High Blood Pressure and Carditone

I am finally weighing in on Carditone for high blood pressure after having a fitness assessment at my new gym 3 weeks ago and discovering my systolic pressure was on the very high end! (165... maybe dropped 10 points when we tried it again an hour later.) I wasn't testing my BP very often but after that, bought a new arm cuff monitor and started taking measurements to make sure it wasn't a one-off reading. I had a wrist monitor and that one is really hit and miss when compared with the arm cuff. At home, same results -- upper number high, lower number normal range. I bought Carditone right away and have been taking just one at night, as recommended. After a few days, my systolic dropped into the normal range and has remained below 120 for the most part. I stopped taking it for a couple of days last weekend and on Monday, my systolic was back up. So right now, it looks like I need to take one a day to maintain normal bp.

Side Effects: It definitely causes some congestion, which dissipates during the day. Congestion is also much worse if I have significant gluten or dairy the day before... Anyway, just wanted to report back my results. Very happy with this product.

Here is the link to Art's brand new article on a supplement that can lower high blood pressure within 3 days.

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/high-blood-pressure-carditone.html

Thank you for sharing your findings, Art!

After months of use of Carditone for blood pressure control, I felt it was time to update due to a new development.

I started at the recommended dose of one herbal caplet per night and found Carditone very effective at controlling my blood pressure "in range", but after a month or more, it became apparent that Carditone was working too good, and I had to start taking one caplet every other night in order to not go too low on my pressure reading. This had been working very well for months, but two or three times, I forgot to take my every other night caplet. When I checked my blood pressure, it seemed fine.

Based on those experiences, I decided to try taking one Carditone caplet every third evening. I've been at this new dosing schedule for about 3 weeks now and I am still getting very good readings. I just took my blood pressure about 5 minutes ago, which was116/74 with a pulse rate of 74. On July 20, 2022, when I was already on one caplet every third night, my reading at 11:04 pm was 117/78 with a pulse rate of 67.

The main point being is that these are very good readings for me at a dose of just one caplet every third evening of Carditone. So at least for me, Carditone has seemed to have had a cumulative effect that seems to be lasting.

Carditone is not an inexpensive supplement, but with the need to only take one caplet every third night in my case, it is rather inexpensive for me now, but most importantly, it is much more effective that max dose of Amlodipine was for me taking it once per day. With Amlodipine I was never able to achieve these very good readings.

Another point I have noticed is that when I was on Amlodipine, taking a reading at 11:00 pm or later was almost always likely to give a very high blood pressure reading, but that is no longer the case! I always get good reading now at any time of the day or night.

My take away from this about Carditone is that if you are considering testing it, I highly recommend that you monitor your blood pressure regularly to make sure it is not dropping too low and if it is getting on the low side, definitely consider reducing your dose rate. Carditone allowed me to completely discontinue the max dose Amlodipine that my doctor had me on and I get good in range readings all the time now.

Art

Cindy,

I don't understand why you have so much negativity, but I am not interested in furthering the negativity that you are putting out. EC is all about sharing health remedies, not spreading negativity. There is already plenty of negativity in the world and I would rather not add to it. I have no idea of why you even bring up corruption, but that goes right along with the negativity that you are putting out and I am not interested in any of it.

Art

I bought Carditone by the brand Ayush Herbs. My blood pressure has been out of control for weeks even taking 3 prescription meds Enalapril 10 mg Labetalol 200 mg and Hydralazine 100 mg my blood pressure has been around the 200/100 range for a few weeks even taking beetroot powder & L-Arginine.

On the 25th of April 2022, I started taking Carditone, 1 pill the first day. No difference. But on the second day, it dropped to 170/78 pulse 71 and this was in the morning at 9:38 I took the Carditone around 6 am I can't wait to see what it's like in the morning. Great stuff. I believe I bought mine on eBay.

Cindy,

I report on what I use that has shown effectiveness in friends and no manufacturer pays me a penny for mentioning their product. The answer to your question is no.

Art

Robert,

When I first read your post, my first thought was, that was kind of an insulting thing for you to say to me, but after I thought about it for a moment, I could understand how it would be easy for someone who doesn't know me to think that I was just acting as a shill for this supplement manufacturer.

To be clear, I am not acting as a shill for the manufacturer of Carditone or any other supplement I recommend. If you look at my hundreds of posts on EC, that should become readily apparent. I do recommend supplements frequently, but I try to avoid naming specific brands unless it is a product such as Carditone as they are the only manufacturer of this specific product, so I have to name the specific product so people will be able to find and buy it.

Another example is that I have written many articles about melatonin and different health issues, but I can't ever remember naming a specific brand to buy unless someone specifically asked me about a specific brand of melatonin.

More recently I have written about Grape Seed Proanthocyanidin Extract and did name a specific product only after an EC member asked what specific product my friend had used to significantly reduce her asthma symptoms.

As regards me to linking to Amazon, I do that because they generally carry a larger selection of specific supplements and it is easier and quicker for me to just link to it. My preference would be to use other suppliers than Amazon because in my experience some supplement suppliers often offer significant discounts on their products whereas in my experience, Amazon does not or rarely does.

I hope that answers your question and if you decide to test Carditone, it would be very helpful for the EC community if you come back and share your experience with the product. I also highly recommend that you read the whole thread as opposed to just the original post because there is useful information in the replies.

A word of caution regarding Carditone, you should absolutely check your blood pressure regularly for the first year of use because I have found that Carditone has a cumulative effect on me and another friend where it was taking my blood pressure to low which can be very dangerous. This has allowed me over a period of months to lower my dose so that now I only need to take one caplet every third night instead of the manufacturer recommended one caplet every night and this keeps my blood pressure just below or at 120/80.

