Vaccination Discussion Board

Has anyone else had Eczema as a side effect to the Twinrix shots. I have had a terrible breakout for months now and that is the only thing I did different last year for a trip. It took a couple of months to manifest and I did a candida cleanse as well. I think the combo of the two things were a recipe for this reaction, I have done a candida cleanse before without this reaction. Anyone have this experience and can you tell me how long it will last?

I've traveled in India, including Kerala, and I've only ever taken Hep A and Typhoid. I wouldn't miss those.

Hello, I will be traveling to Southern India (Kerala) in January and will stay there for 3 months. I'll possibly visit some neighboring countries as well.. There are a couple of vaccines recommended, those are: Hepatitis A and B (I already had Hep. A), Typhoid, Polio, Rabies, Japanese encephalitis and lastly, some medication for Malaria. I would love to avoid all of these vaccines because I am not sure that they are safe but I do not know if going without the vaccinations is a good decision.

Are these vaccines and medications dangerous?

I believe that Southern India is not as densely populated as is the Northern region and I would only be visiting the Northern area for short periods. Would I be less at "risk?"

I'd rather strengthen my immune system directly by taking probiotics and/or vitamins.. Any known remedies, products or ideas? What about Immunocal? I heard that one's own urine acts like a vaccine..

Suggestions, recommendations, and experiences will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Thanks for the information. I will check this out there may be some helpful information. Happy New Year.

Dear Cvp from Toronto, I do not have any helpful suggestions. But you may be interested to know that there are others reporting serious side effects from these flu vacines and that there is a recently created discussion of all this going on in the: Life Extension Forum. I will provide a link to one of those discussions. Hopefully some helpful advice can come from that discussion and here is that link: http://ask.lef.org/4517/Flu-Vaccine-Side-Effects

You may wish to join that forum and join that discussion. I will suggest describing the symptoms, condition in hopes of finding some helpful suggestions....Oscar

She might need to do some heavy metal detoxing. She may have some mercury poisoning. What are her other symptoms? She also may be experiencing something called Guillain-Barre Syndrome which occurs in 1 in a million cases of people who get the flu vaccination. The disease usually occurs in predisposed people but can be activated by the flu shot.

Signs and symptoms of Guillain-Barre syndrome may include:

• Prickling, "pins and needles" sensations in your fingers, toes or both
  
• Weakness or tingling sensations in your legs that spread to your upper body
  
• Unsteady walking or inability to walk
  
• Difficulty with eye movement, facial movement, speaking, chewing or swallowing
  
• Severe pain in your lower back
  
• Difficulty with bladder control or intestinal functions
  
• Rapid heart rate
  
• Low or high blood pressure
  
• Difficulty breathing
  

There is some helpful information about the flu shot here. Maybe just knowing what is actually in the shot will help to narrow it down.

http://www.mpwhi.com/the_truth_about_the_flu_shot.pdf

I hope it isn't too late for your friends daughter in-law. If it has caused an autoimmune reaction she needs to boost her immune system with Vit C, D3, marshmallow root, astragulus, and euchinacea.

To detox heavy metals she should try chlorella and spirolina. Also some cilantro might help. I pray she gets well again. I get so angry that our own governments push this harmful vaccine so much. It is not good for anyone to get it. It will not help the aging and sick if we get the vaccine since it is only effective in 1% of the people who get it. If you want to help keep the elderly and sick influenza free the best thing to do is take your vit c, D3 and vit E. Stay away from the flu vaccine.

Her body is obviously in a major toxic state. I would suggest that she needs to do a major detox. Lots of green juices to which are added chlorella and spirulina. Mega Vitamin C is also good to detox with.

Epsom salts in the bath is also good for a detox.

Does she drink diet coke or other drinks or foods with aspartame? It also sounds like an aspartame toxicity problem.

Someone else may have further suggestions.

Cvp, just a shot in the dark, but from what little I know, some Ionic Trace Minerals, Fulvic /Humic Acid would have to have some detox and enzyme boosting effect (mix suggested number of drops in some fruit juice). If she is unable to drink, I would ask for an IV infusion of Alpha Lipoic Acid for immediate detox and immune help.

If it were my loved one, I would also place a Detox Foot Patch on the bottom of each foot for 24 hrs for safe detox, (keep the covers over the feet and the hospital staff will never know). If anything, 1grm Vit-C per hr (mix w/ juice); Alacer has the popular "Emergen-C" effervescent powdered drink w/ B vits and electrolytes by mouth, or ask for IV C if necessary. For easy and immediate relief, Hyland's "Cell Salts" would help detox and nourish the blood; a few dots under the tongue as recommended.

Just my amateur two cents, and hope she makes a full recovery.

My friend's daughter-in-law had a flu-shot and ensuing fever for 2 months now. Tuesday, 27th Dec 2011, she fainted and had 2 seizures.

Hospital tested for Lupus, Meningitis and TB... she is not recognizing anyone and the doctors don't know the next step. When she fainted, she fell on her baby and her 4 yr old daughter called 911.

Any suggestions would be helpful...

I am back to update that my 3rd girl is also totally vaccine-free and she has yet to see a doctor.. She's already 19 months. She is a homebirth baby so absolutely no vaccine, no vit k, no eye goops... Lotus birth... she is jaundice-free..

I am expecting no. 4 now and God-willing, this will be a homebirth too and totally no vaccines either...

