Holistic Therapy: Lupus (Systemic Lupus Erythematosus)

Margaret's Lupus Remedies  

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Posted by Margaret (Lockport, Il America) on 01/12/2009
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Hello, I had suffered with Lupus for two years before dietary changes improved my condition immensely.

First, you must stop drinking alcohol and smoking. It hinders all other things you are doing to improve your health.

Next, change your diet. Start including salmon, fruits, vegetables and green leafy salads. Drink lots of water. And finally add these supplements: vitamin E-100 IUs, Panothenic Acid -500 mgs and Manganese- 50mgs. Take these daily. I also took a strong multi-vitamin called "Stress tabs."

Although I can't get a doctor to say I am "cured." I have gotten them to use the words: "in remission."

My medical doctor said there is now research that vitamin E negatively affects the heart but temporarily it should be fine. (right?)

My Lupus disease was severe with rheumatoid arthritis, hair loss, blood clotting and severe fatigue. Now, you would never know I was ever sick. I am healthier than most women I know my age and younger.

Thank you for this website...you have changed my life for the better.

Replied by Joanne
Toronto, On

Hi Margaret. I am responding to a posting you submitted to Earth Clinic regarding lupus remedies.

Can you tell me how long it took before your lupus disappeared? For the stress tabs -what brand and what dosage mgs per day? Also, what made you take these supplements.

Replied by Sherry
Fort Wayne, Indiana
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Just wanted to share my story on lupus. In Dec of 2010 I went to see a intergrated doctor. Found my gluten numbers really high along with antibodies for lupus. Went gluten free and in only 2 months my lupus antibodies were gone! Just had a follow up visit and my antibodies are still gone. I say go gluten free. I also had my Vit D checked along with b12 and iron. If you live near a intergrated doctor I would recommend going. Good luck to all out there, Sherry

Replied by Kelle
Lafayette, In

Hi Sherry from Ft. Wayne. I just read your post. Any suggestions on an integrated doctor. I live in Indiana also. Thank you.

Replied by Lillian
Vass, North Carolina

Thank you, Margaret. Your thread made me feel like there is definite hope. I had no idea lupus could be caused by all these other elements. I'm very grateful for Ted's assistance. He's a gem!

Replied by David
Las Vegas, Nv Usa

to margaret: my wife has lupus and it's in her brain. Our doctor told us in 2005 that he had 2 other patients that had lupus in their brain and they both died within 2 years of diagnosis. I read a book by a Dr.Strand from colorado, and he had a list of vitamins and supplements to take. My wife takes a multi-vitamin, vitamins e and b complex, and c. She also takes grape seed extract, co-q10, fish oil, and l_glutathione. This may (2013) will be 8 years since she was diagnosed with lupus. also and the big thing for us is, as we are both christians, there have been a lot of friends and family praying for us. david


Posted by Bobbie (Jamestown, Pa) on 01/20/2011

Ted, I recently read an post on here answering a question about Miracle Mineral Supplement, & as I have thought of trying it to help get rid of my candida, I read it. I noticed you mentioned it has been used to treat malaria, as my Plaquenils also are. I have been on Plaquenil for a few years to treat the lupus I have.

Is there a danger if I take the MMS while I am on Plaquenil?

I am trying to remedy my Lupus by being on a candida diet, (since I have found this site) & I am doing the Borax thing along with the baking soda also. I have bought some probiotics, liquid, from the health food store, but noticed there is sugar in it, I am holding off on taking it.

Replied by Tom
Regina, Sk


Have you looked on Jim Humble's site yet for things?:


He now calls MMS "Master Mineral Solution" to try to answer his critics and detractors who say, among other things, that he is peddling snake oil!

Some links on his site are not active, but the 1000, 2000, & 3000 protocols even have videos up on You-tube.

An excellent search site for videos is www.zapom.com, which will find vids from every site on the net including the main ones like GoogleVid, Youtube, etc. Here is the example search for MMS:

http://zapom.com/mms mineral miracle supplement

There are many books on lupus, this one from 2004 with all high reviews, a rarity:


Also, there are many articles in a good search that show studies even within NIH that show a correlation of very low Vitamin D levels and lupus.

Replied by Bobbie
Jamestown, Pa

Tom, are you saying you think it is safe to take both my plaquenils & this mms stuff? The reason I asking is because they are both supposedly used to kill malaria, & I want to make sure they are safe to take together. I cannot find anything on Mr. Humble's site addressing this issue.


