Medical Alerts

| Modified on Jun 22, 2022
Zika Virus
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile , Tn) on 02/03/2016

HI YA'LL, , , , , , , , know you have been following the Chipolte restaurant saga. The CDC can find no e -coli in their foods. Mike Adams suspects that they are being sabotaged by the bio companies because they went to "no GMO foods" and even had in your face advertisements like, " GOMer it ".

Next we have the Zika virus which was a project of the wealthy elites. They released these mosquitoes in Brazil. This just happens to be the site of this summer's Olympics where people from all over the world will be there to take this virus back home. Is this just happen stance?

Here is the health ranger, Mike Adams and his take on this.


Energy Drinks
Posted by Art (California ) on 05/17/2017 1390 posts


I have had a few energy drinks over time and I would tend to agree with you. I think some people are very sensitive to some of the ingredients in energy drinks and this is something you might not realize until it happens to you.

I am a grown man and weigh 180 lbs. I had never had a problem with the energy drinks I had tried, but I decided to try a new one that I had not seen before. It came in a large 16 ounce aluminum can and it tasted like a fruit punch soda. I had purchased 6 to give it a try and had been drinking them more as an experiment to see if it was any different than others I had tried before. I will say that it had the best taste of all I had tried before, but on my 4th can, my heart started racing and I felt light headed and slightly dizzy all at the same time. I drank these 4 cans days apart from each other over a two week period. The first three were no problem, but the fourth one did scare me as I had not had that reaction before. I didn't drink the last two. Imo, not all of these energy drinks are the same, so you can't assume that just because you have had energy drinks before without a problem, that it will be that way for every energy drink out there. Btw, I noticed that I stopped seeing that particular energy drink shortly after that incident.

I think parents should pay close attention to their children when it comes to consumption of energy drinks.


Moldy Coffee Imports
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn) on 04/03/2017

HI U GOOD PEOPLE DOIN,,,,,, may have to walk my rant back as our politicians do when they get caught with their britches down. On further inquiry it appears that we are on our own, just like when we buy peanuts. The situation is far more complex than I realized, but I did learn that caffeine itself prevents mold. So the literature says you are better off with full caffeine coffee as far as mold is concerned.

I would apologize for stirring the pot, but sometimes you 'bout asleep and need a jolt. The situation still bothers me. Not to worry as we have robots replacing us and the only way us humans will exist is to live like our Great, Great, Gand Paw did, and that is off the land.

ATS ====ORH====

Moldy Coffee Imports
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn) on 04/10/2017


HI BIRDS DOIN,,,,,,,,,, have used this organic coffee before, but it was for coffee enema's because you need organic for that deal. After much study, it seems that you need to drink good coffee also....... least the mycotoxins will consume you. They sent a bunch of South Georgia folks to the pen a few years back for selling moldy peanuts, but I've never heard of our Gov going after the moldy coffee people. Guess they just go after Redneck farmers.

Anyways, we have decided to pay the price and buy Life Extension's organic whole coffee beans. They can be bought on Amazon and others, but the best price is from Life Extension. Will do whole beans because the smaller any product is, the faster it deteriorates .

Hope I've not violated any of EC's rules......... far be it from me to violate a rule. I try to live at the foot of the cross. Just hope my ditty has sparked an electron or two in your grey matter.

ATS ======ORH=======

Tattoo Toxins
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn.) on 07/13/2016

HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN,,,,,,,,,,,,, oldest granddaughter visited us last week. She is almost 24 and has been from can to can't. She had a basketball scholarship to a college and quit after one year. She is the typical millennial. When in HS she got a tattoo and that caused me grief, but I let is pass. On this visit she went down our water slide as she did 20 years ago. What I learned is that now she has numerous tattoos. We discussed the toxins in tattoos and I cautioned her to not get any more.

When she left, I researched the toxin effect of tattoos. It is not good.

I know we were dumb when young, but I don't think we were as dumb as what's now coming down the pike.

============= ORH ===========

GMO Sugar
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn) on 09/16/2016


GUESSS ALL HAVE SEEN THE HEADLINES............... no doubt GMO's are dangerous to your health so it does not matter what label they come under. All cotton is GMO so when you buy vegetable oil, you are using 100% GMO because all vegetable oil is from the cotton seed. If you eat any soy then it's all GMO, along with corn. All remember my spat with Walmart? Guess what........ they now have their own brand as Pure Cane Sugar. Beet sugar is 100 % GMO. Sometimes you have to show your ass to change things. This along with other things I stress about our little farm. I'll be 80 in December. Ya'll follow my saga and see how long I live. 78 is the norm for men. If I keep on keeping on....... then monkey see, monkey do. Maybe you need to plant your own little garden and put EC out of business.

