Alternative Treatment for Lung Cancer

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Treating lung cancer with alternative treatments is often an effective complementary therapy alongside traditional Western medical approaches of radiation and chemotherapy. In fact, a 2007 study by the American College of Chest Physicians found alternative treatments helpful in treating the symptoms of lung cancer. Specifically, one of the most popular complementary therapies for lung cancer treatment is regular acupuncture sessions to treat cancer symptoms such as pain and nausea. Other alternative treatments deemed helpful include massage, meditation, and yoga. These treatments provided relief of pain, nausea, anxiety, and fatigue.

Complementary Treatment for Lung Cancer

Alternative Treatments for Lung Cancer can be found on Earth Clinic ranging from herbs, to high doses of multiple supplements, and to more unique therapies like hydrogen peroxide inhalation. Read our extensive remedy feedback section beginning below to find out what remedies have been providing relief to those with lung cancer.

Complementary Therapies and Integrative Oncology in Lung Cancer: ACCP Evidence-Based Clinical Practice Guidelines (2nd edition). 2007. Cassileth, B. et al. Chest. 132:340S-354.


Posted by Tristan (Sydney, Australia) on 05/14/2009

I received the below from a friend, and thought it may be helpful for some people out there. Good luck!


My Mom had been taking the full-stalk canned style asparagus that she pureed and she took 4 tablespoons in the morning and 4 tablespoons later in the day. She did this for over a month. She is on chemo pills for Stage 3 lung cancer in the pleural area and her cancer cell count went from 386 down to 125 as of this past week. Her oncologist said she does not need to see him for 3 months.

Several years ago, I had a man seeking asparagus for a friend who had cancer. He gave me a photocopied copy of an article,entitled, `Asparagus for cancer' printed in Cancer News Journal, December 1979.
I will share it here, just as it was shared with me:
'I am a biochemist,and have specialized in the relation of diet to health for over 50 years..Several years ago, I learned of the discovery of Richard R. Vensal, D.D.S. that asparagus might cure cancer.

Since then, I have worked with him on his project. We have accumulated a number of favorable case histories. Here are a few examples:
Case No. 1, A man with an almost hopeless case of Hodgkin's disease (cancer of the lymph glands) who was completely incapacitated. Within 1 year of starting the asparagus therapy, his doctors were unable to detect any signs of cancer, and he was back on a schedule of strenuous exercise.

Case No. 2, a successful businessman 68 years old who suffered from cancer of the bladder for 16 years. After years of medical treatments, including radiation without improvement, he went on asparagus. Within 3 months, examinations revealed that his bladder tumor had disappeared and that his kidneys were normal.

Case No.. 3, a man who had lung cancer. On March 5th 1971, he was put on the operating table where they found lung cancer so widely spread that it was inoperable. The surgeon sewed him up and declared his case hopeless. On April 5th he heard about the asparagus therapy and immediately started taking it. By August, x-ray pictures revealed that all signs of the cancer had disappeared..

He is back20at his regular business routine.
Case No. 4, a woman who was troubled for a number of years with skin cancer.
She finally developed different skin cancers which were diagnosed by the acting specialist as advanced. Within 3 months after starting on asparagus, her skin specialist said that her skin looked fine and no more skin lesions.
This woman reported that the asparagus therapy also cured her kidney disease, which started in 1949. She had over 10 operations for kidney stones, and was receiving government disability payments for an inoperable, terminal, kidney condition. She attributes the cure of this kidney trouble entirely to the asparagus.

I was not surprised at this result, as `The elements of materia medica', edited in 1854 by a Professor at the University of Pennsylvania, stated that asparagus was used as a popular remedy for kidney stones. He even referred to experiments, in 1739, on the power of asparagus in dissolving stones.
Note the dates!

We would have other case histories but the medical establishment has interfered with our obtaining some of the records. I am therefore appealing to readers to spread this good news and help us to gather a large number of case histories that will overwhelm the medical skeptics about this unbelievably simple and natural remedy.

For the treatment, asparagus should be cooked before using, and therefore canned asparagus is just as good as fresh.

I have corresponded with the two leading canners of asparagus, Giant and Stokely, and I am satisfied that these brands contain no pesticides or preservatives.

Place the cooked asparagus in a blender and liquefy to make a puree, and store in the refrigerator. Give the patient 4 full tablespoons twice daily, morning and evening. Patients usually show some improvement in from 2-4 weeks. It can be diluted with water and used as a cold or hot drink.

This suggested dosage is based on present experience, but certainly larger amounts can do no harm and may be needed in some cases.
As a biochemist I am convinced of the old saying that `what cures can prevent'. Based on this theory, my wife and I have been using asparagus puree as a beverage with our meals.

We take 2 tablespoons diluted in water to suit our taste with breakfast and with dinner. I take mine hot and my wife prefers hers cold. For years we have made it a practice to have blood surveys taken as part of our regular checkups.

The last blood survey, taken by a medical doctor who specializes in the nutritional approach to health, showed substantial improvements in all categories over the last one, and we can attribute these improvements to nothing but the asparagus drink...
As a biochemist, I have made an extensive study of all aspects of cancer, and all of the proposed cures.

As a result, I am convinced that asparagus fits in better with the latest theories about cancer. Asparagus contains a good supply of protein called histones, which are believed to be active in controlling cell growth. For that reason, I believe asparagus can be said to contain a substance that I call cell growth normalizer. That accounts for its action on cancer and in acting as a general body tonic.

In any event, regardless of theory, asparagus used as we suggest, is a harmless substance. The FDA cannot prevent you from using it and it may do you much good. It has been reported by the US National Cancer Institute, that asparagus is the highest tested food containing glutathione, which is considered one of the body's most potent anticarcinogens and antioxidants.

Please spread the news... the most unselfish act one can ever do is paying forward all the kindness one has received, even to the most undeserved

EC: The asparagus cure for lung cancer has been floating around the internet for about 3 years, according to Snopes:

Here's a discussion thread on the subject:

Replied by Daniel S.
(Los Angeles)

The link for the discussion is broken.

I found this in wikipidea:

"Once a tumor has been established, elevated levels of glutathione may act to protect cancerous cells by conferring resistance to chemotherapeutic drugs.[64]The antineoplastic mustard drug canfosfamide was modelled on the structure of glutathione."

Which seems to be in contrast with the properties of asparagus.

Any thoughts?

Replied by Timh
2083 posts

Recently I embarked on a commitment to significantly increase my Glutathione levels. I get lots of Sulfur from my diet and supplement TMG & DMG for the Glycine. So the remaining amino acid to complete the GTH precursor is Glutamine, so started supplementing Glutamic Acid and because I have aggressive stage 1 cancer, had to quickly stop the supplement. So I went back to powdered preformed Glutathione supplement, and boom same problem.

It is now a well documented fact that the amino acids Glutamine, Glutamic Acid or Glutamate (found as additive in foods) is as an important fuel for cancer as sugar.

To enhance detoxification in cancer prevention or during cancer treatment, I would advise lots of foods like Broccoli, Brussel Sprouts, Kale, and Cabbage and/or supplementing these foods in extract form or I3C, DIM, Sulforaphane. These compounds are some of the most potent healing agents found in nature as they significantly enhance both phase 1 & 2 detoxification and also stimulate proper RNA & DNA protection & production.

Replied by Rsw


Just sat down to read Earth Clinic this late evening, and I am so sorry to hear your report of cancer. I know you have been struggling with illness for some time, but I didn't want to hear that, Timh. However, if anyone knows and understand how our bodies work and heal, it's you. I can't even begin to count how many people you have helped with your advice and wisdom on this site over the years. I just bought some alfalfa sprouts and watercress today, and other times try the brocolli sprouts and add cilantro. As you say, they are some of the best foods nature has to offer. Now with summer coming, we can also have access to more fresh fruits and vegetables, always a good choice. Always amazed at the benefits offered by Alpha Lipoic Acid and, of course, LDN.

I will keep you in my prayers, Timh, and have confidence you will figure out what is needed to defeat this and turn it around. Please keep us updated and as always, we will look for your advice to help us, also. You are a gracious contributor on EC, and a true gem to share your knowledge so generously all these years. Please take care and as always, educate us in what you discover. Let us know if we can help you in any way. Best wishes!

Replied by Timh
2083 posts

Thanks very much for your thoughts, prayer, support Rsw.

I have so many health problems that combined leave my detox & immune systems largely compromised, so I have for yrs been fighting with all the resources & strength I have, and sometimes make substantial progress only to go way back down again.

Chronic infections kept in check are not life-threatening, but if the tide turns in their favor, cancer sets in. Some of the great Holistic Dr's studying or treating cancer know the danger of reaching the cancer stage. When this happens the macrophages of the immune system get shut down by elevated levels of Nagalase. Supplementing Probiotics + Colostrum + Vit-D the precursor nutrients for the GcMAF enzyme which inhibit Nagalse, thus reactivating macrophages. Robert Henry (concerned of his absence here) gave me the final alert on the necessity of GcMAF in cancer prevention & therapy, so I have got very good results from this but the causes of my detox & immune dysfunction keep the chronic infections always at the cancer level.

So, it's a tug-of-war between life & death for me and time will tell the outcome.