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Posted by Ingrid (Lawndale, California, USA) on 05/04/2009
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I suffer SLE & DLE Fibromyalgia and have a congested heart (regurgitating valves) for 6 years I am also Hispanic, NOT from Mexico, in my family there is no history what so ever of any immune diseases, the food we ate as children and the nutritional value was very high and healthy. I have taken all medicine there is or will be out to treat the decease, compounds, combined, cocktails nothing worked, I felt like a guinea pig, was 111 Lbs.when I started taking the meds, gained 70 Lbs. in less than 3 months with the steroids, which put more than I could handle anl along with the pain, was horrible. I was told about Organic Sulfer (Pure MSM) not combined with anything else in pill form but I had to take to many it was 45 pills a day, and still did not have relief, then someone else told me to take it in powder form, to take it untill the pain was gone, to start with one teaspoon, and increase the dosage untill my stomack felt warm and I felt as if I was going to get the runs, but not quite get them. So I did, got the powder form MSM (organic sulfer) not to be confused with "Sulfa" very diferent one from the other; I take 3 tablespoons in 2 ounces of warm water (to disolve faster) it's bitter, and I mean it, but when you have experienced the type of pain associated with Lupus you are willing to take almost anything, then I chase it with fresh squeezed orange juice vitamin "C" helps your body absorb it better and helps get read of the bitterness in your mouth after ingestion; my goodness that was the PANACEA of all inflamation in and out of my body. Doctors do not recomend it and will sometimes tell you that it does not work because they make no profit from it. Simple fact. This powder is totaly organic, no additives, no drugs of any kind I am not adverticing MSM, I don't sell it, I am just passing the information along; I doi the same way it was passed on to me, I can only tell you what it has done for me and the people I have shared it with. I even tell them not to buy it, I give them the powder to try, if they see the effect they need, then they can buy it, it's not expensive (compared to the meds Dr.s prescribe) I can move again, I am not cured, this powder makes my life livable and bearable, not simptom free, or decease free, but it allows me to leave and enjoy a bit of a better quality of life.

Replied by Mara

Do you take the 3 tablespoons of MSM just once a day? Can it be divided into more frequent doses?

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Posted by Shell (California) on 10/29/2017
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My 12 yr. old daughter was hospitalized in late Nov'16 (23rd Nov). She spent 48d ays in the UCSF hospital fighting for her life. Drs. has diagnosed her with lupus nephritis and ANCA vasculitis. As a result, her kidneys(CKD5) are affected and she went for dialysis until July'17. She was treated with and was treated with steroids, Rituximab(one dose), Cytoxan (6 doses). With lots of prayers and support, she came off from dialysis and is presently being treated at LPCH(Stanford). She was a perfectly healthy child up to this incidence and has never been sick. Recently her creatinine started going up she is losing her appetite and pain in her legs she is hardly able to walk. It seems her lupus flaring up causing her kidneys affected as well pain in legs and joints.

We are using a natural path where she is on many protocols such as magnesium, Galactose, mannose, Vitamin D, Mineral waters etc. we were hoping with the help of natural path and regular treatment we will be able to save her not to flare up. But it seems not happening. Her blood test results haven't shown any lupus or ANCA yet but we could she because it happened same when she was diagnosed and hospitalized. My husband and I can't sleep and very worried about her. However, very sure that there must be some solution for her kidneys and disease. Looking for ways to revive it and keep her safe from dialysis as much as possible.re

Dr is asking to give her IV steroid that might help her stopping the flare up and in kidneys as well.

Any Help or similar situations anyone have deal and were able to solve will be appreciated.

Replied by Tom


My prayers are with you and hope your daughter gets well really soon. I know it must be really difficult for your daughter and your family and as a parent you are doing your best.

My 11 year old daughter has been diagnosed with Lupus/Crohns last year. Doctors cannot pinpoint whether it is crohns or lupus since she had all the symptoms related to crohns and lupus both.

We started her on SCD (Specific Carbohydrate Diet) this year since Feb 2018. She has weaned off all her medication since Feb 2018 except proguanil which is given to Malaria patients. However this medication has shown good benefits with Lupus also.

Since Mar 2018 we are doing her blood test every 2 months and she is 100 % normal. All her results are coming as normal. I think the major benefit is because of SCD diet. You can google this to know more about SCD. I'm not sure whether it will help your daughter or please look into that.

