Natural Remedies to Treat Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis (IPF)

| Modified on Jan 21, 2023
Quercetin, Ivermectin, Nutritional Yeast
Posted by Tom (Tucson, AZ) on 01/10/2023 55 posts
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Quercetin dihydrate powder to protect and tone the lungs and sinuses. I have taken up to a level measuring teaspoon which is about 2 grams per day. Now I just take a quarter level teaspoon per day, which is about 250 mg.

Quercetin gives good energy. Taking quercetin restored my lungs and sinuses from just average, to good condition in 2016.

Then in 2021, only 1.87% ivermectin horse paste, apple flavored, restored my lungs from the Covid situation. I had to intentionally cough up lung mucous for about 12 days in addition to taking the ivermectin, to finally get my lungs clear.

I tried stopping taking quercetin twice in 2016, but I had so much less energy and less healthy sinuses, that I had to make quercetin a permanent supplement of mine.

For thinning and liquefying lung and sinus mucous, I take 1/2 slightly rounded measuring teaspoon per day of the 14 herb seasoning, Dash Table Blend from Walmart in the spice aisle in the 6.75 oz bottle.

Subtly increasing lung volume and blood oxygen can happen by eating high-RNA supplements like nutritional yeast (1/8 level cup before lunch) or supplements like marine phytoplankton (1/2 slightly rounded measuring teaspoon or more per day). I prefer taking the yeast before lunch because I assume it takes extra oxygen for the body to process lunch.

To me, the lungs can be as difficult to maintain as the digestive tract is to have functioning properly.


Serrapeptase and NAC
Posted by Sam (MIami) on 01/09/2023

I don't have stomach problems taking it.


Serrapeptase
Posted by Pier (Illinois) on 01/08/2023

Do you feel that bromelain is as effective as serrapeptase? I read that it breaks down scar tissue too, but everyone only talks about serrapeptase. Odd, since there is a chance of stomach distress with the latter.


Serrapeptase and NAC
Posted by Verbena (Illinois) on 01/08/2023
4 out of 5 stars

So many people here are talking about serrapeptase. Is anyone having stomach problems from it? That is my hesitation. Thank you!


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Pier Luigi (Illinois) on 01/07/2023

Can you say what herbs you took? Or can anyone guess? This post was written in 2016. Thanks.


NAC
Posted by Pier (Illinois) on 01/07/2023

Hello, did the hydrogen peroxide IV work? Did you see any benefits? Thank you!


Laser Therapy
Posted by Verbena (IL) on 01/07/2023

Dr. Hall, thank you for your information. My dad is currently getting laser therapy with a class 4 laser ("robot" type). The doctor said that the protocol he found states it's sufficient only to do the back. He does it for a half hour. Maybe 15 mins x side. Is this okay? He, too, is a chiropractor and seems very proactive. Thank you.


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Pier (Illinois) on 01/07/2023

Do you experience stomach issues? I'm hesitant because too many ppl have stomach upset from serrapeptase. Also, do you take nattokinase, another enzyme? I read that it too, helps break down fibrosis but no one talks about it. I believe that one does not have the bad side effects.

Thank you.


Laser Therapy
Posted by Richard (Texas) on 12/13/2022

I have used and taught about Class IV lasers for 30 years. The Aura PTL II from Biolight Technologies has a wonderful home laser with preprogrammed treatments. They will custom build the laser with the programs you need.

https://www.biolighttechnologies.com/


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by JD (Australia) on 12/12/2022

Omef is a terrible drug with horrific side effects.

My dad has had it for over 3-5 years now. Lost so much weight, no appetite etc. Had a heart attack a few weeks ago from it. Another side effect. Has not taken it for several weeks now and has got his appetite back and colour in his skin. Figuring out another natural remedy as im sure theres plenty out there. WOULDN'T IHALLING PURE OXYGEN DO THE TRICK, CONSIDERING the lungs can start to heal from ovygen getting into the blood stream???? These drugs they have designed for this illness aren't a cure only trying to stop the immune system from creating scarring on the lungs. Doesn't seem to be working in year 4-5 of the condition. I recommend stem cell therapy but I'm not sure a doctor studying medicine wont like that word. (stem cell therapy)


Melatonin
Posted by Art (California) on 08/23/2022 1508 posts

T,

I forgot to include the last study which gives you a very good idea of why the well established mitochondrial protective effects of melatonin are important :

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5807592/#:~:text=Idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis fibroblasts have, and increased rate of senescence.

Here is a relevant quote from the study :

Idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis fibroblasts have increased mtDNA damage, mitochondrial dysfunction, impaired mitochondrial biogenesis, and increased rate of senescence. '

The following article goes into significant detail to describe the mitochondrial protective effects of melatonin :

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28864909/

A relevant quote :

' Thus, melatonin is not only taken up by mitochondria but these organelles, in addition to many other functions, also probably produce melatonin as well. Melatonin's high concentrations and multiple actions as an antioxidant provide potent antioxidant protection to these organelles which are exposed to abundant free radicals.

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Art


Melatonin
Posted by Art (California) on 08/23/2022 1508 posts

T,

In the following review they describe the use of NAC for IPF at 600 mg three times per day in divided doses for a total of 1800 mg/day.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6566037/#:~:text=NAC was orally administered in, and pirfenidone (two studies).

Here is a relevant quote from the review :

' The most commonly used oral dose [76.19% (16/21)] was 600 mg three times a day (1, 800 mg per day). Combined therapy frequently included corticosteroids (13 studies) and pirfenidone (two studies). '

Regarding the use of melatonin for IPF, no dosing schedule has yet been established. I can't give a dosage recommendation since I am not a doctor, but I can mention studies where melatonin was used for Parkinson's disease at 10 mg/day and 50 mg/day to good effect in the study participants. Here is a link to the 10 mg study :

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0303846720302213?via=ihub

Here is an important quote from the study :

' Compared with the placebo, melatonin supplementation resulted in a significant reduction in serum high sensitivity C-reactive protein (hs-CRP) (β -0.94 mg/L; 95% CI, -1.55, -0.32; P = 0.003) and a significant elevation in plasma total antioxidant capacity (TAC) (β 108.09 mmol/L; 95% CI, 78.21, 137.97; P < 0.001) and total glutathione (GSH) levels (β 77.08 μmol/L; 95% CI, 44.29, 109.86; P < 0.001). Additionally, consuming melatonin significantly decreased serum insulin levels (β -1.79 μIU/mL; 95% CI, -3.12, -0.46; P = 0.009), homeostasis model of assessment-insulin resistance (HOMA-IR) (β -0.47; 95% CI, -0.80, -0.13; P = 0.007), total- (β -13.16 mg/dL; 95% CI, -25.14, -1.17; P = 0.03) and LDL- (β -10.44 mg/dL; 95% CI, -20.55, -0.34; P = 0.04) compared with the placebo. '

Here is a link to the 50 mg/day study :

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8545577/

In the above study they found that melatonin at the dosage used, returned oxidative stress levels similarly to healthy control levels.

Here is a quote from the study :

' Taken together, our data showed that melatonin supplementation recovers mitochondrial function and diminishes oxidative stress. '

To get a better idea of exactly how much melatonin reduced oxidative stress markers in the study participants, take a look at "Figure 1". Here you can see how close melatonin got to control levels :

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8545577/figure/fig1/

The importance of lowering oxidative stress markers in IPF is outlined in detail in this article :

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphar.2021.794997/full#:~:text=1.2 Oxidative Stress in Idiopathic, et al., 2018b).

Here is an important quote from the article :

' Oxidative stress arises as a result of an imbalance between reactive oxygen species (ROS) and reactive nitrogen species (RNS) production and antioxidant defence that leads to cellular dysfunction and tissue damage (Hosseinzadeh et al., 2018b). '

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Art


Melatonin
Posted by T (Mississippi) on 08/23/2022

Art,

What are the recommended dosages of melatonin and NAC for treating IPF?

Thanks,

T


Laser Therapy
Posted by Yvonne (Maryland) on 08/11/2022

Do you know of any treatment centers on the East Coast (MD, DC, VA, PA area)? thanks.


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Tan (MS) on 07/27/2022

GREAT! Thank you.


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Art (California) on 07/26/2022 1508 posts

Tan,

Amazon made a decision to stop carrying NAC awhile back, but it is readily available from multiple supplement suppliers so don't waste your time looking for NAC on Amazon. Here is a link to one supplier out of many that carries many different brands of NAC :

https://www.vitacost.com/productsearch.aspx?t=NAC&mp=1

I do not have a brand to recommend.

Art


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Tan (MS) on 07/26/2022

Art,

Is there a particular brand of NAC that is best? Amazon has a few different versions but it seems hard to find just regular NAC.

