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Vitamin C Cures and Side Effects
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GENERAL FEEDBACK
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05/29/2010: Pat from Athens, Al, Usa writes: "I'm looking for some suggestions on how some of you find the most palatable ways of taking sodium ascorbate (vitamin c) powder, as I've seen that Ted has in several posts recommended it as a good form of vitamin c. I just wondered if it would be better mixed with something or taken straight up or could be mixed with the ACV or just whatever without an ill effects. Thank you."
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[YEA] 04/13/2009: Abby from Cincinnati, Ohio, USA writes: "I've been reading the posts about Vitamin C. I have taken absorbic acid Vit. C for at least six years with no difficulty. I take 6000mg -- 2 1000mg tabs 3 times a day. I have also tested my pH in the past and it was within normal limits. Does this mean that this kind of Vit. C is alright for me? I just starting taking coconut oil and apple cider vinegar. Will these counteract the acid effect of the absorbic acid? I really do not want to buy the more expensive Vit. C if I am okay with the one I'm taking."
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GENITAL HERPES
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[YEA] 05/17/2009: Cesar from Panama writes: "I was diagnose with genital herpes around 1996, from that time I had to take medicine for that every 3 repetitions by year. In 2001 I started to take a daily dose of 500mg of Vit C, and after 9 years my genital herpes never returned. I continue taking Vit C without any side effects."
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HEART FAILURE
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[YEA] 12/12/2008: Spence from Sparta, Tn writes: "In reference to C side effects I have a heart failure problem and I mega dose alot of supplements for this condition. In regards to Vitamin C I normally take 6000mg divided into 3 doses daily. In the winter during cold season I increase my doseage to 9000mg daily to ward off colds etc. I personally use vitamin C with rose hips absorbic acid capsules. The only side effects I am aware of not to say there may be others is loose bowel movements if you injest more C than your body can handle. No big deal. Just back off a little. I also found in my case I can gradually build back up slowly with no more of these issues. While we know the C vitamin is a plus for many ailments you might want to consider a B complex supplement as well. I personally prefer the 100mg complex capsules and take them 3 times a day with the C. The benefits are numerous. But hey! I'm no doctor. I just know what works for me. One more tip if I may. Mega doses of water soluable vitamins for the most part are safe within reason where as oil base supplements is a whole different can of worms and should be monitored carefully. Spence"
RepliesEC: More about HF here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_failure
05/04/2011: Tryingtostayhealthy from Half Moon Bay, Ca, United States replies: "I take 5 grams ascorbic acid powder and 4 grams lysine powder mixed in a glass of water every day (Pauling Protocol). I add a pinch of bicarbonate of soda and drink a little bit throughout the day. The side effect I have is that I have to urinate every hour. I feel fairly certain the C is the cause because when I stop a day the problem decreases. I know vitamin C is a diuretic but is there anything I can do to lessen this problem?
As background info I am a 56 year old male who had a heart attack 18 months ago and had 2 stents placed at that time. I take simvastatin (Zocor generic statin drug) and 1 full aspirin daily. I cannot be certain what is the major benefit whether it is the stents, drugs, exercise, or the vitamin C and lysine mixture but I am feeling good and not had any problems since. My hunch though is that it's the vitamin C - lysine mixture and exercise that is helping quite a bit.
I plan to keep taking the vitamin C and lysine forever so I would like to find a way to cure the frequent urination problem. Thank you for any suggestions."
05/05/2011: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe replies: "try taking less."
05/05/2011: Jay from Toronto, Ont, Canada replies: "Tryingtostayhealthy from Half Moon Bay, Ca, United States writes: "I take 5 grams ascorbic acid powder and 4 grams lysine powder mixed in a glass of water every day (Pauling Protocol). I add a pinch of bicarbonate of soda and drink a little bit throughout the day.There is research to show that any benifit of a single large dose of vitamin C is significantly reduced in the human blood stream within 5 hours. Split your dose across your day at 4 hour intervals to maximize its benefits. This makes sense since most animals make their own vitamin C and have a continuous flow of it into their bloodstream rather than a big "hit" once a day. They also make even more than normal amounts of vitamin C to cope with stress or injury. Also spreading the supply across time as required allows the body processes that can use the extra vitamin to basically operate their processes continually rather than starting up when adequate vitamin C is available and then shutting down these processes a few hours later when supply is low.
