Mini Beet Protocol by Robert Von Sarbacher

I have been doing this up for my husband and myself now for more than a month. Initially, my husband got a sever headache which lasted about 24 hours. Since then, he has been fine. I chose the second simpler protocol in Roberts web site (www.robertvon.com) which was easier but still nutritious. The benefits have been numerous: better skin, digestion & sleep, more energy, feel lighter, am losing weight and walking faster and farther. To be fair, I am doing other things as well, but this is the main thing.

As I read the other entries, I see that other people are having problems. On his website, the second protocol calls for specific amounts. I believe it says:

"Separately measured out : 1 cup of beets juiced, 1 cup of fennel juiced, 1 cup of 50/50 carrot/celery.... That's it!!!! Drink down and eat one apple afterward".

Since my first one, I have had not problems. It is so beneficial that it is worth reading my reference site above for additional information to go with both protocols.

In the mean time ... To our health!

I started the mbp 4 days ago. I started slow with 1/4 cup beet and asparagus. All was well until day 4 or so. I got an intense headache that no matter how many apples I ate it did not help. Then recently I woke up one morning with the worst neck ache that has lasted for 2 days now, causing major headaches. On the one hand I was a little happy thinking these are some major hex. reactions, but at the same time, I am struggling to keep going. The headaches I can manage, it's the neck ache I cannot. Also, I did notice my candida flared up pretty bad early on, maybe possibly my parasites as well.

Anyone else experience anything like this? I will say, I just very well might be cleaning up a pretty toxic system, and I could be on the right track. I feel like this is die-off like I have never experienced from anything I have tried in the past. Sorry for the loooooong post... Still hopeful in Seattle!

BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS

Hello all! I love this site. I've been here many times, reading the day away while I should be working, but as you already know, it's too interesting and informative to resist. Kudos to those who keep it organized and non-commercial for it is truly one of the best sites on the web. I wanted to offer my own experiences with the MVP as well as throw out a few questions.

First, my history: I have always eaten healthily. I was not raised on junk food, and my biggest offenses were a bit of wine, ice cream, and some other things. But my diet has almost always been raw organic plant based, with a little lean fish or poultry thrown in. So, that being said, I suffer from a sluggish metabolism (extremely low rate of bowel movement, if you must know), which my mother suffers from and as do many other women, I hear. Also, I was diagnosed with candida by a naturopath. I have had severe lower back pain for several years though I see I chiropractor, accupuncturist and Asian herbologist. Overall, I am very healthy yet need to lose 30 lbs of weight. Sorry for this, just think it's helpful background.

So I did a 30 day severe yeast cleanse recommended by the naturopath, and never cheated one iota. It did not get rid of the candida as far as I know and I didn't lose 1lb, althugh my boyfriend, who did it with me, lost 15 and is still going strong, though he's no longer doing the yeast cleanse. In fact I gained a couple of pounds and my belly swelled up. So thinking I was reacting badly to something (she had us switch to coconut milk, and sheep or goat cheese, for example) I stopped the protocol, and after much searching around, adopted the MBP. Again, I followed to the letter for two weeks, while eating some other things, ie cooked spinach with olive oil, which he recomends, and so on. Again, not one pound lost, though I hope it is working with the candida. AS he explains, the beets are like a trojan horse: they lure out the fungi with their sweetness, then whammo--obliteration! Also, for those who have eliminated the apples, Robert says that the beets--apples--carrots combo work in conjunction with each one another.

The beets go in first and do a clean sweep, then the apples get what the beets missed, then the carrots get into the nooks and crannies--or something like that. So the apples are not just for nausea. Also, there is a more recent podcast one the web from 3//2010. Radio One Network, if you do a search yoi will find it. He has a ton of info on there, including HGH, getting rid of gray hair, and some other things. Someone on one of the interviews suggested throwing a lemon in the mix in order to keep the beets down--and after experiencing one minor bought of nasuea (i had gone up to a cup of beets after one week of 1/4 at that point) I started adding 1/2 lemon to the juicer and no more nasuea. I have maintained a cup of beets plus asparagus a day now followed by 1 1/2 apples for about 2-3 weeks.

As for my constitution--the beets work wonders. Never has anything worked as well as this.

My belly still is swollen, though. I am off dairy and wheat completely except for the occaisonal hi-quality yogurt. So, the beets and asparagus are ideally drunk 3 or more times a day if I understand Robert correctly. But I can only manage 1-2 times. I'm going to go down to tue-wed-thu, which Robert suggests is ideal for the rest of your life. We'll see. Incidentally, I've done an exhaustive search on the internet and can find no other information on Robert Von Sarbacher than what's been mentioned here. He seems to be in the finance industry, and obsessed with anti-aging (he used to drink four cups of carrot juice every day in college) began using himself as a guinea pig. That and prayer, he says, led him to the beet protocol.