My daughter was suffering from the exact same symptoms and missed 30% of her school year. We were frustrated with our doctor because they too suggested it was depression. Here it is - we changed doctors and she was diagnosed with Hashimoto's Autoimmune diseas. She was undiagnosed and untreated for so long that her blood work revealed amazing off the chart increases that stated hypothyroidism and all of her symptoms were hyperthyroidism. She was very sick. I feel fortunate that I made the right decision to change doctors at the exact time that I did - I have no idea what may have happened to her if it had prolonged any further. I can't imagine what caused this to happen to her - I am suspicious of the Gardasil vaccine, it seems that a lot of her friends who are mere teenagers are having issues with their thyroid. It is a no brainer that something has been introduced to our childre's environmet that has spawned a disease that traditionally belonged to older adults.

Almost a year ago I was injected with the Tdap vaccine, since then I have not been the same, I have tried H2o2 and Chlorella with limited success but my symptoms, (tight leg muscles/weak arms/confusion) come back again.

I was also wondering if anyone else has had any similar reaction to the Tdap vaccine? If anyone has anything worth sharing to help get this out my system I would really appricate it, with a young family to provide for life is not easy at the moment.

I am also concerned whatever they stuck in me could have permently damaged something?

Thanks Jimbo

Thanks Sadie, unfortunately more often than not companies earn a lot of money on the postage costs making prices prohibitive! Too bad shops often offer a lot less than one can buy online and usually you can't even order anything in the shop. It is great we can resort to the Internet for some things but it made the stock in the shops smaller, I think. It should have been the contrary so that they could compete with the Internet? I do buy all my books online because even with the postage costs they are cheaper than in the shops, often not so with supplements.

In the meanwhile I did some research on Amazon UK and they have Lugol's 3% with free shipping to the UK so I can have it sent to my sister-in-law's address. Thanks!

Hi Francisca,

I buy online. Beanfreaks is great but they don't have everything sadly. Web retailer is great for many things, it's the only place I have found Lugols.

Many thanks Debbie, my nephew was also born at 26 weeks. I hope your son is well and in good health. I am very grateful for all your kind help and advice.

Hi Sadie, no worries. He was born at 26 weeks & came home on oxygen. He has a chronic lung disease which I was told he will slowly grow out of. His asthma wasn't too bad but he wheezed a lot. I used to put him in the bathroom with the shower running hot water if his wheezing got too bad. I did use the ventalin a few times during the night. He always had a wheeze but never really coughed a lot with it. He did get bronchiolytis and then croup (with stridor) so bad he stayed in the ICU o/n on oxygen. He was very prone to getting sick quite a lot.

One more thing with asthma that is very important.. vitamin D (the sun). A low level of vitamin D has been linked to asthma and low immune system. Kids are now going to school and kinder with hats and sunscreen and never get any sun during the day (and they are getting sicker).. Not to mention the sunscreens are full of toxins. We also drive with sun tints on our cars & wear sunglasses so don't get much sun either.

I give my son liquid chlorophyll, spirulina and chlorella all of which contain vitamin D as well as getting him outside in the sun as much as possible. I also give him liquid minerals.

Thank you so much Debbie for your help, you are an angel. Do you mind me asking how bad your sons asthma was?

Hi Sadie, where do you buy Lugol's in the UK? We go to the UK quite often and I have tried to find it in a health food shop in Cardiff called Beanfreaks, but they didn't have it. Funny enough it owed it's name to a French doctor, Jean Lugol but no one seems to know it here in France!

Hi Jenny, I have bought them at the chemist, supermarkets, and healthfood shops. In the healthfood shops you can get a 1 kg bag for about $6 (may be a bit less). The healthfood shop starts with V. When you think a cup of coffee costs about $4.50 it is quite cheap.

A cheaper way to get magnesium into you is to swim in the sea. It is like having a magnesium bath! I plan to take my son a lot this summer. Even standing in the water for 20-30 minutes is good for your uptake.

Hi Debbie, where do you get reasonably priced Epsom salts in Australia? I buy them but they tend to be quite expensive for small amounts and if you are bathing your son in 1/2 to 1kg each time you must go through them quickly. Thanks for your tips!

Hi Sadie

Yes sodium ascorbate is good. Epsom salts are made of Magnesium sulphate and apparently it doesn't last as long in the body as the magnesium chloride. You could start with twice a week and see how he goes or put him in a smaller bath so the salts are more concentrated. Epsom salts are quite cheap. For the eczema you may want to try probiotics (ones that need to be refrigerated). The epsom salts should also help with eczema.

The iodine should help his asthma and lung congestion and the eczema as well.

I found giving my son saturated fats helped him a lot (raw butter, chicken fat, coconut oil) and raw milk. He hasn't had any wheezing at night since I started him on those.

Many thanks Debbie. I hope you don't mind the questions, its difficult to get advice here in UK as most people I know don't approve of non vaccination never mind help to try and reverse the damage. I am hoping to order the required items soon. Is it vic c - the sodium ascorbate that I need? I have lugols 3%. How often for the epsom baths - is twice a week too little? How soon for results to appear - it is his asthma, eczema and cough that I am most concerned about, I want to limit the damage before it gets worse.

