Borax for Mange - Ted's Remedy for Demodectic and Sarcoptic Mange

Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Lavan (Houston, TX) on 03/16/2015
4 out of 5 stars

Hi, Till now I have tried this borax treatment twice with 3 days interval and I see some improvement in my dog. However my dog's itching and biting at his paws and thighs doesn't seem to have stopped (also the red spots on his skin). If anybody could answer my questions as below:

1. What is the duration of the applications I should follow (confused by multiple users having it differently)

2. What can I do additionally to relieve my dog of his skin itchiness while continuing with the borax treatment. Maybe the skin spots are forming by his biting his skin.

Thanks everyone for sharing this treatment info. Like other users I have had to take my dog (1 yr old Pitbull mix) to the vet multiple times for demodectic mange and have tried ivermectin, lime sulphur dips, mitaban dips (mitaban has been effective but seems to come back after 2 weeks) but everything has been a temporary relief for him till now (since the last 8 months). I have also put him on grain free diet just to rule out any allergies.

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Posted by Jenny (UK) on 09/18/2006
5 out of 5 stars

Hello Ted, The first thing I would like to do if it were at all possible, would be to shake your hand Ted and thank you most sincerely for your advice on the treatment of 'Dermodecosis' (Red Mange).

For us your advice has been a miracle cure! We have 2 exceptional examples of how your advice on the use of the 'wash and Borax / Hydrogen Peroxide soaks' have worked and they are as follows:

1st example - We had a litter of pups and at about 4 weeks old one pup started to get pimples on his head and chest. We duly took him to the vet suspecting an allergy to either the grass or a change in the soap powder we used. The vet confirmed this and put him on antibiotics and some antihistamine tablets.

One week later the pimples had spread over his head, neck, throat and chest and most of the others had them too. The boys were by far the worst affected. We took the original pup back to the vet and one other and he immediately diagnosed the cause as being the Dermodex Mite or 'Red Mange'. The only treatment he recommended was 'Advocate' a liquid anti-mite/flea/worm treatment which is applied on the skin on the back of the neck, but as per instructions, our pups were too young for it. The next day the vet phoned the manufacturers of Advocate and they said it was safe to use in a pup of nearly 6 weeks old but it had to be an exact amount according to the individual weight of the pup. So, later that day the vet came out weighed each pup and applied the appropriate amount of liquid. The pups had to be separated from each other, to avoid the stuff being licked off. This was duly done and did they scream? You betcha they did!

4 days later and the pups were far worse, with the first pup now being bright red virtually all over the front half from the waist forward and some of the skin had cracked and little sores were developing. In my opinion, the Avocate had done absolutely nothing to help and the situation was becoming hopeless.

In a desperate attempt to find something to help these poor babies, I went on the internet, came across 'www.earthclinic.com' and Ted with his 'miracle cure' (no joke!).

We brought all the pups into the kitchen, washed each in turn with a little shampoo and warm water, then placed them in a tub we had bought for the purpose and soaked them in the Borax/Hydrogen Peroxide solution and left them sopping wet to dry on towels/blankets in front of the fire (but not too close).

We both got well covered ourselves and many times had the solution splashed onto our faces and in ours eyes. Absolutely no pain was experienced by either of us, which was really reassuring, as we didn't't know whether or not the solution would sting. The pups didn't't mind the bathing part but were quite distressed at being left soaking wet and made no bones about telling us off! Again this was somewhat distressing but we followed Ted's instructions and resisted the temptation to dry them off.

It took some time for them to dry completely and once they were all content again we fed them and all was well. We did end up with 9 rather white and dusty pups, as when they dried, powder deposits remained on their coats: got to say, they did look quite cute though, especially the black ones! Now this is where we feel the miracle fits in - 2 DAYS LATER, the original pup had almost totally cleared of his redness, spots, scabs and sores and this is fact! All the other pups that had been infected had the same result - absolutely amazing! The relief for us was phenomenal, I can tell you and not to mention for our pups.

We repeated the 'wash and soak' as Ted suggests, 3 days later and before the week was out there was absolutely no sign of the Dermodecosis what so ever. I have gone on a bit so I will end here and give you the 2nd example later.

Please note the above is my personal experience and the views contained there in are my own. A MASSIVE THANK YOU TED FROM ALL OF US (2 and 4 legged ones) FOR ALL YOUR ADVICE, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW JUST HOW EXTREMELY GRATEFUL WE ARE.


Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by MissM (New York) on 10/21/2021

Get PetMd shampoo or similar if you are in Canada. I used it for mites that I caught outside. Good for humans and pets. It's unscented and gets deep into skin and hair follicle. You can dissolve borax into it. The Sulphur and benzoyl kill and dry out mites. FYI these mites like oils, it's food to them so do not put conditioner on dog or anything like that. If it's severe you may have to get ivermectin. My mites got severe, and had to dose with ivermectin two does three weeks apart and use shampoo in between. Pet MD - Benzoyl Peroxide Medicated Shampoo for Dogs and Cats - Effective for Skin Conditions, Dandruff, Itch Relief, Acne and Folliculitis Relief of Scaling and Itching from Dermatitis, Skin Infections, and Follicular Plugging to Stop Scratcting and Pain. Medicated Shampoo for Relieving Dry Itchy and Irritated Skin. Peroxide, Micronized Sulfur and Salicylic Acid for Powerful Cleaning and Degreasing. Soap and Paraben Free. Contains Skin Moisturizers and Deodorizers to Effectively Remove Scales and Oils from the Coat, Leaving your Dog or Cat Fresh, Clean and Happy.


