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I had a stage 2 cystocele and it improved about 90% with the following:
Daily kegel exercises, as many as possible. Start slowly and work up to 10-20 an hour. I added a vaginal exerciser for resistance, it made a big difference
Acupuncture, 3 times a week! over 2 months, plus herbs to build blood (had hemorrhaged postpartum which had made me very weak). This made a huge difference but it has to be frequent. In China they'd have daily treatment.
Jin Shin Jyutsu ( a form of acupressure) self help and sessions with the same purpose of increasing the ascending energy which hold organs in place. Work on spleen, umbilicus, kidney meridians etc. This is a good substitute if acupuncture is unaffordable, as you can do it yourself.
Yoga, all inverted poses and forward bends with breath work. I took some private Yoga lessons for this problem and it does help.
And of course good nutrition to nourish blood and overall energy. Exhaustion and depletion can lead to prolapse - in Chinese Medicine it is known as "collapsed qi".
Good luck!
Multiple Remedies
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Hi
Does anyone know of anything that helps get rid of prolapses?
I've had a prolapse of the bladder for a few years, it's where an organ in my case the bladder, (but it can be other organs like the uterus), falls out of position. In some extreme cases the uterus can come outside of the body, but my case isn't as extreme as that.
I've tried a lot, acupuncture, herbs (chinese and western),arvingo abdominal massage, castor oil packs, visualisation, supplements, maca, bluegreen algae, blackstap just to improve my nutrition and I'm fairly healthy, but it's resistant to any change.
I'd love to hear from anyone out there who was able to do anything about this condition or has any tips. I do worry about what will happen in my forties, whether it will get much worse, lead to another prolapse etc..
Thanks
I heard many years ago that a slant board does wonders for a prolapsed bladder. Please post the results if you try it.
Tampons
I'm in my 70's and have a stage 3 uterine prolapse. I welcome any advise about using a sea sponge for support.
I've tried tampons, and while they do hold everything in place ... which is wonderful ...they become uncomfortable.
Too dense and dry, even with some lubricant on the tip. Since there is more chance of getting a bladder infection when there is a prolapse, I am concerned about the keeping a sponge sanitary. Any insight would be appreciated.
Tampons
Tampons
My doctor didn't suggest any kind of support, however I did find one online, that has also been mentioned on this site. I wear it every day, and it does help to keep the prolapse more contained.
Tampons
Thank you for the raspberry leaf tea idea. There is an herb store near me, so I will make a strong brew and report back the results ... after I try it for a bit.
I went to a physical therapist a couple of years ago, but not one who specialized in prolapse. Didn't realize that there was a speciality.
Bladder Prolapse Support
In Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM), a prolapsed bladder is often attributed to a fundamental imbalance in the body's energy systems, particularly a deficiency or sinking of Qi (vital energy). TCM practitioners approach this condition by aiming to restore the balance of Qi, strengthen the body's energy, and enhance the integrity of the pelvic floor. The focus is on holistic healing, addressing both the physical symptoms and the underlying energy imbalances. From the TCM perspective, prolapsed bladder can be caused by several imbalances. Qi sinking or Qi collapsing is a common cause, where the body's vital energy is weakened, leading to a lack of support for the organs. This condition is often accompanied by symptoms like a bearing-down sensation in the abdomen and chronic diarrhea. Another cause can be Spleen Qi Sinking, where a weak digestive system leads to inadequate energy support, exacerbating pelvic organ prolapse. TCM treatments aim to identify and correct these specific imbalances to alleviate symptoms and prevent recurrence. See a TCM practitioner is my advice.
Bladder Prolapse Support
Bladder Prolapse Support
Are you historectomied or in tact? I am in tact and I am wondering if this makes a difference.
Thank you
Multiple Remedies
Dear Renele,
You know, it really breaks my heart when I see very inexpensive cures made into such expensive ones. The greed is very distressing.
For $100 you could buy enough capsules, a capsule machine, and boric acid to last a year or two.
Alternately, there is a very reputable midwife in North Carolina who sells boric acid capsules for a reasonable price.
I used to buy her Arnica Oil (20 years ago! ) and it was great. (I make my own now.)
Anyway, hopefully you will be able to get what you need for a reasonable price!