Replied by Teena
(Melbourne, Australia)
232 posts

Timh, we are at EC are so grateful and appreciative for your time, assistance and knowledge for every one else's sickness, be assured you have our collective best thoughts for your own health. A lovely poster very recently shared her experience with iodoral in very high doses. I found this fascinating and researched, apparently with high dose iodine (100 to 200mg) day there are no detox/ill effects because the excess forms an antioxidant said to be 300 times stronger than vitamin c. Unfortunately I could not find the studies these results were obtained from, Art however is frequently posting studies and his sleuth skills I greatly admire. I did find testimonies from people who claimed cancers, tumors, fibroids, stones etc had been halted and dissolved. It seemed to be particularly useful for those regions that specifically require iodine, the uterus, breast, prostate. I intend to take this up soon myself. I am sorry if you feel stress, that is not my intent. You have so much knowledge and know what is best for your body, and your journey is your own. I just felt I needed to ensure you specifically were aware of this. My very best to you Timh

Baking Soda

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Posted by Brian (Epsom, Uk) on 10/05/2012
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My wife has been taking baking soda in water for her non small cell lung cancer. She has had pain in the general area of the tumur as well as in some bone. Could this be due to the baking soda?. also she has sickness, again could this be the b.s.?

To me it makes sense that cancer is a fungus and cancer plus other serious illness are caused by shock like a sudden death of a family member which happened to my wife some years before the cancer was found.

regards, brian

Replied by Rsw
(Uniontown, Oh)

Hi Brian, A woman on the LDN Yahoo site who had cancer for which she was sent home to get her affairs in order and is doing well now, believes an effective attack on cancer (among other things) is made by fasting (with juicing) from Sunday evening until Wednesday morning. The cancer cells continue to work themselves to death without food while normal cells slow down and conserve. On Wednesday morning, the first thing she eats is maple syrup mixed with baking soda which takes it directly to the cancer cells. Other things I have seen is DCA and ALA. Topically, MSM and DMSO mixed with Celebrex and water are suggested for areas of pain. Best wishes.

Replied by Happy
(Up The Creek In, Wv, Usa)

in reply to : 10/05/2012: Brian from Epsom, Uk-- "... Serious illness are caused by shock like a sudden death of a family member which happened to my wife some years before the cancer was found...."

Brian: Mr, Hamer's GERMAN NEW MEDICINE claims a success rate of approx. 98% for curing cancer. This was validated and agreed to by the prosecuters in a court of law. You have stated that you agree with the concept. Why don't you contact a pracititioner of the german new medicine and allow one of them a chance to cure your wife?

Mr. Hamer will not be available to serve as your doctor, because he is on the run from the medical gestapo. However, there are people who practice the medicene, and I assume some are in the UK, but I have not checked. Go to the german new medicene website for a list.

I have had no experience with it myself. No one else claims such a cure rate.

Baking Soda
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 01/10/2010

New Baking Soda Nebulizer Lung Cancer Cure

Hi All...Just read this at the Yahoo Baking Soda Cures group and is an email concerning a successful new BS treatment that Dr Simoncini is using:

"I have some exciting news to report. We have been administering 8.4% sodium bicarbonate to our lung cancer patients by nebulizer inhalation, along with our regular intravenous treatment protocols. Currently, we have received back an all-clear PET scan on a non-small cell lung cancer case! There is no question, when comparing the baseline scan and the post treatment one, showing no residual malignancy remaining. The only thing which could account for having resolved this non-small cell lung cancer case -the one element of treatment we had added- was sodium bicarbonate by nebulizer inhalation. There can be no other explanation for this victory. The sodium bicarbonate was the element which made the difference.

Also, we are getting good response against mesothelioma, using the direct inhalation method with the 8.4% sterile vials of sodium bicarbonate. I wanted to let you know about this. Of course, now we are administering sodium bicarbonate by inhalation therapy to all cancer patients which have lung cancer or another form of malignancy with mets to the lungs.

M. C. C. - USA"

You should be able to check this out at Dr Simoncini's website at

The usefulness of the BS in solution nebulizer remedy might also happily have application for other lung remedies -- from perhaps flu and colds to pneumonia, bronchitis, emphysema etc. You could even perhaps combine H2O2 and BS in solution using the nebulizer spray. You could also perhaps use the nebulizer with iodine(in very dilute solution)or to ingest larger amounts of Magnesium in solution (thus avoiding the restrictive laxative effects in the gut). The possibilities seem endless.

This is certainly very good news

Replied by Celtylass
(Colorado Springs,, Colorado)

In regards to the post about using baking soda in a nebulizer for lung much baking soda would one use. Would it be dissolved in water and then put in the nebulizer? What would the amounts be? Something like a tsp. per cup water or what? Anybody else using hydrogen peroxide in a nebulizer? If so, how much are you using?

Replied by Bill
(San Fernando, Philippines)

Hi Celtylass...An 8.4% solution of Sodium Bicarbonate is approximately 8.4 grams of BS in 100 ml of water. From here are the conversions:

Approximate conversions

1 teaspoon = 5 ml = 5 grams

1/2 cup = 8 tablespoons = 118 ml

Exact conversions for Baking Soda

1 teaspoon BS = 4.6 grams.

So the mixture would approximate to about 2 teaspoons of BS(9.2 grams) in 8 tablespoons of water(118 ml). This would be put into the nebulizer and used. For frequency of use, best to check Dr Simoncini's website(from my last post)

Hope this helps.

Replied by Celtylass
(Colorado Springs, Colorado)

Hi Bill, I appreciate that breakdown. I found other info on another web-site that calls for a 4:1 mixture. That would be 8 tablespoons water to 2 tablespoons baking soda right? Pretty close to yours, only you said teaspoons.I tried reading that article but alot of it was just way over my head...hard to understand so I am not sure how often one can nebulize with this mixture. I will start out by trying it once and go from there. I don't have cancer but chronic bronchitis.

Replied by Bryan
(Combermere, Ontario, Canada)

I'm wondering if those ultrasonic room humidifiers would make an inexpensive off the shelf type nebulizer for dispensing of these remedies.

Also wondering if those steam generating type sick room humidifiers will work, they are really cheap.

Replied by Bill
(San Fernando, Philippines)

Hi Celtylass...Well done with your decision to use a BS solution with nebulizer. Another protocol you might like to try -- one that is also very useful against bronchitis -- is the hydrogen peroxide (HP) inhalation therapy using a nebulizer as well. This HP therapy also kills microbes as well as supplies more energy to your lungs and blood. When HP breaks down after reaction, this is the equation:

2H2O2 --> 2H20 O2

Both the BS and HP nebulizer inhalation therapies will help kill microbes, but the hydrogen peroxide method also gives you more energy as well, more oxygen, so this is worth considering...

Here is the link to the Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Therapy using a nebulizer:

Replied by Shabnam


My mom has been struggling with non small cell lung cancer. I recently heard about using baking soda through nebulizer to cure it.However, I have read both positive and negative reviews about it.We are really confused whether to use it or not. Please please help me and tell me if anyone you know have been cured using this technique.we are in a very difficult position. Please help me

Replied by Mmsg
(Somewhere, Europe)

Shabnam, maybe first read up about, and try diluted H2O2.

Replied by Dave
(Fountain Inn, Sc)

Hello Shabnam,

About your mother's small cell lung cancer...

You ask about nebulizer and baking soda.

Google "Dr. Simoncini Cancer Tutor" and you can read about this. Simoncini recommends very limited amounts taken orally but different when applied topically or in enema form. See for yourself if you think this kind of treatment might benefit using nebulizer. If me, I'd be trying any reasonable help. Simoncini was an oncologist.

Replied by David

How much, how often?

Baking Soda and Maple Syrup

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Posted by Bill Thompson (San Fernando, La Union, Philippines) on 06/04/2009

Maple Syrup and Sodium Bicarbonate:

I've been a proponent of Ted's Lemon + Sodium Bicarbonate, Hydrogen peroxide and herbals for about 4 years now and take them regularly. I'm specifically writing because I've come across another bicarb mix that is supposed to cure cancer. This is maple syrup mixed with Sodium Bicarbonate and here is how to make it:

"This treatment is a combination of pure, 100% maple syrup and baking soda and was first reported on the Cancer Tutor site. When mixed and heated together, the maple syrup and baking soda bind together. The maple syrup targets cancer cells (which consume 15 times more glucose than normal cells) and the baking soda, which is dragged into the cancer cell by the maple syrup, being very alkaline forces a rapid shift in pH killing the cell. The actual formula is to mix one part baking soda with three parts (pure, 100%) maple syrup in a small saucepan. Stir briskly and heat the mixture for 5 minutes. Take 1 teaspoon daily, is what is suggested by Cancer Tutor but one could probably do this several times a day."

I would very much like to know what Ted thinks of this remedy in terms of alkalizing and energy. I also can see no reason why Honey or Molasses cannot be substituted for maple syrup, since it's cure-effect relies purely on the combination of sugars and bicarb to kill the cancer.

Many thanks

Replied by Robert
(Melbourne, Australia)
1 out of 5 stars


The maple syrup and baking soda cure is yet another miracle cure that originated in that bastion of journalistic integrity "The Weekly World News". A Google search on Jim kelmun revealed that hundreds of alternative healing websites all carry the same story, almost always with the same wording, about the 75-year-old truck-driver, who stumbled upon the putative cancer cure. Apart from this, there doesn't appear to be any other reference to Dr Kelmun online, including Wikipedia, which is odd, given his apparent long-running battle with health authorities. I'm not saying that the cure doesn't work; however, there is good reason to treat this cure with a grain of salt or, in this case, baking soda.