Obviously, he spent some time in Mexico working on ridding people of flouride poisoning. I'm interested to hear if anyone knows anything more. I'll try to update with my progress. If anyone can address my swollen belly and lack of wieght loss I would be grateful. My naturopath says it may take years of experimentation to find out what works and what doesn't. I hope to circumvent that. Thanks, and good luck!

To Groundskeeperpdx, the purpose of the cinnamon on the mini beet protocol (MBP) is to lower your blood sugar level before you ingest lots of sugar in the beet juice. Therefore it defeats the purpose if you add honey to the cinnamon. So take it alone or leave it alone. Taking cinnamon is not a must, it is just better for you during the MBP.

I tried the mini-beet protocol but I didn't manage to do it more than once. I don't mind beet juice mixed with other vegetables or fruits but drinking that juice every day made me want to throw up. Too bad because it sounds like really good stuff. My body kind of rejected the idea. I need to drink different juices every day. Still, nowadays I try to include beets and asparagus in my juices more often.

Question about MBP:

I am about to start on MBP and was suprised to read about nausea following beet juise drinking. Some years ago when I was started using juices my favourite was a large beetroot drink with a dollop of cream and a few drops of vanilla..nectar from heaven!! I never noticed any nausea. Beetroot is my second favourite vegetable (the 1st is spinach) and I have had to stop buying tins of baby beets because once started I can't stop until the tin is empty (I'm talking a LARGE tin here). Also when I go to OZ I haunt the vege juice bar at Davy Jones in Sydney where I always order a large beetroot and spinach juice. If this kind of beet ingestion should cause nausea then why doesn't it affect me like that? Or does it mean I have a higher requirement for beet juice?? I'd be interested in any comments on this, Cheers

Today is my third day on the mini-beet protocol. I'm using one tsp of cinnamon in about 2 or 3 oz of water, chased by another 2 or 3 oz of water to wash it down. I'm only taking 1/4 cup of beet juice and 1/4 cup of asparagus juice (starting out slowly).

I eat one apple (any kind) and one or two carrots after drinking the juices.

Yesterday morning, the second day on the protocol, I woke up to find my abdomen had noticeably flattened out and a lot of the cellulite I had on there had disappeared. I still have some cellulite, but it is not nearly as much...and this was only the second day.

My lupus (muscle pains) and rheumatoid arthritis have slightly improved, too, with the protocol. Over the past few years, I've lost about 140 lbs, but even when I got up to 600 crunches at the gym, my abdomen just would not budge (the fat and cellulite refused to leave). The mini-beet protocol has helped with that and with other symptoms I have. My fingers turn white or blue (supposedly Raynaud's) whenever I get in the shower or wash my hands (fluoridated water). One month, I stayed at a place with a whole house filter (removes fluoride, chlorine, etc). My fingers STOPPED turning colors and getting so cold.

This mini-beet protocol seems to help with fluoride poisoning, too. My weight loss? It started by using progesterone cream and following a gluten free diet. It's amazing how the carb cravings stopped. I do NOT follow any diet (other than avoiding gluten). I pretty much eat whatever I want. I AVOID diet foods, artificial sweeteners, and processed or "fake" foods. I DO eat fat (NON-hydrogenated coconut oil or extra virgin olive oil, usually) - I think this has helped my skin while losing weight. I don't diet, but I make sure I exercise enough to keep my weight down. My heaviest known weight was 313 lbs. I weighed 174 at the doctor office yesterday. I wear a womens size medium. Resistance training helps a lot, too. BTW - I am type 2 diabetic, also. My blood sugars used to run in the 300's. My last reading was 88. I refused to go on insulin (the fat storing hormone that reportedly CAUSES plaquing of the arteries). I didn't see how taking a FAT STORING hormone like insulin would help me to improve when I was still making some insulin of my own. As for the mini-beet protocol, I'll try to make one or two future posts over the next few months on my progress.

Hi all. I finally got my ___ juicer. It was a Christmas present. I really like it! I tried to make beet and asparagus juice with it for the first time yesterday. I was going for one cup (1/3 cup asparagus & 1/2 cup beet juice). But I really overdid it and blended much more. Not wanting to waste any, I drank it all, which was much, much more than the one cup I intended to make. I ate my apple and carrot afterwards, but skipped the cinnamon before drinking the juice. Needless to say, I got so very, very sick. I up-chucked everywhere, all over everything. It was a hard lesson well learned. I will never, ever do that again. Robert clearly states that you must start out slowly. Disobedience has its price and I paid it. I am definitely going to slow down today and do it right. I am not deterred, just a little stupid sometimes. I will keep you posted on my results. By the way, has anyone heard anything from Robert Von Sarbacher? Thanks for listening!

I started the Mini Beet Protocol on November 28 and today will be my fourth day on it. No problems the first day, actually felt good all over. 2nd day, had several loose bowel movements and pain in my lower back. Not knowing if this might be kidney stones or not, I downed 2 ounces of lemon juice mixed with 2 ounces of olive oil...The pain was gone on the 3rd day and that day was normal.

