Magnesium Benefits and Holistic Cures

I have used Mag Citrate on many occasions. It works, yes, but can be very harsh. Also, if you read the label, it can make your BP skyrocket.

You should try other form of magnesium. Magnesium lactate dihydrate(Mag Tab Sr) might help. It was the most tolerated for me

Take Magnesium Taurate. See an Auricular Medicine Doctor for reassurance. Dr. Carolyn Dean recommends mag. Taurate. I take buffered mag. Taurate. Or, apply Magnesium Oil. This is an excellent alternative bc it bypasses your digestive system and goes to work as soon as it is absorbed through the skin. Tip: make sure skin is slightly moist (warm water) and it will go on smoothly and readily. Good luck. LB

Taurine regulates heartbeat, so if this occurs again for you or anyone else, consider reading up on taurine. Cystine pushes out taurine, so make sure you aren't testing with high cystine levels.

Where can I get the mag chloride product you took?

Legna,

You ask where to get magnesium chloride...

You should be able to get it at any health food store or on line.

Epsom salts is magnesium sulfate. I've used that for A Fib too. I take orally magnesium citrate that an alternative MD got me on. As long as you are getting the magnesium in you I'm not sure I can determine that it really matters the form you receive it. I've asked that very question a number of times on EC but haven't gotten a response ... that is that one form is preferred. I'd love to hear from someone to lay all the different forms of magnesium out to explain what and why one is better than another.

For A Fib I also make sure I'm getting at least 400IUs of natural (NOT synthetic) vitamin E. I take the amino acid arginine also for the heart and general cardio support.

Dave: 100 year old poor peasants living in 3rd world countries make worm casting tea. The man who won a 100 mile race against a horse eats vegetable soup. Apollo won nine gold medals in the winter olympics. He takes colostrum. Ron Teagarden takes fermented adaptogens. They don't take isolates. There are many websites that explain why isolates are not effective, like mini minerals, and fulvic acid is necessary for mineral absorption to name a couple. Some say the molecule is too big and some say because they are inorganic. Gardeners don't put isolates on their plants. They put compost. Nutrients are like a world class symphony. All the musical instruments have to be there in the proper ratio, finely tuned, and with great musicians.

Hey Mike 62,

Thanks for your response to my response to Legna.

Legna had asked where to get Mag Chloride.

I told her and elaborated that there are numerous magnesiums, so the magnesium chloride would not be the only magnesium that would help with A Fib.

Your response was to criticize isolates as opposed to whole foods ... if I understood you correctly. I re-read her question and my response and the issue was very narrow. Your response was not the issue but nonetheless I'll speak to your viewpoint.

Isolated minerals, isolated vitamins, isolated glandular etc are in my opinion highly effected and in high doses often therapeutic and cannot be obtained in a whole food approach. Niacin, for instance, at fairly high levels is an excellent dilator and can be effective in warding off migraines.

Vitamin E (natural) the same for the cardio system.

Mike, I do consume an effective whole green drink and have been a whole food advocate for nearly 40 years and yet...I also use isolates.

Colloidal Silver is an isolate. One has to get it to high enough levels to make it work...so I just don't paint with so broad a brush as to eliminate the effectiveness of particular nutrients. I'm both "old school" and "new school." I'm a pragmatist and will use what works.

Best to you and wish you good health in 2014!!!

It's easy and cheaper to make your own with the ancient minerals crystals. I found the atrial fib came back again when I discontinued using the Mg chloride daily. It's stopped now that I take a quarter tsp daily again.

Magnesium chloride is amazing, it cures much more than just arrhythmia. If your're old and decrepit take Magnesium chloride every day, or Massage it into your skin if you want to absorb more without getting an upset stomach.

I believe Magnesium "Chloride" to be the best commonly used magnesium to use.http://www.health-science-spirit.com/MagChlor.pdf

I understand the body has to manufacture Chloride in order to use the Magnesium. Taking Mg with the chloride already "combined" does away with that need.

They say Magnesium chloride is the most easily assimilated into the body, even though it doesn't have as much magnesium as other varieties.

If you buy a $20 bottle of Mg chloride from the health food store it will last ages, because the most You can take without getting an upset stomach is a quarter tsp a day. Using the Magnesium bath salts (which is Mg chloride) allows you to make any strength you like, and also be able to massage large amounts it into your body without getting an upset stomach.

I believe this Magnesium Chloride has amazing benefits that people won't believe. If you have ANY of the common old age afflictions, Memory, bones, etc. Try Magnesium Chloride. if your diet isn't supplying enough magnesium (and you don't even know if it isn't, blood tests don't pick it up) you might be amazed. I am not exaggerating.

Hello Mike,

I think you meant Epsom salts is "magnesium sulfate".... and I sure agree with you about the benefits of Magnesium. In my experience Magnesium deficiency is directly related to many issues such as rapid and irregular heart beat. It is the King of minerals.d

Yes, I should have said the (Ancient minerals Magnesium crystals) are Mg chloride.

