Natural Remedies for Essential Tremor

| Modified on Oct 21, 2021

Homeopathic Remedies
Posted by Marcia (Usa) on 10/24/2020
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I've had essential tremors for many years. I didn't want to take medicines with side effects. A homeopathic doctor in Mexico recommended a mixture of ignatia/cuprum/hypericum all 30c. A lab in Mexico mixed them together in liquid form. It helped me immensely. However, I'm running out and can, t get this mixture in the USA. Unfortunately, travelling to Mexico isn't good in the time of COVID. I'm researching homeopathic remedies here in the USA.

ET Research Discoveries
Posted by Leo (Las Vegas, NV) on 10/16/2020
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I am researching Essential Tremors (ET) and appreciate all the helpful information by posters here.

Here are two discoveries.

Researchers found postmortem exam of ET people discovered "abnormal connections among the neurons in their cerebellum" and ..... "over active brain neurons that tend to generate overactive brain waves, or too much electrical activity." ET is different than Parkinson's.

“We found loss of the brain protein GluRδ2, which is only expressed in human cerebellum, ” Kuo said. “That causes overgrowth of the cerebellar fibers, which leads to too much crosstalk and oscillations of cerebellar neurons. These neuronal oscillations cause tremors.”

Research is continuing.

https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/new-study-says-essential-tremor-is-caused-by-overactive-brain-waves.

Also Dr Helga Clark discovered that tremors are caused by on-going poisoning. She said she had much by having the person meticulously look for chemical ingestion such as new carpet and furniture odors, chemicals in foods, household cleaners and detergents and more.

Refer her book: Cure for All Diseases, 1995 edition, page 312, Chapter titled: Tremor

New Century Press. Also, Dr Clark.com and Dr Clark. net

Currently looking at everything carefully, and making some changes. I had an analysis of body chemistry that showed high mercury and low magnesium and protein.

Leo

Taurine, L-Theanine, Magnesium
Posted by Denise (Northern Ca) on 08/17/2020

- Hello Kellie,

I don't know if you will get this or if you are on EC anymore but I so loved the info, and how thorough you were. I suffer with ET and haven't found anything that has helped. But I also have not stuck with anything very long because of side-effects I felt may be caused by some of the supplements that were suggested in other posts.

I would love to know how you are doing today if you do get this, and know that I am following your regime starting tomorrow a.m. as I've found taking any supplements is best for me in the a.m. I have Taurine and L-Theonine. I don't have the right dosages (your dosages) but I will try the ones I have. I have already used Magnesium Glycinate in I think it was 400 mg and that was twice a day. I tolerate it very well. I still take Magnesium Chelate at night and a.m. and notice I sleep really well from the nightime dose. So I'm not afraid to try your suggestion of more, or I should say your Doctors suggestion. I tolerate Magnesium very well but it alone has not effected my ET. I shake bad with my head, and my hands.

So I will try this, and stick to it even if I get some side effects that are not horrible as I may adapt if I hang in there ;) Thank you for your post and if anyone at all is reading this, please feel welcome to share any progress you may have made with your ET.


Dietary Changes
Posted by Sara (The Beaches) on 08/15/2020

Some people I know have had success with botox treatment for it. I don't know a lot about it but should not be too hard to enquire with your Dr.


Dietary Changes
Posted by Christine (Sicamous, Bc, Canada) on 08/15/2020 5 posts

I am 66 yrs old, having been battling noticeable ET since I was 60ish and yes, I have tried CBD oil. I find it to be most effective, compared to several other supplements and foods or elimination of same. I will try the KETO diet as anything is worth trying to at least, decrease these so annoying Essential Tremors.


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Christine (Sicamous, Bc) on 08/15/2020 5 posts
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I am 66 yrs old, have been taking at least 1 Tbsp/d of ACV with lemon, honey and baking soda in a ginger powder tea for decades. I believe that ACV is highly beneficial for many conditions but I don't believe that it has had an impact on my ET. I continue to ingest the suggested supplements and foods, avoiding those that are listed as not recommended, yet the ET continue to progress. I do believe that a combination of all/many are helpful but cannot claim that any one is better. For the last 3 yrs, I have taken increasing dosages of CBD oil, which I must admit has had a significant improvement to a general sense of calmness and wellbeing with regards to ET.


Acupuncture
Posted by Jean (Wheeling, IL) on 03/08/2020
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I have essential tremor that affected my jaw and hands. I was gritting my teeth in my sleep because of it, causing pain in the jaw joints. I have been doing acupuncture and my jaw is back to normal and the hands are greatly improved. I can eat soup with a spoon again. It's not totally gone but I can live with this


Taurine, L-Theanine, Magnesium
Posted by Denise (United States) on 05/12/2019 131 posts

Hi Kellie,

my ET has improved some since starting Magnesium back in Oct. 2019. Due to finding info here on Earth Clinic. Mine gets worse under stress though, real bad. For example, I like playing games, video games, but only single-player puzzle types. I ran across one I really loved, but unfortunately, it had a small part that timed you. I didn't think much about it and started the timer, then I would try and get to this little door before it slammed shut. There's a "puzzle" piece behind the door. Anyway, I was trying so hard because you can't move on with the game til you do each part of it, no skipping. My hand on the mouse was shaking so bad I couldn't even click the button each time I tried again. I even tried holding it with the other hand. I was crying and frustrated so bad but I wouldn't give up, stupid of me I know. So much of mine is triggered by my brain. I'm learning some calming techniques, like just sitting in my chair with nothing on except a beautiful nature video and soft music playing. But I have recently read about Taurine again, and going to try it. The article said 3 grams a day, that I read, so I just took 1 gram to start out. I take the Mag. glyconate as well, have the L-theanine but don't take it at this time.

I have to be careful because although some things that have been a help to me with one issue, make another issue (like tinnitus) worse. Trial an error, and then try again:)


Taurine, L-Theanine, Magnesium
Posted by Kellie (Oklahoma) on 03/26/2019
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Taurine may be the key to essential tremors!

About a year ago I developed shaking of both hands (action tremor). This developed suddenly and I was experiencing some other symptoms as well that led my doctor to believe I could have Hyperthyroidism. Tests came back negative for Hyperthyroidism, but I do have antibodies against my thyroid, so the doctor started me on Selenium and a Gluten-free diet. I also had pretty severe iron-deficiency anemia, and mild B-12 & vitamin D deficiency. I felt better after those things were corrected, but the tremors continued as well as the foot/leg cramps and eyelid twitching I had been experiencing. This led the doctor to believe I could be Magnesium deficient. I began taking 460mg of a high quality Magnesium Glycinate supplement. The cramps & twitching resolved (other than occasional cramps), but the tremors only improved a little.

At this point, I was frustrated, upset & worried that I had developed Essential Tremor. I have no family history of ET & come from a very large family; I even knew my extended family & no one had ET. It's possible for it to develop in someone without a family history of course, but I'm in my 40's & wanted to be sure I tried to thoroughly get to the bottom of this before resigning myself to the ET diagnosis.

I started doing some research & came across information about l-theanine being helpful for tremors, so I began taking 200mg twice daily. This helped a lot, but the tremors weren't completely gone. The doctor suggested increasing my dosage of Magnesium, but I have trouble tolerating the higher doses (even of the glycinate).

During my research, I found the Earth Clinic website & was encouraged by the tremor-reducing suggestions. I added 500mg of Taurine once/day a few days ago & my tremor is 99% gone! In fact, if I wasn't so sensitive to it, I wouldn't know I had it at all. It's too early to assume that the Taurine, l-Theanine, Magnesium combo will continue to work, but I'm very encouraged!

Sorry for the long post, but if I can help anyone going through a similar situation, I want to be detailed as to what is working for me in case someone is going through the same thing.

*A positive side effect of taking the l-theanine & taurine is improved mood & less anxiety/stress.

Co-Enzyme NADH
Posted by Nick (NZ) on 06/01/2019
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About eight years ago, my sister and husband noticed a slight head tremor, especially when I bent my head to read my mobile phone. My doctor did a couple of checks then said there was nothing he could do for it. So I went to my naturopath and after some months of magnesium and vitamin B the tremor slowly decreased then stopped. It came back a few years ago and I consulted a different naturopath who put me onto NADH which is a Co-Enzyme, antioxidant form of vitamin B3. The tremor stopped after several months taking one tablet a day. I use ENADA, NADH from iherb. I stopped it several months ago and the tremor started coming back so I started it and it stopped straight away. I will be on it for life. It's wonderful to have found a natural supplement that has stopped tremors when the doctor said there was nothing he could do so I wanted to share this and hope it helps someone else the same way it helped me.

Magnesium
Posted by Kristen Holmes (United States) on 04/06/2020
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For Essential Tremors,

Dr. Carolyn Dean of The Magnesium Miracle 2nd Ed (a must-read for *anyone* with chronic health issues!) says in interviews that any magnesium that is well-absorbed will cross the blood-brain barrier; magnesium threonate had a single, questionably done study behind it, and the price is very marked up because of this. Ionic magnesium chloride is the true gold standard for absorption. Magnesium glycinate may be the next best option. Topical is great but you have to do lots of it every day, and it gets cost-prohibitive if that's your only method


Avoid Poultry
Posted by Jessica (USA) on 06/11/2020

Hi Nevin, Isn't that something? Seems they were on to something. I'm glad to help! Good luck with your tremors. I believe you can have some control about slowing the progress or even stopping it...MAYBE even hope for some reversal/healing when the toxic load is lessened :)


Avoid Poultry
Posted by Nevin (Atlanta) on 06/10/2020
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This is very interesting because I've had an essential tremor for a long time and according to Eat Right For Your Type (blood type) I should not eat any poultry. I had a bioenergetic assessment done that indicated I should have no poultry. I had a Chinese body type assessment done and AGAIN it indicated that I should not have poultry. Thank you Jessica!


Avoid Poultry
Posted by Jessica (USA) on 06/10/2020
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A naturally occurring chemical called harmane is associated with essential tremor. It is present in meat, but is in very high concentrations in chicken (and I assume other poultry). The theory is that people who develop essential tremor cannot clear harmane as well as those who don't. Anyway, it stands to reason that it might be best to avoid chicken and poultry if essential tremor is an issue for you or runs in your family. https://www.medscape.com/answers/1150290-61693/what-is-the-role-of-harmane-a-heterocyclic-amine-hca-in-the-etiology-of-essential-tremor

Acupuncture
Posted by Jean (Wheeling, IL) on 03/19/2020
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Acupuncture has helped tremendously. It's not totally gone but I can eat soup with a spoon again.

Systemic Candida and Essential Tremor Link
Posted by Laura (Juliette GA 31046) on 05/19/2019

Does anyone suspect a link to systemic candida and essential tremor?


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by John S. (Suffolk, England) on 12/31/2018

Hi; back again! Just to say that I hope everyone is coping, or even better, improving. The strength and steadiness in my hands is increasing, along with confidence and, hopefully, a beneficial move to somewhere more manageable. Still taking the supplements, and suspect that will continue. As long as I can draw and paint, that's the main thing. Let's see if we can make it a good new year. Take care everyone. Be 'seeing' you.


