Managing Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis Naturally: Best Remedies to Try

This P.F. condition I have suffered with for decades and eventually found the cause is a Mycoplasma Infection. This is certainly not always the case, but where there is infection and fibrosis, the chances are likely. The immune & repair mechanisms of the lungs are inhibited by the mycoplasma, thus chronic conditions and sometimes fatal.

Here is the E.C. page for more info https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/mycoplasma_fermentans.html

As for effective treatments, Borax is best for whole body, along with Colloidal Silver, Uva Ursi, Oregon Grape + Garlic, among many other herbs like Pau d' Arco, Cat's Claw, etc..

For the lungs specifically I do occasional Magnet Therapy, then Zapping, then nebulize Colloidal Silver with good results, yet have other conditions that will not allow complete healing (working on that).

The synthetic antibiotic Doxycycline has many good reviews in this case, as it both inhibits mycoplasma replication and stimulates lung repair or regeneration.

Remedies for Pulmonary Fibrosis

10 yrs ago I have pneumonia fluid in the lungs, hospital for 10 days with very potent antibiotics did not work diarrhea no appetite did not get well, then sent home with pique line antibiotics again. Miraculously, got well no fever but pain in the back. Dr said I had scarring in the lungs.

I start doing my own research supplementing with high dose vitamin c, magnesium, repair my gut with colostrum and probiotics and start organic only 2000 mg NAC fish oil high dose, and alpha lipoic acid and many more antioxidants. I avoid Cafo meat grass fed if possible.

Have P.E every year my GP said I was lucky. He didn't ask me what I do I'm willing to share with him, but not interested.

Hope it helps someone.

There have been quite a few posts on EC about people looking for help for IPF, but I have not seen any posts discussing melatonin and IPF.

Here are some fairly recent studies suggesting that melatonin may offer some help in this area. Melatonin has a very good safety profile and is naturally produced by the human body suggesting a lower potential for adverse reactions. Melatonin is also readily available here in the states and is fairly inexpensive.

http://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/19/4/1118/htm

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26122220

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/jpi.12302

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0097266

https://www.atsjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1164/ajrccm-conference.2016.193.1_MeetingAbstracts.A4169

Given the severe nature of IPF, it may be beneficial to look at as many options as possible and determine their relevance for your particular situation!

Art

Nat, I don't know about a mold "connection" causing my PF. It could have been any number of things... But since I didn't get into all that with the pulmonary doctor after she told me she wanted me to have surgery for another issue that she was concerned with, in addition to the lung biopsy, there's no way for me to know. I used to cough uncontrollably also.

Will the Serrapeptase and NAC take care of it? I don't know, but the alternative is well, not good.

All I know is that there was a package for Pulmonary Fibrosis that I could not afford, so I've done what I can with the money that I have. I've tried to figure out what would be similar, as they used serrapeptase, a formula that I think had serrapeptase and nattokinese, and some other things. The closest enzyme I could find that had the other things, I found in a enzyme formula, and since we are not allowed to name a specific formula, the ingredients in it are pancreatin, protease, amylase, lipase, bromelain, rutin, papin, serrapeptase, trypsin/chymotrypsin complex, trypsin, chymotrypsin, amla fruit.

In a few months, when I can afford it, I may add that formula to my aresenal.

And then, I've used the NAC, but alternated it with mucolyxir (microdose dna). I think the objective is to get the mucus out.

I used to wheeze so loudly that I had a hard time going to sleep, and although I'm sure I wheezed throughout the day, as soon as my head hit the pillow. So that's improved, because I hardly notice it anymore.

See, I was diagnosed with asthma about a year before the other diagnosis. My doctor wanted me checked for asthma because I was coughing a lot, and it took a month for me to get the pulmonary function test. The woman who did it suggested I tell my doctor my lips were blue that day. So, who knows which came first, the chicken, or the egg (the asthma, or the pulmonary fibrosis?

I also do read healing scriptures, Psalms 103:1-4, Isaiah 53:1-6, Psalm 118:17, and all the healing that Jesus did in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. I don't see where He refused to heal anyone that came to Him.

Hello Audrey.

Thanks for a very inspirational post above. I am a 74 year old man in Cape Town and was diagnosed with Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis (IPF) about 2 years ago. Although your husband has UIP, the condition is similar to mine. My pulmonologist said that it is incurable but that the symptoms could be relieved to an extent by taking ACC 200 mg effervescent tablets (1 three times a day in water). These have helped but just before Xmas I was involved in a major motor accident in which the seat belt and airbag saved my life, but gave my thorax quite a knock. My breathing has rapidly got worse since then.

I was very interested in reading about the use of H2O2 (peroxide) and am going to try this, initially taking it as drops in water. I am seeing the doctor again soon, and will see what his reaction is, as he never mentioned this idea to me. I know the chemical process - essentially the hydrogen peroxide is unstable and produces molecular oxygen and water. It is the oxygen that helps with the condition. It is in a way the same as having oxygen from a cylinder. (It's also why H2O2 bleaches hair and materials).

