Natural Remedies for a Pelvic Organ Prolapse

I am in my forties and have given birth naturally to several babies, including some ten pound babies. This is not easy on the pelvic floor and after my last few babies I realized my uterus and bladder were prolapsing. (Midwife says everything is prolapsing! ) It is particularly bad after a birth. It usually gets somewhat better in a few months. However, after my last baby it never got better. (He is almost 2. ) Espeically at the end of the day, my bladder would be uncomfortably low.

Recently, I had a very long day and realized my bladder wasn't low or bothering me. Then I realized it hadn't been bothering me for a couple of weeks. I am pretty sure it is because of Red Raspberry Leaf tea! I started drinking this tea daily several months ago since it is so good for the female system. I have been drinking LOTS of it--3-4 cups a day, faithfully! It is the only thing different that I have been doing. Today I checked a favorite book of mine, "Practical Herbalism. " Sure enough, in the description of Red Raspberry, the author references a older book that talked about using Red Raspberry Leaf for pelvic prolapse!

I was figuring I would just have to have surgery to get everything fixed "up. " But I know people that have done that and had less than wonderful results. Plus, I don't really want to have surgery.

This is a slow way to heal a problem and my problem isn't as severe as it could have been, but it is a cheap and easy and safe and healthy solution for an uncomfortable problem.

If you try this, use mostly Red Raspberry Leaf in your tea. You can also add in some nettle and alfalfa for nutrition or some kind of mint for flavor. I mix my own dry herbs. Then I put 3 T. of the herb mixture in a quart jar and pour boiling water over it. I let it steep for 15 minutes. (Do not keep on the heat. ) Then I strain out the herbs and sweeten. I drank almost a quart a day for months. You can buy tea bags and use 3 - 4 a day, making sure to steep for 15 minutes to extract the maximum benefit from the herbs. Lots of pregnancy teas or women's teas will have lots of red raspberry leaf in them if you don't want to bother making your own mix.

Just for completeness, I do eat healthy, whole foods, made a home, not a lot of sugar, lots of water (including Apple Cider Vinegar, but I have done that for years. ) I also try to get out and walk several times a week, just a mile or so. I do think keeping the muscles strong is important and would like to get more and better excercise, but I am kind of busy raising kids. :)

Hope that helps someone!

I was diagnosed with cystocele about 2 years ago & immediately started searching for alternative healing methods. The first thing I found was a woman who did a special massage technique to help pull up/tone organs & also who recommended lots of Kegels. I've also explored herbs, homeopathy, essential oils, & energy healing--all of these things take time & can be costly, & I tend to be more of an herb person, so I do raspberry tea, & take vitex (chasteberry) & black cohosh for their "women benefits" (I am post-menopausal- hence the onset of my prolapse). Not seeing much of an improvement after several months of doing all of the above, I started searching the internet again & found an amazing book that is written by a women about pelvic organ prolapse. She goes into exhaustive detail about a women's anatomy (compared to a man's), how & why things happen & a non-surgical alternative--her own story is horrendous (she also explains all of the surgeries)--but she found, through much trial & error, a simple solution, basically a "posture" that you have to rethink, retrain yourself to do & a very simple exercise--not Kegels! Apparently Kegels are pretty useless because they only develop the muscles/tissues that help us eliminate, not hold things in! A more effective exercise is similar to a "cat-cow" yoga move while standing. Also, speaking of yoga, which was invented by a man for men, any posture which requires you to bend past 90 degrees (an oblique angle) makes you "push out", which is counter-productive. Do only yoga moves where you are bending 90 degrees or less ("pulling in"); inversions are good, like headstands & shoulder stands-- downward dog is especially do-able for most women--even sitting. I think also, properly nourishing yourself only makes sense, since you hopefully create an environment conducive to tissue improvement & healing (like strengthening capillaries & facia). I began to see improvement once I got serious & into a regular routine of the exercise & always trying to remember to do "the posture", plus doing a small yoga routine of headstand, child's pose & downward dog. I definitely think you have to give your body some type of gravity break! In time I am expecting to not only stop the progression, but to get some reversal as well.

Also, I found the comments about witch hazel very interesting & plan to try that as well! I say, try everything that doesn't sound too wacky! Good luck & lovely healing energy to all of you, my "sistahs".

I was diagnosed with a prolapsed uterus over 30 years ago and was told that I had to have surgery to correct it. Looking it up, I found that surgery would only last for so long and the problem would be back. I decided to try kegel exercises instead. As I'm doing the kegel exercises, I'm pulling my stomach back and up (towards my spine). At the same time I massage the abdominal area to get things moving around and back into place. The prolapsed uterus tries to come back every once in a while, and I get back into the exercises. It works every time, and it has NEVER been a problem for me. Give it a try. Surgery is a money-making scheme!

It's a new day, yes, thankfully. We overcome!

Has anyone tried to use witch hazel over a long period of time for prolapsed bladder. I use it topically for rashes and skin tags from 3-episiotomies that the skin couldn't hold the stitches and now are little skin tags, so fun..... NOT!

I know witch hazel is used to shrink hemmorhoids, in suppositories... I use it to tighten skin on my face, especially around the eyes. Basically love the stuff.

Been trying to put it in the vaginal cavity with finger and get bladder to go back up.

Hello.

I have a grade 3 bladder prolapse. A pessary, tampons, etc/etc/etc did not work for me. No leakage, just bladder protruding to vaginal lips. Yuck. My daughter uses a menstrual sponge. I wondered if it would work for my bladder prolapse. I bought a natural sponge, cut it to what I thought might hold up my bladder. LOL Several tries later I had found the right size of sponge that completely and utterly held my bladder up. After several uses I found the sponge irritated my insides (blood on sponge), so I added a lubricant (flax oil, replens, sliquid). They all work really well. I have several sponges that I now use almost daily. My favourite one is actually a natural sponge used for painting, of all things. You can get it at Michael's. I sew thread on the sponge so I can retrieve it easily. I lubricate the sponge on the outside, draw all edges together, and then insert in to vagina as far up as I can and pull the thread down as I retract my fingers. My bladder is completely held up way past the vaginal area. It does not slip out. I can't feel it as the sponge is so light. It has been a life saver for me. Wash sponge after use with soapy water, or Dawn. I microwave for 1 minute every two weeks to kill any bacteria that may linger on the sponge.

