Natural Remedies for a Pelvic Organ Prolapse

COMFREY FOR PROLAPSE, I tried to buy it in the grocery store but the the FDA has villified this herb so it's not as easy to access. They say when they gave rats a third of their diet in comfrey they got liver issues. So I have a cream by Dr. Christopher, skin and bone, I am usiing on my L-5 disc to heal my scar tissue from the rupture and that was the origin of my prolapse issue. I am also using serrapeptase to heal the scar tissue on my back and my liver and love the stuff. Sleep better, less pain, losing wieght, brain is clearer and now using this comfrey for teeth. I read a lot on the topic so I'm now using it for pelvic issues because it heals bone, skin, tendons, ligaments, disc, and cartiledge. Hope you get to try some comfrey and regain overall health. No one has tried it in this section and talked about how it helped them so I will start off by saying ...Yes....try it first. Amazing stuff.

It sounds like my situation is similar to yours. I am 73 and have had a prolapsed bladder for 10 years. Until recently I've been able to manage with exercises and Rose essential oil from time to time. I used menstrual sponges when I was younger. I bought some to try for the prolapse but the sponge sucked up liquid from my body, leaked a bit, and at the end of the day I also had some blood. I think I need a softer sponge. I would like to know more about using a lubricant--how much? Will it reduce the absorption of my own fluids? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions. I have an appointment with a urologist in 3 weeks but would love to avoid surgery.

In Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM), a prolapsed bladder is often attributed to a fundamental imbalance in the body's energy systems, particularly a deficiency or sinking of Qi (vital energy). TCM practitioners approach this condition by aiming to restore the balance of Qi, strengthen the body's energy, and enhance the integrity of the pelvic floor. The focus is on holistic healing, addressing both the physical symptoms and the underlying energy imbalances. From the TCM perspective, prolapsed bladder can be caused by several imbalances. Qi sinking or Qi collapsing is a common cause, where the body's vital energy is weakened, leading to a lack of support for the organs. This condition is often accompanied by symptoms like a bearing-down sensation in the abdomen and chronic diarrhea. Another cause can be Spleen Qi Sinking, where a weak digestive system leads to inadequate energy support, exacerbating pelvic organ prolapse. TCM treatments aim to identify and correct these specific imbalances to alleviate symptoms and prevent recurrence. See a TCM practitioner is my advice.

What shape did you cut it in?

Are you historectomied or in tact? I am in tact and I am wondering if this makes a difference.
Thank you

What do you think about this article in regard to the side effects of DHEA: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/03/19/the-most-common-mistakes-in-bioidentical-hormone-replacement.aspx

I still use dhea 5 mg oral capsule, every second or third day . I ride my bike an hour on flat land most days . My prolapse has almost gone away, it was a stage four. 3 drops lugols iodine in vagina, 1 pea size progesterone cream in vagina, 1/2 pea size estrace from doctor in pubic hairline .

Lots of prayer

I had a digestion disorder and it has taken a lot of things to sort that out, it was the main piece of the puzzle. Digestive enzymes . I switched to low cost mail order company~ swan--- due to low senior income. Saving a small fortune .

L-taurine to displace MSG

Magnesium citrate and just switched to a triple magnesium supplement, D-3+K-2, Natural vitamin E, fish oil capsule, vitamin C, garlic oil, milk thistle for liver detox, Horsetail for silica, B complex, Alpha lipoic acid, TMG for liver also, MSM for skin hair organs and blood, Molybdenum for liver, Veggies 4 life, Bone building formula, N-Acetyl Cysteine for immune health.Ginko leaf, Apple cider vinegar with honey in water, soy lecithin granules heaping tsp.Magtein (L-threonate for memory)

The above once a day, then every other day I add selenium, biotin, folic acid, a mix of amino acids

Also once a week borax foot soak to regulate hormones, and add to the mineral mix, probably going to use more low dose lithium too, when I get around to it.

My goal is to one day only need these on occasion, but until health is complete, I am being diligent. Stay hydrated with pink salt and water.

I hesitate using a DHEA capsule as they all have a filler such as rice flour. Any suggestions from anyone?

I believe raspberry leaf tea and perhaps nettle tea (maybe with some fresh lemon juice) are indicated for prolapse. Sulfury foods are also good for the skin. Brewer's yeast, nutritional yeast, and black strap molasses could be helpful, too. If I were you I would use these liberally every day.