~Mama to Many~
Multiple Remedies
Oh honey. Just order boric acid on Amazon.com. I have been buying it online for years....and empty capsules. Get size 00 capsules (gelatin, bovine, whatever) and make your own. It would cost you about $10 for a large bottle of boric acid and about $20 for 200-300 empty capsules. That will last you a long time since you won't be using them every day. BUT, try alkaline water first. It's at your local grocery store and it works. BV is caused by an upset pH balance and once you alkalize your body, then no bacteria can grow. Its much cheaper than anything else out there and it works. I hate to say I am cured because there is no cure for BV, its about keeping the symptoms at bay by keeping your pH balanced.
Yoga Exercises
Yoga Exercises
Yoga Exercises
Please what is the name of the book and what is this posture thing?
Yoga Exercises
What is the name of the book you are referring to? Thanking you in advance for sharing!!! Katrena
Yoga Exercises
You mentioned a posture change requiring a conscious effort and retraining. Can you explain it more?
Yoga Exercises
Since you have tried everything, I was wondering if you or anyone else has tried acupuncture? I read that it may be helpful. How about one of those pessary devices? Searching and looking for help.
Yoga Exercises
What is the title of the book? I'm interested in the posture exercise. Could you copy paste the info on that? Or explain it. Thank you.
Yoga Exercises
Could you give the title and authors of your sources, especially the yoga and prolapse books. Thanks
Yoga Exercises
What is the posture and what are the yoga exercises to correct one's prolapse?
Yoga Exercises
I believe she is referring to "Saving the Whole Woman" by Christine Kent
Red Raspberry Leaf
When I said I make my own, I meant I mix my own tea together but I buy the leaves from reputable sources locally or online. I usually get organic ones.
Red Raspberry Leaf
I got some leaves from a neighbor today, lots of organic garndeners in my area. Did some research online and they said you could glean them from streambeds and dry them and store them. I boiled 2 cups water and put in two leaves and turned off water and let it sit. Tastes good, kinda sweet but not sugary
I buy drying hangers from the dollar store/asian market and a dozen or so clothesline clips hang on a plastic circle from the hanger and I hung a stem of three leafs on each one to dry by the woodstove.
Witch Hazel
Has anyone tried witch hazel for prolapse bladder while fitted with Mirena? And how long should I leave the witch hazel in for? Is there any interaction with the mirena because I tried the witch hazel and now I've started bleeding again.
Witch Hazel
Joy, can you do the witch hazel if you do vegafem cream nightly. ( estrogen cream)?
Witch Hazel
Please send me the brand name of a good Witch Hazel. I am so tired of the pain. Thank you.
Witch Hazel
Charity,
Could you tell me about the underwear that you referred to? Where do you get it, what exactly is it called? Thank you.
Witch Hazel
MSG can be a problem if you are low on L- Taurine, it's antidote.
Witch Hazel
Dear KT, thanks so much for sharing your simple solution. It must sound odd to say this but I'm excited to try it as it seems like a very logical and hopeful solution. Thanks again, surprised you haven't received more feedback.
Witch Hazel
What kind of Witch Hazel are you recommending?? There are toners? Astringents??
Multiple Remedies
Thank you Tamara for the info and I intend to check it all out. I am new to this research about prolapse as I didn't know there was any cure for it. I am in my late seventies and have had a prolapse for about two years now. Amazingly I am a fitness instructor for seniors at a local community center so you'd think I'd be the last person to have problems with a prolapse, considering all the exercises I do....strength training and low impact aerobics. Of course having had five children hasn't helped my internal organs because I had difficult deliveries with most of them. Anyway, I do take a lot of supplements in both capsule form and tablets, but I don't believe the capsules are the culprit. I desperately need to get some relief because I've started having real problems with irritation due to the prolapse being so far down and lately I've had some bleeding too. My husband is pushing me to have surgery but I refuse to go that route. I appreciate all the input from everyone on this site and will be forever grateful for any and all the help I can get. I intend to check out those links you posted, so hopefully my life will be a bit easier if I can get some relief.
Blessings to all.
Multiple Remedies
Dear Mary,
I am in my late sixties. I am sure you have read several of my posts about my breech births and POP. Until you stop ingesting any capsule you'll never know. By the process of elimination, through trial and error, I know it's what caused mine.
MSG is a nerve stimulant and can stimulate some nerve cells to death. Depending on the size of the capsule it contains 11-14 mg. of MSG. Ligaments hold organs in place. This is not documented in a medical journal but since ligaments have nerve cells it makes sense to me that ligament nerve cells are being destroyed by ingesting any source of MSG. Because I had made attempts to eliminate hidden sources of MSG from my diet, the only source left was the capsule.