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, Acetyl L-Carnitine
Posted by Art (California ) on 11/20/2018 1049 posts

Phyllis,

Many people don't realize that the currently available meds for PD and most supplements do nothing to halt or even slow disease progression and they merely work to try and control symptoms while the underlying disease progresses unabated even though symptoms may be well controlled for now. Eventually the meds can lose effectiveness even with increased dosing until they may no longer control the symptoms that he is taking them for. What I am talking about is different in this respect. When you are relatively symptom free is the time to be as proactive as possible in order to preserve what you have before the disease progression level becomes too advanced and irreversible damage is done to the brain.

I understand what your husband is saying and so I will stop here.

Art


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, Acetyl L-Carnitine
Posted by Phyllis (Fl) on 11/20/2018

Hello Art. My husband said that he doesn't think that his Parkinson disease is not bad yet and does not want to add another supplement. I will be in touch if and when he decides that he needs more supplements for his condition. Thanks again.

Phyllis


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 11/17/2018

I cannot take vegetarian capsules. Some may be able to tolerate them but I cannot.

KT


General Feedback
Posted by Dardenel (Us) on 11/16/2018 53 posts

Apologies on all the replies, but I figure things out late sometimes..I want to add that from today on, I am going to open the capsule of the mag. citrate, and pour it into a bit of unsweetened applesauce that I have on hand. I won't be using any capsules unless they are vegetarian type after reading about the Bovine/gelatin. I just want to test this info out. Also, I am shopping gluten free after reading a couple of posts below. thank you again Kt, Denise


General Feedback
Posted by Dardenel (Us) on 11/16/2018 53 posts

so sorry, I forgot to mention what is in the only gelatin capsule I have, which is the Mag. Citrate one. If I'm reading the label right, it says Other ingredients equals Gelatin (bovine) Croscarmellose, vegetable magnesium stearate. naturalist brand.


General Feedback
Posted by Dardenel (Us) on 11/16/2018 53 posts

Hi Kt, Denise here, and I mention in another post that hopefully will show up here, I had to change my account. Anyway, I am overwhelmed by that link. MSG is in everything pretty much, and the conclusion on the tests are horrific:( I'm not sure how to avoid msg, totally. But you can be sure I'll be studying how to. Since this is the tremor thread, I will just talk about that for now. My tremor seems to be almost absent at times. It isn't 24/7 like it was. Mine is mostly in my left hand, and head shakes side to side. It's not shaking now for example, and my hands are doing fine on the keyboard. The left is a bit jerky. It's weird because if I am not thinking about my head shaking, sometimes I realize it isn't shaking. Then when I think about it, it shakes. I am having a lot more energy now with all I am doing for my tremor, and other issues. The 3 main ones are in order of importance to me, spleen enlargement, tremor, tinnitus. I take these things every day now but recently read where Ted says that supps shouldn't be done every day. I think he said 4 - 5 days a week?? I'll try to find that post from Ted. So here is what I take now: Tbsp ACV, tbsp EVCO, tbsp blackstrap molasses, home-made ginger tea, 2 parts chicory coffee + 1 part regular coffee at 2 cups. 300 mg magnesium twice a day as Mag. citrate and Mag. Glycinate. Just 100 twice a day with citrate. 1 x B-50 Complex, 1 x extra B12 5000 mcg, chewable, 2 x Vitamin C at 1000 mg, 1 x zinc 50mg, 1 x D3 2000 IU. This regiment has changed some in the 39 days I've been working on all of it. I have copied the books you mention and will take a look at those for sure, thank you Kt. I'm not having any side effects from anything I know of right now. Next stop, Tinnitus thread. It's way bad last 2 days.


General Feedback
Posted by Dardenel (Us) on 11/16/2018 53 posts

Hi Kt, I will try to catch up here, this is Denise. I had to change my account as the site wouldn't let me login, or post. Not sure what the issue was. Anyway, I'll just say for now, when you had mentioned ingesting the capsules, I thought you meant the whole supplement, not the gel container capsule. I'll see if this will post, and then hopefully be back to add more;)


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 11/15/2018

This is an update for my advising Denise/Art to eat a banana if one gets diarrhea. I have discovered that because bananas are cloned, they can cause problems with yeast infections. I have a short story about that but thought it best to give a "heads up" now. I was never a banana consumer but would eat them just because they were here when my hubs bought them. Before he got sick last Feb. we had stopped buying them because of the cloning news. Since he has been home, forgot about the news and started getting them again, I have only eaten three and now I am having a problem with yeast. Hindsight is 20/20...bananas were the cause in the past...when will I learn??

KT


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by Art (California ) on 11/11/2018 1049 posts

Phyllis (Fl),

I have a lot of information for your husband when he is ready, just need to figure out a way to get it to you when that time comes.

Art


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by Phyllis (Fl) on 11/10/2018

Thanks, Art, for the response concerning Parkinson disease for taking the supplements that you suggested for my husband.

I will have him read the recommendation and hopefully he will research the supplements recommended.


Avoid Gluten
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/30/2018

Dear Friends: I wanted to mention this earlier but just didn't. I was diagnosed with IBS several years ago and I noticed sourdough pretzels were really hard on my GI tract so I avoid sourdough anything.

I used to bake my own bread with unbleached naturally white flour. I could not use the typical "bread flour". I stopped because it seemed more of an expense and a waste of time for me and it was not that much better than what we can purchase for reasons below.

I strongly feel that infiltration of GMO's cannot be avoided just due to wind and bird droppings that has gone on for decades. Our entire food supply has been tainted. Now it would be a good time for a Bible lesson about this but not everyone wants to embrace that so I'll practice self-control.

The reason I got into the food issue was because I had traumatic brain injuries along with several head & neck traumas. My difficulties are called "Head injury Deficits". They are also ADHD characteristics. When I started seeing news briefs about the toxic effects of MSG and the onset of Alzheimer's along with other neurodegenerative diseases I felt there had to be a common denominator. There is...our food supply.

We get Nature's Own Butterbread and I can only eat one slice at a time, but not everyday. Oh, I know, it's got other bad stuff in it but taking magnesium and vit. C offer some protection and I am able to tolerate it. Sometimes I use a red skin potato as a bread exchange. Since I weeded various hidden sources of MSG out of my diet and started cooking differently, my mind became clearer and my fits of rage are nil.

I truly hope some of this will help you dear friends looking for answers.

Love,

KT


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by Phyllis (Fl) on 10/30/2018

Thanks for the information of when you took both supplements. Right now I'll stay on one of each morning and evening to see if it helps the essential tremor and also better sleep,


Avoid Gluten
Posted by John S. (Suffolk, England) on 10/30/2018
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All: There seem to be a number of articles on Noncoeliac Wheat Sensitivity. Also a TED talk.

Additionally; connections between this sensitivity and neurological damage, re: lesions and the occurrences of Schizophrenia, Autism Spectrum Disorder and Essential Tremors. Time, maybe, to either deal with the inconvenience of maintaining a completely wheat-free diet or putting up with all the disorders that it seems to be creating. It begins to look as if going to sourdough may not be enough. I've tried what they call 'gluten-free'. It's disgusting and disproportionately expensive, as are any products under the 'special' diet label. People try the Paleo Diet. Need to investigate.

Avoid Gluten
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/29/2018

I thought I would mention to you that my husband gets violent when he eats whole wheat. I don't know what makes the difference, but we can eat bread made from wheat flour and Spelt without getting riled. The store ran out of the bread we usually get so I got the same brand in whole wheat. Oh my goodness, I had to throw more than half the loaf away. In addition, he cannot eat whole wheat crackers without getting grumpy. The same thing happened to me when I ate yogurt. I loved yogurt but our daughter observed how irritable I got when I ate yogurt...plain yogurt, so I just stopped. I am able to drink 2% milk but I get it in glass bottles, not plastic. Not everyone can tolerate the same thing so that's why I said it had been over a two decade piecemeal endeavor.

Here's one report: GLUTEN AND SCHIZOPHRENIA Fri, 05 Apr 13 08:22:39 -0500 04/04/2013: Lily from Kelowna, BC: "Dr. HOFFER did not only recommend vitamins and supplements. He also recommended a gluten, dairy & sugar free diet for most patients. It has been well known since the 1950's that wheat gluten can cause various schizo type behaviors. I heard Dr. Hoffer speak at a psych class at the U of S in 1964 also later at a public forum in Saskatoon.


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/28/2018

In addition to separated B vitamins, broken amino acids can also cause problems when taken separately. They can offer temporary relief but long term...?? Glutamic acid is one that we recognize as MSG when it is a consequence of manufacture. An investigative reporter, formerly with CBN had been advised about that when he researched the toxic effects of aspartame and manufactured glutamic acid. They are chemically similar. "Excitotoxins, The Taste that Kills" is an informative book by Russell L. Blaylock, M.D. and another is "In Bad Taste, The MSG Syndrome" by George R. Schwartz, M.D. who wrote the Forward to Dr. Blaylock's book.

KT


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by Dardenel (Us) on 10/28/2018 131 posts

The Theanine Serene does help me sleep at night, and the dosage per day is 2 tablets so I feel pretty safe doing that. I take mine about an hour before bed as I do get a teeny bit drowsy. But in the a.m. when I take it I don't feel drug out, so it's probably sort of a mystery how that works, but it works;) I also take the magtein dose with that at night (I take 2 magtein a day) and with it in the a.m. too:)


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/28/2018

Dear John,

I think you confused Denise with me?? I am the one that reported to her as having had a spitfire temper. I am old now and under control just by avoiding things that I know can upset me, (i.e., capsules and hidden sources of MSG). My husband still flies off once in awhile but I know he eats things that affect him that way. I don't get upset and argue back anymore. I can stay away from him until he cools down.

Hindsight is 20/20. I was eating a lot of hidden MSG from a variety of sources in addition to whole wheat bread which has been reported directly linked to schizo behavior.

KT


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by Phyllis (Fl) on 10/27/2018

I started taking these supplements this morning. One of each like your husband did. I have a hard time sleeping during the night most nights. So do you think that it would be helpful if I also took another one of the theanine serene before bedtime to see if I would sleep better?

I read all of your posts concerning essential tremors and I am very hopeful that this will help me also. I would prefer to just take one of each per day (in the morning) but I read other testimonials on another site and they all seem to be helped by taking it before bedtime to sleep better. Thanks for all you informative posts about how it helps with essential tremor.


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/27/2018

Just an amendment to dissolving capsule contents in water. I was only thinking of magnesium in a capsule. Other ingredients can be poured in unsweetened applesauce. I am adamant about the capsule and combinations of other "inactive" ingredients could be contributing to the jitters you report. I drink more than two cups of coffee (not weak).You'll never know until you stop ingesting the capsules and it will take awhile to get totally out of your system. If you take anything that contains a hidden source of MSG, even a minute amount of citric acid, that could activate the effects of the capsules. Broken amino acids can also cause problems.

Additionally, when my husband's spleen was enlarged I was looking for information to help him. This is what I found: http://www.jpabs.org/view_issue.php?title=Some-effects-of-monosodium-glutamate-administration-on-the-histo-architecture-of-the-spleen-and-pancreas-of-adult-Wistar-rats

KT


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/25/2018 131 posts

Hey Art, and anyone following.