Replied by Ted
(Bangkok, Thailand)
383 posts


I believe there IS a better safer protocol than this one. The idea behind the maple syrup is that the cancer cells will uptake the sugar and then when it does uptake them, the baking soda will kill them. The idea was paralleled with another therapy called Insulin Potentiating Therapy (IPT), where they use insulin so that the cells can access sugar and use chemotherapy to kill them when they are in higher metabolic state. What's not mentioned is there is a more effective therapy then IPT, using a chemotherapy plus DMSO, which allows cancer cells to become "oxygenated" killing the cells that way and DMSO is highly penetrable by all cells converting malignant cells into inactive malignant cells. IT becomes benign by killing off the viruses that lead to malignancy. Some people might deny that cancer are viral related, but in hepatitis B virus, as carrier over the long term, along with bad diets such as high sugar, they becomes liver cancer. It's quite common for people here in Thailand to have liver cancer after having a Hepatitis B virus. In fact a doctor using DMSO with chemotherapy, as an alternative to IPT actually worked better. So when I used tannic acid with DMSO, they work very well, especially liver cancer and breast cancer. A lung cancer metastasis (become virulent) AFTER a radiation treatment on the chest area destroys the thymus gland, your immune system so they spread very quickly within 2-3 days. This happens because they are virally related. However, if they are virally related, at the very least a 1000 mg lysine and threonine for 6 hours a day will easily stop their progression, hence radiation or chest x rays on Thymus glands is one sure way to get cancer to spread. Hence a better form of IPT I used is DMSO with tannic acid, and I may add fulvic acid to the mix. Another way to get sugar into cancer killing them is NOT to use sugar, but a sugar camouflage, where these cancer cells uptake as quickly. Those sugar camouflage I used are mostly the polyol sugars, but especially well known in research circles is the sorbitol, which leads to rapid cancer cell death (apoptosis) within hours after application. They however used a high concentration, rougly 14.6% sorbitol solution, so it makes them more ideal for gastic cancer (stomach cancer) which is what I am currently dealing with at the moment and intestinal cancer. Sorbitol can be made more penetating with DMSO, say 10% solution. Tannic acid with DMSO is another one that works very well as another substitute. Ideally I am looking along the lines of the use of cancer using sorbitol, tannic acid and DMSO mixture, which theoretically would be the best. The proven ones for me against cancer for most of them, in non critical area where brain tumor and lung tumor is not included, is the use of lysine, threonine, methylene blue 0.1%, tannic acid, DMSO and fulvic acid. Those I know does work, and I am currently testing the use of sorbitol incorporating into the protocol. Hence, it's much safer to use sorbitol with baking soda, or sorbitol with DMSO and baking soda, or any other similar combinations. The energy cancer can extract from most polyol sugars are almost very little so you starve the cancer that way, by providing a sugar decoy, but can't be metabolized easily. One other polyol sugar that goes quickly to the bloodstream and has great difficulty in metabolising that I am looking over is the use of erythritol. However sorbitol is cheaper then erythritol, which is why I am looking over this first, then perhaps, if I can get more erythritol this can be used as a safer form then the use of maple syrup and baking soda. It doesn't work because they tend to worsen cancer in practice, most become metastatic after the use of the so called maple syrup and baking soda.

If there is one important rule for cancer people in hospital, is NEVER TO EAT ANY SUGAR. This includes fructose (corn syrup) and sweet fruits. This is one rule that is a very strict one. Regardless of any kind of alternative cancer treatment and conventional cancer treatment, SUGAR HAS TO BE AVOIDED. Cancer cells are fermentative and anaerobic and relies sugar as their sole source of energy. The nutrient requirement is simple and therefore the rules is also simple. A polyol sugar is toxic one. Another sweet oil is benzaldehyde (found in apricot pits and almond oil), but can be purchased as benzaldehyde is also very toxic to cancer cells. Dose I am looking over is only a few drops without any side effects.

Note: The dose of lysine and threonine is taken for six hours, at hourly doses for 6 doses.

Replied by Bill
(San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines)

Hi Ted...Huge thanks for your explanations concerning the use of Maple Syrup against cancer with more useful and safer alternatives that you mention.

Concerning DMSO, I have also read recently that DMSO can be used successfully with sodium bicarbonate against any cancer.

Apparently, apart from its anti-oxidant and other beneficial properties, DMSO has a strong affinity for cancer tumours, actually targeting and accumulating in these tumours as well as having the useful property of penetrating the blood/bone barrier easily. Therefore it seems that use of DMSO would also be very useful even against metastased cancer.

Here is the evidence from research done as far back as 1968, where it was found that DMSO, when tagged with Haemotoxylon, a red dye used in chemotherapy, could bind easily with DMSO and that, when observed by scan, DMSO was found to accumualate mainly in cancer tumours:

DMSO Targets Cancer

Here is the only cancer clinic in America that is currently using the DMSO/Sodium Bicarbonate remedy against cancer:

The Camelot Cancer Care Clinic in Tulsa, Oklahoma

Finally, some questions:

* If DMSO is capable of bonding with most water-soluble chemicals, would it not be possible also to use DMSO with sodium bicarbonate, lysine, vitamin c, aspirin, azoxystrobin, BHT, bloodroot, magnesium chloride etc. as a very specific, useful and accurate targeting and delivery system against cancer tumours either orally or transdermally?

* Have you done any research on this?

Much thanks again for your advice with good health to you and your family,


Replied by Vijay
(San Jose, Ca)

I have dealt at some length with Camelot folks. They are a cautious bunch (probably afraid of ostracism).

As anyone can clarify from their website, they DO NOT use DMSO and Baking Soda (I wrote to Dr Simoncini who confirmed it). They used to and dropped it because they did not find it as effective as they wanted it.

Since a long time, they use mainly DMSO, Vit B17 and Vit C (along with other botanicals, etc.).

Replied by Wydo

Hi Ted, I would like to know if you are using your sorbitol, tannic acid, DMSO and fulvic acid blend topically, inhale it, ingest it or inject it. I am using potassium ascorbate that I make up using 3 tads of ascorbic acid and 3 tads of potassium bicarbonate with a tad of sugar in water that I ingest. I can switch the sugar to sorbitol or erythritol because I have both. I do monitor my blood pressure and I counter this with sodium ascorbate in the evening or if my blood pressure drop a little low. How does your blend measure up to this?

Replied by Wydo

Hi Ted I hope that you are doing better in the hospital and we will get you back soon.

This is an update to my last question. Maybe Bill from San Fernando, Philippines can answer this one. I am still interested in finding out how Ted's protocol is mixed up and in what proportions as well as how it is taken. Like orally, topically or what. I have one in the lung and I have never smoked.

I made a typo on how I take the ascorbic acid and potassium. It is 3 tabs of ascorbic acid and 2 tabs of potassium bicarbonate with erythritol first thing in the morning. I take lysine throughout the day with L-threonine as well as BHT. I now have the worst cold I have ever had. I am pouring out with a very acid mucous and I am wondering if it has something to do with with what I am doing or if it is just a cold.

I am also doing a zinc chloride with lugol's Iodine and ascorbic acid and DMSO applied to the skin on my back at T5 where there is one that is pressuring a nerve and causing pain..

Can anyone help with Ted's protocol? I can really use it right now as well as any help. Has anyone tried this protocol?


Replied by Bill
(San Fernando, Philippines)

Hi Wydo...Ted's recommendations for lung cancer, as far as I know them, are as follows:

* First and foremost, reduce your sugar and carbohydrate intake in your diet so that your blood sugar levels are consistently at or below 90 mgs/dL. This is extremely important. If you successfully maintain your sugar level at this lower level then the cancer will be stopped in its tracks. You could perhaps also supplement sugar lowering minerals like chromium and vanadium on a daily basis to help you with this this task.

* Beta Glucan, 1/2 tsp taken once in the morning and once in the evening. This improves and helps the immune system fight and recognize the cancer.

* Lysine and threonine. Taken 4 times in the morning and 4 times in the evening. A single dose is lysine:1000 mgs and threonine: 500 mgs per dose. There can be variations in these dosages -- just take the dosage you are happiest with.

* 6 drops of lugols iodine taken 5 times a day with water (for a total of 30 drops total per day). This drop dosage is equivalent to about 190 mgs per day and is a large total per diem dose. So work up to the total dosage and frequency slowly. Another way to take lugols iodine is simply to combine it with DMSO to be used topically -- 1 teaspoon DMSO with 1/2 tspn iodine and everyday spread this mix in a thin layer directly over your lungs alternating between your chest or back regions. From the original research, DMSO has a super-affinity to collect inside cancer cells. So taking this mix topically like this will also pull higher amounts of LI into the cancer cells with the DMSO which should give a higher rate of cancer cell death.

* Keep taking the Vitamin c and potassium. This is a useful alkalizer for the body and useful for improving the negative potential of the body.

* Keep taking the zinc chloride. The normal dose for zinc gluconate or zinc citrate is 25 mgs per day taken with breakfast.

From my own point of view the following might also directly help against lung cancer:

* You could try using Bill Munroe's Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method. You can use an atomizer or fine mist sprayer or nebulizer for this. This will put hydrogen peroxide directly into your lungs to help kill both the cancer cells and possible flu/cold virus by direct contact. You should also not supplement hydrogen peroxide orally as this is an oxidant and you are already supplementing mainly anti-oxidants. When oxidants and anti-oxidants are supplemented with each other they react, neutralize and cancel out each other's beneficial effects. I've used this inhalation method to successfully get rid of lung viruses. I normally use 1.5% hydrogen peroxide by nebulizer and inhale it for 10 to 20 mins, but I have also read where some people have used up to 3% HP for lung inhalation. But if you use this inhalation method and it makes you cough then just lower the % strength of HP to more acceptable and tolerable levels. And, like Bill Munroe, I also just use the ordinary HP that is store-bought from the pharmacy or chemist that contains small amounts of stabilizers.