I plan to keep going and I believe going very slowly will be the key. I plan on staying on the 1/4 cup of beet and asparagus for at least 10 days and then I will either do it twice a day or move up to a 1/2 of cup each.( probably will up the dose, because the cleaning up of the juicer is the biggest problem I am having. It is a PAIN! )

Anyone know if you are suppose to juice the green leaves of the beets also? I have been cutting them off and disgarding them. I also read somewhere that beets should be peeled before juicing, I have not been doing this either, I juice peel and all.

I wash my beets and asparagus in a soak of water and Hydrogen Peroxide and rinse real good ( They are not ORGANIC ) I have read you can use a vinegar or grapefruit seed extract liquid mixture in water to clean your veggies. So ROBERT,if you are reading this, please let me know what that VEGGIE WASH is that you use.

I really am shooting for at least a 3 month period of this and maybe four, so slowly I go and hopefully I want have to stop it or have any bad side effects. I will post again after the 10th day.

Well it is day 10 of the MBP for me. Unfortunately, for me after I posted here on day 3, my right ear began to hurt, my scalp was very sore and my throat became scratchy. I know that Robert says that you should take your time and even doing the protocol 3 days a week, it will help you alot. Also he says even the slightest sore throat and you should stop until youre 100%. Maybe I just had sinus or something, but my blood is probably some of the filthiest around. I have been fast food, white bread, alcohol and junk food the majority of my life. SO SLOWLY, I do this, because I want to be healthy. I have No nausea at all though.

So I started back today as I started feeling better around day 7, but wanted to be 100%. I plan on doing this for a long time to come. So I will be carful, not to make myself sick off of it.

Well Lisa, I have the Jack LaLanne power juicer and it has 6 parts that has to be cleaned, You have to assemble it and dis-assemble it all the way and clean and dry it compleatly. I read about the one you have and it sounds easier to clean up. As for ORGANIC, I wish I had a source near by. But I live in a very small town and it is not a wealthy area, so the Wal-Mart super center here does not carry alot of organics. I have to drive 45 to 60 minutes one way to get to the town that carries organics. I could afford the organics, I just don't like that long drive and gas cost. My beets seem to stay good for a long time, but my Asparagus goes bad ( Soggy slimey ) in just a few days. So I would probably have to make 2 trips a week. If I am down that way, I will pick up the organics.

I am very excited, I just wish I had not had the set back, but I am determined to do this thing and clean myself up.

The beets are to be raw for juicing. Yes, they will break a blender. Even with a strong juice machine I cut them up before juicing. While you save up for a juicer, you can eat raw beets by peeling and finely slicing or grating and then eating the beet. It will take a bit of commitment to do that but well worth it. Start with half a small beet. Eat a small apple and carrot afterwards.

Good luck.

Mini Beet Protocol: Read about the MBP some time ago, just bought a juicer, had all the ingredients so I gave it a try today. Mixed 1 tsp. cinnamon in 2 tbsp. warm water and drank...it tasted fine...followed that with a cup of water...juiced 1/4 cup asparagus, 1/4 cup beets, mixed together and drank... tasted like beet juice, really no asparagus taste to it...then ate a large apple followed by 10 baby carrots...no nausea...I feel just fine...will continue to follow this increasing amount of juice each week as directed. I am 51 and hoping to see an improvement in wrinkles and cellulite. I am 7 lbs. away from my goal weight and need to firm up my body. Will report back each week.

Mini Beet Protocol update: My first post was 11/03/09 and I started the MBP that day. It's been one week and I haven't noticed any changes in wrinkles or cellulite yet. I have noticed that I've been able to accomplish more things in my day. Seems like an increase in energy without feeling like you've had too much caffeine. Also, according to Robert Von an important part of this is to take 100mg of B6 and 300mg of magnesium daily to avoid the possibility of developing kidney stones from using the MBP. I started that today. Tomorrow I am increasing the juice to 1/2 cup asparagus and 1/2 cup beet. I am cautious about trying to do too much too soon so I'm sticking with the MBP as written. Will report back again in one week.

Mini beet protocol update: I'm sorry to say I can no longer continue with the MBP. During my 2nd week I experienced problems with bloating and a sick feeling stomach. So I finished the 2nd week and decided not to go on to the 3rd which would be the full amount of beet juiced to equal one cup and asparagus juiced to equal 3/4 cup. I can't think of anything that I was doing that would cause these problems other than the MBP. I'd like to hear if anyone else has had these problems or success with the MBP. Thanks.

