Natural Remedies for a Pelvic Organ Prolapse

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A pelvic organ prolapse is a physical condition in women where one or more of the pelvic area organs are “falling” into the vagina.

Organs that prolapse into the vaginal area include the bladder, uterus, rectum, and urethra. Natural remedies can sometimes help some of the symptoms associated with pelvic organ prolapse. They include herbs, supplements, appropriate exercise, and physical therapy.

Types of Pelvic Organ Prolapse

  • Cystocele (bladder prolapse)
  • Rectocele (rectum prolapse)
  • Enterocele (small intestine prolapse)
  • Uterine prolapse (prolapse of the uterus)
  • Urethrocyle (prolapse of the urethra)

What Causes Pelvic Organ Prolapse?

Pelvic organ prolapse is common in woman who have had multiple pregnancies, difficult childbirths, surgeries, and estrogen deficiencies. Pelvic organ prolapse may first occur during pregnancy. It can also begin after childbirth or during menopause.

Chronic coughing from allergies, smoking, or lung disease can create undue stress to the pelvic organs and cause prolapse. Regular heavy lifting or chronic constipation can also put too much strain on muscles in the pelvic area, resulting in prolapse.

What are the symptoms of POP?

Some women do not notice symptoms at all. Other women will be told they have a prolapse when they have a routine OB/GYN exam.

Unfortunately, many women have chronic uncomfortable symptoms from a prolapse, including back or groin pain, pressure in the pelvic area, the feeling that something is coming out of the vagina, painful intercourse, or spotting and bleeding.

What are the Treatment Options for POP?

Surgery is commonly recommended for pelvic organ prolapse. However, the surgery's success rate is not as high as one might hope and surgery is sometimes needed again after several years. Even with surgery, a woman needs to be careful not the have the prolapse reoccur. A mesh is surgically inserted to hold up the organs. Not all bodies take well to having foreign material in the body. There have been instances of recall for the mesh that is used for prolapse surgery.

In the case of uterine prolapse, a hysterectomy is sometimes performed. Unfortunately, this addresses a symptom (prolapsing uterus) but not the cause (weak pelvic floor muscles) and after the uterus is removed, sometimes something else prolapses in its place. Vaginal vault prolapse and enterocyte can occur following a hysterectomy.

A pessary is a non-surgical treatment for POP. A pessary is a device that is inserted in the vagina to hold up the organs. Some pessaries are inserted by a GYN and left to do their work for months. Others can be taken out by the woman with a POP and reinserted. Pessaries have been used for this problem for generations. Some women find them uncomfortable, however. There may also be an increased risk of vaginal or bladder infections when a pessary is used.

Natural Remedies for Pelvic Organ Prolapse

If you suspect that you have a pelvic organ prolapse, it is wise to confirm your doctor's diagnosis to make sure that is what you are dealing with.

Herbs

Red Raspberry Leaf

Red raspberry leaf has been a primary female tonic for centuries. It helps to tone the pelvic organs. Used daily in a tea, red raspberry leaf can bring reduce symptoms of prolapse. 2-4 cups of strongly brewed red raspberry leaf tea, consumed daily, can help with prolapse and overall women’s health.

Red raspberry leaf tincture or capsules are not recommended.

Alcohol tinctures do not extract the healing properties from red raspberry leaf very well, whereas water, via tea, is excellent for extracting them. The body will not be able to extract the medicinal properties from encapsulated red raspberry leaf as well as water.

Horsetail

Horsetail is an herb, not the hair from the tail of a horse. Horsetail, also known as shave grass, is useful for various bladder and kidney problems, including prolapse. The silicon content helps the building of cells.

Horsetail can help with kidney and bladder stones, infections and inflammation in the urinary system. According to herbalist Philip Fritchey,1 horsetail may deplete B vitamins when used over longer periods of time. A B complex supplement is a useful supplement anyway but may be especially wise to use if you use horsetail regularly.

Nutmeg

Nutmeg is sometimes taken internally to relieve prolapse symptoms. However, this herb is not commonly used among herbalists and there is a dearth of information about its long term use or side effects. It is not to be used during pregnancy.

Because of the limited availability of information about nutmeg medicinal use, nutmeg should be used cautiously for prolapse problems. It may be a useful short term solution while you are working out better long term solutions for healing your prolapse.

Comfrey Leaf

Comfrey is an herb that is used to heal tissue. It promotes cell regeneration. Its internal use is controversial, though the leaves' tea has been used for healing by herbalists for a very long time. Comfrey can be made into a salve however, and used intravaginally for a similar benefit.

Horse Chestnut

Horse Chestnut is made into a cream for toning. It is used for varicose veins and can be used for prolapse as well.

You can make your own salve out of horse chestnut and comfrey since this may be very difficult to find on the market, but is quite easy to make yourself.

Recipe for Salve for Pelvic Organ Prolapse

  • Fill a pint jar with dry comfrey leaf and broken up/dried horse chestnuts.
  • Cover the herbs and nut with olive oil.
  • Put a lid on your jar.
  • Place the jar in a crock pot on a wash cloth (to keep from cracking the jar) and fill the crock pot with water.
  • Keep the water level below the rim of the jar so water does not get into your oil extract.
  • Put the lid on the crockpot and keep your crock pot on the “warm” setting for 3 days.
  • Add more water to the crockpot (not the oil and herb mixture) as needed.
  • Strain out the oil.
  • You can melt some beeswax into the oil to make a salve or use the oil extract as it is.
  • If you wish to add beeswax, add a tablespoon of grated beeswax for every 4 ounces of oil extract and melt this. The crockpot method will work well for this. Do not use a microwave.

Vitamins for Prolapse

Vitamin C and D are both important for your body to regenerate tissue. Both support your immune system and help you stave off infections that are common to those with POP. Vitamin C is necessary for your body to make collagen.

Collagen

Your skin, connective tissue, and support structures in your body need collagen, a protein. Taking a collagen supplement will ensure that muscles that support your pelvic organs have this needed protein for tissue strength and repair. A great source of collagen and other nutrients to nourish your body's support structures is bone broth.

Apple Cider Vinegar

Women with POP find that urinary tract infections are more common. It can be difficult to empty the bladder if it is out of place or other prolapsing organs are causing it to be displaced. Regular use of apple cider vinegar can help prevent bladder infections.

Adding a teaspoon or two to a glass of water 5 days a week is a common way to include apple cider vinegar into the daily routine.

Hormone Balancing

Women who first experience prolapse during menopause or pre-menopause may be experiencing this due to the low levels of progesterone in the body. Hormone balancing may bring a measure of relief to prolapse problems.

Natural remedies for hormone balancing include borax, natural progesterone cream, vitex, dong quai, black cohosh, and wild ram root.

Exercise

Exercise is important, but it must be done correctly or you could make your prolapse worse.

Think of your pelvic organs being supported by a hammock. You have muscles that act as this hammock. With a prolapse, your muscle hammock is overstretched and weak and isn’t supporting your organs well. If you do exercises that push down on the weak hammock, you will make the problem worse. High impact exercises, exercises with jumping up and down, running, jump roping etc. will all be stressing the “hammock.”

The very best exercise for prolapse is swimming. Swimming will give you resistance for getting a good workout while supporting the organs that are compromised.  It allows you to strengthen your core muscles without putting undue stress on your pelvic organs and surrounding tissue.

Walking is a good exercise for prolapse. It is best to walk early in the day before muscles are tired and your prolapse may be worse. Walking down steep hills can put extra pressure on your pelvic organs, so choose your terrain with that in mind.

What about Kegel exercises?

Some midwives and doctors recommend Kegels to prevent or heal prolapse problems. However, once you have a prolapse, sometimes Kegels are no longer recommended because they end up causing downward muscle pressure, making the prolapse worse. Ideally you will find a doctor or midwife that is experienced with helping women with prolapse problems who can work with you. If you do kegel exercises, you will want to be doing them correctly.

Some special physical therapists work with women with POP. They can help you learn to do exercises that will not aggravate your prolapse and make sure you do them correctly.

Maintain a Healthy Weight

If you are overweight, and especially if you have extra weight around the middle, this extra weight causes additional stress to the pelvic organs. Losing weight can reduce the stress on these organs, which can reduce the severity of the prolapse.

Pay Attention to Posture

Poor posture puts undue stress on your pelvic muscles.

You can use an exercise ball to improve your balance and sitting posture. Get a ball that will allow you to sit on the ball with your feet on the floor. Your knees should be a little lower than your hips. Use the ball instead of a chair for a few minutes a day and increase the length of time you use the ball. Some people use an exercise ball instead of a desk chair because it is comfortable and helps with posture!