As far as a cause is concerned, I believe I may have contracted IPF from the dust of cat litter (the clay type) having been cleaning the kitties' trays every day for the last 20 or so years!

Thanks again for the post - Phil

Anyone want to get rid of IPF (Idiopathic Fibrosis of lungs), please try homeopathic medicine....Nitrium Phos 200. Take this medicine everyday and be happy and trust in God. Please try to be happy all the time. Worries only add to the disease.

The program outlined for the best way to use HP is only a suggestion, but it is based on years of experience, and reports from thousands of users. Those who choose to go at a slower pace can expect to progress more slowly, but that certainly is an option. The program is not carved in stone and keep in mind that it can be adapted to fit individual needs. Individuals who have had transplants should not undertake an H202 program. H202 stimulates the immune system and could possibly cause a rejection of the organ.

Day #/Number of Drops/ Times Per Day (Add drops to 4-8 ounces of water or juice)

• 1 - 3 / 3
• 2 - 4 / 3
• 3 - 5 /3
• 4 - 6 / 3
• 5 - 7 / 3
• 6 - 8 / 3
• 7 - 9 / 3
• 8 - 10 / 3
• 9 - 12 / 3
• 10 - 14 / 3
• 11 - 16 / 3
• 12 - 18 / 3
• 13 - 20 / 3
• 14 - 22 / 3
• 15 - 24 / 3
• 16 - 25 / 3

Maintenance Dosage
In most situations after the above 21 day program, the amount of H202 can be tapered off gradually as follows: (add drops to 4-8 ounces of water or juice)

• 25 drops once every other day for 1 week
• 25 drops once every third day for 2 weeks
• 25 drops once every fourth day for 3 weeks

This can then be reduced to between 5 and 15 drops per week based on how one feels. Those with more serious problems will often benefit from staying on 25 drops three times a day for one to three weeks, then tapering down to 25 drops two times daily until the problem is resolved (possibly as long as six months). Those with chronic systemic Candidiasis may need to start with 1 drop three times a day, then 2 drops three times a day before starting the above schedule. It is important that H202 be taken on an empty stomach. This is best accomplished by taking it either one hour before meals or three hours after meals. If there is food in the stomach, the reaction of H202 on any bacteria present may cause excess foaming, indigestion, and possibly even vomiting. Additionally, some animal research indicates that when H202 given orally combines with iron and small amounts of vitamin C in the stomach, hydroxyl radicals are created (J Inorg Biochem 89;35(1):55-69). The bleach-like aftertaste of H202 can be lessened by chewing one of the sugar-free cinnamon gums. Some individuals taking H202 immediately before bedtime have a difficult time getting to sleep. This is probably due to a sense of alertness triggered by an increase of oxygen at the cellular level. The oral dosage schedule is basically the same for all conditions. There are several points to keep in mind, however.

Some individuals may experience upset stomach. If this occurs it is recommended that one not stop the program, but rather remain at the current dosage level or reduce it to the previous level until the problem stops. (Some patients have been able to solve the nausea problem by taking three or four lecithin capsules at the same time they take the H202. ) During the program it's not uncommon to experience what is known as a healing crisis. As dead bacteria and toxins are released from your body it may temporarily exceed your capacity to eliminate them quickly enough. In some individuals this overload may cause fatigue, diarrhea, headaches, skin eruptions, cold or flu-like symptoms, and/or nausea. One should not discontinue using the peroxide to stop this cleansing. By continuing the program, toxins will clear the body sooner and this healing crisis will pass rather quickly.

If you are not already taking vitamin E and an acidophilus product, I recommend starting them before going on H202. Vitamin E can make more efficient use of any oxygen available and acidophilus will help re-establish the beneficial bacterial flora in the lower bowel and also help in the internal production of hydrogen peroxide.

I went by a medical study completed in Mexico to determine the amount. I started out at 1.5% (Food Grade mixed with distilled water) based upon the study. I had no side effects whatsoever.

In reply to Anita from Maryland (2018) in the Oil Pulling Thread, who wrote:

"My husband has Pulmonary Fibrosis and I am looking for remedies to help him. He can no longer sit up for more than a minute. But laying in bed on his back is how he gets the best oxygen. He also suffers from anxiety and depression. He has a lot of back pain from a fall in 3 years ago. On his back his oxygen level is any where from 86 to 91% at level 2-1/2 to 3. When he panics the level goes down and we have to turn the concentrator up to 5. I am looking for any help to keep him safe and alive. Sincerely, Anita"

I was on oxygen recently and the doctors told me about proning. You lay on your stomach and the front of your lungs do not have to work so hard since your body is using the back of your lungs. My oxygen levels would go from 89 to 93 in under a minute (on oxygen ) It might work better since I had pneumonia. However the doctors at the hospital all day to prone for hours in the icu.

