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks again Sue for your reply. I too think I've just been on too much stuff. That's why I told Bill I would cut the dosages in half on the support nutrients/supplements. I was taking so much I couldn't hardly keep up with what I was actually taking. I'm definitely gonna take things at a slower pace now.
I do want to get better but why rush the healing process & make yourself miserable? That's how I felt for the past few days now. I already feel some better today by just cutting the dosages back.
I will gradually increase to where I can get back to what Bill suggested me to take. We all are different! We have to listen to our body & what it tells us. I know my body was telling me you're overloading me. The die-off is a part of the overall process but I couldn't handle how I was feeling since Sunday.
It's gonna probably take me months to get my candida under control. It's also hard to follow the strict diet guidelines. It's hard not to eat some things you shouldn't. I'm just trying to totally cut sugar out of my diet for now. That's my first step in the diet area.
I haven't even felt like exercising the past few days. I was exercising 20-30 minutes every other day before things worsened. I'm gonna take it slower with the candida protocol & exercise regime & hopefully things will take a turn for the better soon. Thanks!"
05/23/2012: Mgws from Dover, New Hampshire, Usa replies: "Perhaps the Oil Pulling thing will help keep sugar cravings down?"
05/10/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa: "Hello everyone! I have a long story but I'll make it as short as possible. I started using tongue scrapers back in February 2012 for the first time in my life. My tongue bled pretty bad for the 1st 3 days of usage. I was doing this only at night. Let me say that I'd had a white coating on my tongue that had gotten worse(thicker & more spread) over the past few years.
On the 4th day I started having difficulty swallowing, swollen glands in my neck, & pain/discomfort in upper chest. Anyhow, I've been to the ER several times since February. Had numerous CT scans, X-rays, barium swallows, even MRI of my spine. Things just continued to worsen over the past 3 months.
I was even admitted to the hospital abvout 3 weeks ago with diagnosed acute renal failure. I've said all along that this was a candida problem. The docs have treated me with diflucan & nystatin but the symptoms only go away for a short time. All of my recent bloodwork has come back normal. I had high creatine readings(as high as 4. 4) while hospitalized. Since then it's back to normal range but my sickness continues.
I've temporarily experimented with some of the natural remedies from this site but only for a short period of time. The docs continue to tell me it's not a systemic yeast problem but I beg to differ. I was suffering from extreme stress for a few years before this physical sickness started. I think this stress has weakened my immune system totally. I've never been a prescription med person so I always look for alternative/natural remedies.
Ever since the hospitalization I now suffer from hypertension issues. I started the lemon/baking soda formula this past Sunday. My blood pressure has been somewhat lower in recent days. I also mix in the ACV remedy as well. I'm currently on numerous herbs & suppplements as well including the food grade H2O2 remedy for candida.
I can't help but think the timing of my sickness with the white coating on my tongue getting worse in recent years & the tongue scraping led to a systemic candida infection in my body. The docs refuse to believe that & it's typical of traditional doctors. I'm now into the candida program from Ted's Remedies. I just started this about 5 days ago.
BTW, for about 3 weeks now I've had electric shock/tingling sensations that comes all over my body especially during the night. Seems like panic/anxiety attacks coming upon me. These sensations have led to some numbness on my right upper side under my arms. I've also had pressure/banding/slight numbness feelings in my head along with lightheadness. Does this story seem like an almost certain case of systemic candida? Thanks for this site & your comments are appreciated. BTW, I'm also dealing with this sickness spiritually as well. I'm a 41 year old married male with one 11 year old son. Thanks!"Replies
05/10/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... The full anti-candida protocol with diet for systemic candida is given here:
This protocol is all based upon Ted from Bangkok's remedies for candida.
Doctor's are also not very good at diagnosing or treating candida. They seem to think that systemic candida is trivial and only causes problems in the gut. They seem completely unable to accept, despite all the research evidence, that candida can have many variable symptoms because candida is usually always associated with and encourages various other dangerous pathogens in the body. Nystatin is also a poor remedy for systemic candida(candida in the blood) because it is so badly absorbed into the body.
Other remedies against candida also include castor oil(undecylenic acid) and Sodium Molybdate(SM). SM is also quite useful because not only does it kill candida, it also neutralizes the aflatoxins from the candida fungus(removes poisonous aldehydes etc) in the blood which all helps to reduce the sickening die-off efects. Dosage and frequency for SM are given here"
05/11/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks for the quick response Bill. I'm going to follow the updated candida protocol that you provided on 04-06-12. I probably won't use all things involved but I will utilize most of the program. I also intend to use Chlorella (organic, broken cell wall) in the treatment process as well. I already have some of the materials needed including the Chlorella.
I do need to ask you a quick question though. Is there any such thing as taking too much of these remedies at once? In other words, can you take too much of these supplements/herbs/remedies/minerals/, etc to cause more problems? I notice there is quite a bit of stuff needed for the treatment protocol so I don't see this to be an issue.
My wife is scared I will put too much stuff into my body. I told her it couldn't be worse than taking a bunch of prescription medications. After my discharge from the hospital I was prescribed 4 meds. I did take them sparingly for a few days. I stopped them & started my usual method of treating my body & that's the alternative/natural way.
Prayer has also done a lot for me as well. I'm a big herbal guy & have been for a few years. God intended for us to use herbs to help make our bodies work like they should & heal us with them when sickness happens. I absolutely hate any type of prescription medication. Thanks for your reply & I just want to get things clear before actually taking too much stuff!"
05/12/2012: Bill from Bt130550@gmail.com, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... Yes, your quite right, people do assume that they have to take the whole protocol -- every single mutrient -- but that's not really the way to use it. Perhaps that's my fault. Many of the candida attack remedies -- such as the iodine, HP, borax, Pau D'arco etc -- are just there as options. I've helped people around the world who have candida and I have found that, especially in regions like the Philippines and Africa, people from these regions just cannot get alot of the candida attack nutrients. Some then say that they have no money, so what can I do and how can I help them?
I usually end up doing a mental tap-dance trying to search for herbs in their region that are anti-candida and very cheap or grow for free in their areas and then get back to them with the advice.
So the emphasis within my own protocols is to have a cheap-as-possible remedy, with options, that is also very effective and where all nutrients are readily available on a world-wide basis and if they are not then the other protocols represent other options.
For me, I have used the following protocol, which is perhaps my favourite and which has always worked and been succesful against candida as well as other problems. Here is an example(should be read together with the anti-candida protocols given in EC):
To kill the candida(and associated pathogens)
- Lugol's Iodine
- Alkalizing with lemon/lemon and BS
- Alkalizing with just BS and water
- To Support the Body Terrain
- Vitamin C
- Humic Acid or Sea Salt
- Higher dose Vitamin B3 plus B50 Complex
- To Support the liver(if you have bad detox or die off reactions)
- Milk Thistle
- Chanca piedra
- N-Acetyl l-Cysteine
The above example protocol is all you really need to kill off and get rid of candida. The point is that if your die-off or detox symptoms are not severe then you wont have to take the liver support protocol at all -- which is simply there as an option to give support and lessen the die-off and detox effects.
So when you look at this protocol as I've just described it -- this isn't really such a tough protocol to follow at all.
I've also found, when helping and advising people in more primitive regions like the Philippines and Africa, that these people have far less heavy metals, halogens and poisons in there bodies than Western people. I wrote to one desperate woman in Africa and happened to mention that a dose of 30 drops of 5% lugols was used regularly in pre-1900 days. So she immediately started using 30 drops of lugols a day in her anti-candida regimen and I was horrified. But she had no awful and severe detox effects as would normally happen if say a European or an American started using 30 drops of lugols iodine a day. And that's because Western people are chocker block with heavy metals, bad halogens and other poisons in their bodies -- and thats why even one drop of lugols can give such severe and terrible detox reactions only in western people -- because of their processed food and water diet -- accumulating poisons in their bodies over decades -- is so bad. And that's why western people will always need to include the liver support protocol to help them bear their inevitable severe detox and die-off problems when using this anti-candida protocol."
05/12/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks Bill for that very detailed reply back to me. Candida overgrowth seems like a very difficult situation to get under control. I've said since this sickness started back in early February that the cause was due to candida. Like I said in a previous reply and you said the same thing, docs will not look at this as the causitive factor in most sickness & diseases.
I started getting a white coated tongue back in about 1996. It was mild back then but here 16 years later the coating was 1/8 thick on my tongue. The tongue scraping set things really into motion. Most sickness starts in our digestive tracts though. I'm sure the candida overgrowth was working in all parts of my body by 2012.
There's a couple things I need to mention as well. I had an endoscopy during the middle of this sickness. Written all over the lab report was the words 'excess or irregular mucosa'(mucus). After googling & reading more into this there seems to be a link to excess mucus in the body related candida overgrowth. Of course, the gastrologist said this was perfectly normal readings on the report. I even had an ENMT doc tell me the same thing.
