My English cocker spaniel has had sarcoptic mange since age 4 weeks but was diagnosed after 2 weeks when intensive treatment with Ivermectin was initiated. She improved but even after 3 weeks of treatment the mange proved stubborn. She's now 11 weeks old and is not being treated for mange as she needs to get her vaccinations and rabies shots. I tried the borax hydrogen peroxide treatment on her 3 days back. The next day I was surprised to see whitish bumps with scaly scabs on various parts of her body and she began to itch all over again. I gave her a second treatment today (3 days later) but am puzzled by what appears to be a recurrence of mange. Or does it get worse before it gets better? She seems to be losing hair all over again but in new places. She's on a vitamin and calcium supplement and also gets salmon oil but her coat is sparse and dull. I would appreciate any feedback.
Replied by Nh Gardener
Sanbornton, Nh, Usa
06/18/2012Posted by Carol (Dunnellon, Fla... Usa) on 06/06/2012
Mange on two baby boy's age 4 months.. 1st three check ups and puppy shots VETS said PERFECT coats, skin etc... Today got slammed with his response to what we thought was aggressive puppy play and an allergy to St Augustine Grass here in Fla.... HE SAID MANGE... I am 70 and I do not exactly understand your recipe (I DO WANT TO USE IT.. Based on all the positive feedback here I've read from so many... I WILL FIND THE INGREDIENTS you suggest, just please please please make the recipe easy for an old lady to understand... I know I took on a great responsability of 2 (not 1) puppy..... Could not help myself and I am not SORRY... Just need to know how to stop this diagnosis I got slammed with today out of the blue by the Doctor that charged me $111.00 and said this will BE A LONG TIME BEFORE THEY ARE BETTER and COSTLY unfortunately.... I wanted to die! Please respond.... They were fine until 3 weeks ago but, I can see this is moving rather quickly on their precious little bodies!!
PLEASE TED, , , RESPOND QUICKLY WITH THE MEASUREMENTS OF THE PEROXIDE-BORIC and or PEROXIDE and VINEGAR... OR BOTH that I can clearly understand.... Thank you, Carol or (itbegrandmaG(at)hotmail.comReplied by Nh Gardener
Sanbornton, Nh, Usa
06/19/2012Posted by Bam Bam's Mom (Millsboro, De, USA) on 05/27/2012
Our Bam Bam passed away yesterday with a long bout of Demodectic Mange. He was only 6 months old. We tried everything and at one time we thought we had it cured. He actually got hair back and played and was back to living but only a few weeks ago it came back with such a vengence that nothing was working. He passed away with us holding him. I will never forget this experience. NEVER. we tried everything. I hope anyone who has a puppy who has this to be prepared. WE MISS YOU OUR FRIEND OUR LITTLE LOVE IN YOUR SHORT LIFE. LAUGHTER HAS BEEN SILENCED FOR NOW. LOVE MOM AND DAD.Posted by Deanna (Millsboro, De Usa) on 03/29/2012
I have been treating bam bam for about a month now with the peroxide and borax treatment. He is doing great. I have cut back to only doing the treatments once a week now but he still gets flair ups (red bumps) when I do the treatments. It was great to finally see hair growing back. My question is how long do you do these treatments? How do you know the mites are gone. ThanksReplied by Diana
04/22/2012Posted by Marie (Luton, England) on 12/29/2011
My girl irish staffordshire bull terrier dog gave birth to 7 puppy's in june this year. We have sold 2 of the puppies- one red girl and one dark brindle girl, 4 of the puppies have demodex manage diagnosed by my vet. They have had 2 lots of bathing in the liquide prescribed by my vet, one of 2 of the puppies are clear now but one of the puppies that was badly infected has become ill and he was vomiting anything that he did eat. My vet has seen him and we thought as he was not eating that he may have eaten something that he shouldn't have he has had an x-ray but the vet couldn't find anything. He gave him a course of antibiotics just in case. The puppy has picked up but he is still not eating much, he is drinking a bit now so he's not dehydrated. He is still very active and looking interested in everything that is going on but still not eating much. I have tried offing rise and plain paster but he refuses it, I have tried the vet tin food but he has refused that too, and now we're trying wag dry food with chicken and veg. He is eating a bit of it and now his poo has gone runny so I've been giving him some cooked chicken and he has eaten this but it has still not put his poo back to normal.
