My husband started taking MSM for his frozen shoulder. He believes it significantly helped. After taking it for about 2 weeks he came across an old interview with James Coburn, the actor. His RA was so debilitating, prescription drugs weren't helping. He discovered MSM and said that was the only thing that would help him get out of bed. (Me, I can't take it as it causes heart palps.)
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How did you manage this as my husband cannot lift his arm above his head?
Interesting about the castor oil. DMSO worked great for me, applied topically and orally. Combined with MgCl oil. Needs to be a pure dmso as the only ingredient or something like 99.8%, preferably in glass bottle (I wouldn't buy 90% of the dmso products out there). Dmso takes anything with it direct into the bloodstream/ through your body, so clean dry hands also. Start with several times per day. I apply the dmso first with hands or organic cotton ball, then spray the mgcl and rub in. Leave 30 mins to dry. There is a youtube video with Dr Jacobs on 60 Minutes about dmso. Can't believe it's not used more, but then pain pills might not be needed. Cheers.
Lemon Peel, Olive Oil, Eucalyptus Oil
Lemon Peel/Olive oil/Eucalyptus oil
My journey with frozen shoulder. This is a debilitating condition as I'm sure you know if your searching for a home remedy. It took me about 2 month to recover using these methods. My GF father took over 2 years to get over his frozen shoulder, going to the doctors, had his shoulder scraped, ten units, biofreeze, etc... When I saw him last, his asked how my shoulder was doing and I showed him the results of the Lemon Peel/Olive oil/Eucalyptus oil treatment, he did not believe it (non-believer).
Things I found that work:
Swimming: I recommend swimming, 3+ times a week, the range of movement increased dramatically, and you don't realise how stiff the muscles around the shoulder and shoulder blade become, swimming in the weightless water really eases some of the pain. I flot on my back and do jumping-jacks and other exercises in 4 sets of 10 and try to increase every visit.
I found an ayurvedic remedy that does work.
Lemon Peel/Olive oil/Eucalyptus oil
Lemon peel and Olive oil ointment can be used topically to massage into painful joints, arthritis, gout, varicose veins/poor circulation of the arms and legs, skin fungal, viral and bacterial issues, ringworm, shingles, skin burns, cellulite, chickpox sores, chiliblains, cold sores, mouth ulcers and fever blisters of the mouth, diabetic neuropathy, eczema/psoriasis, foot and hand care, rubbed on forehead for headache/migraine/fever, inflammation, insect bites, nail health, phlebitis/thrombosis for the legs (together with internal use), respiratory problems, and many others.
The phenols in the olive oil will coat and fight inflammation, while the other ingredients go to work on pain and inflammation and the root cause of the problem.
Lemon peel and Olive oil for joint pain relief
To use lemon peels to fight the pain of inflammation. Inflammation in the body is the cause of much pain and illness. Inflammation means that the body's blood vessels are dilated and swollen. This swelling leads to redness, pressure, stiffness and pain. Although pain can be felt anywhere in the body, most commonly the pain of inflammation is felt in the joints. Joint pain can occur in any part of the body that has bone to tissue connection. That means that any one of the 360 joints in your body could be experiencing the pain of inflammation.
Nutritional Value Of Lemon Peel
Lemon peel contains 5 to 10 times more nutrients and minerals than does the juice. It contains calcium. Iron. Magnesium. Phosphorus. Potassium. Sodium. Zinc. Copper. Selenium. vitamin C. Thiamin. Riboflavin. Niacin, Pantothenic acid. vitamin B6. Folate. vitamin A and vitamin E.
The Original Ayurvedic Recipe - How to make Recipe #1
Get the most benefit from lemon peel as possible by following this simple method to extract the pain relieving properties:
* Grate the lemon peel of two lemons
* Remove the yellow part of the rind without grating any of the white pith part
* Put the rind of two lemons in a clean jar and fill the jar with olive oil
* Close the jar and let it rest for 2 weeks (Note: I don't have 2 weeks, see recipe #2)
* Apply the lemon infused olive oil onto clean gauze and wrap or place the gauze onto the area where you are feeling pain
* Wrap the gauze with plastic wrap to seal the oil against your skin
* Place a wool or cloth wrap over the plastic wrap to help keep the area warm
The warmth of your own body heat being retained against your skin will help the lemon peel oil to penetrate into your skin and help your joint pain
Lemon peel can be taken internally and eaten, however, the benefits from the pain-relieving properties of the peel are believed to be best absorbed externally. Some compounds found in lemon peel cannot be passed to the bloodstream through digestion.