Try it! You might like it.

day 8 UPdate....... and bladder is > Up < most of the day , usually mid day reapply astringent in vaginal cavity ( witch hazel) when bladder drops down ..... and no more prolapse.

The product on Amazon is also a plant astringent they claim TIGHTENS cavity and aids in prolapse recovery....

I hope all the other women out there can find this post and get some relief from the pain of prolapse. Don't know how to get this FREE good news out ..... Not selling anything... Tried to get a women's site to post it but they are selling surgery and sorrow... So..... No post!

Dear Debbie,

A few things you could try - nutmeg. It helped me with frequency urges. I would take 1/4 teaspoon in the morning. Another thing that I think is even better is Red Raspberry Leaf tea. Drinking a couple of glasses of strong red raspberry leaf tea help keep the entire female system toned. Have you ever seen a physical therapist who specializes in pelvic floor? I found a good one and she helped me so much. Unfortunately, I did not find her until after I had surgery. I had pelvic prolapse surgery (basically reconstructive surgery two years ago (I was 53). I did not feel like the urologist was very honest with me. She called it a "procedure" and it was outpatient and she did not prepare me for how difficult recovery would be.

I have had many surgeries over the years (jaw surgery, laparoscopic surgery, exploratory abdominal surgery, etc.) and recovery from pelvic prolapse surgery was by far the worst of the worst. The pain lasted for a year, until I went to the pelvic floor PT. I had to use a catheter to empty my bladder for weeks after surgery. I had burning pelvic pain for a very long time. Two years later when my bladder is tired it definitely drops down again, even though I do my exercises every day. But the red raspberry leaf tea helps a lot (I just get lazy about drinking it.) Maybe your surgery wouldn't be as extensive, and maybe your urologist is better than mine was. Just ask a lot of questions. My PT said I should have gotten PT after surgery, but my urologist had not suggested it.

I wish you well!

~Mama to Many~

COMFREY FOR PROLAPSE, I tried to buy it in the grocery store but the the FDA has villified this herb so it's not as easy to access. They say when they gave rats a third of their diet in comfrey they got liver issues. So I have a cream by Dr. Christopher, skin and bone, I am usiing on my L-5 disc to heal my scar tissue from the rupture and that was the origin of my prolapse issue. I am also using serrapeptase to heal the scar tissue on my back and my liver and love the stuff. Sleep better, less pain, losing wieght, brain is clearer and now using this comfrey for teeth. I read a lot on the topic so I'm now using it for pelvic issues because it heals bone, skin, tendons, ligaments, disc, and cartiledge. Hope you get to try some comfrey and regain overall health. No one has tried it in this section and talked about how it helped them so I will start off by saying ...Yes....try it first. Amazing stuff.

Re: gelatin capsules. The prolapse I have just appeared about 1 month ago. I was given a suppository by my gyne that was boric acid plus whatever components go into the suppository. It was compounded, and very expensive. Found a Boric acid capsule that could do the same thing for 1/3 the cost. Began using it. After 3 weeks (I used it about 4 times withing the 3 weeks), I noticed the bulge for the first time. Went back to my Gyne, and she detailed what was happening. Didn't use the capsule, the bulge subsided. Used it again a week ago, the bulge came back. Will wait to see if this is the issue, and will begin using some of the products suggested on this website. Good to know there are people out there that are DIY'ers, and take charge of their own health!

Hello.

I have a grade 3 bladder prolapse. A pessary, tampons, etc/etc/etc did not work for me. No leakage, just bladder protruding to vaginal lips. Yuck. My daughter uses a menstrual sponge. I wondered if it would work for my bladder prolapse. I bought a natural sponge, cut it to what I thought might hold up my bladder. LOL Several tries later I had found the right size of sponge that completely and utterly held my bladder up. After several uses I found the sponge irritated my insides (blood on sponge), so I added a lubricant (flax oil, replens, sliquid). They all work really well. I have several sponges that I now use almost daily. My favourite one is actually a natural sponge used for painting, of all things. You can get it at Michael's. I sew thread on the sponge so I can retrieve it easily. I lubricate the sponge on the outside, draw all edges together, and then insert in to vagina as far up as I can and pull the thread down as I retract my fingers. My bladder is completely held up way past the vaginal area. It does not slip out. I can't feel it as the sponge is so light. It has been a life saver for me. Wash sponge after use with soapy water, or Dawn. I microwave for 1 minute every two weeks to kill any bacteria that may linger on the sponge.

Try it! You might like it.

I have some success with using capsules of DHEA 5 mg. I open the capsule and sprinkle a third out on a surface and mix with a cream or oil and rub it inside the vagina in the morning. Put on a light pad and go about my day .( Bladder Prolapse since 2010 )

FOR ME , DHEA seems to even out other hormones and energy levels go up. Also firmer muscles.

I use a little progesterone cream on facial skin that looks aged and it looks more youthful with just a dab.( the half of a split pea for size, amount of cream) I use for outings , when I want to look my best.

MSM is also very helpful for skin, new hair growth , and muscle with VITAMIN C

My physical therapist talked me into stopping my uphill walks while going through therapy using kegals and kegals did not solve any problems . If you are already able to walk , DON'T STOP!!!

Dear Leanne,

I am so sorry to hear it. Prolapse is miserable.

I have found that drinking 3-4 cups of red raspberry leaf tea daily does help with prolapse.

Also, I go to a physical therapist that specializes in prolapse. She has helped me a lot.

~Mama to Many~

Prolapsed Bladder:

Sunbathing has helped me and getting the sun close to the problem helps even more.... my prolapse is rarely painful like it was, since frequent sunbathing (2015-2016), not burning...but 15 -30 minutes at the right hours for healthy vitamin D. It helps many hormonal systems and heals skin issues (vitilligo) and I feel better. I also tan slightly under arm pits and under breast where sun rarely shines and cancers tend to form.