Sadie you could just start off slowly and monitor his reaction. I have been giving my son quite a lot to detox him and it hasn't had any ill effect. When I first gave him a lot of vitamin c it had a dramatic effect for the positive. Iodine and magnesium I think is key - read the below article I have linked to as well. If you don't detox him the toxic chemicals/heavy metals are left in his body to cause more damage.

Some people may have a reaction to taking iodine by bromide leaving the body and that can be allayed by eating bread or drinking sea salt in water followed by warm water until the person starts urinating.

For iodine it depends on the strength you have. If you have Lugols iodine it is very safe from what I have read. If you have 5% strength I would think if you start off at 1 drop and see how he is and use more as he tolerates it. I put it in milk.

For iodine you need to take the "companion nutrients" as well for the best effect. They are Magnesium, selenium (brazil nuts), Vitamin C.

The magnesium for my son (who is 4.5) I am giving him both epson salt baths which is magnesium sulphate and magnesium chloride baths. It enters the body quicker through the skin. I put about 1/2 to 1 kg in the bath each time.

Vitamin C should not be taken at the same time as iodine - leave it for an hour or so - powdered is best.. Again it is very safe just monitor his reaction. I usually give my son at least 1/4 tspn at a time.

The brazil nuts probably 1 per day would be enough.

Here is a great article on iodine.

http://www.heal-yourself.com.au/Iodine.html

Many thanks for all your responses, I am reading the recommended links now.

Debbie - what sort of dosage should I be looking at. My husband is concerned that the detox may be too powerful - is this likely. I am trying to tell him that adding the supplements you recommended wont do harm but good - any advice as to how I can allay his fears. He's just worried given the age of our son.

Try to Google Edgar Cayce-vaccinations. He's got good points on vaccination.

Heather, if your friend had a heavy metal problem she most certainly is iodine deficient.

She should supplement with iodine because low iodine in the mother will lower the baby's IQ. This has been well documented.

You need to supplement with iodine, and also its companions (that act in cohesion with iodine) magnesium, vitamin D and also vitamin c (taken at an alternate time). Magnesium is best taken transdermally (magnesium chloride or epson salts (magnesium sulphide) in bath water will reach body quicker than tablet form. Also brazil nuts (selenium) are needed to be taken with iodine as well (they could be crushed) in food.

Iodine is a heavy metal detoxer but has many other elements as well.

Autistic children have also been helped by the above protocol. Google "austim iodine"

Research iodine - it protect the body against heavy metals but most of us are now hugely deficient and the deficiency is passed to children through the mothers.

Dear Sadie,

For the clay bath instructions you can checkout sources: 1) Carolyn Dean MD - she has very specific dosages for clay baths with sodium bentonite clay.

Have seen the most wonderful results with detox and more with calcium bentonite green clay. A friend of mine could get concepted but not hold the pregnancy because of heavy metals in her cervix and uterus (probably from tampons) and she drank the clay every day for three months and has now conceived and holding the pregnancy well. She was trying for three years. Also good results with other people for other applications. But you have a todler. He won't drink the clay. So give him clay baths. They will leach the heavy metals and impurities from the skin. Parents of autistic children do this and see results as soon as several months.

For vit. D read the website of: The Vitamin D Council

And yes - it is International Units.

regards - Heather

Sorry Heather- is that dosage in iu?

Thank you both for your advice. I will try the vit d.

Heather how to do the clay baths - amount of clay to use and how often to bath. when will I know its worked?

Dear Sadie,

Yes you can reverse the vaccination reactions of your toddler. You will need 2 things: vitamin D (start with 3,000 units every day for 7 days and then reduce to 1,000units a day thereafter). Dr John Cannell has done wonders with vitamin D for children in all aspects: autism, ADHD, vaccination side effects. His assumption is that vitamin D corrects DNA in imparied cells in the body.

The second thing you need is to detox the child of the heavy metals that were in the vaccine. This is done most easily with clay baths on a regular basis. Either sodium bentonite clay or calcium bentonite green clay.

Have no doubt that with these two his symptoms will be alleviated greatly. May he receive the grace to grow up healthy and strong.

Hi Sadie - Dr. Mercola interviewed a pediatrician, Dr. Palevsky, about vaccinations for children. You may want to check out Dr. Palevsky's Web site. He has a number of articles, videos, etc about vaccinations (and other stuff) in the "Media Center" (top left hand of page), plus he has a Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page on how to treat common childhood ailments (ear infections, coughs and colds, fevers, etc. ) using natural (or as close to as possible) methods.

Here is his pdf on asthma in children:

http://www.drpalevsky.com/mediacenter/Alternatives_to_Asthma.pdf

Perhaps you could email him and ask him about the side effects of vaccinations and what you can do.

Best of luck! Bess

My toddler is over two and a half years old, he was breastfed for two years - only stopping due to second difficult pregnancy. Before I was any the wiser I allowed him to have the first lot of his vaccination at two months of age, following these he was quite ill - severe diarrohea for months on end. Doctors refused to admit it was the vaccine but from that point I refused to continue with them.

He has struggled to tolerate dairy and developed asthma (his dad has history of chronic asthma on his side and I suffer with nut allergies). He is on non dairy alternatives where possible - non soy and there are improvement. However his asthma and cough which is quite bad are continuing and never resolving despite the recommended remedies am trying to implement as shown on this site. I am going to give him coconut oil in his food as he refuses to take it neat.