My question is could the demodex mange be causing some other illness? Also he is very thin and this upsets me to see this as he was the biggest puppy, now he looks so thin and you can see his rib cage. Is there anything I can give him to get him to put some weight on and put his poo back to normal? Please help me I can't afford the vet bill at this time as I don't work and I have ill health. thank youReplied by Diana
04/22/2012Posted by Middlebunny (Jersey City, New Jersey, Usa) on 09/30/2011
I posted this under side effects earlier this month. Unfortunately, I received no replies so I'm reposting it here. I hope Ted or some other knowledgable Earthclinic visitor will read and offer some advice. Here's my situation:
My black cocker spaniel periodically breaks out in a rash. We thought it was an allergic reaction to the dog park but after reading these posts it seems like it might be mange or mites. His latest bout appears to be his worst so far. His vet previously rx'd a topical cleanser as well as Gentamicin Sulfacte Topical Spray. This seems to work; however, I decided that it might be more efficient to try Ted's mange cure to see if that helped.
I didn't bathe the dog in Ted's solution as he'd just gotten his hair done at the salon (who called and notified us of the rashes on his stomach which they thought were indicative of an allergy or staph infection). Instead, I mixed 150ml of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide solution with 300ml of distilled water then I mixed in 1 tablespoon of the borax (laundry cleaner). I put this all in a 500ml bottle and shook it until the borax had either mixed in or formed a solid mass that settled at the bottom of the bottle (I assumed the settlement was the portion that couldn't be dissolved). I then put the liquid in a spray bottle and sprayed the areas of his tummy which had the rash. I also sprayed some on his back and tried to push it through his hair without messing up his cute cocker spaniel hair cut. While the instructions recommend bathing in the solution once a week, I've sprayed the tummy area several times since the initial application as I thought that would be close to simulating a full body bath for the effected body parts. I've now begun to notice that my dog's black hair has been lightened as though the 1% hydrogen peroxide is having a bleaching effect. Is this typical? Is it because I've sprayed the solution on my dog more than once?
Although the rashes appear to be drying out, I don't want to keep spraying my dog with the solution because of the hair lightening effect. Despite this, I do still want to continue to promote the healing process. In between weekly applications of the borax/h2o2 solution, can I resume using the Gentamicin Sulfate spray or will this decrease the effectiveness of the borax/h2o/h2o2 solution? Please advise.
Question: I read in the post above something that makes me suspect that I might be able to substitute the H2O2 with ACV. If that is true, would I use the same proportions. Please let me know.Replied by Lou
11/07/2011Posted by Diamond (Salisbury, Usa) on 06/24/2011
Ana-Australia;It sounds like you have mange(?), my cats and myself had the same thing. Go to Ted's site on mange treatments for pets, they are natural and they do work, it does how-ever take time. I love this site, I have been sick for many years and now just getting better by using Ted's remedie's. Good luck, Please let us know how you are doing. God blessPosted by Tenny (Bluffton, Sc) on 05/27/2011
Are the instructions for demodex, or sarcoptic mange, or both?Posted by Rashad (Queens, Ny, Usa) on 05/09/2011
Hi. I rescued an intact, bluenose Pit about about three weeks ago. Shes a year and a fw months, I later found out. She has what I figured was mange. I later found out whos litter she was originally from, and that the whole litter got it from the mother. Ive assumed, based on research, that this is demo mange. She'll itch sometimes, mostly hotspots, (her neck and neckback)but not constantly. Shes ALWAYS shakin off like shes wet as if she felt something was on her... And she stinks!
Anyway, I bathed her as soon as I found her, and did the used motor oil thing as advised by two people with pretty good dog knowledge n experience. I didnt rinse it off, then days later I was told I was supposed 2 rinse it off after a while SMH. I didnt really like the idea of the oil so I started researching after I did it once.