Hi there everyone. I have had a prolapse bladder for ten years now and it recently started protruding out of my vagina. I was tired of walking around with my insides starting to hang out, but I did not want to wear a huge tampon, did not want a pessary and certainly did not want an operation. I saw how many sites there are on the internet with women telling about their pain and how the prolapse fell back down within a couple of years. Some are suing for mesh problems as well. I was resigned to the fact that I would just live with this problem of hanging out and wearing supportive panties with a pad etc. However, I have good news for all of you. I am a test pilot for a new prolapse support that goes right under your own underwear. It is very easy to wear and it supports your prolapse bladder to keep it just inside the opening of your vagina, so it won't hang out. Its very easy to wear, affordable and comfortable. You even forget you have it on after you get use to it. It will be out on the market soon and I can't wait to tell others who suffer like I do that there is something you can wear to help support your prolapse. Hope to get back on here soon with more good news for those like me, that don't want an operation and not a candidate for a pessary or other devices that go inside of us. Blessings to all of you

Lynn

For those with pelvic organ prolapse please look in to physical therapy. There are therapists that specialize in pelvic health. I have been going to PT for a couple of months and have found it to help me very much. I no longer must plan every outing around the availability of restrooms. They help you isolate specific muscles to strengthen and give you exercises and make sure you are doing them correctly. Juliette

I believe raspberry leaf tea and perhaps nettle tea (maybe with some fresh lemon juice) are indicated for prolapse. Sulfury foods are also good for the skin. Brewer's yeast, nutritional yeast, and black strap molasses could be helpful, too. If I were you I would use these liberally every day.

Linda, if what you have is a prolapsed bladder (cystocele) I would not recommend a Squatty Potty. During the last 2 months, I noticed that squatting made my cystocele prolapse protrude even further and also made it very uncomfortable.

To UPDATE in the prolapsed bladder site my post on witch hazel.... Day 4, bladder is mostly up and I reapply the witch hazel with my finger if it drops but not until I notice it is down. Mostly it is up.

I AM SOOOOO THANKFUL TO HAVE RELIEF!!! Hope this helps all you fellow sufferers out there!

Been doing one application midday. There is a product that tightens the vagina with another plant astringent on amazon available. Witch hazel is less expensive. Plan to try some jojoba oil with it next.

Every time I use it, it pulls the bladder back up into place.... Not a perfect fix -but MUCH BETTER than not using it. There is another person that uses red raspberry leaf tea to pull her bladder back into place, she drinks a lot of tea every day.

One more thing that helps a LOT is magnesium citrate.

My prolapse had an added issue of bowel and bladder incontinence from the ruptured L-5 disc that started it all. I shop at Ross because they have lots of variety. I found some stretchy 5 % elastin and 95% cotton low/mid rise that fit snug and I noticed when I wore them I had less pain from the bladder bump hanging down because they were supporting it. I wore three pairs of underwear at a time and changed them if needed . I never bought adult diapers or thick pads because I also battled yeast infections from candida most of my life. I don't have those now unless I do some form of a detox. I pray a lot and study a lot and take a lot of supplements. Low B-12 can cause bladder leaks. I start most days with ox bile because cortisol stops the body from producing bile and affects digestion( and mineral absorption) and that would affect prolapse. I learned some digestion stuff from Eric Berg. My comfrey use this week has led to very restful sleep. My plants just started to get spring leaves and I'm hoping to get complete cell renewal full body. A miracle would be nice too, praying for those. Blessings, charity

I can't understand why my posts seem to been ignored. Years ago I reported that I have no doubt the capsule, whether gelatin or vegetarian caused my prolapse. I provided details of how I knew. Accumulated hidden sources of MSG cause this too. This was a result of piecemeal learning by the process of elimination over several years.

Previously I reported my GI tract rupture then discovering intussusception and the sever between the anal canal and colon. Both of my babies had been breech but only one was cesarean. So, I am full of adhesions due to multiple surgeries. The reason I am saying all this again is because sources of MSG, especially capsules cause prolapse. The capsule alone was tested and was reported to be about 14 mg. of MSG.

I am in my 70's, weigh 100 lbs. and have no problem with prolapse until I ingest capsules. When prolapse occurs I use a tampon for a few hours or overnight. THIS REALLY DOES WORK. When my husband was alive, before he became ill, sometimes he helped (I don't think I have to detail how! ). C'mon ladies, try the tampons. In discovering this fact I sometimes had to use two but that was several years ago before I totally cleaned up my diet and had massive prolapse.

I am in my sixties and discovered that gelatin capsules are what caused my prolapse. I could not tolerate ingesting capsules. I always opened them and took the contents. When I started to use the stool softeners I had to swallow the capsule(s). I then experienced prolapse... This was just this past Dec. When I stopped using the stool softeners the prolapse began to subside. I juggle between probiotics, magnesium powder and the stool softeners. When I walk, go up and down the stairs or stand at the kitchen sink I do Kegels. I also do them when I lift ten lbs. from the floor... As you come up, tuck & squeeze your butt. I was fortunate to recognize this early enough to fix it (just a few months) so if anyone has ingested supplements in capsules for a period of time it may take longer.

I read that Prolapse is caused by a toxic bowel. If you have a toxic bowel, maybe the stool softeners just allowed the bowel to push further down. Just a thought.

I would start on colonics, eating prunes, caster oil, start juicing and go on a raw food diet because raw foods contain digestive enzymes.

Hi Jennifer, I would not use them. You could mix your powdered herbs in some unsweetened applesauce or, as I do with one of my probiotics, sprinkle the capsule contents between apricots halves and let my saliva mix/dissolve the powder as I swallow. Our food is being engineered to last longer so it has become harder to digest. There was a short period of time that I started getting the "grass-fed" or "free-range" meat, chicken, eggs and milk. All those critters are being fed genetically modified grains and grasses (GMO). The beef was harder on my husband's and my kidneys, I started to experience incontinence from the chicken (I was a big meat and egg eater). By the process of elimination I learned this. I had to get 2% milk because the "grass-fed" dairy cows are being fed GMO grasses and grain to produce more milk, especially in the winter. Even the "free-range" chicken eggs caused me indigestion. I never trusted "organics" and recently found some information to confirm I was correct. I cannot afford the costs anyway.

