Mini Beet Protocol by Robert Von Sarbacher

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Posted by Candy (Houston, Tx) on 09/14/2010

I know it was not the power of suggestion in my case. I had never heard of this site much less the MBP. Over the past summer, when I started juicing different concoctions I used a couple of large organic beets thrown in with some other greens and it laid me out flat from severe nausea, shaking, heart pounding, sweating. I definitely felt like I was having some sort of an "episode"(lol:)) I couldn't understand -- this sort of thing had never happened before. The only difference was the beets!!


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Posted by Entheogens (Palo Alto, California, Usa) on 04/22/2010

I have a question about the MBP. Now I have been doing the MBP for the last two days, but here is my problem. I am using a Vitamix juicer, and as you may know, that does not get rid of the pulp. I have to put about 1/2 cup or so of water into the blender with the beets or else, I just get a mush. So, I am pretty sure that 1 cup (or 1/4 cup) of the juice you get from a regular juicers is not the equivalent of what you get from a Vitamixer. So, I need to know, from those of you using regular juicers, how many medium-sized beets you use to get a cup or 1/4 cup of the beet juice.

I am rather sure that over the last two days I have either been using too much or too little beet. I have been eating two or three apples and the carrots and doing the cinammon, but the only bad reaction I have got so far is a temporary, mild headache.

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Posted by Entheogens (Palo Alto, California, Usa) on 04/24/2010

Thanks Bibi. Apparently, according to Von Sarbacher, there is a difference if you use a juicer or Vitamix (as I am doing). Now why this should be the case confuses me. I mean, the only difference is that with a Vitamix, you are getting the fiber and not just the juice. In other words, nothing is being subtracted. You would think that as long as you are getting the beets in you, that the form, juice or entire beet, would not matter.


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Posted by Jvc (Oak Park, Il Usa) on 02/09/2012

So if you are using the vitamix, how many beets do you need to get 1/4 of cup of beet and asparagus juice, since water must be added?


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Posted by Tricia (Ireland) on 04/20/2010 84 posts

Well done Bibi. That's a fantastic achievement. Well, well, well done.


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Posted by Dolly (Cairo, Egypt) on 11/22/2009

Hi a question to Ted and all who are acquainted with MBP, I am about to do the mini beet protocol but I need to know should I boil the beets first or just juice it raw and also the other ingredients? I do not have a juice machine, will a blender be okay? I am afraid it will break or so!

Appreciate someone's feedback on this the soonest please.

Dolly

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Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA) on 11/22/2009

Hi Dolly, Well, the beets should be raw. I would say you need a juicer as that is what it says in the mbp. Then, this morning as I was going through youtube I found a guy who said that if you can't afford a juicer, use your blender- it's better than nothing! He showed how he did it. Now, what I would do is cut up your beet in small chunks to help your blender to not get overtaxed. He then added water. (He was using carrots, greens, etc., not beets.) Then, he blended it up. Next, he poured it through a strainer. Now you can get nut milk bags at health food stores (not all)or over the internet but they aren't exactly cheap. I got mine for $11 at a health food store. He said you can get paint strainers which work equally as well and go for about a dollar a piece! Put it over a glass, pour your blender liquid in, squeeze liquid from the pulp as well from the strainer and then drink the glass full of juice. Search on youtube for "juicing with a blender" and the guy I watched is rashb. There may be others as well. Hope this helps.


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Posted by Phil (Dearing, Ga) on 11/22/2009

Hi Dolly. Beets should be in RAW form. This way they have alot more detox effects. Ted, is not the one that suggest the MBP, it is actually Robert Von.

Robert gives an alternative to get your beets in, without doing the MBP and helps you somewhat like the MBP. I think it was on here just a few days ago. It was a response to Lisa, from California. Go on here under REMEDIES to Mini beet protocol, look for Lisa and read, I can't remember who wrote to her, but they had written what Robert suggested to get your beets in. Also you should check out: http://curezone.com/Forums/am.asp?i=1164794.

Alot is already on here. You just have to read. I have been reading here daily, for years and have not even scratched the surface, yet.

Here on Earth Clinic everything is laid out pretty simple and you can also use the search box here to find what you need.

The person that responded to Lisa, should still be here some where under the lastest post section also.

Good luck!
Phil


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Posted by Dolly (Cairo, Egypt) on 11/25/2009

Hi Phil, thanks a lot for the feedback and guiding lines to find all about MBP here on earthclinic.

Dolly


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Posted by Dolly (Cairo, Egypt) on 11/25/2009

Hi Lisa, thanks for explaining how to do the mbp without a juicer, which I will do at least till I buy one! I found the you Tube and its very good, thanks for your help Lisa.

Dolly


Multiple Cures Reported
Posted by Shakti (Toronto, Canada) on 03/14/2010

Hello, I contracted lyme almost 3 years ago. I was not given sufficient antbiotics and developed many further problems in the ensuing years despite additional antibiotics, including heart, eye, weight problems with great fatigue and pain. I have had several bouts with mycoplasma, candida, and ensuing arthritis for years . I healed these issues with a 45 day Master cleanse fast. I have cured the pain and complications of lyme with juice fasting ,also for 45 days . During his time I had a powerful beet detox experience. I made a VERY strong beet heavy juice, and after drinking it I broke out in a horrid red rash all over my chest , under breasts , and up to my neck . I used castor oil packs, bentonite clay and oatmeal, and it subsided after 10 days entirely. I also got better after the 45 days. I had been in unbearable pain and had CFS for 3 months and could not get home to juice and fast, as I collapsed in another city after a period of stress that brought out the lyme.

After feasting on champagnes, fine wines and excellent foods at Xmas this year I gained weight, was agin arthritic, and got ill. I returned home, and have been juicing, using beets often, with greens and apples and carrots . All good, am better, have weight loss, etc . But see wrinkles and lax skin like never before. I am aging too fast now. Saturn is on its' 2nd return now, and I knew that would be an issue, but I am vain, and enjoy my beauty ... I have been a vegetarian, and conscious of foods and supplements since 15 when I started yoga ... and look about 18 years younger than my age. I wish to continue to do so.