Wearing high heels can cause a prolapse or make it worse. The long term wearing of high heels contributes to poor posture and undue stress on the pelvic floor. Wear well supporting and comfortable shoes when you wear shoes.

Avoid Constipation

Constipation can cause prolapse problems and it can make prolapse problems worse. Constipation is a stress to your pelvic organs when you try to eliminate. Do address your constipation problem. There are many effective natural remedies for this problem.

Do you have a natural remedy for pelvic organ prolapse? Were you able to avoid surgery? We would love to hear from you! Continue reading below for remedies from Earth Clinic readers who tried various natural remedies for this condition.

Sources:

  1. Practical Herbalism by Philip Fritchey

Bladder Prolapse Support

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Posted by Petronella (Canada) on 06/23/2018
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Hello.

I have a grade 3 bladder prolapse. A pessary, tampons, etc/etc/etc did not work for me. No leakage, just bladder protruding to vaginal lips. Yuck. My daughter uses a menstrual sponge. I wondered if it would work for my bladder prolapse. I bought a natural sponge, cut it to what I thought might hold up my bladder. LOL Several tries later I had found the right size of sponge that completely and utterly held my bladder up. After several uses I found the sponge irritated my insides (blood on sponge), so I added a lubricant (flax oil, replens, sliquid). They all work really well. I have several sponges that I now use almost daily. My favourite one is actually a natural sponge used for painting, of all things. You can get it at Michael's. I sew thread on the sponge so I can retrieve it easily. I lubricate the sponge on the outside, draw all edges together, and then insert in to vagina as far up as I can and pull the thread down as I retract my fingers. My bladder is completely held up way past the vaginal area. It does not slip out. I can't feel it as the sponge is so light. It has been a life saver for me. Wash sponge after use with soapy water, or Dawn. I microwave for 1 minute every two weeks to kill any bacteria that may linger on the sponge.

Try it! You might like it.

Replied by Charity
(Faithville, Us)
10/24/2018

COMFREY FOR PROLAPSE, I tried to buy it in the grocery store but the the FDA has villified this herb so it's not as easy to access. They say when they gave rats a third of their diet in comfrey they got liver issues. So I have a cream by Dr. Christopher, skin and bone, I am usiing on my L-5 disc to heal my scar tissue from the rupture and that was the origin of my prolapse issue. I am also using serrapeptase to heal the scar tissue on my back and my liver and love the stuff. Sleep better, less pain, losing wieght, brain is clearer and now using this comfrey for teeth. I read a lot on the topic so I'm now using it for pelvic issues because it heals bone, skin, tendons, ligaments, disc, and cartiledge. Hope you get to try some comfrey and regain overall health. No one has tried it in this section and talked about how it helped them so I will start off by saying ...Yes....try it first. Amazing stuff.

Sage
(MO)
02/11/2021

You could try Comfrey Homeopathic

Replied by debby
(Floida)
04/19/2022

It sounds like my situation is similar to yours. I am 73 and have had a prolapsed bladder for 10 years. Until recently I've been able to manage with exercises and Rose essential oil from time to time. I used menstrual sponges when I was younger. I bought some to try for the prolapse but the sponge sucked up liquid from my body, leaked a bit, and at the end of the day I also had some blood. I think I need a softer sponge. I would like to know more about using a lubricant--how much? Will it reduce the absorption of my own fluids? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions. I have an appointment with a urologist in 3 weeks but would love to avoid surgery.

Mama to Many
(TN)
04/20/2022

Editor's Choice Dear Debbie,

A few things you could try - nutmeg. It helped me with frequency urges. I would take 1/4 teaspoon in the morning. Another thing that I think is even better is Red Raspberry Leaf tea. Drinking a couple of glasses of strong red raspberry leaf tea help keep the entire female system toned. Have you ever seen a physical therapist who specializes in pelvic floor? I found a good one and she helped me so much. Unfortunately, I did not find her until after I had surgery. I had pelvic prolapse surgery (basically reconstructive surgery two years ago (I was 53). I did not feel like the urologist was very honest with me. She called it a "procedure" and it was outpatient and she did not prepare me for how difficult recovery would be.

I have had many surgeries over the years (jaw surgery, laparoscopic surgery, exploratory abdominal surgery, etc.) and recovery from pelvic prolapse surgery was by far the worst of the worst. The pain lasted for a year, until I went to the pelvic floor PT. I had to use a catheter to empty my bladder for weeks after surgery. I had burning pelvic pain for a very long time. Two years later when my bladder is tired it definitely drops down again, even though I do my exercises every day. But the red raspberry leaf tea helps a lot (I just get lazy about drinking it.) Maybe your surgery wouldn't be as extensive, and maybe your urologist is better than mine was. Just ask a lot of questions. My PT said I should have gotten PT after surgery, but my urologist had not suggested it.

I wish you well!

~Mama to Many~

Judith
(USA)
08/19/2024
★★★★★

Dear Mama to Many, just stopping by to leave a thank you note for your recommendation to drink red raspberry leaf tea to help with prolapse. I had a 4th degree episiotomy and forceps delivery with my first child 33 years ago - a mess but my son was perfect and I recovered with the heaven sent help of a very gentle male doctor. All seemed relatively fine for over a decade. Then the birth of my daughter at age 43, long posterior delivery, etc. Even still, I never gave these things more than a passing thought. But about 10 years ago, in my mid-fifties, the prolapse began. I was told, cystocele and rectocele, and I could see the bladder prolapse but still I didn't have bad symptoms and so didn't give it much attention. I wish now that I had done more... But hindsight is only good for the lesson and then we have to move on! I am now more determined than ever to do all that I can to maintain and yes, I am daring to believe for reversing all my symptoms. If our bodies can heal so marvelously and completely from so many other things, why not prolapse? I happily walk 2 miles daily and plan to continue for the rest of my days! So, thank you for pointing me toward the tea and also nutmeg! Blessings to you and your family, Judith

Mama to Many
(TN)
08/20/2024

Dear Judith,

Thank you for taking time to write and to tell your story! I hope you find the red raspberry leaf tea and nutmeg very helpful.

Let me know how it goes!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Lilly
(FL)
08/19/2024

In Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM), a prolapsed bladder is often attributed to a fundamental imbalance in the body's energy systems, particularly a deficiency or sinking of Qi (vital energy). TCM practitioners approach this condition by aiming to restore the balance of Qi, strengthen the body's energy, and enhance the integrity of the pelvic floor. The focus is on holistic healing, addressing both the physical symptoms and the underlying energy imbalances. From the TCM perspective, prolapsed bladder can be caused by several imbalances. Qi sinking or Qi collapsing is a common cause, where the body's vital energy is weakened, leading to a lack of support for the organs. This condition is often accompanied by symptoms like a bearing-down sensation in the abdomen and chronic diarrhea. Another cause can be Spleen Qi Sinking, where a weak digestive system leads to inadequate energy support, exacerbating pelvic organ prolapse. TCM treatments aim to identify and correct these specific imbalances to alleviate symptoms and prevent recurrence. See a TCM practitioner is my advice.

Judith
(USA)
08/25/2024

Thank you, Lilly, for the TCM suggestions. I plan to call a few practitioners and inquire whether they have had success reversing a prolapsed bladder and/or relieving symptoms. Blessings, judith


Bladder Prolapse Support
Posted by Petronella (Canada) on 06/23/2018
★★★★★

Hello.

I have a grade 3 bladder prolapse. A pessary, tampons, etc/etc/etc did not work for me. No leakage, just bladder protruding to vaginal lips. Yuck. My daughter uses a menstrual sponge. I wondered if it would work for my bladder prolapse. I bought a natural sponge, cut it to what I thought might hold up my bladder. LOL Several tries later I had found the right size of sponge that completely and utterly held my bladder up. After several uses I found the sponge irritated my insides (blood on sponge), so I added a lubricant (flax oil, replens, sliquid). They all work really well. I have several sponges that I now use almost daily. My favourite one is actually a natural sponge used for painting, of all things. You can get it at Michael's. I sew thread on the sponge so I can retrieve it easily. I lubricate the sponge on the outside, draw all edges together, and then insert in to vagina as far up as I can and pull the thread down as I retract my fingers. My bladder is completely held up way past the vaginal area. It does not slip out. I can't feel it as the sponge is so light. It has been a life saver for me. Wash sponge after use with soapy water, or Dawn. I microwave for 1 minute every two weeks to kill any bacteria that may linger on the sponge.

Try it! You might like it.

Replied by Emily
(Columbus, Ohio)
02/12/2021

What shape did you cut it in?