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Posted by Theresa (Mpls., Mn) on 06/12/2018

Hey Nikki,

If you are painting the solution on and letting it dry, it may not be penetrating properly. You might use a soft rag or sponge to sop up the solution and keep wetting it and reapplying it again and again to the areas you are treating for a full 30 minutes. If this were my dog I would consider dipping the entire dog and not just the face.

It sounds as if there are secondary skin infections. You can use an over the counter triple antibiotic ointment for people, or you might also consider colloidal silver as well [can be taken orally as well as applied topically].

Healing will take time. Expect to see results in 2 weeks, not 2 days.

You might also consider adding a Pet tab vitamin or human vitamin C [500mg 2xday with food].

Is your puppy otherwise health and happy and bouncy? If NOT then consider a vet visit, and check for internal parasites. If this were my puppy and the vet wanted to use Ivermectin or any other miticide to combat the mites I would decline that service and hold off to let Ted's remedy work, however I might consider taking/paying for any antibiotics the vet had to offer as they might be more effective for dogs than the human triple antibiotic. JMHO!


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Posted by Theresa (Mpls., Mn) on 06/28/2016

Hello Linda,

Your pet may be having a toxic reaction to an overdose of the medicated bath + mange spray. If this were my dog I would strongly consider seeing the vet for accidental poisoning and check blood for organ function. If that is out of the question you might consider giving your dog activated charcoal - you can buy capsules at most health food stores. Homeopathic Nux Vomica may also be indicated. Please report back.


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Posted by Theresa (Mpls., Mn) on 05/10/2016

Hey Louise!

What pesticide did you apply that gave you good results?

While demodex is not contagious, sarcoptic mange IS, and if you are seeing this spread in your pets and your friends pets who socialize with your pets it is something to consider. Sarcoptic mange requires not just treating the animal but the environment - please read up and see if that sounds like what you are dealing with.

Red bumps that turn into crusty scabs - when I have seen it in my dogs - has been allergy related. It could be a pollen allergy, blowing in on the wind, or a contact allergy to a certain substance - grass. And it also could be a flea bite allergy; this is why I am curious about the pesticide that worked for you.

You might find of benefit alkalizing your dogs drinking water with baking soda; this helps balance their PH which improves the entire body system and can make them less appealing to fleas.

Please report back!


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Posted by Sylvia (California) on 03/10/2016
5 out of 5 stars

I used Ted's mange cure and it worked fine! But on my dog after using it twice the good skin on her stomach pruned up a bit (like fingers after a long bath) so I rinsed her skin after bathing her in a mild shampoo. This worked fine on my dog and she is doing great! My dog was sensitive to using the mange cure too often. Use it sparingly with some dogs. I would now use it only once only and then see how the treatment affects particular your dog skin type.


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Posted by Theresa (Mpls., Mn) on 03/07/2016

Hello Lisa,

Red & oozing = skin infection IMHO. Have you been to the vet for this condition? Did they diagnose mange?

The remedy when I have used it did not sting; that your dog seems ouchy from it means something else is going on.

Dogs with severe demodex can develop a secondary skin infection and it sounds like your dog has gone that route. IMHO conventional antibiotics are helpful here, however you can also use a natural remedy but it can take much longer to take effect. Turmeric and colloidal silver are two remedies that can be helpful here, but there are a host of others as well.

Did you soak your dog in Ted's mange remedy per the directions? The feet being affected/pododemidicosis can be very hard to treat; standing your dog in a vat of the remedy for half an hour would be my approach, all the while pouring the remedy over and over him during the half hour. Some find a small amount of the dip to be effective but if I have to treat - and I use the mange remedy as a general skin funk dip - I make up a big batch and fill a large plastic storage bin for a small dog, or make as much as I can in the bathtub for a big dog. The key is to keep wet and working for as long as you can, and in the case of the feet to have them soaking in the solution.

In your shoes I would strongly consider taking my dog to the vet to check out the bacterial skin infection. I would NOT do an Amitraz dip, though I would consider Ivermectin if you do not see any improvement after 5 dips [every other day].

Also to consider; diet - make sure you are feeding good groceries, no diets with lots of food dyes and grains or corn as these can cause skin problems. You might consider alkalizing your dog's drinking water OR doing Ted's borax protocol for dogs - again in the drinking water.

If this is mange, you will need to treat it 2-3 times a week for up to 12 weeks - so keep in mind this is a long term condition that heals slowly.

Please report back!


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Posted by Lisa (San Francisco, Ca) on 03/09/2016 11 posts

I gave my dog his third bath tonight and things are looking very good. He's improved and I'm feeling very good about this. I just posted a longer more detailed description of how he's doing but ran into some technical glitch so I don't know if it went through or not. Anyway, everything's going well and I will continue on with it!

Lisa


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Posted by Lisa (Ca) on 03/12/2016 11 posts
5 out of 5 stars

My dog just got his 4th borax bath tonight and he is dramatically improved. His red spots on his body are about 80% gone - and it's been just a week. His feet, however, still have a ways to go. It's very tricky with the feet because apparently when mites set up house in the paw pads they bore in very deeply. His paws are still a bit swollen, so I am going to soak just his paws every day. I do also dry them with a cool hair dryer after the soak so it gets good and dry between his toes. (It's not always easy to get him to lay still for that! )

Anyway, this treatment is incredibly effective if you do it exactly as you're supposed to. I am also giving the dog borax in his water. 1/8 teaspoon per liter/quart. I will stop that as soon as the swelling in his paws goes down.