My question is, can anyone recommend a way to reverse the impact of that first set of vaccinations which I feel caused his asthma and cough.

Please help.

I have been in a similar situation for the last two decades. Mono, fatigue, poor immune system led to a reduction in exercise and proper nutrition and an increase in stress and symptoms. I was also diagnosed as suffering from depression, Fibromyalgia, non restorative sleep, a severe D deficiency, early menopause, and so on. Stress was a major contributor to my lapses. I knew my system was out of sync, but drs and homeopaths offered me diagnoses, marginal short term improvements, but no clear cause. Supplements and Remedies helped delay a serious health outcome.

The lesson I learned is to maintain a healthy lymphatic system. In my most critical state of health, or lack thereof, eating food in its basic state like carrot, apple and wheatgrass juice, bran and banana smoothies with cayenne/honey and other herbal supplements, proscribed by an herbalist, helped my body to focus on healing and not digestion and absorbtion. A liter of pure water, plus keen attention to achieving several bowel movements each day. Bouncing gently on a trampoline daily and castor oil rubbed on my glands and abdomen kept me alive. I don't know if I'll survive my condition as years of misdiagnosis and toxicity from lymphatic blockage have run their course. I hope my experience can help her to possibly avoid my situation. I hope your sister gains strength from your love and the help of nutrients, and a improved lymphatic function.

Hi,

I'm wondering if anyone has thought that their symptoms or illness has been caused by being immunized as an adult? I was given the measles/mumps vaccine after the birth of my son 18 years ago. My blood test at the time said that it was inconclusive as to my immunity. So, my doctor ordered I have a booster. I was very healthy before then. About three years later, I developed extreme anxiety, panic attacks and depression. I then developed thyroid disease, specifically Hashimoto's thyroiditis. Fibromyalgia too. I have problems with allergies, digestion, etc. I have often wondered if I truly didn't need the booster. My doctor didn't ask to retest. He just gave me the shot. As far as my thyroid problems are concern, I had something else happen to me that makes me wonder. I was going to a chiropractor for back pain (also after the birth of my son) and while he was adjusting my neck, he pushed down to hard and crushed my throat against the table. I have asked many other chiropractors and doctors if this could have damaged my thyroid, to which the answer was always no. But, I know that it hurt a lot at the time and was sore for a long time after. I guess I would just like to understand why my health has been compromised without any explanation. Thanks.

Hi Tamara, from Boaz, Alabama. You've been given good advice already about the religious exemptions. I just want to add that you can also get it at your local health department.

I'm so happy you made the decision you have. I wish my daughter had listened. My two grandsons are both affected from vaccines (although tptb will never admit it). My 6 yr old grandson has ADHD (a pre-curser to Autisim). My nearly 2 yr old grandson is about to undergo testing for Autisim. It breaks my heart to see any child damaged with vaccines.

Hi about vaccinations. In Michigan you had to sign off with the school. My step daughter does not vaccinate her kids and all three are in school. Check with your school district.

Tamara from Boaz Alabama.

All you need to do is sign a paper that says, that for religious reason you don't want your children vaccinated. Ask the school about it they should have a form. We did this in Washington, Oregon, Iowa. so I think they can force you to take vaccinations, they can say that your children can't come to school if there is an epidemic I think, but you really don't want them at school in that circumstance anyway. Hope this helps.

Aurora

In most states there is a form you can fill out to state that you do not immunize. Ask for the form, or check online to get the correct laws for your state. We homeschool, and yet, we still need to fill out a form with the school district stating we choose not to immunize.

Does anyone out there know if it is required to get your child immunized to go to school. They are telling us that if our children are not they cannot enter school. I do not want my child to be immunized.

That gardasil shot has been linked to deaths and severe side effects. A few yrs ago my niece suddenly stopped talking to people she would only talk to me, my sister and our mother. My sister took her to various drs. to a child psychologist who said she must have had some traumatic event happen to her. Out of desperation my sister took her to a health food store that does an iris eye test, they concluded that she was overloaded with toxins from vaccinations, my sister put her on a vaccine detox supplement, sublingual b-12 and a few other products and shortly after she was back to normal. if you research vaccinations the ingredients are horrible you should have her see an herbalist and get her on a detox regimine of some sort. I heard on another website (i guess i can't mention)that 1 drop of mercury spilled and hazmat crews are called because it is so toxic but yet children can be loaded with it in vaccines along with monkey kidneys and various other ingredients. please update us on her progress. God bless

I go to the health food store to buy vitamins and stuff for me and my family, when I can afford it (as very expensive). I was given this pamphlet on homepathogy, (I think that is what it is, left the pamplet at my freinds.) anyways its an oral way of giving a flu vaccination as compared to an injection. As anyone ever heard of it or tried it and if so what were the results? Thanks. Oh I can never find my questions or replies ever, still looking for the other ones, so could someone please email me this respond if any and also at the same time let me know how to find my stuff. Thanks again. [email protected]

High dosage of Probiotic and fish oil, taken 3X a day (less than 3 months) healed my daughter of food allergies. Her allergies was triggered mostly from artificial colouring.