Good luck and I look forward to your update if you decide to test Carditone.

Art

To further update this thread about Carditone, my friend Dave who was also testing Carditone with myself and another friend, has found that even going to one caplet every third night was still lowering his blood pressure dangerously low (107/65, 105/61, 98/64, & 97/57 and I had asked if he thought it might be safer to only take one caplet once a week or every seventh day to allow his blood pressure to get back up into a safer range and then if it got too high try every 6th day. He said that was what he was planning to do immediately.

Dave mentioned to me recently that with the switch to taking one caplet every seventh night had allowed his blood pressure to get back to the 120~125/65~76 area, a much safer range to be in than the dangerously low level where he had gotten to at one caplet every third night.

Dave told me that he would update me if he needs to increase his dose to one caplet every sixth night.

Interestingly, the other friend who started testing Carditone with us, Barbara, is still at one caplet per night and that is keeping her blood pressure around 120~125 / 80~85 area.

So from this limited experience of the three of us, it is clearly very important to monitor your blood pressure very frequently for at least the first 6 months to a year if you plan to test Carditone.

Art

I just wanted to do a current (5/9/2022) update on our Carditone review for high blood pressure.

I talked with Dave and he did reduce his dose to one pill every other day instead of the recommended one pill per day and has been doing that for 3 weeks now and he has been keeping track of the results with daily monitoring of his blood pressure which he is keeping a log of. He said that his average blood pressure readings are staying below 120/80 with the reduced dose.

Barbara told me that after her very good initial results she stopped checking her blood pressure, but she texted me today and said that she finally checked her blood pressure today and it was 124/70 and she said she was very happy with the great improvement! She remains at 1 pill per day.

As to myself, my pressure readings continued to decline so I also decided to go to one pill every other day of Carditone, as Dave did. On the occasions when I missed a dose, I did not notice a rise in my blood pressure and that helped convince me to try one pill every other day. The results have been amazing with my average blood pressure reading maintaining below 120/80, similarly to Dave's results. Here is a list of my past week of readings plus today's reading :

1. 115/75

2. 102/68

3. 110/70

4. 105/70

5. 114/77

6. 121/75

7. 115/79

8. 110/68

These are better blood pressure readings than I was getting 30 years ago! None of us have noticed any side effects from taking Carditone. Overall, all three of us are very happy with the results and will definitely continue taking Carditone indefinitely!

Art

Thank you for sharing, Art.

My husband had the same quick long term results lowering his blood pressure from Cardiotone.

Hi Deirdre,

I'm very happy to hear that Carditone is working well for you! Please continue to monitor your blood pressure regularly as in some people, it has a cumulative effect and your blood pressure could potentially decrease more. This doesn't happen to everyone, but it did happen to me. I was fine at one caplet a day, but after a month or so I noticed it was going lower than optimal and I eventually had to switch to one every other night. Now my pressure is right in the normal range.

I had some stuffiness in my sinuses also, but that gradually went away and my sinuses are normal now.

Art

Interestingly, with my recent dose reduction of Carditone to one caplet every third night, I received a text message from my friend Dave who started Carditone around the same time and also got very good results. Dave had also found he was able to get by with just one caplet of Carditone every third night, but in his recent text message he told me that since his blood pressure is continuing to decline, he has now (8/1/22) decided to go to one caplet every fourth night!

He mentioned some recent blood pressure readings at 98/64, 107/65, 95/57 and 105/61. He further stated that the highest Systolic reading he got in July 2022 was 122 and the lowest was 61. I am going to have a longer discussion with Dave, but these readings are so low, I am going to suggest he try once a week dosing if his numbers do not significantly increase with the dose reduction to every fourth night.

I am grateful for this feed back from Dave as well as the fact that he monitors his blood pressure daily.

My take away from this is that it is imperative to test your blood pressure very regularly if you are using or testing Carditone for blood pressure control!

Art

Tom,

All of that is explained in the original post and thread.

You can buy Carditone here :

https://www.amazon.com/Ayush-Herbs-891501001111-Carditone-caplets/dp/B000S0CVDQ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=176Q75NT1YNR7&keywords=Carditone&qid=1659484791&sprefix=carditone,aps,231&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFQR01FUjlZSVI5MEcmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA1ODk1ODJHQlZMUUdUVE5SUTYmZW5jcnlwdGVkQWRJZD1BMDY4NzgyNzM2NkxQMDI5RTY4M0Imd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

Or from the manufacturer here :

https://www.ayush.com/store/cardiovascular-and-metabolic-support/carditone-60-cardiovascular-support-60-caplets

I suggest you read the original post and ensuing thread in order to get a better idea of dosing and its effects on different people :

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/high-blood-pressure-carditone.html

Art

dibro,

Prior to going on Amlodipine, I was on beetroot powder and it did lower my blood pressure, but not as effectively as Carditone and that is why I tried the Amlodipine that my doctor prescribed and ultimately Carditone to finally find something that normalized my blood pressure.

Art

I stopped the Carditone and started my meds and then a few days later I started taking the Carditone along with my meds. I take my blood pressure meds early in the morning and the Carditone at 8pm. My blood pressure was 120/75 this morning, so I think that the Carditone is assisting in my blood pressure. Yesterday my blood pressure was 124/74 and I know that my blood pressure hasn't been this low for a long time.