In my opinion fresher is no longer better. I get frozen or canned vegetables without salt (the flowing agent in salt is another hidden culprit). Salt is not the problem... It is the flowing/anti-caking agent. I use sea salt. The frozen or canned is blanched at their peak so I feel they are better for you. I feel we have grown up eating things that our body has been "conditioned" to tolerate or build up an immunity to. No proof of this... Just my reasoning. I no longer get the extra large eggs. I get medium and I only buy eggs in the cardboard cartons. The yolks seem to have a richer yellow/orange color and I am better able to keep my weight down, which I had struggled with for years. I now limit my eggs and meat consumption because they contain more carbohydrates than they used to. I get the 2% milk in glass bottles because it is safer even though I have to limit that because of the "carb" content NOW.

As far as toxic bowels... For the last few years I have been taking 1/2 tsp. dry mustard in 1/2 Cup cold water first thing in the morning, on an empty stomach to "prime the pump" for bowel evacuation. Mustard is an antiseptic and someone on this site posted they had to use mustard instead of antibiotics. I don't remember where that post was or what I was looking up. There is no doubt that the capsules cause my prolapse because when I stop ingesting them, my prolapse subsides.

Anxiety / fight or flight syndrome can cause organs to fall. When the body goes into survival mode, it stops processing digestion or has a burst of diarrhea. The intestinal tract starts tensing either way, putting strain on the abdomen. If there is no stool left after diarrhea ,the tensing muscles alone can cause fatigue and let the organs drop. With constipation there is the added weight of the stool putting pressure on the muscles and when it passes the space it held, opens a gap for the organs to further drop.

Get in touch with your emotions, heal your memories, work on decreasing day to day stress in your life. Keep positive affirmations and love yourself well. Nourishment will help but if you stay in survival mode you won't recover.

It sounds like my situation is similar to yours. I am 73 and have had a prolapsed bladder for 10 years. Until recently I've been able to manage with exercises and Rose essential oil from time to time. I used menstrual sponges when I was younger. I bought some to try for the prolapse but the sponge sucked up liquid from my body, leaked a bit, and at the end of the day I also had some blood. I think I need a softer sponge. I would like to know more about using a lubricant--how much? Will it reduce the absorption of my own fluids? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions. I have an appointment with a urologist in 3 weeks but would love to avoid surgery.

Hello, folks. I am writing about some alternative information about bladder prolapse, also called pelvic organ prolapse. Although I do not struggle with this condition, I very much want to avoid it, as it obviously can lead to lots of pain and possibly ineffective surgeries. Also, it can affect anyone, regardless of gender, age, or previous pregnancies (or lack of). Men are not immune from Pelvic Organ Prolapse! If I can advise any one thing, I would absolutely avoid prolapse surgery at all costs. They have been shown to not only be ineffective at treating the issue and stopping the prolapse, but also can contribute to more pain and risk of further surgeries! That doesn't sound like a fair trade-off to me. However, the road to recovery may require many different avenues to explore and lots of hard work.

I am not at all an expert, but I wanted to pass along this information as I feel it is vital for everyone to learn about how to heal our bodies and live in the most natural way possible. I follow Katy Bowman's blog for this reason. She is a biomechanist, mother, and natural movement specialist that has dedicated her life to helping people understand and use their bodies in the most mechanically appropriate way. Two blog posts specifically address pressure issues like prolapse, here:

http://www.alignedandwell.com/katysays/under-pressure-part-1/

And

http://www.alignedandwell.com/katysays/push-em-out-push-em-out/

To summarize very briefly, she explains how and why our organs may be pushed out of their normal spaces and talks about steps to rectify these issues. Some people will find relief by letting go of internal pressure (which may be harder than it sounds), aligning your body appropriately (which is NOT the same as posture! ), and strengthening your pelvic floor (not tightening! ) I believe that diet, supplements, kegels, gentle exercise and other remedies can also play a part in healing this unfortunate condition. The information she presents is vast and thorough, with many conditions connecting together as our body parts are connected. I encourage anyone to check out her information and see how she can help you.

Please know that this will be very intensive and mindful work, as it is unraveling years (decades) of habits that have accumulated in unbalanced loads on the body. You might need to follow up with someone who is familiar with the issues presented. Katy's blog is filled with free, useful information, but she also runs an educational business dedicated to teaching better practices to movement specialists like yoga and Pilates instructors, doulas and midwives, physical therapists and chiropractors, and more. There may be someone in your area that can help you on your journey to overcome prolapse. She is not the only one teaching this information, but I don't know anyone else specifically.

I suggest starting with these two blog posts and then moving on to the posts directed towards the pelvic floor in general. The information is practically unlimited and affects issues like back pain, foot and leg pain, pregnancy issues, balance, digestion, exercise pain, carpal tunnel syndrome, bunions, and it goes on and on.

I hope someone gets relief by reading this.

I am post menopause and when the prolapse was extreme I used super tampons saturated with lubricating jelly overnight and/or a few hours during the day until I got better control and things stayed in place. If constipation necessitates stool softeners and the prolapse starts, I use the tampon again.

Please explain how gelatin causes Prolapse.... I am really curious?

This reply is for Sunny: Where can I purchase the powdered product you are referring to? (It took me awhile to process what you were saying)... Fractured skull and multiple head traumas several decades ago. I saw "psyllium husk" and did not process "powder"... Probably doesn't make sense to you but it is difficult for me to sit here long periods of time. ANYWAY, I'm really interested in looking for the product you suggested. Is it available at a well-known drug store that starts with a "C"? That is closer to me than the health food store. I have to plan two days ahead if I'm going to travel that far (only eight miles) but in my condition I don't travel if I have a hint of needing the bathroom. I don't think we can provide names or brand names here... When I'm in this uncomfortable situation I don't what I'm reading... I can't use my head... I feel like I'm going to POP. I need immediate relief.

I heard of a new product support garment for the prolapse bladder that is worn underneath the existing underwear. This prolapse support garment does not cure the prolapse of course , but it stops the prolapse from protruding out of the vagina area. It can be worn for playing tennis, exercising, riding a bicycle etc. and again keeps the prolapse from falling out further. I will find the web site and write back if anyone wants to see this product.