My questions are ... did your husband's crow's feet disappear? and what kind of surgery did you undergo ? I am considering a necklift , and also a small lower face lift , and eyes to be done - soon . Is there much swelling ? How long does it take to look and feel normal ?

Did the extreme beet protocol cause an appreciable change in wrinkles and skin tightness and youthfulness , and collagen renewal Thank you,
love and light ,
Shakti


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Posted by Jp (Pomona, New York) on 11/05/2009

Rikigirl, I'll be looking forward to your weekly updates on this. I plan on starting this in a week or two. I just placed an order for the cinnamon. I'm hoping this will help my candida problem since nothing else works along with some other health issues.


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Posted by Rob (Manhattan, New York) on 10/13/2009

Mini Beet Protocol

That is quite a list of benefits! Without solid studies and verified lab tests these claims come off as exaggerations and at worst flaky. No doubt however, a healthy drink. Beets, are considered longevity food in many cultures. Borsch, is one great example and all the more powerful if you have a loving grandmother serving it to you. As for Asparagus, I came across this study ..... (Researchers in South Korea at the Institute of Medical Scienceand Jeju National University evaluated the effects of young asparagus shoots and leaves on liver cells from humans and rats. In an extract form, asparagus leaves and shoots significantly eased alcohol's oxidative stress on liver cells and the toxic effects associated with a hangover)........

So I will give this a go to see if it helps with my inflammation...as for clearing my brain and getting rid of my Nano Insects? well...I need more proof. Not completely dismissing...just give me more sound info! Will report back.

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Posted by Yankee (Houston, Texas Usa) on 10/10/2011

Rob from Manhattan, you never came back to comment. Is there anyone out there who found out if all these claims are for real. Who had their gray hair turn dark? Who had their wrinkles go away? Some of these claims are quite sensational. I can't find any real "reviews" of Robert Von on the internet. Anyone?


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Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 10/10/2011

Lisa, thank you so much for your response. It's very encouraging for my quest for finding the best diet for me. I am now experimenting with no-carb for a bit, to see if that makes any difference, it did for my white tongue, that is gone. But it is still not the ultimate answer. Animal proteins are in, but not anywhere near the amounts in the various low-carb diets.

I'm a bit leary of all those newfangled machines, I'd really like a basic, plain diet that will do me good. Still searching!


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Posted by Lee (New York, Usa) on 10/10/2011

Hi Lisa, Great to read your update. I'm always interested in following your steps to good health. I've done a bit of the same protocols. Now I'm avoiding grains, going light on dairy, eating lots of organic veggies and some fruit. I'm wondering if you are still taking MSM? I have had success with it, but I also take HA. I also have some amalgam fillings which has always concerned me. Did the Dr. suggest replacing them? It's great to be able to learn from each other on this website. I hope all is well with you and your family. Happy Fall! Lee


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Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA) on 10/10/2009

So, I am on day 3 of the mini beet protocol and no side effects at all. I am drinking the juice in the morning of beet/asparagus mixture and then following with the apple and carrot. I did notice yesterday that my facial skin was very clear and a very healthy color but other than that nothing. Of course, it has only been a few days at this point. I am a very healthy eater believing in eating "close to the earth" which includes vegetables, meat and fish. I also have done a lot of the cleansing/ detox remedies from this site. ACV, hydrogen peroxide, baking soda, oil pulling, etc. which could contribute to why I don't feel any signifcant side effects of detoxing. I started cautiously with 1/4 of both beet and asparagus juice but this morning I took it up to 1/2 of each and so far, so good. I will keep you posted on the results as I go.

I am curious though as to where it was mentioned that Theo of Ottawa, Canada heard a lot of audio of Robert von Sarbacher. I can't find any anywhere on the web other than his one page he has posted on his MBP. If anyone can lead me to that I would appreciate it as I would love to hear him speak on it. He makes some pretty hefty claims as to results of this regimen so we'll see...

EC: Hi Lisa,

3 links below Robert's photo on his home page here: http://robertvon.com/

The first 2 links are audio files from a radio program.

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Posted by Phil (Dearing, Ga) on 11/05/2009

Hi Lisa. I am so glad to hear all the good MBP has done for you and your husband. I have had a great desire to try this MBP myself. I did read all the Robert had to say, but did not listen to the recordings or go to his website... On my computer, it wanting me to open up outlook or something like that and I am cautious of things like that. My computer knowledge is limited and I am careful as to what I will open or install.

You may have already addressed this, in one of your previous posts.

Robert, mentions some supplements to keep the body from developing any stones... I believe it was coral calcium, magnesium and one other one.

Are you and your husband taking these suppliments? Because this is really the only thing holding me back, I believe my mother in-law will loan me her juicer for a while. I just don't want to develope stones in any way.

I read all of Roberts post here on EC and clicked the link he mentioned getting the suppliments from. I was unable to find those suppliments on that website.

So, on Roberts website and audio how did he address the issue of stones? Could I use the coral calcium, magnesium and other suppliments from another supplier?

I do know he provided a phone number, but thought you may already know.

Thank You,
Phil


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Posted by Kay (Houston, Tx) on 11/15/2009

wow lisa:) what kind of juicer are you using? i too have gone mostly raw since starting the mbp but have not noticed results like you!:)


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Posted by Kay (Houston, Tx) on 11/17/2009

hey lisa!:) you are a real inspiration to us! i have the same juicer.:) i have only tried blending the greens for smoothies, not adding them to the MBP so i will try that. (i'm trying to get rid of some acne scars on my face:)) i will try juicing them with the MBP and report back in a week:). thanks so much lisa!:) (i also know that i have digestive issues!)


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Posted by Gean (Salina, Ks) on 11/19/2009

Actually, my question is about the aloe vera. For those of you who have aloe vera in your gardens, can you please tell me the approx. length of what would be considered a "large aloe vera leaf"? I need this information for the aloe/honey cancer cure, and the plants we get at the store are so small that I don't know what a large leaf would look like. How big do they get? Thanks.


