Better But With Side Effects
I've been on MBP for 5 weeks or so by now and want to share my experience along with a couple of suggestions on how to reduce side effects.
I followed the protocol to the letter. I was fine the first 3 weeks while increasing the amount gradually from 1/4 cup of beet juice to full cup with no side effects. When I started 3/4 cup on my 3rd week, it was noticably more difficult to finish the glass, with a very slight nausea following the juice. A few other minor side effects such as headache and sore throat also felt, but very mildly. The very first full cup however, caused a severe nausea, and the second day full cup caused vomitting. But I also was in a hurry that day, literally pushing down the juice and 3 apples, and 2 carrots. So I have reduced the amount to 3/4 cups for another week. At the same time, I slowed fown the consumption speed, and added Apple Cider Vinegar 2TB to the juice. I've never had any side effects since then. Now I've been at least a week on a full cup MBP 2 TB ACV, taking in the juice slowly, and having just 1 or 2 apples and one carrot after, and not feeling any nausea at all. My husband, who was taking a short version of MBP, because he could not tolerate cinnamon, was taking it still a little bit harder than me, having sore throat and headache for the most part of the day after MBP. He followed my advice to drink slower, and with ACV, and he stopped having these side effects, too. So it seemed to work for us to be able to continue with MBP. It is still not easy, but quite tolerable.
Now benefits... Nothing dramatic happend after a month:(. My main health concern was chronic sinus inflammation, which seemed to be better the first week, but now is just as bad as ever.
However, I have a definite energy increase. A few days I missed MBP, I felt my energy level going to usual low level. My face skin became noticably younger, with fewer and shorter outbreaks. I dropped no more than a pound, but I certainly feel lighter with less abdomen bloating. Also, we did not get sick this fall, with so many sick people around. Even my husband, who is very succeptible to sore throat, with his recent overwork and a couple of chills, was sick for only 1 day, which is VERY FAST recovery for him. He had absolutely no time to get down, so we were so happy he did not, I credit MBP for that. My hair loss is reduced, the last period passed easier, my emotional state also seems to be slightly more balanced. So, yes, I certainly can see the benefits of MBP, even though we were on a full serving for only a week. I am looking forward for tackling my sinus and weight loss.
(New York, Ny)
I started the mbp 4 days ago. I started slow with 1/4 cup beet and asparagus. All was well until day 4 or so. I got an intense headache that no matter how many apples I ate it did not help. Then recently I woke up one morning with the worst neck ache that has lasted for 2 days now, causing major headaches. On the one hand I was a little happy thinking these are some major hex. reactions, but at the same time, I am struggling to keep going. The headaches I can manage, it's the neck ache I cannot. Also, I did notice my candida flared up pretty bad early on, maybe possibly my parasites as well.
Anyone else experience anything like this? I will say, I just very well might be cleaning up a pretty toxic system, and I could be on the right track. I feel like this is die-off like I have never experienced from anything I have tried in the past. Sorry for the loooooong post... Still hopeful in Seattle!
I know it was not the power of suggestion in my case. I had never heard of this site much less the MBP. Over the past summer, when I started juicing different concoctions I used a couple of large organic beets thrown in with some other greens and it laid me out flat from severe nausea, shaking, heart pounding, sweating. I definitely felt like I was having some sort of an "episode"(lol:)) I couldn't understand -- this sort of thing had never happened before. The only difference was the beets!!
I tried the mini-beet protocol but I didn't manage to do it more than once. I don't mind beet juice mixed with other vegetables or fruits but drinking that juice every day made me want to throw up. Too bad because it sounds like really good stuff. My body kind of rejected the idea. I need to drink different juices every day. Still, nowadays I try to include beets and asparagus in my juices more often.
