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Recently, I had a very long day and realized my bladder wasn't low or bothering me. Then I realized it hadn't been bothering me for a couple of weeks. I am pretty sure it is because of Red Raspberry Leaf tea! I started drinking this tea daily several months ago since it is so good for the female system. I have been drinking LOTS of it--3-4 cups a day, faithfully! It is the only thing different that I have been doing. Today I checked a favorite book of mine, "Practical Herbalism. " Sure enough, in the description of Red Raspberry, the author references a older book that talked about using Red Raspberry Leaf for pelvic prolapse!
I was figuring I would just have to have surgery to get everything fixed "up. " But I know people that have done that and had less than wonderful results. Plus, I don't really want to have surgery.
This is a slow way to heal a problem and my problem isn't as severe as it could have been, but it is a cheap and easy and safe and healthy solution for an uncomfortable problem.
If you try this, use mostly Red Raspberry Leaf in your tea. You can also add in some nettle and alfalfa for nutrition or some kind of mint for flavor. I mix my own dry herbs. Then I put 3 T. of the herb mixture in a quart jar and pour boiling water over it. I let it steep for 15 minutes. (Do not keep on the heat. ) Then I strain out the herbs and sweeten. I drank almost a quart a day for months. You can buy tea bags and use 3 - 4 a day, making sure to steep for 15 minutes to extract the maximum benefit from the herbs. Lots of pregnancy teas or women's teas will have lots of red raspberry leaf in them if you don't want to bother making your own mix.
Just for completeness, I do eat healthy, whole foods, made a home, not a lot of sugar, lots of water (including Apple Cider Vinegar, but I have done that for years. ) I also try to get out and walk several times a week, just a mile or so. I do think keeping the muscles strong is important and would like to get more and better excercise, but I am kind of busy raising kids. :)
Hope that helps someone!
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Also, I found the comments about witch hazel very interesting & plan to try that as well! I say, try everything that doesn't sound too wacky! Good luck & lovely healing energy to all of you, my "sistahs".
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I have a grade 3 bladder prolapse. A pessary, tampons, etc/etc/etc did not work for me. No leakage, just bladder protruding to vaginal lips. Yuck. My daughter uses a menstrual sponge. I wondered if it would work for my bladder prolapse. I bought a natural sponge, cut it to what I thought might hold up my bladder. LOL Several tries later I had found the right size of sponge that completely and utterly held my bladder up. After several uses I found the sponge irritated my insides (blood on sponge), so I added a lubricant (flax oil, replens, sliquid). They all work really well. I have several sponges that I now use almost daily. My favourite one is actually a natural sponge used for painting, of all things. You can get it at Michael's. I sew thread on the sponge so I can retrieve it easily. I lubricate the sponge on the outside, draw all edges together, and then insert in to vagina as far up as I can and pull the thread down as I retract my fingers. My bladder is completely held up way past the vaginal area. It does not slip out. I can't feel it as the sponge is so light. It has been a life saver for me. Wash sponge after use with soapy water, or Dawn. I microwave for 1 minute every two weeks to kill any bacteria that may linger on the sponge.
Try it! You might like it.
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I have a grade 3 bladder prolapse. A pessary, tampons, etc/etc/etc did not work for me. No leakage, just bladder protruding to vaginal lips. Yuck. My daughter uses a menstrual sponge. I wondered if it would work for my bladder prolapse. I bought a natural sponge, cut it to what I thought might hold up my bladder. LOL Several tries later I had found the right size of sponge that completely and utterly held my bladder up. After several uses I found the sponge irritated my insides (blood on sponge), so I added a lubricant (flax oil, replens, sliquid). They all work really well. I have several sponges that I now use almost daily. My favourite one is actually a natural sponge used for painting, of all things. You can get it at Michael's. I sew thread on the sponge so I can retrieve it easily. I lubricate the sponge on the outside, draw all edges together, and then insert in to vagina as far up as I can and pull the thread down as I retract my fingers. My bladder is completely held up way past the vaginal area. It does not slip out. I can't feel it as the sponge is so light. It has been a life saver for me. Wash sponge after use with soapy water, or Dawn. I microwave for 1 minute every two weeks to kill any bacteria that may linger on the sponge.
Try it! You might like it.