I wanted to give you an update since it's been 17 days of sticking with it all;)

The only issue I had that is negative is the shakey jitters and I have it pinned down to taking my supps without food. I've been taking them early in the a.m. when I get up, all of them, except the night dose which I have been doing for just a couple of days now, again, with no nightmares/vivid dreams. Yesterday I started SAMe for my depression which I've had since I was a child (a whole other story than my tremors). I now drink zero coffee, quit that 2 cups in the a.m. habit, and replaced it with Chicory coffee, I love it!! And yes, that could have had something to do with the jitters, although before I started supplementing, I never had jitters from those 2 cups, not that I remember anyway. Here is what I am taking each day now and I'll include the things I take that have to do with other issues: Theanine Serene w/Relora 2 per day Acetyl L-Carnitine 1 per day Magtein 1 per day B50 Complex 1 per day D3 2 per day Magnesium Citrate 1 per day (may not need this, not sure yet) Magnesium Glycinate 1 of 400 mg per day Alpha Lipoic Acid 1 of 200 mg per day Virgin coconut oil 1 tbsp plus (sometimes a bit more) Blackstrap Molasses 1 - 2 tbsp per day Ginger Root tea Home-made, 1-2 cups I think that's it, and like you say Art, I do want to stick with this for now, at least a month maybe longer.

I sleep wayyyyy better at night, amazing! More calm for the most part, tremor is sometimes so unoticeable but then it comes up when I am slightly agitated or stressed. Also, when I got that sicky feeling (kind of like hypoglycemic type) my tremor goes nuts. I do know all the things I'm taking are helping me feel more hopeful about my health. I still have my "full-feeling" in my spleen, and my tinnitus is bad most of the time. I still think all these things will eventually get better.


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, Acetyl L-Carnitine
Posted by Art (California ) on 10/22/2018 1049 posts

Phyllis (Fl),

What has shown benefit in Parkinson's Disease is thiamine / vitamin B-1. It has shown potential to significantly reduce many of the multiple symptoms associated with PD when used at high oral or intramuscular dosing.

Art


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, Acetyl L-Carnitine
Posted by Phyllis (Fl) on 10/20/2018

Does anyone know if the Theanine Serene and the Magtein would help Parkinson disease? I ordered this today for my essential tremor but my husband has the start of Parkinson disease and wondered if it might help him.


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/19/2018

Denise,

For your reply to me on the 18th:

I agree with Art, if something is working for you keep doing what you're doing except taking the mag citrate. The magnesium that you ordered, is it 500 mg. capsule or tablet?

I only took 500 mg. tablet just before meals until my neck healed.

Make sure your hands are very dry. You can twist capsules to open them and pour contents in some water to dissolve or bite gel caps to remove contents then spit the capsule out. You can cut tablets in half. Now I have mag oxide powder I dissolve 1/4 rounded tsp. in no more than 1/2 C orange juice or water before breakfast then sometimes a 250 mg. tab before a meal.

Before I eat anything that contains oxalates I try to take more magnesium before I eat. You can Google a list of foods that contain oxalates.

I am not troubled with tremors but I will get arthritis pain, kidney stones or gallstones if I don't get adequate fat and magnesium. You really have to experiment. My concern for you was stopping the tremors first that I believe has been proven to be a magnesium deficiency. Then learning to adjust with making food your medicine.

KT


Vitamin Deficiency and Tremors
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/19/2018

Denise, I'll have to dig up my records to give you numbers but when I was below normal because I was not outside as much my PCP encouraged me to get the vitamin D supplements. I increased my D by sitting in the sun about 20 minutes a day plus after I read what the NA stated about vitamin D supplements. It reports the body's need for D can be met by exposure to sunlight 10-15 minutes a day several times a week. It also declares that Vitamin D supplement is the most toxic vitamin of all supplements and should be used with caution. Take something outside to read in the morning. I take my Bible. KT


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, Acetyl L-Carnitine
Posted by John (Suffolk, England) on 10/19/2018

We get there in the end! But, aren't we complicated. I'm ordering some more of the Theanine Serene and the Magnesium Threonate the coming week. I am thinking of setting up an art website with a friend of mine. That's my confidence returning. Many thanks for the steering. Your post gave me a positive direction. Please, thank your husband as well for me.


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, Acetyl L-Carnitine
Posted by John (Suffolk, England) on 10/19/2018

Denise,

What I am getting is the occasional twitch in the bicep. But, I am able to hold a line and trace over it with 99.9 percent accuracy. Fingers still feel weaker than they used to, but they are getting stronger. Time taken, this time round because I couldn't afford the supplements, but had to grab them as the opportunity arose, I would say the overall period was four months. That's stopping and starting annoyingly. So, although there was a build up, I couldn't continually take them without breaks in the regimen. On a daily basis, without fail, I've been on the full dose since 5th September. I've also been adding, with varying degrees, Magnesium Citrate, Good Guru Memory and Focus, 8 grams of Vitamin C daily and Spirulina. Spirulina is a semi-regular in my ordinary diet anyway. I also add to smoothies some Gotu Kola, Brahmi and as many green sources of Magnesium as possible with fruits using my Nutri Ninja. I blitz up the Mag Citrate in the smoothies. I'm not zinging like I used to, chronological damage I think! But, things are definitely getting better and I'm not using all my strength trying to control tremors and I'm sleeping more soundly. As Marshall Sam McCloud used to say, "There y' go! ".


Vitamin Deficiency and Tremors
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/19/2018 131 posts

Thank you for this post, as I am researching the recommend I got from my PA (physicians assistant) on the bloodwork I had done. It showed D was low (see pic below if interested in the numbers). So she put me on 2000 IU once a day, which is not enough if I multiply my weight (138) by 35 iu as you mention. That would be close to 5000 per day. I'll do more reading today to see if I should take at least 2 per day if not 3 to get my D where it should be.

She also gave me D3 which I don't know what other D's there are at this point of my learning, so I'll check on that.



Supplements
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/19/2018 131 posts

For anyone that might be following my progress, I wish I could just edit and add to my post, but by replying to it seems the only way so here I am again:)

I slept good lastnight, no nightmares, or waking up every, 2 hours. I didnt take anything of my supps before bed, and no ginger tea. I did everything earlier in the day, most of supplements in the a.m. I think I can put in a picture below of a list of what I am taking for Essential tremor so I will try to do that for those who dont know where and how I started this journey;) I have trouble navigating the site, but learning.

Yesterday I bought Magnesium Glycinate because I believe it will be easier to take larger doses of it for me. It was suggested I take 500mg of Magnesium before breakfast but I was afraid to do my citrate form do to possible diarrhea. But this a.m. at 5:30 I took my glycinate before anything to eat, as suggested. 400mg in 2 tabs, and I took the citrate, 1 cap to equal 500mg. I will let you know how that works for me.

Yesterday I took 2 of my new Mag-glyc. right away at 2:30 on an empty stomach, as I didnt want complications during the night, if there were to be any. No problems at all. I also did not have a headache in the night as I had the last couple of nights, and not sure which supplement, or something I ate may have caused that.

Anyway, lets see if I can plugin a pick of my list for folks to see what I am up to;) Denise



Supplements
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/18/2018 131 posts

I wanted to just add that I did get my Magnesium Glycinate, 400mg (2 tablets equal 400mg) I took 2 early today at 2:18 pm. I figured if I was going to have a bad reaction (diarhea, etc.) I'd rather have it during the day. I had nothing at all except felt more calm after I took them. That could be my other supps kicking in that I took in the a.m. too though. I'm just glad to report no ill effects, and it looks like I'll be getting enough Magnesium now with what I get in this new glycinate, as well as what I get in my Theanine Serene. I plan to try it first thing in the a.m. before a meal and see how it goes. 500 mg was suggested but 2 of these are 400, and I also take Magtein, and the Serene.

I also wanted to mention I have ordered chicory root as an alternative to coffee. I only drink 2 cups in the a.m. but the lady at the Wild River market (health food store) says she knows a gal that comes in and 1 cup was bothering her and when she quit that, her tremors disappeared completely. Who knows what other sups she may take as well, but I figure it is worth a try and I truly don't enjoy the coffee that much anyway. I just hope the chicory tastes ok, good reviews from a few folks on Amazon, but many mix it with coffee which I'm not going to do.

I am hoping to "not" have that jittery, sickie stomach feeling tomorrow about 11 or Noon'ish. Not sure what is causing it, so will try elimination process to see if maybe the acetyl L-carnitine could be it. Trial and error right? Or, trial and success!!

Denise


General Feedback
Posted by Art (California ) on 10/18/2018 1049 posts

Denise,

It is better to stick to one regimen at a time and your current one has already shown itself to work in someone else and you are already starting to see benefit at a relatively early stage so I encourage you to stick with it for more time to give it a chance to work to the fullest!

Art


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Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/18/2018 131 posts

I don't know how to take them another way Kt? I'm interested in finding out though? Also, I am having terrible nights, well, exaggerate on "terrible" but I'm waking up frequently and wondering if I'm even getting into full REM sleep now. I also am having weird, and sometimes nightmare ish dreams. Any advice on that? I am taking just the Serene (Theanine with Relora) Acetyl L Carnitine, and Magtein at night, nothing else.

My dinner was salmon, and roasted vegies. I did a tsp of Coconut oil with an English Muffin lastnight too. I did have Ginger tea (home-made) but before dinner around 3 pm. My book hasn't arrived yet from ebay, and they say between the 18 and like a week later (can't remember the date offhand). Thanks for your replies Kt, it's good not to feel alone in this.


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, Acetyl L-Carnitine
Posted by Soazburrolady (Southern Az) on 10/18/2018

Dear John,

Woo-hoo!!! Can't tell you how happy it makes me to hear of your "tremor - free" status. Nothing makes me happier than people overcoming health challenges, especially through Earth Clinc. I recommend this site to people all the time, but, as you know, you can only lead a horse (or burro! ) to water.

I have a bit of an art background myself, 30 years ago it was painting, but I mostly enjoy metal working now. Creativity is good for the soul!

Continued good health and blessings for peace and happiness through your artwork.

Soazburrolady


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/17/2018

Denise,

In my opinion you really need to stop ingesting the capsules.

KT


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/17/2018

I would suggest you start low to see how you tolerate it.

KT


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/17/2018 131 posts

Hey Art,

I doubt I can go the shots, not through my medical care (or lackthereof) but have you any info on Thiamine working (as you mention) as well? I'll do a google, etc., on it and see as I am just trying to find other things to be ready to try if over a month, 2, or 3 I don't see a good difference.

I read this today, and find it so interesting, and totally believeable. It makes sense because I know our bodies are no less than "amazingly created", imo;)

This should show a post by Cindy, let me know if it doesn't, anyone reading this;)

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/multiple_ailments6.html#tips_161481


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, Acetyl L-Carnitine
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/18/2018 131 posts

WONDERFUL John!! How long did it take to notice a major difference as I've been on the same regime for 9 days only? I understand it can take a different amount of time for each "body" but I would love to know, Denise

PS Again, I am so happy for you and it is so reinforcing of my belief in a natural remedy can be out there for us;)


Supplements
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/18/2018 131 posts
4 out of 5 stars

My Experience after 9 days of taking Theanine Serene with Relora, Acetyl L-Carnitine and Magtein for my tremors. I've been very consistent with my new supplements, and am still, very hopeful as it just hasn't been that long since I started them on the 8th of this month (Oct. 2018). I haven't noticed a continuous, steady difference in my tremor yet, but yes, some improvement. I am still reading as much as I can on deficiencies. One thing that is most noticeable in improvement, is that I feel more calm, but not knocked out or sleepy.