Sorry to hear you're giving up. I think it may be that you were moving too fast. To be honest, we stayed with the straight mini beet protocol for only about a week and then through lots of research began to add in lots of dark greens in addition to the beet/asparagus mixture. We have had nothing but incredible results which you can read about in all my previous posts as I have been giving updates as promised when my husband and I first began this journey almost a month and a half ago. Our bodies are singing praise and my pain is gone. To everyone suffering with body pain/arthritis- it's due to too much cooked food and not enough raw veggies/greens and fruit. It all has to do with the enzymes that our body really needs. Since embarking on this, I have tried eating cooked food meals 3x and about a half hour afterward the pain immediately returns. It is so debilitating that as of last night, my husband said to me, "That's it, I think we can see a direct correlation between your physical pain and the food." Yesterday, started with a green smoothie- of which we have moved on to instead of just juicing as both of our bodies are in much better shape to be able to handle this after strengthening them through pure juicing. For lunch, a raw soup-gently warmed and salad. Dinner was an Israeli salad which was diced tomatoes, cucumbers, parsley, green onion and red onion and portabello mushrooms with mushroom "gravy". Oh sing praise! Body pain completely gone again. The benefits just keep coming!

To Janice from Coloma, Mi- I hope you're reading this because it isn't just broccoli but all dark greens and yes, they must be raw.

To Belladonna from Toronto- a shout out to the delicious green smoothie!

To Taleen from Ft. Lauderdale, Fl- all I can say is the money spent for organic veggies and staying healthy is money well-spent. We could be paying doctors thousands of dollars instead and I'd rather be in charge of my own health. I think if you see it as an investment into your own well-being, it's well worth it. After all, you've lost weight and have glowing skin! That's only the outside! Think of all your insides thanking you for what you're giving them.

Here's to our health! Lisa

Hi Yankee... yes, sorry, I forgot about that post/update...I tried the mini beet only for a short while since my body found the beets too sweet... & naturally rejected it. I didn't find it of any noticable benefit over other juicing... Like carrots ginger etc... But I do believe it is a healthy juice. As for the claims, I didn't stick with it long enough to find out... My guess is that the asparagus juicing with beets would be good for the liver... And good for a hangover... As far as hair and fading wrinkles... Well I doubt it.... But anything good for the liver will help the skin... Go with the advice of others who have tested it for a longer run....

Hi everyone, Well, today I begin week 2 of the mini beet protocol. I have not had any side effects whatsoever from drinking the concoction which I have upped each day after the third day of starting at 1/4 combo of the beet/asparagus juice. The first 3 days I followed up with apple and then carrot. On the fourth day I eliminated the carrot as I had no side effects at all. No side effects. On day 5,6 and 7 I added carrot to the beet/asparagus combo and did not do the apple afterward with no side effects. NOW, I am NOT saying for everyone to follow suit. I am just documenting what I have done. Robert clearly states that there can be serious side effects depending on one's quality of diet. I have a very clean diet of vegetables and meat and fish. I do drink red wine with dinner as well. No sugar, junk food, fast food, desserts. Not because I have to try but, just because I don't want them. I do eat bread but not too much. As for noticing changes- I have noticed that very little hair falls out while washing, maybe 3-4 now. My husband has noticed that the front of his hairline has lots of new hair coming in. Now, mind you neither of us has thinning hair but, two years ago I had a severe reaction to dying my hair. I have very dark brown hair but covered up my greying. Well, it was so bad and I was losing chunks of hair which scared me enough to completely stop coloring it. Now I have a lot of grey hair but still a lot of my dark hair. I am hoping that perhaps this MBP will arrest the grey but we have yet to see. I really don't have that many issues from the long list of what MBP can do but, I am always trying things to better my health and this sounded very healthy. I can say my skin has dramatically become very soft and my facial appearance is changing in that the lines by my eyes are disappearing. Is anyone else doing the MBP out there? Post results if you are. By the way, I think the drink is delicious for anyone wondering.

Hi Everyone!

I haven't written here for quite awhile but I read this site everyday always looking for new info. I had written that I started the mini beet protocol and the last post was about 2 weeks ago. Today marks one month from my first post. I don't want to repeat what I posted the first 2x so I'll continue from my last post. The mbp really got me interested in more info about this but much to my disappointment, there wasn't much on the web other than Robert's very simple site. I also listened to his audio which was quite long but interesting. Well, since there wasn't much more about it, I started going on juicing sites which I began to learn SO much from. Now that my husband and I were up to a large glass of beet/asparagus juice (plus we did not follow it up with the apple/carrot- not recommending one does that, just documenting what we did) I decided to start adding lots of dark greens as many of the juicing sites said greens really benefit us and are full of nutrients and protein that our bodies can readily utilize. Wow! We really started to notice a difference! Then, I decided to start adding in garlic and ginger which is delicious and act as natural antibiotics.

In week 3, we also both started craving our veggie juice, not just in the morning but also about 5pm. We don't eat dinner until about 8 as my work schedule does not permit until then. So, the juice really amped us up in energy. Of course, me, being always curious to know more about health just kept perusing different sites. That led me to the raw food world.