Replied by !eeann
(pahrump)
04/12/2022

Are you historectomied or in tact? I am in tact and I am wondering if this makes a difference.
Thank you


DHEA

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Posted by Anon (Anon , Us) on 08/06/2015
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I have some success with using capsules of DHEA 5 mg. I open the capsule and sprinkle a third out on a surface and mix with a cream or oil and rub it inside the vagina in the morning. Put on a light pad and go about my day .( Bladder Prolapse since 2010 )

FOR ME , DHEA seems to even out other hormones and energy levels go up. Also firmer muscles.

I use a little progesterone cream on facial skin that looks aged and it looks more youthful with just a dab.( the half of a split pea for size, amount of cream) I use for outings , when I want to look my best.

MSM is also very helpful for skin, new hair growth , and muscle with VITAMIN C

My physical therapist talked me into stopping my uphill walks while going through therapy using kegals and kegals did not solve any problems . If you are already able to walk , DON'T STOP!!!

Replied by Tina
(Virginia Beach, Va)
05/04/2017
Replied by Anon
(Anon)
09/20/2017

I still use dhea 5 mg oral capsule, every second or third day . I ride my bike an hour on flat land most days . My prolapse has almost gone away, it was a stage four. 3 drops lugols iodine in vagina, 1 pea size progesterone cream in vagina, 1/2 pea size estrace from doctor in pubic hairline .

Lots of prayer

I had a digestion disorder and it has taken a lot of things to sort that out, it was the main piece of the puzzle. Digestive enzymes . I switched to low cost mail order company~ swan--- due to low senior income. Saving a small fortune .

L-taurine to displace MSG

Magnesium citrate and just switched to a triple magnesium supplement, D-3+K-2, Natural vitamin E, fish oil capsule, vitamin C, garlic oil, milk thistle for liver detox, Horsetail for silica, B complex, Alpha lipoic acid, TMG for liver also, MSM for skin hair organs and blood, Molybdenum for liver, Veggies 4 life, Bone building formula, N-Acetyl Cysteine for immune health.Ginko leaf, Apple cider vinegar with honey in water, soy lecithin granules heaping tsp.Magtein (L-threonate for memory)

The above once a day, then every other day I add selenium, biotin, folic acid, a mix of amino acids

Also once a week borax foot soak to regulate hormones, and add to the mineral mix, probably going to use more low dose lithium too, when I get around to it.

My goal is to one day only need these on occasion, but until health is complete, I am being diligent. Stay hydrated with pink salt and water.

Replied by Marlene
(Minnesota)
03/02/2018

I hesitate using a DHEA capsule as they all have a filler such as rice flour. Any suggestions from anyone?

Replied by Raspberry
(Leaf Tea)
03/04/2018

I believe raspberry leaf tea and perhaps nettle tea (maybe with some fresh lemon juice) are indicated for prolapse. Sulfury foods are also good for the skin. Brewer's yeast, nutritional yeast, and black strap molasses could be helpful, too. If I were you I would use these liberally every day.


Eliminate Gelatin Capsules

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Posted by Kathy (the USA) on 03/09/2013
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I am in my sixties and discovered that gelatin capsules are what caused my prolapse. I could not tolerate ingesting capsules. I always opened them and took the contents. When I started to use the stool softeners I had to swallow the capsule(s). I then experienced prolapse... This was just this past Dec. When I stopped using the stool softeners the prolapse began to subside. I juggle between probiotics, magnesium powder and the stool softeners. When I walk, go up and down the stairs or stand at the kitchen sink I do Kegels. I also do them when I lift ten lbs. from the floor... As you come up, tuck & squeeze your butt. I was fortunate to recognize this early enough to fix it (just a few months) so if anyone has ingested supplements in capsules for a period of time it may take longer.

Replied by Kathy
(the USA)
03/09/2013

I am post menopause and when the prolapse was extreme I used super tampons saturated with lubricating jelly overnight and/or a few hours during the day until I got better control and things stayed in place. If constipation necessitates stool softeners and the prolapse starts, I use the tampon again.

Replied by Joy
(Battleground, Wash)
03/09/2013

Please explain how gelatin causes Prolapse.... I am really curious?

Replied by Deidre
(Sydney, Australia)
03/10/2013

I read that Prolapse is caused by a toxic bowel. If you have a toxic bowel, maybe the stool softeners just allowed the bowel to push further down. Just a thought.

I would start on colonics, eating prunes, caster oil, start juicing and go on a raw food diet because raw foods contain digestive enzymes.

Barbara
(Kentucky)
10/23/2021

Hi. I used castor oil for constipation (it helped0 but it caused bleeding (from somewhere). It would be better to use castor oil externally on the belly with a heating pad. You can find complete instructions on the internet.

Replied by Kathy
(the USA)
03/10/2013

I'm sorry, I cannot provide details but when I was in communication with those fighting the FDA about MSG issues I had been informed that gelatin is made from bone. During the manufacturing process, glutamic acid is created and is a nerve stimulant that can stimulate some nerve cells to death, depending how sensitive you are which is determined on how your mother ate while she was pregnant with you. Glutamic acid is naturally occurring BUT when it is a consequence of manufacture it is toxic to many. It is just not recognized. The medical profession is not keeping up with what is happening to our food. More money is wasted on "research" to find cures instead of eliminating the probable cause. It took me over twenty years to learn about the ramifications of processed free glutamic acid but by the process of elimination I learned. I hope this helps. There is a website you could go, and I have seen it listed in other posts here, but I don't know if it is permitted and I wouldn't want this post to be deleted. I will also mention that I had a breech vaginal delivery many years ago but I never experienced any prolapse until I ingested the gelatin capsules.

Replied by Jennifer
(Ash Grove, Mo/ Usa)
03/16/2013

Hi, Kathy! I just finished reading your post about the gelatin capsules. I was wondering if you knew whether or not the vegetarian gelatin capsules were okay to use?? I put my own powdered herbs into vegetarian gelatin capsules and wondered if this was acceptable. Do you know anything about this type of capsule?? Please let me know if you do. Thank you!

Replied by Kathy
(the USA)
03/17/2013

Hi Jennifer, I would not use them. You could mix your powdered herbs in some unsweetened applesauce or, as I do with one of my probiotics, sprinkle the capsule contents between apricots halves and let my saliva mix/dissolve the powder as I swallow. Our food is being engineered to last longer so it has become harder to digest. There was a short period of time that I started getting the "grass-fed" or "free-range" meat, chicken, eggs and milk. All those critters are being fed genetically modified grains and grasses (GMO). The beef was harder on my husband's and my kidneys, I started to experience incontinence from the chicken (I was a big meat and egg eater). By the process of elimination I learned this. I had to get 2% milk because the "grass-fed" dairy cows are being fed GMO grasses and grain to produce more milk, especially in the winter. Even the "free-range" chicken eggs caused me indigestion. I never trusted "organics" and recently found some information to confirm I was correct. I cannot afford the costs anyway.

In my opinion fresher is no longer better. I get frozen or canned vegetables without salt (the flowing agent in salt is another hidden culprit). Salt is not the problem... It is the flowing/anti-caking agent. I use sea salt. The frozen or canned is blanched at their peak so I feel they are better for you. I feel we have grown up eating things that our body has been "conditioned" to tolerate or build up an immunity to. No proof of this... Just my reasoning. I no longer get the extra large eggs. I get medium and I only buy eggs in the cardboard cartons. The yolks seem to have a richer yellow/orange color and I am better able to keep my weight down, which I had struggled with for years. I now limit my eggs and meat consumption because they contain more carbohydrates than they used to. I get the 2% milk in glass bottles because it is safer even though I have to limit that because of the "carb" content NOW.

As far as toxic bowels... For the last few years I have been taking 1/2 tsp. dry mustard in 1/2 Cup cold water first thing in the morning, on an empty stomach to "prime the pump" for bowel evacuation. Mustard is an antiseptic and someone on this site posted they had to use mustard instead of antibiotics. I don't remember where that post was or what I was looking up. There is no doubt that the capsules cause my prolapse because when I stop ingesting them, my prolapse subsides.

Replied by Kathy
(the USA)
03/17/2013

HEY DEIDRE... I'm sorry I confused your post with what Jennifer posted. As you see, I remarked about "toxic bowel" to her. Because hidden sources of MSG stimulate nerve cells, maybe it affects the ligaments that hold organs in place. I don't know but if I have the money to alter the probiotics like I did I have good results. I have very limited income. I happened to have stool softeners on hand that I had purchased for our dog. It is ONLY when I have to use them that I experience prolapse. Everyone is different and will react in a different way to hidden sources of manufactured glutamic acid.