Some reading may remember that I have several issues going on, and trying to take something for each. Some sups as you know, work on several areas, so I am so glad for that as money doesn't grow on trees;)

My daily dosages:

Theanine Serene (source naturals ) 2 x per day

Acetyl L-Carnitine (same brand @ 250mg) 1-2 per day (label says 4 per day)

Magtein (just started this one which I received on 10/16/2018) 1 X per day

other supplements I take for other issues (but some help w/tremors I hear):

B50, D3, Alpha Lipoic Acid (tinnitus/ringing in the ears), Blackstrap Molasses (spleen), Coconut Oil (for iodine, and other benefits of EVCO)

For those out there like me, that are working hard to replace what our bodies are lacking in nutrition, I wanted to add a "post" I found here that was very helpful to me in understanding how supplements work, or this person's opinion on it. I am believing on it because I know that it takes a long time to get into bad shape, so I figure it isn't going to happen overnight, getting some healthy balance and working-order, back into my organs:

Posted by Cindy (Illinois, Usa) on 05/13/2016

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/multiple_ailments6.html#tips_161481

Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, Acetyl L-Carnitine
Posted by John (Suffolk, England) on 10/18/2018
5 out of 5 stars

Hi again, Soazburrolady. Just wanted to say, I am now TREMOR FREE! Using your husband's recommended combination.

Magnesium Threonate, Theanine Serene with Relora and Acetyl L-Carnitine.

Will keep taking, along with top ups of Magnesium Citrate and, occasionally, the Good Guru supplement that I mentioned. But, it's definitely those initial three that made and make the difference. Have started making art submissions again. Bless you for your initial post on the subject. Looks like I can have my artist's life back again. Thank you.

General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/16/2018 131 posts

it's hard to find posts for me, but I'm getting the hang of it. My Mag. info is 2 or 3 posts up on the page I'm on (which was the link in my email for your last post to me).

Ok, on the book, it's on it's way, very good price, and the Mag. I'll just have to try. I am having bad shakes this a.m. but taking my "sups" the way it says to. I have not been taking my Mag citrate but started it again this a.m. Only 100mg though. I don't know that it will help. I want to be able to try more like you had mentioned the 500mg but a bit scared to try that with the citrate so will wait for my taurate to arrive.


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/16/2018

I think we are communicating on two different threads?? I am trying to reply to the one you mentioned another magnesium supplement. Reading the description, it sounds like a good one but you need to pay close attention to the other ingredients in it. I don't know anything about it and everyone is able to tolerate different combinations more than others.

Capsules are a real problem for me. In the manufacture of a capsule whether gelatin or vegetable, a manufactured glutamic acid (MSG) is created. It is a nerve stimulant. By a piecemeal process of elimination I learned I am sensitive to the toxic effects of a capsule. For example when I ingest a Bromelain capsule I will experience prolapse but I don't have a problem with prolapse if I open the capsule and pour the contents in some food like applesauce. Ligaments hold organs in place. Hidden sources of MSG stimulate some nerve cells to death. The body is always trying to regenerate itself but there will come a time too much has been destroyed and will not be able to. The same thing happens to me IF I ingest the capsules for serrapeptase. I know it is the capsule. Like I know pepper will make me sneeze.

For well over two decades I've learned I am fine-tuned into some "inactive" ingredients that can cause me problems. Any combination can be harmful. I believe the people who went to the food industry to have them test their own products more than my PCP and the administration who is supposed to protect us.

KT


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/16/2018

Denise,

I have the Nutrition Almanac paperback manuals. I guess you are looking online??

That fifth edition you found should be fine. Lavon J. Dunne is only shown on my third edition but John D. Kirschmann, Director of Nutrition Search, Inc. is shown on the ones I have so you are in the right ballpark!

KT


Dietary Changes
Posted by Megan G. (Colorado) on 10/16/2018

Hi Diane,

I am wondering if you ever tried essential oils for your tremors? I use essential oils for everything under the sun and I am curious if you have found any relief? I am researching and looking into it for myself as well as my husband and father (Parkinson's). I have noticed a difference in mine a bit since I started drinking Ningxia Red everyday. I am willing to try any natural remedies and would prefer to stay away from medications. Thanks for any info you have!


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/15/2018 131 posts

Also Kt, I have the almanac "sample" only, haven't gotten the Kindle edition yet. Wanted to make sure I get the one you recommended. This one is by Lavon J. Dunne and it says it's the 5th edition?


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/15/2018 131 posts

Hi Kt, thank you so much! I've been researching which Magnesium is best for me, and found this info below. I want to get this one, and wondering about the dosage. Would it be different than the amount you suggested in the a.m. before food I wonder. Thank you again Kt, good to see you. I am taking all my sups, no shakies, so I think maybe it was caused by caffeine in my coffee. I am drinking it very diluted now. I know I need to just get off the darn stuff and will, I'm sure I will:)

Magnesium taurate -- Magnesium taurate is the best choice of magnesium supplement for people with cardiovascular issues, since it is known to prevent arrhythmias and guard the heart from damage caused by heart attacks. Magnesium taurate is easily absorbed (magnesium and taurine stabilize cell membranes together), and it contains no laxative properties.


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/15/2018

Denise,

Go to the top of the page and click "My Account" then select "My Feedback" and everything you have posted will come up. To follow posts, click the "eye" on the bottom right.

KT


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/14/2018 131 posts

hello christine,

Sometimes I'll read a post, then not be able to find it again. I just found yours that gave me hope as well as other's I've found;) I am just getting ready, literally, to submit my order for Magtein, and Magnesium Phosphate, or as it is called in a homeopathic by hyland, Magnesium Phophorica (spelling?). Feedback from you, or anyone else for that matter, very welcome. The Magtein I find I can actually afford is NOW brand.


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/14/2018 131 posts

Good to know Kt, I think I've got those on the run, except for the spleen thing which I haven't had diagnosed, but everything I read points to that organ, and it's location.


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/14/2018 131 posts

Thanks Art. I don't think that's what it is though, since I did do that one this a.m., with no shakes. I thought it might be the blackstrap but took that too this a.m. The only ones I haven't this far through the day are the Acetyl L Carnitine, and my B50. About to take those now.

I still don't have the Magnesium Phosphate I want to get since trying some of a friend's, and I felt calm just in a few minutes. You put them under your tongue and they are by hyland. Also, I haven't gotten the Magtein yet. I can tell you that my tremor is definitely better than it was, and my feeling of more calmness is way better. I suppose it's interlinked of course, that if I "feel" more calm, less stress, less anxiety, my tremors would be better:)


General Feedback
Posted by Art (California ) on 10/14/2018 1049 posts

Denise (Crescent City, Ca),

The alpha lipoic acid is fully capable of causing that problem in some people with essential tremors!

Art


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/13/2018 131 posts

Morning Kt,

Something I am taking is giving me the "inside" jitters, tremor is better for the most part, but in the a.m. after I've taken my sups. I get jittery after about a half hour. I'm off the Mag Citrate, so I am not sure what's doing it. I am still doing my Blackstrap, 1/16 of a tsp of stevia in my coffee (which I haven't gotten jitters from any of the above before) and only 2, weak cups of coffee.

I didn't take my sups this a.m. just to see if the jitters are from the above though to be sure.

Any clues what I might be taking now that would give me jitters? Here's the list again:

  • Serene (source naturals, theanine w/relora) for tremor
  • alpha Lipoic Acid (for tinnitus)
  • blackstrap, 1 tsp (but try to get in at least 2 a day) spleen - never caused me any jitters before I started the above items
  • Acetyl L-carnitine (tremor)
  • B50
  • D3
  • vco
  • acv

Any idea on anything causing that jittery feeling? I haven't taken any sups this a.m. yet and not jitters.


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/13/2018

Hello again Denise,

Here is a link that may help with your digestive issues:

https://www.edisoninst.com/15-benefits-of-drinking-lemon-water-in-morning-empty-stomach/

KT


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/12/2018

The friends I mentioned doing research on ingredients started the site, www.truthinlabeling.org. They provide a list of possible hidden sources of MSG. When you reheat food...why leftovers taste so much better...you are creating more manufactured glutamic acid that stimulates your taste buds to want more. Those of us who were in the consumer group, NOMSG, recognize a variety of symptoms from arthritis and asthma to heart palpitations or road rage that are MSG reactions but because everyone eats differently not everyone will react the same way. It is a nerve stimulant, period and is the preferred method of killing the dogs that are used for consumption in Asian countries. They die of respiratory arrest with convulsions. Information obtained from Matulungin Publishing, Philippines.


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/11/2018 131 posts

Ok, did take the time to at least read your post Kt, I want to look further at the Mag citrate now as I didn't mention yet I already have a pacemaker for a condition I was diagnosed with in 97. A 3rd degree AV node block so I have to pay attention to all the info I can get on this stuff. I feel a bit shakey this a.m. but no heart palps. It makes me want to stop the mag citrate though and will do that for now and see how things go. ttys, Denise


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/11/2018 131 posts

couldn't find my post to edit, but my mag citrate is naturalist brand. I didn't like the looks of the ingredients with the vegetable stearate I think it said, ttyl;) denise


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/11/2018 131 posts

Ok, this will be short as I'm taking a gal-friend shopping today at 10;) but I did want to let you know I was reading your replies.

I have been on the B50 per another post I saw by Ted, he seems very knowledgable and want to try it as well. Just read another post yesterday about Riboflavin working for a guy that has Parkinsons. I don't think I've got that (B2) in my complex but I'll check. Cilantro I can do for sure, and haven't used much of that at all in the past, but will check it out as well. I'll give you the list of all I am taking. It's a lot of stuff, but I feel fine with no side effects like with the crud I was on for 2 weeks before I headed for EarthClinic;)

Started doing every one of these on 10/9/2018, but had used the Blackstrap and D3 a couple weeks earlier:

Blackstrap Mollases

VCO

ACV

All sups are Source Naturals Art:

Theanine Serene w/relora

Acetyl L-Carnitine

Alpha Lipoic Acid

B50

D3

Magnesium citrate.

Today I want to get the Riboflavin, and the Magtein if nothing I'm taking has those already. Comments/feedback welcome. I don't want to overdo it but as I said, I feel good, no ill effects.

This belongs elsewhere, but my spleen area (I haven't gotten to be diagnosed yet) feels uncomfy, but that's why I'm doing the Blackstrap, and Ginger tea I make from the root (real deal).

I read an article on too much water so I think my 6 of the 8 ounces are good enough, and I don't drink anything with my meals, smaller meals, more often is working ok. Denise


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/11/2018

Denise,

I agree so much with the recommended B-Complex. The McGraw Hill NA by John D. Kirschmann and Nutrition Search, Inc. is available on Amazon. A local health food store might carry it. That's where I got my first one.

I want to mention I never had any heart problems until I took the mag citrate liquid prep for the colonoscopies. It was only then, while sedated, I was diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat.