Now, let me tell you, at first I thought,"What? Are these people crazy?" As I was a vegetarian years ago for a long time but then returned to poultry when I was pregnant with my first son when my midwife found me severely anemic and threatened not to let me have a homebirth if she did not see an immediate improvement. (This was a long time ago now. A year later I began to eat beef as well.) I always seemed to have energy issues and obviously very anemic as well as a vegetarian. So, curiously, I began to read more about this "lifestyle" and found lots of sites dedicated to this world. It is fascinating and began to make a lot of sense why these people were so full of energy, looked amazing and much younger than their "real" age. I also could not ignore the fact that through the veggie juice of which we had added kale, chard- all kinds, carrots, radishes, dandelion greens, cucumber, zucchini, apples, cabbage, parsley, cilantro and all sorts of various vegetables but not necessarily all at once, we were seeing all sorts of amazing changes. Lots of energy and a need for less sleep- naturally awake at 5:30 am without even trying. Melasma is something I have had for about 7 years now all over my cheeks and I have tried lots of ways to get rid of it to no avail. Well it is almost completely non-existent at this point. I see a lot of issues with this on this site for those of you plagued with that. All joint pain is gone. (Except, admittedly, my hips still hurt some. Still, after seeing all the results from this juicing, I have hope of that reversing, as well!) My husband who has always dealt with constipation issues has been completely relieved of that. Our skin is so incredibly soft we marvel at it. My eyes are very clear. Also, as Robert von Sarbacher claimed, wrinkles have disappeared on my face. All my pores are very small too of which I have always had problems with large pores and clogged pores trying all sorts of things to remedy that. My hair is growing in dark again of which I have a lot of grey over the last few years. Scalp itch has disappeared, my nail beds are very pink and ridges on the nails are gone. I learned that's from lack of silica of which many people are lacking in.

Anyway, in week 4 I decided I wanted to try giving the raw thing a go. Not radically, just adding in lots more raw. The first 3 days, we had tuna with lots of celery, pickles and onions served over raw tomatoes for lunch. That was it for anything other than raw veggies those days. We both noticed that we began to actually not want meat but in the most natural way- not forced. Now, through learning so much from these various raw sites, I am learning new techniques for food such as raw nut cheeses, nut milks, veggie "pastas", etc. I ended up purchasing a dehydrator to make veggie chips and raw meals. It is a whole new world I am exploring and am so excited about it as I see the amazing changes occurring in the two of us. Also, I have seen miraculous changes in people from these sites with people dropping over 160 lbs, to ridding themselves of many serious issues from fibromyalgia, diabetes, arthritis, chronic depression and fatigue syndrome, etc. I would encourage everyone to just read about it because I see so many things people are plagued with and genuinely want answers to on this site. Google raw food or raw food living/ world, etc. and you will discover truly amazing things! I even went to Borders and found about 5 raw food "cook"books. I bought one called "Raw Food, real world" and have been trying recipes. I also was so impressed with Sarma Melngailis, one of the authors, that I went to her site and loved her blog. She has her own raw food restaurant in NYC and is absolutely beautiful. I emailed her and she wrote me back immediately!

If anyone has questions about sites, people, etc., I would be happy to write and encourage any of you out there.

I realize this is a long post but, I saw a couple of people over the last two days writing about the mbp and I thought I should write my discoveries and real results! I wish you all the best on your quest towards health, happiness and peace.

Sincerely, Lisa

Hi Phil,

We are not taking any supplements per se. We used to do a lot of supplements but don't anymore and have not for a long time. Instead, we are also taking what they call superfoods. They are maca root, goji berries, flaxseed, hempseed and raw cacao. You can read about these and also hear some of the different people speak about them on the internet. One is David Wolfe who wrote Superfoods. You can watch video of him on youtube. Raw cacao is rich in magnesium. We have all of these in powder form and add them to smoothies.

As for the supplements that Robert recommends for preventing kidney stones, there are 3-coral calcium, 1 tbls. cod liver oil and magnesium chloride. Have you had them before and is that the reason for your concern? If not, I would say try the mbp and then go for the dark green veggies in addition- you will be amazed! There is a lot of calcium in very dark green veggies that are readily usable for the human body. It only takes 15 minutes for the benefits to enter the bloodstream. Hope this helps.