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Posted by Tricia (Ireland) on 11/20/2009 84 posts

Hi Gean, I don't know where I got this info so I can't confirm that it is correct but I read somewhere that to get the most nutrient content from an aloe vera leaf it should be at least 14 inches in length.


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Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA) on 11/20/2009

Hey Tahiti, Thanks so much for passing that letter on! I tried once more yesterday trying to find more on mbp on the web with no luck so this was awesome. He is so full of enthusiasm as I find all of these people who are involved and living this life of healthy eating with veggies, juicing and raw foods. They literally ooze with life force! I love it and am finding it so inspiring. They are so willing to pass on vital information to help improve one's life/health. I find each day from doing this which is now a month and a half, that I am doing the same. Bubbling with excitement to see all the changes occurring in me. Wanting everyone to try giving it a chance only to see problems disappear. I am going to try the parsnip/carrot recipe although for two weeks we have been raw and the changes have accelerated. Again thank you. I may try writing him myself and thank him for the info. Lisa


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Posted by Kay (Houston, Tx) on 11/22/2009

hi lisa:) how many times a day were you juicing the greens? plus, did you drink it right away or store it in the fridge for later in the day? i got an aloe vera plant:). i'll let you know in a week how that goes with the juicing of the greens with the mbp:).


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Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA) on 11/22/2009

Hi Kay, We were doing greens with the beets both in the morning and then around 5pm. From all the research I've done, it's best to drink it immediately, not save it. Honestly, the Breville is so easy to use that juicing with it is easy. The reason is because you want all those enzymes that are in there and they dissolve pretty quickly as time goes by. It's the oxidization. There are people who say that if you MUST save it for later, put it in a glass jar and make sure it is flush to the lid so that there is no oxygen in there. Personally, I'd rather get as many health benefits as I can from the juice. So, you got an aloe vera plant! Good for you. Did you plant it? I cannot believe how wonderful it has made my skin feel. I use it all over my face and neck. Of course, I know the juicing has been extremely effective. Did you get around to watching any of the videos on youtube I recommended? Also, look up rejuvelac. I have begun drinking that- it is full of enzymes, vitamins, and friendly bacteria. I bought some so I could start right away. I am going to make my own though after finally getting some hard red wheat berries to sprout beginning this morning. I watched how to make it on youtube. Good video with Angela Stokes and also Ann Wigmore who was famous for helping heal people who had all sorts of ailments including cancer with juicing at her healing center. I am looking forward to hearing about how your next week goes. Are you eating a standard diet in addition to your juicing or are you eating more vegetarian? We are at about 90% raw at this point for about 2 and a half weeks now. Such a vast world to explore! I'm so curious to hear your results and discoveries. Have fun on your journey. Lisa


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Posted by Kay (Houston, Tx) on 11/23/2009

hi lisa!:) you are so sweet to write back so soon!:) thanks; we have only been juicing once a day; i will try twice a day with the extra greens:). yes, we are 90% raw; just fish maybe every other day; otherwise, juice, the green smoothies, hemp seeds, chia seeds, raw cacao, goji berries, stuff like that:). yes, i've looked up some of the youtube videos!:) they are great and inspirational:). my husband says he thinks the scars on my face are better already!:) (not all the way but a definite improvement:)) i'll keep you posted!:) (the aloe vera plant was kind of small so we bought two;we planted them:)insearch of a bigger one because i'll be using alot!:)


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Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA) on 11/23/2009

Hi Kay, I know what you mean about using the aloe a lot. I wanted to tell you that I found a place called Aloe Farms because I thought of perhaps ordering large leaves of it. I thought you'd be interested because they are located in Harlingen, Texas and sell very large leaves which I can purchase here in one of our health food stores and it says they can last a month. Check them out. I am using the aloe and coconut oil alternating through the day and almost all melasma has disappeared from my face!

Also check out Raw Freedom community to find a very extensive recipe section with lots of very yummy recipes which we have tried quite a few of at this point and they have not disappointed. Also, did you look into rejuvelac? Do you have a local health food store that you go to or do you order online? I do both.

I saw that Jenine from Pomona, NY has joined us beginning with the mbp. A shout out to you Jenine and good for you for going for it! You will not be disappointed and I look forward to hearing about your progress.

Take care and here's to our health, Lisa


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Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA) on 12/01/2009

This post is for Kay from Houston, TX- First of all thanks for your fantastic info on superfoods. I have checked it out. I would love to hear how you're doing with your juicing, superfoods, etc. I sent earthclinic my email address for you but they don't have yours. If you are interested in corresponding you could give them your email address and they could give you mine that way. I don't want to violate the guidelines of site names, products, etc. but I wanted to ask you about some of them I have read about and see if you've actually used any of them. Thanks so much! Lisa


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Posted by Anonomous (Falling Pines, America) on 12/11/2009

QUESTION TO TAHHITI FROM MONROEVILLE PA. I noticed in the letter that you posted from Robert on here to Lisa.

Robert said see attached, for correct way of boiling and also mentioned his depestisizing of non organic foods.

Would you be so kind as to post that information here?

Thank you, so much!


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Posted by Tahiti (Monroeville, Pa, United States of America) on 12/12/2009

To Anonymous of Falling Pines, America - Here is the information you requested. This is all of the information that I have received from Robert Von Sarbacher so far. I will post more when I hear from him again. Hope this helps! Tahiti

How to cook veggies and recipe

One of the greatest combo recipes in the world for veggies is... yellow squash, broccoli and spinach, and white onions, with butter oil and salt and pepper and trocomare spice and herbamare spice...(spinach is required to be organic or do not get it at all! It is totally worthless now for any nutrition if not organic, it's just empty!)

When you are back onto eating meats again for those that are vegetarians for a few months, you can also put in here some smoked chicken or smoked brisket if you can find a reliable source for smoked meats... (not cured) like I can find here at Whole Foods Grocer.

Whenever you cook veggies via steaming or via boiling - boil in purified water never in distilled ... distilled and/or de-ionized water are for cleanings and for making teas... not for drinking on a regular basis...See Source list for MRET machine and the use of Spring water with it!

