I'm asking because I'm seriously considering starting Carditone for my BP. But I also have sleep apnea and have to use CPAP with a nasal mask to breathe. If it stops up my nose it will be difficult to breathe.
I would even consider using some kind of nasal relief, since there have been so many glowing testimonies about the effectiveness of Carditone. Any suggestions?
I have not seen reports of Carditone causing diarrhea, but diarrhea is a known side effect of Telmisartan as discussed here :
https://www.drugs.com/sfx/telmisartan-side-effects.html
Here is a partial list of side effects from drugs.com for Telmisartan:
Less common side effects
- abdominal or stomach pain
- back pain
- bloating or gas
- changes in appetite
- coughing
- diarrhea
- dry mouth
- ear pain or hearing problems
- fever
- general tiredness or weakness
- headache
- heartburn
- increased sweating
- muscle pain or spasm
- nausea
- nervousness
- runny or stuffy nose
- sneezing
- sore throat
Carditone is meant to be taken in the evening close to bedtime because in some people it helps them sleep. If you take Telmisartan and Carditone at the same time, try taking them apart just in case they are interacting with each other.
Assuming you are using Telmisartan for blood pressure control, stop taking Carditone for a week. If the diarrhea goes away, then Carditone is the likely cause. If the diarrhea doesn't go away, then Telmisartan is the likely cause. If Telmisartan turns out to be the cause and Carditone alone does not properly control your blood pressure, you will have to ask your doctor to prescribe another blood pressure medication to replace the Telmisartan. Other than that, you can try and find another natural remedy to use alongside Carditone such as beet root capsules.
I've been taking Carditone for years now and have never experienced digestive upset of any sort from its use nor have my other friends that use it and it has not been previously reported on EC. In going through hundreds of reviews on Amazon, for Carditone, I also did not see any reports of diarrhea from its use.
Please let us know what you find out is causing the diarrhea either way.
Art
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
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Carditone for High Blood Pressure
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
I have two separate batches at home and both have a vertical bar code. The Carditone website no longer has a page for identification of counterfeit products. So apparently they have resolved this issue.
I have never gotten a counterfeit product, but for those who are concerned about counterfeit Carditone, they can order directly from the Carditone manufacturer, Ayush Herbs here :
I have always ordered from Amazon, from this particular choice, which suggests it is connected to the Ayush Herbs website because on the Amazon site it gives the option to visit the Ayush Herbs store :
I have never gotten feedback from anyone with kidney disease who was also using Carditone, so I have no answer for your question, but I have gotten good responses to my questions re Carditone by emailing them directly with my questions. Here is their email address :
Please let us know their answer to your question once you have it in case anyone else with kidney disease who is thinking of testing Carditone can have that answer also.
Art
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
In addition, something else I did not see anyone ask was about whether or not Carditone has an affect on someone with Chronic Kidney disease.
Thanks Art for all the info provided on this subject, much appreciated!
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Since your blood pressure is poorly controlled on Lisinopril + Amlodipine + Metoprolol, you can ask your doctor if you can temporarily test Carditone by possibly replacing Lisinopril or Amlodipine. Metoprolol has another use along with blood pressure control, so your doctor probably won't want you to stop that one. You are at the max dose for Lisinopril, so your doctor will probably want you to stay on that one. So this leaves Amlodipine as the most likely candidate to temporarily switch to Carditone.
Once you switch from Amlodipine to Carditone, you will have to monitor your blood pressure at least once a day to see how your blood pressure is responding. If your blood pressure starts coming down, you will want to see numbers in the 120/80 area. If it goes lower than that and stays lower, your doctor can start to reduce your Lisinopril dose accordingly to try and keep you in the optimal range.
If the Carditone works well for you, you may be able to eventually eliminate Lisinopril.
As for the Jardiance, a diabetes drug, I would wait on that until you have established Carditone in your regimen. Better to work on one thing at a time so you know exactly what each thing is doing.
In the meantime, I have previously written about supplements for diabetes here and you can read up on that while you're working out your best blood pressure plan with your doctor. Here is the link to that article :
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/six-supplements-for-diabetes-art-solbrig.html
Keep us posted on your blood pressure situation and once that is normalized we can work on the diabetes issue.