Also, check and see if his breathing gets worse after certain medications or food..I get chest pain right after I take some medications for pain and processed food ...I'm serious. I will pray for you all that you find relief.

IPF:

Over the years I have settled on a programme which has had a positive effect on 92% of those who stay within its guidelines.

I also assume the worse ie it is a slow growing cancer - adjusting the capability of the body to take in at least 75% of oxygen and nitrogen and expelling 90% of carbon dioxide. Research indicates that cancer cells do not flourish in a body with adequate oxygen and discharge of carbon dioxide along with other negative substances, including their rubbish!

Look up Yoga Breathing exercises for Asthmatics. Within 1 week, the breathing pattern improves. It is important that the diaphragm is used to completely empty the lungs and the inhalation is deep enough to take the air to the bottom of the lungs.

Pattern: 3 inhalations - 3 times a day. Start first thing in the morning. Standing up if you can.

Visit your medical adviser. Too often interaction between medication drugs makes the condition worse. Ask for a review. If you are refused change your GP. Ask for an allergy test. Worse ones - statins, blood pressure conrollers and blood thinners. Recently Thyroxin has also come under the radar.

Did you know that during the last 10 years there has been much information released outside the UK showing that the stopping of or reducing of these 3 has not resulted in more deaths AND the patients on them, if they follow the mantras below, have a much better chance. Natural replacements, Hawthorn for BP. Chronic sufferers Hawthorn with Broom. DO NOT STOP your prescribed medication without consulting a fully qualified Natural Health practitioner

Three main points have to be followed for 6 months - without a break. No Smoking ( including the inhaling of perfumed steam - by any means} No alcohol. This means also cutting down the intake of substances that turn into alcohol. Mainly sugars. Any type that is not under the control of a plant and goes onto to a process system.

Turn to enzyme therapy . Suggestions Serraptase 3 times a day for 6 weeks and 0.1% Food Safe Hyaluronic Acid breathed through an inhaler for 30 seconds - 1 hour after a meal (any will do) for 14 days. If coughing occurs, have a small flask of mullein flowers and 1 stick of licqorice made up. Gargle a mouthful - then swallow. REMEMBER - the feeling that you can't breathe is certainly a sign of too much carbon dioxide in your body. DON'T panic. Carry out the breathing exercises

Elizabeth Fully Qualified Natural Medicine Practitioner

It has been over a year since I last posted on this site.

I am still doing amazingly well. Blood oxygenation varies between 97-99 and I was diagnosed nearly 4 and 1/2 years ago. I have found doctors for a lot of IPF patients. They report back to me that their oxygenation is better and there are no reports of additional fibrous tissue on subsequent CT scans. Pretty darned remarkable! I have not heard back from anyone that didn't get better in at least some way. Some of them, the results have been dramatic, some of them the results were more subtle but at least there was some improvement in one way or another.

Due to the numbers of IPF patients that have stayed in contact, and all the consistent positive changes we have started a study. If interested in the study go to ipflaserstudy.com and check it out. Make no mistake, I nor anyone else claims this to be a cure, because the laser treatment does not appear to remove the fibrous tissue on subsequent CT scans. However, it does appear to arrest the progression of the disease. I would also suggest to IPF patients to join the forum for IPF patients.

Go to PulmonaryFibrosisNews.com It is a forum with caring, loving and supportive people and can be very helpful to you. If you would like to find a laser provider near you go to Klaserusa.com. At the top of the page click on Medical Patient. Then on the far right at the top of the page click on Find a Medical Provider. God Bless everyone dealing with this terrible disease.

Just know there is hope.....

Dr Hall

Hello everybody, first of all I would like to thank everymember on this site for sharing their experiences and situations, and recommendations, this definatelly helps other users to have a better understanding about their ilnesses.

My dad suffers from pulmonary fibrosis since 2010, it seems like every time situations gets worse, he gets tired easily, and constantly has to be on artificial oxygen.

After reading posts about similar situations on this site, I saw that many users are relying on aloe vera oil juice and apple cider vinegar, I definitely think this will help improve my dad's health, I just want to know what would be the ideal portions of this two products and what would be the right amount of times to drink it. Please anyone am waiting for an advice, ...

I have pulmonary fibrosis a lung disease that HAS no cure.Yet, since I have been on Sunflower Oil (cold pressed & Unrefined) my lungs within 4 days begain to have a healing effect that even the Doctor's don't quite understand?! What this oil is doing for my Lungs is or has brought back my Breathing as I have never expected. I had Cancer in my right lung and this oil has completely healed it completely... Amen! If you are interested in the healing of your lungs... please go to the health store and purchase one (1) bottle of this oil and place it within your mouth and swish it around until it turns white; spit it out and then brush your teeth and wash your mouth with tooth paste... As well look on the Net for: "Oil Pulling Cure" and learn what it will do for you... Jimmy.