Hello, Mike I went out and bought the magnesium citrate and I have been having an upset stomach because I think I take too much, however it seems to work well with helping me digest. It feels better once I go to the bathroom because I feel lighter every time and never had that relief however it wreaks havoc on my stomach. I'm thinking of lowering the dosage and take it once a day. I almost will accept the upset stomach because I am having bowel movements more than once a day, any thoughts?

Hi Marie...Try buying plain old magnesium oil and just use it transdermally. You can apply magnesium oil directly onto your skin and at least 60% of it will be absorbed directly into the blood. This is a wonderfully easy delivery method to get magnesium into your body. You can even add a cup of magnesium chloride crystals to your bath water and it will be readily absorbed into the body.

Magnesium oil is just 70% magnesium chloride dissolved in 30% water. My own view is that magnesium chloride is, without doubt, the best form of magnesium to use because even doctors administer it to ER for patients by IV who have just had a heart attack. And it works like magic to take the strain off the heart.

You should be able to buy magnesium oil easily from internet vendors and from health stores.

Also, because you are taking the mag oil transdermally and not ingesting it, your digestion will not be disturbed. I also think that, because magnesium chloride is not so alkaline as magnesium citrate and when ingested, the mag oil will not cause problems with digestion as does magnesium citrate. Indeed, I think that you will find that magnesium oil actually helps your digestion because of its chloride content. The normal dose of mag oil with water is 10 drops twice a day with meals.

And as Mike has also mentioned, Ancient Minerals brand is a good one to use.

When I had heart heart arrythmias and dizziness some years ago, it was the combination of magnesium oil together with lugols iodine that cured that problem for me. That's because I was deficient in both magnesium and iodine in my own diet. I take magnesium chloride and lugols iodine now on a daily basis and haven't suffered any arrythmias, dizziness or any other heart problems in the last 8 years and I'm 65 y o. Even just taking kelp extract(contains iodine) together with the magnesium every day would probably help you more.

Using Magnesium Chloride

Dr Carolyn Dean on Magnesium

What was your dosage?

I don't see any issue with the DMSO, but the mag oil will sting for as long as you are deficient. Perhaps try the oil twice a day and see how that helps. Also, see Dr Carolyn Dean for magnesium dosage.

I am making my own magnesium oil as well from pure magnesium chloride flakes. Since I mix it in a non toxic hydrating lotion from sukin=magnesium lotion, I can apply lots and experience no itching whatsoever.

Marge, you can try eating more magnesium rich foods. Have you tried transdermal application? If you do, start low and slow.

Hi Marge,

You could make a gentle form of magnesium yourself at home which is easy on the stomach and extremely bio-available. It's called Magnesium acetate and is made with ACV or white distilled vinegar and (plain non flavored) milk of magnesia. You'll need to get the brand that has as its inert ingredient only water as some contain a bleach called hypochlorite. Dollar general and CVS for sure carry those but dollar general is only two bucks a 12 oz bottle.

Anyway, add 2 tablespoons of the M O M to a glass and then add 8 tablespoons of your vinegar and stir until the reaction is complete ( you'll know this has occurred when the solution is clear.) You may need to add small increments of vinegar say 1/4 teaspoon at a time to get the solution clear. (Try the white distilled vinegar first until you get the right ratio).

Your milk of magnesia should contain 1200 mg of magnesium hydroxide per tablespoon, therefore this 10 tablespoon batch will yield 1008.8 mg or just over a gram of elemental magnesium which you could put preferably in a sealed glass container refrigerated and dose yourself accordingly. 1 tablespoon = 100+mg magnesium. Work up to what works right for you.

Good luck

Chelated magnesium glycinate is best absorbed and most gentle on the tummy.

It all depends on the individual, so the best approach is a "broad spectrum" magnesium. Get as many forms as possible which may mean at least two or more products. Here are the forms to look for: Magnesium ---Citrate, Orotate, Aspartate, Malate, Oxide.

Malate is the easiest capsule form to assimilate. As Carolyn Dean says, if you don't get diarrhea, then it's working. No need to purchase expensive liquid ones when Malate works for Pennies a month.

I had rapid heartbeats too, and the magnesium made a big big difference! Get a good transdermal form and you'll be amazed! Relief comes quick.

Hawthorne berry also helps with this, so I do both.

Elizabeth, I also take Lisinipril for HBP and then prescribed beta blocker and found my liver unable to detox it so I am running a little high; but do not have your heart racing. Lisinipril is very effective at reducing hypertension but it is hard on the kidneys. Do you restrict your sodium? Get enough Potassium? Cranberry or D-Mannose helps clear the infection. Herbs like Parsley, Cedar Berry help kidney function. Start w/ 250mg Magnesium daily for a few days then bump up to 500mg. Mg is also good for the heart. I would also take some Carnitine or/and CoQ10 for heart support. Hope this helps and good luck.

Transfer Factor Cardio is also good to use. It has transfer factor which is a messenger molecule that rememebers potential threats to your cardiovascular system. It is used to balance blood pressure without the side effects. Look for transfer factor cardio and click on the product's profie sheet to see all of the ingredients and what it does. Vitamin b3 is also good for lowering blood pressure but you may need to take bcomplex and additional b3.

Lisinopril caused my heart to race. It also caused my panic attacks. I went off it and haven't had any since.