Probiotics to counter the antibiotics, and if she's had several courses you may be looking at a serious candida problem. For overall strenthening green powders are fantastic. I used to get every bug that was going around. Since starting a green powder I haven't been sick once-going on 2 years now. A good one will run 35-40$ and be mostly greens with little fruit or bran fillers. Start with a teaspoon twice a day and work up to a tablespoon two times a day. Healthfood stores carry the best quality-ask the staff for a recommendation. Get the best. This is one area not to skimp on. Rather than a single megadose of vit D once a week try 800 IU every day. And get a saliva test for adrenals. I have read of mono triggering hypoadrenia and I guarantee your doctor won't look for it. Clean up the diet. Nothing will help if she's eating junk. This has an inflammatory component so you will need to study up on anti-inflammatory and alkalizing diets. I hope this helps you.

Thank you to all for your thoughtful comments, I will be sure to pass this information along. I know she was taking some chewable vitamin c that I also take, I turned her on to a certain brand that tastes really good which made it much easier to remember to take. She's always been picky about tastes and textures. I will have to check if she still takes that.

Also, I did just hear about the case of the girl dying after receiving the vaccine. I've seen other people write about similar experiences, and though the vaccine companies aren't coming out with this information, I just don't think all these cases are coincidence. Also, she had more vaccines than me or my other sister and she's gotten the newer vaccines which weren't around when we were younger, like the chicken pox vaccine, etc. And she's the only one who has had these problems. Although she was more picky about eating nutritious food than us, so I'm sure that didn't help either. It scares me to think about all the vaccines they are pushing nowadays, with questionable efficacy and many health risks. It's just so important for people to realize that they shouldn't put the trust of their health into other's hands, I've been doing my own research for years now and would never rely on a doctor's diagnosis alone. They can be great for some things, but they are still human and it's your body and your health. As for vaccines, I am and would advise anyone to be very cautious about getting them. Especially reading the news about the mandatory H1N1 vaccines frightens me. I feel like that could especially be dangerous for my sister, yet they would say she probably should be high priority for one.

Anyways, thanks again for this site! I definitely am glad that there are resources like this and know that there are definitely things that can help my sister and cases like hers. I remain optimistic that things can get much better!

In addition to the Vitamin D-3, which is critical, please make sure the girl is getting enough Vitamin C, because the immune system won't function properly without it. Not only that, but Mono is a virus, and viruses deplete the body of Vitamin C, so she could have scurvy and not even know it. Amazingly enough, doctors are taught that most people get enough Vitmin C, even though that is NOT true (of course, to doctors, "enough" is a mere 60mg/day), and since they assume that most people are Vitamin C sufficient, they don't even recognize the signs of scurvy, even when they are staring them in the face.

I was thinking that the teenage girl who has energy and depression problems can try taking turmeric regularly. I have been thinking about that myself but haven't started it yet. I read on EC that turmeric is good to help autoimmune issues. (I need to bust out of a rut to incorporate new supplements.) I also read somewhere about adding black pepper to the turmeric might be important for assimilation. I bought turmeric at an Indian market and it was cheap.

Another thing I think is she might benefit from taking some food grade h2o2. If she doesn't have food grade yet then she could bathe in 3% h2o2 by pouring it on her body. I think it will get in her system and fight pathogens and increase her energy. She can also do the cure of the food grade h2o2 in the fine mist nasal spray bottle. What is the man's name who posted that? She might make magnesium oil and put it on her skin like we did. It has antiviral and antifungal properties. Oral magnesium malate will help, I believe. George Eby cured himself of depression with magnesium. She can read about that on the internet. She can search these things on EC also. I would remind her not to take vitamin C near the h2o2 because they will cancel each other out. Oxidant and antioxidant.

If she did get contaminated with the vaccine, I think those two supplements may be a good place to begin. But I don't know much, I just know what I would do and have done. I would clean up my diet drastically. Hippocrates said let your food be your medicine and let your medicine be your food. Calcium encourages viral growth so I would cut the milk and cheese. Sugar is a culprit and its common knowledge that it encourages fungus and yeast.

She might look into taking iodine. Dr. Brownstein has good info on that.

The vaccination may have been contaminated with a virus or fungus or bacteria or who knows what. So think along the lines of cleaning up the body and prepare it to fight its own battles. Also she might try taking oral magnesium malate, selenium, vitamin c along with the vit d she's taking.

Also lecithin granules is good to take between meals Ted says. Like oil pulling. Oh yea she can oil pull. Organic sesame oil is good. That will probably help.

I guess I'm thinking along the lines that she needs to detox from the vaccine. And don't get another one!

Her healing will be a process I'm sure. If she can just start by doing the things she has available and then add others as she can and see if she notices improvement.

If she will also relax and speak to her Creator and then listen, she might get some insight on what's going on with her.

I hope to hear a report that she gets her energy back.

Jane

Bee, I am so very sorry to hear about your sister. How horrible. There was a case in England a few days ago about a young girl who died shortly after the Gardasil shot, but they came out 24 hours later saying she had a pre-existing medical condition. I don't quite believe that. There must be many more side effects from the Gardasil shot than what we can locate though a search engine. The pharmaceutical companies know how to hide damaging information from appearing in search engine results.You really have to dig to uncover the facts.

The one remedy that comes to mind for your sister that may be helpful is the hydrogen peroxide inhalation method. Please keep us updated on your sister's condition. Best, Tara.