Art
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Thank you, Rose T.
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All three of us who I wrote the original article about were all able to normalize diastolic and systolic blood pressure readings which has lasted to present day. I just checked my blood pressure and it is 117/76/76.
Of the three of us, it seems that Barbara took the longest to normalize her blood pressure, but it eventually did normalize and she reports that it has maintained the normal range up to this month. If my memory serves me correctly it took her about a month to consistently get readings in the normal range Dave also recently told me that his blood pressure has remained normal.
Art
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Carditone for High Blood Pressure
Previously I wrote the manufacturer to ask if they had a workaround for this stuffy nose issue and they said they didn't. Unfortunately, even though it is working for your blood pressure, it is not likely you will be able to continue to use it. You are the third person that has reported this problem on EC.
Art
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
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It does work, there is no doubt about that. However, every time I take it my nose gets stuffed up horribly. Is this something that gets better with time? I already have sleep apnea so sprinkling nasal congestion on top isn't helpful, but if it's just a temporary side effect it may be worth the short term struggle.
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I once inquired with the manufacturer to see if they had changed their formulation and they told me they hadn't, but there was a period of time when some suppliers were selling a counterfeit product. They also posted on their website how to recognize a counterfeit product, but they have since removed that information from their website. The only way I know of to be sure you are getting the real product is to buy directly from the manufacturer's website which generally sell it for the same price as suppliers on Amazon.
Art
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My friends and I are still only taking Carditone and no other blood pressure medications as I wrote about here :
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/high-blood-pressure-carditone.html
It is still working for all three of us!
Art
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If you are still taking prescribed bp meds, why when Carditone seems to be such a good supplement?
Thanks, Sue
I am glad that Carditone is helping your wife to maintain her blood pressure in a normal range! For her particular situation, that is a critical point for her long term health outlook! Her dose is similar to my dose at half of a caplet per day. I use one caplet every other day as my effective dose, which is essentially the same as her dose, but easier to take.
Art
Carditone For High Blood Pressure
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Carditone For High Blood Pressure
Similarly to most blood pressure(BP) medications, Carditone seems to work for many people, but not all. I am one of the lucky ones who is able to get by with one Carditone every other night. By comparison, the prescription BP medication, Amlodipine at the highest available dose taken everyday had almost zero effect on my blood pressure which was very high at the time.
Previously one man reported on EC that he was on two or three BP meds and his blood pressure still was not controlled. So he decided to stop his meds and start with just Carditone. He wrote back to say that Carditone did not work for him. He later wrote that once he started back on his BP meds, his BP was still uncontrolled. So he decided to add Carditone to his BP meds and that finally controlled his BP to the normal range.
When it comes to BP, we all seem to be different and so it comes down to trial and error to see what works best. I'm sorry that Carditone is not effective enough for you to take it by itself.
Art
Carditone For High Blood Pressure
I'm very happy that Carditone has brought your very high blood pressure into the normal range and thank you for coming back to EC to report your results! That is quite a drop down from 170's - 190's down to normal!
Please continue to monitor your blood pressure for safety.
Art
Carditone For High Blood Pressure
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107/79,122/75,108/75,128/80,112/74,113/68 and 114/76
Works for me.
https://www.drugs.com/sfx/losartan-side-effects.html
- Musculoskeletal (Common) :
- Muscle Cramp
- Back Pain
- Leg Pain
- Myalgia - Definition of myalgia : Myalgia describes muscle aches and pain, which can involve ligaments, tendons and fascia, the soft tissues that connect muscles, bones and organs.
These listed common side effects to the musculoskeletal system by Losartan pretty much describe the issues that she was telling me she was having and I let her know that it was time to consider another high blood pressure medication and she agreed. I asked her if she had mentioned all of her pain issues to her doctor? I further said that if she had, and he had not suggested trying a new blood pressure med, then that would not be a good situation for her. She would not say much about her doctor after that and she did not say that she would ask her doctor to try her on a new blood pressure medication and our conversation pretty much ended there.