Supplementing regular amounts of acetyl-cysteine(600 mgs twice a day), taurine(1000 mgs twice a day) and/or MSM(5gms to 10 gms a day) taken with water. These are all sulfur sources for the body. Sulfur is a wonderful detoxer of heavy metals and other poisons that also helps against pain and inflammation. And, like iodine, sulfur tends to be highly protective for the lungs and that's what you need right now.

Lastly, the fact that mucus is pouring out of your lungs may also be a good sign. Think of it as ejecting all the poison and crap in your lungs. This might even be a Herx or die-off reaction and so that may not be a bad result.


Hi Bill, I just wanted to let you know about the PET scan that I took on 11/16/2015. The cancer I have in the lung reduced down for over 4cm down to 2cm X 1.6cm with all metastasis is gone. I had a CT scan and it is a little larger now at 2cm X 2.2cm. Three weeks before I got the CT scan I caught my wife's virus and this was a really bad one. I wonder if having the virus put my immune system at its limits and set me back. I do have some IBS that I am fighting with and not doing the greatest.

Do you have any advise for this. I am still doing all the things you said to do.

Thank you


Hi Bill, it seems I jumped the gun on posting here. I went over my CT scan with my Oncologist and he reminded me that the CT scan does not show cancer activity and he believes that the 2 x 2.2 cm mass in the lung is no longer active. My last PET scan in November 2015 showed that this mass was very low on the active scale. This last CT scan report also shows scaring on the bone where the cancer was growing in the bone. All metastasis is gone and the bone is growing denser. I am probably clean at this point but I have to wait for the next PET scan to find out for sure.

Is there any way that I could get rid of or at least reduce the size of the 2 x 2.2 cm mass in the lung? The doctor said it will always be there but I would like it gone.

Thank you and Ted for all your help in getting this under control.

Replied by Wydo

Hi Bill, thank you for the reply. I have stage 4 cancer with a 4.5 cm one in the lung. I also have one at T5 on the spine that presses at a nerve there that causes some pain. Other than that I feel healthy and I have the most energy that I have had in years. I have never smoked and never drank alcohol. I have lived a very healthy life and I do yoga and I am slim and well built for a 64 year old. I am also a vegetarian. My wife is a type one diabetic and to help encourage her not to eat sugar I stopped eating it many years ago.

A while back I found that lysine helped me a lot and I have been taking 1 gram every day once in the morning. I've increased it to 6 times a day with the threonine since I found out about the C. I put on clove oil now. Because of the pain at T5 I made up a topical solution made like this; I take a 1 ounce dropper bottle and put in 6 dropper full of the 5% Lugol's iodine then put in vitamin C until it goes clear then ad aloe vera and put the zinc chloride in. On top of that I ad more aloe vera until the container is one third full. I fill the rest of the container with DMSO and I apply to the T5 area. I based this recipe on what Ted has said but I am afraid from what you say that I did not use enough iodine. How should I improve this formula?

I do use Bill Munro's HP inhalation therapy. It was the first thing I started because I had been using it periodically anyway.

The potassium ascorbate I make up from 3 tabs of ascorbic acid and 3 tads of potassium bicarbonate hardly moves my blood pressure down at all and I am wondering if I should up that amount. Do you have any ideas on this?

I do have food grade DMSO but I am not sure how to use this.

Thank you for your advise on the other things you mention that I am not using. I'm going to get the beta glucan as soon as I can.

My original post was a question about other things that Ted mentions like this one;

"The proven ones for me against cancer for most of them, in non critical area where brain tumor and lung tumor is not included, is the use of lysine, threonine, methylene blue 0.1%, tannic acid, DMSO and fulvic acid. Those I know does work, and I am currently testing the use of sorbitol incorporating into the protocol. Hence, it's much safer to use sorbitol with baking soda, or sorbitol with DMSO and baking soda, or any other similar combinations."

I have everything but the fulvic acid. I wondered if the above was to be taken internally and what the proportions would be and how often to take it.

Thanks for your help. Wydo

Replied by Wydo

Hi Bill,

I want to know more about protecting my liver at this point. I am taking silymarin several times a day. Ted said in one of his posts that lecithin is key to get at cancer in the liver. I don't have it in the liver and I want to prevent that from ever happening. I would also like to do the Johanna Budwig muesli with the flax seed but Ted said that the quark is not good for cancer because of the calcium. I saw another post of Ted's where he mixed granulated lecithin with flax seed oil but Johanna Budwig said that the flax seed oil must be bound with sulfur and that's why she used the quark. I substituted the quark with MSM and this is what I did. I put a 3 tablespoons of flax seed oil in a soup cup and added 2 heaping teaspoons of granulated lecithin and mixed them together. In another cup I put 3 heaping teaspoons of MSM powder. To this I added warm water slowly into the MSM until it was dissolved. I added the dissolved MSM into the flax seed oil lecithin mix. I then used a hand held blinder to mix it all together and drank it immediately. The lecithin makes a good emulsifier and there was no separation of the oil.

My concern is, am I putting in enough granulated lecithin into the flax seed oil? What do you think Bill?

Just to let you know I buy my flax seed oil in a glass bottle from the health food store which keeps it refrigerated. There isn't the slightest bit of bitterness to it and it has a fresh nutty flavor so I know it is fresh. The manufacturer says that cold process the pressing of the oil in order to keep it fresh.

Replied by Denise

Hi Ted,

My mother has lung cancer which is spreading, last week I made her maple syrup and baking soda mix. What is safer to use instead of maple syrup please? and what is DMSO?


Replied by David

You say 1 part to 3 parts but what is 1part? A cup, a quart, what are the measurements? Thanks

(Melbourne, Australia)
232 posts

A part is just consistency with measurements. If you use a tablespoon, that's the part. If you use a cup, that's the part.

DMSO, Frankincense

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Posted by Kimberly (West Virginia) on 04/02/2016
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My dad has stage 4 lung cancer spread to liver, and bones he had developed a large marble sized tumor on his cheek bone and much pain associated with it. I purchased sacred frankincense (essential oil) not regular frankincense and pharmaceutical grade dmso found only online 99.9% pure. I purchased dark Amber 15ml bottles with metal roll on ball online. I filled bottle half full with dmso and other half with the oil. Shook well. We applied once a day. It burns but dmso takes the frankincense directly into the tumor reverting it into a normal sell it doesn't kill it it transforms. DMSO acts as a Trojan horse for anything mixed with it. Alone it will transform cancer cells into normal working cells mixed with something it's a double punch.

1 week later tumor was gone and he has very little pain left. He then began experiencing extreme pain in the liver area and around the the ribs on his right side. He then began applying the same mixture over that area multiple times a day. He is now completely pain-free.

To soothe a burning that comes on about three minutes after application of the DMSO and Frankincense Oil, apply organic extra-virgin olive oil over the area. It will neutralize the pain from the burn caused from the DMSO penetrating the skin when the skin becomes to roll, then apply only frankincense for a few days, and then go back to the DMSO. Use as an alternate back-and-forth.

We have other internal remedies were using for the lung cancer and liver cancer such as as yet, but I have no report yet as we have not received any new scans. He was only diagnosed six weeks ago and has had one round of chemo for three days.

Replied by Mary

Thank you so much, I will try this. Please let me know what u use for lung cancer, amazing wonderful your report, bless God.

Replied by Wydo

I read in one of Ted's post that lecithin has to be a part of treatment for liver cancer. I also read in another of Ted's posts that silymarin or milk thistle seed extract is very important but he said that if you take to much at first the detox could kill so you have to start a low dose at first and work up. What else are you doing because the DMSO and frankincense is not enough? Was your dad a smoker or non smoker?

You need to get him off sugar and junk food. Then lower the amount of carbohydrates then go to a vegan diet. Get a blood glucose meter and check your dad's blood sugar level. Get the blood sugar level lowered to 100 or lower. I think clove bud oil is excellent if you breath it in through your nostrils. Look over Ted's remedies, they will give you the best results.

I hope to hear from you.

Replied by Wydo

I just wanted to add one more thing. When using any kind of oil, such as frankincense with DMSO, you can apply a hot pad to it. this works in 2 ways. The heat will drive in the oil deeper and faster. The other thing is that heat kills cancer but if you are using DMSO you should wait until it is soaked in. The pad needs to be at 120 degrees and it needs to say on for 20 minutes.

I went to one of the chain drug stores and there they had this hot/cold pad made up of pea size gel and one of them came with a belt that it fit into so that you can strap the pad to any spot you want to heat up. I have found this very helpful.

Replied by Amelia's


May I query how is ur dad doing? And what other complementary methods r u using?

Replied by Jagdishkumar
(India Gujarat)

My dad same problem and he is pain shoulder, arm, back and right chest and lower right chest as well and he get 2 cm * 1.8 size lesion in top of right lung so please provide all genuine information and may be ur dad is now good

Replied by Denise

My mum has the same condition, she is in pain & don't know what to do!! What is DMSO pls?? and from where did u buy the oils?

Thanks so much

Replied by Amy
15 posts

You must mix the DMSO with distilled or purified water, THEN mix oil in. Be very careful, this is very potent! DMSO works much better at at least 95% solution...

Fenbendazole Dog Dewormer

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Posted by Carolyn (Texas) on 09/16/2021
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Panacur (Fenbendazole), among other natural treatments, did not cure my husband's lung cancer. He's now with the Lord. But it seems to work for some folks.