Abana by Himalaya Wellness Company is an ayurvedic blend of Herbs that sells online in the USA for about $6 for 60 tablets that contains herbs from vedic historical studies that is very effective in lowering Blood Pressure but whose primary purpose is for lowering cholesterol, reduces platelet adhesion, reduces triglycerides, reduces fatty acid levels by breakdown of lipids in the liver, and is a composite of 10 roots that are known to thin the blood. The ayurvedic history of herbs has been passed down from healers for over 5000 years. If you've grown tired of side effects from statins and blood pressure medicines, Abana may be what you should consider.

My blood pressure was in serious danger levels and has been brought down to normal. In fact, it states that taking two pills a day will lower blood pressure to safe levels after which one tablet can then be used for maintenance. I also read that it can safely be used for 6 months, then stopped for two weeks before continuing to use it. Testing your blood pressure daily is your gauge and would not take it without testing daily as your blood pressure can retreat to below safe levels as mine did.

Have taken this along with carditone without any side effects for 6 months. Will be reporting on my cholesterol levels at my upcoming blood screening in early September. Tried 4 different statins all with similar muscle cramping before starting this and have had no side effects since beginning.

Colleen,

I wrote to the manufacturer of Carditone, Ayush Herbs because of your experience and they replied to me this morning. This is what I wrote :

I do not know if this will help, but when I get nasal congestion, two things I use that help me are nebulizing food grade hydrogen peroxide, diluted in a saline solution. You can get more information from Dr's Mercola and Levy on Rumble. The other thing that works for me is a nasal spray with the brand name Xlear. These work good on my sinus issues caused by allergies, bacteria or viruses. I do not know about a reaction to a medication/supplement. Hope this helps.

Carol,

In this 2019 study using Carditone for blood pressure control, there is no mention of increased risk of cancer :

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6389760/

Here is a relevant quote from the study :

' Conclusions: The findings of this study suggest that the investigated dietary supplement is safe for long-term use in adults with prehypertension and stage I hypertension. Additional results of this study, particularly the increase in serum potassium and decreases in systolic and diastolic blood pressure, are promising and suggest that future research on this dietary supplement, or its ingredients, should further explore effects on blood pressure and biologic mechanisms of action, which may involve potassium-sparing and diuretic effects. '

Please ask your pharmacist which ingredient is cancer causing in the supplement and where they got their information from. Many supplements can be carcinogenic or toxic if the dose is too high. I think if this supplement was causing cancer in anyone it would have been banned a long time ago. Supplements with ingredients that are known to cause cancer generally have a black box warning label stating as much. Carditone has no such warning label and California would definitely require such a warning label if true.

In the study they tested for the level of Reserpine content in the supplements as it is a known cancer causing agent and they determined that the level of Reserpine was very low. Here is a relevant study quote :

' The finished supplement was analyzed for reserpine content via high-performance liquid chromatography and levels were below the lower limit of detection (<0.01%; Intertek, Champaign, IL). Lead analysis showed that levels were <0.2 ppm (Micro Quality Labs, Inc., Burbank, CA). '

R. Serpentina, an ingredient in Carditone has been suggested to cause breast cancer based on rodent studies, but the dosing used in these animals that caused breast cancer was very high as outlined in the following Mayo Clinic article :

https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/rauwolfia-alkaloid-oral-route/side-effects/drg-20069510#:~:text=Suggestions that rauwolfia alkaloids may, an increased number of tumors.

Here is a relevant quote from the article :

' Suggestions that rauwolfia alkaloids may increase the risk of breast cancer occurring later have not been proven. However, rats and mice given 100 to 300 times the human dose had an increased number of tumors. '

If this is what your pharmacist is basing their claim on, they should do a bit more research before spreading such misinformation. If you take 100 to 300 times the actual dose of anything, I think you are definitely going to have issues with toxicities of many types including cancer.

Art

Deborah,

Thank you for your husband's positive feedback to add confirmation to our experience with Carditone, now there are four of us that Carditone has lowered blood pressure readings for!

Art

I take 40 mg of Lisinopril and 2.5 mg of Amlodipine Besylate for high blood pressure. How does one tell his VA doctor about Carditone? Do I stop taking my medications when I start taking Carditone? I had a TBI while serving in the Air Force and was in a coma for 16 days. Most VA doctors frown on taking a supplement for high blood pressure and I'm not sure on how to go about changing to Carditone.

Patrick,

Given your blood pressure readings it may be worth reading the following links :

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/melatonin-for-cardiovascular-disease.html

https://www.earthclinic.com/melatonin-for-stroke-recovery-and-prevention.html

I'm not trying to scare you, just thinking preventatively and trying to be real about your situation.

In case, Carditone does not work for you, because clearly it does not work for everyone, or if it is not effective enough on its own, as we have also seen on EC, I did have some success with beet root powder, but it was not as effective as Carditone for me. I also got benefit from another regimen I used, but it required 3 supplements multiple times a day and it consisted of NAC, Arginine and Lysine. So it is a bit of work to maintain that regimen, but it isn't too costly.

I understand you are in a difficult situation and perhaps other forum members can add useful suggestions to what I have offered.

I will do a bit more reading to see if I can find anything else that might be helpful and will reply to this thread if I do, but what I mentioned above should keep you busy for awhile.

Art

Peter,

Earlier in this thread, a man reported that he was taking 3 different hypertension medications and his blood pressure was still uncontrolled and he said he stopped the three medications to start Carditone, which I thought was a really bad idea, and then he reposted to say the Carditone didn't work for him. He posted again after that he said that he went back on his 3 prescription meds for the hypertension and his pressure was still uncontrolled so he decided to add the Carditone to his regimen and he said that finally normalized his blood pressure. Nothing works for everyone, but you can't find out without trying. It's the same with the prescription hypertension meds, doctors will start you on one and then if it doesn't work or you have a bad reaction to it or both, they will switch to another hypertension med to see if it works. I imagine that's why there are so many different hypertension meds.