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Posted by Leonard (Hampton, Ga) on 01/27/2016

What type of Borax do I use? Thank you.

EC: Look for 20 Mule Team borax in the laundry aisle of larger grocery stores.


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Posted by Jessbcause (Seattle, Wa) on 03/03/2016

Karen - Don't lose hope! Our dog had the worst case of mange, it was untreated for like 3 years, antibiotics barely doing anything... we treated him, first 2 months were bad, but we noticed a lot of the itching stopped, but not all of it... he then lost all his hair and then looked terrible (they start to look worse before better! , also super lethargic! )

Then weeks go by, slowly growing hair back... now he looks amazing but not grown all the hair back, but majority! No more scabs! Just keep at it and sooth his or her skin with coconut oil when dry. Maybe get a cone for his head to stop licking and biting. God bless, I hope your dog gets better!


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Posted by Jessbcause (Seattle, Wa) on 11/23/2015
5 out of 5 stars

Thank you for the comments! So since I made this post, there has been changes for the better! His itching has stopped a lot, but still shakes his head and whole body when he gets up. His head has all of the dry scabs off and his ears he used to not let us even touch, and we can flap them open, massage them, anything! So they cleared up. His energy has picked up as well! We can also see little hairs starting to grow all over his backside where it was bald before. The only thing is he still has some open scabs on his upper back. There is a little patch of hair left, I feel most the mites are there though. We keep giving him a bath every 3-4 days so we are just keeping and staying positive :). We definitely will take them into the vet if he gets any worse!

I will keep in mind everyone's advice - thank you!

JessBcause


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Posted by Doris Moore (Las Vegas, Nv) on 10/25/2015

Do I need to shampoo my dog before I use the peroxide/borax treatment?


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Posted by LKH (North Carolina) on 01/27/2022
5 out of 5 stars

Hi, I have been using this borax and peroxide treatment on my dog for a about a year now… It is the only thing in this world that helps! …but I haven't done the every other day baths until now. I am really determined this time ..I have shaved most of the hair completely off my dog..it's a game changer.. you can see the problem areas more clearly….you are not expending energy going thru a full haired 80 lb labrador dog..which believe me will wear you out every other day.

I also have used the borax water recipe on all our animals for about 5 years now both dogs and cats and they all are very healthy. Our lab is the only one that has the demodectic mange..He is 9 yrs old.


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Posted by MDS (Canada) on 10/14/2021
3 out of 5 stars

I'm several weeks into this treatment with my dogs and not seeing any difference yet. I've washed them each time before I treated them. Put the treatment in a spray bottle and parted the fur to spray their skin and then work it in more with my fingers. My poor black boarder collie is turning orange from drying in the sun! I'll keep at just cause I don't know what else to do but at this point I'm skeptical.

Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by MissM (NY) on 10/22/2021

Forgot to mention as well as Pet Md shampoo you can get Nustorck Sulphur ointment, it comes in massive tube. You can add more Sulphur to the shampoo, and then use it as a treatment. Now it's Sulphur and pine in an oil base and it's a bit smelly, but it works on all kinds of animal and human skin afflictions.


Where to Buy: UK
Posted by Art (California) on 04/29/2021 1292 posts

Rosemary,

It looks like Borax may be available on eBay, UK :

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Scroll the list at the above link!

Art


Where to Buy: UK
Posted by Bill (Philippines) on 04/29/2021

Hi Rosemary,

You can also buy borax or sodium tetraborate direct from this UK website(Intralabs). Just do a search for "Borax". See link below:

https://www.intralabs.co.uk/


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Posted by Mim H. (Northern Illinois) on 10/12/2019
5 out of 5 stars

I used Ted's borax remedy and after the second treatment, my doxie is back. Happy and so comfortable with his horrible belly sores almost gone. Winter is coming and I am glad that I will be up to the weekly bath by Thanksgiving and hopefully by January will have finished the 12 weeks. Thank you again for this treatment as the vet just pushes that disgusting medication. My dog thanks you as well!!


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Posted by Josie (Manalapan) on 06/19/2018
5 out of 5 stars

Borax, HydroPerxide, Water solution:

Bye Bye expensive sprays, shampoos, and ointment. This is all I need to treat my mini French poodle baby. On the very first day of treatment - I noticed a big improvement. I wonder why none of her vets (she had three and no one ever made her condition any better) did not recommend this formula. It's been three weeks and the itching, watery eyes, bad temper - all gone. She is happy!! I am happy too!!


Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Theresa (Mpls., Mn) on 06/14/2018

Hey Nikki,

You want the area you are treating to be exposed to the wet, active solution for [ideally] 30 minutes. How you accomplish that is up to you. You could have a wash cloth sopping wet with the solution on her face, and re-wet it frequently while holding it on her face for the 30 minutes - that would be one way. I have a plastic tub and I just made up a huge batch of the solution and put my puppy in the tub so she was immersed up to her neck, and then used a sponge to drizzle the solution on her head. The solution does not irritate the eyes, so if it gets in the eyes it will not hurt. If you have treated every other day, you likely can space it out a bit as it sounds, from the reaction, that you have interrupted the mite life cycle. The decaying mites ITCH - the scratching allows infection to set in - so you might try treating the infected areas with the topical antibiotic or colloidal silver. Lavender essential oil, a few drops mixed into coconut oil or calendula cream may be soothing in addition to the antibiotic cream. If her energy level is normal that is good news; a lethargic puppy means infection is going deeper which might mean a vet visit. Feeding good groceries is essential, and boosting her immune system with vitamin C is a good idea as well. It may be difficult to distract her from the itchy face, but try with things like a good chew or natural bone. I get beef neck bones at the supermarket and bake them at 350 for half an hour or so, so the meat is roasted on the outside but the bone is not cooked on the inside - and that will keep a puppy busy for a few hours.


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Posted by Harry (Yorkshire, Uk) on 02/21/2018
5 out of 5 stars

I have sort of used this method twice....

H2O2 is easy to get hold of, from the chemists in the UK, but the Borax less so...

First time, the male border collie had mange type hair loss and scabbing to the side of his rear leg, the large muscle area. I didn't bath him and couldn't track down any Borax, just the substitute, so I just diluted H2O2 and put that in a spray bottle. I wasn't expecting much without the Borax, but provided near immediate and it cleared up within a week. I kept on just spraying daily for 10 days.

For the past two weeks, his younger sister has been chewing at her front legs, hair loss and beginning to bleed and scab, gradually getting worse for her. This time I managed to get hold of some 20 Mule Team Borax, it arrived 1 days ago, so I made it up roughly as described - except I put in in a spray bottle. I gave her a good bath, let her shake and drip, then sprayed her thoroughly and left her somewhere warm to dry. I have sprayed her daily since, but concentrating mainly on the two affected front legs. The crisis seems to be almost over, scabs going and hair returning. It has though left her hair generally looking very dry, so I may need to address that, once the treatment stops.

Borax and Peroxide User Reviews
Posted by Theresa (Mpls., Mn) on 05/01/2018

Hey Nicole,

If this were my dog I would use only 1 remedy. I have had complete success using only Ted's Mange Remedy, as directed. In your shoes, since you are on ivermectin, I would use only one dip - not both. There is no advantage using both lime dip and Ted's dip - they both do the same thing, ie kill mites under the skin. Because the lime dip stinks, I would use Ted's remedy as directed on this site.


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Posted by Didi's Mom (Usa) on 06/07/2018

In my opinion do not use Ivermectin. They gave my dog Ivermectin and his head started shaking and we immediatedly noticed it effected his vision as well. I went online and found Ted's remedy and it worked. This was years ago. I just came back online to find the remedy for another dog. My dog's head would convulse and shake, it was terrible, for years, until one day when his head was shaking, my mother threw him a treat and he caught it mid air and it stopped and we continued to do that(I have no idea why that worked but am glad it did).and thank God it stopped. He is allergic to 18 different things.

A very old doctor who has since passed away told me, "4 white feet, don't treat." My dog a rescue has 4 white paws, he says that you should stay away from medications as much as possible.

Also, my dog is allergic to dandelions. I spray them with pure vinegar in a spray bottle direct stream and it takes that problem away.

This Ted's remedy is awesome


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Posted by Kirk1969 (New Prague, Mn) on 12/12/2017
4 out of 5 stars

Ted's remedy for sarcoptic mange (hydrogen peroxide/borax/h2o)

Rescue puppy foster (received at 4 weeks) - had him for 4 days before I knew about the mange. Too young for ivermectin treatment, he has had lime-sulphur dip twice (if you are using this, buy some spray bottles it is much easier than 'dipping' a dog) but continued scratching/losing a ton of hair. He is pretty much hairless on his face (he is now 6 wks) and patches of hair elsewhere. I also have used an antiparasitic shampoo, which did not seem to help much.

Since using Ted's remedy I am not sure if his hair is growing back but he is scratching far less. I really hope his hair grows back and that my 3 older dogs don't get mange. I am also using Ted's remedy in the house (spraying on dog beds, floors, etc.).

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Posted by Sharon (Greenville, South Carolina) on 08/03/2017
5 out of 5 stars

My lab mix got a spot on her shoulder, and one under her leg. We took her to the vet, they did a mite scrape but it came back negative. A week later, and the spots have gotten worse with new ones starting to appear. We tried the apple cider vinegar remedy at first, but it wasn't appearing to do anything. Then we tried Ted's cure and her hair started growing back! This mix really is working. Her hair is mostly/all grown back after about 6 weeks!

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Posted by Theresa (Mpls., Mn) on 07/23/2018

Dorothy,

Use Ted's Remedy. Ted posted variations on his remedy and I may be referencing that, OR it may be transcribed incorrectly from the original. Unless you can specifically cite what is different I cannot properly comment, so all I can say is use Ted's :-)


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Posted by Dorothy (Ca) on 07/28/2018

Thank you Theresa for all of your help and for answering my questions!

Do you work for this site, or are you just a kind and helpful commenter?

In Gratefulness -

EC: Theresa is one of Earth Clinic's kindest and most helpful contributors!


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Posted by Pam (Texas) on 07/30/2017
5 out of 5 stars

I used this on our Min Schnauzer mix. He had lost his hair in places, had a horrible yeast smell and ear irritation. The vet said he was allergic to Chicken and prescribed expensive medicines. We have tried dog food without chicken, tried Coconut oil, and everything we could think of. NOTHING HELPED until I tried your remedy.