It makes me sad that I can't afford to have a dog anymore :-( :-(

Replied by Kathy
(the USA)
03/17/2013

Hi again Jennifer, I don't know whether I replied to you here, in response to your post, or if it was another place... Where Deidre responded. I have to work on this piecemeal. I'm not real familiar with this site and what I read I cannot remember all so I don't know if posts are categorized. I confused what Deidre said as coming from you... What she said is also true. I think the two issues relate to each other. Where the ligaments are weakened and not keeping things in place, it seems that stool collects (it was reported that I have a "very tortuous colon") and can begin to ferment. If I get over 100lbs. I know I'm full of... impacted fecal matter and I'm fortunate to have the time needed to evacuate completely. Sometimes it takes a very long time because nerve cells are dead that would prompt elimination. I'm sure I must be a candidate for a colostomy but I don't want to live the rest of my life like that.

Replied by Claudine
(Norwalk, Ct)
04/01/2013

to Kathy -- very interesting about gelatin capsules and a prolapsed bladder! I consume a lot of supplements in capsule form every day and didn't think twice about it! Is there any place I can research this further? I have started to dump the contents out into a smoothie now. Thanks for your postings.

Replied by Kathy
(the USA)
04/02/2013

Hi Claudine, I only learned what the gelatin capsules were doing to me because of trying to avoid msg in our food. This has been over a twenty-year endeavor during which I have learned much. I don't believe anyone else has reported this effect from gelatin capsules. I reported this to the friend who helped me become aware of the damaging effects of hidden msg in our food. The piecemeal process of elimination over the years is all the confirmation I need to know the gelatin capsules caused my problem. If I have to use stool softeners and begin to feel the prolapse I use a super plus tampon for a few hours during which I "tuck and squeeze" while walking around. Before I discovered it was the gelatin capsules I had to use two of the super plus tampons. Ingestion of other sources of msg could certainly contribute. With what is being done to our food it is nearly impossible to avoid.

Replied by Sunny
(Central, Wa)
05/05/2013

Constipation: Having a prolapsed bladder and fighting with constipation off and on all my life, I found that rather than using stool softners, I have had very good luck with a product that contains Psyllium husk, Psyllium seed, Marshmallow root, Slippery Elm bark, and Aloe Vera leaf. I like it better than anything else I've tried. (better than Metamucil which I used previously) It comes in a powder form so no worry about the gelatin capsules. Hope this helps some of you that also have constipation issues.

Replied by Kathy
(the USA)
05/07/2013

Hi Sunny, Thanks for you suggestion. I have tried some I am full of adhesions due to multiple surgeries. I have narrowings in my "pipeline" and the psyllium husk does not create the pliable products for elimination that I need.

Elsa D
(Wellington, New Zealand)
04/14/2021

Have you tried chiropractic adjustment/alignment? I would definitely recommend it. Experience is teaching me that an imbalanced hip is affecting our organ.

Replied by Kathy
(Some, Where, The Usa)
06/13/2013

Hi again Claudine, I've been wondering if you had thought about using food that contains the vitamins/minerals that you need instead of the supplements. That's what I've been trying to do but our food has been changing and that's affecting the supplements too.

Replied by KT
(USA)
07/28/2013

This reply is for Sunny: Where can I purchase the powdered product you are referring to? (It took me awhile to process what you were saying)... Fractured skull and multiple head traumas several decades ago. I saw "psyllium husk" and did not process "powder"... Probably doesn't make sense to you but it is difficult for me to sit here long periods of time. ANYWAY, I'm really interested in looking for the product you suggested. Is it available at a well-known drug store that starts with a "C"? That is closer to me than the health food store. I have to plan two days ahead if I'm going to travel that far (only eight miles) but in my condition I don't travel if I have a hint of needing the bathroom. I don't think we can provide names or brand names here... When I'm in this uncomfortable situation I don't what I'm reading... I can't use my head... I feel like I'm going to POP. I need immediate relief.

Sammy
(Springfield)
10/09/2020

I get my physilium at popular discount store. Starts with a K but can't remember name & am already in bed.

Replied by Ann
(Indiana, Usa)
04/24/2014

I have struggled with constipation and prolapse for 30 years. I had two surgeries which are ineffective soon after so I have just put up with it, trying to limit my lifting, which usually is what bothers me. I have used psyllium powder for years but in the last 2 years found that aloe vera juice helps soften my stool. Some tastes terrible but I found a brand (starts with G) that tastes like water. I add it to my smoothies and my lemon water that I carry with me all day. I have learned how much to put in to avoid loose stools but seldom have hard stools any more, depending on what I have eaten.

Replied by Cy
(Florida)
05/24/2014

Can you please the name of the product that has Psyllium husk, Psyllium seed, Marshmallow root, Slippery Elm bark, and Aloe Vera leaf?

Replied by KT
(Usa)
05/24/2014

Hi Cy--No one answered my questions yet, either. I'm letting you know I'm going to call some pharmacies before I try the health food store, thinking they would be less expensive.

Replied by Carolyn
(Canterbury, New Zealand)
02/02/2015

Google "pelvic balls" to strengthen and hold your bladder up in place...works well!! Also, calcium bentonite clay to cleanse the bowel, liver, gall bladder.

Replied by Lynn
(Kitchener Ontario)
03/05/2015

Hi there everyone. I have had a prolapse bladder for ten years now and it recently started protruding out of my vagina. I was tired of walking around with my insides starting to hang out, but I did not want to wear a huge tampon, did not want a pessary and certainly did not want an operation. I saw how many sites there are on the internet with women telling about their pain and how the prolapse fell back down within a couple of years. Some are suing for mesh problems as well. I was resigned to the fact that I would just live with this problem of hanging out and wearing supportive panties with a pad etc. However, I have good news for all of you. I am a test pilot for a new prolapse support that goes right under your own underwear. It is very easy to wear and it supports your prolapse bladder to keep it just inside the opening of your vagina, so it won't hang out. Its very easy to wear, affordable and comfortable. You even forget you have it on after you get use to it. It will be out on the market soon and I can't wait to tell others who suffer like I do that there is something you can wear to help support your prolapse. Hope to get back on here soon with more good news for those like me, that don't want an operation and not a candidate for a pessary or other devices that go inside of us. Blessings to all of you

Lynn

Replied by KT
(Usa)
03/05/2015

Just a word of caution about the "bladder" prolapse, which is really not the bladder. It is an accumulation of stool pushing against the vaginal wall that needs to be expelled. The tampon use is a temporary thing and helps push the stool, sometimes gas, out.

Replied by Maggie
(Oahu, Hawaii)
03/31/2015

I would like more information on this newer product coming out to wear in underwear. I have stage 3 cystoceal and do not want to have surgery and hate wearing tampons.

Replied by Lynn
(Canada)
05/01/2015

I heard of a new product support garment for the prolapse bladder that is worn underneath the existing underwear. This prolapse support garment does not cure the prolapse of course , but it stops the prolapse from protruding out of the vagina area. It can be worn for playing tennis, exercising, riding a bicycle etc. and again keeps the prolapse from falling out further. I will find the web site and write back if anyone wants to see this product.

Replied by KT
(Usa)
05/02/2015

Hi Lynn, Tampons are not "huge" and if they are inserted correctly, you don't even know they're there. Since I posted last, I've given a lot of thought to what Deidre advised...she was right. That "bulge" or what is said to be your bladder is not. It is stool accumulating in the rectum and pressing against the vaginal wall.

Taking 1/2 tsp. dry mustard in 1/2 C cool water first thing in the morning, on an empty stomach, before breakfast helps a lot, but you still may need to manually push the prolapse back. I sometimes put Witch Hazel on toilet paper to shove it back.

As I have used one or two tampons for temporary "alignment" it helped the stool get back on track to stay in a tract for expulsion. Since my posts over two years ago, even in my old age, I seem to have had success in "shrinking" the rectum a little so a lot of stool does not accumulate (don't sit for long periods). I make a tea of 1/4 tsp. turmeric and 2/4-1/2 tsp. ginger and try to drink this a couple times a day. It can cause some bleeding but these both are reported to fight cancer.

I also learned that I have experienced intussusception, where the small intestines, colon and rectum can "telescope" anywhere along the tract and contributes to constipation. When this occurred, I stretched my "pipeline" so much, it became the same as excess skin when someone loses a lot of weight. I've had four colonoscopies and was told I had a torturous colon. I am done having those because the preparation is torturous due to the hidden sources of MSG.

If you just keep pushing the prolapse back, you're only causing stool to accumulate in the lower part of the rectum and, depending on what you eat, it could become malignant. Additional vitamin C can act as a stool softener or I have alternated two brands of probiotics, on occasion. I do not want to spend the rest of my life with a colostomy.

If you look at a diagram of the colon and rectum you will observe that just before the anus there are areas where stool can accumulate and, due to the "bends" can cut off circulation that would allow gangrene to occur.

This is only my opinion due to what I've experienced. If meals are spaced five to six hours apart with only water in between, this also helps with the much needed elimination to avoid prolapse.

