15 years ago and before I thought I was being the good pet owner and getting my dog, a mix Golden X,vaccinations whenever they were needed. Long story short, my dog acquired mast cell cancer from vaccinosis and it developed at the injection site. I did enlist a holistic vet after his vet said he only had 3 months to live. Going totally holistic with treatments, my dog lived a good quality life for 2.5 years thereafter.
I now have 2 Old English Sheepdogs who are naturally reared. They are 9 & 10 currently and have had no chemicals in or on them, are fed a raw diet and have only been to a vet once. They had their puppy shots and that was it until my one dog was diagnosed with a hernia. He had to have an operation and they wouldn't do it until he had a rabies shot. This would be his second in his lifetime. I was reluctant but knew he needed a repair of his hernia. 2 months after that shot, he developed cysts all around his neck area. Sheepdogs are extremely sensitive to shots of any kind and he did puff up at the injection site. I was told by an herbalist to take a slice of lemon and rub it on the site and the puffiness went away. I then began using Colloidal Silver in drops 2x a day on the cysts and in a matter of a week, they burst and were gone and have never returned. They will never get a rabies shot for the life of them. My dogs have never had medications either of any kind. I treat them homeopathically and herbally and they are thriving.
End of May 2012 I brought my then 15 month old dog to the vet for the revolution. At that time she was just over 22lbs and was given a higher dose of revolution for dogs over 22lbs to 40lbs. Unfortunately, we didnt notice anything until 3 weeks later when there was blood at the back of her neck. I thought it was the water from the lake or her diet that she started having a skin allergy. After verifying on internet I applied vitamin E oil 3 times everyday. On the 5th day, while cleaning the spot to apply more vit E oil I felt more bumps and her skin was very hard and purplish and it seemed that the affected area was bigger than what I thought. I immediately brought her to a vet nearby who said that she has seen bad reactions to revolution a couple of days after the application. I was in awe when my dog was shaven at that spot. There were more than 2 dozens bumps all scabbed. The next day when I brought my dog to her regular vet, the latter denied vehemently stating that this is the first case she has ever encountered in her practice but took pictures and said she will investigate with the manufacturer.
Today, my dog has totally recovered but I am very skeptical vis a vis any vaccination or drops that the vets recommend. I am educating myself to natural alternatives. I thank "earth clinic" which is very educative.
However, I would like to know if there is any alternative to leptospirosis prevention.
I am writing to you after reading an article on The Problem with the Leptospirosis Vaccine.
I am the proud mom of 2 beautiful Pomeranians. Recently, my 3 year old boy had his annual exam and vaccinations including the lepto vaccine. At the time of the visit, the doctor noticed a small lesion on his lip. Within 2 weeks it had gotten much bigger and they decided to do a punch biopsy. The results of the biopsy came back, as quoted by the doctor, "strongly suggests" discoid lupus. They started treatment on him with 2 prednisone pills a day.
About a week after treatment, we noticed another "sore" behind his nose on his muzzle. In addition he wasn't acting like himself. Tucker is a very active, large (20 lb) Pomeranian. His personality would make anyone fall in love with him! Literally! He was/is sleeping under the kitchen table, not sleeping in bed with us, crying/whining when you picked him up. Just not normal behavior for such a vibrant, young dog.
I made yet, another appointment. At that appointment, the doctor took blood work and noticed his white blood cell count and liver counts were through the roof! We were sent to an emergency animal hospital at that moment. Tucker was admitted and an ultra-sound showed an enlarged, bright liver which prompted an overnight stay w/intravenous fluids and drugs and preparation for a liver biopsy (needle). His diagnosis was leptospirosis.
Tucker came home the next day with prescription dog food (bland, mild), 5 prescriptions-Denosyl, reglan, clavomax, pepcid and prednisone. He was on the Clavomax for about 5 days when they switched him to doxycycline. He has been on the doxycycline for about 2 weeks and they lowered his prednisone to once a day and the denosyl once a day. He seemed to have gotten a little better but I am seeing the original symptoms mentioned earlier in this email reappear. He has a follow-up appointment next week to test his blood work next week.
Here are my concerns:
Can the lepto vaccine cause the virus?
Can the lupus be caused by the virus?
Will he test negative because he is on antibiotics for lepto?
Could it be something entirely different and is he being treated incorrectly?
I know you cannot conclusively answer these questions but I am so worried and he is so young. I don't know which way to turn and the money we have spent (don't get me wrong, we love him like our son) is astronomical and the bank has run dry. I am just looking for some information and a direction to go in for a proper diagnosis. Any insight you can give us would be much appreciated.