Bravo for you taking your health in your on hands!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Hi.This is my story and its for all of you to read. I was on holiday in Morroca xmass 2014 and some people in the hotel had severe colds. Well within hours I started to feel unwell and after a few days was contemplating air ambulance home. However managed the plane journey ok and when I got back home went straight to the doctor he's a wonderful man. he sounded my chest and thought there was crackling sounds and considered congestive heart disease. Had an xray and he sent me to a cardiologist, who thought my heart was fine right place and not enlarged. He refered me to a lung specialist and suggested a ct scan prior to seeing the lung specialist. He said he was concerned about the crackling and the white colour on the bottom of the lungs.

Had the scan on the 12th Jan 2013 and saw the specialist on the 19th Jan to discuss the results. I saw the pulmonary nurse prior to seeing him and I was registering 44 breaths per minute. I entered the consultant's room and was told he had Bad News and that I was terminaly ill and should go home and put my affairs in order. I lost hearing and left in a daze. The delivery was brutal. I was 66, lived on my own and had never developed friends in my area, I cried all night, not for myself but as to how I was to tell my family.

I am alcoholic and was sober 18 yrs at this point and then I got very angry and shouted out at 5 am that I did not sober up to die of a silly lung disease ( I used another kind of language ) when I calmed down I googled the name of the disease and Naturopathic possible cures. I was directed to a website and thanks to their clinic the sent me the medication from the USA it was six different capsules and had to be taken 3 times a day.The Social/Health system kicked in straight away Hospice care took over all the paperwork for extra income which helps the terminally ill. I had just opened a new 1 man business 3 month prior to diagnosis. I used 1 day at a time to cope with the illness after 2 months I was able to return to work that was march 2014.

Today is 1st October 2016. When I next saw the consultant bless him I asked if he thought I was better but he concurred with 7 other specialists and they said severe honeycombing meant I would not live 12 months. I defy the odds and a day at a time is good for me. I know there is no cure but you can stabilise it and slow it down last function test he said no further deterioration.They don't recognise Naturopathic cures because they are not empirically tested haha. I cannot make any criticism publicly and don't wish to. All I say is take responsibility for your own health and go for quality of life rather time.

One last thing, after he said no further deterioration smart alec her stopped the treatment and became very ill with 4 weeks all the ridges on my nails had dissapeared but they were back without the Naturopathic medication. be guide by your heart and do not refuse medication offered. I tried all of them and they made me feel so ill I could not get out of bed.

About Gout, try honey mixed with apple cider vinegar. I take it with sparkling water this combination is called Malic Acid and it neutralises the uric acid and allows the kidneys to accept it and deliver it to the bladder it disolves the uric acid crystals. Google Sir Ranolph Feinnes and read his article

There is home remedy for gout I know and it is fenugreek seeds. You just have to soak fenugreek all overnight and then eat it in morning and drink that water. It helps in gout

Hi, my consultant gave me 10 months to live in 2015 and I am still working. I found a company in US who supplies Trebinase and Serrapeptase which has given me 3 extra years and it works for me. I hope this helps.

Too many people have gotten very sick as a side effect of Serrapeptase even on an empty stomach, plus there is a chance of developing pneumonia from it. What about Natookinase? Why don't we hear anyone else talking about this enzyme. If you look it up, it says that it too eats away at scarring.

Thank you.

My response to all the people whose loved ones are having lung issues.

Listed below are some remedies,

• Exposure to sunlight.
• Body Massage.
• Yoga.Meditation.
• Castor oil packs.
• Serrepeptase-an enzyme.
• Turmeric taken with oil and pepper.
• Aloe Vera.Pineapple.Cod Liver Oil, Fenugreek, Tulsi, Figs, Liccorice, Onions.Garlic,
• Ginger.Black Pepper.Ginseng.Ajwain seeds.Star Anise.
• Quercetin-is a flavanoid found in fruits and vegetables.Quercetin supplements can be purchased online.
• Nigella Sativa(Kalonji or Black seeds).
• Honey.Vitamin C.Vitamin A.Zinc.
• 6-8 glasses of spring water.
• NAC- this is a supplement. it helps to produce Glutathione, a master antioxidant in the body..It can be purchased online from Amazon or IHerb.

My mother was diagnosed with IPF in 2008. She has improved with sunflower oil pulling. In a day or two I'm planing to start Hydrogen peroxide drops delivered to the patient in water. To be on the safe side I will start with 7 drops per glass of water. Lets see if it helps. Prayers can change destinies.

T,

In the following review they describe the use of NAC for IPF at 600 mg three times per day in divided doses for a total of 1800 mg/day.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6566037/#:~:text=NAC was orally administered in, and pirfenidone (two studies).

