i used hydrogen peroxide, 35% with 8 oz. of distilled water to drink for theraputic benefits. I started with 4 drops hp in water twice daily;increasing by 1 drop daily until I reached 11 drops. (then I stopped because of nausea). I used the hp full strength in the water because thats how I understood it to be used. Since I did this, my joints (shoulders, lower back, pelvis and knees)ache daily. What did I do wrong and can something be done to correct this?
Chromium and Vanadium
omg this just happened to me too but I was taking a low dose of chromium only. In fact, each time I take the chromium I repeatedly wake up in the middle of the night and have to urinate and I feel so thirsty, weak, faintish, lethargy, clammy but once I eat something I feel much better. Interesting to read the responses here and see some of us sweet tooths may not need chromium and it might have lowered our blood sugar too much. I thought since some of the symptoms were similar to diabetes that maybe it was flushing me out and I was having a healing crisis but I felt soooooooo bad until I ate. DgH could call, I think you nailed it! If anyone has any other info, please post. Thank you all!
Not sure if this could be the problem, but you're supposed to take it with distilled water--never tap water...
UPDATE: My husband and I are on Day 21 and doing GREAT! I'm up to 20 drops, 3x daily, 35% Food Grade H2O2 in distilled water, he's on 23 drops of the same. My blood sugar is much better--really loading up on protein and restricting carbs almost completely. Not using as much baking soda now--don't use it every time I take the drops. Looking forward to making it to the 25-drop mark so we can start tapering down to the maintenance level. I get a lump in my throat every time I think about drinking this stuff, but it is SO worth it! This therapy has made a world of difference in our lives--both have a lot more energy and endurance for life. My husband used to be tired all the time, and now doesn't fall asleep on the couch every evening. Really enjoying the extra energy, mental clarity, and freedom from constant PAIN and depression!
I have the same problem--colon spasms, when I drink anything with caffeine. If you're drinking caffeine as well as doing the H2O2 therapy, you may want to cut down on the caffeine. I can't use apple cider vinegar for the same reason--it's a simulant :(
This is the exact same scenario with me and my husband. Have you tried taking 1/4 tsp baking soda with your H2O2? I had the same issue until I started doing that. So are you saying you don't wait the full 3 hours after you take the H2O2, before you eat? I'm thinking of trying that--maybe wait 2.5 hours, to see how I do...
UPDATE: Day 13 and still hanging in there! Up to 11 drops 35% food grade H2O2 plus 1/4 - 1/2 tsp baking soda, 3x daily. For the most part, feeling GREAT!! I've had a few die-off effects, but not bad. The biggest problem is my blood sugar. I'm hypoglycemic and my blood sugar starts dropping about an hour before I can eat again :( There's just no getting around it, so I'm trying to work through it. I couldn't do it if I was working. But let me tell ya, my mind hasn't been this clear for as long as I can remember! AND very little, if any, pain! Woo hoo!! The other night, I was watching TV, and all of a sudden, my sinuses just opened up! I didn't even know they were blocked--never knew I coudn't take a deep breath! Pretty cool when it helps with problems you never even knew you had :) My husband is up to 15 drops 35% food grade H2O2, 3x daily, and doing GREAT!
My 7 year old son has developed a small lump in one of his breasts and pubic hair on his testicles. He is thin and does not eat soy and eats organic meat and chicken. However he loves flax seed crackers and takes a flax oil supplement along with fish oil, co Q10 and a multi. (he has low level autisim and a ventriculir septil (sp??) deviation (a small hole in his heart).
As I have gotten closer to menopause, I have read that Flax oil is helpful to women wanting to balance their hormones. Could the flax oil be causing early puberty in my son? Any ideas on how to slow this down??? I have taken him off all flax!
Better But With Side Effects
Heya Earthclinic, when I take probiotics my sweat smells like bread dough or yeasty. And when I shower and stop the probiotics the smell is gone. Is this die off of candida?
Chromium and Vanadium
perhaps it was because you are not deficient in these minerals and when you added them it was too much. it is also possible that they lowered your blood sugar (in addition to the spiking and lowering going on from eating sugar) and that after the sugar wore off (higher BG) the minerals kicked in and made your blood sugar too low - so your body made more glucose which raised your BG and so you were thirsty and had to pee a lot.
i would stop taking them. I am a type 1 diabetic and also tried taking these (mostly chromium) and had increased hair fall and it did not help my blood sugar.
Please instruct me on where to get the kind of hydrogen peroxide you use and where to get it. I am in tremendous pain with severe fibro fog and I ll try anything to help. So glad I found this site. I may finally feel like living again! How do I take it? What else are you using for your pain and fog? thanks, Sarah
UPDATE: Doing much better using the baking soda. Also, started eating more fiber which has helped tremendously! Up to 15 drops food grade 12% HP 1x daily and 27 drops 2x daily. Slowly working my way up. My mental clarity and energy are through the roof--no more Fibro Fog! Fibromyalgia pain almost completely gone!!