Replied by ORH

CAROLYN, ORH here, and I know this is a sensitive subject for you, but would you elaborate more? I ask that because I am almost certain that I have prostate cancer and am following the Joe Tippens protocol. I refuse to go the allopathic route because the cure rate is 2% after 70 years of the same ole same ole.


Lung Cancer Prevention

Posted by Arturo (San Jose, Ca) on 12/13/2009

Want to Cut Cancer Risk? Try Munching Pistachios

Wed Dec 9, 11:49 pm ET
WEDNESDAY, Dec. 9 (HealthDay News) -- Eating pistachios every day might reduce your risk for lung cancer and other malignancies, according to a new study.

Pistachios are a good source of a type of vitamin E called gamma-tocopherol.

"It is known that vitamin E provides a degree of protection against certain forms of cancer. Higher intakes of gamma-tocopherol ... may reduce the risk of lung cancer," Ladia M. Hernandez, a senior research dietitian at the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center and a doctoral candidate at Texas Women's University, said in a news release from the American Association for Cancer Research.

The study included 18 people who ate 68 grams (about 2 ounces or 117 kernels) of pistachios a day for four weeks and 18 people in a control group who did not add pistachios to their normal diet.

As the study progressed, those in the pistachio group showed significantly higher blood levels of gamma-tocopherol.

The findings were to be presented Dec. 8 in Houston at a cancer prevention conference sponsored by the American Association for Cancer Research.

"Pistachios are one of those 'good-for-you' nuts, and two ounces per day could be incorporated into dietary strategies designed to reduce the risk of lung cancer without significant changes in body mass index," Hernandez said.

"Other food sources that are a rich source of gamma-tocopherol include peanuts, pecans, walnuts, soybean and corn oils," she added.


Replied by Jsep
(Deland, Fl/usa)

Hi all, I've been dealing with cancer for 16 years, my primary cancer was testicular and it metastisized to my liver, I've had it 9 times now, been through many surgeries, lots of chemo and some radiation, but yet it still keeps coming back. I've tried so many different natural remedies but had no luck, I really would like some advice, I just don't want to do chemo no more, there has to be something out there that will work for my situation. If anyone has anything to offer please share and thank you in advance, Jason

Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)

Try turmeric and cayenne. You can sprinkle it on your food just like a condiment. The cayenne takes the tumeric to the areas that needs it by opening up the small arterioles. For prostate cancer the dose was about 350mgs a day of cayenne, for a couple of weeks. The hotter the rating of the cayenne the better. I'm not sure of the amount of turmeric, but its easier to take than cayenne.. I've heard if you take to much it feels like mild chemo.

Replied by Bess
(Calgary, Alberta, Canada)

Hi Jsep - I don't know if you've heard about Kelley Eidem (I believe he's from Florida). He wrote a book called "The Doctor Who Cures Cancer" (about Dr Revici) and Kelley also recovered from cancer himself.

You may want to read this:

He recently mentioned in one of his free newsletters about ensuring that you keep your pH balanced (not too acidic, not too alkaline) and take proteolytic enzymes.

You've been through so much. I hope you can find the answer that works for you. Best of luck, Bess

Replied by Francisca
(Zug, Zug, Switzerland)

Gavin, are you sure that you are not talking about 35mg of cayenne pepper? 350mg is 35g which is more than 2 tbspoons. It sounds a lot to me.... I fail to see how someone would take that amoung of pepper a day!


Hi Francisca from Zug, Switzerland,

No 350 mg does not equal 35 g. This the equivalent, 1000 mg equals 1 gram, 3500 mg is 35 g. There is about 2 or 3 grams to a teaspoon. The problem with taking six 600 mg caps of cayenne a day is that some people will not tolerate it. That can cause IBS and leaky gut in some people so be aware of that and cut it off if problems arise. I think Ted has a lot better cures that worked for me real well. First get off sugar then cut the carbs. The next step is to take one of Ted's alkalizing drinks. Get yourself a blood glucose meter and monitor you blood sugar and get it down to at least 100 mg/dl or to 80 if you can. Do this before you even look around for a cancer cure because this will stop the rapid growth. Well it did for me.

Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)

The guy that posted the cure took 6x600mg tablets of cayenne daily that were rated at 10000 scofeild units.. For a couple of weeks then dropped the dose by half. If you google cayenne and prostate cancer his blog comes up. There's other information which seems to suggest it attacks other cancers besides prostate, by causing the cells to go into suicide mode.

Replied by Lou
(Tyler, Tx)

Write to Ted from Bangkok, Thailand. Or search on earth clinic cancer and the specific type.

Lung Cancer Remedies

Posted by Angie (Concord, NC) on 05/22/2009

My husband has been dealing with cancer for eight years now.We have used conventional and alternative treatments.He has lung cancer that has spread to the brain and bone. He fell about four weeks ago and has been having hullucinations ever since.The doctors checked for trauma to the head and they really don't have an answer for me. I have heard low potassium levels to bladder infection to reaction to his meds but, it did not start till the fall. Does anyone have any idea what this could be please let me know Could it be somthing nutrtional he is missing?Thank you in advance for your help

Replied by Jerry
(Dublin, Ireland)

At this point it may be worth checking the bob beck protocol (Eat the meat, Spit out the bones). also you could check out Amygdalin / laetrile. God bless

Replied by Ironrod
(Green Bay, WI)

Have you tried the Dr. Budwig flaxseed protocol for cancer? Please Google it and get rid of the cancer... I had a friend with lung cancer and it cleared up soon with this easy program... good luck, Carl

Metastasized Lung Cancer Remedies

Posted by Amanda (Kilkenny, Ireland) on 09/12/2013

My dad has just been diagnosed with cancer, a large tumour in the lung, and it has spread locally to liver and stomach. He has not yet begun any treatment. He is 56. Are there any treatments or remedies worth trying?

Replied by Gavin
(Northland, New Zealand)

I'd use Cayenne and Garlic. Using both together, would prove very beneficial. The trials on Cayenne showed that it broke the cell wall, and the bodies immune system did the rest, it also stopped the metastasizing. Build the dose up over a few weeks. Garlic stops lung and bowel cancer, Cayenne prostate and leukemic, but it's suggested it works in breast and other cancers as well. If i'ts taken with food very high doses can be achieved without discomfort.

Incidentally they were using Garlic to treat TB. just before penicillin was invented.


How much, how often?


How much and how often, For lung cancer.

Replied by Sherri

Please read the testimonies from people that have been helped through juicing vegetables: Hope this will be an encouragement.

Replied by Janet Eckert
(Wall Twp. N.j.)

My message to help you. My husband has stage 4 lung..brain...liver...and bone cancer. His regimen today.... Lemon zest, Raspberry seed extract, Kale chips. Cancer gone in brain and liver after 3 months

(Staten Island Nrw Yoprkl)

was he getting any type of treatment?


Can you be specific. How much, how often?

Replied by Mommaw
(Odenton, Md)

I too have lung and liver cancer. How did you take the lemon zest? What else did your husband eat? I appreciate any help. Thank You, mom maw

Replied by Faeqa
(Amman, Jordan)
66 posts

Try kerosene therapy. I found a lot of positive information about using it in cancer therapy

Replied by Mommaw
(Odenton, Md)

Thanks , I will certainly check into that.

Replied by Om
(Hope, Bc Canada)

Google "The Truth about Cancer" and get more info. Namaste, Om

Replied by Idot13

Try the salt and lemon juice also the aloe Vera and local source honey and he should see a great improvement within a month but a few days he should start to feel a little better.

Replied by Sabita
(Orange City, FL)

Joe Tippens used animal medication to cure cancer...Panacur (yellow box). Look him up on YouTube.

Also check out: Https://

MSM, Vitamin C, D-Ribose

Posted by Stevo (Alliance, Ne) on 10/12/2013

My wife is suffering from cachexia from lung cancer, I've read elsewhere that 1000mg msm, 500mg vitaminc, and 1tsp d-ribose powder will help with the lactic acid. The d-ribose is susposed to get nutrients past the lactic acid blockade. What do you think, or do you suggest a better way?

Also, what are your feelings about the cellect-budwig treatment?

Thanks, Stevo

Replied by Mike
(Denver, Colorado)

Stevo: I am not a pro. I have studied the way food effects cellular biology from phds. And experimented with properly prepared products from reputable companies highly recommended by naturopath drs. For six years. Folk medicine cured all my diseases. My opinion is that your beloved wife should go on a complete raw whole food program that has all the bioactive nutrients she requires. You can google raw food for cancer videos. One is of a 27 year old who recovered from 4th stage glandular cancer eating raw organic fruits and vegetables and some soaked raw organic nuts and seeds. Many people say that fruit is not good because the cancer eats the sucrose and the fructose makes the cancer reproduce more rapidly. The raw foodists say the cancer does not eat the sugar because the tumor is dead. This kind of food creates an atmosphere where cells thrive and all diseases perish. If you want to do this you can reply and I'll give you the names of the products, dosages, and instructions.

Replied by Stevo

Thanks Mike, yes I am interested in the protocol you mentioned.