Thanks in advance!

Tan


Chinese Herbs
Posted by Jay (Sydney) on 07/25/2022

Hi Bala - The two medications referenced by the OP can be found here - - https://www.healthconcerns.com/practitioner-item/8/39/Clear_Air.html - https://www.pureformulas.com/cordyceps-ps-50-tablets-by-health-concerns.html

Give my best to your dad - you guys will be fine. :) Best, Jay


Serrapeptase and NAC
Posted by Aurora (London) on 07/10/2022

Hi,

How did you get on with this combination? Is it essential to have vitamin C with the Serrapeptase and NAC? Is Nattokinase as good as Serrapeptase? Many thanks


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Larry (Arizona) on 04/06/2022

I also have IPF, for 4 years now. They put me on OFEV . I took it for a couple of years but I just got tired of all the side effects. As to the cost, $9000.00 a month but I paid nothing. Have your Doctor contact the company that makes it and they will give you a grant for the cost.. Good Luck.


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Art (California) on 04/05/2022 1508 posts

Simone,

Unfortunately, melatonin is only at the animal stage of testing, so a human dose has not yet been established for Pulmonary Fibrosis. Dr. Neel is effectively using melatonin at 1 mg per kilogram of body weight in over 2000 of his Covid-19 patients. Dr. Shallenberger gives all of his patients 180 mg/day and for his stage 4 cancer patients he gives over 300 mg/day. I take 120 mg+ per night myself. If you would like to contact him to see if he has treated PF patients with melatonin, his number is (775) 884 - 3990.

Not everyone can tolerate melatonin every day so for those who plan to test it, working your way up slowly to the desired dose is a good idea. If a person does not tolerate oral melatonin, they can naturally increase their melatonin levels significantly by exposing themselves to the earlier morning sun. When melatonin is increased naturally in the body, it does not have side effects other than improved health.

On the other hand, NAC has moved past animal studies to human studies in people with Pulmonary Fibrosis to good effect and the dose that has been used is 600 mg given three times per day for a total of 1800 mg/day.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6566037/

Another consideration is bringing your vitamin D level well up into the reference range of 30 ~ 100 ng/ml.

This study suggests that vitamin d may have positive effects on Pulmonary Fibrosis and has the relevance to potentially have predictive value. Many people are insufficient or deficient in their vitamin D levels.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30659895/

Lastly, Red Light Therapy has shown some benefit in lung protective effects as discussed in the following article, but importantly, while you are getting morning sun exposure to naturally increase your melatonin levels, you can also get the full spectrum of red light that the sun radiates upon the earth including the infrared range of red light which is not visible to the human eye.

https://awakenforwellness.com/red-light-therapys-impact-on-your-respiratory-health-its-potential-healing-in-covid-19-symptoms/

Importantly, red light from the sun is stronger than many units sold online and it is free for the taking from earlier morning sunlight and later afternoon sunlight which will also help to limit UV light exposure that is stronger at mid-day.

Art


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Simone (New Hampshire) on 04/05/2022

Hi Art - do you know the recommend dose of melatonin for pulmonary fibrosis?

Thanks!


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by larry von (california) on 02/20/2022

Like to know your status, Jimmy, hopefully you are still with us.


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Art (California) on 02/17/2022 1508 posts

I forgot to mention that it may also be worthwhile to know the side effects of Ofev before you use it :

https://www.drugs.com/ofev.html#side-effects

Now compare those to the side effects of Melatonin and NAC.

https://www.drugs.com/mcf/melatonin-side-effects-what-are-the-risks

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/327219#risks

Art


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Art (California) on 02/17/2022 1508 posts

If you are looking for alternative remedies for Pulmonary Fibrosis, it will be worthwhile to look into Melatonin :

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=melatonin+pulmonary+fibrosis&sort=date&size=20

And N Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) :

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=N+Acetyl+Cysteine+pulmonary+fibrosis&sort=date&size=20

Both have very good safety profiles with melatonin having the better safety profile and both are inexpensive and readily available. Good luck!

Art


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Pauline (California, USA) on 02/17/2022

My husband was just diagnosed with Pulmonary Fibrosis, although I hear he is at beginning stage. Just out of the hospital a few days ago and we are doing our first follow up with our Pulmonary doctor tomorrow. He has talked about Ofav, however, here in the states it's outrageously expensive, $2000-$5000 for 60 tablets. How in the world can you afford it? I see you are out of the country. What is your cost where you are. Hope you will respond.

Pauline


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Margie (Detroit, MI) on 02/07/2022

Hi Teena. Could you tell me the ratio of the oregano oil with carrier oil that you use? I have IPD and would like to start this regimen ASAP. Thank you for your help.


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Maggie (Detroit, MI) on 02/01/2022

Can someone please reply about how they use the hydrogen peroxide similar to Dick's post from 2013? I really would appreciate the information. Thank you.


Proning (Laying on Stomach)
Posted by Annie (USA) on 08/30/2021
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In reply to Anita from Maryland (2018) in the Oil Pulling Thread, who wrote:

"My husband has Pulmonary Fibrosis and I am looking for remedies to help him. He can no longer sit up for more than a minute. But laying in bed on his back is how he gets the best oxygen. He also suffers from anxiety and depression. He has a lot of back pain from a fall in 3 years ago. On his back his oxygen level is any where from 86 to 91% at level 2-1/2 to 3. When he panics the level goes down and we have to turn the concentrator up to 5. I am looking for any help to keep him safe and alive. Sincerely, Anita"

I was on oxygen recently and the doctors told me about proning. You lay on your stomach and the front of your lungs do not have to work so hard since your body is using the back of your lungs. My oxygen levels would go from 89 to 93 in under a minute (on oxygen ) It might work better since I had pneumonia. However the doctors at the hospital all day to prone for hours in the icu.

Also, check and see if his breathing gets worse after certain medications or food..I get chest pain right after I take some medications for pain and processed food ...I'm serious. I will pray for you all that you find relief.


Serrapeptase
Posted by Phillip (IL) on 02/22/2021

You can try bromelain 1 or 2 pills of 2400 gdu on an empty stomach then wait an hour to eat. Ted from Bangkok says glycine helps makes it more potent in some way. The reason the serrapeptase made you vomit is because the companies engineer it from bacteria. I tried it years back and got dog sick. Didnt know why, until out of curisosity years later read reviews on amazon for it where people reported the same. However bromelain never has made me sick and I took that for months. Hope this helps someone.


Laser Therapy
Posted by Andrew Hall (Sonora, CA) on 02/06/2019
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It has been over a year since I last posted on this site.

I am still doing amazingly well. Blood oxygenation varies between 97-99 and I was diagnosed nearly 4 and 1/2 years ago. I have found doctors for a lot of IPF patients. They report back to me that their oxygenation is better and there are no reports of additional fibrous tissue on subsequent CT scans. Pretty darned remarkable! I have not heard back from anyone that didn't get better in at least some way. Some of them, the results have been dramatic, some of them the results were more subtle but at least there was some improvement in one way or another.

Due to the numbers of IPF patients that have stayed in contact, and all the consistent positive changes we have started a study. If interested in the study go to ipflaserstudy.com and check it out. Make no mistake, I nor anyone else claims this to be a cure, because the laser treatment does not appear to remove the fibrous tissue on subsequent CT scans. However, it does appear to arrest the progression of the disease. I would also suggest to IPF patients to join the forum for IPF patients.

Go to PulmonaryFibrosisNews.com It is a forum with caring, loving and supportive people and can be very helpful to you. If you would like to find a laser provider near you go to Klaserusa.com. At the top of the page click on Medical Patient. Then on the far right at the top of the page click on Find a Medical Provider. God Bless everyone dealing with this terrible disease.

Just know there is hope.....

Dr Hall


Melatonin
Posted by Art (California) on 02/09/2021 1508 posts
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I didn't mention it in the new COPD post on EC, but while melatonin is useful for COPD, it is also useful for Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis (IPF)! Here is a link to the new COPD article :

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/melatonin-for-copd.html

Here are links to studies of melatonin and IPF :

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29567077/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30445883/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26122220/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16313495/

Melatonin is not a one trick pony and has shown efficacy in multiple health issues, yet doctors seem to mainly prescribe it as a sleep aid! If melatonin could become a patented prescription drug, it would be a blockbuster drug for what ever drug company held such a patent!

Art

Melatonin and NAC

Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Lawrennce (Uk) on 12/05/2018

Hi, my consultant gave me 10 months to live in 2015 and I am still working. I found a company in US who supplies Trebinase and Serrapeptase which has given me 3 extra years and it works for me. I hope this helps.