Hope your daughter get well soon. Take care.

Replied by Timh

Shell: Need to find the root cause of Kidney disease. You need to do some medical history especially vaccines.

Basically there is a major toxicity issue going on here, which is why she is responding so poorly to conventional and alternative treatments. To help detox her body, in addition to her current ND regimen, add a very high quality multivitamin/mineral with added nutrients like green foods, digestive enzymes, etc. To eradicate infection in the gut, Oil of Oregano softgels plus Milled Flax Seed 2x daily with meals. Eat lots of Pineapple (ether fresh whole or canned) to help digestion and reduce inflammation) To help the Kidneys particularly, in addition to the Mannose, take a minimal dose of Dr Christopher's herbal "Kidney/Bladder" formula, and slowly increase to recommended dose for children or adults. Before retiring, take either Bentonite Clay or Activated Charcoal to remove toxins from the body.

Clean up the diet as much as possible. Very little or no processed sugars or food additives, and add healthy fats like Fish, Evening Primrose, and Borage Oil will help. Clean up house of organic or inorganic material. All chemical fragrances, perfumes, etc, must go. Replace air filter with something of high quality like a permanent washable filter or HEPA filter, or purchase a whole house indoor Air Purifier; also purify all water. Organic only household & body products can be found at most health-food stores, one online store I highly recommend is Mike Adam's (The Health Ranger) Natural News & Foods. Find healthy here . Hemp/CBD Oil will improve most any disease condition.

Replied by Mama To Many

Dear Shell,

I am so sorry - I am sure it is hard to sleep when you see your daughter suffer so much.

The thing that come to mind as I read your post that I would be considering if this were my daughter would be charcoal poultices over the kidney area at night.

Here is an interesting study about the use of charcoal in kidney disease and its ability to decrease creatinine levels. Now, the specific kidney disease, age of patient and way of administering charcoal are different in this study, but it does make me thing that charcoal would be something to consider. Especially since external poultices should not come with interactions with any medications.

And here is a story about a child with vasculitis on the brain with suspected lupus that was healed with charcoal. (Look about 1/5 of the way down the page.)

Some other things to consider would be nettle tea as a blood purifier; we have seen it do some wonderful things for children in our house. But I would make sure with the doctor that that was okay.

Please do keep us posted. I am praying for her!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Janet

Shell I have not had experience with these issues. For our family we use Teds information as he has been spot on through the years.

Here is his extensive information from Earth Clinic. The first email is his most recent re lupus. Janet


Posted by Peggy (Cresskill, NJ) on 09/19/2012

Hello all~~~ First let me say, I am glad to have stumbled on you all. Other patients, contributors, I have never soaked up so much information in all my life. Even with a strong medical background, instant connections were swirling around so quickly - I didn't know what I wanted to do first! The last twelve years has been a struggle living with SLE. My lungs & bones are affected, chronic pain due to bone degeneration, herniations, and compression fractures has left me but a sliver of the person I used to be. At 38, with three small children, my life seemed to be so far away. I knew the treatment was killing me. Treatment for my complications always involved high dose steroids, then chemotherapy, then supposedly a Lifetime of Immunosuppressive drugs..... If for nothing else, don't tell me I can't do something, or there isn't anything else you can do for me. Funny, that's exactly when Professionals start to blame symptoms on depression!

I found the closest, most trusted homeopath I could get to - now disabled & in a wheelchair due to pain. She was my first angel & I started on the road less traveled. I still don't believe that if anyone else had heard this prognosis they wouldn't have looked elsewhere for help. My journey began with alkalinizing & purifying all water, a liver detox and immune support. This truly was the only time I had feelings of what I used to be. I was capable of so little, I'm not sure how I got through with so little home support. Now, friends & family jumped on the "crazy" bandwagon. As they kept themselves busy, I improved. With the support of a pain interventionist, I can now walk 50 feet with a cane, food shop holding on to the cart & cook 5 nights/wk, the decent food my family needs too.