About a week later she asked me if there was anything I would recommend for high blood pressure and I told her that I use Carditone and it is effectively keeping my blood pressure in the normal range. I told her it doesn't work for everyone, but it does seem to work for the majority of people. She said she was going to think about it and let me know what she decides.
Another four weeks went by and she told me that she had stopped taking Losartan and had switched to Carditone and it was working at least as well as Losartan to maintain normal blood pressure for her. I had also suggested she use melatonin lotion a while back to manage her pain and potentially help repair any damage that Losartan might have caused. She told me that she is thrilled to be off of Losartan and that combining that with the melatonin lotion has gotten her to about 95% pain free with periods of time where she is 100% pain free. She seems like a much much happier person these days!
Art
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Here is a description of where the coral in Carditone comes from.
' The coral in Carditone is derived from Dendrogyra cylindrus, also known as pillar coral1. It is a type of stony coral that forms cylindrical columns in tropical and subtropical waters2. Pillar coral is a good source of calcium and magnesium, which are important minerals for cardiovascular health1. '
As to whether testing has been done for lead content of Carditone, according to the FDA, dietary supplements are not required to be tested for contaminants, such as lead, mercury, arsenic, and cadmium, before they are marketed. However, the FDA does set limits for the amount of these metals that are allowed in supplements, and monitors the products for compliance.
Given that the FDA does not require such testing, I doubt that many, if any, supplement makers are making much effort to do such testing.
Art
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Thanks so much for all of your help!
Carol
Carditone Q&A
Some times the medications or supplements simply can't control the blood pressure. This is the likely reason why there are so many different hypertension meds and dosage levels as discussed here :
https://www.rxlist.com/high_blood_pressure_hypertension_medications/drugs-condition.htm
Art
Carditone Q&A
Sheila
Carditone Q&A
I can't tell you what to do, but I can tell you what my two friends and myself did. The three of us had stopped our hypertension medication because it was not working and we decided to try Carditone and fortunately, it worked for all three of us.
Another EC community member reported that he was on two other blood pressure medications which were not fully controlling his blood pressure. He decided to stop both of the meds and started Carditone, which he said did not work for him, so he went back on his two meds and then added Carditone with his two meds and he said that finally controlled his blood pressure.
Art
Carditone Q&A
I am going to try Carditone. I am currently on Coreg, and it has been increased since my blood pressure is not controlled on my lower dosage. Can I take the Carditone and my lower dose of Coreg at the same time? I believe my cardiologist (from past experience) will be very unsupportive of me taking anything not from a big Pharma source. Those of you who have taken it and gotten results, did you just add it to your current list and watch or go off your meds? Did you tell your doctor?I intend to be very intent and faithful in taking my blood pressure at home. Thanks in advance.....
Thank you for the feedback on Carditone. The ingredient in it that can act as a diuretic is Rauwolfia extract.
I have not experienced this problem nor have my two friends who also take it and you are the first person who has reported it on EC. Having to go to the bathroom 12 to 15 times per night would be intolerable. I'm sorry that Carditone will not be an option for you. Perhaps Amazon will give you a refund since you barely tried it or perhaps the manufacturer might.
Art
Carditone For High Blood Pressure
I read up on the Carditone reviews here and decided to purchase some. Always had good BP until recently and started creeping up to the 160's/90's. Took my first dose on Thursday night....... as suggested on the bottle. I was up urinating all night it felt like. Took it again Friday night. Urinated 12 to 15 times. Same thing on Saturday night and I am exhausted from basically no sleep for three nights. Did not take on Sunday night but probably still up 8 times. Guess just as I read that it stays in your body and you can lower your dosage and still lowers BP for some, it stayed in my body even when I didn't take it but maybe will clear in a few days.
I have two nurse friends I called about this and they wanted pics of the bottle showing the ingredients. Both came back and told me to be careful that Carditone has a diuretic and that was the reason I was up so many times during the night. I have not seen that word on their ad on Amazon nor have I read it anywhere here. At least I didn't have the nasal problem.
Glad it's working for some of you but you can't rest when you can't get in your REM sleep.