I am post menopause and when the prolapse was extreme I used super tampons saturated with lubricating jelly overnight and/or a few hours during the day until I got better control and things stayed in place. If constipation necessitates stool softeners and the prolapse starts, I use the tampon again.

Please explain how gelatin causes Prolapse.... I am really curious?

I read that Prolapse is caused by a toxic bowel. If you have a toxic bowel, maybe the stool softeners just allowed the bowel to push further down. Just a thought.

I would start on colonics, eating prunes, caster oil, start juicing and go on a raw food diet because raw foods contain digestive enzymes.

I'm sorry, I cannot provide details but when I was in communication with those fighting the FDA about MSG issues I had been informed that gelatin is made from bone. During the manufacturing process, glutamic acid is created and is a nerve stimulant that can stimulate some nerve cells to death, depending how sensitive you are which is determined on how your mother ate while she was pregnant with you. Glutamic acid is naturally occurring BUT when it is a consequence of manufacture it is toxic to many. It is just not recognized. The medical profession is not keeping up with what is happening to our food. More money is wasted on "research" to find cures instead of eliminating the probable cause. It took me over twenty years to learn about the ramifications of processed free glutamic acid but by the process of elimination I learned. I hope this helps. There is a website you could go, and I have seen it listed in other posts here, but I don't know if it is permitted and I wouldn't want this post to be deleted. I will also mention that I had a breech vaginal delivery many years ago but I never experienced any prolapse until I ingested the gelatin capsules.

Hi, Kathy! I just finished reading your post about the gelatin capsules. I was wondering if you knew whether or not the vegetarian gelatin capsules were okay to use?? I put my own powdered herbs into vegetarian gelatin capsules and wondered if this was acceptable. Do you know anything about this type of capsule?? Please let me know if you do. Thank you!

Hi Jennifer, I would not use them. You could mix your powdered herbs in some unsweetened applesauce or, as I do with one of my probiotics, sprinkle the capsule contents between apricots halves and let my saliva mix/dissolve the powder as I swallow. Our food is being engineered to last longer so it has become harder to digest. There was a short period of time that I started getting the "grass-fed" or "free-range" meat, chicken, eggs and milk. All those critters are being fed genetically modified grains and grasses (GMO). The beef was harder on my husband's and my kidneys, I started to experience incontinence from the chicken (I was a big meat and egg eater). By the process of elimination I learned this. I had to get 2% milk because the "grass-fed" dairy cows are being fed GMO grasses and grain to produce more milk, especially in the winter. Even the "free-range" chicken eggs caused me indigestion. I never trusted "organics" and recently found some information to confirm I was correct. I cannot afford the costs anyway.

In my opinion fresher is no longer better. I get frozen or canned vegetables without salt (the flowing agent in salt is another hidden culprit). Salt is not the problem... It is the flowing/anti-caking agent. I use sea salt. The frozen or canned is blanched at their peak so I feel they are better for you. I feel we have grown up eating things that our body has been "conditioned" to tolerate or build up an immunity to. No proof of this... Just my reasoning. I no longer get the extra large eggs. I get medium and I only buy eggs in the cardboard cartons. The yolks seem to have a richer yellow/orange color and I am better able to keep my weight down, which I had struggled with for years. I now limit my eggs and meat consumption because they contain more carbohydrates than they used to. I get the 2% milk in glass bottles because it is safer even though I have to limit that because of the "carb" content NOW.

As far as toxic bowels... For the last few years I have been taking 1/2 tsp. dry mustard in 1/2 Cup cold water first thing in the morning, on an empty stomach to "prime the pump" for bowel evacuation. Mustard is an antiseptic and someone on this site posted they had to use mustard instead of antibiotics. I don't remember where that post was or what I was looking up. There is no doubt that the capsules cause my prolapse because when I stop ingesting them, my prolapse subsides.

HEY DEIDRE... I'm sorry I confused your post with what Jennifer posted. As you see, I remarked about "toxic bowel" to her. Because hidden sources of MSG stimulate nerve cells, maybe it affects the ligaments that hold organs in place. I don't know but if I have the money to alter the probiotics like I did I have good results. I have very limited income. I happened to have stool softeners on hand that I had purchased for our dog. It is ONLY when I have to use them that I experience prolapse. Everyone is different and will react in a different way to hidden sources of manufactured glutamic acid.