There is a reason the gelatin capsules of the stool softeners contributed to my prolapse that I cannot put into words right now. I hope some of this information will help you.

Replied by Roseanna
(Memphis)
06/22/2015

Hi! My name is Roseanna. I have had pelvic prolapse of my bladder off and on for several years. Of late it is worse. I believe some heavy lifting caused it to worsen. And been terribly stressed with family issues. Saw my Gyno Dr and he put me on antibiotics, and referred me to a Uro Gyno Dr. We decided to wait on that consult as I asked if there was Pelvic Floor PT. I am loving it so far but it is slow and I want the cystocele to just improve like it has so often before. I would love the underwear. I am used to walking 2 miles several times a week but can't right now as I think it could make the prolapse worse. I am not giving up and will reverse this comdition with every natural healthy tool I can find! So am loving all the posts.

Replied by KT
(Usa)
06/22/2015

Hi Roseanna, I am in my late sixties. I can't emphasize enough how much using the tampons can help. I need them less frequently than I did a couple years ago. I had used two when the prolapse was bad. Sometimes I'll use one to go to the store if I have it or even do some walking.

If you have a stool in the bathroom to put your feet on when inserting the tampon(s) it will help. I pour some Witch Hazel in the lid and dip the end of the tampon in it to cause it to "fan" out before insertion. Make sure the tampon is pushed out enough so the cardboard applicator does not get wet. That will make it difficult to push the tampon all the way out. There is another post here about using lubricating jelly on the tampon. Sometimes just inserting an applicator full of lubricating jelly a couple times a week helps.

Try to always keep your pelvic floor drawn in, like a constant Kegel. It will help strengthen those muscles. My Mar. 9,2013 post above, explains an exercise that I do.

Sleeping with one in helps keep things in alignment. It just varies on what I eat, but if you don't get that stool out you're headed for more problems. I read that the lining of the colon/rectum is only one cell thick. It seems to me that stool accumulation can cause stretching to the point of rupture. When I have bleeding I take 1/2 tsp. cayenne pepper in about 6 oz. of water. I eat a lot of garlic and that can cause bleeding too, so I don't panic when I see some blood.

I just read somewhere, swallowing a TBSP or two of coconut oil will help elimination. I am going to try that.

Replied by Evelyn
(Los Angeles, Ca)
10/01/2015

Thank you all so much for these great posts and info, have learned so much! Am going to get off the couch, which has only been making things worse, and the people I know with this problem only recommend surgery which I don't want to do especially because all of them are worse off with their surgeries, I certainly did not want that to be my alternative! Please let me know more about the prolapse support under garment. so glad I found you guys, and bless you

Replied by Jilly
(Usa)
11/24/2015

Hi Evelyn,

I would love to hear more about this. Is it possible for you to post details here?

Replied by Marie
(Baltimore)
12/02/2015

Has anyone every heard of the new support item that goes under your underwear yet? Please let me know. thanks I can't find anything on it.

Replied by KT
(Usa)
12/03/2015

Dear Marie,

I found this when I Googled "prolapse support underwear" I trust using the tampons...sometimes just an hour, sometimes longer. By my personal "clinical observation" I found that the gelatin capsule is what causes my prolapse. If I had not been involved with a consumer group a couple decades ago I would have never learned this fact. Everyone is different but I know this causes mine. It started with using the stool softeners.

Now, I alternate one of my probiotics that comes in a capsule. When I open the capsule and empty the contents in some food, I don't have a problem. If I take the entire capsule I will experience prolapse.

Deidre from Sydney, Australia is who brought the "toxic bowel" to my attention...my "prolapse" is accumulating stool. I used to have frequent UTI's and a problem with yeast until she advised me.

KT

Replied by Evelyn
(Los Angeles, Ca)
12/29/2015

Now that holiday's are over I can get back to my cystocele problems, I am going to get the undergarment cause people have posted it really works and it seems that it would, have been drinking half a cup of triple leaf herbal laxative, really helps in keeping colon clear gently and working on my posture another help, will keep you posted on the undergarment, have a great everyday!

Replied by Grace
(Berlin, Ct)
01/23/2016

Did your prolapse correct itself after stopping the gelatin? I have been taking gelatin for about 7 weeks and noticed prolapse a few weeks ago. It's gotten very bad. I started to suspect and then read what you wrote.

Replied by KT
(Usa)
01/24/2016

Dear Grace,

Stopping other sources of manufactured glutamic acid (MSG) is most important. There can be 11- 14 mg. of MSG in each capsule, depending on its size. The capsule is what pushed me over the edge, but I had been weeding sources of hidden MSG out of my diet for several years.

As another poster Deirdre advised, that bulge is toxic bowel in your rectum and you need to push that back into your gastrointestinal tract. Using a tampon help to push the prolapse back. Dipping the end in Witch Hazel to "fan" out and applying the lubricant jelly is what I had to do to keep from getting too dry.

It is only 56 degrees in here now, so it's difficult to keep scanning through posts looking for the one that explains what I learned about the ligaments and nerve cells. Ligaments hold everything in place. You need to use a tampon to push the prolapse back in place so new ligaments can form. The body is always trying to heal itself.

This is only my opinion from what I have been learning in dealing with my prolapse and I hope it will help you. KT

Replied by Gail
(Usa)
02/13/2016

The product that is fairly new for supporting a prolapse bladder etc is called the Hideaway. It goes right under your underwear and my friend uses it and so do I. We cannot wear a pessary or have surgery so this product works very well. Easy to wear and you cannot even feel it after you have it on for a few hours. All you have to do is go to the web site to see it at www.prolapsebladdersupport.com Hope this helps those of you who need to use something that does not have to inside of you and is user friendly.

Gail

Replied by Charity
(Faithville, Usa)
08/23/2016

To clear up some of the MSG issues here, MSG is processed by L- taurine( from eating organ meats)....so when you are low on L-Taurine then your body can't dispose of MSG. Gelatin can be healthy for you

Replied by Charity
Faithville, Us
04/13/2015 MSG, kills brains cells and makes you crave stuff and makes you fat.... I read in another site that MSG depletes the natural levels of taurine in the body and causes heart attacks. Supplementing with Taurine can put up a stronger defense in the body for accidental ingesting of MSG and displace any built up in your body.

Below in wiki are all the hidden names of MSG to deceive us into buying products that have it and cause addictions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosodium_glutamate

Replied by Chip
(Canada)
01/06/2017

Re the Hideaway. I am not understanding how it can actually hold in the cystocele. Does something stick up into the vagina from the support or is it just a very tightened pad that supports the pelvic floor? Thanks

Replied by Kathleen
(Lehigh Acres, Fl)
03/01/2017

Why do you feel gelatin capsules can cause prolapse bladder? I have never heard of this. Please explain.

KT
(Usa)
11/04/2017

Dear Kathleen,

In the production of any capsule a manufactured glutamic acid is created and is a nerve stimulant that can destroy nerve cells.

KT

Replied by KT
(Usa)
03/02/2017

If you scroll down to my 9-21-2015 post, I explain. I mentioned about ligaments in another post too but it is too cold to sit here and look for it. Everyone is going to be affected differently. I cannot take capsules without causing problems confirmed again when recently taking Serrapeptase. By the piecemeal process of elimination for over two decades I have learned this.

Replied by El
(Tx)
09/27/2017

Do you know if vegetarian Capsules also cause prolapse bladder or is just gelatin capsules?

Replied by KT
(Usa)
09/28/2017

Dear El,

Yes they can. I cannot take the serrapeptase in the non-gelatin vegetable capsule and not experience a problem with prolapsed "bladder".

KT

Replied by Holly
(Millersville)
09/28/2017

Dear El,

I use gelatin capsules with nutmeg in them for my bladder prolapse, and it helps me so much. Gelatin capsules (vegetarian or not) may affect some for the worse, but not everyone.

Holly

Replied by KT
(Usa)
11/04/2017

Dear Charity, El, Holly and Kathleen,

By the process of elimination I learned to trust the people who went to the food industry and had products tested for the manufactured glutamic acid, "MSG" content. MSG is a nerve stimulant and can destroy nerve cells. There is an erosion (aging) going on that can get to a point for which there is no remedy. The post by Grace above (1-23-16) seems to imply what I tried to share.

KT

Replied by Margo
(Sahuarita, Az)
04/29/2018
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Re: gelatin capsules. The prolapse I have just appeared about 1 month ago. I was given a suppository by my gyne that was boric acid plus whatever components go into the suppository. It was compounded, and very expensive. Found a Boric acid capsule that could do the same thing for 1/3 the cost. Began using it. After 3 weeks (I used it about 4 times withing the 3 weeks), I noticed the bulge for the first time. Went back to my Gyne, and she detailed what was happening. Didn't use the capsule, the bulge subsided. Used it again a week ago, the bulge came back. Will wait to see if this is the issue, and will begin using some of the products suggested on this website. Good to know there are people out there that are DIY'ers, and take charge of their own health!