Undiagnosed Illness

I am writing to see if someone could help with my sister's situation, since this website has become an invaluable resource to me. She has been struggling with a fibromyalgia type illness for close to a year and a half now (not officially diagnosed). She is in her mid-teens and has had to drop out of school because of the weakness and fatigue, as well as the fact that she comes down with every little bug. She also says she has all over body aches and pains, as well as frequent headaches. It all started when she got mono, which was diagnosed early in 2008. This lasted many months and during that time she also had some swelling/enlargement of her spleen, which has since abated. The mono was going around among her friends, and probably contracted from sharing a drink. However, instead of getting better her situation progressively got worse.

Following up she was sent to a number of doctors. They were quick to diagnose her with depression, however, that just isn't the sister I know. She was down, yes, but only because she was sick. So they put her on cymbalta and they insisted on pushing the dose up to I think 90 mg, and she's a TINY person, approx 90 lbs and under five foot. This did not improve the situation and she's been lowered to about half dose. The doctor who prescribed it refused to think there was any other problem anyways. Other doctors, other tests and one finds she's dangerously low in vitamin D, so she starts on vitamin D supplements, megadoses taken once a week. It helps, but still she remains bedridden for the most part. At times antibiotics are prescribed and these seem to help, which makes it seem maybe there is a low grade chronic infection? Not sure.

Over time, I have done research and I can say some of it can likely be attributed to poor eating habits. But then we realize she had the gardasil vaccine shortly before ALL of this started. I don't want to say definitively that this is the cause, but it seems to strange to be a coincidence. Especially with everything I've been reading. Also, I don't want to get stuck on that diagnosis as the problem and overlook other possibilities.

Also, recently she took some immune system tests which showed that her immune system is responsive, it is not responding normally, which raises questions of autoimmune disorders?

What I'm really looking for is help and insight to get to the bottom of this and help to make her well again. Lately after a recent round of antibiotics she's doing better, but she has good and bad days and still mainly rests in bed. I refuse to believe there is nothing we can do, and also the doctors have unfortunately been relatively worthless and even have sometimes insinuated that my sister is faking and has duped my mom into believing it. I know she's not faking and I want her to be back to her old self. Please if anyone could help I would most greatly appreciate it! Thank you for your time and thank you for this wonderful site.

Hi Rachel, Just thought I should follow up- my first son only had three eruptions and no other symptoms. I just watched and observed questioning if it could at all be the chicken pox. Then my daughter broke out in them shortly after and finally my third son who had it pretty badly which confirmed that my oldest did get them but an extremely mild case. Also, I wanted to say that the best thing is to let them move through the illness but keep them comfortable through it. Do research in homeopathy as there are remedies to help through the discomfort and possibly shorten up the duration. If you google homeopathy for chicken pox you will find remedies for the various ways that the illness manifests. Hope this helps.

Thanks. I figured it wasn't too big of a deal. I wasn't even really sure it was chicken pox since it doesn't look quite like the pictures i have found online. He hasn't had a fever or anything and they don't seem to itch him. Could it be just a mild case? Perhaps because he doesn't have the shots...I wonder. I read to keep him separated from the other kids, but that is pretty much impossible. Thanks for helping me out. I definitely don't regret not giving them shots. I know they are healthier for it! All 4 of them have been so healthy...this is the first thing that has come against us, so it threw me for a loop.

Chicken pox is a natural child "sickness". As is the mumps and the measles. I have read that for children to get these "diseases", it helps to build their immune systems, and I believe that. They just came out with the Chicken pox shot within the last decade or so. Generations before have survived these "ailments".

I just thought I should reassure you. I have 5 kids ranging from 10 to 24 yrs. old and none have been immunized. I made that decision long ago after lots of research and was challenged often back then. I fortunately, had an amazing pediatrician who backed me because he said I had made an informed decision, one from researching and questioning rather than of ignorance. Chicken pox is actually a childhood disease that naturally occurs and from my own understanding, according to Chinese medicine, it is a way for the child to detox all the toxins it takes in while in utero. Your child's age is a good age for him to get them as at that age they usually are not that critical. When my children would get it, I would expose my other children to get it because it's not something you want as you get older. My third child had it the worst of the five but he is now 20 and a very healthy young man. All of my kids have been very healthy- rarely ever sick and I attribute that partly to choosing non- vaccinating. It's a controversial subject. Hope this helps you.

Sincerely, Lisa

Chickenpox in child with no vaccines:

My son is 18 months and just came down with chickenpox. He doesn't have any immunizations whatsoever. Could this be hazardous since he has no shots, or does it not really matter? Also, is there anything I can give to my other children to prevent them from getting it as well? Thanks.

Kathleen, what I did for my elder one was I fed her flax seed oil, coconut oil, spirulina, loads of Vit. C, all the good stuff I can afford or get my hands on. This was when she was a baby but as long as your child is willing to take them, feed them especially coconut oil. If you refer to coconut oil and it's benefits in this website or any other website, you'll find that it covers a lot of things.

My younger child, I refuse to let her be given even Vitamin K at birth. Absolutely nothing and she is stronger than the sis. Except for Roseola, she dun get fever. FLus, yes. Just give her water, vit c.

I'd question the doctors till I get a confident answer from the doctor. Read the inserts for the vaccine. Is it 100% effective? If not then give u something that is 100% effective? Will there be side-effects? Docs will most likely say mild fever, rashes, etc BUT is the doctor willing to support your child for life should your child get bad reactions such as seizure, paralyse, etc? Most likely you'd get kicked out of the doc's office if u were to question like that but hey it's your child's health and life we are talking about here. If your child can't function like a normal person, do you know who will take care of the child? YOU!!!