When boiling you must never boil veggies or steam them for more than 15 mins or all the enzymes will be dead.... This involves 2 steps ONLY - Step one, put veggies in water that is ALREADY briskly boiling, this may cause it to stop boiling for a few mins maybe 10 mins, that's fine, just wait til 10 mins is up and take it off the heat or wait the 10 to 12 mins til it starts to finallllly boil again then step 2, DUMP IT, strain it! Remove it from the heat... stop the cooking process... DO NOT turn off the stove and leave it there in the hot water! This will kill it! Do not place it originally in water that is cold and wait the 30 mins to an hour for it to start boiling, they will be dead b4 then! Do not wait for it to come back to a boil so you can count down your 7 to 10 mins of cook time...just start counting from the min you put all the veggies in EVEN if those veggies caused it to stop boiling...no big deal! It will boil again in a few mins or sometimes 10, then when starts boiling again, it's usually perfect 30 second to 2 mins after that... sometimes right then with no more wait! Check and see...

Steaming will kill veggies as easily as boiling but b/c of massively uneven heat distribution ... do you see a problem?? Most veggies will be "al-dente"... little hard or crisp or what have you... that's fine if you prefer it that way.... You know that is truly better than boiling for nutrition, unless you're 88 and you need everything hot and mushy like with boiling... otherwise steaming always comes out superior b/c less cooked... and only one thing better.... Eating them RAW!


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Posted by Tahiti (Monroeville, Pa, United States of America) on 12/12/2009

To Anonymous from Falling Pines, America. Here is the second part of the information that you requested. Here's to your health! Tahiti

Salt and all that is good about it

All studies done on salt being bad for you were done on pure adulaterated filth, but for whatever reason, they still humorously saw fit to still call it salt anyway! Even though had they continued with this form of filthy, trash salt since b4 the 1950s, if they had not added Iodine to it, they would've wiped out all mankind (salt naturally has plenty of iodine in it, they process it to such an extreme that it is there is no iodine or ANYTHING good in it, then add the iodine back in so that mankind does not get wiped out). That is, they still used this salt then (back in the 50s and b4) with iodine added (so that they would not wipe out mankind) in order to do experiments with/studies on that type of salt, thus telling everyone that salt was bad for you, even for the heart... (though it does not stop them instantly from giving a saline/salt IV the second you have a heart attack, hmm)... anyway... without going into forever on describing how they process salt to make it so amazingly bad for you, (though the anticaking agent used is usually worse than allll the evil they've already done to that pile of white filth when they're done with it) let's just go on with which salt to get and how to take it, and use it, and be efficient cost wise about it...

[seems everyyyyone is really interested in how they turn the worlds #1 nutrient and most potent cell mover and shaker and anti-parasitic and brain chemistry enhancer and heart beat repairer into a poison that has the exact opposite affect.. it's simple they turn it into acid! This is how it works... all salt that exists in the world today comes from sea water, whether that sea water comes from dried up sea water in ancient mines we mine out as "rock mine salt" or whether it comes from dehydrating sea water directly from the sea... to make this sort and sweet - here's how it happens. First they went to Mexico and started harvesting their sea water off the coast, it's highly polluted and now worthy of ever being made into salt, no official in Mexico doesn't know this but it doesn't matter considering what they are about to do with it. They will place this sea water into giant Olympic pool size cement vats and let it dry out, and being polluted it dries into a black goo. Being in cement it has soaked up all the cement toxins, most notably amount these toxins is aluminum which goes majorly into the making of cement... they then take this dehydrated sea water black mesh out with a bulldozer and heat it up to a crazy temp to remove all the impurities (thus removing all the pollutants from the sea, and ALL OF THE MINERALS THAT BALANCE THE SALT AND KEEP IT FROM BEING ACIDIC!!!) and in doing this heating, they SEAL IN ALL THE CEMENT TOXINS which cannot be cooked out, isn't that special? They then bleach it to make it white again, and instead of 10 to 15% minerals with the salt it is now 99.9% salt and no minerals, uh, except powdered aluminum, well cooked in, and other cement toxins, and now it's acidic, and when it combines with sugar in foods you eat, salt and sugar together as in every recipe book since Betty Crocker when on the salt with sugar rampage, those 2 together are like running acid thru your blood! Not just ACIDIC sorta kinda, but like acid running thru your veins... sigh, anyway, despite all the evil they do to salt they use this method to make it so that it is superrrrrr cheap... thus the world renowned currency becomes a poison instead of a thing of beauty. Worse than this, it wouldn't have been so bad had they just turned this into you average filthy poison, but they went one step further and added a poisonous anti-caking agent to it! They don't even have to put it on the ingredient label! LOL The anti-caking agent is so messed up that it is WORSE THAN ALL THE EVIL THEY JUST GOT THRU DOING TO THE SALT IN THE FIRST PLACE! It is a radical destroyer of your blood pressure (the anti-caking agent is) and it's affects build up in your body.... Regardless of this, keep this in mind... that real salt, with minerals intack, will lower your blood pressure RADICALLY and within 30 seconds to 30 mins!! It's that fast... here's how you test it... take a blood pressure reading beforehand, then put 1 tsp of salt on your tongue, say Flower of the Ocean brand Celtic Sea Salt, let it dissolve slowly for 5 mins, then take another reading on your blood pressure, then at 5 mins, then at 15 mins then at 30 mins and watch it plummet, THIS IS REAL TRUE SALT - the world's most amazing super fast healer and destroyer of all ulcers and internal tissue strife, a major healer! Well, that was the reallllly short version so moving along]

Redmond Real Salt brand of salt is one of the cleanest salts there is... it is also the cheapest of all the good and acceptable salts! It's a Rock Mine Salt - You can buy a salt shaker of it and then the refill bag and use this in all your cooking, by adding salt AFTER you finish cooking, but still, if you ever use salt in your cooking, then you at the very least now have this and other good salts to use, in the actual cooking process which is better than the bleached, 'anticaking (free flowing) agent filled' salts... you get the idea... this is the one I tell people to get for their everyday needs, b/c it is not expensive though it is still not a therapeutic salt like below...