On that note, one of my friends who was testing Carditone found that it took awhile to get benefit of a reduction in blood pressure. Since you already have the bottle, it seems like it might be worth finishing it to see if it might help over a longer period. The bottle should last two months. Other than that, you might see if Amazon will take it back since it isn't working for you.

Art

Adrienne,

You can order from the manufacturer direct here :

https://ayush.com/

They also put up a page on their website describing how to tell if the product you have is real or counterfeit here :

https://ayush.com/blogs/news/psa-carditone-counterfeit

Apparently the counterfeit product has a slightly lighter blue label and the pills themselves are notably lighter colored that the real product. The real pills are a dark flat brown color with almost no gloss. The counterfeits look like a dark sand color. The third indication that the pills are counterfeit is that the barcode on the label is in a vertical position running from bottom to top of the bottle while the authentic product has a barcode that runs horizontally from side to side.

I've been taking Carditone for quite awhile and have always ordered them from Amazon with no problem, but on Amazon it always asks if I want to reorder and then it selects the same seller that I previously used.

I might not have noticed the lighter label because it isn't that far off from the real label, but I would have noticed those lighter pills and I have never seen them before. Perhaps it is just safer to order from the manufacturer to avoid this potential problem altogether. I think they sell at the same price as Amazon sellers.

Art

Wilfred,

In the reviews (over 4000 reviews) about others who have tested Carditone, while it does work for the majority of people, like any other supplement or medication, it does not work for everybody.

Carditone has an 80% five star rating, a 10% four star rating, a 4% three star rating, a 2% two star rating and a 5% one star rating. It may be a leap, but I take these ratings to mean, that roughly speaking, it works for 90% of people who try it and does not work for 7% of people based on the one and 2 star ratings. If you add the 4% of 3 star ratings to the group of non responders, then Carditone does not work for 10% to 11% of people who have tested it. Compared to other supplements used for high blood pressure, these are excellent results.

However, it does not change the fact that it is not working for you. Prior to testing Carditone, I was using Beet Root powder (BRP) to manage my blood pressure and it worked better than the max dose Amlodipine that the doctor had prescribed for me for high blood pressure (HBP), but it did not work as good as Carditone does. It may be worth considering testing it if you are trying to avoid taking prescription HBP meds. Here is a link to a typical product :

https://www.amazon.com/Beet-Root-Capsules-Performance-Digestive/dp/B084C35HGS/ref=sr_1_7?crid=S5LHKZKW02HQ&keywords=beet+root+powder+capsules+highest+rated&qid=1662865943&sprefix=beet+root+powder+capsules+highest+rated,aps,126&sr=8-7

I'm not recommending this particular product just linking to it because it has over 10, 000 reviews. You might read some of the reviews to get an idea of what type of results that people saw from using BRP.

Another consideration is to look at ECs list of over 50 supplements and remedies that members of the EC community have found useful for helping to control their HBP. Here is a link to that list :

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/high-blood-pressure-treatment.html

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Art

Cheryl,

I have not seen where the diastolic has not been lowered also, at least in the 3 of us that I have been reporting on. I have also not read that in the Amazon reviews. What is your diastolic reading?

I have noticed that for me and for Dave, Carditone had somewhat of a cumulative effect where it has allowed us to reduce our dose, but not for Barbara who has remained at one caplet per night. You already have the bottle so maybe you can continue to the end of the bottle and see if your diastolic starts to decline over time, but that would also depend on how high your diastolic reading is. If it is too high, you may have to go on prescription medications for hypertension or resume them if you were taking them.

Art

Glen,

For the specific purpose of maintaining blood pressure in the normal range, Carditone is all I use. I do take other supplements such as high dose melatonin because of its multitude of health benefits and preventative effects, but specifically for blood pressure, Carditone is it. I do walk at a brisk pace in the morning for endurance and I just wrote about how to improve that endurance and muscle strength using Astaxanthin here :

https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/astaxanthin-for-endurance.html

That may be good for helping to maintain healthy blood pressure, but that is not why I do it.

Art

Donna O.,

All three of us were off are prescription blood pressure meds. I think the combination will be too much and not a good thing, but you should check with your doctor to be as safe as possible.

Art

Do NOT mix herbal BP lowering products with prescription bp drugs.

You will stand the risk of lowering your BP below 105 which is as dangerous as an extreme high reading. STROKE zone below 105. If anything back off your prescription bp meds.

with an every other day dose as you ease into a daily all natural routine.

1/2 tsp beetroot powder in a 8oz glass of water sweetened to taste works within 30 minutes to lower bp by several points. If not increase the dose to 3/4 teaspoon or even to a flat to full teaspoon. Start small and figure it out. It works! 100% pure beet root powder "Amazon"

One dose a day works for 24 hours for most people. If you are prone to stones drink an extra glass of pure water about an hour after taking the beet root juice. If needed drink a glass of this miracle juice 2 x a day. You will get off your prescription meds. Beet root powder is also a GREAT antioxidant.

Fast from 10pm-10am or even to noon 7 days per week if possible.

Brisk Walk 20-30 minutes daily without stopping if possible.

Thank you Art for that valuable information regarding Carditone for high blood pressure. You'll be blessed always for what you do on this forum to help others. Will definitely check it out on Amazon. Have a great weekend!!!

Thank you for the very kind words, Lori!

I hope many people are able to use the information to effectively and quickly lower their high blood pressure as my friends and myself were able to do using Carditone!

Art

Hi Patti B,

Similarly to most blood pressure(BP) medications, Carditone seems to work for many people, but not all. I am one of the lucky ones who is able to get by with one Carditone every other night. By comparison, the prescription BP medication, Amlodipine at the highest available dose taken everyday had almost zero effect on my blood pressure which was very high at the time.