A few things you could try - nutmeg. It helped me with frequency urges. I would take 1/4 teaspoon in the morning. Another thing that I think is even better is Red Raspberry Leaf tea. Drinking a couple of glasses of strong red raspberry leaf tea help keep the entire female system toned. Have you ever seen a physical therapist who specializes in pelvic floor? I found a good one and she helped me so much. Unfortunately, I did not find her until after I had surgery. I had pelvic prolapse surgery (basically reconstructive surgery two years ago (I was 53). I did not feel like the urologist was very honest with me. She called it a "procedure" and it was outpatient and she did not prepare me for how difficult recovery would be.
I have had many surgeries over the years (jaw surgery, laparoscopic surgery, exploratory abdominal surgery, etc.) and recovery from pelvic prolapse surgery was by far the worst of the worst. The pain lasted for a year, until I went to the pelvic floor PT. I had to use a catheter to empty my bladder for weeks after surgery. I had burning pelvic pain for a very long time. Two years later when my bladder is tired it definitely drops down again, even though I do my exercises every day. But the red raspberry leaf tea helps a lot (I just get lazy about drinking it.) Maybe your surgery wouldn't be as extensive, and maybe your urologist is better than mine was. Just ask a lot of questions. My PT said I should have gotten PT after surgery, but my urologist had not suggested it.
I wish you well!
~Mama to Many~
Bladder Prolapse Support
Thank you for taking time to write and to tell your story! I hope you find the red raspberry leaf tea and nutmeg very helpful.
Let me know how it goes!
~Mama to Many~
Witch Hazel
Has anyone tried to use witch hazel over a long period of time for prolapsed bladder. I use it topically for rashes and skin tags from 3-episiotomies that the skin couldn't hold the stitches and now are little skin tags, so fun..... NOT!
I know witch hazel is used to shrink hemmorhoids, in suppositories... I use it to tighten skin on my face, especially around the eyes. Basically love the stuff.
Been trying to put it in the vaginal cavity with finger and get bladder to go back up.
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The product on Amazon is also a plant astringent they claim TIGHTENS cavity and aids in prolapse recovery....
I hope all the other women out there can find this post and get some relief from the pain of prolapse. Don't know how to get this FREE good news out ..... Not selling anything... Tried to get a women's site to post it but they are selling surgery and sorrow... So..... No post!
EC: Hi Joy, please send us the name or link from Amazon for posting on EC.
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DHEA
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FOR ME , DHEA seems to even out other hormones and energy levels go up. Also firmer muscles.
I use a little progesterone cream on facial skin that looks aged and it looks more youthful with just a dab.( the half of a split pea for size, amount of cream) I use for outings , when I want to look my best.
MSM is also very helpful for skin, new hair growth , and muscle with VITAMIN C
My physical therapist talked me into stopping my uphill walks while going through therapy using kegals and kegals did not solve any problems . If you are already able to walk , DON'T STOP!!!
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Sunbathing
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Sunbathing has helped me and getting the sun close to the problem helps even more.... my prolapse is rarely painful like it was, since frequent sunbathing (2015-2016), not burning...but 15 -30 minutes at the right hours for healthy vitamin D. It helps many hormonal systems and heals skin issues (vitilligo) and I feel better. I also tan slightly under arm pits and under breast where sun rarely shines and cancers tend to form.
Tampons
I am so sorry to hear it. Prolapse is miserable.
I have found that drinking 3-4 cups of red raspberry leaf tea daily does help with prolapse.
Also, I go to a physical therapist that specializes in prolapse. She has helped me a lot.
~Mama to Many~
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
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DHEA
Witch Hazel
Previously I reported my GI tract rupture then discovering intussusception and the sever between the anal canal and colon. Both of my babies had been breech but only one was cesarean. So, I am full of adhesions due to multiple surgeries. The reason I am saying all this again is because sources of MSG, especially capsules cause prolapse. The capsule alone was tested and was reported to be about 14 mg. of MSG.
I am in my 70's, weigh 100 lbs. and have no problem with prolapse until I ingest capsules. When prolapse occurs I use a tampon for a few hours or overnight. THIS REALLY DOES WORK. When my husband was alive, before he became ill, sometimes he helped (I don't think I have to detail how! ). C'mon ladies, try the tampons. In discovering this fact I sometimes had to use two but that was several years ago before I totally cleaned up my diet and had massive prolapse.