I'm 99% convinced all of my health problems are related to candida overgrowth. I mean my white coated tongue that gradually gotten worse over the years is proof. Every doctor I've seen said this was perfectly normal & that nearly everybody has a white coated tongue in adult life. Most of the white coating has disappeared but some is still there now. I think my entire body has candida overgrowth. I have way too many areas of my body involved here.
The 2nd thing I need to mention is back in 2008 I was diagnosed with chronic prostatitis. I was treated with 2-3 courses of antibiotics. My symptoms only temporarily got better. I still today have prostate related issues. I believe the fungus(candida) has been in my prostate since 2008. I've been on Saw Palmetto/Prostate Formulas off & on since 2008. Nothing has cured me from the prostate issues. That's why I'm also convinced my prostate problems are fungus overgrowth related. My whole body I believe is just infested with candida overgrowth.
BTW, I'm heading out later today to purchase all of the other needed supplies for the candida protocol you've kindly provided for members here at EC. I'm keeping a positive attitude along with God being in my life. I'll get this awful situation under control. I know there is no quick fix for a candida overgrowth problem. I'll keep patient through asking God to help me with that. We are always wanting things fixed immediately here on this earth.
What is your opinion on my health situation? You can take my original story & all other replies back to you to make an educated guess. Again, thanks for the information you kindly provide here at EC. God Bless you!"
05/12/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... Thanks for your detailed and extremely lucid explanations regarding your own candida. You seem to have clear thoughts on your own candida problems which is good to hear. Time and again, regarding both candida and other yeast problems in general, the thinking is all wrong. For instance, the number of posts that I've read here on EC where women with vaginal yeast problems use yoghurt, lactobacillus etc or even antibiotics on their yeast problem which gets rid of it for a while -- then two months later the same problem comes back. Similarly, I've read many posts where someone has a white furry tongue and they simply assume that they have just oral candida in the mouth only. Really? Oral candida is also a symptom of systemic candida. And these people are flumoxed as to how to get rid of their yeast problem -- why does it keep coming back?? No one asks the essential question -- Could this continual yeast problem possibly be caused by a sytemic internal yeast/fungal infection in the blood? Treating such systemic fungal problems topically will never eradicate an internal fungal infection. Trouble is that people seem to be thinking like doctors here and there is a great lack of logic in their thinking. This is frustrating.
When I had candida I had many skin problems --- tinea cruris(jock itch), psoriasis, eczma, dandruff, athletes foot(had this for 25 years, tried everything to get rid of it. Nothing worked. ) etc. And when my candida was gone, all these skin problems just faded away without any topical or other treatment at all. And that is when I had my "Aha!! " moment and realized the reason why. All my skin problems were just symptoms of my candida. So the greatest piece of advice I can give you is -- Just focus on nothing else but killing off the candida. You will be astounded as you watch all your other numerous problems -- simply disappear.
Since your candida also seems to be quite serious and and well established, I would also advise that you take the following:
A well known anti-fungal which is also recommended by Ted from Bangkok. Molybdate also kills candida but, perhaps even more importantly, it also neutralizes toxic aldehyde poisons from candida's aflatoxins. So it reduces the die-off effects on the body(stops you feeling so awful). The dose is about 20 mgs Sodium molybdate per day. This should be taken on its own with water outside mealtimes.
Bentonite Clay(food grade)
You should have no problems getting this in the US. Take internally as recommended. This will also detox your intestines as well as help to kill the candida. Bentonite works because it's particles have a negative charge which helps to attract and remove postively charged toxins, heavy metals and pathogens(with positive charges) safely.
Biofilms and Protease Enzymes
From the new research, Candida, as well as other bacteria, are well known to protect themselves with biofilms -- which is a form of micros-slime made from lipid proteins. In your case, perhaps the excessive intestinal mucus diagnosis confirms the biofim problem. This makes the pathogens quite hard to reach and kill in your intestines. Older biofilms tend to harden in their outer layers over the years making them even more difficult to destroy. Protease enzymes such as Serrapeptase(from the silkworm), Nattokinase(from Japanese cheese), Lumbrokinase(from earthworms), Bromelain(pineapple), Papain(papaya) and even Pancreatin will all help to digest the hardened and stubborn outer layers of the biofilm in your intestines to help de-cloak and completely expose the candida and other pathogens in your intestines which will then be killed more easily by the other candida attack remedies.
Just some more options for you, which will all help to speed up healing. Also, taking higher dose lugols iodine will reduce the prostatitis problem. Just focus on getting rid of the candida -- this is the root of all your problems."
05/13/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks for another detailed response Bill. I now have everything I need to treat my candida problem. I even have some bentonite clay on hand. I purchased a 1lb. Package back in February. I have taken a few clay baths along with applying the mud mixture directly to my swollen glands in my neck a few times. It did temporarily help with the toxins. I'll go back to directly drinking it as well. It's hard to drink that stuff!
I actually got a replacement product for the sodium molydbate. The health food stores didn't have that but a pharmacist recommended something called molybdenum. The only thing is it's a small dose of 500 mcgs per capsule. You suggested 20 mg daily. I couldn't find anything locally even close to that dosage or even the direct name of your suggested product.
I tried several stores. Some stores had no clue as to what I was asking for. I went ahead & bought the 500 mcg dosage of the molybdenum. The bromelain & papaya wasn't a problem at all. Got them both from a local pharmacy. I'll post back again soon with an update on my situation.
I do have a lot of stuff to take but I know over the next few weeks I'm going to see a big improvement in my health. It wasn't going to be that way through traditional medicine. I just want to say thanks to you Bill & Ted for helping me as well as others here at EC. God Bless & take care!"
05/13/2012: Cindy from Cochrane, Wi replies: "For bill---I have been planning to start candida protocol also and have been following and reading these latest posts. What I was wondering after reading the woman from africas daily and hourly regimen of supplements are there things to be or not to be combined together for the best results? thank you so much for all your help for all of us."
05/14/2012: Cindy from Cochrane, Wisc. replies: "Tony a quick search on amazon for sodium molybdate said it is a fine powder mainly used as fertilizer/animal feed grade and is 39.5% molybdenum! Good luck with your candida battle, I wish you well. I too plan to start this week after I purchase a few more of the supplements. I would be interested in hearing your progress."
05/14/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks for your reply Cindy. Believe it or not, I just checked my liquid multi & it has molybdenum in it. It's a small amount but it does have some in the liquid formula. 20 mg seems like a lot that Bill suggested but I assume that's from a straight source of sodium molybdate. I couldn't find it like that locally from any health food stores.
Maybe Bill will chime back in & give a bit more information on where to look for this product. I need it going by his last reply because of what appears to be an excess mucus problem in my digestive system caused by candida overgrowth. I could only find this product sold separately in the form of molybdenum & in a 500 mcg dosage. Thanks & good luck with your candida cleanse as well!"
05/14/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... The other nutrients that I advised in my previous post were only options which would speed up removing the candida and perhaps give you a softer landing from the die-off and detox effects. For sodium molybdate, the only source I can advise is for you to look for it on the internet. This is one of the reasons I don't normally advise SM in the protocol -- because it is so hard to find.
The 500 mcg molybdenum dose should suffice because both the alkalizing (particularly the simple baking soda and water mix) as well as taking lugol's iodine also helps to disrupt the biofilms as well.
To help get rid of the excess mucus problem(and biofilms), it might be useful to take Milk of Magnesia as a laxative once a week or once a month. This will remove the excess mucus in the intestines fairly quickly and help to remove the biofilms quickly too. This is perhaps a harsher regimen but it works in three ways. First, the high alkalinity of MoM will help to remove the biofilms. Secondly, the high alkalinity of MoM will also kill the candida and thirdly, being laxative, both the candida and toxins will be excreted from the body fairly quickly(and are not absorbed into the body). This is quite a harsh way of doing it and the decision to use MoM like this is really yours. You will have to take minerals and drink plenty of water after the laxative effects of MoM to ensure proper electrolytic mineral balance in the body. You are taking a liquid multi anyway so this shouldn't be a problem."
05/14/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Cindy... That's a really good question that you have asked. Yes, it's one thing to advise this and that for remedies, but it would also be very useful to describe how to actually take the protocols -- the dos and donts -- so here goes -- I'll just describe how to take the dosages from my preferred regimen in this post stream above:
Lugol's Iodine -- Always taken on its own -- with nothing else -- with water in split doses, four times a day, because it is so active. The whole point of this is to get as much of the iodine into the blood as possible to systemically kill the candida and other pathogens. I always take lugols iodine outside mealtimes because more is absorbed into the body this way. When you start to take the iodine -- remember the maxim -- Start Small and Go Slow and work up to your maximum dose that way.