It makes me sad that I can't afford to have a dog anymore :-( :-(

Hi again Jennifer, I don't know whether I replied to you here, in response to your post, or if it was another place... Where Deidre responded. I have to work on this piecemeal. I'm not real familiar with this site and what I read I cannot remember all so I don't know if posts are categorized. I confused what Deidre said as coming from you... What she said is also true. I think the two issues relate to each other. Where the ligaments are weakened and not keeping things in place, it seems that stool collects (it was reported that I have a "very tortuous colon") and can begin to ferment. If I get over 100lbs. I know I'm full of... impacted fecal matter and I'm fortunate to have the time needed to evacuate completely. Sometimes it takes a very long time because nerve cells are dead that would prompt elimination. I'm sure I must be a candidate for a colostomy but I don't want to live the rest of my life like that.

to Kathy -- very interesting about gelatin capsules and a prolapsed bladder! I consume a lot of supplements in capsule form every day and didn't think twice about it! Is there any place I can research this further? I have started to dump the contents out into a smoothie now. Thanks for your postings.

Hi Claudine, I only learned what the gelatin capsules were doing to me because of trying to avoid msg in our food. This has been over a twenty-year endeavor during which I have learned much. I don't believe anyone else has reported this effect from gelatin capsules. I reported this to the friend who helped me become aware of the damaging effects of hidden msg in our food. The piecemeal process of elimination over the years is all the confirmation I need to know the gelatin capsules caused my problem. If I have to use stool softeners and begin to feel the prolapse I use a super plus tampon for a few hours during which I "tuck and squeeze" while walking around. Before I discovered it was the gelatin capsules I had to use two of the super plus tampons. Ingestion of other sources of msg could certainly contribute. With what is being done to our food it is nearly impossible to avoid.

Constipation: Having a prolapsed bladder and fighting with constipation off and on all my life, I found that rather than using stool softners, I have had very good luck with a product that contains Psyllium husk, Psyllium seed, Marshmallow root, Slippery Elm bark, and Aloe Vera leaf. I like it better than anything else I've tried. (better than Metamucil which I used previously) It comes in a powder form so no worry about the gelatin capsules. Hope this helps some of you that also have constipation issues.

Hi Sunny, Thanks for you suggestion. I have tried some I am full of adhesions due to multiple surgeries. I have narrowings in my "pipeline" and the psyllium husk does not create the pliable products for elimination that I need.

Hi again Claudine, I've been wondering if you had thought about using food that contains the vitamins/minerals that you need instead of the supplements. That's what I've been trying to do but our food has been changing and that's affecting the supplements too.

This reply is for Sunny: Where can I purchase the powdered product you are referring to? (It took me awhile to process what you were saying)... Fractured skull and multiple head traumas several decades ago. I saw "psyllium husk" and did not process "powder"... Probably doesn't make sense to you but it is difficult for me to sit here long periods of time. ANYWAY, I'm really interested in looking for the product you suggested. Is it available at a well-known drug store that starts with a "C"? That is closer to me than the health food store. I have to plan two days ahead if I'm going to travel that far (only eight miles) but in my condition I don't travel if I have a hint of needing the bathroom. I don't think we can provide names or brand names here... When I'm in this uncomfortable situation I don't what I'm reading... I can't use my head... I feel like I'm going to POP. I need immediate relief.

I have struggled with constipation and prolapse for 30 years. I had two surgeries which are ineffective soon after so I have just put up with it, trying to limit my lifting, which usually is what bothers me. I have used psyllium powder for years but in the last 2 years found that aloe vera juice helps soften my stool. Some tastes terrible but I found a brand (starts with G) that tastes like water. I add it to my smoothies and my lemon water that I carry with me all day. I have learned how much to put in to avoid loose stools but seldom have hard stools any more, depending on what I have eaten.

Can you please the name of the product that has Psyllium husk, Psyllium seed, Marshmallow root, Slippery Elm bark, and Aloe Vera leaf?

Hi Cy--No one answered my questions yet, either. I'm letting you know I'm going to call some pharmacies before I try the health food store, thinking they would be less expensive.

Google "pelvic balls" to strengthen and hold your bladder up in place...works well!! Also, calcium bentonite clay to cleanse the bowel, liver, gall bladder.