We followed the directions to a T. Bathed him twice a week for the first 2 weeks and noticed a difference after the 2nd bath. He actually felt better. He still itched and had red spots but we saw improvement. After about 3 weeks I noticed his hair was growing back on his chest.

We continued through the 8 weeks. He looks great. His coat is thick and shinny and he feels great. He's more active and doesn't have that horrible yeast smell any longer.

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Posted by Carrie (Kelowna) on 08/02/2017

Hi there, I'm trying to find out the ratio to use of borax on my 111lb German Shepard massive cross. I'm loving that it's working and want to try it for he is not feeling well and have spent thousands of dollars at the vet also would like to know how much to put in his water. Thank you


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Posted by Theresa (Mpls., Mn) on 07/18/2017

Hey Sal!

So glad to hear your pit is getting some relief! I would only caution you on the use of Dawn dishwashing liquid as shampoo. I have used it myself in a pinch when giving flea baths; the key is to follow up with a vinegar rinse of 1 part vinegar to 10 parts water to help restore the PH of the skin. If you suspect fleas you can do the mange remedy and the soak time usually takes care of fleas.


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Posted by Jeff (Spokane Wa) on 07/14/2017
5 out of 5 stars

Borax for Mange

For all those still struggling with Demodex Mange........................

Wanted to quickly share my experience in the hope that you all don't give up. I have a Boston Terrier whose Puppy Mange got out of control around 14 weeks of age. I tried everything! From Borax to "Happy Dog Naturals" to a few holistic/natural shampoos found on the Internet. Also Coconut Oil and Neem Oil.

Whatever I tried, the Mange seemed to persist. Well...............he just turned ONE and the weirdest thing, it has all but gone away. But I know for sure the Borax formula works. At one point I was so frustrated and felt so bad for seemingly torturing my puppy with daily rub downs and several 'dips' per week; so I just stopped altogether. At that time, he went from say 50% hair loss to 90% hair loss! So for sure the products work to somewhat keep the Mange outbreak at bay.

So if any of you are frustrated and worried............take heart. I had heard from several sources -- including Dr. Pitcairn -- that Mange seemed to go away around the year ONE. Well.....................weird, but this was our case too.

Be patient, be persistent and most of all, PLEASE AVOID CHEMICALS! It will get better. Cheers!


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Posted by Deborahbjordan (Nc) on 06/02/2017

Thank you for replying so fast. I have changed Mara's diet to grain free. I give her immune support supplements and watch everything she eats. She has not been spayed yet and that has to be done. I'm very upset about this and I'll stay in touch with her progress. Thank you so much.


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Posted by Mary (Tampa) on 05/25/2017

Dear Kira,

I am sorry your furry new friend is going through this. It sounds like he has systemic infection from scratching and that is making him itch even more. One of our dogs just went through this and it required a round of antibiotics, unfortunately, followed by probiotics. You need to be careful because your dog is so young. I am wondering if his immune system might have been weakened from vaccination shots given at the rescue? I would try probiotics (given in small doses so as not to give diarrhea), baths every 3-4 days using a shampoo for skin infections and hot spots. Vacuuming every day and also steam cleaning the floors and bedding.

He could also have picked up a flea or two outside when you first got him, had an allergic reaction to a flea bite, scratched it and spread the infection to other parts of his body. So maybe fleas and a systemic skin infection is the issue and not mange. Just my thoughts.


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Posted by Wendy (Canada) on 05/13/2017

Could be something else if it's not working.... or the environment is still infested... I would also consider allergies - they seriously can destroy an animal, just like people with massive allergies. Consider changing food, or fasting the dog for a couple days (cats can't fast), switch to a raw food diet or at the very least a wheat, grain free allergy free kibble. I would consider finding a homeopathic vet, you can find some oneline that will skype. I had to use one when we lived in the Bahamas and our guard dog had a reaction to the vaccines he had to get for us to take him into the country. His skin was a mess and so was he, she sent me remedies in the mail and he recovered rapidly. We didn't know about this remedy although I'm not sure if it would have helped ... we did however change his diet to a raw food diet, and added in vitamins, minerals, apple cider vinegar, etc. (as per Dr. Ian Billinghursts books) and within 3 months you would have thought he was a different dog - his coat was like velvet!!! Lots of things to consider, try Facebook groups for homeopathy for dogs, or raw feeding, herbs for dogs etc.


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Posted by Hollie (Nephi, Utah.) on 10/20/2016
5 out of 5 stars

Thank you very much for the info here m cat Kiki, who is one of the family picked up mange or scabies I thought he was gonna die he was so bad sick, & scratching like crazy loosing all his fur, he got to the point that he would not eat or rather not eating at all..., then when I found this site with teds remedy That same day I bathed him let air dry, one more bath since then, next week another maybe the last one... He is 5 years old, he is a manecoone, has long hair/fur. it's justice getting beautiful again now 5 weeks ago had first bath and air dry. He handled it pretty well, he is eating, and being him self again, back to being full of energy.... Thank you Ted.

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Posted by Irina (Ca) on 08/12/2016 11 posts

You may want to try "lemon cream"- it is simply lemon skins boiled and after they sit awhile, take "slimy" part and rub into the skin (cover you puppy, including the very tip of tale), let it sit for a few minutes, rinse (or you can delete lemon juice- and do the same- lemon juice will sting more)- this is a recipe from Juliette of the Flowers (veterinarian who treated animals with natural remedies).