Baking Soda and Water: A much maligned and belittled remedy and people dont seem to like taking this one very much. But anyone with serious candida issues should be taking this remedy constantly -- with no argument. This remedy helps to kill the candida and also helps to resolve digestive issues a well as alkalizing the intestines and blood. This protocol is an essential part of the anti-candida protocols. Never taken at mealtimes.
Lemon/Lime with BS or ACV with BS and water - These alkalize the intracellular environment and are also an essential part of the anti-candida remedies. Should be taken two or three times a day outside mealtimes.
Borax or Sodium Tetraborate - The ultimate fungal killer which also helps to detox and remove fluoride from the body as well as helping to balance the hormones in the body. Borax can also be mixed in and taken with the above alkalizing remedies without problems. Normally taken outside mealtimes.
Body Terrain Support Nutrients -- These are also very important supportive nutrients for the body which also help to address other metabolic issues such as malabsorbtion problems, vitamins, mineral balance etc. And some might also notice that every single one of these advised nutrients are usually the ones that are sadly lacking in all our diets -- so part of the reason we contract candida and get ill is actually because of a chronic lack of body nutrients in the first place which weakens our immune system over time to allow pathogen invasion into our bodies.
Liver Support Nutrients(ALA, Milk Thistle, Selenium, NAC, Chanca Piedra) -- always taken together at mealtimes for best effect(Chanca Piedra can also be taken as a tea). Usually supplemented because of insufficient liver problems or heavy die-off or detox reaction causing problems or because of a damaged liver.
Usually, when you have candida, it is also necessary to detox heavy metals from the body and there are many ways to do this (heavy metals in the body are a prime cause of candida). Iodine is a good heavy metal detoxer. 10% Sodium Thiosulfate or chlorella or kelp are also good ones. Just eating cilantro three times a week in salads and drinking green tea every day wiill also be effective in cleansing the body of heavy metals by way of diet.
What might also help you is if you look in the Remedy Combinations section of EC and read Ted from Bangkok's recommendations."
05/14/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... I forgot to address the individual issues that you are having. This will help you to understand your own problems and perhaps help you more to comprehend the protocols you are taking.
Ever since the hospitalization I now suffer from hypertension issues...
Both lugol's iodine and higher dose B3(taken with B50 Complex) are already in the Anti-Candida protocols. Dr Abram Hoffer, an orthomolecular doctor and researcher, found that iodine and niacin together when taken at higher dosage -- called iodo-niacin in the old days -- had wonderful effects on lowering blood pressure, balancing HDL and LDL and reducing arteriosclerosis, reducing depression and reducing various neuropathic problems. Vitamin B3 also has considerable beneficial effect on the CNS, digestion, heart and liver when taken in the higher dose. Just type "Hoffer niacin" in Google Search for all the evidence. Niacin is a good one(I take it) but you can also use the flushless niacinamide form as well as another slower time release form of niacin called inositol hexanicotinate. You will also find that taking niacin this way will help to relax you. That's been my own experience with B3. Niacin should always be taken after meals. So if you take the lugols iodine with the B3 and magnesium everyday(as recommended in the protocols) -- your panic attacks should also be greatly reduced.
On the 4th day I started having difficulty swallowing, swollen glands in my neck, & pain/discomfort in upper chest...
Rather than use the tongue scraping, which will not get rid of the candida in the mouth, I would simply use 1% to 3% Hydrogen Peroxide as a mouthwash three times a day. This will be more effective in killing the candida in the mouth region. You can also use it as a gargle to help your throat issues. For your lung issues you can perhaps use 1% HP in a spray or nebulized form to rid these issues as recommended on EC. I also sniff and inhale the lugol's iodine if I feel that lung or nose problems may be forthcoming and it usually works to stop problems arising in both the nose and lungs. Lugol's Iodine constantly sublimates or vaporizes so if you sniff inhale this into your lungs a few times a day and every day for about ten minutes or so then this should slowly help to heal and lessen any lung/nose problems.
Hopefully this post will help you to understand that the anti-candida protocols recommended here also address many other issues that can also be involved when people have serious candida issues."
05/15/2012: Cindy from Smalltown, Wi replies: "To bill.. Thank you so very much for all the information you have provided. I am getting my protocol together and very anxious to get started. I'm sure it won't be easy or I wouldn't be here to begin with, but I am determined to make this work and greatly appreciate having earth clinic, you, and others to come to for help and support. I have been diagnosed with 25 food sensitivites, so the hardest part will be to avoid them. Also recent loss of my job and a death in the family has resulted in MUCH stress. I will take it one day at a time!"
05/15/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks again Bill for another very detailed response. I'll just go with the 500 mcg dosage(2x daily) of molybdenum. I'll also get some MoM to help with the flushing of toxins out of the body. I already drink tons(80-100oz) of purified water daily along with 2-3 glasses of green tea. I do mix in a cup or two of herbal teas and 1/2 glass of organic kefir as well on a daily basis.
Thanks for the additional information on niacin & iodine for my blood pressure issues. I started taking niacin(500 mg, 2x daily) yesterday. I have started with a total of 8 drops of iodine in the beginning protocol. Probably later this week I'll increase to the 16 drops dosage.
I know you said previously that higher doses of iodine would help with my prostate issues as well. BTW, I didn't get the Lugol's Iodine solution. I got another brand name from a local health food store. It wasn't a cheap brand either.
One other thing, I've lost around 20 pounds since late January. That's even with me eating 3 meals per day along with one snack meal most days. The candida must be causing nutrient deficieny/malabsorption. It's not been a rapid weight loss at all but a slow progression of weight loss.
I assume once I get this candida under control my weight will begin to increase again. I weigh 155lbs. Right now but was around 175 before getting really sick. I'll post back in a few days with my progress. Thanks again for your kind help!"
05/15/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Bill, I forgot to ask you something about another condition I have. I contracted genital herpes back in 1994. I've never been on any prescription meds for this condition. Up until last year, my outbreaks were 1-3 per year. Last year, I had 6 outbreaks that were worse & this was another sign my immune system was weakened.
I've looked at some of the remedies for genital herpes but don't know what I should do while on this candida protocol in which I take lots of different things anyhow. I used to take L-Lysine at times for genital herpes but it upset my stomach most of the time.
I noticed the Olive Leaf treatment along with the zinc supplemention. Which method(s) should I go to try & cure my genital herpes as well? I'm sure my genital herpes has played a role as well in the current condition of my body. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated Bill! Thanks again!"
05/15/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... I think the protocol you are on is a good one. The best thing is just to settle into the protocol and see how you progress. In answer to some of your remarks:
BTW, I didn't get the Lugol's Iodine solution. I got another brand name from a local health food store. It wasn't a cheap brand either.
My guess is that you bought the nascent or magnescent iodine form. This is OK, but I don't think these forms are as good as Lugol's Iodine. Lugol's Iodine contains Potassium Iodide(KI), molecular iodine(I2)and water. KI is an anti-oxidant and molecular iodine is a pro-oxidant and so the iodide/iodine mixture reacts towards an equilibrium state this way:
Iodide plus iodine ==>Triiodide
I - plus I2 ==> I3-
So Lugol's contains the iodide, molecular iodine and triiodide forms -- three forms of iodine which are all individually very useful. However, nascent and magnescent forms contain just contain the triiodide form -- which is why they are not as good as lugol's. For instance the nascent and magnascent forms will not be able to chelate cadmium, aluminium, lead, mercury, arsenic etc like the lugol's form. But the nascent form is certainly the most bio-available form of iodine and is absorbed very quickly into the body. I don't think this is such a b ig deal though -- since you are already using green tea, chlorella etc to remove the heavy metals in your body anyway.
One other thing, I've lost around 20 pounds since late January
My experience is that there are two identifiable physical stages to systemic candida -- and they are confusing. First there is the gaining weight stage which is caused by metabolic upsets and poor fat handling which, in turn, may be caused by the candida and associated bacteria. Second is the rapid weight loss stage -- which may be caused by digestive problems and acid body. Candida aflatoxins make the body acid and when this reaches a certain stage -- and the body cannot cope using its normal homeostasis mechanisms in support of healthy pH levles -- the body then reverts to stealing protein from the tissues and stealing calcium from the bones to help alkalize the blood to maintain the body's proper pH support levels. Hence the rapid weight loss. So amino acids(proteins) are robbed from the tissues and converted to ammonia and calcium is stolen from the bones to also help alkalize the body. This body wasting is a dangerous problem stage in candida because the body obviously cannot do this forever. It is therefore imperative and a priority that you do the following.
* Alkalize, alkalize, alkalize!! You must use both the lime/lemon or ACV remedies as well as the BS and water remedy.
* Take betaine hydrochloride tablets and pancreatin enzymes (with bile is OK) at mealtimes to address any digestion issues.