Rob's Quick and Dirty Recipe #2
When you apply this remedy made with olive oil and lemon peel topically to the affected area, it will help improve your circulation in order to provide joint pain relief. One of the most overlooked benefits of lemons is that they can help prevent joint pain.
*The ingredients are chock-full of nutrients that reduce inflammation, pain, and stiffness.
*Also, the lemon peel contains substances like limonene, citronella and phellandrene, 3 essential oils that help relax muscles and joints, helping with any difficulty moving. https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/lemon-oil
*The extra virgin olive oil contains antioxidants oleocanthal acid and omega 3 fatty acids, well-known for their ability to help painful, inflamed tissues.
*Together, these ingredients improve cellular oxygenation processes while optimizing the transportation of nutrients to your joints, a determining factor in preventing the breakdown of cartilage.
*However, it's also worth mentioning that the remedy helps stimulate your lymphatic system, a key factor in removing toxins that play a role in the pain.
*Additionally, applying it using massaging motions helps flush out retained fluids, and as if that weren't enough, prevents the accumulation of uric acid.
*Extra virgin olive oil
*6 - 7 organic lemons
*One quart mason jar with lid
*Using a potato peeler, peel all the yellow/white (the pith) parts off the lemons. Then, place the lemon peels in a blender and add enough olive oil to cover them completely. Blend the lemon peels/olive oil together. I use the pulse setting on my blender. You will want to blender it to the texture of apple sauce.
*Next, pour the mixture into the mason jar. Top off the mason jar with olive oil to about 2 inches from the rim.
*Place the mason jar into a pot filled with water on the stove. Add a mason jar ring or rolled up pieces for aluminum foil underneath the mason jar so it dose not make contact with the metal pot. Slow simmer the jar in a warm bath for about 6 hours. Stir mixture with a butter knife every hour. Keep a check on the water level and add more water as needed. After 6 hours, turn off stove and allow to cool to room temperature.
*Stir mason jar and pour out one tablespoon into a small bowl then add the eucalyptus oil (10 drops per tablespoon of oil added to the finished ointment).
*Soak some gauze and place it over the painful area. Ideally you should apply this treatment at night, so that the ointment can soak into the skin while you sleep. Use it just like a Castor oil Pack.
Note: Lemon contain natural molecules that react with UV light and cause a sensitivity reaction and a special type of sunburn. Essential oil companies often label their products that contain these compounds with a warning to avoid direct sun/UV light to the area for 12–48 hours after applying.
How to apply
*First, submerge a gauze bandage into the mixture and then apply it to the affected joint.
*Next, cover the gauze with plastic wrap, and then, if possible, with a wool scarf.
*Then, let the oil work overnight for best results.
*Next, apply every night until you get relief from the pain.
*As a preventative remedy, apply at least 3 times a week.
If you would like an even more relaxing effect for joint pain relief, heat the oil by putting the jar in a bowl of hot water before applying it. But remember to check the temperature to make sure it won't burn your skin. Additionally, you can use it to massage your joints, especially if the pain is due to fatigue or fluid retention.
CYNTHIA,,,,,,,,, ORH here,,,,,,, yep, it works on million dollar horses and will work on you. Posted many times that MSM is from reacting DMSO and H2O2. MSM can be taken internally or used transdermally with DMSO to drive it into yo bod. Suggest all read Dr Jacobs book on both DMSO and MSM. Worked at the farm this morning and our fruit is now breaking our pear and apple tree limbs because of the abundance of fruit. Think the Lord is getting us ready for the hard times that are coming. Just saying.
Here is how I cured my frozen shoulder. I first developed a frozen shoulder in the summer of 2019. I tried everything I could think of, including stretching, exercise, supplements, etc. I suffered increasing pain for several months. But it wasn't until I did the following that I gained relief:
1) I began to take MSM powder, one heaping tablespoon in the morning with water.
2) I used a 50 percent DSMO solution and applied it to my shoulder a few times.3) I added a good Omega 3 fish oil capsule to my daily supplements.
3) I added an Omega 3 fish oil capsule to my daily supplements.
4) I took tumeric capsule once a day.
Within two weeks, all of my frozen shoulder pain was gone! The DMSO helped a lot, but the main thing that really made a difference was the MSM powder. In fact, the frozen pain started after I stopped taking MSM powder. It wasn't until I remembered months later that I had used the MSM powder until I began to travel and then simply stopped taking it.