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Posted by Willowmoon (North Carolina) on 07/13/2016

I have a few "stray" dogs that come to my house and like to stay in the old shed. One, a great Pyr, was a matted mess with lots of hotspots, I groomed him best I could and trated the hotspots naturally. They are gone and his skin looks much better. But I believe he has mange as he itches fervently and his gorgeous fur is thinning quite a bit. The two other dogs, a pit mix mom and her puppy (there were two, but one just wasn't there one day. These are big puppies as their dad is the great Pyrenees) are super itchy. Mom has super short thin fur and little scabs all over. The male puppy has patches of fur missing and has the rings around his eyes. From what I've read here it sounds like he has demodectic mange.

Unfortunately I think my two dogs have sarcoptic mange, or whatever the Pyrenees has. I am going to give this solution a try. My concern is if it will sting and burn any cuts etc...Especially on the mom. I don't see any open wounds, just old scabs.

All three are the sweetest things ever and I cant bear to see them hurt/itching so badly. The local shelter would just put them down because of the mange.


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Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee) on 05/05/2016

Dear Louise,

I would try apple cider vinegar. 1 cup water plus 1 cup organic apple cider vinegar in a spray bottle and spray the itchy areas a few times a day or as needed. If the skin is broken though I would use 1/2 cup vinegar and 1 1/2 cups water.

~Mama to Many~


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Posted by Louise (Canada) on 05/09/2016

I have tried the Apple Cider Vinegar several times and it does help with the itching for a short time but does not resolve the problem. I am also putting it in her water daily.


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Posted by Theresa (Mpls., Mn) on 05/06/2016

Hello Louise,

It does NOT sound like your dog has mange. And while Ted's Mange remedy is a good place to start with an itchy dog, now that you have given these treatments with mixed results, I think you can rule out the mange. It sounds like your dog has itchy allergy skin - this is JMHO.

I have found that natural remedy rinses and dips tend to have a lasting or working effect for about 24 hours, so you may find it helpful to dip your dog daily or every few days. I would consider dipping in white vinegar and water - 1 part vinegar to 10 parts water and see if that helps calm the skin; you can also use this to rinse out the inside of the ears IF they are not raw from scratching.

What will help is getting to the root of the problem, and in many cases itchy skin is directly related to diet. So take a peek at your dog food label and read what is in it; if you find corn/grains in the ingredient list you might find changing to a grain free diet without added sugar, colors and dyes will help tremendously.

Please report back!


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Posted by Louise (Canada) on 05/09/2016

Thanks for the suggestions ... I did go down the allergy route at first, changed the food etc. But both of my cats (outside in the barn) have this same thing plus a friend of mine (that travels with me to dog stuff) also has the same thing in her 5 dogs. So clearly it is something that they all can catch, that is why I ruled out allergies and demodex. My friend is also having trouble getting rid of it and also tried the Borax/Peroxide solution and the same thing happened for her - it seemed to be working for a while then stopped working and the scratching started again.


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Posted by Louise (Canada) on 05/09/2016

I guess I should mention to that her skin looks good, there are no red areas right now, though there were red bumps that turned into crusty scabs at one point (but those have not returned).

She has never had food with any grain in it, since a puppy. She was getting homemade food for the first year and then I switched her to a dried raw food. When the itching started I went back to the homemade food but there was no improvement. I then switched her to Orijen Tundra and nothing changed, still scratching.

She does have times when it seems to be under control (the last couple of months), but just when I think it is gone back it comes again.

When I gave her the topical pesticide (which I really didn't want to do), the scratching pretty much stopped for a couple of weeks, then slowly and gradually started again.


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Posted by Theresa (Mpls., Mn) on 05/12/2016

Hey Louise,

This, briefly on Revolution:

"What is Revolution?

Revolution is a ... monthly topical medication used to protect your pet from heartworms, fleas, and ear mites. It also protects dogs from ticks and sarcoptic mange .... Revolution ... requires a prescription from your veterinarian. (3 Pack = 3 doses which lasts 3 months.)"

Source: http://www.1800petmeds.com/

If you are dealing with something contagious, which it appears you are, and the Revolution was effective when you used it, the most likely contagious culprits are fleas and sarcoptic mange [not demodectic mange]. Sarcoptic is itchy and can easily be caught from your pets going outside and messing in squirrel poop - that is how one of mine caught it. And fleas are everywhere.

You said Ted's Mange remedy worked only temporarily- how long did you use it? One dip and it lasted a month or??

I can see you and your friend taking your pack out to an area and picking up something that may have been sprayed on the grass that would cause them to itch, but the cats too? Unlikely, unless your dogs sleep with your cats. So again back to the contagious pest thinking. Hm!

You might try a simple flea trap. Use a small desk lamp on the floor and place a white dish/saucer with water mixed with dish soap underneath the bulb. Place in a pet area or where your pets hang out, and turn it on and leave it on overnight. Check in the morning and see what you have caught.

Please report back!


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Posted by Louise (Canada) on 05/16/2016

All animals have been treated with the topical stuff from the vet, first Revolution several times then I switched the cats to Advantage as the Revolution did not seem to be working and that is when I started the dog on the Peroxide/Borax mix as I didn't want to give her any more topical stuff.