My 7 year old Rat Terrier had to be rushed to the emergency room a few hours after she got a lepto vaccine. Two days and two thousand dollars later they said they didn't know what caused her to be in so much pain (she has colitis and I believe the shot exacerbated it. ) They also wouldn't admit it could have been the vaccine. She recovered and is fine but I don't take her to get shots anymore.
My Yorkshire terrier gets very lethargic, stops eating/drinking and cries in pain when picked up after vaccinations. The most recent being the Leptovirus vaccine. I give her water through a syringe and keep her comfortable until it passes, usually up to three days. At first I thought she had injured herself on the edge of the storm door when she went out but soon realized she gets a big lump near injection site after the two or three days (this is a week later) which has scabs or abrasions on the skins surface causing a big mat of fur. She licks it and opens it up. I am taking her to the vet tomorrow as I remember this same thing happening before and as I said, I thought it was an injury. She now acts fine but has this wound.
My siamese girl had leukemia shot and when we got home I noticed something black protruding from mouth...tongue? It happened 2-3 times again. She also has pink tongue too, now
For those with epileptic dogs,we have found,thank God that going by your dog's weight,melatonin(natural supplement)WORKS esp. IF your pet is prone to night time,early AM seizures--there is a website out here but unfortunately I can't remember their name,had a forum for epople to post questions/responses/their stories etc--what works..
one thing finally dawned on us here--we had 2 wonderful dobies that lived healthy lives till 14-16 years---a VERY loooong lifespan for this breed. They were NOT vaccinated for all these diseases and only received a rabies the year nyc mandated it.
for testimonies both human and pet.
Also,try to purchase the BEST natural /holistic food u can as it definitely makes a differencein your pets' lives....or prepare your own.
Allergic Skin reaction as a result of C4 vaccine in dogs :
I have recently got a puppy at 8 weeks old, wo had his first combination vaccine at age 7 weeks, distemper, parvo and hepatitis. As someone who didn't want to expose my puppy to unneccesary vaccines, I chose to only give 1 more vaccine at 12 weeks. 10 days later my puppy broke out in a rash with his hair sticking up causing little bumps all over his back. He is on a fully natural raw diet, has had no contact to any new plants or allergens that I can think of, and I believe the vaccine has caused his immune system to weaken. I gave him a remedy of Thuja, as well as Apis to relieve the itching, which seemed to help. The following day I also gave an activated charcoal tablet and sprayed ACV on his skin. Within 5 days I saw a noticable improvement. I continued the same diet, also adding in ACV, flaxseed oil, garlic and kelp. 2 weeks later he had another itchy rash come up, this time starting on his belly and sides, seemingly effecting the parts of his skin where it had previously not been. I have succesfully treated the very red raw rash on his belly with the same treatments as above, but am still battling the remaining parts on his sides which he keeps itching. I am convinced this is a result of the vaccine and I hope to build his immune system to overcome these reactions and never vaccinate him again. Just in case this may help anyone with similar problems.
My 13 week puppy got a parvo shot 4 days ago, today is Sunday and he won't eat or drink water, just a little bit ago he drank water a did start eating, but his right eye looks like glass or something covering it, and he just had a huge muscle spasm or seizure not sure. Then got up and ran around then went to his food and started eating. He's scheduled to go to vet in am, to get neutered. Not sure what to do? But he did start eating.
I have a 8 week old Chihuahua who got the first parvo vaccination from a pet feed store which I did at home with help. He is now just wanting to sleep all day and has no appetite and shivers. It's been 24 hours since he had the shot. Please help
I took my 5 1/2 month old pup to the vet this past Wednesday to get vaccinated, I called the day before and told them there was parvo in my neighborhood and asked for advice, the vet told me to get him a vaccine. I had his first vaccine purchased from a feed supply store and had it administered at home, the first vaccine was a combo of the dead and live virus, so it was effective. When I took him to the vet my understanding was they were going to make sure everything was okay before giving him the vaccine, either there was a sick dog at the vet, or because the vaccine the vet gave my dog differs from that of the vaccine that I got from the feed store, but the vet gave him a live vaccine.
In other words, they gave him the virus, they did not counteract it with a combo of the dead vaccine as well, only the live one, leaving my poor Jakiva's immune system open and weak for anything. My dog had diarrhea by the end of the night, I at first thought it was just a reaction to the vaccine, but within the same 2 hours that I made that assumption, he started urinating very frequently until it wasn't even urine anymore, but was clear like water. From experience with kids this was an obvious early symptom of dehydration, I went to the pharmacy and bought pedialite, and started to maintain his fluids, the second day he was hydrated but had lost some of his body weight, and had watery ranking stool.