I also cut the sugar and fat in my diet considerably.
Give the MSM a week or two to see results. If you've never taken MSM powder, begin by taking 1 teaspoon a day the work up to a tablespoon. Some people require more MSM to get the results they seek.
I hope this helps someone who is struggling with Frozen Shoulder. I am so grateful for the MSM and the other supplements I've outlined above -- I can hardly believe that I once suffered as much pain as I did in my shoulder.
Recently I was talking with a neighbor and he was telling me that he had a torn rotator cuff in each shoulder that were very painful and really limited his range of motion. His doctor told him that he needed surgery on both shoulders, but he was not a candidate for the surgery because of an existing heart condition. I told him about mag oil and asked if he wanted to try it. He said, what do I have to lose? I made him a spray bottle of it to try to see if it would help. I talked to him awhile after that and he told me that the mag oil was working great and asked me if I could make him more. I made him a larger bottle so he could use it to refill his spray bottle and he now calls it his secret sauce. He showed me how he could now raise his arms over his head with no problem and very little pain at all! Another friend who has "frozen shoulder" asked me about anything they could use for the frozen shoulder and I suggested trying mag oil which they did and said it was very helpful in relieving the pain and increasing range of motion! We should all have mag oil in our medicine cabinets! Art
I recently had a Rotator Cuff injury which was getting steadily worse over the course of 3 months and causing me agonising pain with most movements. I went to my doctor in desperation who said he believed it to be rotator cuff but would need an MRI or Ultrasound to confirm which would cost $300 and $200 respectively. I decided I would rather put this money into seeking alternative treatment and saw an Orthobionomist who works in a similar way to an Osteopath only instead of stretching out a painful muscle they help the body go with the contraction which prompts the muscle to release. Well, after the first session the shoulder felt better but it only lasted a day. The benefits of the second weekly session lasted 3 days and the treatment progressed in this way until my 4th session, after which the benefits were permanent. The shoulder is about 98% totally cured and each day it gets a little bit better. I only had 4 sessions in total and did not believe physical adjustment could have such profound results.
Glad to hear that castor oil worked for your Rotator Cuff Injury. Castor oil has very high antioxidant level (ORP level) of about - 200 milliVolt (mV). Antioxidants are needed to repair damaged cells in our body. Antioxidants in castor oil can penetrate our skin and reach nearby damaged cells in the body.
A similar treatment can be tried for eye vision problem due to damaged cells in the eye. One can apply castor oil lightly near eyes at night. One can expect gradual improvement in vision.
Castor Oil for Rotator Cuff (infraspinatus) injury throwing Football
I'm 35 years old and about 10 years ago, I was throwing the football (launching 60 yard bombs over and over) at a Halloween party with some buddies, until my shoulder hurt. I kept doing it even after I felt the pain. Foolish mistake. I've had issues with my infraspinatus (one of the four muscles of the Rotator Cuff) since then. I couldn't even reach over to pull the seat belt over myself anymore without it hurting. So I came across these threads and noticed DMSO.
About a week ago I ordered some and it still hadn't come yet, but during this time (for the last week and a half) I've been slathering my right shoulder and rotator cuff with Castor Oil (Hexane Free). It's nothing short of a miracle (at least in regard to pain). For the last couple days, I feel no pain at all, and could probably throw 60 yard bombs again even though I never thought I could even toss a ball let alone throw one without it hurting. I'm still gonna try the DMSO as well. I don't know if the Castor Oil just masks the pain (but doesn't heal the injury), but I'm gonna throw the kitchen sink at it to see if I can completely heal it!
A friend of mine said she cured her shoulder joint problem with colostrum. After a year of pain and trying many remedies, she tried colostrum and in 2 weeks she was better. She fell while on a run and may have done something to the rotator cuff because she couldn't move her arm and mobility was restricted.
Multiple Remedies for Adhesive Capsulitis
Please be aware that Adhesive Capsulitis and other shoulder issues are NOT the same.
I have had Adhesive Capsulitis for about two and a half years. There are adhesions that have grown over my joints. My point is that while you can juice, eat an anti-inflammatory diet, take vitamins, do GENTLE exercises, it's a writing game for the issue to resolve itself. While some may have a quicker resolution, it is probably not a true confirmed case with an MRI/Xray of Adhesive Capsulitis.