Multiple Remedies
Posted by Teena (Melbourne, Australia) on 10/30/2018 235 posts

Some possible options, Gingko baloba, astragalus, vitamin E, coq10, see further suggestions and consider all interactions with meds.

Https://europepmc.org/articles/pmc6055327

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6055327/

https://www.epainassist.com/amp/chest-pain/lungs/how-to-treat-pulmonary-hypertension-naturally

Hawthorn is readily known for its heart health properties. More heart health boosters, you will see some are suggested for heart and lung support. http://greenpathherbschool.com/herbs-for-the-heart/

Keep researching, be aware of contraindications, you might also like to consult with Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM). Best to you


Multiple Remedies
Posted by Elisabeth G. (Georgia ) on 10/27/2018 1 posts
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Hello. I am wondering if anyone might know of anything to help my grandfather whom is 77 years old and suffers from Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension as well as from Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis. For the IPF, we have been doing the Hydrogen Peroxide inhalation method, along with colloidal silver, several different supplements, (such as seaweed, vitamin C, collagen, etc. to name a few) along with his prescription medications that are prescribed to him by his lung doctor, and of course he is also following these treatments with a healthy organic food diet along with exercise. Seems to be working well for him as far as treating the IPF.

My reason for this post is to ask if anyone is aware of anything we could be doing to treat the PAH....As it seems to be the more threatening or problematic of the two diseases. His heart doctor has suggested he use Sildenafil, however it's been about a year now that we've been waiting on the doctors and insurance to get everything approved for him so that he can finally get this medication, and still don't have the authorization yet. PLEASE HELP!! My grandfather is a wonderful man and we need help to fight this. We are about four years post diagnosis and times ticking. I have faith that someone somewhere might know something, anything, that can help with fighting and treating this PAH.

Thank you. God bless.

Chinese Herbs
Posted by Bala (India) on 09/26/2018

Respected sir,

as you told, I agree . I trust natural herbs can cure ipf. my father has affected with ipf for 2 years more. we tried with some indian medicined . but its not work.when he take siddha herbals it increases the troubles. I saw your post. you told some chinese herbals.can you tell me how to buy this chinese medicine. can you tell in detail. if you do this help I cant forget you.. bcoz I love my father ..i like to save him ..he s only 59 years old


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Charles (El Cajon, California) on 06/14/2018

Re: Gout medicine, after many painful days and nights suffering with gout, I mentioned it to my kidney doctor who also counsels me regarding all of my meds as I have only one functioning kidney and that at just 37 %. That being said he put me onto Alpurinol @ 100 mgs to start. If it continues to be problematic he would increase the dosage. It has worked for over 8 months without any flare ups. You may need to get a prescription from a Dr. as it is not over the counter here I the U.S. U realize your message is 3 years old and I hope your Husband is well as I myself am fighting pulmonary fibrosis. I am 72 and trying to last to see my 10 yr old start highschool. I'm hoping to see his graduation as well. God Bless and good hunting...


Serrapeptase
Posted by Maureen (Washington) on 06/03/2018
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Serrapeptase for IPF:

Tried the serrapeptase at the 240,000 units twice a day....after ten days developed horrid vomiting. Thinking of trying it at 40,000 units twice a day for about ten days..if tolerated, then keep upping the dose. THOUGHTS?

Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Palma (Italy) on 05/29/2018

Hi Michele,, my dad has Fibrosis pulmonary too, and is taking Esbriet since a year ago. Didn't have any side effect by the exposure to the sun, but I really would like to try different cure, cause is the only way that we haven't tried..and as we know there is not a medical cure that stops this disease. Can u please tell me more about the vinegar and the other things you're trying...are u following also a diet? Waiting for your response,, thank you!


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Teena (Melbourne, Australia) on 05/16/2018 235 posts

Michele, I believe you are on the right track by adding the NAC, this has mucous thinning properties and is anti inflammatory, among many other benefits. Please research the benefits of serratapeptase enzyme, castor oil packs combined with massage, mullein tea, iodine, essiac tea, garlic. Topically each night you might try a salve of olive or coconut oil, you can thicken with Shea or cocoa butter, but not necessary, add anti fungal, anti microbial essential oils like cinnamon, eucalyptus, tea tree, clove, nutmeg, lemon, but in my practised opinion, oregano oil is the essential and magic ingredient. Apply front and back of the chest should feel warmth penetrating chest. This greatly helped family member also put eo's in vaporiser at night with water in closed room. I am since of the opinion the reason the oregano oil helps the lungs is because it kills the mycoplasma thought to cause the condition. Combined with your NAC working on the biofilm and mucous (hiding place) I would expect even better results. For my family member she also (reluctantly) ate raw garlic clove morning and night, maybe you can try extract or pills, and added turmeric, cayenne, clove 1 tsp ea to her tea. And had significant improvement in a week. Please note oregano oil is very powerful and is usually sold 25% diluted, and I have no experience with contraindications of your stated meds, please research. Best to you.


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Michele (Florida) on 05/15/2018

Ben,

I read your article after researching desperately on any other treatments for IPF other than the traditional Ofev or Esbriet which have terrible side affects (Esbriet having the worst). When seeing many doctors my husband has been told on and on that the only treatment is Ofev and Oxygen or Lung transplant. Maybe I'm crazy but there has to be something else out there than traditional methods. Everyone seems to be talking about Serrapeptase. Could you advise me on how much is required. I also give him two tab of Apple cider vinegar in water every day which seems to help with the cough. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Michele (Florida) on 05/15/2018
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Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis: My husband was on Esbriet and had horrible side effects. Couldn't even be in light let alone sun light. Turned his skin reddish purple with horrible itching. Now on Ofev with side effect of diarrhea. I am also giving him 2 tbs of organic cider vinegar in water once a day. Seems to help with the cough and very safe.

Also started him on NAC twice a day. Just started NAC so no improvement yet.

Melatonin
Posted by Art (California ) on 05/07/2018 1508 posts
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There have been quite a few posts on EC about people looking for help for IPF, but I have not seen any posts discussing melatonin and IPF.

Here are some fairly recent studies suggesting that melatonin may offer some help in this area. Melatonin has a very good safety profile and is naturally produced by the human body suggesting a lower potential for adverse reactions. Melatonin is also readily available here in the states and is fairly inexpensive.

http://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/19/4/1118/htm

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26122220

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/jpi.12302

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0097266

https://www.atsjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1164/ajrccm-conference.2016.193.1_MeetingAbstracts.A4169

Given the severe nature of IPF, it may be beneficial to look at as many options as possible and determine their relevance for your particular situation!

Art


Laser Therapy
Posted by Barb (Maple Ridge, Bc) on 04/24/2018

Dr Andrew Hall, I'm interested in the laser therapy, is it possible to get more info from you regarding this, ie would one go to a chiropractor for this type of therapy? and are you still doing well?

Thanks, Darb


Serrapeptase and NAC
Posted by Diane (Pa) on 03/12/2018 3 posts

Natalia,

I only went to the pulmonary doctor once, so I've never been on any conventional meds, and I've managed to avoid any more MRI's and CT scans, since the initial ones. I do take a B/P med, and I am prescribed two inhalers, which I keep in case I feel short of breath at all, but I rarely need them.

My last visit to the doctor she said my lungs sounded clear, and that oxygen thing they put on your finger said 98%. Don't know how accurate that is though.

I went through something about a month ago, a lot of coughing, had to get some mucolyxir to get that thick and sticky mucus out, but I'm back to "normal" now.

I read here on Earth Clinic several years ago, that asthma can be triggered somehow by acid reflux, and I do suspect that has a lot to do with some of my issues, so I try to eat several hours prior to bed.

But my go-to supplements for the fibrosis are serrapeptase, and I have added nattokinase, but in the past that has caused nose-bleeds for me, so I am careful with that, and Rejuvenzyme, which seems to have just about all of the ingredients in one of the items in the package that was out of my budget. Ideally, I'd take the serrapetase and revenzyme three times a day, but that has never happened, just because I don't think about it. And then I do take the NAC with vitamin C also. But I prefer mucolyxir to NAC for mucus.

I'd like to know what caused the fibrosis, but I'm just not curious enough to go for a biopsy and have three holes in my lung from chest tubes. Curiosity killed the cat, so they say :) Perhaps if I get to the point where I can't breath I'll change my tune.


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Roy (Dighton Ma) on 03/11/2018

Ben I desperately need your help, are you Ben Sy by any chance? I'd love to get your email so I can give you more background my case is unique but to long to discuss in this format. I recently bought the serrapeptase 120000 spy one a day what else should I be doing I'm on 6 liters of oxygen now, from idiopathic pneumonia supposedly . I had chronic angioadeima from age 15 to 53 I think my lungs swelled and caused severe scarring. Can you contact me?