This year I found a second angel to build on the routine, I wanted to feel better & knew I could with support. Then I found you, found the first true hope & healing in all these years.... Now, if I can organize this plan, I will be very busy. I continue ph Balance, through clean, ionized water mixed with baking soda & ACV, candida support, dairy free probiotics & enzymes with meals, immune modulation with colostrum & peptides, neurological support with B vitamins & Antioxidants & free radical scavengers. I continue liver support & use DMSO for pain & inflammation. I have seen a glimpse of how good I will feel, as I have also had to move slowly due to Herxheimer reaction. I read as much as I can & see that many recommend following a celiac diet & new suggestions for vitamins & amino acids for energy & acupuncture for ongoing pain. I really needed to thank all of you for taking the time to post & care. I have never felt this level of hope. I know I have a long way to go, positivity seems to make all the difference. I only hope as I improve I can inspire someone as you all did for me & continue to pay it Forward... Thanks again~~~~~~~

Replied by Rsw
Uniontown, Oh

Dr. Gluck (a Harvard educated expert on LDN) had two aunts with lupus. He asked them if they wanted to try Low dose naltrexone. They did, and in a month they were both doing well. Lupus is an autoimmune disease that responds very well to LDN, a harmless, no side effect FDA approved drug. See www.ldninfo.org or read Julia Schopick's best seller, "Honest Medicine. ". Be well.

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Posted by Neal (Asheville, North Carolina Usa) on 02/20/2013

Hello Ted, I was wondering if you had any information about using salt therapy in the treatment of Lupus? By salt therapy I am referring to a manufactured salt micro climate similar to what is found in a salt mine. I have 'built' a micro climate of Himalayan and Polish salt from approximately 20 tons of salt mined from approximately 1-2 miles underground from salt that is about 200 million years old. This 'cave' is a controlled environment kept at between 67-72 degrees fahrenheit and 50-60% humidity. This mimics the conditions in a salt mine.

This type of treatment has been shown to be beneficial for respiratory problems (asthma, bronchitis, allergies), dermatologic problems (eczema, psoriasis, acne), hypertension, stomach disorders, stress, and some autoimmune diseases, but have not found specific guidelines for Lupus.

Could you let me know of any findings you have that might support this treatment for sufferers of Lupus. Thank you, Neal from Sola

Replied by Keri
West Virginia

Did the salt cave therapy ever help?


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Posted by Gricel (Dallas, Tx) on 01/11/2016
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I have lupus, with kidney related problems, I was on dialysis for 6 months and taking steroids before I started my road to recovery with natural remedies, my DNA us still positive but overall I feel good most of the time, I have taken many products over the years, but the ones that have worked the most are a multi vitamin with minerals.

I am a woman so I feel that hormones play a role in my lupus as well, so I also take DNA 50mg a day in combination with dong quai, damiana, and maca, I use half the dose as directed by the bottle.

For the inflammation I use fish oil, 2,000 mg per day or more sometimes, and for kidney I use kidney support from Tibetan Herbal Balance.

Even though my lupus is still active I don't have to take all the crap from the doctors, hope this helps other people

Posted by Deborah (New York, NY) on 04/01/2012
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Last year I was diagnosed with cutaneous lupus. I have two large skin patches one on my arm and one on my left butt cheek. These are itchy and feel bruised and have also atrophied to leave a concave indentation in my flesh. I am told that this is because the inflammation is in my subcutanaeous fat. I'd like to say I have found a cure for these but I have not - yet. HOWEVER. I began to have accompanying joint pain - terrible nipping pains and feeling constantly like I had been in a car accident - an all over feeling off stiffness and bad bruising. It was debilitating and depressing. Through exhaustive research, trial and error I have found two supplements that are working for me and have decreased the pain SIGNIFICANTLY. One is CM - cetyl myristoleate. I would advise Googling it and doing your own research but I could find no down side. The other is Perna - green lipped mussel extract - a fairly high dose. I began taking these two things together and initially my symptoms worsened but suddenly and quite dramatically the pain lifted. I do think these are worth a try for anyone suffering from chronic joint pain. They certainly changed my life.

One more note on the lupus. I have recently been seeing a new and very good naturopath. Through stool testing for parasites we discovered that I have a very high level of the parasite blastocystis hominis. Also of candida. I knew about the candida and that it was probably part of the lupus causing package but the parasite is a new and interesting development. I will be treating both of these things appropriately with herbs and continued healthy diet (I am completely gluten, caffeine, dairy, soy, alcohol, sugar, nightshade and red meat free; I am a great cook and its really not as hard as it sounds) and will be very curious to see the health benefits of getting rid of these critters. My naturopath feels that they could very likely be a major contributing factor to the jangling of my nervous/immune system that caused the lupus. I will report back with results and would love to hear if anyone else has discovered a parasite/lupus link. If I can help or support anyone else in their healing journey please let me know. Thanks and good health to all.