My bladder weakness and slight prolapse is improved with rebounding on a mini trampoline. I do kegel pelvic floor exercises, albeit inconsistently, however rebounding 7 mins twice daily (I started at 2 mins and build by 1 daily) has given me the best result. After 1 week I have already noticed that leakage on jumping is almost nonexistent.

A lot has happened since I posted last and I have not been on here for quite a while. I'm having trouble navigating on this updated site and don't know if this is the appropriate place to post this but wanted to report I am still successfully using tampons once in awhile for prolapse. I am happy with my discovery about this issue.

KT

Has your doctor suggested a special girdle to help hold things in place? I would look into it.

I have done much for uterine prolapse. Some things I have done are I think are "universal". 1) 2 Raspberry leaf tea bags (or 2 teaspoons loose) steeped at least 15 minutes to get max benefit. 2). Bath Epsom salts with essential oils (consult an aromatherapist or essential oil book for women and babies). Depending upon how miserable Soak 1-3 times a day for 20-45 min. 3) DHEA/Estriol suppository is a must (hyaluronic acid suppository if cancer challenged).

I still use dhea 5 mg oral capsule, every second or third day . I ride my bike an hour on flat land most days . My prolapse has almost gone away, it was a stage four. 3 drops lugols iodine in vagina, 1 pea size progesterone cream in vagina, 1/2 pea size estrace from doctor in pubic hairline .

Lots of prayer

I had a digestion disorder and it has taken a lot of things to sort that out, it was the main piece of the puzzle. Digestive enzymes . I switched to low cost mail order company~ swan--- due to low senior income. Saving a small fortune .

L-taurine to displace MSG

Magnesium citrate and just switched to a triple magnesium supplement, D-3+K-2, Natural vitamin E, fish oil capsule, vitamin C, garlic oil, milk thistle for liver detox, Horsetail for silica, B complex, Alpha lipoic acid, TMG for liver also, MSM for skin hair organs and blood, Molybdenum for liver, Veggies 4 life, Bone building formula, N-Acetyl Cysteine for immune health.Ginko leaf, Apple cider vinegar with honey in water, soy lecithin granules heaping tsp.Magtein (L-threonate for memory)

The above once a day, then every other day I add selenium, biotin, folic acid, a mix of amino acids

Also once a week borax foot soak to regulate hormones, and add to the mineral mix, probably going to use more low dose lithium too, when I get around to it.

My goal is to one day only need these on occasion, but until health is complete, I am being diligent. Stay hydrated with pink salt and water.

I have enjoyed reading all of the comments and have learned many things on this site that I can do to help my situation.

However, there are many comments saying that the cystocele is not the bladder, but the rectum protruding in the vagina. This is NOT correct. They are two completely different issues. The protrusion of the rectum in the vagina is called a RECTOCELE and is a POSTERIOR PROLAPSE and the protrusion of the bladder is a CYSTOCELE and is a ANTERIOR PROLAPSE.

I had surgery for a RECTOCELE 30 years ago when I was in my 20's (large babies and constipation problems during that period of my life, and also had my uterus removed during the same surgery as the RECTOCELE). They did not use mesh, but did use the muscles from my uterus to "rebuild" the posterior wall. The surgery was extremely painful, but in the 30 years since, I never had any problems.

About 2 months ago my bladder became very uncomfortable....stage 3 cystocele. The pessaries did not work, and pressure from exercise or lifting made it protrude further. I am now 2 weeks post op from cystocele repair. I was just told that I have some residual bladder drop but it is much better than it was. How disappointing...the surgery was much easier and less painful than the rectocele was, but was hoping the problem was fixed.

I was very happy to find this site with natural remedies that I am looking forward to trying once I am healed from surgery. I usually do things the natural way, eat healthy and live a healthy lifestyle..too bad I didn't see this site before.

Good luck and blessings to all of you!

When needing to use a tampon I pour Witch Hazel in the lid and dip the end of the tampon in it. This will cause the end of the tampon to "fan" out and then I slowly apply the lubricating jelly. Because the tampon is soaked more with the Witch Hazel, I get more benefit from the jelly because obviously so much is not soaked into the tampon.

I highly recommend Tashas Hab it Pelvic Floor Exercises. You can feel the difference in a short time and can feel the organs reposition as you do the exercises. She is a great teacher.

Hi, I just stumbled upon this conversation. I have a cystocele and have experienced horrible constipation. My solution has been Acacia Root powder. It has made my bowels normal looking, normal feeling, and regular. I highly recommend it to those experiencing constipation. You can buy it on Amazon.com and read people's reviews. Seems to work for a lot of other people too. If you need something cheaper, I've been told that raw potato starch powder works the same way.

I always use the walmart cheap brand. Any plant that is astringent pulls things tight. Use a little cream if you use it a lot . I would use the walmart miconazole, not expensive and helps. That reminds me you can buy vagicaine right next to it to stop vaginal pain. Love that. I learned a lot with a stage 4 prolapse. I have battled it 11 years and >>> I am overcoming it. I do lots of raking, digging, dragging tarps of debris and yes I still have it but the pain is mostly a thing of the past. I use colace, store brand from walmart for any constipation issues, no cramps or runs. I use an inversion table > don't go all the way back, even putting blocks under the foot of bed would help, but I wouldn't sleep that way, just do it for 15 minutes a day or so . Give your pelvic a break. It's actually tendons and ligaments that hold that bladder in place. I am not sure but I think collagen affects that. Coughing is bad for prolapse. Underwear that hold lower pelvic tightly upward, but not push on stomach Because that pushes bladder down. Tension in the abdomen pushes the bladder down. I got the information on a pamphlet from the doctor that three organs can fall into the vaginal opening, so it's best to figure it out and save yourself from those others dropping. Magnesium is the muscle mineral. I good mineral supplement is important.

I would encourage you to go to youtube and watch Eric Berg on cortisol because stress is what led to my health issues and if I could have known I might have avoided a lot of suffering.

Here are my favorites ....faith that I am overcoming is number one because prolapse is very uncomfortable. Sit on a core ball to get relief. One pain trick is Oscillococcinum relieves body pain. Another is if you get in the bathtub up to your neck it tricks your body to think the pain is coming from a larger area and feels very relaxing. Drink water, water surrounding our skin pulls water out of our body.( prune fingers) MSM and Vitamin C for tissue repairs.