Previously one man reported on EC that he was on two or three BP meds and his blood pressure still was not controlled. So he decided to stop his meds and start with just Carditone. He wrote back to say that Carditone did not work for him. He later wrote that once he started back on his BP meds, his BP was still uncontrolled. So he decided to add Carditone to his BP meds and that finally controlled his BP to the normal range.

When it comes to BP, we all seem to be different and so it comes down to trial and error to see what works best. I'm sorry that Carditone is not effective enough for you to take it by itself.

Art

You're very welcome, Colleen, I just wish that they had a workaround for you. On a related note, I did get some benefit from beet root powder capsules, but not as good as Carditone. The beet root powder(BRP) definitely brought my blood pressure down significantly and for some people it has been very effective. One difference I noticed between the two is that if I missed a dose of BRP, it was evident in my pressure reading, whereas if I missed a dose of Carditone it wasn't evident. If you decide to try BRP, please come back and let us know how it worked for you.

Art

Tom,

I understand and sadly the manufacturer does not have a remedy for this known side effect. Another consideration that helped me prior to Carditone is beet root powder capsules.

Art

Peter,

I'm sorry it didn't work for and thank you for the feedback!

Art

Thank you Art for your detailed response. I had my doubts about the pharmacist claims that Carditone may be cancer causing or is that the ingredients that are in Carditone are used in chemotherapy drugs (that was mentioned as well). ) I so appreciate that you took enough time to answer my question. I am glad that Carditone is helping so many people. Thanks again!

Peter,

It has been my experience that I can take Carditone anytime, but I believe the company suggests evening dosing because one or two of the ingredients are known to help with sleeplessness, so it may help some people get to sleep, but on the other hand, if a person is sensitive to these ingredients and it really helps them sleep, they may not want to take it in the morning as it may make them feel sleepy.

For me, I have never experienced sleepiness from taking it.

Regarding which pill might be causing diarrhea, this is a known side effect of berberine and I would suspect it before Carditone. That is why I suggested taking it after eating, to see if that would help or resolve the issue. In some cases, people have had success with building the dose up slowly because sometimes the body can adjust to berberine when applied gradually. I would try taking it after the meal as the simplest remedy especially since the Carditone was already working for her with no problem.

If in the end, your wife does not tolerate berberine even when taken after food, I can make another suggestion, but berberine is very good with T2DM so give it a try after food. You can also try reducing the dose. What brand are you using?

Did you get my other reply about the use of magnesium for T2DM?

Art

Recently, a friend who I have been working with mentioned that she was having a very significant number of pain issues of the back, neck, and various joints that seem to be consistently increasing over time. I asked her about medications that she was taking and she mentioned that she was taking Losartan for high blood pressure for many years. I mentioned to her that common musculoskeletal side effects of Losartan are :

https://www.drugs.com/sfx/losartan-side-effects.html

• Musculoskeletal (Common) :
• Muscle Cramp
• Back Pain
• Leg Pain
• Myalgia - Definition of myalgia : Myalgia describes muscle aches and pain, which can involve ligaments, tendons and fascia, the soft tissues that connect muscles, bones and organs.

These listed common side effects to the musculoskeletal system by Losartan pretty much describe the issues that she was telling me she was having and I let her know that it was time to consider another high blood pressure medication and she agreed. I asked her if she had mentioned all of her pain issues to her doctor? I further said that if she had, and he had not suggested trying a new blood pressure med, then that would not be a good situation for her. She would not say much about her doctor after that and she did not say that she would ask her doctor to try her on a new blood pressure medication and our conversation pretty much ended there.

About a week later she asked me if there was anything I would recommend for high blood pressure and I told her that I use Carditone and it is effectively keeping my blood pressure in the normal range. I told her it doesn't work for everyone, but it does seem to work for the majority of people. She said she was going to think about it and let me know what she decides.

Another four weeks went by and she told me that she had stopped taking Losartan and had switched to Carditone and it was working at least as well as Losartan to maintain normal blood pressure for her. I had also suggested she use melatonin lotion a while back to manage her pain and potentially help repair any damage that Losartan might have caused. She told me that she is thrilled to be off of Losartan and that combining that with the melatonin lotion has gotten her to about 95% pain free with periods of time where she is 100% pain free. She seems like a much much happier person these days!

Art

Russ,

There is very little scientific information available about the herbal combination that is Carditone regarding ischemia. I think it may be too strong for you, Russ. There are studies on the individual herbal ingredients and apparently these studies are how they arrived at this particular formulation, which in my friend's and my case, is more potent than the respective blood pressure medications we were using. My friend who's blood pressure was uncontrolled on Lisinopril has had to go to every third day dosing while I was uncontrolled on Amlodipine max dose and have recently switched from every other day dosing to every third day dosing also.

I mention in this thread that low blood pressure can be as dangerous as high blood pressure. This herbal supplement is quite effective at lowering high blood pressure in my experience and my other two friends who are using it. One friend requires the label recommended dose of one pill per night to stay in the normal range. The other friend found it so effective that they take it every third day and that dose maintains their blood pressure below 120/80.

Myself, I found that shortly after starting on Carditone I only needed to take one pill every other night, but more recently checked my pressure after missing a dose and found it to be 107/74/74 pulse. So I have just last week switched to one pill every third day and will report back on EC how this new dose works out for me. For me, it seems to have a slow cumulative and lasting effect causing me to reduce my dose twice now. I am not complaining, but I highly recommend that people testing Carditone, monitor their blood pressure regularly to be certain that it has not declined to a dangerously low level such as yours.