Chinese Herbs
Posted by Shelly10983 (Fl) on 03/04/2018

Hello, my husband was diagnosed with IPF about 7 years ago. The first doctor put him on Prednisone for about a year, which did nothing except suppress the cough and his symptoms. Plus, it gave him serious mood swings and gained about 30 pounds. There are only two drugs for IPF Esbriet (which gave him horrible side affects of extreme itching and discolored skin when he went in the sun). I should say even in low light his skin turned a purplish red and unbearable itching.

He has now been on OFEV (another approved drug for IPF. Although it doesn't stop or improve the progression, it does seem to help. However, you have to do more than take these drugs for IPF. Whether it is a homeopathic treatment or oxygen, these two drugs don't seem to be enough. I am researching into herbal medicine in addition to OFEV in the hopes of improving lung function. One thing for sure is to keep away from others with colds or flu. When you have IPF and are exposed to colds or flu, it seems to intensify ones IPF symptoms and can linger for weeks.


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Larry (Devon, Uk) on 02/13/2018
5 out of 5 stars

Hi here is my update it is Feb13th 2018. I was given 10 months to live January, 2015. I think I got my dates mixed up when I made the post.

Well, it has been three years since my diagnosis (my lung doctor is not interested in the slightest) about alternative care. I still get my serasolve and trebonase from Pivotal Health in the USA and I have to be honest without them I would not be here. I saw the lung doctor last month and was told there had been a change in my gas exchange from the lung function test. Oh well.

I am two + years in credit for my life thanks to these supplements I still work have a mobile oxygenater for the days when I don't breath so well. I have a ritual every morning to expectorate the phlegm and if I don't do it I cannot breath well all day. I think the viscose phlegm coats the remaining avioli and coughing and spitting it out seems to uncoat the remaining avioli

Drink plenty of water remember water contains oxygen.

I take another supplement which contains 4 types of algae good luck everyone and remember treat the illness one day at a time

Larry


Laser Therapy
Posted by Andrew Hall Dc (Sonora, Ca) on 12/24/2017

Many chiropractors have Class 4 lasers. You could do a local search by going to either Litecure's website or Klaser's. Try litecure.com or Klaserusa.com and find the doctor locator search that they both have


Laser Therapy
Posted by Andrew Hall Dc (Sonora, Ca) on 12/24/2017

HI Stephanie,

yes the laser is still working for me. Just had another pulmonary function test and it had improved yet again! I'm thrilled with my progress.

Dr Andy Hall


Laser Therapy
Posted by Andrew Hall Dc (Sonora, Ca) on 12/24/2017

Hi Edward. A Class 4 laser cannot be purchased by non doctors. You could get a Class 3 but won't penetrate deep enough into the lungs.


Laser Therapy
Posted by Andrew Hall Dc (Sonora, Ca) on 12/24/2017

Fred, I am using a Symbicort inhaler.


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Roy (Waco, Tex) on 12/23/2017

I would like a follow up on the man named Dick, I live within 90 miles of him, and I have the same lung problem


Chinese Herbs
Posted by Jaydee (Canada) on 10/17/2017

Hi Ld from Los Angeles... how is your mom now? Did it continue to help her?


Laser Therapy
Posted by Dave (New Orleans) on 09/22/2017

This is the first time I'm hearing of this Laser therapy, where can I have it done? I hope locally. I sure appreciate the information.

Thanks, Dave


Serrapeptase and NAC
Posted by Natalia (Austin, Texas) on 08/11/2017

That is amazing news Dianne,

When is your next MRI or CT Scan? Would love to hear whether the enzymes have made any structural differences and how your lung function is?
Do you feel the enzymes are working effectively over time and what has your doctor said about you condition since supplementation?

Also what conventional treatments are you currently on?
I'm worried the enzymes would interfere with the immunosuppressants I'm on or heart meds like blood thinners and blood pressure tabs? Would you know where I can find more guidance on this.

Good luck to you and I'm excited to hear your response.


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Angie (Usa) on 07/17/2017

Ben, how much serrapeptase is needed & safe to take daily.?? Thank you


Laser Therapy
Posted by Edward (Coventry, R.i.) on 07/10/2017

Can this Laser be purchased? Can a novice to operate without danger?


Laser Therapy
Posted by Andrew Hall Dc (Sonora, Ca) on 06/21/2017

I would like to update my progress. Since my post on 8/10/16, I have had two more pulmonary function tests that have again improved. No additional fibrous tissue on CT. A gentleman named Garry from Australia has tried laser therapy and his pulmonologist was also shocked to see his pulmonary function tests improve. Please consider this therapy if you suffer from IPF and let me know how you respond. I will be happy to help you find a doctor with an appropriate laser.

Dr Andy Hall


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Sandeep (Mississauga, On) on 06/13/2017

hello Ben,

I've got IPF with lung capacity of 47%. Its holding steady for the last 1 year since I started OFEV 1 tab 150 mg twice a day. It's a trial drug and I'm like a guinea pig. The good news is it has stopped the progression of the disease.i go for check ups every 4 months. Of course it does NOT reverse the progression. I'm interested in the gallium nitrate and serraoeptase you mention. Do you know of anyone who has been able to improve and increase their capacity?

hope to hear from you.

Sandeep.


Cause of IPF
Posted by Gertie (Galax, Va) on 06/09/2017
5 out of 5 stars

My friend has idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis. He noted that many of the patients at the clinic he goes to, many WWII pilots or crew, were exposed to fine oil particles in the cockpit during missions--everything was covered in oil when they would get back. He feels this is the cause of his disease.


Serrapeptase and NAC
Posted by Diane (Pa) on 06/07/2017

Marla,

When I was first told I had pulmonary fibrosis, I checked Neprinol, but it was not in my budget. HOWEVER, I came across a review on Amazon about it, and the person said he or she started out with 3 a day in the comments section under their review. I just looked at it again, and you should be able to easily find that review with the title "very interesting product". All the best to you.


Serrapeptase and NAC
Posted by Diane (Pa) on 06/07/2017

Nat, I don't know about a mold "connection" causing my PF. It could have been any number of things... But since I didn't get into all that with the pulmonary doctor after she told me she wanted me to have surgery for another issue that she was concerned with, in addition to the lung biopsy, there's no way for me to know. I used to cough uncontrollably also.

Will the Serrapeptase and NAC take care of it? I don't know, but the alternative is well, not good.

All I know is that there was a package for Pulmonary Fibrosis that I could not afford, so I've done what I can with the money that I have. I've tried to figure out what would be similar, as they used serrapeptase, a formula that I think had serrapeptase and nattokinese, and some other things. The closest enzyme I could find that had the other things, I found in a enzyme formula, and since we are not allowed to name a specific formula, the ingredients in it are pancreatin, protease, amylase, lipase, bromelain, rutin, papin, serrapeptase, trypsin/chymotrypsin complex, trypsin, chymotrypsin, amla fruit.

In a few months, when I can afford it, I may add that formula to my aresenal.

And then, I've used the NAC, but alternated it with mucolyxir (microdose dna). I think the objective is to get the mucus out.

I used to wheeze so loudly that I had a hard time going to sleep, and although I'm sure I wheezed throughout the day, as soon as my head hit the pillow. So that's improved, because I hardly notice it anymore.

See, I was diagnosed with asthma about a year before the other diagnosis. My doctor wanted me checked for asthma because I was coughing a lot, and it took a month for me to get the pulmonary function test. The woman who did it suggested I tell my doctor my lips were blue that day. So, who knows which came first, the chicken, or the egg (the asthma, or the pulmonary fibrosis?

I also do read healing scriptures, Psalms 103:1-4, Isaiah 53:1-6, Psalm 118:17, and all the healing that Jesus did in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. I don't see where He refused to heal anyone that came to Him.


Laser Therapy
Posted by Stephanie (Northampton) on 06/03/2017

Is the laser treatment still working for you? How would someone get access to such a laser and use it?


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Martin (Montreal) on 05/25/2017

Audrey - I don't understand why don't you give out the information of that clinic in South Africa and/or at least some info on the treatment?


Serrapeptase and NAC
Posted by Marla (Quebec) on 05/24/2017

Hi. Sounds very encouraging. I just bought neprinol and NAC. Pray it helps my very scarred lungs due to scleroderma. Hope your still doing well. How many did you commence with? Blessings and thank you!