But for therapeutic salts I tell people to always get Flower of the Ocean Celtic Sea Salt... this is the highest amount of minerals available in a salt in the USA and is good for lowering High Blood Pressure ... I have it put into a formula : a quart water or so with 1/4 tsp of salt and drunk thru the day... making sure with this much salt for therapeutic reasons taken, is always balanced out with one orange and one banana by end of day.... www.watercure.com, or www.watercure2.org for more info on forcing water out of the blood stream and into cells thus forcing HYDRATION of the body... making you thirsty and wanting to drink more water... I also use this one above for a huge variety of other things, esp asthma, etc... but that is for the future...in the mean time... Salt is the escort of water into the cells, the passkey sort of, but not really, but it's a good analogy to get to understand its significance...Just like insulin is the passkey for sugar to get into a cell so that it can be burned and used.

A lot of people are into another high mineral salt as well called Himalayan Sea Salt... but there is soooo much corruption surrounding this salt that the only one I feel ok about recommending for this is one: life-enthusiast.com ... keep in mind though that Himalyan salt will not hold PH level of the blood, just like it will NOT hold the PH of water for more than a few hours b4 the PH of water falls, this is not the case with the above Flower of the Ocean which truly holds in place the whole PH of the blood b/c it's mineral content is so high. I should right a few pages on this subject, but know that Himalayan is inferior.

Next good salt is Sun Fire Salt from myself at my website which will be here at month's end - it's www.WorldNutritionSource.com

Celtic Grey Sea Salts of all kinds.. first thing you notice when switching over to ANY of the salts above or even regular Celtic Grey Salts, is that there is no more swelling going on in the wrists or arms or ankles... congrats on getting rid of a lot of water weight retention by way of using good salts instead of filthy salts...it will NOT get rid of it all, that requires another diet but it will help in that regard...

My personal recommendation is this, for therapeutic use - use the Flower of the Ocean Celtic Salts (it's not grey like the others), and use Real Salt by Redmond for everyday use, so don't have to spend a ton of $...if you're trying to find Flower of the Ocean, google it as I do not sell it yet, however, these are perfect prices if you find it online, for example on Ebay.com $17ish for a ½ lb is a good price so be CAREFUL when you think you're getting ½ price or double pricing and check that you're not paying $8 for 1/4 or 1/8 lb, if you see my point! They will TRY to sucker you in....


www.life-enthusiast.com 866-543-3388 (ref # 10240) Himalayan Sea Salt, http://life-enthusiast.com/usa/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=the gift&search_in_description=1&osCsid=9be510d5689adcbfdf769dff0d69bbe5&x=13&y=16 type

in salt in search engine or maybe Himalayan Salt or just Himalayan

Good Luck to All
Robert von
940-233-0484


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Posted by Rob (Manhattan, New York) on 12/12/2009

distilled water is perfectly fine...& good for you.You get plenty of minerals from your veggies, seaweed etc. I prefer pressure cooking my organic beets for about 8 minutes (larger ones) in a cup of water with a dash of vinegar. I then drink this dark red water & find it has such a restorative effect..(a quick russian borscht)


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Posted by Anonomous (Falling Pines, America) on 12/13/2009

THANK YOU Tahiti!

I do wish he would post here on Earth Clinic also. He seems to be very knowledgable when it comes to nutrition for the body. Again thank you so much!

Please continue to post anything else you get from him. I know it is probably a pain but it will help so many people."

12/13/2009: Tahiti from Monroeville, Pa, United States of America writes, "To Anonymous from Falling Pines, America - You are welcome. I will be sure to post any information that I get from Robert Von Sarbacher. I have asked him to consider posting on earth clinic and he said he would think about it. I told him that there were more than a few people interested in what he has to offer. Maybe if those who truly are interested would email him or call him, he might decide to post here. Tahiti


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Posted by Teambk (Dundalk, Md, Usa) on 08/10/2012

We just got the nutri-bullet. It pulpifies the whole fruit/veggie - seeds and all, if so desired. So, just blend up, or what? I'll be trying this either way. Have been using curcumin for boils. At least something helps.

Heard beets were a great blood cleanser, so - now's the time!


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Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa) on 08/11/2012

Hi Teambk, The original mini beet protocol calls for juicing. I'm not so sure blending would work but certainly never tried it that way. Robert von Sarbacher, the creator of the mbp is pretty specific in his instructions. I have made green smoothies a lot and never used his combination of veggies/ fruit while doing it. Perhaps, use your new nutri-bullet for other green smoothies and try the mbp in the original method. Just my thoughts... Lisa


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Posted by Eve K (Houston, Tx) on 09/19/2009

Whoops, I guess I should have read the instructions again before starting MBP. I just downed a cup of beet juice and a cup of asparagus juice. Too much for a first-timer, according to all of the feedback. Well, good thing I am sticking close to home today in case it makes me ill. I also forgot to do the cinnamon first. I am primarily doing this for fluoride detoxing, although the other benefits would be nice too. My goal right now is to stick with it for 2 weeks and see if there is any benefit. If Robert is reading this, is that long enough to expect a difference?

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Posted by Irishelee (The Rolling Hills, Ky, Usa) on 02/14/2011

[Question] Does anyone have any personal experience doing this with broken teeth? I've looked around and there's not much information on this in regards to teeth.


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Posted by Laurie (Belleville, Ontario, Canada) on 09/17/2009

Hello

Well I've decided to try the MBP. I bought a bunch of beets, asparagus, apples, carrots & celery today. I did the first "treatment", but had forgotten about the cinnamon (too much of a hurry to start lol )

1/4 cup beet juice, plus 1/4 cup asparagus juice; followed by 1 apple and one carrot. The drink is Very good, no bother at all, I ate the apple & carrot and only ended up experiencing a vague feeling of nausea.

1've just had my second treatment (cinnamon plus the juice) and will have a 3rd later. So far so good.

I'll let you know later how the first week goes

I noticed in Roberts Audio he mention protocol can remove all traces of a smoking habit, including the desire to smoke in only ONE WeeK. I did email him, although in all fairness it was only a couple days ago, and I'm sure he's a very busy man.

So Robert if by chance you are reading this. Can you please give us an exact protocol for removing smoking traces in Only ONE Week.... especially for beginners of the MBP like me ??