Been on SGI beach for a week and head back to the hills of Tenn tomorrow. That means peanuts need to be pulled and dried, figs, apples and muscadines are all loaded and must be addressed. Will stop in at a farm in Ga and buy a bushel of peanuts to can. That will last us about a year. If you have never eaten boiled peanuts then you have missed some good eating. While on the Gulf, we bought 11 # of shrimp and froze. That will last us about half a year, but we have a January Gulf trip planned and will restock again.

With a little effort, you don't have to eat so much processed food. =======ORH===================

Moldy Coffee Imports
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn) on 04/02/2017

HI U GOOD PEOPLE DOIN,,,,,, most on EC work their tales off to try and stay healthy while our U. S. government allows the moldy coffee to come in. I just learned this today and am pissed. So far I've contacted Life Extension and Community Coffee and ask them to send me a test of their coffee. Will not ask a test from the big boys because the are the guilty parties. It's the $ they are interested in. Moldy is cheaper.

This makes me want to cry. I try my best to eat right, only to be done in by our corrupt government. Would grow my own coffee if I could. I learned this today watching a Dr. Marcola U Tube interview.

Excuse my rant, but that's the way I am ......


GMO Sugar
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn.) on 07/11/2016

HI U GOD FEARING FOLKS DOIN,,,,,,,,,,, The senate just passed a bill prohibits labeling food products that contain GMO's. I just got off the phone blistering my Tenn Senator Corker's office for voting for this bill. Here is what Mike Adams says about the bill.

There is a reason we raise our own vegetables and eat very little processed food. You may get tired of my garden stories and pictures but you need to do the same for your own health. If you ate like yo great grand paw, EC would not exist.


Moldy Coffee Imports
Posted by Ian Noelle (Franklin, Tn) on 04/03/2017

Hey, Robert Henry. Perhaps you could find a local farmer who roasts coffee beans obtained from a clean, mold-free source. I've got one here in middle Tennessee that I meet up with once a week. Try asking around at your farmer's markets. Keep your hand to the plow and don't give up! You are an inspiration.

GMO Sugar
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn.) on 05/27/2016

HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

My tractor driver was putting up cherry jelly and I reacted to the sugar she was using. It said Pure Sugar. In my 79 years I would swear the label was always Pure Cane Sugar. I then read the label and all it said was that it was sugar. I called the company and from the bar code they told me that this sugar was a mixture of Cane and Beets. Cane sugar is not GMO, but Beet Sugar is. All on EC understand GMO's and the immune problems they cause with your gut flora.

We will no longer buy any food product with this company's label. My suggestion is to buy only sugar that is labeled organic or Pure Cane Sugar. That way you avoid the GMO Beet Sugar and health problems.

No GMO seeds or plants are allowed in the EU, but Bayer, a German company, is trying to buy out Monsanto. Got some stuff going on.

ATS ========ORH===============

Energy Drinks
Posted by June Bug (Maryland) on 05/17/2017

When I was a teenager many years ago, I bought a pack of white caffeinated pills at the grocery store (snuck them into my mother's cart). I think they were called STAY AWAKE. Something like that. I took just one pill in the morning before high school and had the worst day of my life. I thought I was going to have a heart attack. I went to the nurses station in my school. It was very scary. Since then I stay away from all things that come in a packet or small bottle that has high doses of caffeine. Like the 5 hour energy vials you see sold in gas stations. From personal experience I can tell you that children should NOT consume that much caffeine. It is a danger. Poor boy.

GMO Sugar
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn.) on 05/27/2016

HI U GOD FEARING PEOPLE DOIN,,,,,, got a good ATS to tell. Maybe most of you are aware of this scam, but I was not. We try to diligently avoid GMO's . Today, I got my come uppence.

We went across the dam to buy a flat of strawberries to freeze and put up a batch of cherry jelly. I was helping my Tractor Driver as best a man can in the kitchen.

Anyway, she brought out a Walmart bag of sugar. It said on the bag, Pure Sugar. That seemed strange because all my life I remember the term "Pure Cane Sugar". I read the nutrition label and it only said " sugar". As all know I's SJS, so my mind got to reeling and I called Walmart in Arkansas to make sure there is no GMO beet sugar in this bag.

The lady was very nice and helpful. She said she would have to look up the code on the side of the bag. I gave her the code and she said the sugar was from both cane and beets. I then told her that we had shopped Walmart for 50 years and quit buying their meat and produce several years ago. Now we would stop buying any eatable product made for Walmart. I told her that she was just the messenger and I would give her an excellent for her help.