Read about nutrition, understand food. We can't be perfect but you have got to be strong-willed to not let your child consume too much sugary food, junk food. It's not easy. I am surrounded by ppl who hands out candies to kids to calm them but I am firm with my NO. Unless I am not aware, Ihave never seen my child licked a lollipop before.

Meat, as far as I can avoid them for my child, I will. My understanding is that meat takes 3 times longer to digest and sitting inside too long will produce toxic stuff so maybe when they are older.

Refer to Dr. Mercola's site, read Dr.Mendelssoh's book, www.doctoryourself.com, www.nmaseminars.com, http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/, www.thinktwice.com n d sites they refer. Find your balance.

IF, just in case...if there were mandatory vaccinations, especially for our children. What can a novice to natural remedies do to prevent harm from the vaccinations. I have read a few things online, but most would confuse someone who has never heard of MMS or a mixture of other supplements. What would be the most understandable method of protection. Thanks!

My kids are still young. I guess I will worry about school when time comes. I may opt to homeschool my kids. I can't publicly tell you my other option but u can email me if u really wanna know.

If you look up websites recommended in Earthclinic, you can find that in US, you have a lot of ways to handle the issue of vaccination and school enrolment. Pretty easy and convenient. You can also try to contact ppl from those websites.

Health is more important. Find a school that will accept your unvax kids. I rather haf the inconvenience of homeschooling them then to have to take care of them my whole life should they be damaged by vaccines. I haf seen damaged done but docs will never say it's from vax.

If they are no longer able to take care of themselves, how are they gonna learn in the first place. At anytime, I rather have a not-so-smart kids than have kids who are not even able to take care of their own basic needs like bathing, eating, etc.

Being in the US, you have great homeschooling materials. Here, it is not that widely accepted and materials are not all that cheap or available. SO you have an advantage.

Weigh your choices. Good Luck!

I JUST HAD MY 16 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER TO THE PHYSICIAN FOR A SPORTS PHYSICAL AND HE SUGGESTED THE MENACTRA VACCINE BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A QUICK AND DEADLY VIRUS? WHAT HAVE OTHER PARENTS DECIDED? THANK YOU

From Dr. Mercola's site - Legally avoiding vaccinations:
http://www.mercola.com/article/vaccines/legally_avoid_shots.htm

Vaccination Liberation - looks to be a great resource with letter templates, links to state laws, etc.
http://www.vaclib.org/index.htm

Excellent letter from a lawyer parent to a school board:
http://www.vaclib.org/letters/Letter_Oregon_School_District.htm

With the swine flu being so hyped and school starting again soon, we are potentially facing some big issues. We may encounter pressure, if not outright assault, on our sovereign rights over our own bodies and the care of our children. Arm yourself with knowledge now to stay healthy and to keep Big Pharma and government out of your bodies, your childrens' bodies, and your wallet.

I have a form that I typed up for myself and a few friends that do not have their children vaccinated (as well as myself used for college and nursing job.) I would be happy to forward it to anyone interested. They can not force you to have your children vaccinated. I even used it 10 years ago for my daughter in daycare. BY the way...the daycare RN called me one morning and said all of the children in my daughter's group had broken out with a strange looking form of chicken pox. My daughter is the only one who did not get it and she was the only one who had not received the chicken pox vaccine, however she did get chicken pox 1 year later after I purposely exposed her to a neighbor's child with it. (Just like my mother did me). Vaccines are dangerous. Do your research and don't get your information from your doctor. Your children are worth it.

This question is for Woong from malaysia: How do you get your kids in school without them being vaccinated. I have also heard many negative things about vaccines but am worried that my children would not be accepted in school if I dont get them vaccinated. Can you please advice.

I would like to comment on vaccinations. My first child got 3 jabs because the pediarician threaten me and I was not informed nor educated on the matter. I heard from a direct-selling company founder that she did not vax her later kids and they were healthy. But that's all the info I got.

After d 3rd jab, seeing my 1 month old cry pierced my heart. I sat down and search all that I can online about vaccinations. I was shocked. It took me a long time to read and I never finished reading. There was just too much info, too much damaged. I didn't want to be another statistic.

Parents. I urge all of u to read up. My 2nd child never got a single jab and she is much healthier than the elder one. Do some comparison. Vaccinated vs Unvaccinated Kids. My children never had to be admitted into a hospital nor have they ever need to visit a doctor. I breastfeed them fully. It's not eay nor it is always convenient. BUT it is worth it. Just a few years and u get helthy kids. Take responsibility on what you put in your child's mouth. Dun give them candies, colas, junk food and expect them to be healthy.

Fever, flu, coughs and childhood diseases are part and parcels of growing up. This site has a lot of great advises which I refer to aside from reading "How to Raise a Healthy Child In Spite of YOur Doctor" Always take responsibility for your own child. Research and ask till you find something that you are comfortable with.

Ppl, friends, relatives around me dun believe or support my decision but I have 2 healthy children to show. Never given them any medication. 4 and 1 plus children.

Keep up the good work EarthClinic. I am always recommending your website to my friends. I rather try natural remedies first. Never had to use drugs so it goes to show, natural remedies work.