Art

Hi Carol,

Here is a description of where the coral in Carditone comes from.

' The coral in Carditone is derived from Dendrogyra cylindrus, also known as pillar coral¹. It is a type of stony coral that forms cylindrical columns in tropical and subtropical waters². Pillar coral is a good source of calcium and magnesium, which are important minerals for cardiovascular health¹. '

As to whether testing has been done for lead content of Carditone, according to the FDA, dietary supplements are not required to be tested for contaminants, such as lead, mercury, arsenic, and cadmium, before they are marketed. However, the FDA does set limits for the amount of these metals that are allowed in supplements, and monitors the products for compliance.

Given that the FDA does not require such testing, I doubt that many, if any, supplement makers are making much effort to do such testing.

Art

Larry,

I forgot to mention, if you read the label of the Carditone bottle under "Suggested Use", it says to take it at night.

Art

CARDITONE

Hallo all,

today I got the article about Carditione, the product for highblood pressure. This is a very importand point of me. and I was trying to order a box of carditone. it was shown that the product is available in Amozone. Yes generally it is, but not available. Can you inform me anybody if that product one can buy also in another webshop?

Thnak you for your help!

Werner, Belgium

Rod P.,

I am not a doctor so I can not advise on dosing, I can only describe my and my friends' experience with using Carditone, but I don't think it would be good at all to just add it to your current regimen. That could be dangerous as it may lower your blood pressure too low!

Perhaps you can ask one of your doctors if it would be okay to go off your blood pressure meds for two weeks to test Carditone to see if it will help you as it will be easier to take one pill than two and you are also hoping to avoid any potential side effects from the Amlodipine and Lisinopril, of which there are quite a few as listed at these two links:

Side Effects of Lisinopril :

https://www.drugs.com/sfx/lisinopril-side-effects.html

You have to scroll the list to see all of the potential side effects.

Side Effects of Amlodipine:

https://www.drugs.com/sfx/amlodipine-side-effects.html

Art

Rod P. ,

Thank you for the feedback. Apparently Carditone is not working for you and you should stop it and go back on your previous meds as you don't want your blood pressure to go higher as you indicated it has while on Carditone.

Art

Warning not to stop your medications suddenly even when told by doctor to do so. Some drugs are easier eg calcium blockers but you should still take time even when you are replacing it by other drug or remedy. You need to monitor your bp to guide you. I knew that people had bad problems with withdrawals from betablockers so I took 3 months even though the cardiologist told me to stop the bisoprolol and replace it with amlodipine. Even so, 2 days after my last dose I got palpitations and finished up in an emergency. The mistake I made was that I should have been taking amlodipine or other remedy to ease transition and I did not. Afterwards I was on amlodipine only 3 weeks and it was no problem to withdraw from it over next 2 weeks.

After 5 days of taking 1 Carditone tablet a day my BP has been reduced significantly from 170's, 180's and 190's to the following for the last 2 days: (1-29 and 1-30)

107/79,122/75,108/75,128/80,112/74,113/68 and 114/76

Works for me.

Hi Louis,

I'm very happy that Carditone has brought your very high blood pressure into the normal range and thank you for coming back to EC to report your results! That is quite a drop down from 170's - 190's down to normal!

Please continue to monitor your blood pressure for safety.

Art

Hi Sheila,

I can't tell you what to do, but I can tell you what my two friends and myself did. The three of us had stopped our hypertension medication because it was not working and we decided to try Carditone and fortunately, it worked for all three of us.

Another EC community member reported that he was on two other blood pressure medications which were not fully controlling his blood pressure. He decided to stop both of the meds and started Carditone, which he said did not work for him, so he went back on his two meds and then added Carditone with his two meds and he said that finally controlled his blood pressure.

Art

Gracie,

It is possible to get a higher reading and still have a well in range average reading. That happens to me at the doctor's office every time I go and once in awhile at home, but the average readings are always very good. Your diastolic reading is normal.

The Carditone is suggested to be taken in the later evening before bed. Make sure you do that and take your other supplements earlier in the day to allow each one to work optimally and not interfere with each other.

Btw, I take Carditone and borax and neither one seems to affect the other. I take the 1/4th teaspoon of borax 4 to 5 days per week in water and I take Carditone every other day close to bedtime. I don't know how strong your borax solution is, but it has to be pretty strong for just one teaspoon to work for your arthritis.

If you are already taking your supplements far apart from each other and your systolic remains high, try skipping the ACV for two weeks to see if your systolic returns to normal. You can always add the ACV back later.

I haven't heard of anyone saying that Carditone stopped working for them after working fine. It did happen to me, but it only happened when I was testing Carditone and I backed off too much between doses, otherwise it works very well and better than anything else I have tried.

For just temporary relief of arthritis pain and other pains, the topical pain reliever, Stopain is generally effective while you are waiting for the borax to take effect.

Please let us know how things work out for you.

Art

Gracie,

It may be available in the UK here :

https://www.proactivehealthcare.co.uk/ayush-herbs-carditone-60-caps

Art

Glad to hear that, Gracie! Please come back and let us know how it works for you.

Art

Art, I would first like to thank you and the other users of EC who have contributed to this section. I have been a long-term extremely hypertensive person. I've had 2 heart attacks, stents placed in my heart and have been on a large cocktail of various BP meds. Due to a lack of insurance and being unable to continue affording the meds/doctor visits, I've been off my meds for a few years now. My BP, which my dentist checked it this morning was 220 over 139. This is not uncommon for me. I even had a doc tell me that when they finally did get my BP down into a 'normal range' of 150/185 that I should probably expect that to be as good as it's going to get as that's what my body has become accustomed to for so long. I did eventually get it into the 120/80 range with meds before eventually having to go off of them.