I then e mailed Walmart corporate and told them the same. This was not just a happenstance. This was contrived to deceive. If they try to deceive you once, then that is their modus operandi. Do me once.... shame on you. Do me twice ........ shame on me.

I then discussed this with my Tractor Driver. She is to no longer try to save money on food that we eat. She is to shop for quality only. She was raised up humble and that will be a change for her.

We will no longer buy any food product with this company's label. My suggestion is to buy only sugar that is labeled organic or Pure Cane Sugar. That way you avoid the GMO Beet Sugar and health problems.

No GMO seeds or plants are allowed in the EU, but Bayer, a German company, is trying to buy out Monsanto. Got some stuff going on.


Posted by Betty (CA) on 11/17/2021

I also read on a news site possible smallpox vials have been found at a lab in PA along with potential anti-dote vials. I need to dig in more about this. The CDC has confiscated the vials for further investigation. Only 2 places in the world are supposed to have it and keep it contained, CDC Atlanta and Russia.

You may be onto something to be prepared possibly. We need to do our research just like with this pandemic.

Energy Drinks
Posted by Diane (Southern Ca.) on 05/17/2017

"Energy drinks and whiskey"

I was checking out at a local store when a lady working there told me that she was stressed out.

I asked her why and she said her family had to rush her 23 year old grandson to the emergency room due to a racing irregular heart beat! Seems he was told he could get a bigger high drinking Whiskey with an energy drink! Well this family has had to rush him to the emergency room more than once!

What the doctors want to do is use a defibrillator (called a counter shock) to bring his heart back to normal. The young man and his family were afraid to do this. I don't know what happened to this man and the problem, but don't mix energy drinks with alcohol. You may never be the same again.

Energy Drinks
Posted by Hisjewel (America, New York) on 05/20/2017

Hi Mama to Many and EC,

We Mama's are watchful, and we work hard to raise happy, healthy children.

If I thought anything might hurt my daughter I would not let her have it. But I went to sleep on the energy drink. My daughter told me how good they were for her. And just accepted it.

She loved the company she bought from so well she talked my mother into trying it. My mother tried it one time and said, "it didn't give me any energy" and never tried it again. However my daughter continued get at least one a day these were her college years (she takes breaks). One day she came home and said, today when I had my energy drink my heart started beating real fast. This was the same brand she had always bought.

Long story short, that sudden racing heart cured her of drinking energy drinks. I was no help to her, because I did know the danger of excess caffeine. She was about 28, my mom was about 78 and both of them thought they were grown, so they may not have listened to me anyway, but I could have warned them in love like mothers do.

Though things affect us differently, It's just good to know what to watch out for.

Thanks Mama,


GMO Sugar
Posted by Cindy (Illinois, Usa) on 07/13/2016 337 posts

Worrying about things like this is not good for your HEALTH. Instead of seeing it as "bad", try to see the good in it. What these kinds of things are doing is forcing people to become more aware and more self-reliant and this is a GOOD thing because the world's economy is collapsing under its own weight which means it will HAVE to be replaced with something else and these shenanigans are HELPING to propagate ideas about better ways of doing things. Without all of this rigmarole, a sudden collapse would be devastating but BECAUSE they're playing this sort of sneaky game, people are exploring other ways of doing things which is going to make the transition - when it DOES come - a WHOLE lot easier.

Zika Virus
Posted by Timh (Ky) on 02/12/2016 2075 posts


It is clear planet earth has a human population density problem, unfortunately there isn't much money to be made in the department of prevention, so instead we get radical, extreme, and profit driven medicine that is, like the article suggest, shallow on objective science.

Maybe you have "lived & learned" your way up to the cure for your back, and like myself so many times, wish I had the smarts to have learned early on instead of latter.

Maybe it's not too late for healing that you will be able to have a bountiful garden this yr. And as for the minerals we don't get from especially commercial big ag, last yr I sprinkled some Leonardite powder over those bald patches in the yard and it done them well enough to mention. Leonardite is a full spectrum mineral from natural deposits carefully mined and pulverized to a very fine "water flowable" powder. Perhaps you already use advanced fertilizers I don't know, but it is worth mentioning for any gardener for getting high levels of minerals in the crops. I use these minerals orally and in foot & whole body baths as a more cost effective means in comparison to otc Ionic Trace Mineral tabs or caps.