Here is a relevant quote from the review :

' The most commonly used oral dose [76.19% (16/21)] was 600 mg three times a day (1, 800 mg per day). Combined therapy frequently included corticosteroids (13 studies) and pirfenidone (two studies). '

Regarding the use of melatonin for IPF, no dosing schedule has yet been established. I can't give a dosage recommendation since I am not a doctor, but I can mention studies where melatonin was used for Parkinson's disease at 10 mg/day and 50 mg/day to good effect in the study participants. Here is a link to the 10 mg study :

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0303846720302213?via=ihub

Here is an important quote from the study :

' Compared with the placebo, melatonin supplementation resulted in a significant reduction in serum high sensitivity C-reactive protein (hs-CRP) (β -0.94 mg/L; 95% CI, -1.55, -0.32; P = 0.003) and a significant elevation in plasma total antioxidant capacity (TAC) (β 108.09 mmol/L; 95% CI, 78.21, 137.97; P < 0.001) and total glutathione (GSH) levels (β 77.08 μmol/L; 95% CI, 44.29, 109.86; P < 0.001). Additionally, consuming melatonin significantly decreased serum insulin levels (β -1.79 μIU/mL; 95% CI, -3.12, -0.46; P = 0.009), homeostasis model of assessment-insulin resistance (HOMA-IR) (β -0.47; 95% CI, -0.80, -0.13; P = 0.007), total- (β -13.16 mg/dL; 95% CI, -25.14, -1.17; P = 0.03) and LDL- (β -10.44 mg/dL; 95% CI, -20.55, -0.34; P = 0.04) compared with the placebo. '

Here is a link to the 50 mg/day study :

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8545577/

In the above study they found that melatonin at the dosage used, returned oxidative stress levels similarly to healthy control levels.

Here is a quote from the study :

' Taken together, our data showed that melatonin supplementation recovers mitochondrial function and diminishes oxidative stress. '

To get a better idea of exactly how much melatonin reduced oxidative stress markers in the study participants, take a look at "Figure 1". Here you can see how close melatonin got to control levels :

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8545577/figure/fig1/

The importance of lowering oxidative stress markers in IPF is outlined in detail in this article :

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphar.2021.794997/full#:~:text=1.2 Oxidative Stress in Idiopathic, et al., 2018b).

Here is an important quote from the article :

' Oxidative stress arises as a result of an imbalance between reactive oxygen species (ROS) and reactive nitrogen species (RNS) production and antioxidant defence that leads to cellular dysfunction and tissue damage (Hosseinzadeh et al., 2018b). '

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Art

Hi Art - do you know the recommend dose of melatonin for pulmonary fibrosis?

Thanks!

Honestly, I just go by how I feel, what the labels tell me I can take, but I did it religiously for about the first 6 -12 months. I've read that some people feel better taking 40,000 units rather than the 120,000.

I did neglect to mention that I also take magnesium and vitamin d daily. Sometimes magnesium citrate, and sometimes a brand that says that it's high absorption magnesium, 100% chelated.

I never took lungs formulas or other systemic enzymes, like I read that others do when I was researching about it, and I personally would avoid taking anything with nattokinese, because it doesn't know when to stop lysing.

Natalia,

I only went to the pulmonary doctor once, so I've never been on any conventional meds, and I've managed to avoid any more MRI's and CT scans, since the initial ones. I do take a B/P med, and I am prescribed two inhalers, which I keep in case I feel short of breath at all, but I rarely need them.

My last visit to the doctor she said my lungs sounded clear, and that oxygen thing they put on your finger said 98%. Don't know how accurate that is though.

I went through something about a month ago, a lot of coughing, had to get some mucolyxir to get that thick and sticky mucus out, but I'm back to "normal" now.

I read here on Earth Clinic several years ago, that asthma can be triggered somehow by acid reflux, and I do suspect that has a lot to do with some of my issues, so I try to eat several hours prior to bed.

But my go-to supplements for the fibrosis are serrapeptase, and I have added nattokinase, but in the past that has caused nose-bleeds for me, so I am careful with that, and Rejuvenzyme, which seems to have just about all of the ingredients in one of the items in the package that was out of my budget. Ideally, I'd take the serrapetase and revenzyme three times a day, but that has never happened, just because I don't think about it. And then I do take the NAC with vitamin C also. But I prefer mucolyxir to NAC for mucus.

I'd like to know what caused the fibrosis, but I'm just not curious enough to go for a biopsy and have three holes in my lung from chest tubes. Curiosity killed the cat, so they say :) Perhaps if I get to the point where I can't breath I'll change my tune.

With a number of cases of Pulmonary Fibrosis is the presence of mycoplasma infection, which has been my nemesis for many yrs. Just suggesting the possibility as mycoplasma prevents lung tissue regeneration. My theory is the cholesterol needed for repair is saturated or surrounded by the myco as it's a favorite fuel source. In your case, the laser may be killing mycoplasma. Certainly worth investigating.

I have recently had very good results killing the myco with first Magnet therapy, then Zapping, then Nebulized Colloidal Silver.