Hi all. I finally got my ___ juicer. It was a Christmas present. I really like it! I tried to make beet and asparagus juice with it for the first time yesterday. I was going for one cup (1/3 cup asparagus & 1/2 cup beet juice). But I really overdid it and blended much more. Not wanting to waste any, I drank it all, which was much, much more than the one cup I intended to make. I ate my apple and carrot afterwards, but skipped the cinnamon before drinking the juice. Needless to say, I got so very, very sick. I up-chucked everywhere, all over everything. It was a hard lesson well learned. I will never, ever do that again. Robert clearly states that you must start out slowly. Disobedience has its price and I paid it. I am definitely going to slow down today and do it right. I am not deterred, just a little stupid sometimes. I will keep you posted on my results. By the way, has anyone heard anything from Robert Von Sarbacher? Thanks for listening!
The MBP sounds great, but is there a way to do it if you have allergies, particularly to raw to fruit/veggies?
To explain; My husband has worked in landscaping for many years, and the first seven years he worked with a company that used pesticides, and did not allow workers to use respirators or any protection. Now he uses mostly organic, but still have to use them occasionally, and with more caution. He has severe allergies every spring for months, (running and swollen eyes, feverish, sneezing uncontrollably, runny nose etc)... and cannot eat raw apples or now any fruit raw, without getting a dry, itchy metallic flavor in mouth/throat. Since we got together, I have slowly started getting the same allergies over the last 5 years, and the other day I could only take a bite of Apple, had to leave the rest; severe itchy/ dry metallic taste mouth/throat. We eat almost completely organic at home, although he doesn't stick to it as much as me... we eat a lot of tortillas, maize, beans, meat and try to include veggies/fruit every day in some form.
i love raw fruits and veggies, and don't know how to do a detox since we both react to them. (Lettuce, tomatoes, and greens seem fine raw) Cooked anything seems to be fine... Even strawberries I have to cook slightly, just a minute or so, to make a pudding or marmalade, and then we can eat them. Same with Apples; if I make apple sauce or apple pie we're fine, but raw; No...
What can I do? Could it be allergies related to Salicylates? Why has his allergies transfered to me? Could it be residual pesticides in his body? Is there a detox that can cure that?
Thank You so much to everyone who posts, this is wonderful. I wish to detox, I have so much pain, but don't know how to start...
(Louisville, Ky, Usa)
(Palo Alto, Ca)
(Louisville, Ky, Usa)
Well all this reading has spurred me on to do this protocol... BUT was wondering, as I'm the lazyish type (efficient perhaps?), could I juice and blend the beetroot, fennel, carrot and celery one after the other and drink this as ONE drink or do I have to drink them separately? Well my stomach is going to blend them altogether anyway.
Thanks for everyone's information. I've spent hours reading posts on fibromyalgia on EC as I'm going round in circles trying to find the best treatment for myself.
(Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa)
Hi Wendy, The mini beet protocol is quite powerful! My personal opinion is that once a day would be plenty. When I did this, I would drink it first thing in the morning to get into my system. I never saw it as replacing a meal but then again I never eat breakfast. Instead, I juice, drink my Chinese herbs, have my probiotic drink or maybe some kefir. I don't eat solids in the morning and that works best for me.
I'm not so sure you would want to be doing the mini beet protocol 5x a day! Perhaps in the morning and then other veggie juices. I say that because it's pretty intense and I think others who have experienced this would agree. Hope this helps, Lisa
The mini beet protocol looks a little scary and I don't have a juicer. I recently found Trader Joe's Beet & Purple Carrot 100% Juice. Would this have any of the health benefits of mbp? Would eating apples after the drink be of any help or can I forget that?
Better But With Side Effects
Hello all! I love this site. I've been here many times, reading the day away while I should be working, but as you already know, it's too interesting and informative to resist. Kudos to those who keep it organized and non-commercial for it is truly one of the best sites on the web. I wanted to offer my own experiences with the MVP as well as throw out a few questions.