Replied by Chris
San Luis Obispo, Ca

I would live to try something homeopathic, but my body us so reactive right now. My Dr.Is not supportive of supplements. This site actually made me more scared. Reading people with Lupus die 10 years after diagnosis? I have never read that. The lists of suppliments and ideas are great but where do you begin? It so overwhelming!

Replied by Rsw

Hi Chris,

The first thing I would try for Lupus is LDN (low dose naltrexone). It will help moderate your immune system, not kill your immune system like many of the current medical options do. It has been known to be effective for Lupus. It can be taken with any other drug EXCEPT opiate based drugs, because they both compete for the same receptor sites, and LDN will always win, potentially throwing an opiate drug user into a dangerous withdrawal. It is a FDA approved drug at 50mg/day for addicts, but has been found to be very effective for a wide range of autoimmune, and other diseases at 1- 4.5mg/ day by a Harvard educated physician. It is out of patent and very inexpensive. You can read the official LDN site here:


That site will enable you to sign up for a Yahoo LDN Group with over 12,000 members who use LDN for various reasons, many with MS. They are very helpful and willing to answer any questions you may have. It is a non-toxic, non-addictive, no side effects drug that can be taken any time of day, so if sleep issues are a problem, it can be taken in the morning. I hope you will check it out. I have taken it myself for six years. You can also read about it in Julia Shoepick's best seller, "Honest Medicine." Best wishes.

Replied by Margie
Harrison, Arkansas

Wondering how the parasite results went?

Replied by Desma
Knoxville, Tn

Hi Deborah,

Curious to see how the blastocystis hominis treatment worked for you. I am also trying this.

Posted by Ineke Leer (Walker, MN) on 04/10/2009

Hi: My name is Ineke, I found out I had Lupus 4 weeks ago. I am on predisone and hydroxychoroquine. What a combo.....The predisone only works if taken in doses of 30 mg a day or higher. Its not the drug for me to be on. Can't sleep through the night and it makes me very edgy. Anyway I started taking Olive Leaf extract 2 capsules twice daily, msm 2000 mg twice daily, probiotic enzyme two tablets a day, purce bovine colostrum from first milking, and I had adjusted my diet, I do notice that sugar.....bad......refined carbs, bad.....so far it hasn't made a difference, buts its only been 5 days since I started the natural supplements,, but, I am hopeful for results.

Any advise is welcomed.

Replied by Theola Williams
Gainesville, Florida

Stay Motivated and try not to stress!!! MESSAGE TO ALL!!!

Posted by Ineke Leer (Walker, MN) on 04/10/2009

Hi: My name is Ineke, I found out I had Lupus 4 weeks ago. I am on predisone and hydroxychoroquine. What a combo.....The predisone only works if taken in doses of 30 mg a day or higher. Its not the drug for me to be on. Can't sleep through the night and it makes me very edgy. Anyway I started taking Olive Leaf extract 2 capsules twice daily, msm 2000 mg twice daily, probiotic enzyme two tablets a day, purce bovine colostrum from first milking, and I had adjusted my diet, I do notice that sugar.....bad......refined carbs, bad.....so far it hasn't made a difference, buts its only been 5 days since I started the natural supplements,, but, I am hopeful for results.

Any advise is welcomed.

Replied by Mona
Ny, Us

I caught an infection from trying on pants in a store that someone had before and now I have the disease. I find that if you try homeopathy, there was clearly no other choice after trying traditional medicine. I also find that with homeopathic medicine, nothing happens at first until 6mo-1 yr. later and then it finally works. Problem is with that though, if you don't know what you're doing and you're just testing alternative therapies, you can waste a long time on the wrong alternative medicine.

Replied by Theola Williams
Gainesville, Florida
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My name is Theola, from Gainesville, FL. I have been dx with Lupus for two years, and it has been a real long journey. I have been drinking hot sage tea which helps with my inflamation and joint pain. I hate taking steroids bc it makes me eat like a run away slave and gain weight. I'm starting to take more vitamins, and its really helping. Im thanking god im still here. Bless all!!!