Awhile later after I heard a board certified neurosurgeon recommend mag citrate because it was more readily absorbed, I bought some and started taking it. I even informed a neighbor about it and he started taking it. I did not give my previous diagnosis a second thought. I was more interested in protecting my body & brain against the toxic effects of hidden MSG.

Some time after taking the mag citrate the neighbor and I both had frightening heart palpitations. Sometimes my heart "rumbled" frantically on & off. My PCP ordered a stress test and I was diagnosed with PVC (premature ventricular contractions).

After I spoke with my friends who had done research on "inactive ingredients" I was advised about the "citrate" and "citric acid" probably being processed from corn because it was cheaper.

In the production of ingredients, including amino acids, a manufactured glutamic acid is often created and is a nerve stimulant. In combination with others it can stimulate some nerve cells to death. My friends personally know the neurosurgeon who has written a book about the "excitotoxins" in our food and are mentioned in his book because he used some of their information.

It took awhile to get the effects out of my system after I stopped taking it. Just wanted to advise you that my friend, with a PhD., and her husband did a lot of research and investigation on alleged inactive ingredients in our supplements and medications. I continue to take the mag oxide several times a day with no problems. I feel they saved my life and even my marriage!

I must have provided something unacceptable because another post to you has been removed.

I feel it's important to note, not everyone can tolerate the same ingredients and because you are having a spleen disturbance I'd be cautious about combinations of ingredients you are taking.

KT


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/10/2018 131 posts

Art,

Oh Lord, I thought you said addictive but yes, it is an additive that the lady that wrote about her husband getting rid of his tremors. She is soazburrolady;)

Ok, I will go ahead and get it as well. I am going to take the other dose of Serene tonight as I only took one yesterday, and none at night. I think that it is helping Art! I wont write much tonight, and I dont see the previous post I thought I submitted correctly. I had asked you about the Magtein being addictive, LOL!!

Anyway, sure appreciate all the info from you and Kt;) I will write more tomorrow. I want to tell you both about my doctor visit today. All I'll say now, as I am pooped out again, but a good pooped out from being busy running around living life today;) So what I want to say is, I am glad I am doing all I can to manage my own health, because I had told her I had a feeling of swelling in my spleen, or that area anyway, and she had forgotten about it completely.

I told her no worries because Im doing better. I felt like saying that I was doing better on my own than with the care I was being given here (or lack thereof). I'm really not bitter, I feel kind of blessed to be encouraged to do what I can for myself;) Denise


General Feedback
Posted by Bill (Philippines) on 10/10/2018

Hi Denise...Here's what Ted from Bangkok says about tremors:

"A head tremors sometimes is a Bell's Palsy caused by certain viruses, or perhaps demyelination. Certain oils seems to cause problems in which case granulated lecithin, vitamin B complex may help. Antibiotics and certain meds may have caused it. Also heavy metals also shorts out and caused it too. Changing water source such as bottled water may help, and taking some chlorella supplements, every two days, plus daily magnesium citrate 250-500 mg a day, plus daily alkalization until both urine and saliva pH is 7, usually helped. I had other cases of tremors before, so it was the alkalization, metal chelation, and magnesium really did help. Although the person was a child and had leg tremors, but it's still a type of neurodegenerative conditions bough on by acidosis, heavy metals, and lack of magnesium. Vitamin B50, some vitamin C helps. It should be noted that most supplements ideally is taken only 4 or 5 days out of a week, but the chlorella and chelation remedies require more spacing between days. A milder form may be just a small amount of cilantro and taken every two days also does the job too. In a child it was only a couple of leaves of cilantro, but in an adult dose, they may take larger doses as per weight basis.

Ted"

Source: https://ted.earthclinic.com/cures/essential-tremor.html

I would also agree with Art -- you should take higher dose thiamine (500 mgs once a day with a meal). I would also take B50 Complex once a day as well because the B vitamins always tend to work better synergistically as a group rather than on their own.


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/10/2018 131 posts

Ok Kt and Art,

I am going to study your info as I need time to really read it, and read it well. Two things did stand out right away. I am interested in the Nutrition Almanac, very much so, and Art, I am wondering about the "addiction" you meant from the magtein? It is expensive, and when I saw the dose being 3 per day just like you said, I already decided I wasn't going to take the much right off the bat. Did you mean it would literally be addictive in a bad way, or a good way?

The Serene is making me just that, feel very relaxed and even felt my tremor was almost non existent when I got into bed last night. This a.m. I felt it was better than it had been in a long time, just slightly, but a noticeable difference, weird, but possible I guess;)

Again I'd like to answer both posts with deserving replies so I'll do that in the a.m. I think tomorrow;) Thank you both so much!! Denise

PS I am doing the Magnesium Citrate 100 mg, and the Magnesium in the Serene which I mention is 300. No issues at all with diahrea so far. I do eat meat and eggs, the best I can get;) Mostly fish and poultry though.


General Feedback
Posted by Art (California ) on 10/10/2018 1049 posts

Denise,

If the product you are taking is the one from Source Naturals, the ingredients seem like they should be very relaxing and good for ET. I believe that the magnesium l threonate (Mag-T / Magtein) will be additive. Most Mag-T products suggest that you take 3 or 4 capsules per day.

Myself, I take Mag-T and Magnesium Taurate along with mag oil applied topically for general health and specific heart and brain health.

One other that you can consider is high dose thiamine based on this:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29602891

They used intramuscular injections bi-weekly, but high oral daily dosing is likely to be effective also.

Here are two youtube videos associated with the study:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaIU3prQvg0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpmyDTOErEQ

Art


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/10/2018

Okay Denise...I am sorry I am so piecemeal. "Citrate" is processed from corn and corn has been genetically modified. Monsanto's patented gene had infiltrated corn around 1998. All produce has been affected and makes assimilation extremely difficult.

The video "Food, Inc." confirmed our food was being engineered to last longer so grass-fed, free range and organic are no longer healthier and are more expensive.

I questioned a free-range chicken farm about their eggs because I had horrible heartburn after eating just one large hard boiled egg. They also fed their chickens some specially blended grain from the Amish that contained GMO's. It wasn't the fault of the Amish. They thought they were doing what was right.

My husband and I had more ailments when we tried to convert one summer to the alleged healthier way of eating. We both had more weight gain (I try to stay under 100 lbs.), heartburn...indigestion...reflux (whatever you want to call it, it's from too many carbs in the diet), constipation, kidney pain and bladder leaks. I believe I have another post here on EC about that.

About water...too much water flushes out the water soluble vitamins. The Nutrition Almanac says minerals help maintain "the delicate water balance essential to the proper functioning of mental and physical processes. They keep blood and tissue fluids from becoming either too acid or too alkaline and permit other nutrients to pass into the bloodstream."

It is just my opinion that drinking too much water is as harmful as the "fat-free" era, during which a lot of gallbladders were removed. The gallbladder needs fat to contract. I have another post here on EC about that too.

KT


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/10/2018

Hi Denise,

I have to apologize for my piecemeal posts. My concern for you was stopping the tremors first and because they have gone on so long it may not be a quick fix so the reason for the large dose suggestion on an empty stomach just before a meal. I eat meat and eggs. Diarrhea isn't a problem for me but I think that could be easily resolved by taking turmeric or eating a banana. The Nutrition Almanac reports amino acids are found naturally along the intestinal wall and act as receptors for the minerals. Magnesium has to bind with protein for absorption. I assume that must be why I did not have diarrhea.

I started taking a 500 mg. tab of magnesium before each meal years ago after I started to have so much trouble with my neck and the doctor I saw for my head traumas sent me to two neck surgeons after an MRI on my neck. That started me looking into nutrition.

I had a hysterectomy in the early nineties and was advised I needed to take more calcium for my bones. I started to eat a lot of spinach for the calcium. Previously I had multiple head & neck injuries that really never bothered me until I rammed my head into the door frames of our vehicles by using the step to get into them three different times because I'm short. After eating a lot of spinach I started to have grinding and "popping" in my neck that frightened me because I felt like my head was going to detach from my neck.

The NA explains calcium will not produce hard teeth & bones unless enough magnesium is taken. Too much calcium can contribute to kidney stones or gallstones without magnesium. I had a kidney stone so large it ripped one of my ureters.

Vitamin C is also important but getting C from orange juice has too many carbs. Too many carbs cause indigestion and that would take me into a whole different conversation. I saw a post by a doctor who went on a low carb diet just to lose weight and observed he no longer had indigestion. There is another post on EC about the summer my husband and I went on the free-range, organic meat and eggs and all the trouble we had. GMO's have infiltrated our food supply and cannot be avoided just due to wind and bird droppings.

I think it would be good for you to obtain a Nutrition Almanac. Everyone is different and you need to find what will work for you. I saw a report on the news that many are deficient in magnesium and getting it naturally is difficult so supplements are necessary.

There is so much more I'd like to share but with an ill husband my time is really limited and he does not like seeing me sit here so long. I can post this now because he was admitted yesterday to start his second infusion therapy.

I'll mention lemons are a good source of vit C and I just found an excellent report on lemon water and digestion but I am not sure about providing a link here, now. I think you can Google "benefits of lemon water" to get the report. I'll look into it after I submit this post and amend if necessary.

KT


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/09/2018 131 posts

Ok, Kt, I read all of your post, thank you so much. I am a little confused about what type of Magnesium is best so I have Magnesium Citrate and I am just taking 100mg a day right not, no diarrhea issues but I realize that must be a pretty low dosage. I am 5'2" and and 136 lbs, 65 years old and exercise (walking) at least 3 times a week, sometimes more, sometimes less. Lot's of water, and watch my foods and that really started about 10 years ago.

I have acid reflux so that really started me eliminating foods, and I have the acid reflux under control. The "silent reflux" is also wayyy better but not completely gone.

Ok, so I missed one of the sups that a lady here on the thread mentions (soazburrolady) that has worked wonders for her husbands ET's. I thought I had everything but I need to also get Magnesium L-Threonine?? I need to research that though as it's another Magnesium. I am also getting Magnesium in the Theanine Serena, with Relora so I have to check these things out. For now, until I find out more from you and Art, or on my own "surfing" the web, I'll take these, as long as I don't have any adverse side effects;) Denise


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/09/2018 131 posts

Hello Art,

I read a post from 2014 that Mag. Glycinate is best for not causing diarrhea? Also, right now I have added to my 100 mg a day of Mag. Citrate, the Magnesium that is in the Theanine Serene w/relora (and it is 300mg)?? It doesn't say what type of Mag. it is except it does say "as Magnesium Amino Acid complex". What do you think? I only started the latter today, just got it in the mail.

Thank you for all your help, but I know my body is only a testing ground for these things, but I am willing to try, with baby-steps, rather than take drugs right off the bat. Denise, Crescent City, CA


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Calfornia) on 10/09/2018 131 posts

Hey KT and Art,

I just saw these replies and I think you guys are talking to me!! This is great, and first off, I can take magnesium citrate, and usually just 100 mg in the a.m. I don't know if I could increase that without the "other" issue though. I can try going up slowly.

I've also gotten the Theanine Serene w/relora and Acetyl L-carnitine and taking that. I'm only taking 1 of each though (TSwR tells you 2 a day is the dosage). Baby steps here;) I have so many issues, I'm all over this site. But I just can't stomach (literally)the drugs doctors want me to take. Not without at least trying natural remedies.