I use emerita phytoestrogen cream and progesterone cream in small amounts. I use progesterone inside the vagina and estrogen above the pubic hair line. I do this every day after a shower. For me it's the size of a pea of each one. I know if I miss a day.

I also use dhea 10mg one every four days to counter cortisol.

I can say I haven't tried castor oil packs on it but castor oil works on face pain, mouth pain, liver pain, stomach pain, back pain. Nicknamed palm of Christ. Messy miracle oil.

Currently, I am using a lot of comfrey, I make tea and then eat the leaves I made the tea from. I pick 5-7, 6" leaves a day. It regenerates cells.

I know a few people who had the surgery and lifted something too heavy once and had to have the surgery again. They were happy with the surgery. One was a neighbor with 9 kids.

I would also suggest a good chiropractor in case childbirth caused a misalignment issue in your spine. John Bergman on youtube teaches some very interesting insights on this subject. My sis in law had to have a hysterectomy and she was a mail driver. I think having a foot on the pedal all day could have misaligned her spine and created the circulation issues. Just throwing that out there. She is super fit, strong, amazing body. My spouse's family are physically capable of wonders. I do not have that type of body.

Lugols iodine drops in the vagina reset the uterus hormone and does wonders. I use one of those tiny sample spoons and put 3 drops up there, while on my back on a towel. Pretty messy. Iodine lowers selenium so be aware of that in your diet. Low selenium causes cancer to grow.

I use 20 mule team borax, a pinch a day in my water that I drink, and chanca piedra to keep from getting kidney stones as borax releases calcium out of soft tissue, wonderful to heal arthritis and joint issues. Borax affects hormones and when I get it right I don't have to pluck hairs on my face . ( mid 60's)

Vitamin d-3 and K-2 help process calcium and also horsetail herb.

I can't remember it all but you can pick and choose what you want to try. If you try emerita, use progesterone first and be patient it might cause distress at first but well worth it. Blessings, Charity

Prolapse Pelvic Support Belt | Gave Me Confidence to Get Back to Life (braceability.com) I have not used this but read the reviewers, they seem happy and it supports all three organs that fall. Remember you have to treat the cause or it can get worse. Pain sucks.

For anyone not wanting to use capsules, an easy way to swallow powder doses is to make a cream-cheese bon-bon.

Use firm cream cheese (or vegan version) scoop with a soup spoon, empty your powder into the middle, then put more cheese on top. Can be swallowed in one gulp. I use garlic and herb as it seems able to mask unpleasant tastes.

Hi. I used castor oil for constipation (it helped0 but it caused bleeding (from somewhere). It would be better to use castor oil externally on the belly with a heating pad. You can find complete instructions on the internet.

HEY DEIDRE... I'm sorry I confused your post with what Jennifer posted. As you see, I remarked about "toxic bowel" to her. Because hidden sources of MSG stimulate nerve cells, maybe it affects the ligaments that hold organs in place. I don't know but if I have the money to alter the probiotics like I did I have good results. I have very limited income. I happened to have stool softeners on hand that I had purchased for our dog. It is ONLY when I have to use them that I experience prolapse. Everyone is different and will react in a different way to hidden sources of manufactured glutamic acid.

It makes me sad that I can't afford to have a dog anymore :-( :-(

Just a word of caution about the "bladder" prolapse, which is really not the bladder. It is an accumulation of stool pushing against the vaginal wall that needs to be expelled. The tampon use is a temporary thing and helps push the stool, sometimes gas, out.

Hi Lynn, Tampons are not "huge" and if they are inserted correctly, you don't even know they're there. Since I posted last, I've given a lot of thought to what Deidre advised...she was right. That "bulge" or what is said to be your bladder is not. It is stool accumulating in the rectum and pressing against the vaginal wall.

Taking 1/2 tsp. dry mustard in 1/2 C cool water first thing in the morning, on an empty stomach, before breakfast helps a lot, but you still may need to manually push the prolapse back. I sometimes put Witch Hazel on toilet paper to shove it back.

As I have used one or two tampons for temporary "alignment" it helped the stool get back on track to stay in a tract for expulsion. Since my posts over two years ago, even in my old age, I seem to have had success in "shrinking" the rectum a little so a lot of stool does not accumulate (don't sit for long periods). I make a tea of 1/4 tsp. turmeric and 2/4-1/2 tsp. ginger and try to drink this a couple times a day. It can cause some bleeding but these both are reported to fight cancer.

I also learned that I have experienced intussusception, where the small intestines, colon and rectum can "telescope" anywhere along the tract and contributes to constipation. When this occurred, I stretched my "pipeline" so much, it became the same as excess skin when someone loses a lot of weight. I've had four colonoscopies and was told I had a torturous colon. I am done having those because the preparation is torturous due to the hidden sources of MSG.

If you just keep pushing the prolapse back, you're only causing stool to accumulate in the lower part of the rectum and, depending on what you eat, it could become malignant. Additional vitamin C can act as a stool softener or I have alternated two brands of probiotics, on occasion. I do not want to spend the rest of my life with a colostomy.

If you look at a diagram of the colon and rectum you will observe that just before the anus there are areas where stool can accumulate and, due to the "bends" can cut off circulation that would allow gangrene to occur.

This is only my opinion due to what I've experienced. If meals are spaced five to six hours apart with only water in between, this also helps with the much needed elimination to avoid prolapse.

There is a reason the gelatin capsules of the stool softeners contributed to my prolapse that I cannot put into words right now. I hope some of this information will help you.

Hi! My name is Roseanna. I have had pelvic prolapse of my bladder off and on for several years. Of late it is worse. I believe some heavy lifting caused it to worsen. And been terribly stressed with family issues. Saw my Gyno Dr and he put me on antibiotics, and referred me to a Uro Gyno Dr. We decided to wait on that consult as I asked if there was Pelvic Floor PT. I am loving it so far but it is slow and I want the cystocele to just improve like it has so often before. I would love the underwear. I am used to walking 2 miles several times a week but can't right now as I think it could make the prolapse worse. I am not giving up and will reverse this comdition with every natural healthy tool I can find! So am loving all the posts.