* Use the Milk of Magnesia as a laxative as I have already advised. This will remove the candida biofilms quickly and will therefore help to make intestinal digestion and absorption of nutrients more efficient.
* Eat more proteins in the form of white meat like chicken or fish. You must increase your protein intake. Or, if you prefer, you can buy Branched Chain Amino Acids (BCAA) from a weight training shop or health shop and increase your protein intake that way."
05/16/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... Regarding your genital herpes problems, I would try following any one of Ted from Bangkok's remedies which are given here:
You can also additionally try taking any of these herbs -- olive leaf, sabah snake grass, yakeow and andrographis peniculata as Ted recommends for genital herpes.
These protocols will not interfer with your candida protocols."
05/16/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Forgot to add that the reason why lysine upsets your stomach is probably because of your digestive problems with proteins -- which is one more reason why you should definitely supplement betaine hydrochloride with pancreatin to assist with your insufficient digestion problems."
05/16/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks again Bill for your timely response. I did input additional information & questions in my previous reply that you must have missed/overlooked. It's about treating/curing genital herpes that I've had since 1994.
I've been using the lemon w/baking soda remedy twice daily. I've mixed in the remedy for swollen lymph nodes at a 1/2 tsp. Baking soda & 1/2 tsp. Sea salt mixture once daily as well. With the lemon/baking soda remedy, I also use 1 tbsp. Of organic ACV. Is it okay to mix the ACV with that lemon/baking soda remedy?
I do this morning & night & the lymph node remedy during the day. I've checked my PH levels the past couple days. It's been around 6.0-6.5 from both saliva & urine levels. That's a bit acidic! However, I started the alkalizing remedies last Tuesday so I probably was more acidic 1 week ago.
I did buy the MoM to help with the removal of biofilms & to aid in digestion. I'll take it once a week to start. I do eat meat quite a bit anyhow. I do only eat organic meats though. I eat turkey, chicken, fish, 100% grass fed beef, and organic lunch meats as well. I rarely eat pork but if I do it's organic as well. We buy 80%-90% of our foods organic.
Please go back & address the question I asked about my genital herpes. I submitted it after my initial previous reply. It may have been added to that reply after your latest reply back to me. Thanks again Bill & have a great day!"
05/18/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks again Bill. We bumped heads a little in our previous replies. I did get your reply about curing/treating genital herpes. I think I'll go with the L-Lysine/Vit C/antiviral herbal remedy for trying to knock this out of my system. I'm going to use Olive Leaf extract as the antiviral herb since I already have that herb on hand.
Are we supposed to take this method of treatment on an empty stomach? Ted didn't explain that from the links you provided me. Since it's taken every hour for 4 hours twice daily for 2-3 days I assume it's okay to do at least one dosage with or after a meal. It would seem hard to do this without eating in between the dosages.
One other important thing I want to ask you. I'ved been suffering from a pain/ache in the back of my head & neck for about 4 weeks as well. My wife says it's part of the panic/anxiety attacks. It's like somebody has stretched a small rubber band around my head. The pain/ache is not really bothering the front of my head like a normal headache.
Now, it does bother the front of my head when laying down. It's like a pressue being put on my head when laying down. I take melatonin at night for sleep & it has helped. I've had 2 CT scans of the head & neck. I also had an MRI of my spine. I was told nothing showed up. I checked my medical records & the only thing showing up is a cyst under my tongue which has been there for years & years.
My head feels like a huge bowling ball. It's like I can't hold it up at times. It's a constant ache/pain that doesn't go away. It's worse as the day goes on. I think this just might be part of the candida overgrowth & it's now gotten into my brain or just all of the tense/stress in my life is playing a part. What is your opinion on this? I'm on a waiting list to see a neurologist but that may be a while. I don't trust doctors anyhow! Thanks again for your time! Have a great day & God Bless!"
05/19/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... As you say, I think that you are taking enough anti-virals from the VitC/Lysine, Olive Leaf and Chanca Piedra. Chanca piedra should also help thin your blood because it lowers blood sugar and lowers fats in the blood and is also a calcium channel blocker. It also strikes me that perhaps there might be excess calcium in your diet too because excess calcium is always involved in cyst, stone and arterial plaque formation in the body. So, as the Anti-Candida Diet stipulates -- just give up dairy for a while. Excess sugar in the diet is another bad one. This will have beneficial effects against the herpes the cyst under your tongue.
Are we supposed to take this method of treatment on an empty stomach?
You should always take lysine vit c etc outside mealtimes simply because more of these nutrients will absorbed into the body than at mealtimes. Vitamin C should always be taken in its Ascorbate form(as sodium ascorbate) because that is its post-digested form ie when you take the Ascorbic Acid form of vit c -- it must first be digested to the ascorbate form(more alkaline) by the body before absorpton into the blood from the intestines. And if you take vit c and lysine at mealtimes then approximately one third of your dosage will be excreted and lost (according to Linus Pauling's research on vit c).
So better to take the vit c(as ascorbate) and lysine outside mealtimes.
I've been suffering from a pain/ache in the back of my head & neck for about 4 weeks as well. My wife says it's part of the panic/anxiety attacks.
This could be caused by a high calcium or low magnesium diet. Best thing would be for you to increase you magnesium dosage for a while. In the Anti-Candida Protocol it stipulates that you should take 250 mgs twice a day. In your case, with your tissue pain and headache problems, you should increase the magnesium dosage to 500 mgs twice a day and take this dosage for about a week then revert back to the normal dosage. The worst that can happen is that, at the higher dosage, your stools might become loose because of any excess magnesium. Magnesium helps to properly regulate calcium in the cells. If there is excess calcium in the body, this can calcify the mitochondria in the cells and cause pain. Magnesium gets rid of this excess calcium. Magnesium is also involved in the relaxation of muscles whereas calcium governs the tensing of muscles. Magnesium also helped to get rid of my own insomnia problems 5 years ago.
To help you relax in general, you should also be taking the B50 complex(one tab per day) with higher dose B3 as niacin from the anti-candida protocol. Take 500 mgs B3 at mealtimes 3 times a day. This will open up your peripheral arteries and veins(flushing and blushing effect of niacin) and will help with proper delivery of nutrients to the brain. Higher dose B3 also has many other beneficial effects as well -- increases your energy levels, anti-candida, relaxes you, lowers cholesterol safely and also helps to cure depression."
05/19/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks again Bill for your very timely response. I'll take your suggestions & use them in my complete protocol for candida & genital herpes. I do have a lot of stuff to treat. I'll post back soon with an update on my health situation. I'm already seeing some improvement from the candida protocol you kindly provided me. Thanks again & take care!"
06/06/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... I replied to your questions on Life-Flo iodine on 06/03/2012 in this stream. Because you are having such bad detox and die-off reactions I suggested that you should initially concentrate on just detoxing your body of heavy metals, halides etc for a month while taking a minimal but bearable dose of the Life-Flo iodine. Have a look at the post that I've just mentioned for the rest.
It seems that everything you are taking to fight what is wrong with you are having significant detox and die-off effects. So I will leave it up to you as to the amounts you take which will make these protocols more bearable. But bear in mind that the healing and eradication of the candida etc will probably take a little longer because of this change.
Regarding your rapid weight loss -- this is a priority. This could be a combination of digestion problems, malabsorption issues and body acidity problems. It could also be due to parasites(get yourself checked). So it's very important for you to constantly use the alkalizing remedies to neutralize the acidity in your body. Ensure also that you are taking bromelain as well as protease or pancreatin enzymes at every meal to support your digestion. The way to find the right dose with bromelain is to up the bromelain by one tablet every meal until you feel it is too acid -- then cut back by one tablet and keep it at that. Over time, when your digestion heals, your will get an acid feeling again -- cut back by another bromelain tablet. Do it like this until you no longer have to take the bromelain.
Regarding the VCO, this is up to you. On the one hand it does kill pathogens and can also help you lose weight and I know you want to stop losing weight.
The fact that your body can't handle the lysine indicates that you problably have some other sort of virus or bacteria involved with your problems as well. If you can, keep taking the lysine. By the way, herpes is one of the conditions that can be associated with candida.
If you can you should try to settle into a protocol using dosages that make the protocol bearable for you. For now, try to stop worrying so much and concentrate on detoxing your body first for at least a month. Then add higher dosages of the candida attack remedies -- such as iodine -- later. It's also quite important not to stress yourself with your protocol. Just take it step by step and you will get there."
06/07/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks for the reply back Bill. I think we're mixed up on the iodine thingy. I provided a link to a different iodine supplement that I want to try after I use what I have (Life-Flo) up. It's nothing to do with the Life-Flo product we already discussed. Maybe this part I added was from a different date. Nope! I went back & looked & I posted it on 06-03-12. I remember I added to a post I had already submitted on the same day.