Maybe one day I will get well enough to garden, or maybe take a ride down to the ORH place and offer up my services and ask no more than to be in your & wifey's good company and hospitality, and maybe, if I'm lucky, fill the trunk of my car up with good organic veggies that are so rare on my table. When able, I do go down to our local Mennonite Community for fresh veggies. What fine examples of good faith-filled and strong family life plus the sustainable farming practices. Driving down the road and looking over those immaculate gardens and orchards is a real pleasure. And the womens make up lots of breads, jams, and such for retail. In late autumn they cook down large quantities of the good Blackstrap Molasses so often mentioned & used here on E.C.

Medical Alerts
Posted by Gwormwood (UK) on 11/19/2021

Sarapin is used medically for pain and other things, from sarracena purpurea (pitcher plant). Traditionally used for smallpox, research has confirmed this. Other than by injection for horses, it seems to be hard to source though.

Also I've read that wormwood is what ivermectin is made from, not researched this yet.

Grapefruit Contra-Indications
Posted by Michael (New Zealand) on 12/13/2021
5 out of 5 stars

Hi there,

The following is an interesting guide by the BBC on the history and possible contra-indications associated with eating Grapefruit if you are on certain medications.

Some of these have been discussed previously on Earth Clinic.


Posted by ShawnMorris (Houston, Texas ) on 11/14/2021

It is my understanding that not 1 person under the age of 30 has any immunity toward smallpox. Is there a protocol to help protect against smallpox, specifically? I find it alarming that several prominent people have been referring to smallpox as an example of future "pandemics".

Moldy Coffee Imports
Posted by Janet (In) on 04/03/2017

Robert Henry I live and breathe mold education. I belong to facebook groups. They will make your hair stand on end.

I have been referred to by moderators and administrators as many things. "Watch taking advice from people you would deem...The crazy witch that lives down the street" my personal favorite.

At least you can fix your coffee issues pretty simply, I think. It probably is not the Mercola way. Yet it seems pretty satisfactory for home purposes.

Run vinegar through your machine. Then run a 5% solution through of white ammonia and water. Then a water run through. Then my coffee water or my completed pot of coffee ( in the case of a Bunn coffee pot) gets 1 scant drop of white ammonia. I used to make Teds ammonium chloride, but I found a clean, extra other chemicals, free brand here.

I am on the floor from any mold exposure and must be diligent. The coffee machine itself can develop mold. Kureig (sp) is out completely. They have opened enough of them to lambasting amounts of mold after use.

We are a 3 shift family of six. Coffee goes on 24 hours a day. Not all the family has my mold problems. We all drink it. I based it on Teds internal mold remedies. Janet

Supplement Alerts
Posted by Cindy (Illinois, Usa) on 07/26/2016 337 posts

Just a notice that some quite trusted "natural" brands for herbs and herbal preparations are now partnered with or have actually been purchased by pharmaceutical companies. Pay attention! Make your own stuff when you can!

GMO Sugar
Posted by Rsw (Oh) on 07/12/2016

Again we are shown that our so called "representatives" should be collecting their paychecks from Monsanto or any one of the thousands of corporations that work against us, than from the people of America. Do we actually have any true representative government anymore when those that supposedly uphold our wishes can be bought by anyone with deep pockets? Call your Senators now and let them know you have a right to know what is in our food.

Health Warnings
Posted by Michael (New Zealand) on 06/21/2022
5 out of 5 stars

Hello Earth Clinic Editors,

I am wondering if it would be a good idea to have a Dedicated Section of WARNINGS about certain substances that could cause Health Problems in (some OR all) people.

For example, under MSG as a title one could list:

"Can cause Heart Rate Accelerations, High Blood Pressure or Palpitations in some people". They would need to avoid eating foods prepared using MSG, especially in restaurants, where they may be blissfully unaware of the preparation techniques possibly?

There could be many more entries other than the above - quite interesting proposition I would have thought?:-

2) Mushroom OR Toadstool?? Identification issues for the unwary!

3) Rhubarb Leaves - can they be safely composted?

4) Wear a mask when composting to avoid inhaling fungi etc

etc. etc.........

Just an idea for you to ponder upon!

This would aid poster investigations.

Always happy to help!


Michael from Down Under

EC: Hi Michael,

Thank you for your feedback! We already have a medication side effects page, a medical alerts page (where we have put this post), and an MSG side effects page where we put things like that. 

Energy Drinks
Posted by Mama To Many (Tn) on 05/17/2017

Dear all,

Another death from energy drinks.

It is sad that another young life is gone because of an overdose of caffeine.

Please be careful with caffeine consumption. Just because you can buy something anywhere does not mean it is safe.

~Mama to Many~

Energy Drinks
Posted by Timh (Ky) on 05/17/2017 2075 posts

~Mama to Many~

I will take the risk of criticizing your post which caught me as suspicious first because it's an article/propaganda from the mainstream big corp, big gov run media dinosaur NBC.