KT
(Usa)
11/05/2018

Update for problems with prolapse

Hi Trish,

I was just reviewing the thread on prolapse and wanted to report an update. I no longer have a problem as long as I do not ingest a capsule. I bite the capsule if I take Flaxseed Oil or d3 if I haven't been in the sun. I have been opening the capsules for serrapeptase and pouring contents in a mouthful of water or fold contents into some unsweetened applesauce. I will occasionally take Bromelain in the capsule and always experience a little prolapse.

KT

KT
(Usa)
11/05/2018

Dear Margo,

Thank you for this post. Good to know someone else discovered what I did! Be aware the capsule may not be the only source of hidden MSG you could be getting if it happens again because it is pervasive in our food supply along with GMO's.

KT


General Feedback

Posted by Trish Ford (NC, USA) on 07/11/2015

I have enjoyed reading all of the comments and have learned many things on this site that I can do to help my situation.

However, there are many comments saying that the cystocele is not the bladder, but the rectum protruding in the vagina. This is NOT correct. They are two completely different issues. The protrusion of the rectum in the vagina is called a RECTOCELE and is a POSTERIOR PROLAPSE and the protrusion of the bladder is a CYSTOCELE and is a ANTERIOR PROLAPSE.

I had surgery for a RECTOCELE 30 years ago when I was in my 20's (large babies and constipation problems during that period of my life, and also had my uterus removed during the same surgery as the RECTOCELE). They did not use mesh, but did use the muscles from my uterus to "rebuild" the posterior wall. The surgery was extremely painful, but in the 30 years since, I never had any problems.

About 2 months ago my bladder became very uncomfortable....stage 3 cystocele. The pessaries did not work, and pressure from exercise or lifting made it protrude further. I am now 2 weeks post op from cystocele repair. I was just told that I have some residual bladder drop but it is much better than it was. How disappointing...the surgery was much easier and less painful than the rectocele was, but was hoping the problem was fixed.

I was very happy to find this site with natural remedies that I am looking forward to trying once I am healed from surgery. I usually do things the natural way, eat healthy and live a healthy lifestyle..too bad I didn't see this site before.

Good luck and blessings to all of you!

Replied by Mary
(Clemmons, Nc)
10/16/2015
10 posts

Hi Trish, I see you're from the same state as me, NC and it was very interesting reading about your experiences. I'm in my late seventies and have had a prolapse for two years but it hasn't been a problem until just three weeks ago. Since then it has given me much discomfort and a lot of bleeding. The one thing I worry about is that the Cystocele will drop right out of my vagina and it scares me. I'm always pushing it back but it comes right down again. I went for a routine doctor appt. last week and she wants me to see a gyno-urology Dr.but I've decided I'm going to try treating it myself first. I just ordered some homeopathic medicine for the urinary tract, and some natural estrogen cream to strengthen the tissues around the vaginal opening, but don't know if it's going to work.

I love reading all the posts on this site and feel so much better knowing I'm not the only one who suffers with this condition. What women have to go through with child birth and everything else is unbelievable. I had five children and suppose it took its toll on my body....along with all the heavy lifting. However, at my age...eighty in a couple of months....I'm in pretty good shape and have been a fitness instructor for seniors for over twenty years. However I worry that I may have to give it up if this problem of mine isn't resolved. I teach strength training classes and low impact aerobics, so needless to say I've been very active.

I just wish I had the information that someone mentioned about the device worn underneath the underwear to hold everything in place?

Anyone having any advice for me based on my situation would be greatly appreciated. You are all an inspiration to me. Thanks to everyone.


Kegel Exercises

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Posted by Jeanniew (Marinette, Wi) on 03/22/2018
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I was diagnosed with a prolapsed uterus over 30 years ago and was told that I had to have surgery to correct it. Looking it up, I found that surgery would only last for so long and the problem would be back. I decided to try kegel exercises instead. As I'm doing the kegel exercises, I'm pulling my stomach back and up (towards my spine). At the same time I massage the abdominal area to get things moving around and back into place. The prolapsed uterus tries to come back every once in a while, and I get back into the exercises. It works every time, and it has NEVER been a problem for me. Give it a try. Surgery is a money-making scheme!


Kegel Exercises
Posted by Anke (Esher, Surrey, United Kingdom) on 01/28/2010
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I had a stage 2 cystocele and it improved about 90% with the following:

Daily kegel exercises, as many as possible. Start slowly and work up to 10-20 an hour. I added a vaginal exerciser for resistance, it made a big difference

Acupuncture, 3 times a week! over 2 months, plus herbs to build blood (had hemorrhaged postpartum which had made me very weak). This made a huge difference but it has to be frequent. In China they'd have daily treatment.

Jin Shin Jyutsu ( a form of acupressure) self help and sessions with the same purpose of increasing the ascending energy which hold organs in place. Work on spleen, umbilicus, kidney meridians etc. This is a good substitute if acupuncture is unaffordable, as you can do it yourself.

Yoga, all inverted poses and forward bends with breath work. I took some private Yoga lessons for this problem and it does help.

And of course good nutrition to nourish blood and overall energy. Exhaustion and depletion can lead to prolapse - in Chinese Medicine it is known as "collapsed qi".

Good luck!


Replied by Mama to Many
(Tennessee)
02/21/2015

Dear Renele,

You know, it really breaks my heart when I see very inexpensive cures made into such expensive ones. The greed is very distressing.

For $100 you could buy enough capsules, a capsule machine, and boric acid to last a year or two.

Alternately, there is a very reputable midwife in North Carolina who sells boric acid capsules for a reasonable price.

midwifery in the mountains

I used to buy her Arnica Oil (20 years ago! ) and it was great. (I make my own now.)

Anyway, hopefully you will be able to get what you need for a reasonable price!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Rs
(Sf, US)
02/23/2015

Oh honey. Just order boric acid on Amazon.com. I have been buying it online for years....and empty capsules. Get size 00 capsules (gelatin, bovine, whatever) and make your own. It would cost you about $10 for a large bottle of boric acid and about $20 for 200-300 empty capsules. That will last you a long time since you won't be using them every day. BUT, try alkaline water first. It's at your local grocery store and it works. BV is caused by an upset pH balance and once you alkalize your body, then no bacteria can grow. Its much cheaper than anything else out there and it works. I hate to say I am cured because there is no cure for BV, its about keeping the symptoms at bay by keeping your pH balanced.

Multiple Remedies

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Posted by Tamara (Fort Collins, Colorado, Usa) on 04/25/2013

Hello, folks. I am writing about some alternative information about bladder prolapse, also called pelvic organ prolapse. Although I do not struggle with this condition, I very much want to avoid it, as it obviously can lead to lots of pain and possibly ineffective surgeries. Also, it can affect anyone, regardless of gender, age, or previous pregnancies (or lack of). Men are not immune from Pelvic Organ Prolapse! If I can advise any one thing, I would absolutely avoid prolapse surgery at all costs. They have been shown to not only be ineffective at treating the issue and stopping the prolapse, but also can contribute to more pain and risk of further surgeries! That doesn't sound like a fair trade-off to me. However, the road to recovery may require many different avenues to explore and lots of hard work.

I am not at all an expert, but I wanted to pass along this information as I feel it is vital for everyone to learn about how to heal our bodies and live in the most natural way possible. I follow Katy Bowman's blog for this reason. She is a biomechanist, mother, and natural movement specialist that has dedicated her life to helping people understand and use their bodies in the most mechanically appropriate way. Two blog posts specifically address pressure issues like prolapse, here:

http://www.alignedandwell.com/katysays/under-pressure-part-1/

And

http://www.alignedandwell.com/katysays/push-em-out-push-em-out/

To summarize very briefly, she explains how and why our organs may be pushed out of their normal spaces and talks about steps to rectify these issues. Some people will find relief by letting go of internal pressure (which may be harder than it sounds), aligning your body appropriately (which is NOT the same as posture! ), and strengthening your pelvic floor (not tightening! ) I believe that diet, supplements, kegels, gentle exercise and other remedies can also play a part in healing this unfortunate condition. The information she presents is vast and thorough, with many conditions connecting together as our body parts are connected. I encourage anyone to check out her information and see how she can help you.

Please know that this will be very intensive and mindful work, as it is unraveling years (decades) of habits that have accumulated in unbalanced loads on the body. You might need to follow up with someone who is familiar with the issues presented. Katy's blog is filled with free, useful information, but she also runs an educational business dedicated to teaching better practices to movement specialists like yoga and Pilates instructors, doulas and midwives, physical therapists and chiropractors, and more. There may be someone in your area that can help you on your journey to overcome prolapse. She is not the only one teaching this information, but I don't know anyone else specifically.