Anyhow, here's the link to the iodine product below:
I can get this product locally as well to avoid bothering with purchasing anything online right now. I still have a few days left of the Life-Flo but will need another iodine supplement soon. I did mention in the post on 06-03-12 that I can't get the Lugol's locally.
So, I'm supposed to be taking the bromelain with every meal? I've only been taking it once a day between a meal. Usually after lunch time around 2 PM. I'll now go with 1 tablet with each meal & increase accordingly. BTW, how do I know it will be too acid?
I'll continue the VCO at 1 tsp. Per meal. That's what I had settled on in the past week.
I think possibly the herpes has also gotten into my central nervous system & not just attacking the genitals. Like you said, this is probably all due to the candida overgrowth problem. Candida is what looks to be the 'root of all of my health issues'. I'll continue the L-Lysine at 1000 mg daily. Do you think I should gradually increase the dosage or just keep it at 1000 mg daily?
I wouldn't say that I'm actually worried. I would call it concerned. As a man of faith, I'm not supposed to worry. Faithful people are supposed to leave worry in God's hands. I have to admit & it's human nature that it's tough! I'm just trying to stay focused! I could stop everything that I'm doing in regards to treatment & let God handle it all.
I just know that prescription meds I will not go. God intended for us to use natural sources to cure & treat all sorts of diseases & illnesses. That's what I'm trying to do here! Thanks for your time again Bill & have a blessed day!"
06/07/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... The Tri-Iodine seems to deliver 12.5 mgs of iodine to the body so this should be OK. Use one pill a day or whatever you can supplement without problems and when your detox and die-off symptoms eventually decrease and reduce -- you can increase this iodine dosage to 50 mgs per day or four pills a day.
Betaine should always be taken at mealtimes together with pancreatin if you have digestion problems because digestion problems are normally caused by low levels of stomach acid. If your stomach acid strength or secretion is too low then the pancreatic enzymes will not be triggered and so when the food eventually reaches the duodenum for main stage digestion there will be no pancreatic digestive enzymes to digest the food and it will just sit their rotting, stagnating and breeding bad bacteria. This helps the candida to spread. Taking the pancreatin will also aid in the adequate digestion and delivery of nutrients throughout the body in the proper form and will also help to stop your rapid weight loss."
06/08/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Hello again Bill! I'll buy this particular iodine brand locally & start it at 12.5 mg dosage daily & then increase from there. You mention Betaine! I think you meant bromelain in my situation. I'm using bromelain as one of my digestive enzymes. However, I have considered using Betaine HCL as well. It seems like a very good aid for digestion issues. Should I start taking it with my digestive problems?
I loved the way you've just explained digestion problems. I do believe food is rotting in my duodenum. I had actual evidence of that from my endoscopy. On the duodenum part, the words excessive mucosa was written there several times. It was all over the entire endoscopy report as I have stated before.
The only digestion aid I'm taking right now is the bromelain. I was taking Papaya(6 chewables daily) as well but once the bottle ran out I haven't bought anymore. I do have a bottle of super enzymes w/probiotics but I don't remember what type of substances are in that bottle. I know it's not out of date but I did buy it late last year. I believe it had an expiration date in 2013.
I took them for a short period of time. I stopped but have no idea as to why. I will get them back out of the closet & see what's in that product. Maybe it has pancreatin. I really can't remember. I know it has quite a few digestive aids. I will take this along with the bromelain. My new multi-vitamin also has some bromelain(2000 GDU/g) at 50 mg. That's at a dosage of 8 tablets from my multi though. I take 4 in the morning & 4 in the late evening.
I definitely want this weight loss to stop. I've stabilized in the past week though. I'm not gaining any weight but not losing anymore either. My current weight is at 155 lbs. & I'm 5' 10" tall. I do eat 3 meals daily. I don't snack in between meals on most days. It's hard to snack in between meals when you're on this candida protocol. Especially, with the supplements/remedies we need to take on an empty stomach. Thanks again Bill for your time! God Bless!"
06/08/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Bill, I found the digestive formula & I need a little assistance with it. It has pancreatin, bromelain, betaine hcl & several other digestive enzymes. The dosage is to take 3 tablets after each meal.
I already have a separate bromelain supplement as well as bromelain in my multi-vitamin. The formula has 100 mg pancreatin per 3 tablets. It has 100 mg Betaine HCL per 3 tablets. It has 25 mg bromlain per 3 tablets as well as other digestive enzymes. I'm trying to make sure I'm not getting too much of these digestive enzymes.
If I take the 3 tablets from the formula with each meal(total of 9) as well as the bromelain from the stand-alone supplement(1 with each meal) & my multi I would be at a total of 1370 mg daily. Would that be too much bromelain? I assume not since you said I could even increase the dosage of bromelain until I reached a maximum level without acid.
This digestive enzyme formula appears to have quite a few substances. It even has Ox Bile & Papaya as well. There are no artificial anything including preservatives and no binders or fillers. Let me know how I should combine taking these supplements. Digestion is playing a major role in my health situation so I need to do as much as possible to get my intestinal issues under control. This will go a long way into me beginning to heal under the candida protocol. Thanks & sorry for adding this so soon after my initial reply."
06/08/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... I think that you are getting a little mixed up. Bromelain is not the same as Betaine Hydrochloride. Bromelain is a protease enzyme derived from the stem of the pineapple. Betaine Hydrochloride or Trimethylglycine Hydrochloride is taken to boost the hydrochloric acid levels in your stomach which are, at the moment, lacking and defficient -- and this is adversely affecting your digestion and helping to promote acid intestines and candida as I've already described.
The reason that I recommended either serrapeptase or bromelain enzymes was mainly to digest and get rid of the excess mucus and biofilms in your intestines. Bromelain enzyme can be taken with or without meals.
The reason I recommended the Betaine was because of your digestion problems and lack of Hydrochloric Acid in your stomach. Betaine Hydrochloride should always be taken at mealtimes.
Because you are using such a different mix of betaine pills that contain other things -- I cannot really recommend dosages. But I have described how to up your dosages with one or other of the brand of pills that you use.
A good example of how to use betaine is shown in the post just below your last post -- called BETAINE HCL ELIMINATED ACID REFLUX AND SLEEP APNEA. Here the woman cured her own reflux (digestion problems) and apnea by taking 20 tablets of betaine a day(because of her lack of stomach acid). She did this and it cured both her apnea and her reflux. She wasn't taking "the recomended dose" -- she found her own proper dose by taking and increasing the betaine dosage until she got an acid feeling(too much betaine) and then cut back by one or two tablets. This is the proper way to use betaine if you are lacking in stomach acid. This is also why I cannot recommend a dosage for betaine -- because you will have to find the proper dose yourself as I have already described.
The reason you need to take Betaine is to up the strength of HCl in your stomach. At the moment your stomach acid strength is probably too weak. As I've already said, if the stomach acid remains too weak then duodenal enzymes from the pancreas will not be triggered and so the food will remain undigested which creates acid intestine, further pathogen spread and greatly promotes candida as well."
06/08/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Hey again Bill! I knew that bromelain wasn't the same thing as Betaine HCL. I'd read about this supplement right here at EC before.
I don't currently have Betaine HCL as a separate supplement. Like I said, I do have it in this digestive formula. It's in a small dosage though at 100 mg per 3 tablets since there are enzymes & probiotics as well in this formula.
I think what I'll do is just take extra dosages of this enzyme formula. I'm not wanting to fool with making another trip to the health food store(s) anytime soon. I've been back & forth enough in the past 4 weeks to pick up supplements & foods.
I think taking a few extra doses(tablets) of this formula along with the stand-alone bromelain supplement dosage of at least 1 tablet with each meal will get the job done for my digestive issues.
Of course, I'll continue with all of the other supplements & remedies as well for the candida protocol. I don't think I'll be going with the 20 tablets that the member here at EC used for her case of acid reflux & sleep apnea. I don't have a stand-alone betaine hcl supplement on hand right now anyhow.
BTW, I've started to feel somewhat better in the past couple days. Let's hope & pray the die-off symptoms are beginning to fade away a bit. Starting this coming Sunday I will be in my 5th week of the protocol but only my 4th week with your recommended suggestions for my individual case. Remember, my 1st week was strictly the lemon/baking soda/H2O & baking soda/H20 remedies. I've been alternating the remedies.
I start my day out with the lemon one always. Sometimes, I go with my 2nd & 3rd as just the baking soda & H20. Other times, I do the lemon one twice daily. Does it really matter? I'm using these remedies a total of 3 times daily anyhow. I want to thank you for your kind help & appreciate everything you're doing for me & others here at EC. I'll post back again soon with an update on my situation. God Bless!"
06/09/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Sorry to post back before allowing you to Bill. I forgot to ask you a few more questions. Yes, I have more questions for ya! Imagine that! Ha!