First, my history: I have always eaten healthily. I was not raised on junk food, and my biggest offenses were a bit of wine, ice cream, and some other things. But my diet has almost always been raw organic plant based, with a little lean fish or poultry thrown in. So, that being said, I suffer from a sluggish metabolism (extremely low rate of bowel movement, if you must know), which my mother suffers from and as do many other women, I hear. Also, I was diagnosed with candida by a naturopath. I have had severe lower back pain for several years though I see I chiropractor, accupuncturist and Asian herbologist. Overall, I am very healthy yet need to lose 30 lbs of weight. Sorry for this, just think it's helpful background.
So I did a 30 day severe yeast cleanse recommended by the naturopath, and never cheated one iota. It did not get rid of the candida as far as I know and I didn't lose 1lb, althugh my boyfriend, who did it with me, lost 15 and is still going strong, though he's no longer doing the yeast cleanse. In fact I gained a couple of pounds and my belly swelled up. So thinking I was reacting badly to something (she had us switch to coconut milk, and sheep or goat cheese, for example) I stopped the protocol, and after much searching around, adopted the MBP. Again, I followed to the letter for two weeks, while eating some other things, ie cooked spinach with olive oil, which he recomends, and so on. Again, not one pound lost, though I hope it is working with the candida. AS he explains, the beets are like a trojan horse: they lure out the fungi with their sweetness, then whammo--obliteration! Also, for those who have eliminated the apples, Robert says that the beets--apples--carrots combo work in conjunction with each one another.
The beets go in first and do a clean sweep, then the apples get what the beets missed, then the carrots get into the nooks and crannies--or something like that. So the apples are not just for nausea. Also, there is a more recent podcast one the web from 3//2010. Radio One Network, if you do a search yoi will find it. He has a ton of info on there, including HGH, getting rid of gray hair, and some other things. Someone on one of the interviews suggested throwing a lemon in the mix in order to keep the beets down--and after experiencing one minor bought of nasuea (i had gone up to a cup of beets after one week of 1/4 at that point) I started adding 1/2 lemon to the juicer and no more nasuea. I have maintained a cup of beets plus asparagus a day now followed by 1 1/2 apples for about 2-3 weeks.
As for my constitution--the beets work wonders. Never has anything worked as well as this.
My belly still is swollen, though. I am off dairy and wheat completely except for the occaisonal hi-quality yogurt. So, the beets and asparagus are ideally drunk 3 or more times a day if I understand Robert correctly. But I can only manage 1-2 times. I'm going to go down to tue-wed-thu, which Robert suggests is ideal for the rest of your life. We'll see. Incidentally, I've done an exhaustive search on the internet and can find no other information on Robert Von Sarbacher than what's been mentioned here. He seems to be in the finance industry, and obsessed with anti-aging (he used to drink four cups of carrot juice every day in college) began using himself as a guinea pig. That and prayer, he says, led him to the beet protocol.
Obviously, he spent some time in Mexico working on ridding people of flouride poisoning. I'm interested to hear if anyone knows anything more. I'll try to update with my progress. If anyone can address my swollen belly and lack of wieght loss I would be grateful. My naturopath says it may take years of experimentation to find out what works and what doesn't. I hope to circumvent that. Thanks, and good luck!
Hi, I've been reading through this site for the past 6 months or so and have found it very useful! Thanks, EC! I just started the MBP this morning but I have been juicing for the past couple of weeks with things like beets, fennel, cilantro, celery etc. I do have a question. Is it necessary to take the cinammon? I suffer from GERD and I don't know if that is what caused my extreme reaction to the cinammon shot with water. I did it on an empty stomach first thing in the morning and I was hit by so much nausea and bloating all at once followed by typical GERD symptoms. I can handle the juices and apples but don't think that I can do the cinammon. I want to try the asparagus and beets first because of the good results I read about. So long story short... Will it still work if I don't do the cinammon?
(Etobicoke, Ontario, Canada)
Raw beet juice is very effective and the liver is taking it very seriously. Only a 1/4 cup at a time is the beneficial amount. Some people even have to work their way up to that amount slowly. Peace