I found out that it can do more harm than good, and I found the borax treatment, and then I found this site. I also gave her a dose of Revolution a few days afta I got her. The first Borax bath was on 4/22. I bathed her with sulfodene first and just poured the peroxide solution on her from her head down her back from a bottle. Needless 2 say, half of it was wasted and I doubt it was effective. The next 5 times so far, ive improved this bath process by far. I sponge her down all over paying attention 2 her bald/hot/redspots. I do her head n face, her eyes, she closes them anyway. I sponge and spray her undersides, and pour the last of it all on her. Then, I let her go NO DRYING. She acts like a retard 4 a while shakin n runnin round. She get a borax bath twice weekly 4now, every other time with an initial sulfodene shampoo/teatree oil soap bathe. 1 bottle of H2O2, two bottle full of water(use the empty peroxide bottle), and at least 3 tblsn of 20 mule borax till it wont dissolve nomore(and I shake it). I also mix 1part raw organic ACV (with the mothers) and enuff borax till saturated and spray her regularly, and rub her hotspots and baldspots with cottonballs w that. I also put cooking oil on the hot/bald/balding spots sometimes.
Sometimes I make a borax paste wit the H2O2 n water, or ACV n water and rub it on her bad spots. BTW, She doesnt really appreciate any of this 2much, especially the spraying.
I put a capfull ACV in her drinking water, and sometimes a pinch of borax 2. I hav her on groundmeat and liver wit sum veggies if I hav any. I season it n brown it a bit, so its not fully raw. If I dont have meat 4her, I give her Merrick or Wellness (canned preferably) Their ingredients are good. I throw two calcium supplements in her food and cover it wit brewers yeast. She also gets some brewers yeast w/garlic capsules daily which she loves. Im tryn a opmimize her immune system.
Glad 2 say her stink has eased off over the last week or so. The rawness, black scabs and bleeding from her rubbing her neck/back on anything have also eased off little by little. She seems less irritated then she was. And she is in heat now! Im assuming this may have brung on the outbreak, as it seemed it got worse rt after I got her. 2day, b4 her bathe I noticed hair growth on her hotspots... YEAH! Its been a lil over 2 weeks, and 2day was her sixth borax bathe. Seems 2 b improving so far. I'll keep u posted.Posted by Brenda (Conroe, Tx) on 04/21/2011
PLease excuse me if I repeat what someone else said. Demodectic mange IS contagious!!! Mites are alive, and they DO travel!!!!! If you have an area where a dog with demodectic mange, and there is another dog that, within a few minutes, walks over the area, or plays, etc... The next dog CAN get the mange. If a dog has the demodectic mange and touches nose to nose, if the demodex is on the face, it will spread to another dog!!! I had some vets tell me it is not, and some say exactly what I described. Do not think it cannot be spread. It does flare up during puppy growth spurts, stress, and a weak immune system. If a dog has a weak immune system, there is much more of a chance, although any could get demodex. I have had the experience of it spreading from one puppy to another, and they were NOT litter mates! Proof was all I needed! I cleaned and cleaned until all mites were gone!! YES, you do need to clean the area the dog lives in!!! And even spray outside. Better safe than sorry!Posted by Cara (Colorado Springs, Co) on 01/02/2011
Short of wrestling on the floor with my dogs and waiting to see if I get bites, how do I know when their Mange is completely cured?Posted by Jenn (Memphis, Tn) on 11/03/2010
I've been using the remedy for mange because I thought my puppy had mange, due to excessive biting/itching/chewing/whining and screaming. She does not have fleas and I thought she was probably too young for allergies (at 9 weeks old) She has the hair thinning like with mange. I used the remedy once, and the next day she was screaming/biting/chewing again. So I used the remedy the next day, but with vinegar instead. This seemed to help somewhat... She didn't itch as much and her skin turned white again (instead of hot pink! )
I waited one day and then I woke up itching all over. I cleaned my entire house, thinking we were getting the mites. I mopped, vacuumed after sprinkling diatomaceous earth, washed her bedding/toys and blankets. I sprayed the mixture outside where she lays and plays. I dumped it all over my porch, where she lays. Today, she woke up screaming and howling again, itching like mad, two days after the last application. So I bathed her again. This time her skin peeled off. She has horrible sores all over her body now, bright red patchy skin and swelling. WHAT DID I DO WRONG? Did I use the mixture too often? She just keeps itching like crazy. Maybe it's not mange? I haven't taken her to the vet to make 100% sure. Any advice or help would be GREATLY appreciated. I am scared I am killing her and I feel so sorry for her with the pain and suffering I know she is in!! Oh, Benadryl (antihistamine) does help her sleep at night. Should I continue with that? Thanks!!