My first question pertains to using niacin. I do have the nicotinic acid form of niacin but it's a 'prolonged' release form of it. I've read a couple of long articles about niacin recently. I'm a little concerned about the form of prolonged release that I'm using.
The articles suggest even lower dosages(as little as 500 mg) of the extended or prolonged form of niacin can cause liver damage in a short period of time. I've already been diagnosed with fatty liver(NAFL). Neither article states how short of a timeframe though. I know you suggested for me to take the nicain 500 mg at 3x daily for my issues. I was to do this for 1 week & then cut back to the normal dosage of 500 mg twice daily. I'm taking the liver support supplements anyhow so probably not that big of a deal.
I didn't take the 500 mg 3x daily but for a couple days due to all of the die-off symptoms I was having. I started back at the dosage of 500 mg 3x daily yesterday. I hadn't experienced the 'niacin flush' at all until late yesterday. I have to say it scared me to death. It's been 3 weeks since I started taking the niacin. I had forgotten about possibly getting the flushing effect.
It took me a few minutes to even realize what was happening. My skin turned red like a sunburn & my arms & back itched & burned for over 30 minutes. It finally hit me that I was just now receiving the flushing from niacin. That let me know that it's working. However, why such a delay for me? I thought it would have happened sooner. I always take it just after a meal.
Another thing I've noticed in the past 7-10 days. I'm having 2-3 stools daily during this timeframe. Each time I go I'm having a lot of waste being released from my body. My stool color seems to be normal at a light-medium brown. However, each one is a pretty loose stool. No diarrhea at all but just a loose stool that's easy to get out.
I'm also noticing a tingling/chilling sensation when I'm releasing these stools. Not like the panic attack symptoms that I was having at night. Those have subsided to nearly being totally gone. This is just happening when I'm going to the bathroom to release stools. What might that be? Is it just part of the cleansing process that's going on in my body?
I'm also going to the bathroom to urinate even more recently. As you know, because I've told you, I have prostatitis. Going to the bathroom a lot isn't new to me. However, I seem to be going even more in the past week . I go 2-3 times nightly & 10-15 times daily. Now, I do drink 80-100 oz. of purified water daily & 2-3 cups of green tea daily as well.
I should be going quite a bit with that amount of liquid intake. I just seem to be going more recently though. Is this also part of the cleansing process? I'm taking the iodine which should help with the prostatitis & also take saw palmetto as well at night before bed. Thanks again for your time Bill & have a great day!"
06/10/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... I recommend B3 or niacin or niacinamide (non-flush form of B3) in larger dose for many reasons. Inositol Hexanicotinate is the slow release from. It was Dr Abram Hoffer who advocated proper higher dosages of B3 in his psychiatric and medical work. He found that niacin could cure schizophrenia and depression at higher dosages. He also found that niacin had particular beneficial effects against arthritis and heart disease. See these links:
I also use niacin for candida problems because it stimulates appetite, energizes but relaxes the body and also helps to kill candida -- but only in larger, orthomolecular (or proper) dosages. Higher dose niacin should always be taken with B complex which acts as a synergist to this vitamin.
Your stools seem normal enough to me. Your intestines will take some time to become clear of all the mucus and biofims etc and I'm not so surprised that you are urinating more -- probably because you are drinking more water.
Your prostatitis problem should also reduce because of the larger dose iodine you are taking. Lugol's iodine, when supplemented in larger doses, tends to stop or prevent cysts. This is why it not only has beneficial effects against prostatitis -- but is also a remedy for uterine fibroids and fibrocystic breast disease in women and these cyst problems are all simply as a result of too little iodine in the diet."
06/10/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Hey Bill! Thanks for replying back to me as always. I actually have a niacin supplement in the form of nicotinic acid that's prolonged release. It's the actual store brand name of the health food store I purchase most of our foods & supplements. I'm taking it at a dosage of 500 mg twice daily(1000 mg total) right now.
You told me to take it at 500 mg 3x daily but I cut back to the normal dosage a couple weeks back. Is it okay to do the 500 mg 3x daily now? You say to take the niacin with a B Complex & I'm taking a B Complex once daily but I don't take it with both doses of the niacin. I think you said to take the B Complex only once daily. Please clear this up for me.
Since I'm using such a low dose of the iodine I currently have I don't think it's doing much for the prostatitis. Remember, this particular iodine supplement is a much much lower concentration than the Lugol's. I don't think this one at 16 drops daily is providing too much for me. You said it should help with the thyriod but I don't know how to tell it's doing anything.
BTW, I just started using the Borax(20 Team Mule brand) today. I was holding off on using this because of my die-off symptoms. Today hasn't been too good of a day for me. I had a couple decent days but not the same today. I know there will be ups & downs throughout this candida protocol so I'm trying to stay positive.
I'm now in my 5th week of the protocol with very little improvement. Man, all of this stuff I'm taking & doing makes you think you're putting too much stuff into your body. I have several bottles of supplements & other things all over the place. It's hard to keep up with to be honest. Thanks again!"
06/12/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... To answer your questions:
Using niacin and B Complex...
Take the B Complex once day. Take the niacin two or three times a day at mealtimes.
Current Iodine Dosage...
I would certainly agree with you that the type of iodine you are using isn't very useful and that the delivered dosage of body iodine is tiny. I've worked out that 16 drops a day of Life-Flo iodine (at 50 microgams a drop) is equal to about 0.8 mgs a day. I have recommended between 50 mgs and 100 mgs of iodine a day to kill the candida. I would also agree with you that the low dosage of iodine that you are taking probably isn't helping the prostatitis that much.
Borax will also cause die-off and detox reactions and symptoms because borax kills candida and also helps to remove fluorine from the body.
In the early 1950s, Dr Orian Truss has related how he cured a skeletal man who was obviously dying from systemic candida because of the effects of the Antibiotic Syndrome. He started giving the man high dosages(similar to what I have recommended for you) of lugols iodine. He cured this man of candida in about 6 weeks.
Food and water was much more natural in the 1950s, our food supply was not as polluted and tainted then as it is now. Therefore to cure someone of serious systemic candidiasis (with all its other associated pathogenic problems) today becomes much more complex and difficult. People's diets, for decades now, have been poor, nutrient lacking and even poisonous to the body. But people also believe their doctors and take alot of antibiotics and medical drugs on a regular basis. More body pollution. Our drinking water is also very unhealthy. This is why there has been such an upsurge in auto-immune diseases like candida over the last few decades."
06/12/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, USA replies: "Thanks Bill! Current Iodine Dosage...
I'll be getting the iodine (Tri-iodide) supplement pretty soon. That should help me even more with the candida cleanse. I'll start out at 12. 5 mg 4X daily. My multi aslo has iodine(from kelp) but at only 200 mcg though.
"Using Borax... "
That's why I decided to wait a few weeks before starting the borax. I started the borax this past Sunday at 1/4 tsp. Per 20 oz. Bottle of purified water. I thought this would be an awful taste but you can't really taste the borax too much. I'm sipping on this throughout the day.
[Quote from Bill] "Food and water was much more natural in the 1950s, our food supply was not as polluted and tainted then as it is now. Therefore to cure someone of serious systemic candidiasis (with all its other associated pathogenic problems) today becomes much more complex and difficult. People's diets, for decades now, have been poor, nutrient lacking and even poisonous to the body. But people also believe their doctors and take alot of antibiotics and medical drugs on a regular basis. More body pollution. Our drinking water is also very unhealthy. This is why there has been such an upsurge in auto-immune diseases like candida over the last few decades."
Believe it or not, I started eating healthy back in 2008 once I had the prostatitis scare. I rarely eat fast food & have eaten mostly organic foods since 2008. I guess my body was already overgrown with candida & it was too late to eat healthier.
That's why I'm in the current condition. I'm learning techniques & through prayer to deal with stress. That's played a major major role in my sickness. I also believe the enormous amount of stress has led to my digestive issues & hence low stomach acid & panic attacks/anxiety.
BTW, I tried the bromelain stomach acid test. I got up to 6 tablets & had to stop. I was getting really nauseated. At 6 tablets I still hadn't felt the acid/warm feeling from the stomach. I'm just gonna take around 2-3 tablets with each meal for a while.
I'm already taking enough stuff. Add to that the detox/die-off reaction that's still going on so I don't need anymore burden. This really makes you wonder if things will ever take a turn for the better. It makes me wanna stop everything at times. But, I know stopping will only delay my healing. Thanks again!"
06/14/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks for the reply Tracy from Wyoming. Believe it or not, I started using the epsom salt & baking soda baths this week. I'm trying numerous things to release toxins & help with this detox/die-off effects. I have seen small improvements since starting this candida protocol about 5 weeks ago. I know it's not going to be a cakewalk either!