Let me back up a bit and first say that in today's information age of global proportions, it is very important to not subscribe to "general" info fit for the masses. The liberal acceptance may be ok for many, but for the unfortunate few, like this youth, it's tragic. I am still alive after a series of misfortunes do to many factors but mostly because of being very specific in terms of identifying cause & effect. So, to eliminate any error, one must identify the problem exactly and apply a cure exactly, which is what I must always do for myself and what I do here on E.C. for others.

Case-in-point, concerning this lad, what strikes me first as a possible major culprit --Toxic Vaccines. Add on a bad modern diet of adulterated foods, fluoridated water, plus the caffeine and boom, he's gone. Because of "patient confidentiality" we don't know if he was taking any otc or rx drugs. It is very common for many kids to take multiple rx which combined with the above danger items, is like a walking timebomb (cardiac arrest).

I cannot, for one minute, believe this lad was otherwise a very healthy condition. Check out Mike Adams the Health Ranger, broadcast or archives and you will soon agree on my observation. There is way to much going on beneath the surface of every persons life to make a general and easily false assumption.

Now for the cure exactly yet generally. Good, conservative parenting, good, conservative diet & lifestyle. Moderation in all things.

Back in my adolescent days (1970's) with some friends feeling very frolic and wanting to go do anything with extreme excitability of any 16 yr old, and somebody doled out those "yellow jackets" otc caffeine pills, we make it to the theater and tried to watch a movie but my friend took way too many pills and was "freaking out" so we had to leave and did the best we could for him for a few hrs until he was ready to go home again, but still had to deal with parents that didn't know what to do for him or understand the situation. I would guess he took upwards of 1 or more grams of caffeine but didn't have a heart attack and die, but did undergo a major panic attack which lasted several hrs and soon completely recovered. Conclusion, he was generally a healthy individual without major preexisting conditions, unlike the boy, IMHO, in this report.

Moldy Coffee Imports
Posted by Barbara (Aiken, South Carolina) on 04/12/2017 23 posts

Thanks, Robert Henry. This topic almost made me give up coffee. It's kind of like picking weevils out of flour I guess, but at least you don't eat the weevils.

GMO Sugar
Posted by Timh (Ky) on 07/12/2016 2075 posts

"that's the power of money - paper blood " E.L.P.

Zika Virus
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn) on 02/04/2016

HI U JAN, , , , , , , , I don't know squat, I just read and think critically. That is not good for your health because the folks that live in LaLa land are far happier and live longer. I am a negative person which means that I know a fraud before any one else does. I got this way by my life's experience.

I can be a delightful person, but I have to work at it. Just remember that my political posts on this site are from what I have studied and I think folks truly need to know. Sometimes I'm wrong, but not often.

Just know that I'm an educated Redneck and that makes me spooky. The guy who filled up our LP tank yesterday asked me how I know all this stuff. I told him that I constantly read. It went over his head. That is my admonition to the EC folks. Read and you won't need to ask so many simple questions.

Out of spit. ======ORH=======

Zika Virus
Posted by Green Augustine (Mold, Denbighshire) on 02/06/2016 41 posts

Thank you for the link about Zika. As you say, we have no idea if it's just another big business scam. But in 2002 to 2007 I worked part time at a doctors' surgery here in North Wales and the nurses were constantly stocking up the medical fridges with 100s of vaccines for avian flu, pig flu or whatever was flavour of the month. Then we were told that by 2008 there would be a world pandemic of flu, far worse than the 1919 Spanish flu pandemic which is said to have killed millions. We're now in 2016, and still waiting for these catastrophes. Last year my husband was persuaded to have the winter flu jab. He got a persistent cough afterwards which lasted for six months. The same happened with a friend of ours. So keep taking the garlic, chilli, ginger, sambucca, lemon juice or whatever keeps you healthy. Since bacteria were the first life form after the Big Bang, it's pretty unlikely the big Pharmas will find anything to see them off! Thank goodness for sites like this.

Zika Virus
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile , Tn) on 02/11/2016

HI U NEIGHBOR TIMH, , , , , , , , , , , , things are getting more interesting concerning the Zika virus. Here is the latest. I won't comment as I got beat about the head and shoulders for that recently. TIMH, what I learned in 40 years in the paper industry is that you cannot spend your way out of a problem, you have to think your way out.

I now know where my back pain is coming after this morning's MRI read out. Will post that later as it makes me feel like a dunce. It is one of my Sheet + 2 = 8 things. Guess I need to work on my obvious dementia problem.