Ted posted a response to a similar question re Swine flu vaccination. He suggested Lysine, Hydrogen Peroxide and fresh coriander (aka cilantro or Chinese parsley). I am not sure if Lysine is specific to the swine flu virus, but the coriander will be useful as will the HP. The coriander is eaten to remove heavy metals (Mercury) from the body and this metal is thought to be present in all vaccinations. You can check out the Heavy Metal Detox page for more information. The HP is not so simple if you've never used it before. You should read up on this (there's a page dedicated to HP) and make sure you buy the right kind (food grade) and dilute it properly (to a 3% solution). If you don't like the thought of drinking it (I didn't at first either), you can also bathe in it and it will enter the system.

Regarding vaccines, I have a question about about the HPV Gardisil vaccine... I recently got this vaccine for my 16 yr old daughter while at a dr appt. The doctor recommended, so I listened to the dr. This was before I knew about this website and the important information here. I sincerely regret ever getting her this vaccine and I am wondering if there is any way to "detox" her from this? She got the shot about 3-4 months ago. Please advise, I am very concerned now. Thank you so much!!

WARNING!

32 girls have died!

Please watch video on drastic side effects of Gardasil vaccine which is supposed to prevent cervical cancer. We have to admit it works, because I have never heard of a dead person who developed cervical cancer from and reportedly 32 have already died following the vaccine!!!!!! If you have a web site you might save a few lives by adding a link to this site on your web site!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msoyRYSoSJk&o=1672350&u=53322284&l=1608440&g=6810

Hopefully most of you have heard about the avian flu vaccine in Europe although our propaganda media apparently plans to keep it hid. Seems some brilliant scientist injected some little 4 leggeds with the vaccine and they died from avian flu. When they called it to the manufacturers attention, they said they had accidently contaminated the vaccine with the avian flu virus. When pressed to explain how they managed to accidently contaminate the vaccine with this particular virus, their story changed to they had accidently shipped out the avial flu virus instead of the the flu vaccine?????????? How did this happen ACCIDENTALLY?????? For more on this go to Natural Solutions Foundation! http://www.hsibaltimore.com/

Nosodes - Alternate Vaccines for Children: I have been search for two years for an alternative to giving my son tradition vaccines. He is two years old and I finally found the solution for my family. Nosodes. They are homeopathic remedies that are made from the specific products of a particular disease. This can be tissue containing the actual disease agents or tissue affected by those agents. Sometimes nosodes are made from vaccines containing the organisms. The nosodes are prepared in a diluted and potentized form just like all other homeopathic medicine. There is no potential for an animal to become infected with a given disease agent from a nosode because of the pharmaceutical process that occurs which dilutes and inactivates any viable organisms.

I found a local doctor to prepare the mix for me and I will be giving oral doses to my son 3X day. I have 3 bottles and they cover all of his vaccines including the flu without any of the harmful chemicals of traditional vaccines.

I read the article and am sitting here writing this email with tears in my eyes.

I was a US Soldier in 2003 when I was wrongfully diagnosed, by a 3rd world doctor, with cervical cancer. I was told to wait for the lab results but that I would likely need to have the essence of my feminity removed.

The day before my scheduled surgery, a happy accident occured. My so-called physician was out for the day and the director of the hospital attended to me. After looking at my records carefully, he deduced that my results had been misread and he gave me another cervical exam.

I did not have cancer, only cervical inflammation. (I was a newly wed.)

He injected me with the HPV vaccine and within 5 minutes, I was dismissed and released for work.

I come from "hearty breeding stock" as does my husband. I've never had issues with my cycles and have been looking forward to having children for years. We've been trying to conceive for over 5 years and I haven't come up pregnant- not once.

It kills me to think that the medical community will think nothing of spending billions of dollars on Viagra and yet balk at the thought of helping women save their ... I don't know, their self-worth. I feel like I've been gypped. I feel robbed. Like the male doctors think my femaleness is a liability and not worth saving.

Article on Mercola's site... thought EC readers would be interested: Prominent Scientist Warns of HPV Vaccine Dangers

Many people do not realize that the information you get from the Dr. about vaccination is designed to make you believe that the best thing you can do is to get your child vaccinated. If you do not they try to get you to sign a form that basically incriminates you by stating you were made aware of the benefits of vaccines for your child & you refused. Thus you can be charged for neglecting the welfare of your child & have the state move in & then vaccinate you child anyway. They do not state the fact that there is a fund set up just for injury and death payments for adverse reactions to vaccines. WHY IS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO ASK YOUR SELF...CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF. HRSA-VICP (vaccine injury compensation program) Do some research and you will be amazed at the Hundreds of millions of dollars paid out to the lucky people that could actually get their Dr. to admit that their childs injury or death came from the vaccine. Now imagine how many more cases have not made it because the Dr. said oh that's not the cause. Remember Dr's dont want to be the one to admit they administered a vaccine that caused an adverse reaction in your child and be liable.

What about the flu mist? My daughter's elementary school starting giving flu mist last school year and I just signed them up again this year. I have a friend who became a biofeedback technician this past year and told me to quit taking the flu shots. She said my body reacted to them. But I have been getting my kids the flu mist the last few years.

I say don't do it, they put mercury in the shots...you really don't want it. And also, they haven't got a clue as to which vaccine to give. Please make sure you don't let your children get it also. Watch "Know the Cause" and you will be awakened like never before.