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I am not at all an expert, but I wanted to pass along this information as I feel it is vital for everyone to learn about how to heal our bodies and live in the most natural way possible. I follow Katy Bowman's blog for this reason. She is a biomechanist, mother, and natural movement specialist that has dedicated her life to helping people understand and use their bodies in the most mechanically appropriate way. Two blog posts specifically address pressure issues like prolapse, here:
http://www.alignedandwell.com/katysays/under-pressure-part-1/
And
http://www.alignedandwell.com/katysays/push-em-out-push-em-out/
To summarize very briefly, she explains how and why our organs may be pushed out of their normal spaces and talks about steps to rectify these issues. Some people will find relief by letting go of internal pressure (which may be harder than it sounds), aligning your body appropriately (which is NOT the same as posture! ), and strengthening your pelvic floor (not tightening! ) I believe that diet, supplements, kegels, gentle exercise and other remedies can also play a part in healing this unfortunate condition. The information she presents is vast and thorough, with many conditions connecting together as our body parts are connected. I encourage anyone to check out her information and see how she can help you.
Please know that this will be very intensive and mindful work, as it is unraveling years (decades) of habits that have accumulated in unbalanced loads on the body. You might need to follow up with someone who is familiar with the issues presented. Katy's blog is filled with free, useful information, but she also runs an educational business dedicated to teaching better practices to movement specialists like yoga and Pilates instructors, doulas and midwives, physical therapists and chiropractors, and more. There may be someone in your area that can help you on your journey to overcome prolapse. She is not the only one teaching this information, but I don't know anyone else specifically.
I suggest starting with these two blog posts and then moving on to the posts directed towards the pelvic floor in general. The information is practically unlimited and affects issues like back pain, foot and leg pain, pregnancy issues, balance, digestion, exercise pain, carpal tunnel syndrome, bunions, and it goes on and on.
I hope someone gets relief by reading this.
I would start on colonics, eating prunes, caster oil, start juicing and go on a raw food diet because raw foods contain digestive enzymes.
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In my opinion fresher is no longer better. I get frozen or canned vegetables without salt (the flowing agent in salt is another hidden culprit). Salt is not the problem... It is the flowing/anti-caking agent. I use sea salt. The frozen or canned is blanched at their peak so I feel they are better for you. I feel we have grown up eating things that our body has been "conditioned" to tolerate or build up an immunity to. No proof of this... Just my reasoning. I no longer get the extra large eggs. I get medium and I only buy eggs in the cardboard cartons. The yolks seem to have a richer yellow/orange color and I am better able to keep my weight down, which I had struggled with for years. I now limit my eggs and meat consumption because they contain more carbohydrates than they used to. I get the 2% milk in glass bottles because it is safer even though I have to limit that because of the "carb" content NOW.
As far as toxic bowels... For the last few years I have been taking 1/2 tsp. dry mustard in 1/2 Cup cold water first thing in the morning, on an empty stomach to "prime the pump" for bowel evacuation. Mustard is an antiseptic and someone on this site posted they had to use mustard instead of antibiotics. I don't remember where that post was or what I was looking up. There is no doubt that the capsules cause my prolapse because when I stop ingesting them, my prolapse subsides.
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Lynn
Multiple Remedies
Get in touch with your emotions, heal your memories, work on decreasing day to day stress in your life. Keep positive affirmations and love yourself well. Nourishment will help but if you stay in survival mode you won't recover.
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Witch Hazel
I AM SOOOOO THANKFUL TO HAVE RELIEF!!! Hope this helps all you fellow sufferers out there!
Been doing one application midday. There is a product that tightens the vagina with another plant astringent on amazon available. Witch hazel is less expensive. Plan to try some jojoba oil with it next.
Witch Hazel
One more thing that helps a LOT is magnesium citrate.
Witch Hazel
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Tampons
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DHEA
Lots of prayer
I had a digestion disorder and it has taken a lot of things to sort that out, it was the main piece of the puzzle. Digestive enzymes . I switched to low cost mail order company~ swan--- due to low senior income. Saving a small fortune .