mini beet protocol, juicing and raw foods

Today it has been one month and one week since we embarked on the mini beet protocol and I had promised to keep updates. I want to encourage reikigirl to keep going as it just gets better! And Phil- go for it, don't wait any longer because you will see changes that become remarkable. To be honest though, we only stayed with the true mbp for about one and a half weeks before we began juicing, along with the beets and asparagus, kale, chard, carrots, cilantro, celery, zucchini, cucumbers, ginger, garlic- you name it but especially the dark greens. It has sent me on a journey I can't turn back from now as the results are so wonderful. My skin has become very soft, damage from the sun in Hawaii on one of my arms (go figure) was so bad it looked like it was from a 95 year old is gone, wrinkles have disappeared, my skin is becoming firmer, stomach flatter, almost no mucus at all, ridges on nails gone, circles under eyes gone, hair growing in dark... I have become turned onto the raw food world through all of this and trying the superfoods on this planet from all over the world that can be learned about over the internet. They are maca root, goji berries, raw cacao, hemp seeds, chia, mushrooms and more. We are incorporating them in our diets. Maca root will strengthen the adrenals which I had a serious problem with about 4 years ago now, during a very stressful time that struck while I was in NYC and became unbelievably debilitating. Raw cacao is loaded with magnesium and can help stimulate neurotransmitters in the brain to give a better sense of well-being, strengthens the immune system and can absorb free-radicals from the body. I would encourage a lot of you out there to do the research and find out how to build the bodies natural strength and immunity to rid itself from some of these very insidious diseases that are now on this planet and are invading people's bodies but mostly because of poor diets which weaken our systems. Many of you describe them here on this site. Remember, knowledge is power. Do the research but not from doctors! They don't go the route to healing- they use meds, drugs, surgery. Those things don't heal you, just cover up the true source and often exacerbate the problem. That's what they know so, I don't fault them but I stay clear of them. Often, they don't even know of the things I speak of or even acknowledge them, i.e. candida for one. If you mention this, they may even outrightly scoff at you. (There are some doctors out there sincerely trying to give you good info and you can find their sites on the web.) Remember, doctors make their money from you being sick.

Also, you may think some of these products are expensive (not really) but I would rather find my health, be in charge of it and keep it rather then profit the doctors which will cost you a lot more. I think at this point, everyone is aware of that- at least on this site.

I truly hope this info helps those of you out there sincerely on a quest for health and recovering a healthy body. I am seeing the miraculous results each day and loving it! Peace to all of you out there...

Hi Kay! Good for you. I bought a very inexpensive (relatively speaking) juicer from amazon.com. It is the Breville Juice Fountain for $99. I couldn't afford the very high end ones and figured that 1) I could wait while I saved my money to afford one thereby delaying progress or 2) I could go for this one, after all, I didn't know if I would see results, would stick with it at all and wasn't sure if that big investment would pay off. Well, it was the right decision! I saw results quickly. I will give you some tips that I have picked up through my own research on countless sites I have read and studied. I use a lot of greens now in addition to the beets and asparagus and rotate to get different nutrients. As David Wolfe says though, there is no green necessarily better than another- it's all good. Diversity is good though. So, I take the greens- dandelion, beet greens, kale, chard, spinach, etc. and I tightly pack them together into the feed tube then I allow them to slowly move through. I don't force them through with the pusher as you sometimes need to do with the harder vegetables- carrots, beets, etc. I gently apply a little pressure and look at the green juice coming out- as long as that's occurring that's all that needs to be done. The point being to be able to break open the cell walls of the greens as slowly as possible to extract as much juice from them as possible. The higher end very expensive juicers are just that- they grind slowly to extract a lot more out of greens. Perhaps in the future I will invest in one but for now this is working and I am seeing the results exponentially. Especially with going high raw. I am glad to see that you are going the raw way too.

Perhaps you aren't seeing as dramatic results because you were in better health. I always considered myself a healthy food person but I see the difference dramatically now. Each day I crave more raw vegetables and yesterday I tried a cooked meal and it was so disappointing! My husband is in on this with me and this morning he said to me, "Wow, that was not as good as I always remember." It was one of our favorite Indian meals of dal and traditional fare. I said to him that I thought maybe it was just me. I am interested in your progress and any new experiences you are having with this path. Let me know. BTW, I am 52 years young. And the other day, while shopping in Whole Foods, I ran into a mom I knew from our kids- our oldest are now 24 and began kindergarten together. I called out to her and had not seen her for about 3 years- she turned and responded, "My God, don't you age? You have no wrinkles!" Thank you mbp, juicing and raw food! That's how dramatic it has been. Honest. Keep on going Kay- it gets better!

Hi Kay,

So glad I can help! So, have you tried doing the greens yet? I find it works really well. I have only been on the smoothies for a few days now as I needed to strengthen my body first I felt. As for the acne scars, well I have to tell you about aloe vera. I know I wrote about it to someone here but it's worth repeating. I had severe damage to my right arm (nowhere else!) from the sun when we went to Hawaii about 3 years ago now. No matter what I did- coconut oil, grapeseed oil, acv, even strivectin, I could not make my arm look better. It looked like it was from a 90 year old person. Then I heard Daniel Vitalis speak on youtube about aloe vera and immediately went outside to get a leaf from our aloe plant. So far, everything he has said about it has been true. I immediately opened the leaf and spread the gel all over it. By the next day it was already much improved! I also started using it on my face and the skin is getting tauter and very soft and supple. I have been using the same leaf for over a week now and still it is full of gel. After I use it, I press the leaf back together and by the next time I use it, it is rehydrated and ready to use again. So, try it on your face and see if you start to see a difference.

You have to listen to Daniel on youtube because he's very inspiring. Also, David Wolfe- they are at the forefront of this raw food movement and so full of knowledge. It is so inspiring. It has been so fun to explore this world and see how my body sings from it. I hope you are feeling it as well! Keep in touch.