Replied by Mike
(Denver, Colorado)

Stevo: You can make 1 quart home made water kefir from 60g organic whole dried cane juice. You can get the grains for $10 shipped. They come with instructions. Google how to make water kefir in 2 minutes or less video. This is the best way to improve digestion. Take 4 cups per day. Get some pastured eggs. Whole Foods gets them from Texas. I got some from a farmers market one time and the yolks were soft and yellow. They should be firm and orange. There is a company online that sells eggs from hens who have been fed coco feed. The egg becomes an animal. All the nutrients are there in their most bioactive form and in the proper ratios. There is a famous story of a dying old woman who recovered after eating 3 dozen per day. Eat these raw. Do not stir them with a fork or grind them up in a blender. Crack the yolk with the teeth before swallowing. She can take as many as she wants. She can also take as much raw grass fed hamburger, raw organic fruits, and raw honey as she likes. The best fruits are berries. 100g organic strawberries has the daily dosage for c. The 2 best vegetables are hawaiin spirulina and baby leaves. There is a club for old folks in Japan. All they eat is spirulina. Baby leaves have growth factors not in regular leaves. You can make a 1 gallon green smoothie from 4oz. Organic baby leaves, 4oz. Organic baby spinach, and 1oz. Fresh organic parsley. Strain and remove the cellulose. You can add 15g hawaiin spirulina. She can take 1 cup per hour. You can store the rest in the fridge. When she wakes up in the middle of the night she can take another cup of this very potent remedy. You can add some organic chili or cayenne, not too hot, and 1 level tsp. Sun dried sea salt. She can take either 60g black chia seeds or 20g flax oil, 1/4 4 times per day. Chia is best. Take with 1 tsp. Coconut oil each time, expellar pressed is best. Put the chia in 1 pint water and stir 5 seconds every 30 seconds for 3 minutes. The right kind of fish is a very good remedy. For water soluable nutrients she can take 30g raw thai fish sauce that has been fermented for 2 years. For oil soluable nutrients like shark cartilage, all the quinones, a, d, and dha, she can take 1ml. Raw fermented skate liver oil 3 times per day. Put in a tsp. Of water and add 2 drops nascent iodine stabalized with alcohol and let dissolve through the gums. The vikings were able to cross the north atlantic in small one masted sailing boats because they took this super food. The only company in the world that makes this is based in your home state. A russian gets them from siberia. Thank you global economy. Cordyceps interfers with cancer. Hawaiin extract is the most potent. Absorbable colostrum has 87 growth factors.

Replied by Angela
(Atlanta, Ga)

I would love more information you can share with me. I have metastatic breast cancer and now lung cancer. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks

Replied by Mark
(Corona, Ca)

Wondering about subject use for CRC.

Multiple Remedies

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Posted by Marko (Slovenija) on 05/30/2018
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Hello! I'm writing about my father. A year ago he suffered a stroke and was diagnosed with lung cancer that spread to bones and liver. He was positive for mutations so the hospital gave him Giotrif, now they changed it to Tagrisso. We also went to Hoxsey clinic in Mexico, his lung cancer shrunk from 8 cm to 1,8 cm, the mets in bones are gone, liver mets as well. He has been, a few months ago, diagnosed with mets to the brain also. We started adding frankincense oil before sleep, but otherwise we use hoxsey tonic, B17 pills (2 pills per day) from Novodalin (Hoxsey center gave us that), Yewtips capsules from Pacific Yew (also Hoxsey), lately also Artemisinin with cottage cheese and a lot of food supplements:- acidophilus probiotics,- cruciferous pills,- flavonoid pills,- 2g of vitamin C per day,- Beta guard for immune system,- once a day Curcummin and black pepper in a capsule.

We have also changed the diet according to Hoxsey.

One cancer survivor said that we should use B17 (2x2 pills), digestive enzymes (2x2 pills) and DMSO to the forearm. Is that okay or do I have to watch out for contraindications as he takes also blood thinners, diabetes pills and pain killers? Since around we started that, he started feeling dizzy and feels pain in the groin and lungs where he had pleural effusion a month ago before they changed his meds to Tagrisso. Or should we put the DMSO on his chest and head where the tumors are and the locations of pain?

I know that this may be a bit confusing but any help is much appreciated, most of all if there are any dangers to using DMSO, digestive enzymes and B17 at the same time?

Kind regards, Marko

Thank you!

Multiple Remedies
Posted by Glenys (Kendal, Cumbria England ) on 10/26/2012

I hav been diagnosed with lung cancer small tuma nr my spine it shrunk with radiotherapy but months later got secondary cancer and also found nodules of cancer in my lungs looks like snow on x ray the secondary cancer had eaten a lot of my femor away so tgey put an iron bar in my leg 12 months later been in terrible pain in same right leg had mri scan they said theres a abnormal mass in my leg surrounded with fluid I dont see my oncologist till 14 th november in a fortnight is there anything alternative medicine I can take to help I get out of breath easy no longer go upstairs please can you suggest anything tht may help thank you glenys x

Replied by Timh
(Louisville, Ky)
2083 posts

Glenys: First line of defense for Cancer is to alkalize the body. Firstly, take a hot bath with 1/4 cup Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate and 1/4 cup Epsom Salt (Magnesium Sulfate) for 1 hr. Daily for one week, then start taking Ted's Remedy or buy the Earth Clinic book on alkalization.

Second, take Lipospheric Vitamin C at recommended doses. You can purchase online or maybe at health food store or you can make your own.

This is a frontline protocol cancer remedy and is itself very powerful. This should provide you with enough strength to begin an extensive cancer treatment protocol found here on E.C.

Multiple Remedies
Posted by Kelleyb (Chandler, Usa) on 03/07/2012

My dad (62 years old) was diagnosed with adenocarcenoma in his lung and was in the fluid around his heart. As far as I know they haven't yet said the primary is in his lung and are still doing tests to pinpoint where it is. He has also been put on coumadin because they've found a clot in his lung and are trying to dissolve it, so we're not supposed to change his diet or give him supplements until that is out of his system. He'd had a chest x-ray in January and everything looked good, so this came out of the blue.

When he was 40 he'd had his first heart attack and had 3 the next couple of years. He had a stint put in his heart in 1994 and has been mostly fine since. A couple years ago he started having leg pain and had another stint put in his leg to help. It did for awhile but the pain came back. He thought he'd had another mild heart attack in January and went to the hospital where they did the chest x ray and said everything was fine.

He has been a smoker forever. He quits periodically, sometimes for a year or more at a time, but has always gone back to it. I'm pretty sure this time he will stop for good. He's planning on doing chemo and I don't want to tell him not to. For one he wouldn't listen to me about it and another is it would make him upset. I believe that if you believe something will work for you then it has a much better chance of working.

I've been looking up things that will help and have run accross a few that sound really good and would like some guidance since I can't find anything that addresses his heart issues as well as the cancer. I've looked into the budwig, the cellect-budwig protocol, just the bugwig protocol, and Dr. Kelley's enzyme therapy. I'm hoping to get him on a mostly raw food diet along with a lot of juicing to build up his immune system. What do you think is the best choice or is there a better one that I have overlooked? I live 1,000 miles away and am going out there this weekend when he leaves the hospital. I'll be able to fly back out in a few weeks when the clot and coumadin are both gone and can start him on a better diet. He is a very strong, smart, stubborn man. I know he can beat this. I need all the information I can to get to him and my mom so they can read it over and see how well the alternative choices turn out. Please advice me on which protocol to take or any other one that I've overlooked. I'd also love any extras (diet, supplemental, exercize, websites or books) advice you may have.

Thank you for taking the time to read and reply to this, Kelley

Replied by Bill
(San Fernando, Philipines)

Hi Kelleyb... Here are some natural approaches to your father's problems which might help:

* Cancer in the Lung. The best protocol for this would seem to be Linus Pauling's Heart Disease Cure involving just high dose Vitamin C and Lysine as well as Mathias Rath's similar protocol for cancer involving higher dose Vitamin C and Lysine with Green Tea extract. Here is a link to an audio by Linus Pauling (Source: which describes, in his own words, how his protocol cured a fellow Nobel prizewinner of serious heart disease(after he had had multiple heart bypass and stent ops). Ted from Bangkok also has a very useful protocol that kills off cancer. See this link. The Japanese are also one of the heaviest smoking groups in Asia -- yet their incidents of lung cancer and other cancers is remarkably low. Then researchers discovered that the Japanese ate relatively high daily amounts of kelp and seaweed in their diet -- which contain iodine. Finally, a last piece of research identified that T3, T4 as well as iodine has a propensity to actually collect in the lungs. Iodine is anti-mutagenic, anti-carcinogenic and kills 95% of all known pathogens and yet is body friendly. So there is the reason for the low Japanese lung cancer rate -- therefore supplementing lugol's iodine or Iodoral would be highly beneficial and protective for the lungs.

* Heart and Circulation Problems -- Supplementing nutrients such as Vitamin C, Lysine, Iodine, Vitamin B3(as niacin), CoQ10, Alpha Lipoic acid(ALA), acetyl-l-carnosine and acetyl-l-carnitine are all beneficial. Vitamin B3 -- at higher dose and in excess in the blood, changes the blood and converts thick or clumpy blood into normal blood as well as, at the same time, dilating the capillaries and other blood vessels in the body to help reduce blood pressure. B3 also lowers removes dangerous cholesterol. See this link on using higher dose B3. See this link on using Alpha Lipoic Acid, Acetyl-l-Carnotine and Acetyl-l-Carnosine. I have also used the Chanca piedra herb to help remove excess calcium -- which can also cause heart problems -- from the body successfully. Supplementing magnesium will also benefit the heart and help to regulate the calcium. Supplementing with Nattokinase or Serrapeptase enzymes is also a successful way of removing thrombins or clots in the form of fibrinogens in the blood with few side-effects.