Dear El,

I use gelatin capsules with nutmeg in them for my bladder prolapse, and it helps me so much. Gelatin capsules (vegetarian or not) may affect some for the worse, but not everyone.

Holly

Update for problems with prolapse

Hi Trish,

I was just reviewing the thread on prolapse and wanted to report an update. I no longer have a problem as long as I do not ingest a capsule. I bite the capsule if I take Flaxseed Oil or d3 if I haven't been in the sun. I have been opening the capsules for serrapeptase and pouring contents in a mouthful of water or fold contents into some unsweetened applesauce. I will occasionally take Bromelain in the capsule and always experience a little prolapse.

KT

I am suprised not to find rebounding (or trampolining as we call it here in Europe), mentioned more often on this site. I discovered it a while ago when I was trying to diminish my myopia. Rebounding works for a lot of ailments and is a great way to exercise too. First I bought a cheap one in a sports shop and after that a more expensive one from my optometrist. I really prefer the second one and never use the first one anymore although the second one is many times more expensive. I would say that if you didn't try the better ones you will be perfectly happy with the cheaper version. I bought a great exercise DVD (a pity one can't name products here) and I really have great fun. Many times I just play some CD I like and do the moves I want. If the weather is good I do it outside on the terrace. I would really recommend this kind of exercise to anybody, young and old and if you have children this is also a great way to have fun and stay healthy and fit at the same time! The benefits of rebounding are huge, you can look them up on the Internet. I couldn't believe it that I had never heard of it other than as a play tool for children.

Hello Leanne,

There are two women who reversed their stage 3 prolapse using holistic remedies that addressed the root causes. Some of which involve scar tissue remediation (scar tissue myofascial release), specific exercises called the Hypopressive method, skeletal misalignment treatments, diet, essential oils, steaming, etc....

1. https://moonrise.health/i-healed-prolapsed-naturally/

Filippa Odevall, Co-Founder.

2. https://www.wholewoman.com

Christine Kent, RN, Founder - resolves skeletal misalignment as a cause.

I hope their experiences and cures offer further inspiration and insight to you!

What do you think about this article in regard to the side effects of DHEA: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/03/19/the-most-common-mistakes-in-bioidentical-hormone-replacement.aspx

I hesitate using a DHEA capsule as they all have a filler such as rice flour. Any suggestions from anyone?

Hi Trish, I see you're from the same state as me, NC and it was very interesting reading about your experiences. I'm in my late seventies and have had a prolapse for two years but it hasn't been a problem until just three weeks ago. Since then it has given me much discomfort and a lot of bleeding. The one thing I worry about is that the Cystocele will drop right out of my vagina and it scares me. I'm always pushing it back but it comes right down again. I went for a routine doctor appt. last week and she wants me to see a gyno-urology Dr.but I've decided I'm going to try treating it myself first. I just ordered some homeopathic medicine for the urinary tract, and some natural estrogen cream to strengthen the tissues around the vaginal opening, but don't know if it's going to work.

I love reading all the posts on this site and feel so much better knowing I'm not the only one who suffers with this condition. What women have to go through with child birth and everything else is unbelievable. I had five children and suppose it took its toll on my body....along with all the heavy lifting. However, at my age...eighty in a couple of months....I'm in pretty good shape and have been a fitness instructor for seniors for over twenty years. However I worry that I may have to give it up if this problem of mine isn't resolved. I teach strength training classes and low impact aerobics, so needless to say I've been very active.

I just wish I had the information that someone mentioned about the device worn underneath the underwear to hold everything in place?

Anyone having any advice for me based on my situation would be greatly appreciated. You are all an inspiration to me. Thanks to everyone.

What is the title of the book ? Would like to know more.. Thanks

"Saving the Whole Woman" by Christine Kent RN

www.wholewoman.com

Hi everyone,

I just found out I have a prolapsed bladder and rectum and am finding a lot of useful info. Thanks for that. No one has mentioned using a Squatty Potty and I think that would really help, especially if it isn't really the bladder, but pooping that is the problem. Has anyone used one and seen results?

Linda,

I would like to retract my statement about the Squatty Potty. I have been reading other forums and it has been recommended frequently.

I looked it up today and read many reviews on "A" and it sounds like it will work really well! I ordered one and it will arrive in 2 days. Can't wait to try it out. People say that they thought they were eliminating completely until they got One and now they realize they weren't.

It's like a little stool where you raise your legs up to align your body correctly to eliminate while sitting on your commode. You are not squatting down. Hope this helps.

Good luck to you and God Bless.

Trish

The book is mentioned above. Christine Kent.

I have been following her advice since my uterus dropped slightly outside my vagina. The exercises had it back inside in just a few days. I still have a bit of cystocele and am happy to read about the witch hazel ideas.

Thank you for this post on red raspbery leaf tea. How do you dry your leaves for the least amount of mold spores?

Iso sensuals TIGHT

I just found this site and wanted to see if the witch hazel is still working. Been trying to figure out a solution for bladder prolapse for many years (I've had 9 babies and I need something! ).

There is not enough time to wait for regeneration to "lift" and try to heal placement. In my opinion and in my experience tampons provide immediate placement and can give the ligaments a better time to attach and heal while holding in place. I don't have to do it often. This last problem was caused by taking 2 Serrapeptase in capsules early in the morning. After eating a Bromelain in capsule then about 3-4 hours later I took 2 stool softeners in capsules. This combo, even though spaced apart caused very uncomfortable prolapse.

One nutmeg capsule a day helps me with bladder prolapse very much. You can't find them in stores, though. You have to buy the capsules empty and buy nutmeg at the store and fill them yourself. But it is worth it. I take it first thing in the morning, with or without food. I don't know how long it took to notice results, but if I miss a few days I notice the prolapse getting worse.