Lisa

To Lisa about the Mini Beet Protocol, please read below.

This is from Robert Von Sarbarcher. hello how r u !! great to meet you... sorry to take so long to get back, my new # is 940-233-0484 and can call anytime and see if we catch each other... in mean time...

Thanx for the "dr." but I'm not a Dr. yet, hehe, and as for Living well, it sounds like a great juicer.... and I will add you to my email list as soon as I have one No worries...

I'm glad it removed the age spots it's amazing how fast those disappear... IBS? great! glad it's gone, and gone for Good hopefully, but we'll talk more on that in a second... as for the straitening of the hair it 100% most definitely will do that!!! esp if you take some of the left overs and when in the shower you put it in and let it sit, I think one friend of mine left it in all day one day and it helped a lot, that is, they put it in their hair after the shower, and when it dried out on it's own, she put a towel down and slept all night on it, and when got up in morning it was straighter, she did this on a continual basis... it straightened it out to a large extent...

yes I guess I'll have to get to that site earthclinic and start typing in some info for people... more on health care for people..

It's really simple to do some items in nutriiton and fix what's wrong with you, faster and cheaper and easier, more is being discovered every day!!! I would do yourself a favor and take a combo of parsnips and carrots and boil them correctly see attachment and make a 50/50 mix almost of carrot and parsnips with butter and salt and pepper...little more parsnips than carrots the key here is the mix to make it justtttttt right, which is why I boil a lot of each then when I get out the masher and mash them all together I have a little bit of both left over so I can put in a littlemore parsnips or carrots to make it freakishly addictive, remember a little more of the parsnips than the carrot!! woo hoo that will drive you up the wall for yippie-ness

ok... as for IBS start consuming one romaine lettuce salad every other day with extra tomatoes for life please, must start with that to get it in you good!

add turnips to diet by putting them in with white onions and broccoli whenever steam or boil veggies... Here's what I do every night, I put in usually these 3 turnips, broccoli, white onion, and sometimes extras like asparagus and yellow squash and parsnips and maybe rhutabega adn sometimes beets, and steam them for 14 mins, and when done, I IMMEDIATELY dump them in plastic bag and dump them into the fridge and when Im up in morning and have enough veggies for all day - this works soooo well and it's sooo easyyyy dang it! lol... this is how you change your life.. and for the cheap... I also get my broccoli and lots of veggies from the asian markets, the absolutely cheapest markets in history to buy anything from and if no organic I used my depesticiging on them... good luck ttys let me know what else happens..

Robert von

PS cooked beets are nothing in comparison to raw, so if you wish to, you eat one beet raw and follow it with one apple every day and this will be your beets instead of MBP ok? try this with getting turnips in you every day and watch what happens to your body.. however, first off I would start off with the 10 day trial - that is, 10 days, 1x/day you are to eat 1 cup of goji berries per day!!! in 10 days yoiu will have the blood of an Olympic Athlete!! ok? it'll cost you about $70 ish or so to do that for 10 days, good luck...see what you feel like after that!

m Robert Von Sarbarcher himself.

hi - i just wanted to say that i used to often enjoy beet juice with carrot juice. then one day i decided to try just straight beet juice. about 10 minute after i ate it i suddenly felt extremely ill and had to rush to the restroom to throw up. it was actually very funny because it was a white marble bathroom and you can imagine what it looked like after i was finished. i never drank straight beet juice again! yes it is very detoxifying stuff! maybe i will try it like this. thanks

Personally, I believe it's actually the potassium content in veg & fruits that lowers blood pressure. Potassium is known to lower blood pressure, possibly because it helps lower inflammation. Getting plenty of veg & fruits (& avoiding inflammatory refined wheat & sugar like the plague) renders my BP ‘perfect'.

Mini Beet Protocol follow up. I faithfully followed Robert's directions for the MBP for exactly a week, drinking 1/4 cup beet and 1/4 cup asparagus juice. One of those days I got a headache shortly after consuming the juice, but other than that, no side effects.

Then, ha ha, I foolishly decided to do a significant increase in the amount of beet juice, even though it was advised against on Robert's website. I was very excited to get on with my detox, you see! On day 8, last Friday to be exact, I drank 3/4 beet and 3/4 cup asparagus. Oh oh oh... The next 20 minutes were terrible! And then the side effects in the ensuing 48 hour were rough! I had to hang near the sink right after drinking the beet juice because of severe, horrendous nausea. I gobbled down 2 apples and 1 carrot, which did help. Finally the nausea passed. I then had severe brain fog for the next 2 days. I couldn't think straight and had a difficult time finding words to communicate. I am not kidding!

Mind blowing side effects - you are not kidding, Robert!!! Uggh. There is NO WAY I could do the Major Beet Protocol of 3 cups of beet juice in one day!! Sad to say, I haven't been able to bring myself to drink more beet juice at the moment. I am instead happily drinking these yummy green smoothies (greens in the blender with various fruits).