Hi there everyone. I have had a prolapse bladder for ten years now and it recently started protruding out of my vagina. I was tired of walking around with my insides starting to hang out, but I did not want to wear a huge tampon, did not want a pessary and certainly did not want an operation. I saw how many sites there are on the internet with women telling about their pain and how the prolapse fell back down within a couple of years. Some are suing for mesh problems as well. I was resigned to the fact that I would just live with this problem of hanging out and wearing supportive panties with a pad etc. However, I have good news for all of you. I am a test pilot for a new prolapse support that goes right under your own underwear. It is very easy to wear and it supports your prolapse bladder to keep it just inside the opening of your vagina, so it won't hang out. Its very easy to wear, affordable and comfortable. You even forget you have it on after you get use to it. It will be out on the market soon and I can't wait to tell others who suffer like I do that there is something you can wear to help support your prolapse. Hope to get back on here soon with more good news for those like me, that don't want an operation and not a candidate for a pessary or other devices that go inside of us. Blessings to all of you

Lynn

Just a word of caution about the "bladder" prolapse, which is really not the bladder. It is an accumulation of stool pushing against the vaginal wall that needs to be expelled. The tampon use is a temporary thing and helps push the stool, sometimes gas, out.

I would like more information on this newer product coming out to wear in underwear. I have stage 3 cystoceal and do not want to have surgery and hate wearing tampons.

I heard of a new product support garment for the prolapse bladder that is worn underneath the existing underwear. This prolapse support garment does not cure the prolapse of course , but it stops the prolapse from protruding out of the vagina area. It can be worn for playing tennis, exercising, riding a bicycle etc. and again keeps the prolapse from falling out further. I will find the web site and write back if anyone wants to see this product.

Hi Lynn, Tampons are not "huge" and if they are inserted correctly, you don't even know they're there. Since I posted last, I've given a lot of thought to what Deidre advised...she was right. That "bulge" or what is said to be your bladder is not. It is stool accumulating in the rectum and pressing against the vaginal wall.

Taking 1/2 tsp. dry mustard in 1/2 C cool water first thing in the morning, on an empty stomach, before breakfast helps a lot, but you still may need to manually push the prolapse back. I sometimes put Witch Hazel on toilet paper to shove it back.

As I have used one or two tampons for temporary "alignment" it helped the stool get back on track to stay in a tract for expulsion. Since my posts over two years ago, even in my old age, I seem to have had success in "shrinking" the rectum a little so a lot of stool does not accumulate (don't sit for long periods). I make a tea of 1/4 tsp. turmeric and 2/4-1/2 tsp. ginger and try to drink this a couple times a day. It can cause some bleeding but these both are reported to fight cancer.

I also learned that I have experienced intussusception, where the small intestines, colon and rectum can "telescope" anywhere along the tract and contributes to constipation. When this occurred, I stretched my "pipeline" so much, it became the same as excess skin when someone loses a lot of weight. I've had four colonoscopies and was told I had a torturous colon. I am done having those because the preparation is torturous due to the hidden sources of MSG.

If you just keep pushing the prolapse back, you're only causing stool to accumulate in the lower part of the rectum and, depending on what you eat, it could become malignant. Additional vitamin C can act as a stool softener or I have alternated two brands of probiotics, on occasion. I do not want to spend the rest of my life with a colostomy.

If you look at a diagram of the colon and rectum you will observe that just before the anus there are areas where stool can accumulate and, due to the "bends" can cut off circulation that would allow gangrene to occur.

This is only my opinion due to what I've experienced. If meals are spaced five to six hours apart with only water in between, this also helps with the much needed elimination to avoid prolapse.

There is a reason the gelatin capsules of the stool softeners contributed to my prolapse that I cannot put into words right now. I hope some of this information will help you.

Hi! My name is Roseanna. I have had pelvic prolapse of my bladder off and on for several years. Of late it is worse. I believe some heavy lifting caused it to worsen. And been terribly stressed with family issues. Saw my Gyno Dr and he put me on antibiotics, and referred me to a Uro Gyno Dr. We decided to wait on that consult as I asked if there was Pelvic Floor PT. I am loving it so far but it is slow and I want the cystocele to just improve like it has so often before. I would love the underwear. I am used to walking 2 miles several times a week but can't right now as I think it could make the prolapse worse. I am not giving up and will reverse this comdition with every natural healthy tool I can find! So am loving all the posts.

Hi Roseanna, I am in my late sixties. I can't emphasize enough how much using the tampons can help. I need them less frequently than I did a couple years ago. I had used two when the prolapse was bad. Sometimes I'll use one to go to the store if I have it or even do some walking.