Thank you
All the best wishes for everyone here.

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Posted by Marie (Philadelphia, Pa) on 09/17/2009

Hi Laurie,

I've been looking everyday on Earth Clinic to see if any one was doing the MBP. I started Saturday, and I'm only doing it once a day. I missed two days but did it again this morning. I'm hoping this will help with my very serious systemic candida problem. I've had this problem for years and have tried soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many different things. I really can't eat sugar or I get a reaction and I feel the yeast in my vaginal area and I feel it before I have to urinate. TMI?????? Sorry. I'm desperate and I'm hoping this will work. I think I'm going to increase taking the mbp.

Please keep us posted with your results and I will do the same.
Wishing us both success!!!
Marie


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Posted by Gean (Salina, Ks) on 09/18/2009

I can't say I have been doing the Mini Beet Protocol, but I guess I would call it the Modified Mini Beet Protocol. Here's what I've been doing for a couple of months, off and on: I started with 1/4 beet, sliced and blended well with a little water. Drink this down with an extra large straw (I saved mine from a gas station drink). Then eat a few raw asparagus spears. Then eat one carrot, and then one apple. I figured the extra fiber would not hurt, plus getting the juicer all dirty for 1/4 beet seemed like a huge ordeal. I also felt better about less waste of a vegetable; also I thought the fiber might help push out toxins. I felt a little nauseated when I did this every day, so I went to every other day for a week. Then every day. Then I increased to 1/2 beet, and skipped the asparagus. Liver spots on my face are quickly fading, as well as red bumps around the lymph node areas, which after a while seem to turn into skin tags. I believe that if you have a clean, healthy liver, everything else follows. I found this method to be less time consuming, since the blender is much easier to rinse clean! It's a sustainable habit, in other words. If it's too hard, you'll stop doing it.


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Posted by Laurie (Belleville, Ontario, Canada) on 09/18/2009

Hello Marie from Philadelphia: Firstly... I too am wishing you success at ridding yourself of the candida and of good health in general. I will continue to rate MBP here for as long as I can afford to do it (Asparagus here is very expensive)

I DO hope you're feeling much better Very soon

Laurie


Gean from Salina, Ks:

If you don't mind my asking how long have you been doing the MBP including your modified version ?? How long was it before you saw "Liver spots on my face are quickly fading, as well as red bumps around the lymph node areas" ? This is very intriguing !

Please keep us all posted on your results

Laurie


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Posted by Gean (Salina, Ks) on 09/19/2009

I have been doing the "MMBP" (modified mini beet protocol) for a couple of months, though not continuously. I've taken days off, or a week or two off here and there. I've also included cooked canned beets in my diet now and then. I don't know exactly when I first realized the liver spots were fading, but all of a sudden I noticed they were like 50% faded. Now it seems like every day they are a little lighter, same with the lymph spots, where before they seemed to be getting darker and darker.


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Posted by Leanne (Brisbane, Qld Australia) on 08/30/2009

Day one of the MBP - I can't stand cinnamon so have omitted that step - I started with oil pulling, then mixed half a cup of beetroot (as it's called here in Australia) juice and half a cup of celery juice. It smelled just a tad earthy and like Dianna from Texas I've had some really special moments with straight beetroot juice in the past, so I added a splash of apple cider vinegar. I drank it slowly over 5 minutes with no ill effects. It tasted a bit salty, but was definitely palatable. I didn't feel at all unwell, and actually forgot to eat the apple and carrot, but ate an apple about half an hour later when I felt hungry. (Ruddy rabbit food!) I've felt good all day, no side effects, however I have been on ACV and bicarb soda as well as oilpulling for around a week, which may have already detoxed me to a degree.

I think that sipping slowly is the key to beetroot juice - chugging it down pretty much guarantees an instant, violent and spectacular multi-coloured display in the bathroom! I'm using the MBP primarily as a liver detox to aid a weight loss programme, which incorporates ACV and bicarb soda, VCO and oilpulling. I also take about 10 grams of calcium ascorbate daily.

Will let you know how the MBP progresses


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Posted by Silvy (Amsterdam, Holland) on 07/12/2009

Hi,First I want to say that I love this site!! I have a question regarding the mini beet protocol. I'm wondering if I should first cook the beet and the asparagus before juicing?

EC: Both should be juiced raw, not cooked!


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Posted by Catherine (Seattle, Washington USA) on 06/07/2009

Questions about the mini beet protocol...can anyone help? I cannot find much information on the internet about it.

1. What is the major beet protocol? The author mentions it but does not say what it is. I imagine it is several cups of beet juice and asparagus per day?

2. Should the juice be drunk on an empty stomach? First thing in the morning? 3 hours after food okay?

3. What is the purpose of the cinnamon?

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Posted by PR (Houston, Texas) on 06/07/2009

Hi just click on the link below and read the whole article. This article will answer all your questions. http://robertvon.com/mbp.html


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Posted by Catherine (Seattle, Washington) on 06/07/2009

Response to PR, Maybe I am missing something, but I read the protocol page 3 times very carefully and did not see my answers questioned!! I know there are 2 video links too, but they cause my browser to freeze so I am unable to watch them. I looked on YouTube and didn't see anything there.

I am hoping someone who knows a lot about juicing can answer my questions.


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Posted by Luis (Cali, Colombia) on 06/07/2009

Beet Juice Lowers High Blood Pressure -- I would like to read opinions of knowing people about this topic, because there are opposing versions. Thank you.

1. High-nitrate vegetables good for cardiovascular health (2008).
2. High-nitrate vegetables bad for forming carcinogenic N-nitrosamines (if combined with a fish meal) (1998).
3. High-nitrate vegetables bad for systemic nitrate exposure (2008).
4. High-nitrate vegetables good for lowering risk of certain forms of cancer and cardiovascular disease (2006).