Replied by Marie
Houston, Tx

Can someone please help me? I have been dealing with a skin burning problem for over 10 years when exposed to UV computer screens, TVs, lighting in stores, regular light, and sun. It's feels like a burn/inflammation. I think it might be connected to lupus as I had the rash 10 years ago. The rash never came back but the burning is relentless. I've tried fish oil, turmeric, acv, eating only veggies, vit e (which helps a little), cinnamon, and so so many other things to no avail. I work at a computer for 8 hours so I can't escape the burn. My whole life revolves around avoiding any kind of light, cooking in the dark, going blind b/c I have to turn down my computer screen so dark so I don't burn. Has anyone heard of this? Is there a cure? I'll try anything!

Replied by Rush

you haven't been around any giant hogweed have you? Contact can make your skin still sensitive and burn in light even years later


Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe

have you tried evo (coconut oil)?

Replied by William

If it were me, I would try tomato paste mixed with olive oil. Google that and see what you think.

Replied by Constance

Look into Electromagnetic Frequency poisoning.....happens with smart meters on your house and other electronics......computer routers, smart cell phones, digital home phones, etc.

Replied by Brian

Sounds like porphyria.

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Posted by Altaf (Mumbai, India) on 08/17/2013

Ted: my sister aged 32 yrs was diagnosed of systemic lupus erythromatosis (SLE) in 2007 and has been on med: steroid (Prednisolone), non-steroid (methotrexate and hydroxychloroquine), warfarin (Acitrome), metaxcel (for endocarditis) and much more with some improvement in the past 6 years. Recently I came across this website with natural remedies which I got interested to try for my sister. I have recently (13/08/2013) started her with baking soda (Na-bi-carbonate) (1/2 tea spoon in half glass of filtered water) in the morning on empty stomach and before bedtime (at least 2hrs after dinner). Today (17/08/2013) morning (it was baking soda off day) when she took 2 teaspoons of sea salt with one glass of water on empty stomach (as suggested by you in one of your article on 'want to know top 10 lupus supplements') which I thought worth trying. But she could hold this in her stomach for an hour before she vomitted and soon followed by diarrhoea. Is this expected and okay? I plan to start her on borax (1/8th tea spoon in one liter of water throughout the day) from next week (26/08/2013) so that she can have enough pH buffering from baking soda. I would appreciate your comment on the sea salt issue and any suggestions or changes to help us implement these remedies correctly and efficiently. Thanks. God bless!

Replied by Rsw
Uniontown, Oh

Altaf, Here is a database for users of Low Dose Naltrexone and Lupus: http://www.ldndatabase.com/Lupus.html

If you google LDN and lupus you will see other experiences of people with lupus successfully using FDA approved, low cost, no side effects LDN. And the best part, for you, is that it can be bought without a prescription at any pharmacy in India. (Trade names Revia, Naltima, etc.) If you get 50 mg. Tablets, simply dissolve one tablet in 50 ml. distilled water. Buy a children's syringe and withdraw from 3 to 4 ml of the solution and take it once every 24 hours, usually before bed. (No more often than this.) So easy. Store the rest of the solution in the refrigerator. Best wishes for improved health for your sister. For others reading this, look at www.ldninfo.org to see how it successfully treats a host of autoimmune diseases, including MS, Crohn's disease, UC, and many more. Published clinical trial are shown for Crohn's, AIDS and ongoing for MS and Fibro.

Replied by Altaf
Mumbai, India

Hi: Any suggestion on whether should she stop her steroid and non-steroid meds before starting LDN OR can she start LDN and continue using her other meds and gradually get off them after seeing the response of LDN (since her regular meds are in the morning and this LDN would be at bedtime, amply spaced out) OR should she first gradually pull off all her other meds (possibly cleared from system) and then start LDN? Thanks again!

Replied by Altaf
Mumbai, India

Thank you so much for this precious piece of information! I read the links tha info on LDN its simply amazing and I am surprised why docs do not metion about it. I will buy them and start from today itself and keep updating at earthclinic. God bless!!

Replied by Rsw
Uniontown, Oh

Hi Altaf, LDN can be taken with steroids and any other medication EXCEPT opiate based drugs. LDN and opiates both compete for the same receptors, and LDN will always win. This could put someone who is taking opiates into a serious and dangerous withdrawal. So, any medication is OK with LDN EXCEPT opiates. You can also join the Yahoo LDN Group that is mentioned at the www.ldninfo.org site, and the other members (over 10,000 people) are always willing to answer any questions you may have. Please let us know how your sister is doing. Best wishes!