If you have a stool in the bathroom to put your feet on when inserting the tampon(s) it will help. I pour some Witch Hazel in the lid and dip the end of the tampon in it to cause it to "fan" out before insertion. Make sure the tampon is pushed out enough so the cardboard applicator does not get wet. That will make it difficult to push the tampon all the way out. There is another post here about using lubricating jelly on the tampon. Sometimes just inserting an applicator full of lubricating jelly a couple times a week helps.

Try to always keep your pelvic floor drawn in, like a constant Kegel. It will help strengthen those muscles. My Mar. 9,2013 post above, explains an exercise that I do.

Sleeping with one in helps keep things in alignment. It just varies on what I eat, but if you don't get that stool out you're headed for more problems. I read that the lining of the colon/rectum is only one cell thick. It seems to me that stool accumulation can cause stretching to the point of rupture. When I have bleeding I take 1/2 tsp. cayenne pepper in about 6 oz. of water. I eat a lot of garlic and that can cause bleeding too, so I don't panic when I see some blood.

I just read somewhere, swallowing a TBSP or two of coconut oil will help elimination. I am going to try that.

Thank you all so much for these great posts and info, have learned so much! Am going to get off the couch, which has only been making things worse, and the people I know with this problem only recommend surgery which I don't want to do especially because all of them are worse off with their surgeries, I certainly did not want that to be my alternative! Please let me know more about the prolapse support under garment. so glad I found you guys, and bless you

Hi Evelyn,

I would love to hear more about this. Is it possible for you to post details here?

Has anyone every heard of the new support item that goes under your underwear yet? Please let me know. thanks I can't find anything on it.

Dear Marie,

I found this when I Googled "prolapse support underwear" I trust using the tampons...sometimes just an hour, sometimes longer. By my personal "clinical observation" I found that the gelatin capsule is what causes my prolapse. If I had not been involved with a consumer group a couple decades ago I would have never learned this fact. Everyone is different but I know this causes mine. It started with using the stool softeners.

Now, I alternate one of my probiotics that comes in a capsule. When I open the capsule and empty the contents in some food, I don't have a problem. If I take the entire capsule I will experience prolapse.

Deidre from Sydney, Australia is who brought the "toxic bowel" to my attention...my "prolapse" is accumulating stool. I used to have frequent UTI's and a problem with yeast until she advised me.

KT

Now that holiday's are over I can get back to my cystocele problems, I am going to get the undergarment cause people have posted it really works and it seems that it would, have been drinking half a cup of triple leaf herbal laxative, really helps in keeping colon clear gently and working on my posture another help, will keep you posted on the undergarment, have a great everyday!

Did your prolapse correct itself after stopping the gelatin? I have been taking gelatin for about 7 weeks and noticed prolapse a few weeks ago. It's gotten very bad. I started to suspect and then read what you wrote.

Dear Grace,

Stopping other sources of manufactured glutamic acid (MSG) is most important. There can be 11- 14 mg. of MSG in each capsule, depending on its size. The capsule is what pushed me over the edge, but I had been weeding sources of hidden MSG out of my diet for several years.

As another poster Deirdre advised, that bulge is toxic bowel in your rectum and you need to push that back into your gastrointestinal tract. Using a tampon help to push the prolapse back. Dipping the end in Witch Hazel to "fan" out and applying the lubricant jelly is what I had to do to keep from getting too dry.

It is only 56 degrees in here now, so it's difficult to keep scanning through posts looking for the one that explains what I learned about the ligaments and nerve cells. Ligaments hold everything in place. You need to use a tampon to push the prolapse back in place so new ligaments can form. The body is always trying to heal itself.

This is only my opinion from what I have been learning in dealing with my prolapse and I hope it will help you. KT

The product that is fairly new for supporting a prolapse bladder etc is called the Hideaway. It goes right under your underwear and my friend uses it and so do I. We cannot wear a pessary or have surgery so this product works very well. Easy to wear and you cannot even feel it after you have it on for a few hours. All you have to do is go to the web site to see it at www.prolapsebladdersupport.com Hope this helps those of you who need to use something that does not have to inside of you and is user friendly.