I went to google, and typed in the words what can I give my puppy with parvo to keep him hydrated, I found and discovered alot of frustrating information related to the hardyness of parvo, the vaccine information the vet does not tell you about, and that even if you get your dog vaccinated, it can still catch parvo, and the startling statistics of dogs that have survived parvo without their vaccine vs those that have had it. My baby with his vaccine was on the higher fatality list than that of a dog that has not had a vaccine against it. I learned that dogs, like humans get better nutrition from herbs and natural supplements than the chemicals that the medical industry prescribes and recommends. Unfortunately for both humans and animals, the pharmaceutical companies pay large cash incentives for prescribing drugs with side effects as opposed to natural cures. The issue with the drugs with side effects is that they only supress the problem, they do not assist in expelling it from the body. Unlike natural substances that have been around longer than the medical industry.
I started my dog on Echinacea for his immune system on his second day, I crushed it up and put it in his pedialite, and dosed him with it when I gave him the pedialite to keep him hydrated. The major CRITICAL issue is keeping them hydrated. Luckily for us, my Ja was keeping his fluids down orally, but there are a few ways to ensure they get hydrated. If you can keep fluids down them, there is nothing different the vet will do, but keep your dog hydrated, and feed them supplements through an IV. They will also give them pain medication, that would result in fatality, as your dog is already struggling to stay alive, a pain medication could shut his body down. There is no cure for parvo, only supportive care.
While on the second day, my boy did not drink his own water. He ate briefly, then he didn't hold his food down, and I followed the advice that instructed not to force them to take food, because they will throw it right back up, if they are not able to consume food, which only results in more fluid loss, and a greater chance of your pet becoming dehydrated. I continued giving him pedialite and water, along with his immune support supplements. I upped his dosage on the first night he was on support supplements, then I never skipped a beat, and I have a stubborn dog. He was running from me through the house, and I was consistently behind him with an oral syringe with an open end for medication not a needle. You can get these from the pharmacies. I also cross referenced what vitamins and nutrients are essential for dogs. I came up with Vitamin B 12, Acidophilus which is great for a dog with parvo, it promotes good bacteria in the intestinal tract, assisting your dog in pushing out the bad bacteria that parvo creates. The B 12 promotes regular metabolic pathways, which gives them back their natural energy. It also gives them an appetite, their body produces its own, thats what compells an appetite. I tried giving him pepto, but this is not recommended for a dog running a fever, so I only gave him a diluted dose, and after the second dose I eliminated this from his at home treatment regimen. I did however discover that there was some sort of an antibiotic needed, and I will not recommend a laboratory produced antibiotic, I researched the parvo virus, and was given the recommendation for collodial silver. This is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, and I believe highly effective.
My boyfriend picked up the collodial silver when he went to work on my pups day number 2, and we started giving him this that night. I gave him a superdosage of it, as the recommendation instructed to give as much as he could take. I gave him about 6 2 teaspoon full syringes, and started giving it to him regularly on day 3 every hour on the hour about a half a teaspoon for each dosage, you can administer the dosage according to your set regimen schedule, but do not skip a dose of this, and do not pass this recommendation. On days 1 and 2 he consistently needed the eye gook removed, on day 3 he only needed it removed in the morning. Day 3 was collodial silver, every hour on the hour, with part pedialite part collodial silver, and he was still on his nutriment supplements. I attempted a recommendation of raw liquified eggs, I tried this 3 times, and each time he yacked it back up, so to avoid this, I started giving him instant oatmeal. Like eggs oatmeal has protein, but it also has carbohydrates, and it sticks to the rib cage. I gave this to him in small bites 3 to 4 bites at a time. Testing the whole time if he was going to keep it down or not. When he did not throw this back up, I stayed with the oatmeal all day on day 3. Late on day 3 he perked up, he started following me around the house, and drinking his own water. At this point, I was curious as to whether he was going to keep drinking on his own, so I started taking him outside. They do NOT recommend this. They highly recommend not allowing your pet to go outside, at least not on walks, but also, most of these recommendations came from someone that had treated a fairly young pup, my Ja is almost 6 months old, and was potty trained before he was 2 months old, so I had to make a decision whether it was better for Ja to be in the house and refusing to go to the bathroom in the house, thus keeping his system toxic, or to take the chance of taking him for his walks. I chose to walk him so he could get rid of this nasty virus.