One cat did have a reaction to the Advantage so I don't know what I am going to give him now as the Revolution did not seem to work.

The dog has been to the vet twice and they did try to find something but nothing showed up. They did say that most of the time they can't find it and it is just easier to treat rather than put the dog through a really deep skin scraping.

Can the Borax/Peroxide solution cause skin irritation, I wondered if that could be the issue?

I really don't want to put any more topical pesticides on the dog if I don't have to, especially after one cat having a reaction.


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Posted by Theresa (Mpls., Mn) on 05/18/2016

Hey Louise!

I have heard of Ted's remedy causing skin irritation when used every other day for weeks on end. I have treated demodex by using Ted's remedy every other day for the first three treatments and then weekly there after for a time span of 12 weeks and have had no issues with skin irritation. I did have one of mine catch sarcoptic from the environment and I did do the Ivermectin shot for him and that resolved it, but I know many are hesitant to use ivermectin products. I am with you avoiding the use of topical pesticides if at all possible, particular given the one bad reaction. If you are indeed dealing with sarcoptic there doesn't appear to be anything you can take orally to ward it off, but dosing garlic and / or vitamin B1 may make your pet's less tasty to mosquitoes so maybe it would make them less tasty to mites.


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Posted by Louise (Canada) on 05/18/2016

It could be skin irritation and I did consider that. I put it on 3X for the first week and then once a week after that for 8 treatments over a 5 week time period. Was working great at first.

Now I haven't used it for about a month and the scratching continues ...


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Posted by Jane (Massachusetts) on 07/20/2016

My Sicilian Grandmother used garlic as a cure for pin worms it is anti-parasitic. She would mash it up into a paste and put it in the rectum of the child who had pin worms, it would work almost immediately. So it makes sense that garlic water would kill parasites.


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Posted by Lisa (San Francisco Ca) on 03/07/2016 11 posts

I just came upon this site and this posting is for the thread about Ted's mange cure.

I have now given two borax-peroxide bath treatments to my dog for his demodex mange problem. I noticed after this second bath today he was oozing quite a bit from the sores on his back and also his paw pads, which are also infected. I am concerned that this oozing will negate the effect of the borax and am wondering if I should dabble more solution on him tonight or tomorrow.

Also, I should add, after these two bath he looks worse - very red and oozing more than the first time I bathed him, two days ago. I have been told to be patient and that the dog can look worse before he looks better. He seems okay now but he was shaking quite badly after his bath and even whimpering. Fortunately he is still eating and drinking and looks fairly stable now. Any advice anyone has to give me about the oozing would be appreciated! Thank you!

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Posted by Lisa (San Francisco, Ca) on 03/08/2016 11 posts

Hi Theresa, thank you so much for your response to my post.

About 3 weeks ago I discovered my dog's paw pads were cracking, peeling and oozing a little bit of pus. Concurrently, he had suddenly developed red bumps and scabs and crusty areas on his back and in various other places. Took him to the vet and she did some tests and found yeast everywhere, and an infected ear. Blood tests revealed all his internal organs are healthy. So the vet's first thought regarding the crusty red spots was environmental allergies. My sense, however, was that he had some sort of parasitic skin disease. But I followed her instructions and gave my dog anti-fungal and antibiotics and stopped giving him snacks containing grains. The ear infection cleared up but the skin problem and paws worsened markedly. I came in for my follow up visit and she could see that the skin was worse and talked about just continuing with the antibiotics and anti fungal pills and to add an antihistamine. I gave the dog the antihistamine and it did not help. I called the vet's office back and she took her time getting back to me. I told her I still felt he had some sort of parasitic skin disease and she agreed and said that based on "everything" he probably had mites. I asked her why she didn't think that in the first place and she said because of my dog's age. My dog is 9. She said it's very unusual to see mites in a dog my age. (obviously that sort of floored me.) She told me to come back in for a skin scraping and from there I would need to go to a specialist for canine skin diseases. I have already spent over a thousand dollars and the only thing I got out of it was my dog's ear infection cured. But I'm not all that surprised at how this has gone. This is why I'm here.

Anyway, I completed the antibiotics and anti fungal - they did help his ear but prompted the skin problem to spread. I looked at many pictures of dogs with demodex mange and my dog looks pretty similar: red scabby bumps, crusty spots, some oozing, not a lot of itching, but my dog wants to lick himself constantly. His feet hurt to walk on and he lays around most the day, though he is alert and affectionate and his appetite is great. So, I made a decision not to go back to the vet. Three reasons: I don't think she really knows what she's doing. I can't afford to be ripped off. I don't feel they will cure my dog.

I still firmly believe my dog either has mange or some sort of dermal parasite and so I'm going to commit myself to the borax treatment. If he does not get better at all after six treatments I will know that mites are not his problem. Good news is, he does appear to be slightly better after two baths. Yesterday, in between bath days, I did do an added borax-solution blotting, with a cotton ball, of the areas that are hardened from the dried lymph. I also blotted his feet this evening. I think they're slightly better. He will get another bath tonight. By the way, I said he turned very red after his last bath but the red changed to pink after about two hours. Isn't this an indication that we're dealing with mange?

Sorry this got so long, but I thought it might be good to give you all the details. I really want to make my dog better and I intend to do everything possible. Thank you again for answering my post and I look forward to hearing any advice you have for me.

Cheers!