Chromium and Vanadium
I took some chromium and vanadium since I eat a lot of sweets. A side effect was I had to keep waking up in the night to urinate and was very thirsty. I just didn't feel right either. After I ate somethign and got moving around I was ok. Needless to say, I stopped the chromium and vanadium and the side effect stopped. I know diabetics can get increased urination and thirst. Why did taking these substances seem to bring on a diabetic symptom? Did I not drink enough water to flsuh toxins? Is this just a cleaning or better to stop?
Better But With Side Effects
I am doing the HP oral therapy and did great--more energy, less pain, mental clarity--until I reached 21 drops 3x daily of 12% food grade, in distilled water. Then the horrible esophageal burning started! So I added 1/4 teaspoon baking soda in distilled water, directly after the HP. It helps some, but still the burning. Is there anything else I can do to rememdy this?
PLEASE NOTE: I had this same burning before starting the HP if I tried to eat fresh fruits/vegetables. Also, I have some fear that the HP will burn a hole in my stomach/esophagus. Any info would be much appreciated.
Check your B Vitamins.. Grey hair can be brought on by stress which depletes B viamins. Poor intestinal health and incomplete nutrient absorption all contribute to hair health. You could try a course of unsulphured Black Strap Molasses as it is a better balanced and natural selection of minerals for hair. Many people have success with this. Have a look at the testimonies here on Earth Clinic for Black Strap Molasses. I wouldn't embark on single mineral supplementation without a good deal of research. Best of luck
I took 2 mg copper supplement to reverse grey hair and I feel nauseous. Google search said its a sign of too much copper or lack or zinc so too much copper or body can't handle copper because of some disorder like Wilson's Disease. What can I do to get copper to turn hair color back but not get sick? I didn't realize too much copper can hurt the liver. I didn't take much so maybe I need zinc then I can take the copper again? Its some good brand chelated copper. If my sick is not due to a zinc deficiency can I make liver stronger somehow? I must have copper deficiency because of all grey hair.
I read one of Ted's posts about taking Vanadium Sulfate to help lower blood sugar... I have been taking 200 grams a day not milligrams, but GRAMS. Since I've been taking it, I have been so dizzy, lethargic and weak... I have absolutely no energy, am fatigued... Good thing is though, that my Insomnia is gone and I have been sleeping like a rock!!!!! DOG TIRED!!! I've stopped taking the Vanadium Sulfate a week ago, but still have this fatigue and weakness... How do I get rid of it?? It's almost like Vertigo, but not quite... Maybe Hypoglycemia.... Help!
I've been using baking soda and Apple Cider Vinegar from last 10 days for my funtional cyst (1.7 and 1 cm in each ovary). Before that I was taking just Apple Cider Vinegar for 20 days. Now the problem is I am feeling dull pain in my stomach(upper) and sides of my core. I feel better when I lay down, cant walk or stand for very long. Is it because I am taking baking soda with acv? because there was no such pain when I was takng Apple Cider Vinegar alone.
Please reply soon, thank you so much.
Better But With Side Effects
Hi. I just read an Earth Clinic report on your site (dated 11/21/2006) that casts doubt on whether H2O2 therapy might cause gastrointestinal problems. I just wanted to give you some feedback on the subject, based on personal experience. I've been on H2O2 therapy for a few weeks - long enough to see a few subtle changes for the better - but one down-side that I've also noticed is that I get very severe reflux as a result. My better half started the therapy at the same time as me, and he takes the same dose of H2O2 as me, but he hasn't had any reflux problems.
There's one main difference between the two of us however - I had a pretty nasty gastric reflux problem to start with (had it for years) whereas he doesn't have a pre-existing condition of this kind. So while I'm not saying that H2O2 actually causes gastric problems, I am saying that it might irritate pre-existing problems of that type in some people - particularly if the problem is already fairly severe to start with. I find it helps if I take my reflux medication during or before taking my daily H2O2 dose, and I also get better results if I don't let my stomach stay empty for too long after ingesting H2O2. It doesn't stop the reflux completely, unfortunately, but it seems to reduce the severity quite a bit.
It would be interesting to know why you were taking the psyllium husk capsules..... Constipation, I suppose.... I have never tried them but the only thing I can think about is that you took too much and had a terrible diarrhea! You say that you took 2 an hour before every meal but how many meals a day do you take? Does that mean that you took 6? It might have been too much! What I do in case of constipation is to start with a little bit and wait to see if it works. Sometimes I eat prunes, for example, but never a lot or else I can have the exact same problems (I have never vomited though...).
ok just started taking psyllium husks capsules yesterday, 2 an hour before each meal, have spent today in bed with terrible cramps, diarrhoea, and now vomiting, thought it was a gastric bug, but not sure after reading some posts here, drank plenty of water, does anyone recommend I continue with it?