I suggest starting with these two blog posts and then moving on to the posts directed towards the pelvic floor in general. The information is practically unlimited and affects issues like back pain, foot and leg pain, pregnancy issues, balance, digestion, exercise pain, carpal tunnel syndrome, bunions, and it goes on and on.

I hope someone gets relief by reading this.

Replied by Mary
(Clemmons, Nc)
09/20/2015
10 posts

Thank you Tamara for the info and I intend to check it all out. I am new to this research about prolapse as I didn't know there was any cure for it. I am in my late seventies and have had a prolapse for about two years now. Amazingly I am a fitness instructor for seniors at a local community center so you'd think I'd be the last person to have problems with a prolapse, considering all the exercises I do....strength training and low impact aerobics. Of course having had five children hasn't helped my internal organs because I had difficult deliveries with most of them. Anyway, I do take a lot of supplements in both capsule form and tablets, but I don't believe the capsules are the culprit. I desperately need to get some relief because I've started having real problems with irritation due to the prolapse being so far down and lately I've had some bleeding too. My husband is pushing me to have surgery but I refuse to go that route. I appreciate all the input from everyone on this site and will be forever grateful for any and all the help I can get. I intend to check out those links you posted, so hopefully my life will be a bit easier if I can get some relief.

Blessings to all.

Replied by KT
(Usa)
09/21/2015

Dear Mary,

I am in my late sixties. I am sure you have read several of my posts about my breech births and POP. Until you stop ingesting any capsule you'll never know. By the process of elimination, through trial and error, I know it's what caused mine.

MSG is a nerve stimulant and can stimulate some nerve cells to death. Depending on the size of the capsule it contains 11-14 mg. of MSG. Ligaments hold organs in place. This is not documented in a medical journal but since ligaments have nerve cells it makes sense to me that ligament nerve cells are being destroyed by ingesting any source of MSG. Because I had made attempts to eliminate hidden sources of MSG from my diet, the only source left was the capsule.

My "bulge" is stool collected in the rectum. Have you tried using tampons? Before I became aware of the capsule(s) being the cause, I sometimes had to use two tampons. They pushed things out and back where they belonged. A couple of times I folded a paper towel so it encompassed the tampon, dipped it in Witch Hazel and shoved that in. That's how I discovered the bulge was accumulated stool and/or gas. (only use Bounty or Viva as they are lint free).

I agree with you about not wanting surgery. I've heard about lawsuits being filed due to irreversible damage from that surgery. Once in awhile, if I'm going to attempt a lot of walking/shopping, I'll insert a tampon for a preventative measure along with practicing Kegels while walking.

You may be affected by the various binders and fillers in your other supplements. GMO's have permeated our food supply in one way or another so, not only is our food affected, the binders and fillers are being manufactured from these...then, there is the addition of hidden sources of manufactured glutamic acid (MSG). If you take any protein powder, that's another source.

Please consider trying the tampons and lubricating jelly for awhile. They really do help. I get the super plus. I limit the use to four hours at a time unless I used it overnight, which was a rare occurrence.

Replied by KT
(Usa)
09/22/2015

I submitted the importance of using lubricating jelly on top of the Witch Hazel dipped tampon to keep adequate vaginal moisture but do not see it here. This is important. Sometimes I insert the jelly with an applicator a couple times a week. Witch Hazel is drying and you want to keep this area moist. I was using the Premarin cream but feel this caused me a blood clot in one of my legs so I stopped it after I saw warnings advertised. It was also too expensive.

Replied by Silvia
(Millersville)
09/22/2015

One nutmeg capsule a day helps me with bladder prolapse very much. You can't find them in stores, though. You have to buy the capsules empty and buy nutmeg at the store and fill them yourself. But it is worth it. I take it first thing in the morning, with or without food. I don't know how long it took to notice results, but if I miss a few days I notice the prolapse getting worse.

Helen
(Suffolk)
03/17/2024

For anyone not wanting to use capsules, an easy way to swallow powder doses is to make a cream-cheese bon-bon.

Use firm cream cheese (or vegan version) scoop with a soup spoon, empty your powder into the middle, then put more cheese on top. Can be swallowed in one gulp. I use garlic and herb as it seems able to mask unpleasant tastes.


Multiple Remedies
Posted by Sandra (London, U.K.) on 04/17/2009
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Hi

Does anyone know of anything that helps get rid of prolapses?

I've had a prolapse of the bladder for a few years, it's where an organ in my case the bladder, (but it can be other organs like the uterus), falls out of position. In some extreme cases the uterus can come outside of the body, but my case isn't as extreme as that.

I've tried a lot, acupuncture, herbs (chinese and western),arvingo abdominal massage, castor oil packs, visualisation, supplements, maca, bluegreen algae, blackstap just to improve my nutrition and I'm fairly healthy, but it's resistant to any change.

I'd love to hear from anyone out there who was able to do anything about this condition or has any tips. I do worry about what will happen in my forties, whether it will get much worse, lead to another prolapse etc..

Thanks

Replied by Del
(Winnipeg, Manitoba)
05/18/2009

I heard many years ago that a slant board does wonders for a prolapsed bladder. Please post the results if you try it.

Replied by Caregiver
(Fresno, Ca)
03/07/2013

A Prolasped bladder can get worse. As a caregiver, I've seen bladder protruding out of the vaginal area with the elderly. Not qualified for surgical proceedure due to age.

Replied by Carolyn
(Selwyn, New Zealand)
10/03/2014

Google "pelvic ball". Works great!!

Replied by Charity
(Faithville, Us)
02/27/2015

Anxiety / fight or flight syndrome can cause organs to fall. When the body goes into survival mode, it stops processing digestion or has a burst of diarrhea. The intestinal tract starts tensing either way, putting strain on the abdomen. If there is no stool left after diarrhea ,the tensing muscles alone can cause fatigue and let the organs drop. With constipation there is the added weight of the stool putting pressure on the muscles and when it passes the space it held, opens a gap for the organs to further drop.

Get in touch with your emotions, heal your memories, work on decreasing day to day stress in your life. Keep positive affirmations and love yourself well. Nourishment will help but if you stay in survival mode you won't recover.


PT

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Posted by Juliette (USA ) on 08/16/2019
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For those with pelvic organ prolapse please look in to physical therapy. There are therapists that specialize in pelvic health. I have been going to PT for a couple of months and have found it to help me very much. I no longer must plan every outing around the availability of restrooms. They help you isolate specific muscles to strengthen and give you exercises and make sure you are doing them correctly. Juliette


Rebounding

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Posted by Tanya (Townsville, Queensland, Australia) on 02/05/2010
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My bladder weakness and slight prolapse is improved with rebounding on a mini trampoline. I do kegel pelvic floor exercises, albeit inconsistently, however rebounding 7 mins twice daily (I started at 2 mins and build by 1 daily) has given me the best result. After 1 week I have already noticed that leakage on jumping is almost nonexistent.

Replied by Francisca
(Michelbach-le-bas, France)
02/07/2010

I am suprised not to find rebounding (or trampolining as we call it here in Europe), mentioned more often on this site. I discovered it a while ago when I was trying to diminish my myopia. Rebounding works for a lot of ailments and is a great way to exercise too. First I bought a cheap one in a sports shop and after that a more expensive one from my optometrist. I really prefer the second one and never use the first one anymore although the second one is many times more expensive. I would say that if you didn't try the better ones you will be perfectly happy with the cheaper version. I bought a great exercise DVD (a pity one can't name products here) and I really have great fun. Many times I just play some CD I like and do the moves I want. If the weather is good I do it outside on the terrace. I would really recommend this kind of exercise to anybody, young and old and if you have children this is also a great way to have fun and stay healthy and fit at the same time! The benefits of rebounding are huge, you can look them up on the Internet. I couldn't believe it that I had never heard of it other than as a play tool for children.

Replied by Marilyn
(Oswego, Il)
12/11/2010

Just found out I have vaginal prolapse. Wouldnt this make the organs fall more with the jumping like that?

Replied by Gingermegs
(Sydney, Nsw Australia)
09/04/2011
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WARNING- I tried rebounding and it made me get a prolapse or at least made a slight one much worse. I googled this and several women and sites said rebounding can cause it.

I am going to be checked by a specialist and may need surgery. It is much more pronounced when I am tired. I have Sjogren's which makes me constipated. I used to be able to strenghthen my bladder with Kegels, but it is just getting worse as I get closer to 60.