1. Diets rich in fruits and vegetables reduce blood pressure (BP) and the risk of adverse cardiovascular events. However, the mechanisms of this effect have not been elucidated. Certain vegetables possess a high nitrate content, and we hypothesized that this might represent a source of vasoprotective nitric oxide via bioactivation. In healthy volunteers, approximately 3 hours after ingestion of a dietary nitrate load (beetroot juice 500 mL), BP was substantially reduced (Delta (max) -10.4/8 mm Hg); an effect that correlated with peak increases in plasma nitrite concentration. The dietary nitrate load also prevented endothelial dysfunction induced by an acute ischemic insult in the human forearm and significantly attenuated ex vivo platelet aggregation in response to collagen and ADP. Interruption of the enterosalivary conversion of nitrate to nitrite (facilitated by bacterial anaerobes situated on the surface of the tongue) prevented the rise in plasma nitrite, blocked the decrease in BP, and abolished the inhibitory effects on platelet aggregation, confirming that these vasoprotective effects were attributable to the activity of nitrite converted from the ingested nitrate. These findings suggest that dietary nitrate underlies the beneficial effects of a vegetable-rich diet and highlights the potential of a "natural" low cost approach for the treatment of cardiovascular disease.

Source: Hypertension. 2008 Mar;51(3):617-9.
Acute blood pressure lowering, vasoprotective, and antiplatelet properties of dietary nitrate via bioconversion to nitrite.
Webb AJ, Patel N, Loukogeorgakis S, Okorie M, Aboud Z, Misra S, Rashid R, Miall P, Deanfield J, Benjamin N, MacAllister R, Hobbs AJ, Ahluwalia A.
Clinical Pharmacology, William Harvey Research Institute, Barts & the London School of Medicine and Dentistry, Queen Mary University of London, Charterhouse Square, London EC1M 6BQ, UK.

2. The aim of the present study was to investigate nitrosamine formation after nitrate exposure at the ADI level. This paper describes the excretion of volatile nitrosamines in the urine of human volunteers after a nitrate load in water in combination with a fish meal, since fish contains high amounts of amines, which are nitrosatable precursors (24,25). This study can contribute to the discussion of the validity of the current ADI of nitrate and nitrite for preventing human health risks.

Exposure to high nitrate levels implies a genotoxic risk for humans due to endogenous formation of carcinogenic N-nitroso compounds. Nitrite derived from nitrate may react in vivo with amines and amides to form N-nitroso compounds. About 300 N-nitroso compounds (NOCs) have been tested for carcinogenicity in experimental animals

Vegetables contain vitamin C and other antioxidants that might prevent nitrosamine formation (45-47). In the present study, nitrosamine formation did increase during nitrate intake in combination with a fish meal, even though the volunteers consumed vegetables. These vegetables (cauliflower, peas, carrots, green beans) were low in nitrate, and their mean vitamin C content was approximately 17 mg of vitamin C per 100 g vegetables (48). Thus, the amount of vitamin C and other antioxidants in these vegetables appeared insufficient to prevent nitrosamine formation.

In conclusion, nitrate intake at the ADI level in combination with a fish meal containing nitrosatable precursors increased NDMA excretion in urine and therefore implies the risk of increased formation of carcinogenic N-nitrosamines. The results of this study suggest that the risk of formation of carcinogenic N-nitrosamines should be taken into account in the currently used ADI value for nitrate and in the drinking water guideline for nitrate.

Source:
Environmental Health Perspectives Volume 106, Number 8, August 1998
Volatile N-Nitrosamine Formation after Intake of Nitrate at the ADI Level in Combination with an Amine-rich Diet Ingrid T.M. Vermeer, Danielle M.F.A. Pachen, Jan W. Dallinga, Jos C.S. Kleinjans, and Jan M.S. van Maanen
Department of Health Risk Analysis and Toxicology, Maastricht University, The Netherlands

3. High dietary nitrate intake may pose a risk to human health. Since up to 80-85% of dietary nitrate intake comes from vegetables, the aim of this study was to determine the absolute bioavailability of nitrate from three nitrate-rich vegetables. In an open, four-way cross-over, single dose study, 12 human subjects underwent the following treatments: (1) intravenous infusion of 500mg sodium nitrate, (2) oral administration of 300g cooked spinach, (3) oral administration of 300g raw lettuce, and (4) oral administration of 300g cooked beetroot. The wash-out period between treatments was at least 6 days. Plasma samples were analysed to assess the nitrate and nitrite concentrations, and pharmacokinetic parameters were calculated. The bioavailability of nitrate was 98+/-12% from cooked spinach, 114+/-14% from raw lettuce and 106+/-15% from cooked beetroot. There was no significant increase in plasma nitrite concentrations. This study shows that nitrate from vegetables, whether cooked or uncooked, is absorbed very effectively, resulting in an absolute nitrate bioavailability of around 100%. Thus, reducing the amount of nitrate in vegetables can be an effective measure to lower the systemic nitrate exposure of the general population. However, other aspects, such as the costs to produce vegetables with a low nitrate content and the possible beneficial effects of nitrate in vegetables, need to be considered when evaluating the usefulness of such a measure.

Source: Toxicol Lett. 2008 Oct 1;181(3):177-81. Epub 2008 Aug 3. LinksThe oral bioavailability of nitrate from nitrate-rich vegetables in humans.
van Velzen AG, Sips AJ, Schothorst RC, Lambers AC, Meulenbelt J.
National Poisons Information Centre, National Institute for Public Health and the Environment, P.O. Box 1, 3720 BA Bilthoven, The Netherlands. [email protected]

4. A diet rich in fruits and vegetables is associated with a lower risk of certain forms of cancer and cardiovascular disease, but the mechanisms behind this protection are not completely understood. Recent epidemiological studies suggest a cardioprotective action afforded specifically by green leafy vegetables. We here propose that these beneficial effects are related to the high content of inorganic nitrate, which in concert with symbiotic bacteria in the oral cavity is converted into nitrite, nitric oxide, and secondary reaction products with vasodilating and tissue-protective properties.