I immediately filled a spray bottle with part bleach part hot water. The recommendation is around a hefty splash of bleach so that you know even tho it is dilluted, the bleach still has its effectiveness, as bleach is the ONLY household cleaner that will kill this evil virus for your dog. If you want to keep your dog alive do NOT forget to disinfect and sanitize your whole house with bleach and hot water. You can use bleach water on your grass, or you can use another product that I do not know the name of, as it is only accessible online, or in a feed supply store, or the virus will thrive in your yard, and when your dog or another dog comes in your yard will either become reinfected, or get infected. I disinfected my house on both day 3 and day 4 I used bleach and dishsoap for his food and water dishes, and I threw out his chew toys, like tug of war ropes, and other material chew toys. I bleached the entire house down, and gave Ja a nird bath with a very dilluted content of bleach water and his regular earth bath natural puppy shampoo. I washed all laundry and linens with 2 capfuls of clorox bleach, after the washer was filled with water, as again bleach kills the virus. When I took Ja outside, I wiped his paws with a rag that had been soaked in dilluted bleach water and dishsoap to prevent him from tracking it back in.
This is day 4 and Ja is eating on his own, and drinking plenty of water. I am still giving him the collodial silver as antibiotic, although I am only giving it to him every 2 to 3 hours now, as it is taking effect on him. I would recommend continuing the vitamins and supplements as well as the collodial silver as an antibiotic until it is gone, and even recommend getting more to enhance the dogs immune system, as they will need immune support, and a continued antibiotic to expel this virus from the system. There are so many great resources online that you can find out about home parvo remedies. There is also a natural home remedy that can be bought as a single supplement, as opposed to gathering individual vitamin supplements, and has the same content plus that will help your dog recover from this dreadful disease, as well as maintain prevention of future occurances. I was unable to order this supplement, so I used what little money I had and resources available to me to pick some of the better and crucial ingredients on the list to decide which supplements I could get to assist my pup in staying alive til he kicked this virus, I calculated the symptoms, and what was the most dire, and chose the B12 for his appetite, and drinking desire, I chose the Echinacea for immune support, I chose the Acidophilus for his intestinal tract health, as this is what the parvo virus attacks, that causes your dog to eventually die if left untreated or unnoticed, Chamomile tea for his tummy to soothe it, I kept a supply of Maple syrup to rub across his gums when he was lethargic and completely listless to keep his glucose levels up, this also gave him the energy he needed like a person suffering from sugar diabetes that has a low blood sugar, it works the same way with your pet. Just dont get crazy with it, put maple syrup or honey or even kaero syrup on 2 fingers and rub it across the gums when they are seemingly lifeless, it will give them the energy needed to maintain breathing status. This is also highly recommended, but organic syrup or honey is even better. I made use of what I had available, and Ja is on day 4 getting back to normal.
Do not be alarmed once they start recovering, there will almost surely be no waste in their system for the dog to get rid of, so when the dog starts eating depending on the amount of weight he has lossed, and the speed of his appetite increasing, he may not pass a bowel movement for the entire day. This is only something to be alarmed about if they are showing symptoms of pain, if they are not in pain, their body is most likely absorbing this food as fast as it goes in their system, as with the human body, it absorbs and stores what it needs, and gets rid of the rest.
My gut instinct told me he had parvo without a vet diagnosis, and my motherly instincts took over. My gut instinct was right, before he showed some of the more severe signs of parvo. If caught early, your dog or puppy can survive, keep the pet full of clear fluids. Pedialite is a miracle. It is used for dehydrated children, and you cant give too much for your pet. It is loaded with electrolytes. It will eventually stretch their stomach out so that they have a desire for food and water again, its a matter of your dedication to your pet, and your pet.
I am now proud to say that my Ja will only ever get hollistic or homeopathic healthcare, as I already only seek natural remedies for myself and my daughter. Until my Ja got parvo from the vet, I had confidence in the pet medicine. My confidence firmly lies with the natural remedies now, and its because of sites like wolf creek ranch that have made me believe in my previous thoughts.