Chinese Herbs
Posted by Maggie (Boring, Oregon) on 05/23/2017

Thank you so much for your post. I've recently been diagnosis with pulmonary fibrosis and was first with pneumonia, probably common in the first stages but after 2 months is when I get a diagnosis. Hypersensitive pneumonitis is another diagnosis brought on by using a biologic called Entyvio for bowel disease. The Entyvio cleared up my colitis but caused not only this but extreme and severe arthritic pain. I've been on prednisone for a good month and am now tapered down to 30mg. and will be on for several more weeks. I have made a lot of improvements but have a ways to go. BTW, the pred cleared my arthritis up on the 2nd day! I'm not taking Chinese herbs, back on calcium because of side effects from the pred as well as other herbs. If my problem doesn't get better in 2 months then my pulmonologist will do a lung scope and biopsy for a more true dx. I'm remaining optimistic, accept that I'm on prednisone and it's risks. I just discovered on another website that pulmonary fibrosis is also an autoimmune disease so that goes with the colitis, psoriasis, psoriatic arthritis, and EBV.


Chinese Herbs
Posted by Arain (Luton, Uk) on 05/20/2017

Hi

I have recently been diagnosed iodopathic fibrosis based on C T Scan and other tests . I would be grateful if any one can give me details about using H2O2 ( hydrogen peroxide) in humidifier, such as quantity, strength of the peroxide. Is it added to water already in the humidifier or used neat of certain strength. Your help will be highly appreciated.


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Liz (Canada) on 05/17/2017

Hi Ben, for IPF, early stages, what brand of serapeptase and what dosage would you use? Same for the Gallium Nitrate? and, in your opinion, do these products reverse the illness or just make it easier to live with as I have not heard of anybody getting cured of the pulmonary fibrosis disease. Thanks for your great info on the disease.


Chinese Herbs
Posted by Arain (Luton Uk) on 05/17/2017

Six months I have been diagnosed idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis CT scan based, have been given peridinsolone (steroid) for short time, now on only 5mg per day of the steroid and carbocisteen 2 capsules 3 times a day. I am 75 years of age so far breathing and other issues are not too bad but I would be great ful to learn from any body's experience in an effort to stop the progress if not improve. I am retired from chemical research, I have noted use of Hydrogen peroxide be grateful to have details of its use. Please help


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Candybeagle (Ohio) on 05/04/2017

Peroxide scares me. I have sclera. and have the beginning of fibrosis in the lungs. Do people just breath this in in a vaporizer? I have serrapeptase but only took it once a day will up my dose and do 2x. The medical field is making so much $ treating this stuff like cancer there will not be a cure.


Serrapeptase and NAC
Posted by Nat (Ca&mo) on 04/01/2017

Father (NONsmoker) w/ lung trouble for many years. No blood but cough uncontrollably, too much to bear. He got Exposed to black mold in the house he was in. Coughing worse, very severe!

Were you ALSO exposed to MOLD infection? His lungs show 2/3rd black&dead.

How homeopathically cleanse the body of mold, will Serrapeptase&NAC, etc. take care of this??? Mucus he coughs-up is clear... Can you shed any more light on this? You seem to have won your battle.whew Was there ever a mold connection for you?

Thank You, and congratulations!!


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Nazish (Birmingham. U.k) on 03/27/2017

How do u use it? My mum has lung fibrosis she coughs all dat n night. I was thinking of getting her to try this treatment jus need to know how exactly u wud use the hydrogen n did it be better to purchase or at the 3% volume


Serrapeptase and NAC
Posted by Diane (Pa) on 03/22/2017

Honestly, I just go by how I feel, what the labels tell me I can take, but I did it religiously for about the first 6 -12 months. I've read that some people feel better taking 40,000 units rather than the 120,000.

I did neglect to mention that I also take magnesium and vitamin d daily. Sometimes magnesium citrate, and sometimes a brand that says that it's high absorption magnesium, 100% chelated.

I never took lungs formulas or other systemic enzymes, like I read that others do when I was researching about it, and I personally would avoid taking anything with nattokinese, because it doesn't know when to stop lysing.


Serrapeptase and NAC
Posted by Thomas J (East China, Michigan) on 03/21/2017

I have just started my serra and nac useage about two weeks now, how did you determine the dosage you need to take? Any info will be greatly appreciated.


Serrapeptase and NAC
Posted by Diane (Pa) on 02/23/2017
5 out of 5 stars

Four years ago I was diagnosed with Pulmonary Fibrosis. One 120,000 units (enteric-coated) serrapeptase (can do this three times daily - must be taken on an empty stomach) and one or two - 600 NAC (taken with vitamin C) does wonders for me. Haven't had an MRI or CT-scan since the initial one. My pulmonary doctor wanted me to have a lung biopsy (to try to figure out what caused it), but that didn't appeal to me. All the scars from working in the deli (friers) have disappeared though, as well as ALL the other scars that I had collected throughout my life-time. Serrapeptase eats away the scar tissue (as well as blockages in arteries), and the NAC thins out any mucus. I'm still here, so something must be working.

Chinese Herbs
Posted by Sunny (Melbourne, Australia) on 02/17/2017

Hi everybody. I have been diagnosed with, as I have understood early stage of fibrosis in lung cells close to 3 months back on ct scan basis and shortness of breath. My Consultant has started with Pedrinicilon (Steroid ) which is a immunosuppressor . I already have serious side effects including blood sugar level, cholesterol and severe gastritis for which I've being taking medication for . The lung capacity after the CT was 39% but improved up to 40% after first month of pedrinicilon but what I feel after 3 months is not very promising and my shortness of breath has not significantly improved. I am 48 years old Engineer and cannot work in the field with my prevailing condition.

Could somebody please advise. I am happy to learn from this forum.


Nitrium Phos 200
Posted by Janet (In) on 01/14/2017

Stacey, Amazon and 1 800 homeopathey are some sources.

Although I would read through Teds remedies here on Earth Clinic.

He is spot on with his remedies.

Janet

https://ted.earthclinic.com/cures/pulmonary-fibrosis-lung-disease-remedies.html


Breathing, Enzyme Therapy
Posted by Elizabeth Forbes Bryson (Uk) on 01/14/2017
5 out of 5 stars

IPF:

Over the years I have settled on a programme which has had a positive effect on 92% of those who stay within its guidelines.

I also assume the worse ie it is a slow growing cancer - adjusting the capability of the body to take in at least 75% of oxygen and nitrogen and expelling 90% of carbon dioxide. Research indicates that cancer cells do not flourish in a body with adequate oxygen and discharge of carbon dioxide along with other negative substances, including their rubbish!

Look up Yoga Breathing exercises for Asthmatics. Within 1 week, the breathing pattern improves. It is important that the diaphragm is used to completely empty the lungs and the inhalation is deep enough to take the air to the bottom of the lungs.

Pattern: 3 inhalations - 3 times a day. Start first thing in the morning. Standing up if you can.

Visit your medical adviser. Too often interaction between medication drugs makes the condition worse. Ask for a review. If you are refused change your GP. Ask for an allergy test. Worse ones - statins, blood pressure conrollers and blood thinners. Recently Thyroxin has also come under the radar.

Did you know that during the last 10 years there has been much information released outside the UK showing that the stopping of or reducing of these 3 has not resulted in more deaths AND the patients on them, if they follow the mantras below, have a much better chance. Natural replacements, Hawthorn for BP. Chronic sufferers Hawthorn with Broom. DO NOT STOP your prescribed medication without consulting a fully qualified Natural Health practitioner

Three main points have to be followed for 6 months - without a break. No Smoking ( including the inhaling of perfumed steam - by any means} No alcohol. This means also cutting down the intake of substances that turn into alcohol. Mainly sugars. Any type that is not under the control of a plant and goes onto to a process system.

Turn to enzyme therapy . Suggestions Serraptase 3 times a day for 6 weeks and 0.1% Food Safe Hyaluronic Acid breathed through an inhaler for 30 seconds - 1 hour after a meal (any will do) for 14 days. If coughing occurs, have a small flask of mullein flowers and 1 stick of licqorice made up. Gargle a mouthful - then swallow. REMEMBER - the feeling that you can't breathe is certainly a sign of too much carbon dioxide in your body. DON'T panic. Carry out the breathing exercises

Elizabeth Fully Qualified Natural Medicine Practitioner


Nitrium Phos 200
Posted by Stacey (Florida) on 01/13/2017

Where do I get Nitrium Phosphate 200? My husband has PF and Dr's have suggested Palliative care. I don't want to give up on him!


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Larry (Uk) on 10/01/2016

Hi.This is my story and its for all of you to read. I was on holiday in Morroca xmass 2014 and some people in the hotel had severe colds. Well within hours I started to feel unwell and after a few days was contemplating air ambulance home. However managed the plane journey ok and when I got back home went straight to the doctor he's a wonderful man. he sounded my chest and thought there was crackling sounds and considered congestive heart disease. Had an xray and he sent me to a cardiologist, who thought my heart was fine right place and not enlarged. He refered me to a lung specialist and suggested a ct scan prior to seeing the lung specialist. He said he was concerned about the crackling and the white colour on the bottom of the lungs.