Mary, I think that you are supposed to start with a smaller dose of MSM and not take it in an empty stomach. It didn't do much for me (I went up to maybe 5g a day) but I will try an MSM drink soon which also contains glucosamin and chondroitin.
that is awesome that you started slow and work your way up. My dad is almost 70 and can take up to 9 a day... My husband 46 is also at 9 a day after he broke his arm 2 yrs ago and then again last year after a chainsaw injury to his leg. No side effects... But he was also taking lots of d (his blood test was really low) and lots of vitamin c and I made him drink tons of water every day. I have heard it is really really important to drink lots of water. I have the book the miracle of msm and it is an awesome read- actually I have 2 copies and I loan one out ;-) I also have a large MSM article I printed out from an online website but I don't think I'm allowed to post the link to that... It is said to be the official website for msm. I printed it out almost 3 years ago and it is dogeared beyond belief. I reread it all the time at breakfast, in the bathroom etc. Because you forget how many amazing uses it has!!! Wish there was more studies on breastfeeding and pregnancy and taking it. I know most people just say it's a supplement but I always err on the side of caution so I will have to wait until I am done nursing.
I started with 1500mg once a day. Empty stomach in the morning.
1-Nausea (not too bad) 15 minutes after
2-Sleeplessness and feeling some "electricity" or my "blood running" inside my body .
3- My stomach making a lot of noise. but I think now it happen after I ate bread.
Now I am taking 3 pills a day 4500mg and sleep like a baby and no more nauseas
take a lot less.
Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda
Two of us experienced the same thing after taking acv bicarbonate of soda. We had shortness of breath, almost fainting-like. Also, there was tremendous tiredness, hard to walk or do things. Any moment, we felt the heart might stop and die.
We want to ask Ted who recommended this remedy: why these happen?
Hopefully! This cut skin feeling has appeared in my lower eyelid, where the veins are now more visible. Wherever it appears, the veins are more visible.
Dear FXGirl, looks like I'm the clumsy one! I hope you find out what it is, because I keep recommending H2O2 to people, and also this fantastic Earth Clinic. Please let us know if you uncover the cause. My gratitude to everyone who posts on this site, especially the founders, and regular stellar advisors.
Hi Michelle, thank you for your answer. Actually, I know very well how to handle H2O2 because I've always used it externally, so spilling it is not an option. Maybe some other thing is wrong...
For Melba, any even the slowest detox will agrevate you anxiety. I am in the same shoes for 10 years. Your body is over sensitive and you have to handle it very sensible too. Slow down and take your time with any detox......
Dear fxgirl, in reply to your feeling of cut hands. I think you may have dropped some undiluted H2O2 onto your hands, even as little sprinkles. This will cause stinging and white skin patches, that feel like cuts. I have done this to myself! Just try not to spill, and wash hands after using H2O2 just in case.
I began my H2O2 therapy three days ago, diluted 10 drops of 3% hydrogen peroxide in 200 ml. of mineral water. I noticed a feeling of cut skin on the palm of my hands, one of them being an actual cut. Has anyone heard of this being a side effect?
For the past two weeks I have been drinking the borax, shilajit (fulvic acid), L-gutamine, and apple cidar vinegar in a 32 oz glass of water throughout the day. Hoping to draw out heavy metals and fluoride, and the l-glutamine for yeast. 4 days on, 3 days off as was suggested on here.
The third day of the second week I had tremendous anxiety. Crying, tremendous worry, racing thoughts. I had to stay home from work because my heart was racing so much. Anyone who has had anxiety knows the feeling of all the muscles being tight, yet feeling like electricity shooting through them.
Could this be a symptom of detox????
We don't have Epsom salts here but I use magnesium chloride (Nigari) in my bath once in a while. I am in the menopause now (I suppose your wife is as well) but it hasn't given me any hot flushes.... Still everybody is different, some women have a lot, so far I only have a little bit which is quite nice as the winter here has been very cold! On the other hand I have heavy back pain and that is the reason why I have been trying MSM and magnesium chloride in my bath but so far nothing has helped!
Hi I have been trying out an Epsom Salt remedy for my wifes bladder pain and carpal tunnel with some success. The dose was a quarter of a teaspoon of Epsom Salts 3 times a day plus using a 20% mix with water as a body spray. The method was working, however my wife started getting progressively worse hot flushes(up to every half hour), night sweats and headaches after a week. We have had to stop this treatment and all symptoms caused have gone in 4 days. I believe it was the sulphur content causing this problem (I wonder if MSM would be the same). I have sent off for some magnesium chloride and will try that as I believe this remedy was working well.