ATS ======ORH======

Medical Alerts
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn) on 07/12/2015

HI U REBEL, , , , , , , , , you on the right trail. A number of years ago when I had several skin cancers, I first bought Black Salve and it came from an American in South America. He spent 3 years in a US prison for selling Black Salve to cure skin cancer.

When he got out of prison, he moved and still sells Black Salve, but he is one bitter guy, because he thought he was doing folks good. He crossed Big Pharma and the Medical field.

At almost 79, I can tell you that I now live in a far different world than I was raised in. We never locked a door, nor packed guns. All had a knife that was never drawn on another human. It was used to peel an apple.

We are now in a totally corrupt society. The Lord's coming is neigh and like the Bible says , "THERE WILL BE GNASHING OF TEETH".

We had the Lord's Supper today at our little country church today and I did not partake. I have feelings that the Lord would punishment me if I did.

Lord hep us all to get right. =====ORH===

Medical Alerts
Posted by Betty (CA) on 11/18/2021

I haven't found the blood markers smallpox would affect yet.

We know its a virus, respiratory entry, inflammatory, Interferon blocking. I think Lugol's Iodine, high dose vitamin C and high D3 levels would help. I'm still researching though.

Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn Usa) on 04/29/2011

HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN, , , , , , Seeing lots of references to Dr. Mercola's writings. After much research, I caution you to go slow. First do his resume and the years experience don't add up. I admit he has some good folks on his show, but he also has on some sales folks. At 75, I have gardened my entire life. The video of his garden told me he needs to read another book or two.

ATS =====ROBERT HENRY=========

Vegetable Oils
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines)
1 out of 5 stars


Here is an extract from a long article laden with research data that runs through the history, corruption and propaganda that has been put out -- and is still being put out -- by sections of the US food vegetable oil industry as well as the FDA, concerning how healthy vegetable oils are for us in our diets. This extract, from a long article, is by Mrs Mary Enig, Phd, a famous researcher in nutrition. As Ted from Bangkok has already said, polyunsturated vegetable oils, whether chemically processed or not are simply not good for us. This extract also does not describe the effects of trans fats in margarine etc, but does describes the many other bad effects of especially rancid and oxidized vegetable oils:

Dangers of polyunsaturates(veg oils)

"The irony is that these trends have persisted concurrently with revelations about the dangers of polyunsaturates. Because polyunsaturates are highly subject to rancidity, they increase the bodyâ€TMs need for vitamin E and other antioxidants. Excess consumption of vegetable oils is especially damaging to the reproductive organs and the lungs—both of which are sites for huge increases in cancer in the US. In test animals, diets high in polyunsaturates from vegetable oils inhibit the ability to learn, especially under conditions of stress; they are toxic to the liver; they compromise the integrity of the immune system; they depress the mental and physical growth of infants; they increase levels of uric acid in the blood; they cause abnormal fatty acid profiles in the adipose tissues; they have been linked to mental decline and chromosomal damage; they accelerate aging. Excess consumption of polyunsaturates is associated with increasing rates of cancer, heart disease and weight gain; excess use of commercial vegetable oils interferes with the production of prostaglandins leading to an array of complaints ranging from autoimmune disease to PMS. Disruption of prostaglandin production leads to an increased tendency to form blood clots, and hence myocardial infarction, which has reached epidemic levels in America.

Vegetable oils are more toxic when heated. One study reported that polyunsaturates turn to varnish in the intestines. A study by a plastic surgeon found that women who consumed mostly vegetable oils had far more wrinkles than those who used traditional animal fats. A 1994 study appearing in the Lancet showed that almost three quarters of the fat in artery clogs is unsaturated. The “artery clogging” fats are not animal fats but vegetable oils.

Those who have most actively promoted the use of polyunsaturated vegetable oils as part of a Prudent Diet are well aware of their dangers. In 1971, William B. Kannel, former director of the Framingham study, warned against including too many polyunsaturates in the diet. A year earlier, Dr. William Connor of the American Heart Association issued a similar warning, and Frederick Stare reviewed an article which reported that the use of polyunsaturated oils caused an increase in breast tumors. And Kritchevsky, way back in 1969, discovered that the use of corn oil caused an increase in atherosclerosis.

Benefits of saturated fats

Foods containing trans fat sell because the American public is afraid of the alternative—saturated fats found in tallow, lard, butter, palm and coconut oil, fats traditionally used for frying and baking. Yet the scientific literature delineates a number of vital roles for dietary saturated fats—they enhance the immune system, are necessary for healthy bones, provide energy and structural integrity to the cells, protect the liver and enhance the bodyâ€TMs use of essential fatty acids. Stearic acid, found in beef tallow and butter, has cholesterol lowering properties and is a preferred food for the heart. As saturated fats are stable, they do not become rancid easily, do not call upon the bodyâ€TMs reserves of antioxidants, do not initiate cancer, do not irritate the artery walls.