My "bulge" is stool collected in the rectum. Have you tried using tampons? Before I became aware of the capsule(s) being the cause, I sometimes had to use two tampons. They pushed things out and back where they belonged. A couple of times I folded a paper towel so it encompassed the tampon, dipped it in Witch Hazel and shoved that in. That's how I discovered the bulge was accumulated stool and/or gas. (only use Bounty or Viva as they are lint free).
I agree with you about not wanting surgery. I've heard about lawsuits being filed due to irreversible damage from that surgery. Once in awhile, if I'm going to attempt a lot of walking/shopping, I'll insert a tampon for a preventative measure along with practicing Kegels while walking.
You may be affected by the various binders and fillers in your other supplements. GMO's have permeated our food supply in one way or another so, not only is our food affected, the binders and fillers are being manufactured from these...then, there is the addition of hidden sources of manufactured glutamic acid (MSG). If you take any protein powder, that's another source.
Please consider trying the tampons and lubricating jelly for awhile. They really do help. I get the super plus. I limit the use to four hours at a time unless I used it overnight, which was a rare occurrence.
Multiple Remedies
I submitted the importance of using lubricating jelly on top of the Witch Hazel dipped tampon to keep adequate vaginal moisture but do not see it here. This is important. Sometimes I insert the jelly with an applicator a couple times a week. Witch Hazel is drying and you want to keep this area moist. I was using the Premarin cream but feel this caused me a blood clot in one of my legs so I stopped it after I saw warnings advertised. It was also too expensive.
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Hi, Kathy! I just finished reading your post about the gelatin capsules. I was wondering if you knew whether or not the vegetarian gelatin capsules were okay to use?? I put my own powdered herbs into vegetarian gelatin capsules and wondered if this was acceptable. Do you know anything about this type of capsule?? Please let me know if you do. Thank you!
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Hi Sunny, Thanks for you suggestion. I have tried some I am full of adhesions due to multiple surgeries. I have narrowings in my "pipeline" and the psyllium husk does not create the pliable products for elimination that I need.
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
I get my physilium at popular discount store. Starts with a K but can't remember name & am already in bed.
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Can you please the name of the product that has Psyllium husk, Psyllium seed, Marshmallow root, Slippery Elm bark, and Aloe Vera leaf?
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Hi Cy--No one answered my questions yet, either. I'm letting you know I'm going to call some pharmacies before I try the health food store, thinking they would be less expensive.
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
I would like more information on this newer product coming out to wear in underwear. I have stage 3 cystoceal and do not want to have surgery and hate wearing tampons.
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Hi Roseanna, I am in my late sixties. I can't emphasize enough how much using the tampons can help. I need them less frequently than I did a couple years ago. I had used two when the prolapse was bad. Sometimes I'll use one to go to the store if I have it or even do some walking.
If you have a stool in the bathroom to put your feet on when inserting the tampon(s) it will help. I pour some Witch Hazel in the lid and dip the end of the tampon in it to cause it to "fan" out before insertion. Make sure the tampon is pushed out enough so the cardboard applicator does not get wet. That will make it difficult to push the tampon all the way out. There is another post here about using lubricating jelly on the tampon. Sometimes just inserting an applicator full of lubricating jelly a couple times a week helps.
Try to always keep your pelvic floor drawn in, like a constant Kegel. It will help strengthen those muscles. My Mar. 9,2013 post above, explains an exercise that I do.
Sleeping with one in helps keep things in alignment. It just varies on what I eat, but if you don't get that stool out you're headed for more problems. I read that the lining of the colon/rectum is only one cell thick. It seems to me that stool accumulation can cause stretching to the point of rupture. When I have bleeding I take 1/2 tsp. cayenne pepper in about 6 oz. of water. I eat a lot of garlic and that can cause bleeding too, so I don't panic when I see some blood.
I just read somewhere, swallowing a TBSP or two of coconut oil will help elimination. I am going to try that.
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Hi Evelyn,
I would love to hear more about this. Is it possible for you to post details here?
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Has anyone every heard of the new support item that goes under your underwear yet? Please let me know. thanks I can't find anything on it.