Ja is now laying on his back waiting for his belly rubs and stretched out like normal. I am so happy my Ja is getting better, I couldn't ask for a better birthday present as it will be in 10 minutes. I know that there are some that would only recommend a vet treatment for parvo, and this is not to be a substitute to conventional treatment, this is information for those of you that love your pets, but cannot afford an upfront vet bill, as that is what I went through. I contacted other clinics, and they all said that they only accepted payment upfront, either rendering Ja completely helpless to die a painful death, or for me as his dedicated loving owner to take matters into my own hands and give it my all. I chose to give it my all, and I am glad I did. I believe that with the constant love and compassion from its owner the pet will thrive and get through this sickness much better with the owners love, rather than being locked in a cage with other animals in the clinic barking, and only being checked on periodically.
The first 48 to 72 hours are touch and go, and you cannot be certain even when they start to show signs of recovery, you must be fully dedicated and attentative, or you could quite simply let this virus eat your pet alive. Parvo does not kill your pet dehydration, shock, and toxic internals kill your pet. Also you must be more stubborn than your pet, because they will not be likely to simply open their mouth and allow you to insert the syringe. Always remind your pet that you love them and be compassionate. If you remain dedicated, and do not underestimate the fatality rate of this virus, your pet can very well survive!
Ja is not in the clear yet, but I will not take no for an answer. If I did, he would have gave up. He was ready to, but I constantly reminded him that it was not his choice. It only becomes their choice if you allow them to be more stubborn than you. If your pet is not eating and drinking there is something wrong, dogs especially love their food, so if they are not eating, and they drink alot of water you should definitely take note of the rest of the symptoms. Do not wait til your pet has expelled all of his fluids through diarrhea and vomit to start treatment. If your dog does not have parvo, you will know when they poop. It is a smell you really wont forget, and you'll know when you smell it. It smells like fermented blood. Very raunchy and nauseating.
Don't forget to keep the living space sanitized, and don't wait around for your dog to die helplessly because you cannot afford a vet. There are great success rates among dogs that are treated at home with the around the clock care mandatory for their full recovery.
My puppy was given her antiparvo vaccine last night at home, and she was poked several times because we could not get the needle in her (lots of yelping and squirming). She was vomiting for a couple hours, dry heaving, and all she does is sleep. She has now begun to drink water, but will not eat. And she shows signs of resentment towards me (I was one of the hands holding her down). She pooped this morning and it was wet and somewhat solid. Like a thick, wet paste texture. Will she be okay?
I had a 6th month old Samoyed puppy receive a Parvo Vaccine and came down with the disease. It was a 50/50 chance for about 4 or 5 days that she could have died from it. She did end up ok, but after that I have not been too eager for vaccines with any of my animals. At this time I get only what is required by law for my dog, and do not keep going in every year for a booster rabbies. I also limit the vaccinations with my horse. Lately since Michigan has had a number of West Nile cases, I have vaccinated for that this spring. But I always check into what vets recommend and what I feel is necessary.
I just recently changed the brand of puppy shots that I used, at the advice of a representative from Revival Animal Health, where I have ordered all my vaccines for the past 11 years. The vaccines were on sale, so she advised they were very good and would save me some money. I vaccinated 8 puppies with the new Solo Jec 5 Plus, manufactured by Boehringer-Ingelheim Vetmedica, Inc. , all of which developed parvo and died. Then it spread to 7 more puppies that were too young to vaccinate, and I lost them as well. My vet tested with the Idexx Snap Parvo test and it was positive for parvo. I had other puppies that were vaccinated with another vaccine, that are fine and did not develop parvo, so I know it was this particular vaccine. The company that I ordered from (Revival Animal Health) denies having any knowledge of this particular vaccine causing problems for anyone else, and were just plain nasty to me when I called them for a refund after they received the remaining product back. I don't know if we're supposed to use name brands or company names on a site like this, but I certainly don't want anyone else to have to go through the nightmare that I have been through for the last three weeks doctoring sick puppies. I have probably lost over $15,000 in puppies and veterinary care alone. I have kept 4 of the vaccines, so if there is anyone out there that knows where I can get these tested, to prove that they are what caused the parvo, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you.
Our 10 week old husky puppy had her parvo vaccine yesterday. About a minute and a half after being injected she went into a grandmaul seizure. The vet said he'd NEVER heard of that happening before and he said he's pretty sure she has epilepsy. It was the SCARIEST thing I've ever been through, she seized in my arms. After looking through all these responses and all Im even more firm on my belief that the shot caused the seizure. So far she's not had anymore. But we will be trying the Coliander leaves in her food, and are waiting to hear from the vet to see if DSMO or whatever is aproved for dogs in our state. If so we will be trying that too to make sure there is no long term effects. We LOVE this puppy and dont want to lose her. So a warning to other husky owners, BEWARE.