Your body makes saturated fats, and your body makes cholesterol—about 2000 mg per day. In general, cholesterol that the average American absorbs from food amounts to about 100 mg per day. So, in theory, even reducing animal foods to zero will result in a mere 5% decrease in the total amount of cholesterol available to the blood and tissues. In practice, such a diet is likely to deprive the body of the substrates it needs to manufacture enough of this vital substance; for cholesterol, like saturated fats, stands unfairly accused. It acts as a precursor to vital corticosteroids, hormones that help us deal with stress and protect the body against heart disease and cancer; and to the sex hormones like androgen, testosterone, estrogen and progesterone; it is a precursor to vitamin D, a vital fat-soluble vitamin needed for healthy bones and nervous system, proper growth, mineral metabolism, muscle tone, insulin production, reproduction and immune system function; it is the precursor to bile salts, which are vital for digestion and assimilation of fats in the diet. Recent research shows that cholesterol acts as an antioxidant. This is the likely explanation for the fact that cholesterol levels go up with age. As an antioxidant, cholesterol protects us against free radical damage that leads to heart disease and cancer. Cholesterol is the bodyâ€TMs repair substance, manufactured in large amounts when the arteries are irritated or weak. Blaming heart disease on high serum cholesterol levels is like blaming firemen who have come to put out a fire for starting the blaze.

Cholesterol is needed for proper function of serotonin receptors in the brain. Serotonin is the body's natural "feel-good" chemical. This explains why low cholesterol levels have been linked to aggressive and violent behavior, depression and suicidal tendencies. Motherâ€TMs milk is especially rich in cholesterol and contains a special enzyme that helps the baby utilize this nutrient. Babies and children need cholesterol-rich foods throughout their growing years to ensure proper development of the brain and nervous system. Dietary cholesterol plays an important role in maintaining the health of the intestinal wall, which is why low-cholesterol vegetarian diets can lead to leaky gut syndrome and other intestinal disorders.

Animal foods containing saturated fat and cholesterol provide vital nutrients necessary for growth, energy and protection from degenerative disease. Like sex, animal fats are necessary for reproduction. Humans are drawn to both by powerful instincts. Suppression of natural appetites leads to weird nocturnal habits, fantasies, fetishes, bingeing and splurging.
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My own take on saturated fat intake is that since it is now all but impossible to guarantee that animal fats or meat sources used in our western diets like pork, beef and chicken can no longer be guaranteed to be grass fed, in their natural habitat and that their food and water comes from pollution free, unleached soils etc as was the case in the 19th century -- I would always therefore prefer virgin coconut oil as my favourite saturated oil source.

Moldy Coffee Imports
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile , Tn) on 04/05/2017

HI U GOOD PEOPLE DOIN,,,,,,, as all know I squeeze the pig until I get the last squeal. Well, I found a company that runs a rigorous mold test on their coffee beans. Some how or nother, I violated an EC rule because that post was not published. Not a deal. What I have learned is that you contact the individual coffee suppliers and they will produce that test or tell you to " Trust them". So we are where I know where to buy mold free coffee and you don't. That is called TOUGH SHIDSKEY. "Have a good day", which is Southern for ...... Go to............


EC: Hi ORH, you attached .pdfs to your previous post and they would not upload to our database. If you can turn them into .jpgs we can post them. Or send us a url to the .pdf.

Moldy Coffee Imports
Posted by Barbara (Aiken, South Carolina) on 04/11/2017 23 posts

Is this the coffee named Rich Rewards?

Moldy Coffee Imports
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile , Tn) on 04/11/2017

YEP, BARBARA, that's the one.


Lyme Disease
Posted by Rebel (Somewhere, Usa) on 02/10/2016

Just found this and thought some of you would be interested.

Zika Virus
Posted by Jan (California) on 02/04/2016
5 out of 5 stars

Robert Henry thanks for the heads up! I believe you and Mike Adams! I read that his website is one of the publications that really terrifies The Elite!

Just how evil can these people get? I tremble.

Preventive Health Site
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn) on 08/24/2015

HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN, , , , , , , , , , ,

Got some troubles and it's got me to thinking after reading Mark's post about Borax and it's benefits and tribulations. Folks come to this site to learn about specific solutions to their problems, but I got another idea. Why don't we all get together and inform healthy folks how to stay healthy and avoid these trials and tribulations. I have a few ideas and most of you do also. I have tried to do this with my garden posts. It all begins with what you eat.