Peroxide scares me. I have sclera. and have the beginning of fibrosis in the lungs. Do people just breath this in in a vaporizer? I have serrapeptase but only took it once a day will up my dose and do 2x. The medical field is making so much $ treating this stuff like cancer there will not be a cure.

Do you experience stomach issues? I'm hesitant because too many ppl have stomach upset from serrapeptase. Also, do you take nattokinase, another enzyme? I read that it too, helps break down fibrosis but no one talks about it. I believe that one does not have the bad side effects.

Thank you.

Dear Octavio,

I am so sorry about your father's suffering. And it is hard to watch our parents suffer. He is blessed to have you wanting to help him!

Apple Cider Vinegar is a good thing to try. Safe and inexpensive. Try to find raw and unpastuerized. Start him on 1 teapsoon per day in a glass of water. The next week, try 2 teaspoons per day. The next week, try 3 teaspoons per day. Times of day aren't critical--one glass in the morning and one in the evening. I just sip on my vinegar water throughout the day.

I am hoping someone else knows about dosing the Aloe, I don't have much experience with that.

Do some research on this site about Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation therapy. It helps get oxygen to the lungs and helps with healing. We have used this for my asthmatic daughter with success.

I also bought an essential oil nebulizer for my daughter with an essential oil blend called "Lung Healing. " It has helped her a lot. I highly recommend it, though a diffuser is not cheap.

I get the oil blend here:

http://heritageessentialoils.com/lung-healing.php

If you have a way to make him fresh carrot juice, that would be really good for him.

Please keep us posted on how things work for him.

~Mama to Many~

Hi everybody. I have been diagnosed early stage IPF 1 year back on ct scan basis and shortness of breath. One dr is advising steroid and immunosuppressor while another doctor proposing pirfenidone. I know both of them have serious side effects. I am 58 years old, dentist. Could somebody please advise. I am happy to learn from this forum that there exists also natural remedies:enzymes, H2O2, oil pulling etc. I dont know where to start. please help thanks.-Fred

Hi Bala - The two medications referenced by the OP can be found here - - https://www.healthconcerns.com/practitioner-item/8/39/Clear_Air.html - https://www.pureformulas.com/cordyceps-ps-50-tablets-by-health-concerns.html

Give my best to your dad - you guys will be fine. :) Best, Jay

The above drop schedule is for 35% into distilled water or juice. A full glass of water (4 to 8 oz.) is recommended. So it would be 3 drops (35%) into glass of water or juice, on empty stomach 3 times a day... etc... as the schedule indicates. So at this dilution it should be well under 3%, to start off with anyway.

If you need to dilute it, recommendations are 1 part h202 to 11 parts distilled water. This will make 3%.

35% can cause discomfort if gotten on skin, so use caution. It will whiten the skin and cause sharp nerve pain, which can be lessened by running under cold water. It usually doesn't last very long.

35% taken orally straight can cause a trip to the doctor, so don't do it. :)

Oh, and I'm not an expert, just relaying what I know from what I've read and experienced.

Verbena,

Gallium nitrate is expensive and hard to find. If that doesn't work out for you, you might be interested in the following for IPF/PF :

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/five-supplements-for-pulmonary-fibrosis.html

Art

Thanks for sharing great story. I have one question about the concentration of hydrogen peroxide that you used. 1.5 - 3 % seems very high. Mercola recommends about 0.1 %, while Dr. Brownstien recommends about 0.04% diluted in saline. What is the reference for using such a high concentration.

I forgot to mention that it may also be worthwhile to know the side effects of Ofev before you use it :

https://www.drugs.com/ofev.html#side-effects

Now compare those to the side effects of Melatonin and NAC.

https://www.drugs.com/mcf/melatonin-side-effects-what-are-the-risks

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/327219#risks

Art

T,

I forgot to include the last study which gives you a very good idea of why the well established mitochondrial protective effects of melatonin are important :

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5807592/#:~:text=Idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis fibroblasts have, and increased rate of senescence.

Here is a relevant quote from the study :

Idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis fibroblasts have increased mtDNA damage, mitochondrial dysfunction, impaired mitochondrial biogenesis, and increased rate of senescence. '

The following article goes into significant detail to describe the mitochondrial protective effects of melatonin :

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28864909/

A relevant quote :

' Thus, melatonin is not only taken up by mitochondria but these organelles, in addition to many other functions, also probably produce melatonin as well. Melatonin's high concentrations and multiple actions as an antioxidant provide potent antioxidant protection to these organelles which are exposed to abundant free radicals.

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Art

Hi Teena. Could you tell me the ratio of the oregano oil with carrier oil that you use? I have IPD and would like to start this regimen ASAP. Thank you for your help.

My friend has idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis. He noted that many of the patients at the clinic he goes to, many WWII pilots or crew, were exposed to fine oil particles in the cockpit during missions--everything was covered in oil when they would get back. He feels this is the cause of his disease.

HI Stephanie,

yes the laser is still working for me. Just had another pulmonary function test and it had improved yet again! I'm thrilled with my progress.