Source: Nitric Oxide. 2006 Dec;15(4):359-62. Epub 2006 Mar 24. LinksCardioprotective effects of vegetables: is nitrate the answer?
Lundberg JO, Feelisch M, Bjorne H, Jansson EA, Weitzberg E.
Department of Physiology and Pharmacology, Karolinska Institutet 171 77, Stockholm, Sweden. [email protected]


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Posted by Catherine (Seattle, Washington USA) on 06/06/2009

The mini beet protocal sounds very interesting. I got on the web and started researching beets! My first results: 2 cups of beet juice a day lowers blood pressure.

http://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/news/20080208/beet-juice-lowers-blood-pressure

Feb. 8, 2008 -- Drinking two cups of beet juice a day may reduce blood pressure, a study shows.

The British researchers who conducted the study say the findings add even more weight to the importance of eating a diet rich in fruits and vegetables.

That's because beets (known as beetroot in Britain) are loaded with the nutrient nitrate. Spinach, lettuce, and other green, leafy vegetables also have high levels of nitrate.

Previous studies have shown that eating a diet high in fruits and vegetables lowers blood pressure. Antioxidants often get the credit, but several recent studies have suggested that nitrates may play a much bigger role. How nitrates work to lower blood pressure has been more of mystery.
How Nitrates May Lower Blood Pressure

In the study, 14 healthy volunteers drank 500 milliliters (2 cups) of Planet Organic beet juice or water within 30 minutes. The researchers checked the participants' blood pressure every 15 minutes one hour before they drank the juice and every 15 minutes three hours after drinking the beet juice. They also checked every hour to six hours and then at 24 hours after they drank the beet juice.

Compared with the water drinkers, blood pressure dropped one hour after the volunteers drank the beet juice. It reached its lowest point 2.5 to 3 hours after ingestion and continued to have an effect for up to 24 hours.

Here's how it works: Nitrate in the beet juice is converted by bacteria living on the tongue into the chemical nitrite. Once it enters the stomach, it becomes nitric oxide or re-enters the blood stream as nitrite. The researchers found that blood pressure was at its lowest when the nitrite levels in the blood were at their highest.

The nitrites, the researchers write, work by protecting against endothelial dysfunction, which means that blood vessels have trouble expanding or contracting to handle changes in blood flow. They also have anti-platelet properties.

"Our research suggests that drinking beetroot juice, or consuming other nitrate-rich vegetables, might be a simple way to maintain a healthy cardiovascular system, and might also be an additional approach that one could take in the modern-day battle against rising blood pressure," says Amrita Ahluwalia, PhD, one of the study's researchers. Ahluwalia is a professor at the William Harvey Research Institute at Barts and The London School of Medicine.

The study is published in the Feb. 4 online edition of the journal Hypertension.

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Posted by Betty (Vero Beach, Fl) on 08/16/2009

Not having a juicer, I drink an organic beet juice powder mixed with 2 teaspoons of water occasionally. As I become more accustom to the taste I will drink a cup daily, hopefully, as a blood pressure control. I am 78 years old and my diet is mostly fruits and vegetables and nuts.


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Posted by Deirdre (Earth Clinic) on 06/04/2009

Thank you PR from Houston, Texas, for the mention of the mini beet protocol. I was so intrigued when you sent us the link a few weeks ago, I decided to start the protocol and create a new page on Earth Clinic! I am hoping many of our readers with juicers will try this too since the mini-beet protocol is reported to cure many ailments. In my case I hope to cure a tough case of nail fungus and severely cracked heels. Had the cracked heels for years, but the fungus has appeared more recently. My topical applications of the remedies on EC for nail fungus have not done much. It's time for internal action!

I followed the MBP instructions exactly today and did my 1 teaspoon of cinnamon in a small amount of water, followed by a bigger cup of water. I waited 15 minutes while I juiced 1 beet and 5 stalks of asparagus, which yielded 1/3 cup of each (Robert recommendation for the first week). After I quickly drank the juice (didn't taste bad whatsoever, very surprising), I quickly ate an apple and then a carrot. Am happy to report there was no nausea, exactly as Robert reports on his website. I need to make a trip to Whole Foods to buy all organic ingredients soon as asparagus contains one of the highest amounts of pesticides! Our local grocery stores carry organic apples, but not beets or asparagus.

If anyone knows where to buy organic cinnamon in bulk, please send along the recommendation. Thanks!

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Posted by T (Maryland, USA) on 06/04/2009

Mountain Rose Herbs sells bulk organic cinnamon. Love that site/company even though the shipping cost is painful! Hopefully your heels soon won't be ;) Looking forward to your update on the MBP!

EC: Thanks for the suggestion T! I will check them out for the cinnamon.

Apparently asparagus isn't as high in pesticides as other vegetables... here's a link to a website called Shopper's Guide to Pesticide that someone recommended recently on Earth Clinic Planet: http://www.foodnews.org/fulllist.php

Deirdre


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Posted by PR (Houston, Texas) on 06/05/2009

Hi Deirdre, You are welcome and I am glad you are trying the Beet Protocol. Your are right it doesn't taste bad and will bring great results. As Robert would say removing the toxins from our body will help our bodies to stay youthful, and the beet protocol does a great job of this. It is great you created a new page for the Mini Beet Protocol and it will be interesting to see the post from others using the protocol when it catches on.

I like listening to Robert's teachings online as he share some real helpful jewels that I haven't learned anywhere else. Robert has a great way of looking at the over picture of how nutrients work in and with the body. Especially being careful to keep balance in your body when using herbs and nutrients. I am looking forward to your future postings as you progress with Mini Beet Protocol.


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Posted by Theo (Ottawa, Ontario, Canada) on 06/21/2009

Hi Deirdre,

I was a little saddened to read your message about having stopped the Mini-Beet Protocol (MBP). Any chance you are going to try this again? One of the things I love most about EarthClinic is the empirical evidence. Unlike many other websites filled with noise, EarthClinic's members experiment with folk remedies/claims and report the results. This is why EarthClinic is so helpful.

With that said, MBP is making some pretty big curative claims here. I have read Robert's website and listened to all 4 hours of audio posted. To me, the following items stuck out as rather unbelievable:

- Crow's Feet
- Love Handles & Cellulite
- Gray Hair
- Hair Loss (Listen to the 2008-07-12 audio at the 01:20 mark. Apparently carrot's and MPB will guarantee no hair loss.)



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