Had the scan on the 12th Jan 2013 and saw the specialist on the 19th Jan to discuss the results. I saw the pulmonary nurse prior to seeing him and I was registering 44 breaths per minute. I entered the consultant's room and was told he had Bad News and that I was terminaly ill and should go home and put my affairs in order. I lost hearing and left in a daze. The delivery was brutal. I was 66, lived on my own and had never developed friends in my area, I cried all night, not for myself but as to how I was to tell my family.

I am alcoholic and was sober 18 yrs at this point and then I got very angry and shouted out at 5 am that I did not sober up to die of a silly lung disease ( I used another kind of language ) when I calmed down I googled the name of the disease and Naturopathic possible cures. I was directed to a website and thanks to their clinic the sent me the medication from the USA it was six different capsules and had to be taken 3 times a day.The Social/Health system kicked in straight away Hospice care took over all the paperwork for extra income which helps the terminally ill. I had just opened a new 1 man business 3 month prior to diagnosis. I used 1 day at a time to cope with the illness after 2 months I was able to return to work that was march 2014.

Today is 1st October 2016. When I next saw the consultant bless him I asked if he thought I was better but he concurred with 7 other specialists and they said severe honeycombing meant I would not live 12 months. I defy the odds and a day at a time is good for me. I know there is no cure but you can stabilise it and slow it down last function test he said no further deterioration.They don't recognise Naturopathic cures because they are not empirically tested haha. I cannot make any criticism publicly and don't wish to. All I say is take responsibility for your own health and go for quality of life rather time.

One last thing, after he said no further deterioration smart alec her stopped the treatment and became very ill with 4 weeks all the ridges on my nails had dissapeared but they were back without the Naturopathic medication. be guide by your heart and do not refuse medication offered. I tried all of them and they made me feel so ill I could not get out of bed.

About Gout, try honey mixed with apple cider vinegar. I take it with sparkling water this combination is called Malic Acid and it neutralises the uric acid and allows the kidneys to accept it and deliver it to the bladder it disolves the uric acid crystals. Google Sir Ranolph Feinnes and read his article


Laser Therapy
Posted by Fred (Mauritius) on 09/28/2016

Hi Andrew, thanks for the post. Am an oral surgeon and suffering IPF since 1 yr. ON what inhaler are you?. Im on Foracort200 2 puff bd.


Chinese Herbs
Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 09/28/2016

Fred, you might want to start with a spritz of h2o2 in a humidifier at night.


Chinese Herbs
Posted by Fred (Mauritius) on 09/28/2016

Hi everybody. I have been diagnosed early stage IPF 1 year back on ct scan basis and shortness of breath. One dr is advising steroid and immunosuppressor while another doctor proposing pirfenidone. I know both of them have serious side effects. I am 58 years old, dentist. Could somebody please advise. I am happy to learn from this forum that there exists also natural remedies:enzymes, H2O2, oil pulling etc. I dont know where to start. please help thanks.-Fred


Laser Therapy
Posted by Timh (Ky) on 08/12/2016 2073 posts

With a number of cases of Pulmonary Fibrosis is the presence of mycoplasma infection, which has been my nemesis for many yrs. Just suggesting the possibility as mycoplasma prevents lung tissue regeneration. My theory is the cholesterol needed for repair is saturated or surrounded by the myco as it's a favorite fuel source. In your case, the laser may be killing mycoplasma. Certainly worth investigating.

I have recently had very good results killing the myco with first Magnet therapy, then Zapping, then Nebulized Colloidal Silver.


Laser Therapy
Posted by Janet (In) on 08/12/2016

Thank you Dr. Hall... how exciting. I love this post. Great information. Janet


Laser Therapy
Posted by Andrew Hall Dc (Sonora, Ca) on 08/10/2016
4 out of 5 stars

I was diagnosed with IPF 2 1/2 years ago. My very experienced pulmonologist said I would be lucky to make it 5 years. I am a chiropractor and the pulmonologist said it probably started from 40 yrs exposure to xray developing chemical. I'm not convinced of that, but I know I have IPF. I am in a unique position as that I utilize a Class IV laser in my office. I began using it on myself as soon as I was diagnosed. I returned to the pulmonologist a month ago after my third CT scan. There has been no additional fibrous tissue in the lungs in the 2 12 years since starting laser therapy, and my pulmonary function tests have actually improved each time, having had 3 total. My doctor said he has never seen this before in his entire career, where the IPF became static and function improved. I refused prednisone, Esbriet, etc. though I do use an inhaler on occasion.

The laser reduces inflammation with a photochemical process. When treating musculoskeletal problems it heals tissue faster and with less scar tissue. It could be that it is keeping more scarring from taking place, but it is not actually removing it. I still have a cough, but much less frequent and severe. I'm still working and playing hard though looking at retirement fairly soon. I'm 64. The dose with the laser I use is 10 watts, 4 minutes on the front of the chest and 4 on the back for a total of 4800 joules. I started with twice a week for the first month and then went to one treatment per week. I know this is working for me and I feel like I got my future back. If I don't get worse than I am, I can live very healthy for a very long time. My goal is 20 more years. If this post helps anyone else with this horrible disease I will be thrilled. It's wonderful to have hope. Dr Hall

Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Elsa (New Zealand) on 07/19/2016

You can try the following: castor oil pack, clay poultice, pau d' Arco, rub a golf ball to your feet and concentrate on the lungs area acupressure point.


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Angel (Johannesburg) on 06/21/2016

Dear Aubrey,

Please post the contact for the Doctor who works with HP. I was recently diagnosed with Pulmonary TB through lung x-ray but I have faith it will clear. My daughter is also expelling thick mucus esp from 03:00 AM. She is not coughing. Her x-ray was clear. We have no family history of this.

Thanks in advance.

Angel


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Audrey (South Africa) on 06/17/2016

Good afternoon to all from a wintery South Africa - I am back once again to inform you of my husband's IFP and what we have been doing. Johann is still on all the natural medicines that I mentioned before. He is still well - his breathing has come down to 14 per minutes - he is still on the cannabis oil as well. The only effect that I have seen from the cannabis oil is that his blood pressure has dropped. Further his weight goes up and down between 73.5 and 71 kg's depending on how hard he is working and playing golf and eating of course but still much better than when he was diagnosed at 69 kg's. The doctor that I use in South Africa will probably not be able to help you in the USA but try and find a medical doctor who works with natural medicines and Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide. Good luck and best wishes to all.


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Laura (Liverpool, England) on 05/12/2016

My father has Idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis lung condition and sadly is getting little relief from the drugs his consultant has prescribed. I have been desperately searching for alternative treatments and am delighted to have found your website. Coincidentally I already have hydrogen peroxide 3% food grade, which I use for both cleaning fruit & veg, and as a mouthwash.

What would be the best way for my father to start using it for his lung disease? I am desperate to help him in any way I can. Thank you so much.


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Sonny (Michigan) on 04/19/2016

I was diagnosed (by biopsy) with idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis (IPF), taking Esbriet and have sleep apnea. I use a cpap and was wondering if I used H202 in the reservoir could that help with my fibrosis? I sure do a lot of coughing constantly and get huge headaches from it. I can't walk twenty yards without being very winded.


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Dhaval (Gandhinagar, Gujarat) on 04/08/2016

Ma'am I read your experience and I would like to inform you that we have been to this situation now because my grandfather has same problem in lungs pnumonia and acute interstitial pneumonia so your experience will help us. Can you give contact number of that doctor who helped you. By the way, there is home remedy for gout I know and it is fenugreek seeds. You just have to soak fenugreek all overnight and then eat it in morning and drink that water. It helps in gout


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Joanne Weston (Windsor, Ontario, Canada) on 04/06/2016

Audrey, I am curious to find out how your husband is doing with the cannabis oil. My mom is suffering from IPF, 8 litres oxygen 24/7 and growing weaker. Her doctor told her at Christmas that she has 6-12 months to live. She has discontinued using Esbriet (prefenidone), as it was no longer doing anything positive for her and giving her so much discomfort with the side effects. We are now considering the cannabis oil as an option to replace the anti-anxiety medication and opioid that she takes before showering (that causes so much anxiety for her and takes so much out of her, she has a nurse come twice a week to assist her with this).


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Ben (Bremerton, Wa ) on 04/05/2016

To recover from copd / pulmonary fibrosis / ipf, you must attack the mycoplasma infection driving the disease, reduce inflammation in the lungs and all throughout the body, destroy biofilm accumulations in the lungs and throughout the body. And reverse the fibrosis scar tissue that is forming in the lungs reducing the airways.