RE: High Blood pressure, Coenzeyme 10 (Qc10) will lower your blood pressure better than any Drug in the World that a DR can give you. 150milligram's 3 times a day, it can be taken along side your BP Med's if you've been scared and bullied enough by DR's to take it, it will not interfere with any Med's. I have helped Gang's of people with this, and I was one of them. My BP went fatal, last week I got it checked and I've got the BP of a super fit 18 year old and I'm 54yrs young. I never took any Med's as they cause more damage. It has to be Ubiquinol (there are many forms of Cq10), and a good Omega 3 oil is excellent too. Cq10 is made naturally by the body, but lower's with age and other factors. Statins are also evil, I met load's of people in Hospital that had heart attack's caused by Statins, an everyone I know has got heart damage from these Drug's. Its a lie about High Cholesterol, we need it. Our Brain's are made of it, Beet root juice lower's it brilliantly if you really believe it should be lowered, but it's got NOTHING to do with Heart Attack's. It's just another scare mongering tactic to sell more Drug's and make even more money for the evil one's. Do you think they take their own poison? No, they go to Health spas and eat Organic food, and natural remedies. And Detox in luxury using the money they scared everyone in to parting with for drug's. Love Andrea C xxxx

I gave a family member who was on blood pressure medicine Ubiquinol: a very good brand highly absorbable, with safflower oil. After taking it, one day he dropped to his knees. Taken to emergency room he was told his blood pressure was very low. I did not know his medication prior to giving him ubiquinol. I agree with everything else in the post. How many milligrams of CoQ10 can be taken with BP medicine?

Maybe because Ubiquinol is more absorbable form of CoQ10 makes a difference? Also, same product taken by a woman with heart condition aND subject to lung blood clots caused profuse sweating. Why?

I agree with this post regarding conventional med prescribed which is why I continue with vit, and supplements.

Hello Lewis from Auckland,

To give you a definite answer to your question one would need to know how much magnesium is contained in those 3 squirts to each armpit, but you are probably in no danger from overdosing on magnesium if you don't have any renal problems.

Apparently the kidneys have some function in processing and excreting magnesium since urologist advise renal patients to not take magnesium supplements, but with the laxative action oral magnesium has one would think that the GI tract is the main one doing this job. However I have read that the most accurate way to tell when your magnesium level is up to normal range, is to test the urine for magnesium because the serum level can be reading normal but still be low until you start excreting magnesium in the urine.

I spent most of my adult life constipated. I was the only one who went to Mexico and prayed for Montezumas revenge! Now that I take magnesium 500 mg. 2x daily, everything works just like it clockwork. I have heard it is also good for migraine sufferers. I used to have lots of migraines when I was younger but went through menopause and they pretty much stopped (hormones were the culprit). I wish I had started taking magnesium years ago and maybe my migraines would have gone away alot sooner or at least been less frequent.

I concur 100%... Lifelong constipation, high cholesterol and now gallstone. I just realized I am probably magnesium defincient to I started taking it and like clock-work the BM's are daily... I am hoping it helps the other issues (research says it does).

Fauna, if you don't mind asking what kind of magnesium were you taking?

George, this doesn't appear to be an issue of safety, but of healthy. If you wish to BALANCE and OPTIMIZE your body's minerals, consider a complete mineral supplement like Ionic Trace Minerals Complex that contains up to 72 minerals. I have been having very good results w/ a Great Salt Lake mineral supplement in caps or liquid. Supplementing ALL the available minerals, you would thereby greatly reduce or totally eliminate the need for EXTRA magnesium. Also take 1 - 3 grams Taurine daily to help your body with mineral utilization.

In a book I am reading right now, Transdermal Magnesium Therapy, Mark Sircus says that actually 1000mg a day might be the good amount for most people! I diluted Nigari in water and rub it over my body so I have no idea how much I am getting!

Hi Jeff... Magnesium Chloride can be taken in amounts up to 1/2 tspn in a glass of water per day. This amount has historically been used to cure diseases like diptheria and polio in the earlier days when medicine was more honest. See this link:

http://curezone.com/art/read.asp?ID=49&db=5&C0=74

Normally, if you are taking MC for a specific reason for the first time, you should take a larger dose -- say 1/2 tspn and try to find the point where you get loose stools or diarrhea. This is called titrating the dose. This tells you that you body is getting enough magnesium and that's when you should cut back to 1/8 or 1/4 tspn a day. Every individual will have a different requirement for magnesium and this is the best way to find it.

Chris Gupta says you should take 25g/litre which works out to 2. 5gms(or 1/2 tspn) per 100 mL(or about 1/2 glass of water).

If you are using Magnesium Oil, the dosage is 10 drops two or three times a day outside mealtimes. Again you should try and find your own level by titration.

Thanks Bill! If I understand you correctly, if my body could tolerated 1/2 tsp of MC, then eventually I would start having diarrhea when my body hits the limit? or is it that I get diarrhea the first time around if I take more than what my body can take?

Also, I want to get this clear that we're talking about 1/2 tsp per day right? not 1/2 tsp 3x a day?

Where did you buy your magnesium chloride?