* Associated Liver/kidney Problems -- All cancers promote insufficient liver or kidney problems so it is best to support the liver during recovery. Taking ALA(300 mgs twice a day), Milk Thistle(1000 mgs twice a day), Selenium (200 mcg twice a day) -- all taken at mealtimes will benefit the liver. See this link. Taking the Chanca piedra herb in capsule form or as a tea is also highly beneficial for the liver and kidney.

Using the Budwig or Budwig Cellect protocols can also be useful. But unfortunately the Budwig protocol uses polyunsaturated oils from flaxseed. And polyunsaturated oils oxidize fairly quickly which makes them ineffective. So how do you know that the flaxseed oil you purchased from the organic shop hasn't been sitting on the shelf oxidizing for the past year? Also, I know that the full Kelley Metabolic protocol involves taking between 150 and 180 pills throughout the day as well. So I'm really not too sure how your stubborn father would cope with this sort of protocol.

Anyway, some ideas for you.

Replied by Jennywren
(Perth, Western Australia, Australia)

So sorry to hear your family is going through this. For his lungs, I can suggest nebulising with colloidal silver (from a health food store). I have done this for my bronchitis and my little boy's asthma and it works like magic. Put 5ml of colloidal silver in the nebuliser holder and get him to breathe it in deeply for 5 mins. Start on short amounts of time in order for his body to get used to it - often a person can get headaches and other flu-like symptoms as they undergo a 'healing crisis' (meaning the silver is killing lots of pathogens at once). Build up to around 15-20 mins and see how he feels. I got rid of my (very bad) bronchitis in three days with this method: 5 mins of nebulising in morning, 15 mins in afternoon, 10 mins in eve, and gradually reduce as symptoms diminish.

I know bronchitis is not the same as your Dad's lung condition, but it is sure to help - colloidal silver is a natural antibiotic that kills bacteria, fungus and viruses. Best wishes!

Replied by John
(Boise, Id, Usa)

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Replied by Timh
(Louisville, Ky)
2083 posts

Kelleyb, you are getting some great advise here on EC for your dads condition and I don't have anything to add except one thing in particular and that is a daily hot bath of 1/4-1/2 cup baking soda and epsom salt for 30-60 min. This will buffer the acidic condition associated w/ all cancers and help in detoxification. Also, the natural protocols given here require commitment and discipline comparred to conventional treatments. The body must be flooded w/ these natural medicines in order to beat the cancer.

Good luck and report changes.

Multiple Remedies
Posted by Julie B. R. (Phoenix, Az) on 09/23/2011

I just realized that I most likely have small cell lung cancer. It took me over 6 months to figure out because I attributed my muscle weakness and pain to (what looks like but isn't) Rheumatoid Arthritis which is the worst in my fingers and wrists (but also knees, feet, jaw and neck).

The borax cure magnesium had no results after several weeks. Have not gone back to it.

I have gone from being able to carry 2.5 gal water jugs in each hand to needing both arms/hands to handle a 1 gallon jug, sometimes even a glass of water. I thought the arthritis had moved into my rotator cuffs but the muscles were so weak I started searching for other answers.

I finally figured out that I have LEMS (Lambert-Eaton Myasthenia Syndrome) which is usually caused by small cell lung cancer. No surprise, I have been a smoker most of my life. While I realize I simply ought to be shot, I'm kinda fighting that option.

I "came down" with the arthritis about 8 months ago and started losing my hair at the same time. Tests were negative for RA & Lupus, and thyroid tests were within normal range. (I did have a chest x-ray 6 months ago that showed a small nodule. ) My inflammation has been constant and increasing since the onset of symptoms, as has my hair loss (top of my head is 1/2 bald now). Prior to this, I had unintended weight loss for a few years and now weigh 104 rather than my normal 125.

I was unable to pursue further medical tests because I was no longer insured, so the CT scan for my lung was never done but I figured it was just a benign COPD nodule anyway - no symptoms. Oops.

So... Add 2 2 and lung cancer appears obvious. Figured this out just a couple of days ago, despite over 6 months of symptoms & signs in my arms.

I have started serious alkalizing, and am taking the following:

- 1 T. Lemon juice w/baking soda water 2x/day

- 2000 mg sodium ascorbate in water 4x/day (twice with 1/4 tsp cayenne added)

- 1 tsp turmeric in water w/600mg bromelain crushed 1x/day

- 10,000IU D3 w/180mcg vit K daily (D3 level was 45 - not terrible, not great)

- 5,000 MSM 2-4x/day

- 500mg dandelion root 3x/day

- 1-2 cups ginger tea (1" crushed slices) daily

I would be taking NAC but ran out and I will run out of all other supplements soon, will have to depend on diet alone. I am unable to work (I am an independent artist) so income is zero.

What am I doing right or wrong - or not enough/too much? Do you think the arthritis & hair loss is related? If I have to depend on diet alone, what are my best options? I would sure like to get back to painting and earning money!

Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)

I would seriously consider taking 400mg. of Cayenne the hotter the better along with the diet that you are already doing, and a couple of if not three cloves of raw garlic a day. If this works you should see a dramatic improvement in about a week. Garlic protects against lung cancer and the latest on cayenne is that it causes cancer cells to commit suicide. The phlegm should start coming off the lungs fairly quickly. Also watch out for lead glazes if you're an artist, a friend used to mix them in a cup then wash the cup out and have their tea in it. She got similar symptoms.

Replied by Julie B.R.
(Phoenix, Az)

Thank you, Gavin. I am already taking 500mg cayenne powder twice a day (per my original post, mixing it with the sodium ascorbate - 1 tsp of cayenne powder = 2000mg). So, that's good.

I also eat raw garlic regularly but not as much as you are recommending. Will increase my intake of that as well. Thank you.

I haven't done any ceramic artwork in 15 years but I do work with soft pastels and that probably doesn't help. :-( My living room is my studio, so I'm sure the dust floats around constantly. Nothing I can do about that at the moment, unfortunately. Cooler weather is coming here, so I am airing out as often as possible these days.

My father (not related to me, thank goodness) died of lung cancer. He went the conventional route and died from the radiation. Docs said it was from all his work with canvas - had asbestos in it for years, and I was forced to work in his sweat shop as a teen. Another contributor, no doubt.

Thanks again, Gavin. I will report results after a week or so.

Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)

Good luck with that, Julie.. Stress is the worst thing for hair loss, .. Also hormone drops. Dipping the wet finger into the mule team borax and swishing it around in a glass of water, then drinking it, acts as a natural hormone replenishment if you are of a certain age as well. (boron) A lot of people over this way after the Christchurch earthquake are loosing their hair. But any stress out will help.

Replied by Maria
(Gippsland, Australia)

Hi Julie, To get the best out of your turmeric bring the water to the boil then add the turmeric and boil for a few mins. Also have some fat (butter or coconut oil) with it, a teaspoon will do, or take it with a meal. This way you get the water soluble as well as the fat soluble components out of it. We find a cheap way to have it is at meal times, we get a pkt of cheap frozen mixed veg and boil our serving serving size in a small amount of water add the turmeric (once it has started to boil) as the water reduces to almost nothing add sea salt and butter. With the ginger do Gavin's great suggestion of soaking it overnight first before heating. Plantain is good for lungs and is usually growing as a weed, if so you could add that and thyme to the dandelion tea.

Iodine would be worth looking at as it can remove heavy metals, if you have lugol's you could take it internally or the cheaper iodine could be used in the painted on method. Don't throw the lemon pith out as it is full of bioflavinoids so eat it when you next eat. I would also keep up with the boron (as recommended here on EC 4 days on 3 days off) and magnesium as mag is involved with so many proccesses in the body.

Dr. Johanna Budwig's cottage cheese with flax seed oil could form part of your diet and as a bonus may work on the cancer. One essential point with it is to mix them with a blender to a mayonnaise consistency. Essiac tea would be very worthwhile if you were able to get it.

Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)

Oh and sorry I forgot to mention this one as well.. Having been a smoker all your life.. you have to remember that you have been getting good amounts of B3, from the nicotine. Then getting a scare and stopping also means you are probably having B3 deficiency.. Which can give a lot of the symptoms you have decribed. If you take the raw garlic and smoke about five rollups a day, it won't do any harm. But if you check out B3 deficiency, you might have an answer.

Replied by Julie B. R.
(Phoenix, Az)

Gavin - Thanks again. Will go back to the borax (still have a box). I have been super-stressed the past 3-4 years. Have to say, though, that it was not helping with the hair loss using either of Ted's remedies (oral or on hair). Thanks for the tip on the B3 - will stay vigilant.

Maria - Thank you. I do sometimes do the boiled version of turmeric, will try to be more patient and do it more often -- and will try adding coconut oil as well. Currently taking dandelion root capsules, not tea, but will try to find a way to do the plantain & thyme. Can't afford iodine, but I had some Betadine lying around. Tried painting that on my scalp a few times (left overnight or longer) but it didn't stop the hair loss. May try again. Getting desperate (and balder). Magnesium also not in the budget so I try to get it and manganese in my puny diet. Sunflower seeds & romaine lettuce are my main sources for those. Same budget problems with flaxseed oil & essiac tea. :-( I've read about the Budwig diet but I just will not go near dairy anyway. I'm a vegan.

Forgot to mention I am also taking 2-3 tsp/day of organic gluten-free cornmeal (per Ted's recommendation for cancer/anti-fungal).