Lisa


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Posted by Lisa (San Francisco, Ca) on 03/08/2016 11 posts

Oh and p.s. Yes, I've been doing the baths exactly as prescribed. Really drenching him and covering him from nose to tail, everywhere. The solution doesn't sting him, he was shaking because we kept him in the tub for a half hour and he got cold despite the water being warm. Also just from the excitement and stress of the ordeal. I was told not to wrap a towel around him and so we warmed the house but it was still too cold for him to be wet for so long. Next time I'm going to lay a few towels over him. I'd also like to post some pictures of him. Can I do that here?

Thanks again!


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Posted by Lisa (San Francisco, Ca) on 03/08/2016 11 posts

Hi Theresa, thank you so much for your response to my post. I am updating and changing this post which was originally posted on March 8th. It is now April 27th and I've learned a lot about my dog's illness. He did not have mange.

I recently took him to a new vet and his skin problems and the chronic inflammation of his paw pads was identified immediately as autoimmune disease: pemphigus foliaceus. This is why the borax treatment didn't work on the paws. (Oddly, it did appear to help with the red spots on his body.) Anyway my dog was prescribed prednisone and his feet were on their way to healing in less than a day. The borax baths did not harm him, and ultimately everything led to the right treatment. Now I will need to educate myself on natural remedies for Pemphigus foliaceus. Prednisone has to be taken with great caution and I'm hopeful that I can find herbs or a medicinal mushroom combo that will normalize his immune system.

Cheers, Lisa


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Posted by Theresa (Mpls., Mn) on 04/28/2016

Hello Lisa,

So glad to hear that you got a diagnosis! I found this to be a very informative veterinary article on this condition - it covers various medications and cautions about weaning off of the steroids carefully:

http://veterinarymedicine.dvm360.com/canine-and-feline-pemphigus-foliaceus-improving-your-chances-successful-outcome

Please keep us posted on what you find helps boost /normalize your dogs immune system.


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Posted by Jane (Massachusetts) on 07/20/2016

Tea Tree oil is a pretty strong oil, you probably should have cut it with a carrier oil. Oregano oil is powerful stuff and it is a hot oil. I've accidentally doused myself with oregano oil and it feels like you are literally on fire. The only way to stop the burning is to slather on a carrier oil to cut the hot oil. Like coconut, almond, olive, etc. I did this because I was battling a really bad flu, once I cut the oil and the burning wore off, I felt like a million dollars. I recovered that day. So it is powerful but you have to know how to use it.


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Posted by Theresa (Mpls., Mn) on 10/26/2016

Hello Lee,

Ted's Mange remedy works on many other skin issues - not just mange. However if not nipped in the bud early on, some skin issues can get out of control. It sounds like your dog may have secondary skin infections going on. To get a handle on this you need to look at the big picture. Are you feeding a quality diet? Diets with grains - corn, wheat, soy - have been linked to skin problems in dogs and doggie 'leaky gut' which causes sensitivities to food and other things. Consider alkalizing and also Ted's Borax Protocol for dogs to help treat a systemic yeast infection from the inside out. Consider topical application of coconut oil, or topical creams boosted with healing essential oils such as lavender. Your dog may benefit from wearing a t-shirt to protect the raw skin, as well as a good nail trim/file to limit the damage the nails do when your dog scratches. Oral supplements of turmeric. quercetin and yucca can help with inflammation and oral colostrum along with vitamin C, found at health food stores, may help boost your dog's immune system.


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Posted by Theresa (Mpls., Mn) on 03/21/2016

Hey Michelle,

The solution has a working life of 12 to 24 hours and generally does not keep.

Are you treating for mange - or are you using the dip to treat for itchy skin?


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Posted by Theresa (Mpls., Mn) on 01/04/2016

Posted by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 12/12/2014

The borax dose is the same regardless of the weight of dogs. In the end small dogs drink less than large dogs. The only difference is the sex of dogs which the female dog requires half the dosages male dogs.

So a female dog is always 1/8 teaspoon per liter dose. And male dogs is 1/4 teaspoon per liter water. Weight is irrelevant.

Timing:
Borax dosage for 1 week. Then 1/2 dosage in week 2. Stop for 1 week. Resume.

or

Borax dosage for 4 days, then no borax/water for 3 to 4 days. Continue on/off schedule until ailment clears.

Some reduce the dosage depending on weight of dog to prevent side effects but just know that beneficial effects will also take more time to see results when you reduce the dose.

This is most common dosages, just use common sense. Yes borax can be use for many unexplained conditions of dogs and human for simple reason that most unexplained conditions that cannot be cured with bacteria in majority of cases is fungus or parasites which borax does well but also is essential nutrient for the bones and hormones in mammals.

This modified dosaging has already explained long ago but that posting has been forgotten. Yeast infection and fungus and molds is also treated with borax. But there are other remedies but they not easy to find. Ted


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Posted by Jacqueline (Qld) on 01/18/2016

Hi thank you for the wonderful advice.

My beautiful Wolfhound Basil has been very distressed with his Mange. We start your treatment today. :)

Another thing we have found very helpful is raw natural honey, my daughter has bees so we have unprocessed unheated fresh honey.

This morning he was furiously licking the sores on his legs and feet while frantically scratching his armpits.

I applied honey to the affected areas and instantly he is a different dog, No licking nibbling or scratching, albeit a little sticky :)

It seems to be effective for about 4-6 hours

Thank you once again

Jacqueline



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