Gail

To clear up some of the MSG issues here, MSG is processed by L- taurine( from eating organ meats)....so when you are low on L-Taurine then your body can't dispose of MSG. Gelatin can be healthy for you

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04/13/2015 MSG, kills brains cells and makes you crave stuff and makes you fat.... I read in another site that MSG depletes the natural levels of taurine in the body and causes heart attacks. Supplementing with Taurine can put up a stronger defense in the body for accidental ingesting of MSG and displace any built up in your body.

Below in wiki are all the hidden names of MSG to deceive us into buying products that have it and cause addictions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosodium_glutamate

Re the Hideaway. I am not understanding how it can actually hold in the cystocele. Does something stick up into the vagina from the support or is it just a very tightened pad that supports the pelvic floor? Thanks

Why do you feel gelatin capsules can cause prolapse bladder? I have never heard of this. Please explain.

If you scroll down to my 9-21-2015 post, I explain. I mentioned about ligaments in another post too but it is too cold to sit here and look for it. Everyone is going to be affected differently. I cannot take capsules without causing problems confirmed again when recently taking Serrapeptase. By the piecemeal process of elimination for over two decades I have learned this.

Do you know if vegetarian Capsules also cause prolapse bladder or is just gelatin capsules?

Dear El,

Yes they can. I cannot take the serrapeptase in the non-gelatin vegetable capsule and not experience a problem with prolapsed "bladder".

KT

Dear El,

I use gelatin capsules with nutmeg in them for my bladder prolapse, and it helps me so much. Gelatin capsules (vegetarian or not) may affect some for the worse, but not everyone.

Holly

Dear Charity, El, Holly and Kathleen,

By the process of elimination I learned to trust the people who went to the food industry and had products tested for the manufactured glutamic acid, "MSG" content. MSG is a nerve stimulant and can destroy nerve cells. There is an erosion (aging) going on that can get to a point for which there is no remedy. The post by Grace above (1-23-16) seems to imply what I tried to share.

KT

Re: gelatin capsules. The prolapse I have just appeared about 1 month ago. I was given a suppository by my gyne that was boric acid plus whatever components go into the suppository. It was compounded, and very expensive. Found a Boric acid capsule that could do the same thing for 1/3 the cost. Began using it. After 3 weeks (I used it about 4 times withing the 3 weeks), I noticed the bulge for the first time. Went back to my Gyne, and she detailed what was happening. Didn't use the capsule, the bulge subsided. Used it again a week ago, the bulge came back. Will wait to see if this is the issue, and will begin using some of the products suggested on this website. Good to know there are people out there that are DIY'ers, and take charge of their own health!

Hi Trish, I see you're from the same state as me, NC and it was very interesting reading about your experiences. I'm in my late seventies and have had a prolapse for two years but it hasn't been a problem until just three weeks ago. Since then it has given me much discomfort and a lot of bleeding. The one thing I worry about is that the Cystocele will drop right out of my vagina and it scares me. I'm always pushing it back but it comes right down again. I went for a routine doctor appt. last week and she wants me to see a gyno-urology Dr.but I've decided I'm going to try treating it myself first. I just ordered some homeopathic medicine for the urinary tract, and some natural estrogen cream to strengthen the tissues around the vaginal opening, but don't know if it's going to work.

I love reading all the posts on this site and feel so much better knowing I'm not the only one who suffers with this condition. What women have to go through with child birth and everything else is unbelievable. I had five children and suppose it took its toll on my body....along with all the heavy lifting. However, at my age...eighty in a couple of months....I'm in pretty good shape and have been a fitness instructor for seniors for over twenty years. However I worry that I may have to give it up if this problem of mine isn't resolved. I teach strength training classes and low impact aerobics, so needless to say I've been very active.

I just wish I had the information that someone mentioned about the device worn underneath the underwear to hold everything in place?

Anyone having any advice for me based on my situation would be greatly appreciated. You are all an inspiration to me. Thanks to everyone.

Dear Renele,

You know, it really breaks my heart when I see very inexpensive cures made into such expensive ones. The greed is very distressing.

For $100 you could buy enough capsules, a capsule machine, and boric acid to last a year or two.

Alternately, there is a very reputable midwife in North Carolina who sells boric acid capsules for a reasonable price.

midwifery in the mountains

I used to buy her Arnica Oil (20 years ago! ) and it was great. (I make my own now.)

Anyway, hopefully you will be able to get what you need for a reasonable price!