L-taurine to displace MSG
Magnesium citrate and just switched to a triple magnesium supplement, D-3+K-2, Natural vitamin E, fish oil capsule, vitamin C, garlic oil, milk thistle for liver detox, Horsetail for silica, B complex, Alpha lipoic acid, TMG for liver also, MSM for skin hair organs and blood, Molybdenum for liver, Veggies 4 life, Bone building formula, N-Acetyl Cysteine for immune health.Ginko leaf, Apple cider vinegar with honey in water, soy lecithin granules heaping tsp.Magtein (L-threonate for memory)
The above once a day, then every other day I add selenium, biotin, folic acid, a mix of amino acids
Also once a week borax foot soak to regulate hormones, and add to the mineral mix, probably going to use more low dose lithium too, when I get around to it.
My goal is to one day only need these on occasion, but until health is complete, I am being diligent. Stay hydrated with pink salt and water.
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Rebounding
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However, there are many comments saying that the cystocele is not the bladder, but the rectum protruding in the vagina. This is NOT correct. They are two completely different issues. The protrusion of the rectum in the vagina is called a RECTOCELE and is a POSTERIOR PROLAPSE and the protrusion of the bladder is a CYSTOCELE and is a ANTERIOR PROLAPSE.
I had surgery for a RECTOCELE 30 years ago when I was in my 20's (large babies and constipation problems during that period of my life, and also had my uterus removed during the same surgery as the RECTOCELE). They did not use mesh, but did use the muscles from my uterus to "rebuild" the posterior wall. The surgery was extremely painful, but in the 30 years since, I never had any problems.
About 2 months ago my bladder became very uncomfortable....stage 3 cystocele. The pessaries did not work, and pressure from exercise or lifting made it protrude further. I am now 2 weeks post op from cystocele repair. I was just told that I have some residual bladder drop but it is much better than it was. How disappointing...the surgery was much easier and less painful than the rectocele was, but was hoping the problem was fixed.
I was very happy to find this site with natural remedies that I am looking forward to trying once I am healed from surgery. I usually do things the natural way, eat healthy and live a healthy lifestyle..too bad I didn't see this site before.
Good luck and blessings to all of you!
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Yoga Exercises
I just found out I have a prolapsed bladder and rectum and am finding a lot of useful info. Thanks for that. No one has mentioned using a Squatty Potty and I think that would really help, especially if it isn't really the bladder, but pooping that is the problem. Has anyone used one and seen results?
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I would like to retract my statement about the Squatty Potty. I have been reading other forums and it has been recommended frequently.
I looked it up today and read many reviews on "A" and it sounds like it will work really well! I ordered one and it will arrive in 2 days. Can't wait to try it out. People say that they thought they were eliminating completely until they got One and now they realize they weren't.
It's like a little stool where you raise your legs up to align your body correctly to eliminate while sitting on your commode. You are not squatting down. Hope this helps.
Good luck to you and God Bless.
Trish
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I have been following her advice since my uterus dropped slightly outside my vagina. The exercises had it back inside in just a few days. I still have a bit of cystocele and am happy to read about the witch hazel ideas.
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Red Raspberry Leaf
Witch Hazel
I would encourage you to go to youtube and watch Eric Berg on cortisol because stress is what led to my health issues and if I could have known I might have avoided a lot of suffering.
Here are my favorites ....faith that I am overcoming is number one because prolapse is very uncomfortable. Sit on a core ball to get relief. One pain trick is Oscillococcinum relieves body pain. Another is if you get in the bathtub up to your neck it tricks your body to think the pain is coming from a larger area and feels very relaxing. Drink water, water surrounding our skin pulls water out of our body.( prune fingers) MSM and Vitamin C for tissue repairs.
I use emerita phytoestrogen cream and progesterone cream in small amounts. I use progesterone inside the vagina and estrogen above the pubic hair line. I do this every day after a shower. For me it's the size of a pea of each one. I know if I miss a day.
I also use dhea 10mg one every four days to counter cortisol.
I can say I haven't tried castor oil packs on it but castor oil works on face pain, mouth pain, liver pain, stomach pain, back pain. Nicknamed palm of Christ. Messy miracle oil.
Currently, I am using a lot of comfrey, I make tea and then eat the leaves I made the tea from. I pick 5-7, 6" leaves a day. It regenerates cells.