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Now that holiday's are over I can get back to my cystocele problems, I am going to get the undergarment cause people have posted it really works and it seems that it would, have been drinking half a cup of triple leaf herbal laxative, really helps in keeping colon clear gently and working on my posture another help, will keep you posted on the undergarment, have a great everyday!
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Did your prolapse correct itself after stopping the gelatin? I have been taking gelatin for about 7 weeks and noticed prolapse a few weeks ago. It's gotten very bad. I started to suspect and then read what you wrote.
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Dear Grace,
Stopping other sources of manufactured glutamic acid (MSG) is most important. There can be 11- 14 mg. of MSG in each capsule, depending on its size. The capsule is what pushed me over the edge, but I had been weeding sources of hidden MSG out of my diet for several years.
As another poster Deirdre advised, that bulge is toxic bowel in your rectum and you need to push that back into your gastrointestinal tract. Using a tampon help to push the prolapse back. Dipping the end in Witch Hazel to "fan" out and applying the lubricant jelly is what I had to do to keep from getting too dry.
It is only 56 degrees in here now, so it's difficult to keep scanning through posts looking for the one that explains what I learned about the ligaments and nerve cells. Ligaments hold everything in place. You need to use a tampon to push the prolapse back in place so new ligaments can form. The body is always trying to heal itself.
This is only my opinion from what I have been learning in dealing with my prolapse and I hope it will help you. KT
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
The product that is fairly new for supporting a prolapse bladder etc is called the Hideaway. It goes right under your underwear and my friend uses it and so do I. We cannot wear a pessary or have surgery so this product works very well. Easy to wear and you cannot even feel it after you have it on for a few hours. All you have to do is go to the web site to see it at www.prolapsebladdersupport.com Hope this helps those of you who need to use something that does not have to inside of you and is user friendly.
Gail
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
To clear up some of the MSG issues here, MSG is processed by L- taurine( from eating organ meats)....so when you are low on L-Taurine then your body can't dispose of MSG. Gelatin can be healthy for you
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Faithville, Us
04/13/2015 MSG, kills brains cells and makes you crave stuff and makes you fat.... I read in another site that MSG depletes the natural levels of taurine in the body and causes heart attacks. Supplementing with Taurine can put up a stronger defense in the body for accidental ingesting of MSG and displace any built up in your body.
Below in wiki are all the hidden names of MSG to deceive us into buying products that have it and cause addictions
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Re the Hideaway. I am not understanding how it can actually hold in the cystocele. Does something stick up into the vagina from the support or is it just a very tightened pad that supports the pelvic floor? Thanks
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Why do you feel gelatin capsules can cause prolapse bladder? I have never heard of this. Please explain.
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Dear Kathleen,
In the production of any capsule a manufactured glutamic acid is created and is a nerve stimulant that can destroy nerve cells.
KT
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
If you scroll down to my 9-21-2015 post, I explain. I mentioned about ligaments in another post too but it is too cold to sit here and look for it. Everyone is going to be affected differently. I cannot take capsules without causing problems confirmed again when recently taking Serrapeptase. By the piecemeal process of elimination for over two decades I have learned this.
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Do you know if vegetarian Capsules also cause prolapse bladder or is just gelatin capsules?
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Dear Charity, El, Holly and Kathleen,
By the process of elimination I learned to trust the people who went to the food industry and had products tested for the manufactured glutamic acid, "MSG" content. MSG is a nerve stimulant and can destroy nerve cells. There is an erosion (aging) going on that can get to a point for which there is no remedy. The post by Grace above (1-23-16) seems to imply what I tried to share.
KT
Eliminate Gelatin Capsules
Dear Margo,
Thank you for this post. Good to know someone else discovered what I did! Be aware the capsule may not be the only source of hidden MSG you could be getting if it happens again because it is pervasive in our food supply along with GMO's.
KT
Rebounding
Just found out I have vaginal prolapse. Wouldnt this make the organs fall more with the jumping like that?
Rebounding
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WARNING- I tried rebounding and it made me get a prolapse or at least made a slight one much worse. I googled this and several women and sites said rebounding can cause it.
I am going to be checked by a specialist and may need surgery. It is much more pronounced when I am tired. I have Sjogren's which makes me constipated. I used to be able to strenghthen my bladder with Kegels, but it is just getting worse as I get closer to 60.
Multiple Remedies
A Prolasped bladder can get worse. As a caregiver, I've seen bladder protruding out of the vaginal area with the elderly. Not qualified for surgical proceedure due to age.
Multiple Remedies