So for anyone considerig the mini beet protocol... go very very slowly and up the beet juice in small increments. Otherwise, suffer the consequences like me, the foolish one.

Hi, I am just wondering what else you are allowed to eat on the mini beet protocol? Is there a particular diet you are to follow alongside the beet/asparagus juice in the morning? I couldn't find any diet guidelines so please help me if you know. Thank you guys. Very appreciative of advice.

The MBP sounds great, but is there a way to do it if you have allergies, particularly to raw to fruit/veggies?

To explain; My husband has worked in landscaping for many years, and the first seven years he worked with a company that used pesticides, and did not allow workers to use respirators or any protection. Now he uses mostly organic, but still have to use them occasionally, and with more caution. He has severe allergies every spring for months, (running and swollen eyes, feverish, sneezing uncontrollably, runny nose etc)... and cannot eat raw apples or now any fruit raw, without getting a dry, itchy metallic flavor in mouth/throat. Since we got together, I have slowly started getting the same allergies over the last 5 years, and the other day I could only take a bite of Apple, had to leave the rest; severe itchy/ dry metallic taste mouth/throat. We eat almost completely organic at home, although he doesn't stick to it as much as me... we eat a lot of tortillas, maize, beans, meat and try to include veggies/fruit every day in some form.

i love raw fruits and veggies, and don't know how to do a detox since we both react to them. (Lettuce, tomatoes, and greens seem fine raw) Cooked anything seems to be fine... Even strawberries I have to cook slightly, just a minute or so, to make a pudding or marmalade, and then we can eat them. Same with Apples; if I make apple sauce or apple pie we're fine, but raw; No...

What can I do? Could it be allergies related to Salicylates? Why has his allergies transfered to me? Could it be residual pesticides in his body? Is there a detox that can cure that?

Thank You so much to everyone who posts, this is wonderful. I wish to detox, I have so much pain, but don't know how to start...

Aurora

Thanks Tim; As for our air at home; I'm not sure why I should get a filter? we have windows/doors open all year; we like to hang out or have meals on our patio/garden. No carpets. I dust/mop floors about 2-3 days a week. All natural cleaning products, a few drops of chlorine sometimes to desinfect bath.... I love fresh air! We run an electric heater in winter just for an hour or two/day only as needed.

Update; we've decided to try to do the MBP anyway, just peel the veggies and apple, and see how it goes. I was able to eat a peeled apple fine after the juice this morning! No reaction at all! So it looks like the natural instecticides in the peel of fruit/veggies might be what we both are reacting to.... I wish I would have heard about salicylates before...

As for magnetics: There are no powerlines here, at least above ground that I can see, but it's a thought; where do you get an EMF detector? I seem to feel magnetic fields more than most people....

Thanks Again!

Well all this reading has spurred me on to do this protocol... BUT was wondering, as I'm the lazyish type (efficient perhaps?), could I juice and blend the beetroot, fennel, carrot and celery one after the other and drink this as ONE drink or do I have to drink them separately? Well my stomach is going to blend them altogether anyway.

Thanks for everyone's information. I've spent hours reading posts on fibromyalgia on EC as I'm going round in circles trying to find the best treatment for myself.

Hi Maria, was it only pure beetroot juice you were taking or did you mean the MBP mixture? Fennel and asparagus are very difficult to obtain here, so if good results come from the beetroot only I am ready to give it a solid try. Cheers.

I tried oxalic acid yesterday to try to cure myself and now I have upper back pain and kidney pain, I slept really bad last night too. I strongly don't recommend anyone to take oxalic acid to cure any medical condition.

I have taken maybe 4g maximum

Do anyone have any advice for me to remove this upper back pain/kidney pain/feeling of heavy leg after oxalic acid have been taken?

Thanks

The mini beet protocol looks a little scary and I don't have a juicer. I recently found Trader Joe's Beet & Purple Carrot 100% Juice. Would this have any of the health benefits of mbp? Would eating apples after the drink be of any help or can I forget that?

Hi, I've been reading through this site for the past 6 months or so and have found it very useful! Thanks, EC! I just started the MBP this morning but I have been juicing for the past couple of weeks with things like beets, fennel, cilantro, celery etc. I do have a question. Is it necessary to take the cinammon? I suffer from GERD and I don't know if that is what caused my extreme reaction to the cinammon shot with water. I did it on an empty stomach first thing in the morning and I was hit by so much nausea and bloating all at once followed by typical GERD symptoms. I can handle the juices and apples but don't think that I can do the cinammon. I want to try the asparagus and beets first because of the good results I read about. So long story short... Will it still work if I don't do the cinammon?

Thanks!

The cinnamon is not really a must do, but I find it quite a plus when you mix it with raw honey. 1 tsp cinnamon 2 tsp honey

What is the purpose of the cinnamon in the MBP?