I know a few people who had the surgery and lifted something too heavy once and had to have the surgery again. They were happy with the surgery. One was a neighbor with 9 kids.
I would also suggest a good chiropractor in case childbirth caused a misalignment issue in your spine. John Bergman on youtube teaches some very interesting insights on this subject. My sis in law had to have a hysterectomy and she was a mail driver. I think having a foot on the pedal all day could have misaligned her spine and created the circulation issues. Just throwing that out there. She is super fit, strong, amazing body. My spouse's family are physically capable of wonders. I do not have that type of body.
Lugols iodine drops in the vagina reset the uterus hormone and does wonders. I use one of those tiny sample spoons and put 3 drops up there, while on my back on a towel. Pretty messy. Iodine lowers selenium so be aware of that in your diet. Low selenium causes cancer to grow.
I use 20 mule team borax, a pinch a day in my water that I drink, and chanca piedra to keep from getting kidney stones as borax releases calcium out of soft tissue, wonderful to heal arthritis and joint issues. Borax affects hormones and when I get it right I don't have to pluck hairs on my face . ( mid 60's)
Vitamin d-3 and K-2 help process calcium and also horsetail herb.
I can't remember it all but you can pick and choose what you want to try. If you try emerita, use progesterone first and be patient it might cause distress at first but well worth it. Blessings, Charity
Witch Hazel
Multiple Remedies
Use firm cream cheese (or vegan version) scoop with a soup spoon, empty your powder into the middle, then put more cheese on top. Can be swallowed in one gulp. I use garlic and herb as it seems able to mask unpleasant tastes.
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
It makes me sad that I can't afford to have a dog anymore :-( :-(
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Taking 1/2 tsp. dry mustard in 1/2 C cool water first thing in the morning, on an empty stomach, before breakfast helps a lot, but you still may need to manually push the prolapse back. I sometimes put Witch Hazel on toilet paper to shove it back.
As I have used one or two tampons for temporary "alignment" it helped the stool get back on track to stay in a tract for expulsion. Since my posts over two years ago, even in my old age, I seem to have had success in "shrinking" the rectum a little so a lot of stool does not accumulate (don't sit for long periods). I make a tea of 1/4 tsp. turmeric and 2/4-1/2 tsp. ginger and try to drink this a couple times a day. It can cause some bleeding but these both are reported to fight cancer.
I also learned that I have experienced intussusception, where the small intestines, colon and rectum can "telescope" anywhere along the tract and contributes to constipation. When this occurred, I stretched my "pipeline" so much, it became the same as excess skin when someone loses a lot of weight. I've had four colonoscopies and was told I had a torturous colon. I am done having those because the preparation is torturous due to the hidden sources of MSG.
If you just keep pushing the prolapse back, you're only causing stool to accumulate in the lower part of the rectum and, depending on what you eat, it could become malignant. Additional vitamin C can act as a stool softener or I have alternated two brands of probiotics, on occasion. I do not want to spend the rest of my life with a colostomy.
If you look at a diagram of the colon and rectum you will observe that just before the anus there are areas where stool can accumulate and, due to the "bends" can cut off circulation that would allow gangrene to occur.
This is only my opinion due to what I've experienced. If meals are spaced five to six hours apart with only water in between, this also helps with the much needed elimination to avoid prolapse.
There is a reason the gelatin capsules of the stool softeners contributed to my prolapse that I cannot put into words right now. I hope some of this information will help you.
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
I use gelatin capsules with nutmeg in them for my bladder prolapse, and it helps me so much. Gelatin capsules (vegetarian or not) may affect some for the worse, but not everyone.
Holly
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Hi Trish,
I was just reviewing the thread on prolapse and wanted to report an update. I no longer have a problem as long as I do not ingest a capsule. I bite the capsule if I take Flaxseed Oil or d3 if I haven't been in the sun. I have been opening the capsules for serrapeptase and pouring contents in a mouthful of water or fold contents into some unsweetened applesauce. I will occasionally take Bromelain in the capsule and always experience a little prolapse.
KT
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I am going to be checked by a specialist and may need surgery. It is much more pronounced when I am tired. I have Sjogren's which makes me constipated. I used to be able to strenghthen my bladder with Kegels, but it is just getting worse as I get closer to 60.
Rebounding
Rebounding