I need to go back and re-read each of your posts more thoroughly now, but wanted to get this posted in hopes you are still getting alerts;) Denise


Dietary Changes
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/09/2018 131 posts

Diane, I can't remember if I sent you a note before, I find it hard to understand the "layout" of this "forum".

I read somewhere here in the ET area about Theanine Serene w/Relora, and Acetyl L-Carnitine. I have several issues though so I have to make a diary on all I am trying now. These 2 things are the ones I got for ET, pretty sure. If you're still around, I'll keep you posted on how it goes. Denise


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by John S. (Suffolk, England) on 10/07/2018

Hi Soazburrolady: Many thanks for your good wishes. Hopefully I can pull away from the despairing life and into a better one away from social 'security'. Funding my meds means moving. Having had an offer on my house and finding one cheaper, with luck, will mean a new life -- not another one! -- and money in the bank. Enough for me to look after myself for a change and recuperate properly. I don't honestly think that the people that make the rules realise just how frustrating tremors are, more especially how, when you're dealing with that on top of Aspergers and Ichthyosis. I feel like the family dumping ground for confidence disenablement. Is that a good thing to have on your resume? The one stability in my life was my art. That was mine and no thing could take that away. Well, I reckoned without ETs. All we can do is continue the battle.


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/06/2018

Art,

Yes, thanks for clearing that up!! I am lucky it doesn't do that for me although the mag citrate is what caused me to have frightening palpitations and to be diagnosed with PVC. It is also what is used for a colonoscopy prep. I posted what happened to me somewhere else here on EC awhile back. I think under the A Fib thread.

I am able to tolerate magnesium oxide well in powder form and tablet. I also eat complete protein with each meal as advised in the Nutrition Almanac.

Personally I feel complete protein can only be animal protein because B12 is only found naturally in animal protein. I could not survive without meat and eggs.

Kt


General Feedback
Posted by Art (California ) on 10/05/2018 1049 posts

It should be noted that some people will not be able to take 500 mg of magnesium on an empty stomach without getting diarrhea. This may be even more of a problem with some forms of magnesium of which there are now easily more than fifteen different types. Two of the worst forms for diarrhea are magnesium citrate and magnesium oxide but other forms can cause diarrhea when taken at 500 mg on an empty stomach. I say this from experience in myself and others.

Art


General Feedback
Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/05/2018

The Nutrition Almanac declares a mineral deficiency often results in illness.

Try taking 500 mg. magnesium on an empty stomach first thing in the morning at least 15 min. before you eat breakfast and then with your meals, making sure you get complete protein with each meal. Amino acids are found naturally along the intestinal wall and act as receptors for minerals. Minerals have to bind with amino acids for absorption. (Nutrition Almanac)

Our entire food supply has been tainted for decades and I believe that could be contributing to the tremors. Hidden sources of MSG are nerve stimulants. There are voluminous hidden sources of MSG in our food supply. I noticed a post to avoid aspartame. Aspartame and MSG have a similar chemical make up. CBN has done several news briefs on both.

Magnesium and vit. C are reported to offer some protection against nerve stimulants in our food. Ginger is calming for me and fights cancer.

I haven't had physical tremors but have had over stimulating brain activity due to stimulants in our food compounded by traumatic brain injuries and used to have a spit-fire temper. I also had IBS, degenerative disc disease and arthritis diagnosed. Magnesium, vit. C and ginger have been tremendous help for me in addition to avoiding the above mentioned.

I had to change my diet piecemeal, by the process of elimination for over two decades to start healing. I am now 70 and only have trouble with adhesions from multiple surgeries years ago and a severed lining to my G.I. tract. My PCP said that will never heal and his nurse said as long as I can evacuate I should be okay.

If I don't get enough magnesium first in the morning I will have arthritis aches, which is really inflammation from nerve stimulants...could have been from something I ate the day before. Turmeric and ginger reduce inflammation and are both reported to fight cancer.

There is no one-size-fits-all but I hope some of this information will help you. It's taken me a long time to learn how our food supply is making us sick but I have also learned how it can be used to help us get well.

KT


Magtein, Theanine
Posted by Roma (Mn) on 10/04/2018
4 out of 5 stars

It's been a little more than a year since my last post and I'm still striving towards eliminating ET. I'm following recommended supplements - Theanine Serene & Magtein. Theanine Serene is so potent, I can only take half a pill before bedtime which knocks me out for the night.

Magtein, I only take 1 capsule during the day, it makes me really tired.

I'm now going to order Acetyl L Carnitine - I've been hesitant due to some of the reviews and concerned about possible jittery reaction. Henceforth, I'm hoping for positive results to share in my next post.


General Feedback
Posted by Denise (Crescent City, Ca) on 10/04/2018 131 posts

I have dealt with the tremors since 1988 when they really started effecting my head, but had started in my hands. My head shakes so bad now that I sometimes have a hard time brushing my teeth, eating, and I cannot put on any eye-makeup (vanity I know). Also, I notice it gets worse when I pull up next to another car and I think people are looking so I shake all the worse.

My hands are pretty bad as I cant write well at all, and when typing, or carrying a drink I sometimes start shaking just uncontrollably so I have to set the drink down. With tea or hot coffee this is no fun Im sure some of you know. I wont go on about it, but I am grateful to see all the info I can gather from others who suffer from this sometimes debilitating nerve disorder. Im assuming that is what mine is anyway.

So no meds for anything, I am 65, eat a nutritionally as possible, drink lots of water, take atleast a 2 mile walk 3 or 4 times a week, and do free-weights for strength training. None of which has helped my tremor so I am thinking deficiency.

So my plan of action to start (because now, after reading here, Ive decided I dont just have to accept this condition without trying something natural) with, will be from a post I read here. I ordered the supplements which one contains Acetyl L-Carnitine, and the other I ordered is a combination of Gaba, theanine serene, relora, and L-theanine.

It sure isnt going to hurt to try these things that are working for a few other people on this thread. I have a clean enough system that I will know if something isnt good for me, so I will take baby-steps and see how it goes. This thread is so big that I just plan to keep reading and especially want to understand more about a gluten free diet. I thought that was only for folks with celiac disease but if its helping others, than it would be worth trying as well.

Enough for now, and I am just grateful for all the folks that get on here and share because you all have given me some hope that I may not have to just live with this. Thank you all, Denise

PS I will be back after I have gotten my order on the 8th of this month, and started my supplements:)


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by Soazburrolady (Southern Az) on 10/01/2018

Hi John.

So sorry I missed seeing your post any earlier. I can't tell you how pleased I am to hear of your progress. I have been helped so many times by the contributors to Earth Clinic, I have lost count! Someday, I am going to post my personal "Best Of" Earth Clinic. I wish you continued progress and good health. Maybe, someday, you will post some of your art work!


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by John S. (Suffolk, England) on 09/27/2018

Hi Soazburrolady:

Just a quick update. The hands, although the strength, pre-tremors, has not returned yet, probably through lack of normal use, the control has mostly returned. I have not tried brush drawing again yet, however, I am able to complete pencil sketches, which is something I have not been able to accomplish in a long while.

All I can say is many, many heartfelt thanks for your posts on the maintenance regimen, which, has paid off, for myself, for the second, and now third time. That seems to be the clincher! Although I am now taking the Acetyl-L-Carnitine as part of a broader multi-supplement, with Arginine, etc, ( Good Guru's Memory and Focus ) with the Theanine Serene with Relora and Magnesium Threonate, the first and latter supplied by British companies, the latter being Phoenix, my initial tryouts with the Source Naturals recommendation were equally successful. Being UK based informed my decision, it being helpful that only one of the supplements be imported. Hopefully I can now continue taking these and nothing else stupid will happen to prevent me taking up my career again!


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, MSM
Posted by John S. (Suffolk, England) on 09/27/2018

Hi Soazburrolady:

Just a quick update. The hands, although the strength, pre-tremors, has not returned yet, probably through lack of normal use, the control has mostly returned. I have not tried brush drawing again yet, however, I am able to complete pencil sketches, which is something I have not been able to accomplish in a long while.

All I can say is many, many heartfelt thanks for your posts on the maintenance regimen, which, has paid off, for myself, for the second, and now third time. That seems to be the clincher! Although I am now taking the Acetyl-L-Carnitine as part of a broader multi-supplement, with Arginine, etc, ( Good Guru's Memory and Focus ) with the Theanine Serene with Relora and Magnesium Threonate, the first and latter supplied by British companies, the latter being Phoenix, my initial tryouts with the Source Naturals recommendation were equally successful. Being UK based informed my decision, it being helpful that only one of the supplements be imported. Hopefully I can now continue taking these and nothing else stupid will happen to prevent me taking up my career again!


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by John S. (Suffolk, England) on 09/22/2018

Anna,

Of course, it is best to get as natural as possible. That said, nature has left us with predicaments from our ancient past. We would have to be consuming fruit and vegetables at a continual rate to meet our basic needs for a mammal our size and debates rage as to how we can sustain our individual need for the stuff. It has been labelled humankind's "missing stress molecule". Studies for people with Aspergers, where there are abnormal spikes of amygdala activity, put the need, at least, 8 grams daily. I would say though that most humans undergo more continual, relentless stresses than most creatures alive simply through our type of sentience and the lives we put upon ourselves. Reason why we wear out so often? BTW: Had a bowl of porridge and, quite quickly actually, my tremor went bonkers! Very interesting. Now; to labelling. Look for, I should say, 'Wildcrafted' and 'Organic', preferably the former being included. I think there is 'Good Manufacturing Practice' that you look for in America(?) which could also be your guide. Not sure about 'pure' vitamin c, as it might not be utilised efficaciously to be of the health value we are looking for. I think arguments carry on as to if just ascorbate has all that is necessary for all the repairs required upon it in the body. I think we could all do with a repair manual issued at birth. One day perhaps?


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by Anna (Yosemite) on 09/21/2018

Hi John:

When you reference Vit C - did you read that post about synthetic v natural? Any thoughts? I bought mine at the local health food store, but never knew that they might be synthetic? Where do I get natural and how is it labeled?


Acupuncture
Posted by Anna (Yosemite) on 09/21/2018
4 out of 5 stars

Worked Temporarily

Thanks RSW:

I am a great believer in acupuncture. I have noticed that the tremors stop when I go for acupuncture, but then return later - at the first sign of stress or conflict.


Acupuncture
Posted by Rsw (Oh) on 09/19/2018
5 out of 5 stars

Hi John,

I have been reading your posts and believe this may be of interest. A friend has a family history of tremors in the head and arms, and went to a Traditional Chinese accupuncturist for an extended period. It has now been a year and a half that she has been free of the tremors. I have been going to the same accupunturist, independently before I talked to this person, and I have heard many people in the office talk of surgeons who developed temors and could no longer practice medicine, become healed by this Traditional Chinese acupuncturist and can once again operate on patients. This may give you and others with this problem something else to consider. Best wishes.

Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by John S. (Suffolk, England) on 09/19/2018

Hi Anna: That's interesting about the celery juice. Good source, again, of Magnesium and also Potassium and Sodium. Maybe I should add it. I used to combine juices a lot. As for the slow and steady, that's me alright. "Slow and methodical": that's how they described me in my school reports fifty years ago. Like Endeavour Morse, I stumble over a clue, think "hang on, there was something there wasn't there! ", go back, trip over it again and think, "that worked, what if I do it again?". So far, what I am doing seems to be working. I don't seem to need so much meditation at the moment which is interesting. We must beware of anutrients, I feel. They can cause havoc. My tremors are inherited through my mother's side. She never had any! My uncle and grandmother did, however. Magnesium deficiency is one of the most common. I am sure C is another, simply because of the mass call on it throughout the body. The RDA is ridiculous. A mammal the size of a mountain goat bi-synthesises 13-14 grams of the stuff to cope with it's stresses in life via an enzymatic process in it's liver and humans, who have lost the means to do so, with more stressors than a goat, is only recommended 60 mg!!? With all the repairs it is needed to do? Come on. Pull the other one! That's my rant over. BTW: My, that was an expensive bath. However, many discoveries are made through accident.


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by Anna (Yosemite) on 09/18/2018

John:

Thank you and I am learning a lot from your posts around the language of these tremors. Your progress is impressive - and 18 days is a blink really in the bigger scheme of things. I looked up "Soazburrolady" and will copy her posts into my notes for future research and study.

A couple of my family have the tremors - milder versions than mine. I only ever found raw celery as a cure for the shaking, but couldn't eat enough to make a dent, so celery juice has helped a bit in the past. However, any stress or conflict and my shaking is uncontrollable. Now that I am retired, life is much easier.

Funny thing, I ordered the two pound container of pharmacy grade magnesium as part of my 'anti candida' protocol and planned to use a little in a bath and the rest ingested. Well, I opened the canister over the path and ended up dropping the whole thing in the water - 2 lbs of magnesium -$20.00 - most expensive bath I ever took - but here is the thing - it was sublime. I soaked until I was totally pruned and had absorbed my twenty buck ten times over - and I felt incredible, renewed and vitalized. I slept wonderfully well for the next few nights and overall, my tremors seemed much less. Mine are in my face and a bit in my hands, but definitely the magnesium is a curative for me.

I very much like your research approach to all the supplements, slow and steady. I have made a list of the ones you mention, and will read up on them and then search for 'best-buys' so I can begin to acquire the ones you suggest. I only began the candida treatment 4 weeks ago, so will probably focus in on the candida protocols before I get too focused on the tremors, however, there seems to be some overlap in the treatment, so will combine where I can. I am amazed at the results so far, and beyond grateful to Earth Clinic website. So much to learn.

So, now, when my finances allow, I will reorder, but it confirms - my body is starved for magnesium. Thank you again for your most generous sharing, it is very heartening to hear your progress and I am creating my learning list for moving forward.


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by John S. (Suffolk, England) on 09/18/2018

Sorry Anna, for your name wrongly spelt in the last posting: To give you some idea of the time frame. Eighteen days past and I could shave reasonably with my right hand, couldn't draw, could only write by steadying the top of a pencil with my left hand. This weekend, I have found that I can draw for short periods and write one-handed a little. Hand shakes a bit if I get too enthusiastic, upper arm shakes, but still controllable to a point, then I give it a rest. Whole body still trembles if exercising, then stop. It's as if shivering. No body shaking if at rest. Increased four days ago to 2 grams Magnesium L-Threonate daily. Still on 1 tablet of Theanine Serene with Relora, I capsule of Good Guru 'Good Mind and Memory'. Note: the last is an extremely broad supplement, this is the one containing both Arginine and Acetyl-L-Carnitine. Also contains Gingko Biloba and Brahmi plus vits and minerals. Always best to check the RDA and ascertain if you need that much, plus any effects of long term usage. I hope this may be of some use.


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by John S. (Suffolk, England) on 09/17/2018

Hello Anne:

I basically follow Soazburrolady's recommendation as to supplements and dosage. Since I live in the UK, I've tried to find local suppliers regarding the Magnesium L-Threonate and the Acetyl-L-Carnitine. Source Naturals products, the 'Theanine Serene with Relora', where I am, has to be imported by the distributor. I purchase from IHerbs. I am sure there are others. It is best to look around for the best deals on the magnesium and carnitine. 'Now' seems good brand.

One must be aware that improvements will take time. The longer the problem has existed, the longer it will take for the tremors to be managed. I had to break from treatment because of money problems. The tremors came back, and, when I was able to resume, it has taken longer to regain control. The goal, unfortunately and annoyingly, is management of the tremors by continual supplementation. It is best to read up all you can on the individual ingredients of the supplements and, if you are already on any medication, that there are no contraindications between the supplements and your meds. For example Magnesium has a tendency to lower blood pressure. If you are on meds for blood pressure, watch that your pressure doesn't get too low! One must watch these points you know! Relora has been reported by some users as giving them vivid dreams. Depends which sort of dreams. Best thing, as always, be aware and double-check with a pharmacist or your doctor regarding blood pressure or if you are on blood-thinning medication.


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by Anna (Yosemite) on 09/15/2018

Hi John:

Your post references Magnesium L-Threonate for Essential Tremors

and I would be very interested to learn more. I have had essential tremors for 20 plus years and would be enormously grateful for any suggestions on how to tackle the problem, i.e. specific supplement combinations/dosage/frequency etc.


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by John S. (Suffolk, England) on 09/13/2018

Hi Soazburrolady: I've found a supplement from 'The Good Guru' company which combines what I've been looking for. Hopefully it will work. It's 'Good Memory And Focus', which I am going to combine with the Magnesium L-Threonate and the Theanine Serene with Relora. The GMAF supplement contains both the Arginine and Acetyl-L Carnitine. Will keep on topped up with the Mag Citrate. So far, it's the forefinger of the right hand that wants to twist it's way uncooperatively and, of course, that's my drawing hand. I live on in hope the thing will behave itself. At least finding the combination cuts down the pill bottles.


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by John S. (Suffolk, England) on 09/02/2018

Hi Soazburrolady: Thanks. Had read up on the Arginine and noted the shingles connection, which, fortunately I haven't. Was taking it to improve the healing of my Ichthyosis skin, noticed the improvement in the tremor, thought interesting. At the same time was investigating the tremor miracle product and noted the ingredients, one of which, Arginine. My writing is steadier briefly, but, still a nuisance. Will persist. Many thanks for your original post. Just managed to send for some remedy skin cream from the states. Can't get anything as good in UK. Ridiculous. Human race extremely frustrating at sharing good data. Mostly seems only good at squabbling.


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by Soazburrady (Southern Az) on 09/01/2018

Hi John,

Good to hear from you again, especially since it appears you have found the right combination for your tremors. My husband continues to be tremor free, and takes the same supplements I have listed in the past (won't bore everyone by repeating them). The arginine could be problematic for him as he as a history of herpes zoster (shingles), and arginine has been known to exacerbate or even initiate a breakout. Continued good health to you!


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by John (Suffolk, England) on 08/30/2018

Hello Soazburrolady: Just a quick return to say that my tremor has almost completely abated since I added Arginine to my regimen. So, now it's Magtein, MSM, Perfectil: Skin, Hair and Nails, Theanine Serene and the Arginine. That seems to be shifting the so and so. I may drop the Arginine in favour of Acetyl-L-Carnitine again after I've finished the course. I also belt up some Mag Citrate with some veg and fruit in a Mega blender to top up. Seems to be working so far.


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by John S. (Suffolk, England) on 08/22/2018

Soazburrolady: Can I ask of your husband, with the nature of his tremor, say was he able to at least hold his hands still, were the nerves beneath the skin at the thenar and hypothenar region twitching like mad, trying to get the tremor going again? At the moment I can hold them still, to the extent that there is little involuntary movement, as long as I've been inactive and calm. Resting on my elbows, the shoulders and back of the neck have a 'shivering' movement, the same as if I was cold. This I've noticed if I've been active, fatigued, and it travels down to my legs so that I feel like a walking quake. Nothing is visible when I am sitting, at rest, except at those regions of the hand. It is frustrating that, as soon as I attempt the writing and drawing, the tremor manifests in the interrupted movement. My GP noticed it after I pointed it out. The DWP "can't see it" as they said in their written report, "he wasn't trembling".

This convinces me they are looking for a Parkinson's type of trembling and are not familiar with ETs at all. They consider it irrelevant because it is not outstandingly evident. Will have to persevere in finding a management regimen that will allow me to follow the career within which, like your husband, I have expertise.


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by John (Suffolk, England) on 08/21/2018

Soazburrolady: Thanks for that. The social security on my case again, actually thinking I am self-diagnosed and nothing wrong. I have been assessed for Aspergers positively as well. Doing everyday stuff is tiring with the tremor, but, being aware of how Aspergers elevates stress levels anyway, on top of the years of caring I had to do, it is no wonder that I feel like a spent battery. I was interested in the other product, not sure as to follow it up as £50 for 30 days. Desperately need to shut down the shaky hands and get my career back. May just have to renew the supply of the original tablets. Sorry for the delay in responding. Bad couple of weeks.


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by Soazburrolady (Southern Az) on 08/06/2018

Hi John,

I'm just assuming that you are directing your question to me. If so, the answer is - yes. My husband takes the Theanine Serene, Magtein, and Acetyl - L - Carnitine every morning. Still working, thankfully. I think I mentioned that I had started experiencing some symptoms of peripheral neuropathy, and so added Alpha Lipoic Acid to my regimen (also benfotiamine). While reading about the ALA, I noticed that it can also be effective for Essential Tremor, so he is taking that also.

Always wishing you well,

Soazburrolady


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by John (Suffolk, England) on 08/05/2018

Hello. Can I just ask, is your husband still tremor free? Also, I was wondering about a product called 'Tremormiracle', and, whether any sufferers of ET have found relief with this product? I am of the school of thought that, if something seems too good to be true, it usually is. I am interested in the inclusion of L-arginine in the product. I would like to reduce the number of supplements, basically to de-clutter, however, I do not want the tremor to worsen.


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, MSM
Posted by John (Suffolk, England) on 07/27/2018

Have been trying sourdough bread for a while, as well as the supplements. It's been difficult. Although some control of my hands has returned, the tendency towards tremor has remained. 'Normal' use of hands, no real problem, but, if I try anything delicate, like drawing, writing, painting, the tremor persists. I have been unable to make as regular use of the Magtein, etc, as I would like. This is simply because there is no recognition that the tremor is a problem to be taken that seriously by the DWP. Basically, it appears, if you run out, then you run out. Why aren't you getting work? Because I don't want to tell clients I can handle work in the field of illustration, when, obviously I can't complete a project because of the tremor. Your hands aren't shaking. ( demonstrates) Oh, they are shaking! At this point, I am tempted to start swearing. All I can do is build up a back supply until the damn things get under control.

This second attempt at complete control is that harder and probably because of the break in supplementation. I hope your husband still has maintained control. Recently diagnosed as Aspergers. My assessor has said that, obviously, because of the Aspergers' trait of the need of structure, my art being the structure of my life, it is vital to my mental health that it be reestablished. He has written to my doctor to that effect. However, I know full well that the option to be offered on the NHS would be Beta-blockers! Certainly not supplements.