Do not feel discouraged that others have gotten over their shoulder issues in a few months, they probably have a different condition and not a true confirmed case of Adhesive Capsulitis. I suggest going on to forums and talking to others with the condition and getting yourself a VERY good RECOMMENDED orthopedic doctor who does not push the surgery on you. Some patients have to have that surgery multiple times and is not guaranteed to work, especially if you are a Diabetic. Not to mention that surgery is pretty darn hard on your body, just be careful with ANY aggressive treatments. Aggressive Physical Therapy actually made my Adhesive Capsulitis worse, so be very careful that that too. It seems to affect us all a little differently, so keep that in mind too.
What helps: Massage does help, hot epsom salts baths, sleeping with a pillow under your arm helps too. A few pain killers are necessary, but be careful not to over medicate or take them too often. Acupuncture helped me for a month or so, but wasn't very effective for me. It just takes time to heal. Hang in there. You are not alone.
I agree very much with this post. For me, if I eat too much gluten I get so much pain in the shoulders and upper arms that I can barely sleep. Dr. William Davis who wrote "Wheat Belly" says there is more sugar in two slices of bread than in a candy bar! Who knew! If I stay off gluten I have absolutely no pain!
Laser Light Therapy
This is a follow up to my previous comment from 2014.
About three years later, I got a frozen shoulder on my opposite arm. This was not due to an injury such as a fall. This was caused during a virus attack with flu like symptoms (fever, runny nose, tired/malaise. nausea, a slight sore throat, etc.) My family of 4 and a foster child in my house came down with this flu like illness. They all recovered within a week-except for me. In the fifth day of this illness I felt severe pain in front of my ear, down my neck and into my right shoulder. My thyroid gland levels (TSH, T3 and T4 all went low).
The severe pain in shoulder and abnormal thyroid levels and tiredness lasted months. Blood testing revealed a CMV virus and low iodine. What helped was putting 5% Lugels iodine (4-6 drops) directly on the painful areas. I also went to Dr. Tent (Novi, Michigan). He had me take 2-500 mg tablets of lysine per day and follow a low argenine diet. I also took a 12.5 mg iodine tablet per day with a 200 mg selenium tablet per day for about 6 months. The shoulder eventually recovered however if I ever feel the slightest pain in the shoulder, I start taking lysine for about a week. I still pop a iodine pill about once a week. I was told by Dr. Tent that I am prone to viruses.
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My mom has frozen shoulder on both shoulders for a long time. I hope this works for her! Thank you for sharing your experience with us!
Epsom Salt, Ice
Three weeks. I would use castor oil hexane free and get a glove on my hand, put oil 1/2-1 tsp. on there and then wear old long sleeve t shirt and make a rice pack from a tube sock ...put a bit of rice in it, half full or less, heat in microwave and put over the castor oil area to make it penetrate into the muscle . Or use heating pad or hot water bottle.You could also add some activated charcoal 1/2 capsule in the castor oil but put saran over that before the shirt and then add heat...sleep with this overnight .... stains everything so take precautions with the works.
Epsom Salt, Ice
Try a Heat Pad. Also likely need Bone mineral supplementation like:
Boron (plus Ted's Borax remedy here on E.C.)
plus Vit-D & K
SalonPas are worth a try.
Epsom Salt, Ice
I have pain in my upper arm. If I raise my arm straight out to the side, I hear crunching in the shoulder joint and have pain-not so much in the joint but definitely in the upper arm. If I raise it to the front there is no pain. I have iced it and soaked in epsom salts bath now for several weeks. Is there anything else I can do? At what point do I go to the dr? I can recall no injury to it, but I do tend to outside chores and who really knows? dr google indicates rotator cuff :( but I don't want that to be it.
I was in constant pain for at least six months until I read these Chinese stretching method posts below written by fellow sufferers. The positive effects of using these stretches was almost instant. I stopped taking painkillers and expensive visits to the physiotherapist.
If someone was to ask me how to fix a frozen shoulder I would now suggest a glucosamine and chondroitin supplement, acupuncture and these very simple Chinese gravity stretches. Thank you very much earthclinic for ending this miserable period in my life
Frozen shoulder is said to be a metabolic problem, related to Dupytren's Contracture and Parkinson's. I noticed when struck with it for the second time that when I ate sugars or carbohydrates with fats the pain would go off the scale. So I cut sugars and carbs out of my diet all together. The pain reduced considerably and I'm recovering at a much faster rate than before.