I know, very clearly, that I cannot sustain these high BP levels and I'm scared but have felt that it's just how it was going to have to be. I stumbled onto your post about Carditone and have read every single post and will admit that I'm feeling hopeful. I ended up ordering two bottles but they wont show up until April 7th. I've been taking a couple of other herbal supplements, but they obviously haven't helped. I will continue to take them and add Carditone to the regimen and closely monitor.

I considering taking two a day, once in the morning and once at night, again, closely monitoring. If the Carditone effectively begins to lower my BP, then I will adjust and monitor once it's lower.

I think I will also take Astaxanthin and begin walking. Fatigue has been a problem when trying to walk. I don't even try speed walking at this point, but I will begin again once I start taking the AST. I first want to see my BP numbers drop a bit before I push the walking. I you have other recommendations there, I'm definitely open to suggestions.

Colleen,

I'm sorry it didn't workout for you. I saw that as a potential side effect and it is too bad you weren't able to continue with it since it was working for you, but nasal congestion can be intolerable.

Art

I can't help wondering if maybe you got one of Amazon's fake sellers that is selling an imitation. I only learned of this problem recently, and it is happening on other websites besides Amazon. What a shame! I have spent so much time trying to verify whether I have any fake supplements in my cupboards. As I understand it, we have to contact the manufacturer, and ask them the names of their legitimate sellers or, if they sell directly, buy from the manufacturer's website. If buying on Amazon or Walmart or I Herbs, etc., we have to locate the name of the seller on the site to see if it is the seller the manufacturer said is legit.

BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS

Art,

I have been taking Carditone for my high blood pressure since last 3 weeks. Now my blood pressure is in the normal range because of Carditone.

The only major side effect I have is nasal congestion because of Carditone. I read one of the ingredient in Carditone causes Nasal Congestion.

Anyone else noticed the side effect?

Thank you.

Tom

Tom,

I have no recommendation for Beet Root Powder. If you look on Amazon, look for a product that has a high number of reviews and a high number of 5 star reviews in conjunction with a low number of 1 star reviews.

Art

Hi Art, I suffer from HBP and am contemplating taking Carditone but before I do I have a question ... do you receive any compensation from either Amazon or the manufacturer of this supplement? Thank you in advance.

Robert,

Thank you for the reply and I completely understand.

If you do decide to test it, please give your feedback.

Art

Russ,

I forgot to mention, all three of us stopped are prescription blood pressure medications in order to start using Carditone by itself , but one gentleman who wrote in said he had uncontrolled blood pressure while using 3 blood pressure medications simultaneously and when he added Carditone to the three, it brought his blood pressure into the normal range.

If your diastolic and systolic readings are normal, the following article should be of interest to you :

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/fitness/expert-answers/heart-rate/faq-20057979#:~:text=A normal resting heart rate for adults ranges from 60, to 40 beats per minute.

Art

I read the part about blood pressure and bought Carditone. I have taken 25 tablets so far and still have to take beet powder twice a day to keep pressure in the 125 range. If no beets and just Carditone, my bp is 140-160 so the product isn't helping as advertised. I will take the rest of the bottle and if things get to normal, will try again. If not no more sales from me.

Paul,

I noticed that the effect of Carditone increased through the first two bottles which allowed me to eventually go to every other day dosing. My friend Dave is going with every third day dosing and is well controlled while my friend Barbara is still at once a day dosing. So everyone seems to react differently to Carditone, but overall it has been effective for us.

You already have the bottle so you may as well finish it to see if it works out well for you or not. The bottle will last two months, so you have about 5 weeks before you finish the bottle.

I should also mention that there was a third person on EC who reported that Carditone could not replace the three prescription blood pressure medications he was taking that were not fully controlling his blood pressure, but when he added Carditone to his 3 meds, his blood pressure came down. I did try beet root powder, but it was not as effective as Carditone for me, as my blood pressure was still in the high range with the beet root powder.

Art

Hi Barbara,

The manufacturer of Carditone advertises that it helps maintains blood pressure that is already in a normal range, but if your blood pressure is already within a normal range why do you need it? I think they do this because they can not make medical claims for a supplement.

I can only describe what it did for my friends and myself in the article I wrote about our experience with Carditone. One person reported it didn't work for them and two people have reported that it worked for them. So in terms of working for the purpose of lowering blood pressure significantly, there are only 5 people on Earth Clinic who have made that claim.

Regarding Amlodipine, I think they may have a 2 1/2 mg version which may prove less problematic than the 5 mg version.

Carditone recommends that you take it at night because two of the herbs in it (Convolvulus pluricaulis and rose powder) are said to have calming effects, which may be useful for your new found insomnia.

What I would be concerned with in your case is that you state that you have arrhythmia and I have no idea if Carditone would have any impact on that. I would suggest letting your doctor know about the problems that Amlodipine is causing you and ask if it would be okay to try over the counter Carditone for a week or two to see if it will be more compatible with your system than the Amlodipine was.

Art

Larry,

Thank you for your quick feedback! That is an amazing reduction in just two days considering that you were 200/100 for weeks with your prescription meds and supplements!

Did you stop the other supplements and meds you were taking for blood pressure control?

Art

Rod,

Thank you for the update on your use of Carditone and I am glad it is allowing you to reach normal blood pressure readings which your two blood pressure meds were not able to do!

I have found that continued use of Carditone works better for me than the maximum dose of Amlodipine that my doctor had me on which never got my blood pressure into the normal range. It also outperformed Beet Root Powder that I tested. I also have not noticed any side effects from Carditone either.