Replied by Maria
(Gippsland, Australia)

Hi Julie, I nearly added Vit B's to my post, if you are under extra stress you need a good supply of B's. Not sure if you pre soak your nuts and seeds but it is worthwhile doing so. Soak times vary from 6-12 hrs, generally 6-8 for seeds. Doing this increases the nutrition dramatically and you tend to eat fewer. Fermented foods are a good source of Bs and pro-biotics, using recipes off the net you could make sauerkraut. Rejuvalac is also a source of Bs and pro-biotics. It is usually recommended to throw the wheat/rice away after the 2nd or 3rd batch but some people because of finances do 4 or 5 batches although they are much weaker.

Epsom salts is a very economical form of magnesium. I have read that 1 teaspoon contains approx 500mg of Magnesium so even 1/2 a teaspoon a day is about 250mg. With the iodine I would just paint a small patch on the sole of one foot. All the best.

Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)

Vegan!!? Then definitely, a B-12 alert as well.

Replied by Linda
(York County, Southern Maine)

Julie, please email your mailing address to me at tarb58(at) I have some Essiac tea herbs I will send to you if you will use them. I got them for my sister, but she was too sick & ran out of time to take full advantage; the herbs have been in my freezer for a little over a year so I think they'll still be fine - anyone here have thoughts on that? I have enough for two full batches & am happy to send it to you. Best, Linda

Replied by Carole

So d3? I understand 5,000 IU recommended but so 10,000 was recommended to daughter who is breastfeeding to help vitamin d3 levels for baby.

Multiple Remedies
Posted by Jamescollier (Tucson, Arizona, Usa) on 03/26/2010
4 out of 5 stars

First I want to say this is the only post I am going to post here as being a cancer victim (through spouse) I had way to much information to have to read.

To make a long story not so long. I researched this site a couple years ago, instituted some therapies here. My wife had outlived her prognosis of Adenocarcinoma of the lung,...she was non smoker. Two years past first prognosis, but then she got worse.

I have college education so when i researched I read way too much, and was so overwhelmed by testimonial crap that I could not make an intelligent decision on natural medicine and could not afford natural paths. Everybody has a rememdy! Can't institute it all. So, logic and common sense dictated to me... as my wife had outlived her prognosis,.. two years,..until the cancer changed it's metabolic patterns and geared up again.

My Mom went through chemo and i got to watch her die. My wife, not to be,... yet. Her cancer grew very slowly, did not spread through venous system,.. over two years though, lymphatic involvement was extensive on that fateful day our doctor cried. Doctors stated chemo would give her three more months,... maybe? We were devasted and my in laws said I killed their daughter. Ha!

That was over a year ago, now she is three years past original, and 7 months past hospice recommedation! I broke down and sought guidance through non profit research firm which basically adopted and common sense approach to this disease. Believe it or not, it involved chemo because my in laws claimed I was sentencing her to death by not gong through it, but it was interval and not intravenous chemo which has higher efficacy and lower side affects.

Strategy: Utilize every tool in layed fashion not fragmented nor scattered. "Complimentary" our cancer consultant stated chemo might be able to be logically applied but not until we reached some basic goals. Lowered blood sugar, alkaline ph, and detox plus immune stimulants.

Diet: Atkins-like,.... using organic dairy, produce,and meats, targetting blood sugars to be below 80. This lowers blood sugars raises tri-glycerides in blood stream. Anyone here think cancer burns fat for energy, (lactic acid is the only fatty acid it burns.)

Now my alternatives became more selective now with a common sense approach, I had direction after already using various protocols,...difference now those things that support lower glucose improved fat metabolism were in and high oxygen high alkalinity were in. Next, (at the same time) we sought to exploit the respiratory preferences of cancer,...anaerobic metabolism! Now oxygen therapies were in but our cancer advisor showed us studies that proved oxygen doesn't even enter cancer cells unless their is a ph and polarity shift inside. This is done with alkaline salts. Very convincing phosflourescent and radio frequency testing to prove this also proved sodium is pumped out, enters poorly, calcium isn't pumped out, enters only when cancer reaches metabolic peaks. Bicarbonates are ok for neturalizing lactic acid and uric acid that leaks into cellular spaces, phew,...less pain,... but I had been using this baking soda for two years, and is probably why it never spread venously and she outlived her prognosis until that horrible doctors visit. So, yes baking soda ok! But wasn't the magic bullet but better than traditional medicine,...what a brain number that is that baking soda was better than modern science!

So we then used intense alkalinization using very heavy buffers that were very harsh and alkaline, very dangerous stuff if not instituted correctly. Also, DMSO- cant say enough about this, if you don't put a few drops in your supplements, are just plain naive, foolish, haven't read enough research yet. In the End, we layered alkaline, oxygen, blood sugar strategies all at once, immune boosted and detoxed using chlorophyll, and then went in for chemo,.....and my wife breezed through, although first two were rough, but they all got easier. (Thank you dmso and chlorophyll)

I demanded markers and current baseline pet scans right before chemo and already the markers were down and her uric acid, lactic acid were up, (indicating aptopsis was happening) her pain had already gone away.

Conclusion: My wife looks as good today as the day I married her! She is willing to send her scans and markers to anyone who doubts this story and we will discuss with anyone our situation,...after all, today she is cancer free after considering hospice and planning her will. My crying doctor was in denial until last update. You will be happy to know that Half of what we instituted can be found on,... which just proves that this stuff has anti-cancer activity. The trick is to combine therapies that have logical applications toward cancers basic processes.

If a disease loves glucose,... give it fats and triglycerides and then deprive it's glucose anyway you can. Inhibbit fermentation anyway you can, which by the way, acetate, malic acid in apple cider vinegar can do,...the trick is to dose up on the malic acid as this concentration is too low in ACV. We still used baking soda to acitivate these acids and anti oxidants in ACV.

Jeeees! Common sense peopl! Read a little then,... if a disease ferements glucose, restrict its glucsose, and inhibbits ability to ferement what glucose there is. If a disease hates oxygen,....give it oxygen but don't make that one common FATAL mistake about oxygen therapies,... for all the oxygen in the world means little if the oxygen can't enter cancer cell and can't be burned!! No Brainer there!

Thank you to Ted, we believe your protocols got my wife through first two years of her death sentence. We just needed to learn how to support them better. Once chemo was started cancers were completely unable to detoxify themselves and were unable to become resistant to the chemo like all cancers do after the first dose. Phew, the in laws stated I was killing her by delaying chemo, they don't have too much to say any longer,....and I got my wife back....thanks again Ted.


Replied by Jamescollier
(Tucson, Arizona)

Contact information -- I forgot to give my phone to those wanting pet scans and blood work,

602 754 1584

Replied by Doug
(Clinton, Ontario)

To Jamescollier: I'm glad to hear that your wife is doing great, that is an awesome thing you did for her.

What did you mean when you said that that Oxygen does no good if it can't enter the cells? What prevents it and what can one do to help it get through? I am doing h202 and am now wondering if it is getting into my cells.

Thanks, Doug

Replied by Vivi
(Atlanta, Ga)

James- my husband has high blood pressure and he is type 2 diabetic. In last 3, 4 years his diet is mainly protein with some vegetables and fruits to keep blood glucose at low level, which on average in the morning is 90-100. Since august he lost apatite, cannot have BM for 4, 5 days, has a lot abdominal pain, and lost over 20lb during last month. Last week he was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. I am spending a lot of time to read EC forum, Ted's recommendations, follow many links cancer related, so much to research. He is already on protein diet, which is acidic, and based on Ted's recommendations and your experience, he needs to alkaline to prevent cancer fermentation.

Can you please help me, how much of malic acid did you use and how often? Did you use combination of baking soda and malic acid? For oxygenation it was recommended to his to use about 5grams of buffered vit C. Can you please share more information about the preparation for chemo? My email is irahat4atyahoodotcom. Big thanks James

Replied by Nv

James, can you explain more in detail what you used and exact dosage you gave to your wife? Thank you.

Replied by Elaine
(Durban, South Africa)

Hi what would you suggest for stage 4 secondary lung cancer. My father is struggling in alot of pain. His lungs very sore. They said there is nothing he can do. He to weak for chemo radiation. They do give him the chemo tablets. Please we will try anything to ease the pain. To give him a few more years.

Replied by Jim


Look up the Budwig Protocol; then follow it to a "T". Read the testimonials throughout the web.

Replied by Timh
2083 posts

Soak a cotton washcloth with Epsom Salts and warm water, and place directly over affected area several times daily.

After several days of the above try vaporizing or breathing the vapors of natural agents like Tea Tree Oil, Camphor, Eucalyptus.

Replied by Amelia's

Hi, it has been 6 years since r Wife got cancer. How has she been? My mum just got diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer. It has spread to her brain. She's still active but once on the geotrif medicine, she becomes frail and side effects is not pleasant. Could u share with me on what complementary treatments shld I do on her so as to prolong lifespan??

Replied by David

One of the best posts I've seen, a remarkable story. Congratulations. Unfortunately, it is useless until you layout explicit directions -----what, how often, how much. If you will do that, you will be helping so many people. Thanks, David

Replied by Laura

“... for all the oxygen in the world means little if the oxygen can't enter cancer cell and can't be burned!! No Brainer there! ”

Do you think JamesCollier was referencing the DMSO here in 2010?

Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)

The mole rat is the only mammal presently known not to get cancer.. This is due to a gene p16.. This gene stops cells going into the prolific growth mode. In fact its almost impossible to grow mole rat cells in the lab. The funny thing is that garlic also slows down cell growth. It's been proven that regular garlic ingestion protects against bowel and lung cancer.. It also cleans heavy metals from environmental polution from the body this is proven.. But it's only down in folk medicine land that these things will be aired. Simply because you can't patent a vegetable and make money out of it.

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