Replied by Joy
(Battleground, Wash)
02/22/2013

I have this problem plus a few others. I have noticed some helps along the way. I had physical therapy and kegals and that was helpful but other issues added complications to the mix. Hormone creams helped with muscle tone and then magnesium and vit D also helped balance the hormones. The battle is still on for me but I walk daily and keep constipation under control as it wreaks havok on the pelvic floor and toxicity. I am trying to get rid of hepatic liver cysts that are putting a load on my core at the moment with milk thistle and alfalfa tablets. I had cysts removal surgery but it didn't work. I love my inversion table to get the bladder to go up for a break from the pressure. Recently bought an exercise ball to sit on to use core muscles and it is less painfull to sit on than a chair. On bad days I use my pessary from my Ob/Gyn....hope that helps... Let me know if you find any answers.

Replied by KT
(Usa)
10/21/2013

Joy, I read in "Latest Posts" a problem you were having with painful prolapse. I could not reply right away and when I came back to search for that post I could not locate it. I wanted to warn you that the painful "bulge" you feel may not be just your bladder. It could be a build up of stool that is collecting in your colon/rectum and pressing against your vaginal wall. Using one or two super plus tampons dipped in witch hazel and/or some lubricating jelly for that dryness can push the "prolapse" back so you are able to expel the stool...even gas can contribute to the bulge. If you cannot get the stool out it can either become malignant or gangrene can develop.


Red Raspberry Leaf

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Posted by Mrs. Hill (Fayetteville, Ar) on 05/22/2013
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I am in my forties and have given birth naturally to several babies, including some ten pound babies. This is not easy on the pelvic floor and after my last few babies I realized my uterus and bladder were prolapsing. (Midwife says everything is prolapsing! ) It is particularly bad after a birth. It usually gets somewhat better in a few months. However, after my last baby it never got better. (He is almost 2. ) Espeically at the end of the day, my bladder would be uncomfortably low.

Recently, I had a very long day and realized my bladder wasn't low or bothering me. Then I realized it hadn't been bothering me for a couple of weeks. I am pretty sure it is because of Red Raspberry Leaf tea! I started drinking this tea daily several months ago since it is so good for the female system. I have been drinking LOTS of it--3-4 cups a day, faithfully! It is the only thing different that I have been doing. Today I checked a favorite book of mine, "Practical Herbalism. " Sure enough, in the description of Red Raspberry, the author references a older book that talked about using Red Raspberry Leaf for pelvic prolapse!

I was figuring I would just have to have surgery to get everything fixed "up. " But I know people that have done that and had less than wonderful results. Plus, I don't really want to have surgery.

This is a slow way to heal a problem and my problem isn't as severe as it could have been, but it is a cheap and easy and safe and healthy solution for an uncomfortable problem.

If you try this, use mostly Red Raspberry Leaf in your tea. You can also add in some nettle and alfalfa for nutrition or some kind of mint for flavor. I mix my own dry herbs. Then I put 3 T. of the herb mixture in a quart jar and pour boiling water over it. I let it steep for 15 minutes. (Do not keep on the heat. ) Then I strain out the herbs and sweeten. I drank almost a quart a day for months. You can buy tea bags and use 3 - 4 a day, making sure to steep for 15 minutes to extract the maximum benefit from the herbs. Lots of pregnancy teas or women's teas will have lots of red raspberry leaf in them if you don't want to bother making your own mix.

Just for completeness, I do eat healthy, whole foods, made a home, not a lot of sugar, lots of water (including Apple Cider Vinegar, but I have done that for years. ) I also try to get out and walk several times a week, just a mile or so. I do think keeping the muscles strong is important and would like to get more and better excercise, but I am kind of busy raising kids. :)

Hope that helps someone!

Replied by Joy
(Battleground, Wash)
05/23/2013

Thank you for this post on red raspbery leaf tea. How do you dry your leaves for the least amount of mold spores?

Replied by Mrs. Hill
(Fayetteville, Ar)
05/23/2013

When I said I make my own, I meant I mix my own tea together but I buy the leaves from reputable sources locally or online. I usually get organic ones.

Replied by Joy
(Battleground, Wash)
05/24/2013

I got some leaves from a neighbor today, lots of organic garndeners in my area. Did some research online and they said you could glean them from streambeds and dry them and store them. I boiled 2 cups water and put in two leaves and turned off water and let it sit. Tastes good, kinda sweet but not sugary

I buy drying hangers from the dollar store/asian market and a dozen or so clothesline clips hang on a plastic circle from the hanger and I hung a stem of three leafs on each one to dry by the woodstove.

Replied by Cystocele Constipation Help
(Usa)
02/18/2015

Hi, I just stumbled upon this conversation. I have a cystocele and have experienced horrible constipation. My solution has been Acacia Root powder. It has made my bowels normal looking, normal feeling, and regular. I highly recommend it to those experiencing constipation. You can buy it on Amazon.com and read people's reviews. Seems to work for a lot of other people too. If you need something cheaper, I've been told that raw potato starch powder works the same way.


Sunbathing

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Posted by Anon (Anon, Us) on 08/23/2016
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Prolapsed Bladder:

Sunbathing has helped me and getting the sun close to the problem helps even more.... my prolapse is rarely painful like it was, since frequent sunbathing (2015-2016), not burning...but 15 -30 minutes at the right hours for healthy vitamin D. It helps many hormonal systems and heals skin issues (vitilligo) and I feel better. I also tan slightly under arm pits and under breast where sun rarely shines and cancers tend to form.


Tampons

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Posted by KT (USA) on 02/20/2023
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A lot has happened since I posted last and I have not been on here for quite a while. I'm having trouble navigating on this updated site and don't know if this is the appropriate place to post this but wanted to report I am still successfully using tampons once in awhile for prolapse. I am happy with my discovery about this issue.

KT

Replied by Leanne
(Capitola, CA)
10/03/2023

I'm in my 70's and have a stage 3 uterine prolapse. I welcome any advise about using a sea sponge for support.

I've tried tampons, and while they do hold everything in place ... which is wonderful ...they become uncomfortable.

Too dense and dry, even with some lubricant on the tip. Since there is more chance of getting a bladder infection when there is a prolapse, I am concerned about the keeping a sponge sanitary. Any insight would be appreciated.

Hollyhock
(America)
10/04/2023

Has your doctor suggested a special girdle to help hold things in place? I would look into it.

Mama To Many
(Tennessee)
10/05/2023

Dear Leanne,

I am so sorry to hear it. Prolapse is miserable.

I have found that drinking 3-4 cups of red raspberry leaf tea daily does help with prolapse.

Also, I go to a physical therapist that specializes in prolapse. She has helped me a lot.

~Mama to Many~

Sherri
(Seattle)
10/08/2023

Hello Leanne,

There are two women who reversed their stage 3 prolapse using holistic remedies that addressed the root causes. Some of which involve scar tissue remediation (scar tissue myofascial release), specific exercises called the Hypopressive method, skeletal misalignment treatments, diet, essential oils, steaming, etc....

1. https://moonrise.health/i-healed-prolapsed-naturally/

Filippa Odevall, Co-Founder.

2. https://www.wholewoman.com

Christine Kent, RN, Founder - resolves skeletal misalignment as a cause.

I hope their experiences and cures offer further inspiration and insight to you!

Yochana
(Oklahoma)
02/15/2024

I have done much for uterine prolapse. Some things I have done are I think are "universal". 1) 2 Raspberry leaf tea bags (or 2 teaspoons loose) steeped at least 15 minutes to get max benefit. 2). Bath Epsom salts with essential oils (consult an aromatherapist or essential oil book for women and babies). Depending upon how miserable Soak 1-3 times a day for 20-45 min. 3) DHEA/Estriol suppository is a must (hyaluronic acid suppository if cancer challenged).

judith
(usa)
08/17/2024

Where does one get a DHEA/Estriol suppository?

Leanne
(Capitola CA)
10/05/2023

My doctor didn't suggest any kind of support, however I did find one online, that has also been mentioned on this site. I wear it every day, and it does help to keep the prolapse more contained.

Leanne
(Capitola CA)
10/05/2023

Thank you for the raspberry leaf tea idea. There is an herb store near me, so I will make a strong brew and report back the results ... after I try it for a bit.

I went to a physical therapist a couple of years ago, but not one who specialized in prolapse. Didn't realize that there was a speciality.

Replied by Susie
(Ny)
09/01/2024
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I use maxi pad that kind of fold in half and stick to clothes. It fills in the space where things might fall down to


Witch Hazel

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Posted by KT (Usa) on 06/06/2014

When needing to use a tampon I pour Witch Hazel in the lid and dip the end of the tampon in it. This will cause the end of the tampon to "fan" out and then I slowly apply the lubricating jelly. Because the tampon is soaked more with the Witch Hazel, I get more benefit from the jelly because obviously so much is not soaked into the tampon.



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