My body is eaten up with candida overgrowth. It's gonna take some time to clean myself out. I read an article which suggest for every year that you have suffered from candida overgrowth it takes approximately one month for each year to recover. An example would be 10 years of suffering would be 10 months for recovery. That may be stretching it a little but it's probably a good estimate. You have to factor in overall health & what things you do to get rid of it too.
I don't know how long I've had a candida problem but my first signs would date back to 1996 in which I first started seeing a white-coated tongue. I think it's gotten really bad since 2008. That's when I was diagnosed with prostatitis. So, you can say for the past 4 years for sure in which the candida has spread. I'd be willing to bet that the overgrowth has spread into most of my tissue/organs. I have way too many symptoms for the candida not to have spread.
The next portion of my reply is directed towards Bill.
For the past 3-4 days, I've been itching pretty bad. I'll get a 20-30 minute spell & then it goes away. This happens 4 times per day. I received my first niacin flush a few days ago. I don't think this is related to the niacin flush but I'm not totally sure. I did itch badly the first time I had the niacin flush. My skin doesn't turn red or a burning sensation. Could this be a part of the healing crisis that's going on or is this still part of the niacin flsuh?
Also, I want to ask you about the chlorella. As you know, I've been doing the chlorella every other day due to die-off symptoms. I'm going to start using the chlorella daily. The dosage(powdered) I'm on now is only 2 tsp. & remember that's taken at 2 tsp. every other day.
I want to start taking the chlorella at 3 tsp. Daily with each meal which would be a total of 9 grams of the brand (NOW Organic Chlorella) I have available. I've read that 10 grams is the dosage for treating health issues/conditions while 5 grams is the maintenance dosage.
I'm trying to avoid too much because of the die-off reaction. It's been bad enough for me! I'm taking lots of stuff already. Maybe I should just up the chlorella dosage to 2 tsp. Daily for a week or so first & then go to 3 tsp. Daily. What's your opinion on this?
I've also been suffering from dizziness/lightheadness more in the past 2-3 days. Especially when I try to get up from laying/sitting. I have to stand up slowly & wait for a few seconds before walking. I feel like I'm going to pass out when I do this too fast. What might be causing this? Is there anything I can do/take to help with this problem? I know you said to take extra niacin & magnesium for the pains/aches in my neck & head. Thanks again Bill!"
06/15/2012: Karina from Munich replies: "You are so lucky that you found the cause - I needed as well nearly 10years to find out that all my 'unrelated symptoms' were caused by candida. However, you will be so happy once it is gone. I hope you looked already into proper food combining and leaving out all sugars/grains (use a good stevia to replace sugar)? Especially fresh lemon juice - gets one out of the brain fog in the morning. After that use a green juice or smoothing in the morning to help the detoxing process.
Additionally, set up 3 colon hydro therapy sessions (or enemas) for the next 3 weeks and then every month once to clear all the bacteria and toxins. I was against all this but my detox symptoms were so bad that I needed to get better without using chemical drugs (check out some information on youtube by eg. Donna Perrone on colonics -she explains it so well and helped me to trust this method- or the books of Natalia Rose to make sure all the dietary changes are taking into account). This made all the difference in my recovery and taught me a lot - I would never miscombine food again for the rest of my life (and this already gave me so much energy back in my life - no wonder I felt so tired before). Use a good probiotic to set up the new bacteria but stay away from dairy as much as possible in that phase. Furthermore, there are some brands which use an 'enzyme based' formula to clear out candida - it produces no die off symptoms and I would definitely recommend this as well. With the healing crisis - remember your body is getting rid of so much toxic matter - help all the organs either colon with enemas, or infrared saunas - saunas in general - everything to get skin, lungs, kidney and colon clean. As soon as you support this detoxing process - nature moves in and regenerates!
Wishing you so much luck and hopefully some of the above help you to recover to a new life!"
06/15/2012: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Tony... If your itching only lasts for 20 minutes -- this is quite natural when you get the niacin flush and should be nothing to worry about.
Regarding your dosages of chlorella and iodine -- you can take both of these nutrients at he same time with water without problems. The best way to take the dosages is to take them at smaller dosages and at a greater frequency -- rather than taking the dose as one single hit per day as this can cause problems too. So, just take the chlorella together with your lugol's iodine dosage together outside mealtimes. Take four smaller dosages a day, for example, like this:
1/2 tspn chlorella X 4 times a day(increasing the dosage as your like)
Add 1 Iodoral the first day, then add another iodoral tablet(taken at a different time) the next day and increase like this until you are taking at least 1 iodoral tablet 4 times a day(at diferent times) together with the chlorella and water. Doing it like this helps to helps to deliver smaller but more manageable and effective dosages of chlorella and Iodoral that last throughout the day and every day.
I will also be traveling tomorrow for about a week so I'm not sure how well I will be able to keep in touch on EC since the Philippines wifi cover is not so good but I will try and be consistent."
06/15/2012: Tony from Church Hill, Tn, Usa replies: "Thanks again Bill!
I've been using the chlorella only with meals. I read about possible nausea when taking chlorella on an empty stomach. However, I haven't tried taking it on an empty stomach. I guess since I should be taking both the iodine & chlorella on an empty stomach I'll start doing it now.
I'll do as you suggest & take them in 4 separate dosages. Of course, I'll just be starting out with the initial dosage of 12. 5 mg(1 tablet) of the tri-iodine supplement that I bought recently. I'll increase by 1 tablet each day until I'm at a total of 4 which is 50 mg.
By the time I get to 4 tablets I'll just take it the same time as the chlorella dosages outside mealtimes. I don't think I'll go over the 50 mg amount of iodine. I don't see me going up to 100 mg of iodine which is the upper limit from the protocol. I'll just stick with the 50 mg amount.
How do we know it's time to cutback and/or stop taking some of these supplements/remedies? I know you still take the lemon/baking soda remedy along with a mixture of sea salt/baking soda/borax for maintenance purposes. I'll surely be doing something like that myself once I get this under control. I'd just like to know how my body will let me know it's time to quit/cutback on certain supplements/remedies?
I know that I'm probably still quite a way from stopping anything I'm doing right now but I'd like your opinion as to knowing when certain things might be OK to stop/cutback. I certainly don't wanna be taking all of this stuff no longer than needed. I do know that I need all of them right now though. I'm about to go into my 6th week on this protocol.
I do see some improvement but it has been slow & minimal. I'm staying positive though! Thanks & God Bless! BTW, what can I do about my dizziness & lightheadness that I asked about in a prior reply yesterday? Thanks!"
06/24/2012: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe replies: "Lisa, thank you so much for sharing. What you list sounds wonderful! For me, I try to do simple stuff and I've tried lots of the "easy" EC recommendations with varying degrees of success; success being - better skin tone, much relieved rosacea etc.
But it was when I started experimenting with lowering my gluten intake, that I noticed sharper differences for the better. I'm still trying to figure it out more, since I was tested and am not considered gluten-intolerant, but the results I see, seem to say otherwise.
Oh, and my fruits, nuts/seeds, and greens morning smoothie does put me on my feet for the day!
Thanks for your blessings and may it boomerang back to you!"
06/25/2012: Robyn from Sydney, Australia replies: "Tony, Im taking all of this as well less the bromelain, Im taking a few more immune helpers. It seems ACV and mushrooms would be contradictory but I am assured they are not. And their help to the immune system is enormous. But I can't shake it. So maybe its not candida at all. No way to know for sure. I have a thick white coating on toungue, been there for decade but then my liver is no good and Im overridden with viruses. Good luck with your fight. If anyone knows a way for sure to know if you have candida please let me know."
06/25/2012: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa replies: "Hi Mmsg, Somehow, I missed your post back to me. Wow, that is fantastic that you discovered this for yourself! As for the test results, well, what I've learned is that many people are gluten sensitive even if not gluten intolerant and that still leads to issues. I have met people who say that eliminating gluten relieves their body pain even though they are told they are not allergic to gluten.
And I too am always, exploring, discovering and trying various remedies here on EC. And of course, I prefer simple too! Who doesn't? Otherwise, if it's too complex, we give it up. It sounds like your successes are pretty good, too! I'm glad you learn a lot on EC like I do. It's always interesting to hear stories and share experiences and help others...
Have the best day ever, always! Lisa"
04/06/2012: Scarlet from Morgan Hill, Ca: "I am severely anorexic and part of this is due to the fact I can't eat anything it seems like anymore because the candida that started long ago was fed for 10 years by my excessive wine habit. I've had elevated liver enzymes and possible liver disease but no one wants to do a liver biopsy to confirm. But in the mean time I'm starving and crying because the organism in me has been allowed to spread throughout my body. It's everywhere, in my eyes, ears, anal area, digestive tract, etc. I have terrible pains in my abdomen and under my rib cage and can actually feel the critters in me grabbing on to my intestinal lining poking holes in it. I have developed food allergies to things I've never been allergic too, I have terrible sinus congestion (mast cells I assume) dry mouth, intense sweating, thirsty, insomnia, severe muscle wasting and weight loss, and I eat. But I can only eat now meat and vegetables and this diet has been going on for years now. I am severly malnourished. I recently have been trying to eat beans and yogurt. I can't eat cow's or goat's milk yogurt, and now I am allergic to sheep's milk yogurt. I am miserable after eating it.