Please keep an eye on your blood pressure regularly to make sure it does not go too low.

Art

Hi Sheila,

Some times the medications or supplements simply can't control the blood pressure. This is the likely reason why there are so many different hypertension meds and dosage levels as discussed here :

https://www.rxlist.com/high_blood_pressure_hypertension_medications/drugs-condition.htm

Art

I exactly had the sinus congestion due to Carditone and had to stop taking.

Carditone brought my blood pressure in normal range however I could not breathe and eventually had to stop taking.

Tom,

The three of us have not noticed nasal congestion or anything else as a side effect of taking Carditone after testing for months, but in reading reviews, I did see someone mention nasal congestion. Unfortunately, even though Carditone normalized your blood pressure, the nasal congestion will likely preclude you from taking it.

Art

Tom,

I understand what you are saying. I guess if you are able to find something that will alleviate the sinus congestion and is practical, then maybe Carditone is not off the table yet. I just hate the idea of having to take another supplement because the first supplement caused a side effect. It may be better to consider testing other blood pressure supplements such as Beet Root Powder in the hope that you will not have negative side effects and it will control your elevated blood pressure.

Also, look at my very recent reply to Wilfred on this topic.

Art

Art,

Thanks for the wonderful post regarding Carditone controlling blood pressure.

Can I ask you where you bought the carditone/company name and how much you are using? Are there any negative side effects of using carditone (if any).

Thank you again!!

Tom

Werner,

It appears to be available at the German version Ebay site:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/184856828452?epid=13031748855&hash=item2b0a535a24:g:GqsAAOSw3ZtgrsOd

Art

Art, my wife has been using Carditone 1/2 pill along with few BP other medicine. It works for her. Have Used over 6 months. Thanks You Peter

Hi Peter,

I am glad that Carditone is helping your wife to maintain her blood pressure in a normal range! For her particular situation, that is a critical point for her long term health outlook! Her dose is similar to my dose at half of a caplet per day. I use one caplet every other day as my effective dose, which is essentially the same as her dose, but easier to take.

Art

carditone dosage/other meds/question for Art

I am going to try Carditone. I am currently on Coreg, and it has been increased since my blood pressure is not controlled on my lower dosage. Can I take the Carditone and my lower dose of Coreg at the same time? I believe my cardiologist (from past experience) will be very unsupportive of me taking anything not from a big Pharma source. Those of you who have taken it and gotten results, did you just add it to your current list and watch or go off your meds? Did you tell your doctor?I intend to be very intent and faithful in taking my blood pressure at home. Thanks in advance.....

Thank you, Art. I am waiting for my bottle from the company. I believe the bottle I got on amazon was counterfeit after looking at the warnings/pictures on the ayush site. I'm not sure if I'll get reimbursed for the bottle I received from amazon. I will keep EC advised as to my experience. I asked my compound pharmacist, and she said to remember to check my bp whilst on the Carditone (duh). My blood pressure is high 156/90 most mornings. I take my medicine and it goes down to acceptable levels. Do you have any idea why it would be high overnight? The only thing I can think of is the hours between my meds? I used to have low pressure but in the last few years it's gotten higher. I am taking beet capsules at the present time, also. I know I put questions in the middle of this....sorry. I so appreciate you being so generous with your time and knowledge. Do you have a practice or do telecare visits?

Sheila

Carditone And My Short Experience

I read up on the Carditone reviews here and decided to purchase some. Always had good BP until recently and started creeping up to the 160's/90's. Took my first dose on Thursday night....... as suggested on the bottle. I was up urinating all night it felt like. Took it again Friday night. Urinated 12 to 15 times. Same thing on Saturday night and I am exhausted from basically no sleep for three nights. Did not take on Sunday night but probably still up 8 times. Guess just as I read that it stays in your body and you can lower your dosage and still lowers BP for some, it stayed in my body even when I didn't take it but maybe will clear in a few days.

I have two nurse friends I called about this and they wanted pics of the bottle showing the ingredients. Both came back and told me to be careful that Carditone has a diuretic and that was the reason I was up so many times during the night. I have not seen that word on their ad on Amazon nor have I read it anywhere here. At least I didn't have the nasal problem.

Glad it's working for some of you but you can't rest when you can't get in your REM sleep.

Surfer,

Thank you for the feedback on Carditone. The ingredient in it that can act as a diuretic is Rauwolfia extract.

I have not experienced this problem nor have my two friends who also take it and you are the first person who has reported it on EC. Having to go to the bathroom 12 to 15 times per night would be intolerable. I'm sorry that Carditone will not be an option for you. Perhaps Amazon will give you a refund since you barely tried it or perhaps the manufacturer might.

Art

Thank you so much Art for replying to my request of where to purchase Carditone in the UK. I've just placed an order.

Carol,

Thank you for your feedback on your use of Carditone. I am very happy that it is working well for you! It is also still working well for my two friends and myself and none of us have noticed any side effects. For the three of us, it has worked better than the prescription blood pressure meds our doctors had us on.

Art

Art,

It never was my intention to insult you, If that is how my question came across I apologize. It was an honest question tended to dispel any misgivings that a reasonable person may ask before ordering the supplement you are recommending. Thank you for the clarification.

Art,

My wife is on diuretic, allowing 2 hours or longer after that before Carditone (it works), what is your opinion?

There was one review on amazon that had issue.

My wife had to stop Berberine(it works) because of diarrhea, I do not know which pill is the cause?

Trying to test it out now. Always value your opinion. I have read many years of your postings and Ted also. I prefer your recommend brands and beside no one forcing us to buy the brand. Thanks Thanks