Dr Andy Hall

I would like to update my progress. Since my post on 8/10/16, I have had two more pulmonary function tests that have again improved. No additional fibrous tissue on CT. A gentleman named Garry from Australia has tried laser therapy and his pulmonologist was also shocked to see his pulmonary function tests improve. Please consider this therapy if you suffer from IPF and let me know how you respond. I will be happy to help you find a doctor with an appropriate laser.

Dr Andy Hall

Some of my family has gout, so we're quite familiar with medications and alternatives. So when my father with pulmonary fibrosis was given a prescription for a "gout medicine", we were all confused - did Daddy get gout older than other family members? After asking a few of his hospice nurses, one finally knew the actual reason: Protein breaking down produces purines, and lung tissues break down more quickly with advanced pulmonary fibrosis, therefore producing more purines. AND since purines aggravate pulmonary fibrosis, it becomes a snowball/avalanche, so they've found that using gout medications helps slow the avalanche of purines.

Back to gout and alternative treatments. Although vinegar is an acid, it actually alkalizes the body. So when gout sufferers alkalize their body, their blood can hold more uric acid in the blood (as a liquid), so the uric acid crystals in their joints and organs (lungs in Daddy's case) disolve into their blood better. If they're able to clear this liquid uric acid via their kidneys, yay keep drinking vinegar. But not all gout sufferers can clear uric acid as efficiently as others - even if disolved in their blood.

Supposedly anthocyanins helps to clear disolved uric acid from the body. Anthocyanins come from darkly colored foods like blackberries, blueberries, sour cherries, black eggplant skins, turtle bean broth (not the beans, just the liquid after cooking).

So I'm guessing that using both vinegar and dark foods together might help my brother who has gout, but also my father who now has uric acid issues from his pulmonary fibrosis. I'm thinking a drink with mashed blackberries or blueberries in water, with a little apple cider vinegar, and a bit of stevia as needed would make a tasty, medicinal drink.

Thank you for listing other nutraceuticals and supplements - I went through your page and found most on Amazon, so I can send Daddy a package thru them - He loves natural cures (he lives very remotely, so Amazon is nice, since we can't take a plane or bus to visit him, and I'd like to send him the supplements/nutraceuticals before I can arrange to make the trip with our older vehicle).

Fred, you might want to start with a spritz of h2o2 in a humidifier at night.

Thank you so much for your post. I've recently been diagnosis with pulmonary fibrosis and was first with pneumonia, probably common in the first stages but after 2 months is when I get a diagnosis. Hypersensitive pneumonitis is another diagnosis brought on by using a biologic called Entyvio for bowel disease. The Entyvio cleared up my colitis but caused not only this but extreme and severe arthritic pain. I've been on prednisone for a good month and am now tapered down to 30mg. and will be on for several more weeks. I have made a lot of improvements but have a ways to go. BTW, the pred cleared my arthritis up on the 2nd day! I'm not taking Chinese herbs, back on calcium because of side effects from the pred as well as other herbs. If my problem doesn't get better in 2 months then my pulmonologist will do a lung scope and biopsy for a more true dx. I'm remaining optimistic, accept that I'm on prednisone and it's risks. I just discovered on another website that pulmonary fibrosis is also an autoimmune disease so that goes with the colitis, psoriasis, psoriatic arthritis, and EBV.

Respected sir,

as you told, I agree . I trust natural herbs can cure ipf. my father has affected with ipf for 2 years more. we tried with some indian medicined . but its not work.when he take siddha herbals it increases the troubles. I saw your post. you told some chinese herbals.can you tell me how to buy this chinese medicine. can you tell in detail. if you do this help I cant forget you.. bcoz I love my father ..i like to save him ..he s only 59 years old

I have seen three letters from Jimmy of Dallas, Texas who has informed that he has been cured from his pulmonary fibrosis by taking 35% food grade H2O2 in his two letters, at the same time he has written in one of his letter dated 05. 17. 2008 that he has been cured through oil-pulling. Are all these 3 letters written by the same person? In case oil-pulling method, how long Jimmy had been suffering from the disease and how long it took to him for complete healing? Is there any other testimonials on the success of oil pulling method for treating pulmonary fibrosis. Kindly inform. Thanks.

To Tonja via Deirdre,

Although I have been on Neprinol for a matter of weeks I have seen some very positive improvement in my condition (IPF) and also some bonus changes unconnected to IPF.

In the matter of IPF I was having great difficultywalking any real distance 200/300 yards,especially on flat amd hilly ground and light activity in the garden (digging,weeding and moving the wheel barrow around with light loads) and 15 minutes or so would find me very breathless.Whereas, now I can work for at least 40minutes with the mower/chopping with the axe/digging with the mattoch etc and whilst I will then be quite puffef out my recovery time only takes about 7/10 minutes.