You can order from the manufacturer direct here :
They also put up a page on their website describing how to tell if the product you have is real or counterfeit here :
https://ayush.com/blogs/news/psa-carditone-counterfeit
Apparently the counterfeit product has a slightly lighter blue label and the pills themselves are notably lighter colored that the real product. The real pills are a dark flat brown color with almost no gloss. The counterfeits look like a dark sand color. The third indication that the pills are counterfeit is that the barcode on the label is in a vertical position running from bottom to top of the bottle while the authentic product has a barcode that runs horizontally from side to side.
I've been taking Carditone for quite awhile and have always ordered them from Amazon with no problem, but on Amazon it always asks if I want to reorder and then it selects the same seller that I previously used.
I might not have noticed the lighter label because it isn't that far off from the real label, but I would have noticed those lighter pills and I have never seen them before. Perhaps it is just safer to order from the manufacturer to avoid this potential problem altogether. I think they sell at the same price as Amazon sellers.
Art
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
It is possible to get a higher reading and still have a well in range average reading. That happens to me at the doctor's office every time I go and once in awhile at home, but the average readings are always very good. Your diastolic reading is normal.
The Carditone is suggested to be taken in the later evening before bed. Make sure you do that and take your other supplements earlier in the day to allow each one to work optimally and not interfere with each other.
Btw, I take Carditone and borax and neither one seems to affect the other. I take the 1/4th teaspoon of borax 4 to 5 days per week in water and I take Carditone every other day close to bedtime. I don't know how strong your borax solution is, but it has to be pretty strong for just one teaspoon to work for your arthritis.
If you are already taking your supplements far apart from each other and your systolic remains high, try skipping the ACV for two weeks to see if your systolic returns to normal. You can always add the ACV back later.
I haven't heard of anyone saying that Carditone stopped working for them after working fine. It did happen to me, but it only happened when I was testing Carditone and I backed off too much between doses, otherwise it works very well and better than anything else I have tried.
For just temporary relief of arthritis pain and other pains, the topical pain reliever, Stopain is generally effective while you are waiting for the borax to take effect.
Please let us know how things work out for you.
Art
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
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WORKED TEMPORARILY
You mentioned that you'd be interested in how I got on with taking Carditone. In the early days it worked very well, but recently stopped working. This morning I took a reading and it was 156/82. So far I've been on them for approximately 50 days. The only changes I've made in my diet in an attempt to reduce the amount of arthritic pain I'm in are having two tablespoonsful of ACV, one teaspoonful of borax solution, and drinking a mug of bone broth daily, but I cannot see these affecting my blood pressure.
Any thoughts?
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My blood pressure was in serious danger levels and has been brought down to normal. In fact, it states that taking two pills a day will lower blood pressure to safe levels after which one tablet can then be used for maintenance. I also read that it can safely be used for 6 months, then stopped for two weeks before continuing to use it. Testing your blood pressure daily is your gauge and would not take it without testing daily as your blood pressure can retreat to below safe levels as mine did.
Have taken this along with carditone without any side effects for 6 months. Will be reporting on my cholesterol levels at my upcoming blood screening in early September. Tried 4 different statins all with similar muscle cramping before starting this and have had no side effects since beginning.
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
I'm very happy to hear that Carditone is working well for you! Please continue to monitor your blood pressure regularly as in some people, it has a cumulative effect and your blood pressure could potentially decrease more. This doesn't happen to everyone, but it did happen to me. I was fine at one caplet a day, but after a month or so I noticed it was going lower than optimal and I eventually had to switch to one every other night. Now my pressure is right in the normal range.
I had some stuffiness in my sinuses also, but that gradually went away and my sinuses are normal now.
Art
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
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Side Effects: It definitely causes some congestion, which dissipates during the day. Congestion is also much worse if I have significant gluten or dairy the day before... Anyway, just wanted to report back my results. Very happy with this product.
Art
Where to Buy: UK
Where to Buy: UK
It may be available in the UK here :
https://www.proactivehealthcare.co.uk/ayush-herbs-carditone-60-caps
Art
Where to Buy: UK
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
I understand and sadly the manufacturer does not have a remedy for this known side effect. Another consideration that helped me prior to Carditone is beet root powder capsules.