Dietary Changes
Posted by Be (Uk) on 04/14/2018

Hi DIane,

I have some sort of internal tremors going on for past 10 years, not diagnosed as it doesnt feel anything serious as none of the research added up to anything but stress related. A few weeks ago it felt like it was getting bad as became tiring and was going to go to doctor for tests however a consultation with my Ayurvedic practitoner advised me to take a tsp of scullcap 2x a day. I have been taking it for 4 days now and symptoms go when I take it. Still looking at other things. Also reflux is due to low Acid in stomach ( not high) - there is not enough acid in stomach to keep flaps closed - Avogel have a product to help that though there are remedies on this site too. Re distonia I would be tempted to try CDB oil.

I hope that helps.


Dietary Changes
Posted by Diane (Bowling Green, Ky) on 03/19/2018

I have essential tremor as well. Have not had any luck with anything I have tried so far. I am on a ketogenic diet. While I love the other benefits of this diet, unfortunately, for me, no reduction in tremors. I do plan of trying essential oils next. I've read some encouraging things about them. Also, maybe the supplement skullcap if the EO's don't work. Fingers crossed on the oils, tho!


General Feedback
Posted by Christine (British Columbia) on 03/15/2018 5 posts

I continue to use Theanine Serene 2/day, one with breakfast and one at supper.

The Theanine Serene with Relora, along with Magtein and additional Magnesium absolutely helps with tremors.

I am also taking CBD oil and will be taking Ashwaganda, as well.

I feel that you need to take a combination of calming supplements and adhere to a healthy diet. I will actually steer towards a more keto diet to see it it makes any difference. Definitely, if I ever ingest refined carbs, I do see increased tremors. Diet does make a huge difference.

Not one supplement alone will do the trick. I am seeing that a combination of calming and neuro effective supplements are needed.


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by Soazburrolady (Southern Az) on 12/31/2017

Hi Soni,

I have used both IHerb and Lucky Vitamins to purchase the products you would like to get for your father.

Theanine Serene is by Source Naturals - I buy the one that has the additional ingredient of Relora.

Magtein is the brand name of Now Vitamin's Magnesium L Threonate. There are other brands, this is just the one I normally choose.

Acetyl - L - Carnitine is also a Now Product, although there are many other reputable brands.

Hope that helps.


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by Soni (India) on 12/30/2017

Hi,

I am new to post. sorry to ask, I would like to buy Theanine Serene, Magtein and Aceytl-L-Carnitine, can I please know website link?

I tried searching through iHerb but not sure which one to choose. I would like to try for my Dad. Thanks very much.

Soni


Riboflavin (Vitamin B2)
Posted by Jo (Texas) on 12/24/2017
4 out of 5 stars

Essential Tremors:

My husband can tell when he runs out of Riboflavin in his supplement container. I've been giving him 400mg daily in 2 divided doses as suggested by a member of a FB group on ET. This is the only thing so far that he has been able to notice an improvement.


Dietary Changes
Posted by Roma (Minnesota) on 11/25/2017

Arlene B., sorry for delayed response. I did not experience any reduction in tremors from acupuncture. However, it was very relaxing.


Dietary Changes
Posted by Denise (California) on 11/25/2017 131 posts

Is anyone still discussing on this thread? I am so desperate to talk with people who either experience some of the same issues, but are finding help through dietary, or home remedy. I just can't go with conventional medicine on the things I'm dealing with, especially these, two things:

Essential Tremor

Cervical Dystonia

oh, and not to forget the Acid Reflus/Silent Reflux (LPR) which is now almost 100% better just from leaving out some foods (at least I suspect that is why it's better, plus the fact I don't eat after 7pm.

I'm around if anyone wants to wants to talk, Denise


Dietary Changes
Posted by Dave (Lubbock) on 11/08/2017

I have bouts of gout and haven't noticed any worsening of gout from eating a strict keto diet.


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by Soazburrolady (Arizona) on 10/28/2017

Hi Marc,

I just saw your post and wanted to chime in. For my husband, it took a few weeks to really notice a lessening of the tremors, and possibly a little longer for them to resolve completely. He also takes Acetyl-L-Carnitine for same. On a side note, I started experiencing some peripheral neuropathy recently and added Alpha Lipoic Acid to my rather extensive (and expensive! ) handful of supplements. Since it is known for its beneficial effects on all things nerve related, he's been taking that too.

My husband had only presented with the symptoms of essential tremor a few months prior to instituting the supplements, so perhaps it takes a bit longer for them to take effect when the condition has existed for a good deal longer? Wishing you all the best.


Magnesium L-Threonate
Posted by M (Boston ) on 10/27/2017
3 out of 5 stars

Hello,

My name is Marc and I have had essential tremors for about 20 yrs I'm now 46 . It started with my right hand and now recently my left. I cannot write anymore or even hold a glass of water. So yes its very challenging at times. I'm hopeful it find relief with magtein and theanine serene w relora. Been taking 2 capsules of each per day. Been about a week and have seen no improvement yet. My question how long should it take to see a difference? Thanks

Dietary Changes
Posted by Ted M. (Lubbock, Tx) on 10/22/2017

!! WARNING!! Low Carb diets are known to help reduce weight, and according to this post, Tremors, BUT DO NOT USE THIS DIET IF YOU HAVE GOUT!!!


Gluten-Free Diet
Posted by Christi (Newkirk, Oklahoma) on 09/21/2017

Please consider that flour has BROMINE in it which most of the wheat products don't tell you about. There is a flour product that doesn't have bromine in it if you want to make your own food.


Magnesium
Posted by Lou Ann (Summerville, Sc ) on 09/20/2017

I know this is a older post, but I have same thing is it still working?


Dietary Changes
Posted by Lauren (Reno) on 09/02/2017

Thank you! I am well aware of the brain-gut relationship and have made huge strides in the direction of cleaning up my dietary act (gave up sugar and all processed flours and lost 60 pounds! ) but never thought about going the extra distance into Keto land for tremor health. It is SO annoying and embarrassing and has gone from "how do I ignore this?" To "how the heck do I get rid of this?"

Has anyone here tried CBD oil?


Dietary Changes
Posted by Arlene B (California) on 08/20/2017

Roma, have you had any reduction in tremors while using acupuncture? Anyone else try this?


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, MSM
Posted by John (Suffolk, England) on 08/17/2017

Interesting to read that Acetyl-L-Carnitine, or ALCAR, "improves the neural network by strengthening nerves and signal receptors": Quote from site, 'Braintropic' on the subject.

and that it also improves memory and learning function. Could explain the mass of writing I undertook and completed whilst on the supplement in 2006! That was well before the tremors took hold and I have not had Acetyl-L-Carnitine as a regular supplement since. Hmm. Will investigate further. Thanks for the boost in that direction. That's why these discussions are so valuable.


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, MSM
Posted by Soazburrolady (Southern Az) on 08/02/2017

Hi Roma,

Yes, it is Acetyl-L-Carnitine. He's been using it now about 3 years - along with the other supplements I mentioned. All the best to you.


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, MSM
Posted by Roma (Osseo, Mn) on 08/01/2017

Acetyl-L-Carnitine develops a high level of energy which would aggravate ES symptoms. Are you sure this is the correct name of supplement?


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, MSM
Posted by Soazburrolady (Southern Az) on 08/01/2017

Hi Pamg,

I noticed your post to John and just wanted to add that that it is Acetyl-L-Carnitine and not L-Carnitine that my husband has been using. Not sure of the exact chemical difference, but I know that the Aceytl-L-Carnitine is apparently able to cross the blood/brain barrier (as is magtein), and that is the key to its effectiveness. Those supplements - plus the Theanine Serene, continue to work for him (thankfully). Indeed, they are expensive, but the alternative stinks too! All the best.


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, MSM
Posted by John (Suffolk, England) on 08/01/2017

Pamg. Sorry; I am not aware of ALA. You may be aware that MSM - methylsulfonylmethane - is a nutritional sulphur and maybe you should check with a physician to make sure. MSM is said to increase respiration in the body's cells to allow the better passage of nutrients in and waste out.

This increased efficiency sounds as though, although my information is theoretical without further checks, that if it facilitates the absorbtion of ANY 'nutrients', it may also increase also the efficacy of any medications you may be on. If that is the case, it may be wise to double check. A lady on YouTube states that she took MSM and then went for a night out, drinking her usual tolerance level, but ending up being carted to hospital blind drunk and stayed that way for another day. My advice would be wary until the necessary questions have been answered. That said, I do take MSM on a regular basis, a sensible balanced diet and avoid alcohol.

Also the other supplements I stated. I had Carnitine some years ago and had considered taking it again, but seem to have got away without as far as tremors are concerned. I am not under any doctor's medication, so none of those interactions are my concern, however, not knowing any further as to your regimen, reiterate caution until your research is complete.


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, MSM
Posted by Pamg (South Dakota, Usa) on 07/31/2017

John,

I noticed you mentioned the use of MSM in an early post -I'm wondering if you're STILL taking it or not. I am 61 years young and my tremors are increasing. I already take ALA but not with L-carnitine (will switch to a product that combines both) and taking Magtein as well - tried taking it later in the day and my sleep was horrible! So will continue to take it first thing in the morning.


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Carol (Grants Pass, Oregon) on 07/13/2017

I am 74 have had ETs for about 5 or 6 yrs now. Started in my hand then left and went to my head. Wasn't too bad to start but has gotten worse over time. Had a MRI of my brain when this first started Dr said it was ETs nothing else wrong. I think my mom may have had this too but not absolutely sure. Have taken Tremadone for about 3 years but not regularly 2 per day and not every day, so can't give a response for it's benefits but will try to take as told and stay away from coffee and other caffeine which really makes it worse


Dietary Changes
Posted by Roma (Minnesota) on 06/14/2017

My acupuncturist just recommended this diet to me this week. Thanks for sharing!


General Feedback
Posted by Christine (Sicamous, Bc) on 05/24/2017 5 posts

Tremadone did not work for me at all. I tried it for 6 months.


General Feedback
Posted by Cindy (Pennsylvania) on 05/20/2017

Thanks. I will look into it.


General Feedback
Posted by Charity (Faithville, Usa) on 05/11/2017

You might like John Bergman you tube videos on neck alignment that can cause tremors if it is pinching off the nerve supply. Love the guy.... learned so much!


General Feedback
Posted by Clickrs (Warminster) on 05/11/2017

Unfortunately, Theanine Serene with Relora and Magtein have not helped with my head tremors. I have been taking them since August 2016. So I am going to try the high doses of Riboflavin/B2. Hope that helps, my doctor keeps pushing inderol, but when I did use that many years ago after 6 months I had to increase it so decided to find a natural way. Wish me luck I am also looking at CBD Oils, will try the Riboflavin 1st.


Magnesium L-Threonate, Theanine, MSM
Posted by John (Suffolk, England) on 05/11/2017

Have just managed to purchase some more of the theanine. Hopefully, now, I can return to the full supplementation that worked before and I can re-establish twitchless fingers. DWP seem too stupid to realize that reducing payments DOES NOT HELP but actually hinders recovery or alleviation of troublesome symptoms and that such things need constant maintenance. They need to know why I haven't found work in my chosen field and seem oblivious to cause and effect in such matters. The tremor needs to be sorted out first! Common sense would seem to indicate that alone. How ludicrous can you get?



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