As well as having a genetic predisposition to it I think for me it's a stress/stomach bacteria related problem. Stress alters the stomach bacteria. Stress also lowers your magnesium levels as you use up your magnesium to produce adrenaline. This has knock on effects in the stomach as you need magnesium to digest your food properly. Badly digested food encourages bacteria to thrive that causes stomach upsets and causes inflammation in the body and these alter the ph to encourage Candida Alicans to thrive. I have suffered with CA after being given iron tablets that allowed the small amount of CA to form a biofilm around itself that protects it from the stomach acids and other bacteria, allowing it to get out of control and cause massive problems.
I don't think that as a species we were meant to eat lots of grains and sugars yet that is what the western diet mostly consists of these days - count how many aisles of a supermarket DON'T contain sugar and grains!
I also took Pau d'arco to kill off bad bacteria and upped my intake of green tea, kimchi, kefir and anything else that supported my good stomach bacteria. Even I am surprised at how quickly the spin reduced. Still quite stiff but beginning to loosen up. But I know if I go back to eating carbs and sugars it will bite me again!
I have a frozen right shoulder and I really want to do the '10 min hung the shoulder over the bed ' do you mean that the shoulder should be below my body like trying to touch the floor or how?
Chinese Stretching Method
How do you get your shoulder like that? I can't even move mine.
Chinese Stretching Method
I would like to make a general comment. After seeing 6 different doctors, X rays, MRI, Ultrasounds, etc etc etc. If any of these options give you fast results the chances are you could be misdiagnosed. It may be I was, I was within minutes of paying $7500.00USD for a procedure. And then, I went for another opinion. My range of motion does not fit the "text book definition of Frozen Shoulder". My shoulder actually moves. So I am taking some of the advise given here and doing some shock therapy. I will be more than happy to give this great forum an update. I am doing MSN, DMSO, Shock and non traditional physio which involves stretching and some standard physio exercises (which includes the stretching listed here) I am so happy I found this site.
The Dr, in Toronto referred above charges between $7500 to $10000 US dollars for the procedures.
Chinese Stretching Method
I was experiencing frozen shoulder about 7-8 out of 10 in the pain department for about 2 weeks. Sleeping at night extremely difficult for only for a few hours at night. Last night I hung my frozen shoulder arm over the bed for 10 min with excellent results. Sleep last night was pleasant without constant pain of the shoulder all locked up. I'm thankful for the advice and the significant increased mobility.
Omg THANK YOU. I stumbled across your post and I have INSTANT relief. I did both stretches, hanging off the side of the bed, and the side - and my range of motion improved at least 50% in FIVE MINUTES. I can't tell you how happy I am. Thank you thank you. Every other stretch /exercise I've tried to do was painful and tedious. Wow, how does everyone not know about these simple stretches. Xoxo
Chinese Stretching Method
Frozen shoulder - stretching
I damaged some tendons in one arm doing heavy overhead lopping. I thought rest would be the best cure but the problem developed into frozen shoulder. I realised after 3 months rest was achieving worse than nothing so finally saw the doctor who recommended 400 mg ibuprofen 3 times daily on a full stomach for 2 weeks to reduce the inflammation. Not something I would normally consider.
After a week the pain and presumably the inflammation did reduce and I tried to hang my arm down over the edge of a bed/sofa, as suggested by Teh's post below.
Very painful at first and I could only manage to dip the elbow down, not the whole arm. But persevere. Day 3 and I can now almost hang the arm down, but some support, resting hand on floor, is still required. Nevertheless this is real progress. Inch by inch I'm getting further. The arm can now get above the horizontal in forward motion but sideways and backward motion is still very limited.
It is absolutely not possible yet to hang the head and arm over the head as also suggested here, but it's a good start.
If you want to take alfalfa or another herbal anti inflammatory in addition to ibuprofen, please research possible interactions, especially if you have any bleeding issues.
Chinese Stretching Method
La-Jin Self Healing Slides by Master Xiao Hong Chi (2012) 1 of 2
These slides will give you a better idea of the exercise. Hope you enjoy.
Vitamins D & K
Anyone with frozen shoulder should research vitamin d3, vitamin k2-4, and to a lesser degree, calcium and zinc intake. The vitamin k2-4 keeps the calcium in your bones where it belongs, and the vitamin d3 helps regulate your hormone levels.
Chinese Stretching Method
hi, could anyone, show us any photo/drawing about the position please?