~Mama to Many~

Oh honey. Just order boric acid on Amazon.com. I have been buying it online for years....and empty capsules. Get size 00 capsules (gelatin, bovine, whatever) and make your own. It would cost you about $10 for a large bottle of boric acid and about $20 for 200-300 empty capsules. That will last you a long time since you won't be using them every day. BUT, try alkaline water first. It's at your local grocery store and it works. BV is caused by an upset pH balance and once you alkalize your body, then no bacteria can grow. Its much cheaper than anything else out there and it works. I hate to say I am cured because there is no cure for BV, its about keeping the symptoms at bay by keeping your pH balanced.

Thank you Tamara for the info and I intend to check it all out. I am new to this research about prolapse as I didn't know there was any cure for it. I am in my late seventies and have had a prolapse for about two years now. Amazingly I am a fitness instructor for seniors at a local community center so you'd think I'd be the last person to have problems with a prolapse, considering all the exercises I do....strength training and low impact aerobics. Of course having had five children hasn't helped my internal organs because I had difficult deliveries with most of them. Anyway, I do take a lot of supplements in both capsule form and tablets, but I don't believe the capsules are the culprit. I desperately need to get some relief because I've started having real problems with irritation due to the prolapse being so far down and lately I've had some bleeding too. My husband is pushing me to have surgery but I refuse to go that route. I appreciate all the input from everyone on this site and will be forever grateful for any and all the help I can get. I intend to check out those links you posted, so hopefully my life will be a bit easier if I can get some relief.

Blessings to all.

Dear Mary,

I am in my late sixties. I am sure you have read several of my posts about my breech births and POP. Until you stop ingesting any capsule you'll never know. By the process of elimination, through trial and error, I know it's what caused mine.

MSG is a nerve stimulant and can stimulate some nerve cells to death. Depending on the size of the capsule it contains 11-14 mg. of MSG. Ligaments hold organs in place. This is not documented in a medical journal but since ligaments have nerve cells it makes sense to me that ligament nerve cells are being destroyed by ingesting any source of MSG. Because I had made attempts to eliminate hidden sources of MSG from my diet, the only source left was the capsule.

My "bulge" is stool collected in the rectum. Have you tried using tampons? Before I became aware of the capsule(s) being the cause, I sometimes had to use two tampons. They pushed things out and back where they belonged. A couple of times I folded a paper towel so it encompassed the tampon, dipped it in Witch Hazel and shoved that in. That's how I discovered the bulge was accumulated stool and/or gas. (only use Bounty or Viva as they are lint free).

I agree with you about not wanting surgery. I've heard about lawsuits being filed due to irreversible damage from that surgery. Once in awhile, if I'm going to attempt a lot of walking/shopping, I'll insert a tampon for a preventative measure along with practicing Kegels while walking.

You may be affected by the various binders and fillers in your other supplements. GMO's have permeated our food supply in one way or another so, not only is our food affected, the binders and fillers are being manufactured from these...then, there is the addition of hidden sources of manufactured glutamic acid (MSG). If you take any protein powder, that's another source.

Please consider trying the tampons and lubricating jelly for awhile. They really do help. I get the super plus. I limit the use to four hours at a time unless I used it overnight, which was a rare occurrence.

I submitted the importance of using lubricating jelly on top of the Witch Hazel dipped tampon to keep adequate vaginal moisture but do not see it here. This is important. Sometimes I insert the jelly with an applicator a couple times a week. Witch Hazel is drying and you want to keep this area moist. I was using the Premarin cream but feel this caused me a blood clot in one of my legs so I stopped it after I saw warnings advertised. It was also too expensive.

One nutmeg capsule a day helps me with bladder prolapse very much. You can't find them in stores, though. You have to buy the capsules empty and buy nutmeg at the store and fill them yourself. But it is worth it. I take it first thing in the morning, with or without food. I don't know how long it took to notice results, but if I miss a few days I notice the prolapse getting worse.

I heard many years ago that a slant board does wonders for a prolapsed bladder. Please post the results if you try it.

A Prolasped bladder can get worse. As a caregiver, I've seen bladder protruding out of the vaginal area with the elderly. Not qualified for surgical proceedure due to age.

Google "pelvic ball". Works great!!

Anxiety / fight or flight syndrome can cause organs to fall. When the body goes into survival mode, it stops processing digestion or has a burst of diarrhea. The intestinal tract starts tensing either way, putting strain on the abdomen. If there is no stool left after diarrhea ,the tensing muscles alone can cause fatigue and let the organs drop. With constipation there is the added weight of the stool putting pressure on the muscles and when it passes the space it held, opens a gap for the organs to further drop.