Art
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
Carditone brought my blood pressure in normal range however I could not breathe and eventually had to stop taking.
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
Art
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
I wrote to the manufacturer of Carditone, Ayush Herbs because of your experience and they replied to me this morning. This is what I wrote :
The other question I have, regards onset of action of Carditone. Other forum members have written me and said they were not getting any benefit from Carditone after a week or two of use. Is the onset of action for Carditone sometimes delayed? If there can be a delay of onset of action in some people, what length of delay can be expected before the person knows that Carditone is not going to be effective for them? It seems that when I started using Carditone, the effect of Carditone on my blood pressure seemed to increase with time and my blood pressure got even lower after about a month or so and that is why I was thinking that there may be a delay of onset of action in some people.
Art ::::::::::::::::::::::::
This was their reply:
' Good morning Art,
My name is Dr. Brian Keenan and I am a naturopathic doctor here at Ayush Herbs. I got your inquiry about Carditone and wanted to weigh in. First and foremost, Carditone is not intended to diagnose or treat any condition and should never be used a substitute for proper diagnosis and treatment from a physician. With that said, I wanted to give some responses for the topics you brought up.
Firstly, when it comes to sinus congestion, it often goes away after about 4 weeks of regular use; however, if it does not go away, or if the sinus congestion so severe that it is unbearable or affects breathing in any way, it is best to discontinue use unfortunately.
For your second question, this is a bit more difficult to give a firm answer two because everyone's body and physiology is different. Some people feel supported by carditone very quickly while others it can take up 6 weeks before they can determine if its a supplement for them. If there is absolutely no change in wellness after 6 weeks, it may not be the best supplement for them.
To reiterate, Carditone is not meant to treat any medical conditions, but is a wonderful cardiovascular support formula that works very well with proper care, diet, and lifestyle changes, to promote lasting cardiovascular wellness.
I hope this was useful and if you have any other questions, by all means, let me know!
Sincerely,
Dr. Brian
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I was really hoping they would have a way so that you would be able to continue to be able to continue taking it since it was controlling your blood pressure, but no luck, . I'm sorry.
Art
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
Given your blood pressure readings it may be worth reading the following links :
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/melatonin-for-cardiovascular-disease.html
https://www.earthclinic.com/melatonin-for-stroke-recovery-and-prevention.html
I'm not trying to scare you, just thinking preventatively and trying to be real about your situation.
In case, Carditone does not work for you, because clearly it does not work for everyone, or if it is not effective enough on its own, as we have also seen on EC, I did have some success with beet root powder, but it was not as effective as Carditone for me. I also got benefit from another regimen I used, but it required 3 supplements multiple times a day and it consisted of NAC, Arginine and Lysine. So it is a bit of work to maintain that regimen, but it isn't too costly.
I understand you are in a difficult situation and perhaps other forum members can add useful suggestions to what I have offered.
I will do a bit more reading to see if I can find anything else that might be helpful and will reply to this thread if I do, but what I mentioned above should keep you busy for awhile.
Art
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
I know, very clearly, that I cannot sustain these high BP levels and I'm scared but have felt that it's just how it was going to have to be. I stumbled onto your post about Carditone and have read every single post and will admit that I'm feeling hopeful. I ended up ordering two bottles but they wont show up until April 7th. I've been taking a couple of other herbal supplements, but they obviously haven't helped. I will continue to take them and add Carditone to the regimen and closely monitor.
I considering taking two a day, once in the morning and once at night, again, closely monitoring. If the Carditone effectively begins to lower my BP, then I will adjust and monitor once it's lower.
I think I will also take Astaxanthin and begin walking. Fatigue has been a problem when trying to walk. I don't even try speed walking at this point, but I will begin again once I start taking the AST. I first want to see my BP numbers drop a bit before I push the walking. I you have other recommendations there, I'm definitely open to suggestions.
I'm sorry it didn't workout for you. I saw that as a potential side effect and it is too bad you weren't able to continue with it since it was working for you, but nasal congestion can be intolerable.