I'm sorry, I cannot provide details but when I was in communication with those fighting the FDA about MSG issues I had been informed that gelatin is made from bone. During the manufacturing process, glutamic acid is created and is a nerve stimulant that can stimulate some nerve cells to death, depending how sensitive you are which is determined on how your mother ate while she was pregnant with you. Glutamic acid is naturally occurring BUT when it is a consequence of manufacture it is toxic to many. It is just not recognized. The medical profession is not keeping up with what is happening to our food. More money is wasted on "research" to find cures instead of eliminating the probable cause. It took me over twenty years to learn about the ramifications of processed free glutamic acid but by the process of elimination I learned. I hope this helps. There is a website you could go, and I have seen it listed in other posts here, but I don't know if it is permitted and I wouldn't want this post to be deleted. I will also mention that I had a breech vaginal delivery many years ago but I never experienced any prolapse until I ingested the gelatin capsules.

Hi again Jennifer, I don't know whether I replied to you here, in response to your post, or if it was another place... Where Deidre responded. I have to work on this piecemeal. I'm not real familiar with this site and what I read I cannot remember all so I don't know if posts are categorized. I confused what Deidre said as coming from you... What she said is also true. I think the two issues relate to each other. Where the ligaments are weakened and not keeping things in place, it seems that stool collects (it was reported that I have a "very tortuous colon") and can begin to ferment. If I get over 100lbs. I know I'm full of... impacted fecal matter and I'm fortunate to have the time needed to evacuate completely. Sometimes it takes a very long time because nerve cells are dead that would prompt elimination. I'm sure I must be a candidate for a colostomy but I don't want to live the rest of my life like that.

to Kathy -- very interesting about gelatin capsules and a prolapsed bladder! I consume a lot of supplements in capsule form every day and didn't think twice about it! Is there any place I can research this further? I have started to dump the contents out into a smoothie now. Thanks for your postings.

Hi Claudine, I only learned what the gelatin capsules were doing to me because of trying to avoid msg in our food. This has been over a twenty-year endeavor during which I have learned much. I don't believe anyone else has reported this effect from gelatin capsules. I reported this to the friend who helped me become aware of the damaging effects of hidden msg in our food. The piecemeal process of elimination over the years is all the confirmation I need to know the gelatin capsules caused my problem. If I have to use stool softeners and begin to feel the prolapse I use a super plus tampon for a few hours during which I "tuck and squeeze" while walking around. Before I discovered it was the gelatin capsules I had to use two of the super plus tampons. Ingestion of other sources of msg could certainly contribute. With what is being done to our food it is nearly impossible to avoid.

Constipation: Having a prolapsed bladder and fighting with constipation off and on all my life, I found that rather than using stool softners, I have had very good luck with a product that contains Psyllium husk, Psyllium seed, Marshmallow root, Slippery Elm bark, and Aloe Vera leaf. I like it better than anything else I've tried. (better than Metamucil which I used previously) It comes in a powder form so no worry about the gelatin capsules. Hope this helps some of you that also have constipation issues.

Have you tried chiropractic adjustment/alignment? I would definitely recommend it. Experience is teaching me that an imbalanced hip is affecting our organ.

Hi again Claudine, I've been wondering if you had thought about using food that contains the vitamins/minerals that you need instead of the supplements. That's what I've been trying to do but our food has been changing and that's affecting the supplements too.

I have struggled with constipation and prolapse for 30 years. I had two surgeries which are ineffective soon after so I have just put up with it, trying to limit my lifting, which usually is what bothers me. I have used psyllium powder for years but in the last 2 years found that aloe vera juice helps soften my stool. Some tastes terrible but I found a brand (starts with G) that tastes like water. I add it to my smoothies and my lemon water that I carry with me all day. I have learned how much to put in to avoid loose stools but seldom have hard stools any more, depending on what I have eaten.

Google "pelvic balls" to strengthen and hold your bladder up in place...works well!! Also, calcium bentonite clay to cleanse the bowel, liver, gall bladder.

Thank you all so much for these great posts and info, have learned so much! Am going to get off the couch, which has only been making things worse, and the people I know with this problem only recommend surgery which I don't want to do especially because all of them are worse off with their surgeries, I certainly did not want that to be my alternative! Please let me know more about the prolapse support under garment. so glad I found you guys, and bless you

Dear Marie,

I found this when I Googled "prolapse support underwear" I trust using the tampons...sometimes just an hour, sometimes longer. By my personal "clinical observation" I found that the gelatin capsule is what causes my prolapse. If I had not been involved with a consumer group a couple decades ago I would have never learned this fact. Everyone is different but I know this causes mine. It started with using the stool softeners.

Now, I alternate one of my probiotics that comes in a capsule. When I open the capsule and empty the contents in some food, I don't have a problem. If I take the entire capsule I will experience prolapse.

Deidre from Sydney, Australia is who brought the "toxic bowel" to my attention...my "prolapse" is accumulating stool. I used to have frequent UTI's and a problem with yeast until she advised me.

KT

Dear El,

Yes they can. I cannot take the serrapeptase in the non-gelatin vegetable capsule and not experience a problem with prolapsed "bladder".

KT

I have this problem plus a few others. I have noticed some helps along the way. I had physical therapy and kegals and that was helpful but other issues added complications to the mix. Hormone creams helped with muscle tone and then magnesium and vit D also helped balance the hormones. The battle is still on for me but I walk daily and keep constipation under control as it wreaks havok on the pelvic floor and toxicity. I am trying to get rid of hepatic liver cysts that are putting a load on my core at the moment with milk thistle and alfalfa tablets. I had cysts removal surgery but it didn't work. I love my inversion table to get the bladder to go up for a break from the pressure. Recently bought an exercise ball to sit on to use core muscles and it is less painfull to sit on than a chair. On bad days I use my pessary from my Ob/Gyn....hope that helps... Let me know if you find any answers.

Joy, I read in "Latest Posts" a problem you were having with painful prolapse. I could not reply right away and when I came back to search for that post I could not locate it. I wanted to warn you that the painful "bulge" you feel may not be just your bladder. It could be a build up of stool that is collecting in your colon/rectum and pressing against your vaginal wall. Using one or two super plus tampons dipped in witch hazel and/or some lubricating jelly for that dryness can push the "prolapse" back so you are able to expel the stool...even gas can contribute to the bulge. If you cannot get the stool out it can either become malignant or gangrene can develop.