Many here have tried hydrogen peroxide for this condition. Hydrogen peroxide is wonderful stuff but it is only a part of the solution and not a total cure.

Ignore the tissue fibrosis and you will not recover.

There is a component in the blood called fibrin. This is the substance which creates a blood clot when you cut yourself. Without fibrin a simple cut could be fatal.

In pulmonary fibrosis, the lung tissue is under constant attack from a mycoplasma infection and the response from the body is to deposit huge amounts of fibrin in the lungs. This fibrin decreases the available air space and you slowly suffocate.

That's it until you find the answer.

The infection can be reduced by drugs like doxycycline, hydrogen peroxide spray mist inhaled, nano silver mist inhaled, dmso plus crushed garlic inhaled, or gallium nitrate used orally at less than 1% strength. In addition other techniques such as eboo, uvbi, blood electrification, gcmaf, and eating lots of coconut oil all support driving a mycoplasma infection down

But this is still not the answer as none of these things address the tissue fibrosis.

To actually recover much needed airspace there is but one way in the universe to do that effectively. Nothing else works to dissolve tissue fibrosis except systemic enzymes. The strongest one called serrapeptase.

Most types of enzymes even digestive enzymes can help control pain and inflammation but it requires serrapeptase to actually clear the lungs up where fibrin deposits are blocking air space. other enzymes wont touch it.

More enzyme use = greater fibrin removal from the lungs. Less enzyme use =you keep the disease.

Biofilm a thick gummy mucus that coats the lungs drastically reduces airspace. Biofilm typically harbors more than 500 species of bacteria mold yeast fungus and virus plus heavy metals and toxins. We can use hydrogen peroxide to eliminate biofilm but enzymes can do a really good job of that plus break down the fibrin that fills the alveoli air sacs. Serrapeptase also interferes with viral and bacterial growth in a manner very similar to that of antibiotics. When people fail to get well it is often because they have a flaw in their treatment program. Not understanding the role of systemic enzymes in pulmonary fibrosis = no cure.


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Ade (New York ) on 04/05/2016

Hi Audrey, may I have the contact for your doctor please?


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Pieter (Gauteng - South Africa) on 04/04/2016

Good afternoon Audrey.

Hope you are well. Our grandfather was diagnosed with Pulmonary fibrosis and he is no on oxygen 16-24 hours per day. The doctors said they can't do anything.

I know H2O2 and have used it in the past. The only problem is that he had a triple heart bypass 20 years ago and I know that it could be a problem using hydrogen peroxide. They used veins from his legs, so no foreign parts were used.

You mentioned that you know a doctor specializing with peroxide. Would you be able to share the number?

I have made him nose spray and it seems to work a bit, but would like him to see this doctor.

Kind regards

Pieter


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Ben (Bremerton, Washington) on 03/07/2016

That is a typical response to get nowhere from conventional doctors. The trouble you are experiencing is caused by mycoplasma infection and biofilm in your lungs. Most autoimmune disorders are a not so good response by the immune system at trying a feeble attempt at eradicating this organism. Your lungs fill with fibrosis scar tissue slowly reducing your airspaces. If left untreated you will eventually struggle just to try and breathe. Lucky for you came to the right place.

Now you got some serious home work to do but I will point you in the right direction.

Go to youtube, look up "weaponised mycoplasma" Dr Garth Nicholson, then study serrapeptase a systemic enzyme. Google serrapeptase /pulmonary fibrosis or serrapeptase copd they are very similar. Our lungs are being filled with fibrin. Serrapeptase a systemic enzyme tones down an over reactive immune system and literally eats the fibrin plugging your lungs. Serrapeptase also acts against biofilm and attacks mycoplasma. It destroys biofilm and eats foreign proteins found in your blood that germs require for replication. This is the only known way to stop the disease.

Doctors give steroidal antiinflammatories for this condition. This increases the speed of disease progression since mycoplasma feeds off of preformed sterols.

Next thing go to george eby research and spend a few days there studying gallium nitrate. These two things are 99 percent of what you need to reverse the disease. Other treatments that will help are uvbi, whole body blood ozonation, blood electrification or simply buy a hbot chamber. Blood ozonation kills the mycoplasma that drives the disease. Hbot only slaps it around a bit being much weaker than ozone. Once you learn about mineral solutions like gallium nitrate you will see it is able to help a wide variety of seeming totally unrelated diseases. For example pulmonary fibrosis, cancer, multiple sclerosis, lupus, crohns, various std's, arthritis, and a mind boggling variety of other autoimmune diseases are all helped by one simple mineral solution, gallium nitrate. Yet 99.9% of the world has never heard of it. Drug companies never teach doctors about using non drug items. It competes with their interests. Imagine a cheap mineral solution that cures arthritis for a year or more after a single 90 minute exposure. If this info got out they would go broke. Thank God for Earth Clinic!


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Barry (Boise, Idaho) on 03/06/2016
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Reply to all but to S.A. in particular.

I was diagnosed with IPF in 2008. Incurable disease, unknown cause, no cure and regrettably not much interest from the medical community. I can think of many possible causes: dust, fungus, pollution, second hand smoke (I'm a lifelong non-smoker) or heredity. Actually again nobody except victims pay much attention to why it occurs. I always figure: figure out the cause; figure out the cure ( ah well...). Anyway I've developed several methods to keep myself alive, the best one of course is unpleasant: Taking a worthy expectorant and after loosening the gunk (fibrin, mucus) in the lungs cough it out; this can be exhausting, particularly in the am after it builds up.

Sharing is all we can do, it's such a battle one day at a time. Diagnosed with IPF for 7.5 years and still only 64, it's been grueling for my family. Keep fighting the good fight folks and "live".


NAC
Posted by Robert H. (Galveston, Texas) on 02/16/2016
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IPF: After a triple coronary bypass about 2011 about 3 months later I noticed a continuing discomfort around my upper left side of my chest. A referral by my cardiologist to a pulmonary specialist discovered my IPF. He prescribed an albuterol compound for my nebulizer and to sleep all night with oxygen. By my second lung function text it showed a rapid deterioration in my ability to process ambient air. The Dr. arranged for me to receive a new medication called Esbriet (54 mg daily)with little results.

I located a holistic doctor who is a board certified doctor of internal medicine with 29 years of experience caring for mostly refinery workers which fit my life profile perfectly. She put me on 1800 mg of Nac daily and later Nac liquid for my nebulizer. My last lung function test after about 3 months on this protocol showed about 7% improvement across the board, which pleased her greatly. She recommended that I consider 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide intravenously 2 times a week for the next 10 weeks. I have located someone who will do this and I will begin this treatment as soon as I save up the money. I'l let ya'll know what happens. I'll see what my JESUS wants, (amen)

Chinese Herbs
Posted by Ld (Los Angeles) on 01/31/2016

You might try Serrapeptase enzymes.

Try 2 ea twice day on empty stomach.Be patient, may take 4-8 weeks.It helped 80 yr.old mom, oxygen setting 4-lungs "crackling" 50%lung cap, CT scan diagnosed IPF 2years.

Google-Silkworm enzyme serrapeptase.Read the Japanese studies. Best!!


Herbs
Posted by Timh (Ky) on 01/28/2016 2073 posts
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In the herbs dept for Lung Fibrosis is Hawthorn, Mullein, Gotu Kola, Comfrey or Allantoin, Schizzandra, and Astragalus.


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Audrey (Secunda) on 01/28/2016

Phil - good afternoon.

There are so many incredibly sick people that can be helped with the FGHP, but do note that I am not saying that they can be cured.

Just a follow-up on my husband's condition. He is still on the same natural medications as I mentioned before but I have also started him at the end of September 2015 on Cannabis Oil (which is illegal in SA) but since then his 22 breaths per night has come down to 16. 16 is normal. Also on his lung function tests they claim that he might have the beginning of emphysema (ha ha) if they but knew his diagnosis. My husbands weight is between 71 - 73 kg's which can go down by 1.2 kg overnight. His weight should probably not be an issue but it is to me because I can only measure his "health" through his weight and lying some nights with a stop watch counting his breaths per minute while he is sleeping deeply.

I know, I sound mental or at the very least OCD but I am trying my very best to do anything that could influence his health positively. He is still active playing golf twice a week and physically working around the house although I have seen that in the last couple of weeks he is a bit more tired. He calls it being lazy - but he does not have one lazy hair on his head. I have not read of anything that can stop or slow down the honeycombing of his lungs but keeping my eyes peeled for any "new" info. I know that the oil can make your blood pressure a bit low - so hopefully that is the only problem. I hope that you find the help that you need and that you have an easier time breathing now.