Get in touch with your emotions, heal your memories, work on decreasing day to day stress in your life. Keep positive affirmations and love yourself well. Nourishment will help but if you stay in survival mode you won't recover.

I am suprised not to find rebounding (or trampolining as we call it here in Europe), mentioned more often on this site. I discovered it a while ago when I was trying to diminish my myopia. Rebounding works for a lot of ailments and is a great way to exercise too. First I bought a cheap one in a sports shop and after that a more expensive one from my optometrist. I really prefer the second one and never use the first one anymore although the second one is many times more expensive. I would say that if you didn't try the better ones you will be perfectly happy with the cheaper version. I bought a great exercise DVD (a pity one can't name products here) and I really have great fun. Many times I just play some CD I like and do the moves I want. If the weather is good I do it outside on the terrace. I would really recommend this kind of exercise to anybody, young and old and if you have children this is also a great way to have fun and stay healthy and fit at the same time! The benefits of rebounding are huge, you can look them up on the Internet. I couldn't believe it that I had never heard of it other than as a play tool for children.

Just found out I have vaginal prolapse. Wouldnt this make the organs fall more with the jumping like that?

WARNING- I tried rebounding and it made me get a prolapse or at least made a slight one much worse. I googled this and several women and sites said rebounding can cause it.

I am going to be checked by a specialist and may need surgery. It is much more pronounced when I am tired. I have Sjogren's which makes me constipated. I used to be able to strenghthen my bladder with Kegels, but it is just getting worse as I get closer to 60.

I have this problem plus a few others. I have noticed some helps along the way. I had physical therapy and kegals and that was helpful but other issues added complications to the mix. Hormone creams helped with muscle tone and then magnesium and vit D also helped balance the hormones. The battle is still on for me but I walk daily and keep constipation under control as it wreaks havok on the pelvic floor and toxicity. I am trying to get rid of hepatic liver cysts that are putting a load on my core at the moment with milk thistle and alfalfa tablets. I had cysts removal surgery but it didn't work. I love my inversion table to get the bladder to go up for a break from the pressure. Recently bought an exercise ball to sit on to use core muscles and it is less painfull to sit on than a chair. On bad days I use my pessary from my Ob/Gyn....hope that helps... Let me know if you find any answers.

Joy, I read in "Latest Posts" a problem you were having with painful prolapse. I could not reply right away and when I came back to search for that post I could not locate it. I wanted to warn you that the painful "bulge" you feel may not be just your bladder. It could be a build up of stool that is collecting in your colon/rectum and pressing against your vaginal wall. Using one or two super plus tampons dipped in witch hazel and/or some lubricating jelly for that dryness can push the "prolapse" back so you are able to expel the stool...even gas can contribute to the bulge. If you cannot get the stool out it can either become malignant or gangrene can develop.

Thank you for this post on red raspbery leaf tea. How do you dry your leaves for the least amount of mold spores?

When I said I make my own, I meant I mix my own tea together but I buy the leaves from reputable sources locally or online. I usually get organic ones.

I got some leaves from a neighbor today, lots of organic garndeners in my area. Did some research online and they said you could glean them from streambeds and dry them and store them. I boiled 2 cups water and put in two leaves and turned off water and let it sit. Tastes good, kinda sweet but not sugary

I buy drying hangers from the dollar store/asian market and a dozen or so clothesline clips hang on a plastic circle from the hanger and I hung a stem of three leafs on each one to dry by the woodstove.

Hi, I just stumbled upon this conversation. I have a cystocele and have experienced horrible constipation. My solution has been Acacia Root powder. It has made my bowels normal looking, normal feeling, and regular. I highly recommend it to those experiencing constipation. You can buy it on Amazon.com and read people's reviews. Seems to work for a lot of other people too. If you need something cheaper, I've been told that raw potato starch powder works the same way.

I'm in my 70's and have a stage 3 uterine prolapse. I welcome any advise about using a sea sponge for support.

I've tried tampons, and while they do hold everything in place ... which is wonderful ...they become uncomfortable.

Too dense and dry, even with some lubricant on the tip. Since there is more chance of getting a bladder infection when there is a prolapse, I am concerned about the keeping a sponge sanitary. Any insight would be appreciated.

I use maxi pad that kind of fold in half and stick to clothes. It fills in the space where things might fall down to