My husband brought into our home a Vit c supplement and I noticed xylitol was in it... And for whatever reason I can taste sugar in the air... Last year when I went to a liver specialist the doctor walked in and had been chewing some gum and I had some kind of weird reaction to the sugar or chemicals in the gum.. Didn't know what the ingredient was. I am probably not going to be around much longer... I have leaky gut and have autoimmune liver, my doctor thinks. He tries to get me vitamins which I react to... So I can't take any... Even IV's and IM's cause much pain in the liver. I have read that yeast/fungal infections a person shouldn't be taking B vitamins as there's yeast in them and can cause much pain when taking in the abdomen. I am at my wits end and don't know what to do to help myself other than trying to do distilled water enemas and take distilled aloe vera to try and heal the damaged intestinal lining. I do have Blastocystis Hominis in my stools ontop of the systemic candida. I am extremely miserable and have no quality of life.... I am alone in this....
Please I need help and don't have a ton of money. I spent over $14,000 dollars last year trying to help myself and have a bag full of vitamins I couldn't take from the Integrative Medicine doctor. The candida in the stomach is so bad that it's causing problems with my digestion and I have high Bun/Creatinine and dehydration. I have had high anion gap blood tests in the past, due to acidosis. Why am I so acidic? Is it because I only eat meat and vegetables and perhaps my flora is so out of whack. I have developed an allergy to garlic but still eat it to knock down the fungus. I also developed an allergy to Nystatin which was building up in my system and caused pain in the liver as I can't seem to get my Liver to detox chemicals/drugs probably due to the drinking in the past (liver damage) and this darn fungal infection that went undiagnosed for 20 years or so. Thank you for your prompt help!"Replies
04/06/2012: Rswuniontown from Uniontown, Oh replies: "Candida is something to be concerned about, but you can overcome this. I believe iodine, olive leaf and oregano oil are all effective for reducing candida. There are several others, like Pau'Arco tea or cream of tartar, but recently a product came to my attention that I have tried and others have commented that they also feel is beneficial. It is called Flora Balance (not sure if I can post this) and contains 1M microorganisms of Bacillus Laterosporus (bod strain). I have no financial interest or any other interest in this, but it is relatively inexpensive ($15) and seems to be helpful. It seems to me, however, that those who have overcome candida have used iodine with a no carb diet. I can tell that you are overwhelmed from not feeling well for so long and trying so many remedies, but if you look at Ted and Bill's advice here,
I know you can become healthy and free from this. You are on the right track and you can do this! We will all be looking for good news from you and many good wishes are with you."
04/07/2012: Timh from Louisville, Ky, Usa replies: "Scarlet, I hope you can get this illness turned around. I am suffering many of the same illness as yourself and my prognosis is also looking dim. To begin, you need to support the liver w/ Milk Thistle, Dandelion, Yellowdock, and St John'sWort for hep. BHT might help for hep. H2O2 drops in daily filtered water as per protocol. Definitely do some type of Colon Cleanse as a contaminated Colon will pollute the entire body. Also for infection Lipospheric or Liposomal Vit-C as needed OR MMS (Miracle Mineral Solution) begin w/ 2 drop dose and work up daily (not at same days as H2O2 therapy). If possible get raw Thymus injections to restore the Thymus & immune system or try oral route. Also there is the likelihood of heavy metal toxicity as per your symptoms so get hair analysis. MMS is touted to rid heavy metals as well as pathogens. Be careful of die-off or herz from any of these therapies. Coffee enemas are very good to help eliminate toxins. Hot baths w/ baking soda, epsom salt and other minerals like Boron should help. Try sublingual coenzymated B vitamins. Liquid Potassium Iodide will also be necessary.
Good luck and let us know of your progress."
04/07/2012: Timh from Louisville, Ky, Usa replies: "Scarlet, I forgot to mention in my previous post one very important mineral to help the Candida infection ---Molybdenum. If Candida isn't bad enough, your body gets loaded w/ it's byproduct ---aldehyde; and aldehyde that doesn't get detoxed can turn into formaldehyde (both of which are highly toxic to liver and all body tissues). NAD (sublingual) or Niacinamide and MolyB will rid your body of these toxic aldehydes (which explains your acidosis and wasting syndrome). Also do Ted's or any alkalizing protocols."
04/11/2012: Lisa from Jacksonville replies: "I am so sorry you are suffering so much. I am praying for you. Research everything on this site and hang on! You can get well. Candida is terrible. Apple Cider Vinegar was one of the things that helped me the most. I have been on the Candida diet almost 2 years now but it is hard. I didn't see too much result until 10 months after I started. Have faith that God will help you."
04/29/2012: Laura from Clovis, Ca replies: "Scarlet, I'm praying for you too. In my own experience, God opened up my eyes to finding this website and Ted's candida free program. I had an upper GI and found out that I had candida in my esophagus and h pylori in my stomach. I found a blog "I'm so happy I have HPylori", so I had already asked my dr to test me for this before the upper GI procedure. Anyway I took antibiotics for the h pylori (tried the natural route but it was taking so long and I was so miserable) and the stool test shows negative for this. Was still having problems and didn't realize how bad your symptoms can be with candida. I thought all my problems were with the h pylori. This all started after I got food poisoning back in November. The doctors kept passing me off from one dr to the next. One dr was concerned wanting to know why I had the candida in my esophagus. Saying that this only happens to people with a severely compromised immune system. But after running all the HIV, diabetes and other blood tests and everything coming back negative, he too, basically passed me off. What I mean by passing me off is that they say either that you are fine or as one doctor told me " You were really sick and it's just going to take your system a while to get better".
Anyway I could go on and on but I think everyone who reads this forum has been through something similar. EC has been a blessing from God for me! So let me tell you what has been working for me since I feel so much better! I only eat veggies, chicken, turkey, fish, (very little red meat), eggs, and brown rice, green tea, ginger tea, Pau d arco tea. I try to eat organic as much as possible. Especially for my meats, fish (wild) and eggs since antibiotics are a huge problem with these. I had been doing all of this for over a month but still was not feeling any relief until this past week when I started Ted's candida program. I was a little leary of the borax solution but after my husband and I researching this more I decided to try it. It took a while to go to 2 different health food stored to buy everything and expensive but I'm so tired of being sick. I had no energy, had lost 25 pounds, severe reactions to smells, and foods, bloating, constant stool changes, pain in abdomen that was getting worse and worse (now that I have read more, I really think that I was developing a leaky gut since someone else remarked that is was a creeping, burrowing feeling and this was my same feeling), problems sleeping, pressure in throat, chest, heart palpitations, chills and on and on. So many random symptoms that I did sound like a hypochondriac. Some of these symptoms had gotten better with getting rid of the h pylori and the no sugar, dairy, gluten free, no coffee, tea, fruit, alcohol (which wasn't a big deal for me since I occasionally have a glass of wine but no sugar was much harder for me! ).
When I started Ted's regimen I noticed a huge difference in just one day. The pain in my abdomen feels like it's slowly going away. I do have an email into Ted... I'm waiting for a response since I have a few questions on the protocol. As soon as I find out I will post them here. But the good news is... I am feeling so much better. Something that I wasn't sure was possible just a month ago. In Psalm 119:71-72 it says "it was good for me to be afflicted so that I might learn your decrees. The law from your mouth is more precious to me than thousands of pieces of silver and gold. ". I would have never agreed that it was good for me to be afflicted but now I'm so much more sensitive to those who are afflicted with illnesses. I have already come in contact with several people who were searching for answers to their symptoms! I have been able to share with them this website, books and my own experience, so I have learned a lot from this whole process too!
Scarlet, I'm sorry this is so long. I wish you and all the others out there to be able to find a regimen and support that will work for you. God bless you!"
05/24/2012: Coco from Paso Robles, Ca replies: "I live not too far from you and I have had many health problems too. I recently spent 5 days in Hawaii. Surprisingly, while there, I felt like a million dollars, not a single symptom! I thought I was cured. When I got home, I started feeling sick again. I just read about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccidioidomycosis and wonder if we can be affected by this fungal infection, brought by the wind in our region. Either way, spent your next $2000 on a vacation far away instead of doctors, it is worth it if it saves your life. I have used Borax and coconut oil for 5 months and my condition has improved tremendously, but when I stop the treatment it worsens. So whatever you do might take months and months, but don't give up!"