Lots of best wishes for a wonderfully informative and healthy 2016. Audrey


Chinese Herbs
Posted by D B (Lake Stevens) on 01/13/2016

Can you tell me if this stuff you used continued to work for your partner? My husband is having a CT scan for fibrosis next week. I am really scared. We just found out this is what his mom died from.


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Philct (Cape Town) on 01/02/2016

Hello Audrey.

Thanks for a very inspirational post above. I am a 74 year old man in Cape Town and was diagnosed with Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis (IPF) about 2 years ago. Although your husband has UIP, the condition is similar to mine. My pulmonologist said that it is incurable but that the symptoms could be relieved to an extent by taking ACC200 effervescent tablets (1 three times a day in water). These have helped but just before Xmas I was involved in a major motor accident in which the seat belt and airbag saved my life, but gave my thorax quite a knock. My breathing has rapidly got worse since then.

I was very interested in reading about the use of H2O2 (peroxide) and am going to try this, initially taking it as drops in water. I am seeing the doctor again soon, and will see what his reaction is, as he never mentioned this idea to me. I know the chemical process - essentially the hydrogen peroxide is unstable and produces molecular oxygen and water. It is the oxygen that helps with the condition. It is in a way the same as having oxygen from a cylinder. (It's also why H2O2 bleaches hair and materials).

As far as a cause is concerned, I believe I may have contracted IPF from the dust of cat litter (the clay type) having been cleaning the kitties' trays every day for the last 20 or so years!

Thanks again for the post - Phil


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Mary (Usa) on 11/04/2015

In my work, I have studied fungus, mold, yeast. In Arizona and California, Utah, parts of Florida, there is a disease called Valley Fever. It comes from a mold under the sand. This condition started many years ago in California during a earthquake. The very old sand came up and since than with all the building going on, this disease is everywhere. The honeycombing with a symptom of the mold disease.

I know you are not in the USA but the symptoms are the same.

ML


Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Audrey (South Africa) on 11/02/2015
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Dear all,

My husband was diagnosed with UIP (Usual Interstitial Pneumonia) in February 2015. Before that for about 2 years he was losing weight and becoming forgetful. After many doctors visits during nothing could be found wrong with him we ended up with this diagnosis. He went onto medication for 1 month and became so ill that within 2 weeks he could not even write. This is a man who previously weighed 82 kg's down to 69 kg's but still very active. My husband made the decision that he was not going to use this medication ever again as it made him so ill. He got this illness due to dust in his workplace.

I started looking for natural remedies and found the Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide information. I bought it at 35% volume. (This can turn your skin white and lightly irritated - wash with lots of water - but rather use gloves). I diluted the 35% down to 3 % with distilled water and bought nasal spray containers (threw out the medication and washed the bottles and sprays well). Then I started him with the sprays, inhaling through the mouth into the lungs, up to 10 times a day, and within 3 days his coughing was nearly gone and his chest better.

Then I started him drinking the 35% at 1 drop 3 times a day in a glass of distilled water and worked up to 15 drops 3 times a day but he started feeling nauseous and we went down to 12 drops again. I would also put 5 ml of the 35% into a humidifier (fill it with water) and put it close to his side of the bed during the night. All of this was good but I wanted more. I also started feeding him 3 meals a day with lots of nice things to entice him to eat more and gave him two protein and bulk shakes a day. Then I started looking for a medical doctor who works with Hydrogen Peroxide and believe it or not I found her. She is excellent. She was very impressed that my husband was already using Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide and she gave him a very good physical but then did something that I have never seen any medical doctor do before. She took a drop of his blood (through his finger like a diabetic would do to measure his sugar) - put it under a microscope and showed us that his wonderful body had started producing a lot of red blood cells which could grab every drop of oxygen that came in to transport it where needed BUT unfortunately the red blood cells were sticking to each other and this could cause either blood cloths or strokes - so she immediately put him on a protocol which included magnesium and b vitamins and 2% FGHP intravenously.

My husband started picking up weight and he has painted the house outside, the roof and works hard in the garden. His breathing is fast 22 breaths per minute (I timed him with a stopwatch during the night while he was sleeping a couple of times). (Ha ha I bet you think that I am mad but I am not just anxiety filled stressed and very very concerned about this wonderful man who I have been married to for nearly 40 years). Unfortunately, they have now told us that he has honeycombing of the lungs which is fatal and they (the doctors) see this as end stage. My husband is still working in the garden - very hard - putting in sprayers and sawing off tree limbs very high in the trees etc.

Our wonderful doctor has told us that she cannot cure him but that we will handle everything as it happens. In the meantime, he picked up weight to 74.7 kg (during a holiday while he was not working so hard and eating very well as I was around him the whole day with food and shakes). He does drink serrapeptase and vit c and alkalizer and MSM powder and as soon as the serrapeptase is up we will start with quercetin bromelain. In the meantime, we have had a discussion where my husband chooses quality of life over quantity and instead of crying (although I am very stressed), we enjoy every day that we have.

I hope that this gives some of you with pulmonary fibrosis new hope and or at least something to follow-up on. I myself have a problem with my chest feeling very tight at times and the 3% spray really really helps. God bless you all.

If there is anyone that can give me the name of the gout medication to use I will also let my husband give it a try or if anyone knows of anything that will stop or even turn around the honeycombing it will be very much appreciated.

Blessings, Audrey

Multiple Supplements
Posted by Timh (Ky) on 10/22/2015 2073 posts
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This P.F. condition I have suffered with for decades and eventually found the cause is a Mycoplasma Infection. This is certainly not always the case, but where there is infection and fibrosis, the chances are likely. The immune & repair mechanisms of the lungs are inhibited by the mycoplasma, thus chronic conditions and sometimes fatal.

Here is the E.C. page for more info https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/mycoplasma_fermentans.html

As for effective treatments, Borax is best for whole body, along with Colloidal Silver, Uva Ursi, Oregon Grape + Garlic, among many other herbs like Pau d' Arco, Cat's Claw, etc..

For the lungs specifically I do occasional Magnet Therapy, then Zapping, then nebulize Colloidal Silver with good results, yet have other conditions that will not allow complete healing (working on that).

The synthetic antibiotic Doxycycline has many good reviews in this case, as it both inhibits mycoplasma replication and stimulates lung repair or regeneration.


Multiple Supplements
Posted by Inday (Hayward, Ca) on 10/21/2015
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Remedies for Pulmonary Fibrosis

10 yrs ago I have pneumonia fluid in the lungs, hospital for 10 days with very potent antibiotics did not work diarrhea no appetite did not get well, then sent home with pique line antibiotics again. Miraculously, got well no fever but pain in the back. Dr said I had scarring in the lungs.

I start doing my own research supplementing with high dose vitamin c, magnesium, repair my gut with colostrum and probiotics and start organic only 2000 mg NAC fish oil high dose, and alpha lipoic acid and many more antioxidants. I avoid Cafo meat grass fed if possible.

Have P.E every year my GP said I was lucky. He didn't ask me what I do I'm willing to share with him, but not interested.

Hope it helps someone.


Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 10/21/2015

Baqir Shah, maybe start with less.


Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Baqir Shah (Islamabad) on 10/20/2015

My mother was diagnosed with IPF in 2008. She has improved with sunflower oil pulling. In a day or two I'm planing to start Hydrogen peroxide drops delivered to the patient in water. To be on the safe side I will start with 7 drops per glass of water. Lets see if it helps. Prayers can change destinies.


Gout Medications for PF
Posted by Robin (Minnesota) on 09/18/2015

Weddy, thanks SO much for posting that gout info! Now I understand some connections with other issues. I have COPD, but I never smoked. Docs can't tell me why I have to be on oxygen at all other than "you are overweight" and then got the flu. So I have been on this oxygen machine for over 2 yrs now and still have to go to work, drag these heavy tanks around and be connected to something at all times. I have a tail folks! Ok.

So I have another serious problem besides lungs, that is something called lipedema, not lymphedema or plain edema. Lipedema is when the lymph system in your body makes you spread out evenly and mostly sideways. In a medical conference one doc talked about proteins. So there is a connection with how the body deals w/proteins. I have had a couple 'grout bumps' on my heels for several years now. So it has to be connected. I get sick as a dog if I take any protease type enzymes for fat digesting enzymes. Just plain can't do it. So finding that lung issues can be fibers related to scaring, or not clearing out dead tissue or scaring from other causes (maybe asbestos or smoke) is a revelation to me. I know this is related to body acidity, but like someone says, if your kidneys can't get it out of the body, you still have a problem. I think my liver, kidney and adrenal are all maxed out.

So thanks again, going to give this some more research, just had to pop in here and let you know!



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