We all know about ACV, Borax, H2O2, Colloidal Silver, Magnesium, Water, Sweat, Sleep, Alkaline, Exercise , Breathing, Lymph flow, Detoxing, Cleansing, Baking Soda , and many, many others that will avoid illness. Let's tell these stories.

I bet Sweet Thang, Deirdre, would jump on this with both feet. We need a health site for folks to inform their neighbors how to avoid all these ailments we constantly talk about. Do these things and stay healthy. Then if stuff happens, this site will help them. First, lets change our mission.

I say all this because I constantly try to get our kids and grand children to do things to avoid health problems. EC has not done that and I think it's time. Let's get this site into a pro-active mode instead of being re-active only.

I can tell you that Mama to Many tries hard to keep her kids healthy, as do all. We just need to change our priorities. I bet folks will buy in.

OUT OF SPIT =====ORH=========

Preventive Health Site
Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 08/25/2015

Good luck on this, ORH, but many of us have even family members who won't listen or try a "natural" remedy.

Preventive Health Site
Posted by Green Augustine (Mold, Denbighshire) on 08/26/2015 41 posts


Thats a great idea! It's all about education and knowledge but I guess the big Pharmas and food producers prefer us to be ignorant! I love reading - and came across Dr Franz Meyr, an Austrian doctor who died in 1965 and was really shocked at what he saw- doctors prescribing only for illness and never for good health. Here in Britain I believe medical students study 5 hours of nutrition in a 6 year course!!! Go figure as they say! In 'The Magnesium Miracle' by Dr Carolyn Dean, she quotes a speaker from the National Institute of Health - their " guidelines on RDA for nutrients is only to prevent deficiency diseases like scurvy etc and .... NIH has no interest in supplements for the prevention and treatment of disease. " Well, I guess that sort of says it all.

And it is sad to read some people on this site who want help for families and yet know the family will reject any non " medical" interventions however much positive evidence there is to support them. When I was at school back in the 60s, we had a 3 hour weekly lesson on what was called Domestic Science where we learnt all the different food categories as in protein, vitamins etc and which foods contained what. We also had to plan and cook a well balanced healthy and economical meal, usually 2 courses, every week which we then took home for our families. This programme lasted from when I was 11 to 16 years old so was a very good base knowledge and fired up my interest in food and nutrition, ( and later organic vegetable/ fruit gardening). But now that doesn't happen, they just have to learn to design a food poster or make a pizza with packaged food.

We have come too far from nature sadly but it sounds like you really love your garden and grow some interesting stuff! What do you do with the peanuts once you've boiled them?? Not that I can grow them here in the hills of beautiful North Wales, but I'm curious. I always reads your posts as you come across as really positive and I always end up smiling. So thanks for that. And I do hope your fight with your health goes well and you're winning! I think this site is brilliant and there are quite a few posts suggesting what has helped people stay healthy too. But so many people are frightened of challenging their doctor's ideas and, over here at least, few doctors are happy if you tell them what you've read or discovered that differs from the established theory about different ailments, they seem to prefer you to be dumb and compliant ( although some of them are open minded).

Are you suggesting that there could be a section in EC called something like " how to stay healthy" as well as all the help for ailments? I think so many people are confused by what's on sale in the supermarkets and touted as healthy when it's just processed junk But there are also lots of people now questioning what's being described as healthy and trying to learn what is. Let's hope that just continues to grow, like your peanuts:-}. Ps What is a patoot?

Posted by Timh (Ky, Usa) on 07/29/2015 2075 posts

Please support saying "no" to the dark act, which enables big agri to not label GMO foods.

Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile , Tn. ) on 07/29/2015

HI U TIMH, , , , , , , , , , , , , I applaud your endeavor, but if you have watched the videos that are exposing how ignorant the mileanials are ........ your campaign is without hope. That is the reason we raise a garden.

In 1981 I went to Mexico City to interview a company in which I would build a paper mill for them. We were met at the plane and went to an outdoor restaurant for a strawberry salad. It was great, but that night I experienced Montezuma's revenge. I was well the next day because my illness was due to using human waste on the strawberries. That is not the case with GMO's as you state. You will be sick for your entire life.

All the big farmers here in East Tenn raise GMO crops that they spray with Round-up before planting and on the crop to make it ripen all at once. Our rural electrical company is now spraying all right aways with Round-up. We used to catch many fish in front of our cabin. No more.

It truly is getting spooky. The creek at our farm no longer has fish in it due to herbicides sprayed on the farm lands. We are committing suicide. I wish I had the answer. I don't.