Art
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
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BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS
Earlier in this thread, a man reported that he was taking 3 different hypertension medications and his blood pressure was still uncontrolled and he said he stopped the three medications to start Carditone, which I thought was a really bad idea, and then he reposted to say the Carditone didn't work for him. He posted again after that he said that he went back on his 3 prescription meds for the hypertension and his pressure was still uncontrolled so he decided to add the Carditone to his regimen and he said that finally normalized his blood pressure. Nothing works for everyone, but you can't find out without trying. It's the same with the prescription hypertension meds, doctors will start you on one and then if it doesn't work or you have a bad reaction to it or both, they will switch to another hypertension med to see if it works. I imagine that's why there are so many different hypertension meds.
On that note, one of my friends who was testing Carditone found that it took awhile to get benefit of a reduction in blood pressure. Since you already have the bottle, it seems like it might be worth finishing it to see if it might help over a longer period. The bottle should last two months. Other than that, you might see if Amazon will take it back since it isn't working for you.
Art
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
I'm sorry it didn't work for and thank you for the feedback!
Art
Carditone for High Blood Pressure
★☆☆☆☆
I guess I was hoping for a miracle........
BTW. I got it from Amazon, there were 58 pills inside instead of 60, but that does not bother me, the main thing is, it is a waste of money.
Thank you for your feedback on your use of Carditone. I am very happy that it is working well for you! It is also still working well for my two friends and myself and none of us have noticed any side effects. For the three of us, it has worked better than the prescription blood pressure meds our doctors had us on.
Art
Potential Side Effects
Potential Side Effects
I don't understand why you have so much negativity, but I am not interested in furthering the negativity that you are putting out. EC is all about sharing health remedies, not spreading negativity. There is already plenty of negativity in the world and I would rather not add to it. I have no idea of why you even bring up corruption, but that goes right along with the negativity that you are putting out and I am not interested in any of it.
Art
Potential Side Effects
Potential Side Effects
I report on what I use that has shown effectiveness in friends and no manufacturer pays me a penny for mentioning their product. The answer to your question is no.
Art
Potential Side Effects
EC: No.
Potential Side Effects
In this 2019 study using Carditone for blood pressure control, there is no mention of increased risk of cancer :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6389760/
Here is a relevant quote from the study :
' Conclusions: The findings of this study suggest that the investigated dietary supplement is safe for long-term use in adults with prehypertension and stage I hypertension. Additional results of this study, particularly the increase in serum potassium and decreases in systolic and diastolic blood pressure, are promising and suggest that future research on this dietary supplement, or its ingredients, should further explore effects on blood pressure and biologic mechanisms of action, which may involve potassium-sparing and diuretic effects. '
Please ask your pharmacist which ingredient is cancer causing in the supplement and where they got their information from. Many supplements can be carcinogenic or toxic if the dose is too high. I think if this supplement was causing cancer in anyone it would have been banned a long time ago. Supplements with ingredients that are known to cause cancer generally have a black box warning label stating as much. Carditone has no such warning label and California would definitely require such a warning label if true.
In the study they tested for the level of Reserpine content in the supplements as it is a known cancer causing agent and they determined that the level of Reserpine was very low. Here is a relevant study quote :
' The finished supplement was analyzed for reserpine content via high-performance liquid chromatography and levels were below the lower limit of detection (<0.01%; Intertek, Champaign, IL). Lead analysis showed that levels were <0.2 ppm (Micro Quality Labs, Inc., Burbank, CA). '
R. Serpentina, an ingredient in Carditone has been suggested to cause breast cancer based on rodent studies, but the dosing used in these animals that caused breast cancer was very high as outlined in the following Mayo Clinic article :
Here is a relevant quote from the article :
' Suggestions that rauwolfia alkaloids may increase the risk of breast cancer occurring later have not been proven. However, rats and mice given 100 to 300 times the human dose had an increased number of tumors. '
If this is what your pharmacist is basing their claim on, they should do a bit more research before spreading such misinformation. If you take 100 to 300 times the actual dose of anything, I think you are definitely going to have issues with toxicities of many types including cancer.
Art