Replied by Noma
Johannesburg, South Africa

Hello everyone ; I was diagnosed with Systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) in 2012; and I had difficulty accepting the diagnosis as I have always been a health freak. My 2 weaknesses were dairy products and chocolates. I was diagnosed by my GP, then went to a homeopath who confirmed the diagnosis a year later. I then discovered that there are ways to manage this sickness, of which one is to go the natural way.

I am a good cook, but sometimes I find it challenging to stay away from red meat, since I am also in the food industry. My problem is I do not pass any stools, I can go on for more than a month without going to the loo. My diet is mostly veggies, fruits, grains and beans, chicken and fish. I dont get constipated but my question is where is this food that I eat going to? I have a huge appetite, but its like there is a worm inside me that is moving up and down, and the sad part is I can feel it moving, is this normal for lupus patients? I feel like its eating me up inside especially since I am always heating up in my waist area and in my kidneys.

I am taking my meds and supplements, but I prefer the natural way. If and when I do go to the loo, there is there is practically nothing that reflects the amount of food that I eat all this time. I take a lot of detoxifying herbs, but I just urinate a lot but no stools. Any advice would be welcomed as I am always having a pain and heaviness)) in my groin especially the right side. Thanking you all in advance.

Replied by Timh

Noma: Parasite infestations almost always cause both digestive & immune disorders as a consequence. Here is a link to the E.C. page for this condition. http://www.earthclinic.com/cures/parasites.html

Roundworm & Tapeworms are the worst, although the Flukes can kill the host over time. Try all the herbal wormers first and if you're not feeling any better after a few weeks or couple of months, you will need pharmaceutical grade meds to eradicate the devils. CureZone has extensive post on this condition.

Posted by Wormgirl1 (Lowell, Ma Usa) on 07/04/2011

I read this post with interest and noticed that although it has received a lot of positive comments, only one person has given a "case report" of efficacy. That's too bad. I wish people would follow through and post their follow-up.

Ted, I also notice you commented on a low incidence of lupus in your native Thailand. I believe this might be because people in S.E. Asia are colonized with helminthic parasites, which are showing a lot of promise as therapies for several autoimmune problems in the developed world, including asthma, allergies, MS, and inflammatory bowel diseases. Parasites get a bad rap, but they may "train" the immune system not to overreact to harmless substances. Antibiotics kill off "good" bacteria, but we also lack parasites, which in low numbers may have a role in keeping us well.

I think you are dead on in altering pH as a method of degrading gut biofilms, which I believe create conditons for autoimmunity, but healthy gut flora are also important.

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Temecula, California


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Owensboro, Kentucky

I don't know if anyone has replied to you question. I have just now found this site and information. It is entirely health to continue the baking soda every day if you want. Personally I have not been using it because I use lemon or apple cider vinegar, but may add the baking soda as well. Baking soda is NOT the same as baking powder!

Posted by Crystalbailey076 (Salyersville, Kentucky) on 08/17/2009

I have systemic lupus and I have being using the borax and baking soda. I have read conflicting info on the amount of mixture to use. Some state 1 liter divided into 5 equal doses (one dose per day for 5 days), but then others state 1 liter of mixture per day for five days, which would be 5 liters in five days. So which should I be doing? and I would also like to add the sea salt and the acv but can I add it with the borax and baking soda??

Please respond because I really need some relief. One liter a day is alot different that 1/5 of a liter per day and I would not be getting the maximum results. thanks

Posted by Tammy (Caroga Lake, New York) on 07/01/2009

Hello Ted! Thanks so much for your feedback on this site. I have been doing the Lupus treatments with borax/hydrogen peroxide/baking soda, etc. I just wanted to know with the Vitamin D3, Do you take it WITHOUT calcium? Or do you take it with it? I started taking the Vitamin D3, and noticed that some bottles contain calcium and some do not. But I noticed by reading comments about other supplements, that you say not to get it with calcium. I just want to make sure I am doing it right. Thanks so much again for all of your insight.

Posted by Tammy (Hemlock, Michigan) on 05/13/2009

I was wondering where to start, For 10 yrs i was told i had luekemia, then almost 2 yrs ago i had a mini stroke went to mayo clinic and was told never had luekmeia that i had lupus. I to also feel like I am loaded down with prescription drugs. I also take a blood thinner now too. I had no idea there were stages for lupus.What home remedys do u recomend and do i stop taking my regular medicines? I take a heart medicine also because the lupus has attacked a valve in my heart. Any information would be great Thank you