As for the "bonuses" -these can be seen in the slow dissappearence of a scar on my upper lip that has been there for many many years (I am 82 ) ,my right wrist which was fractured badly some decades ago and only had about 75% rotational movement is now as mobile as my other wrist, also I am noticing a vast improvement in my ability while driving my car,to turn and twist my neck and head to look left and right over either shoulder to check for traffic.Prior to this my flexibility in this area was quite restricted due to R/A,This brings me to another bonus ie; I no longer take anti-steroidal drugs for R/A and have no real pain in my feet and hands.

I hope my experience gives you some insight into what course of action you should take for your father,keeping in mind that all meds do not work for everyone in an identical way,but I do feel that ,as the old saying goes "If it wont help, it wont hurt".It certainly is helping me.I am looking forward to my next chest x-ray to see if there has been any significant improvement in my lung condition(about 3 months time).

Potential therapy for Fibrosis

Has anyone heard/tried Gallium Nitrate for pulmonary fibrosis?

This is just amazing. Thank you for sharing. Will have my mum try this-she has a fibrostic lung

Try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lblBxPU7vo&t=592s. This is Dr. McCullough's recipe as well, I believe.

Can you cite any actual scientific evidence of this claim? I have never had an issue with store-bought 3% hydrogen peroxide nor seen any evidence, whatsoever, to support what are, essentially, rumors about its purity but this claim just keeps going and going.

Tan,

Amazon made a decision to stop carrying NAC awhile back, but it is readily available from multiple supplement suppliers so don't waste your time looking for NAC on Amazon. Here is a link to one supplier out of many that carries many different brands of NAC :

https://www.vitacost.com/productsearch.aspx?t=NAC&mp=1

I do not have a brand to recommend.

Art

Pier L.

In the two studies I linked to for melatonin in people, one study used 10 mg/night and the other study used 25 mg at noon and 25 mg before bed for a total of 50 mg/day.

I know several people who use more than that dose, including myself. I use 132 mg of melatonin each night. I don't recommend that dose to anybody, that's just what I currently use after using 120 mg/night for one year and around 90 mg/night for one year. I intend to complete a year at 132 mg/night and likely increase further in my effort to try and get all of the multitudes of health effects from melatonin that I possibly can. I have written about many of these benefits on EC.

In the following study, they used 300 mg/day in the form of a suppository in ALS patients for up to 2 years. This is very significant because suppository melatonin is thought to have significantly higher bioavailability than oral melatonin, which has poor bioavailability estimated at 3 to 15% of total dose consumed, so the actual dose compared to oral dosing could potentially be significantly higher :

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17014688/

You may also be interested in my newest article about PF/IPF :

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/five-supplements-for-pulmonary-fibrosis.html

Art

Bear,

Please look into melatonin and NAC for IPF. Check out these research studies for melatonin:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30445883/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5979295/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29567077/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27878256/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26122220/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16313495/

And for NAC:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=N+acetyl+Cysteine+idiopathic+pulmonary+fibrosis&size=20

Good luck!

Art

Hello. I am wondering if anyone might know of anything to help my grandfather whom is 77 years old and suffers from Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension as well as from Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis. For the IPF, we have been doing the Hydrogen Peroxide inhalation method, along with colloidal silver, several different supplements, (such as seaweed, vitamin C, collagen, etc. to name a few) along with his prescription medications that are prescribed to him by his lung doctor, and of course he is also following these treatments with a healthy organic food diet along with exercise. Seems to be working well for him as far as treating the IPF.

My reason for this post is to ask if anyone is aware of anything we could be doing to treat the PAH....As it seems to be the more threatening or problematic of the two diseases. His heart doctor has suggested he use Sildenafil, however it's been about a year now that we've been waiting on the doctors and insurance to get everything approved for him so that he can finally get this medication, and still don't have the authorization yet. PLEASE HELP!! My grandfather is a wonderful man and we need help to fight this. We are about four years post diagnosis and times ticking. I have faith that someone somewhere might know something, anything, that can help with fighting and treating this PAH.

Thank you. God bless.

You can try bromelain 1 or 2 pills of 2400 gdu on an empty stomach then wait an hour to eat. Ted from Bangkok says glycine helps makes it more potent in some way. The reason the serrapeptase made you vomit is because the companies engineer it from bacteria. I tried it years back and got dog sick. Didnt know why, until out of curisosity years later read reviews on amazon for it where people reported the same. However bromelain never has made me sick and I took that for months. Hope this helps someone.

I have used and taught about Class IV lasers for 30 years. The Aura PTL II from Biolight Technologies has a wonderful home laser with preprogrammed treatments. They will custom build the laser with the programs you need.

https://www.biolighttechnologies.com/

Dear Aubrey,

Please post the contact for the Doctor who works with HP. I was recently diagnosed with Pulmonary TB through lung x-ray but I have faith it will clear. My daughter is also expelling thick mucus esp from 03:00 AM. She is not coughing. Her x-ray was clear. We have no family history of this.

Thanks in advance.

Angel