FYI: Doctor Irwin Stone and Doctor Mathias Rath both worked with or corresponded with Doctor Linus Pauling on vitamin C and both of these men have written books on vitamin C and the heart. You can find both books free online."
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HEAVY MENSTRUAL FLOW
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[YEA] 08/06/2007: MARTHA from LAREDO, TEXAS writes: "I was having a very heavy menstrual period, I was miserable I could not go out any where this was my second month and the only thing the nurse from my doctor's office recommended was to rest. My doctor said I was a candidate for a D&C if my period would continue the same. I was recommended to use vitamin c 1 to 2 1000mg pills a day. I was on my 3rd day of heavy torment and I took 2 1000mg vitamin c this made my heavy flow to ease up and I continued my regular menstrual period the next two days. I was recommended to use vitamin c 1000mg one week before my period one to two pills a day and take it all thru the last day of the menstrual period. This really works I am back to normal and happy to share this with other women who are suffering what I did."
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HIGH CHOLESTEROL
07/16/2007: Chuck from Tukwila, WA writes: "I was reading where high Cholesterol can be fixed by taking 3000-5000 mg of vitamin C per day. The theory is cholesterol attaches itself to lesions in your blood vessels. The Vitamin C repairs the lesions thus allowing the body to flush the cholesterol that is not needed naturally. Further the articles stated Cholesterol is needed to heal nerves that get damaged. The statin drugs stop the body from making cholesterol thus the nerves don't get healed. I took a fall 2 years ago and no one can figure out why I am in pain. I have been on statin drugs for 4 years. My theory is I damaged nerves in the fall and the lack of cholesterol is not allowing my nerves to heal. I weaned myself off the Lipitor. And am taking 1500 mg 3 times a day of vitamin C. I don't know if it will work I hope so. But I have noticed my memory is getting better"
Replies01/07/2009: Ed from Clarkston, Michigan replies: "Lipitor Muscle pain: I notice one person commented about taking Vit C in large doses to help controlling cholesterol. I have read a lot of similar articles as I have the same muscle pain that all the articles talk about in taking Statin drugs. My question is: If I stop taking statin drugs and use Vit C do the muscles rebuild - less the pain and how long does it take. I have been taking Lipitor and swithched to Sinvastain a year ago and have now developed severe muscle pain in legs. Will my blood test indicate a real cholesterol number or will the Vit C distort the cholesterol reading. I get my blood tested every 6 months.
Thanks
Ed"
01/08/2009: Desiree from Portland, OR replies: "If you drink milk, you might benefit from researching milk, and especially the homogenization process. This process creates fragmented jagged molecules which then pierce arteries causing cholesterol to patch up the wound, thus clogging arteries. Please remember that milk is a big business. I discovered this by reading a book called Radiant Health (author: Peskin) which exposes the food and health industry. I believe homogenized milk causes high cholesterol, heart disease and stroke. I believe that after age 2, we do much better getting our calcium from non-milk sources like vegetables. We are not defenseless against the food and health industries, but we have to be advocate of our own health by educating ourselves. Blessings."
01/22/2009: Julian from Moscow, Russia replies: "I was involved in the building of the Lipitor factory for the then Warner Lambert in Ringaskiddy, Cork Ireland. The Irish have never been good at keeping secrets. Lipitor comes from garlic.
Eat garlic, it doesn't have the side effects of Lipitor.
When you think about it, your body is the result of a million years of development. It has been 'built' to run on natural products not the chemicals that pharmacuticals have designed in the last 20 years."
EC: Cross-posted to the garlic page as well, thank you!
01/22/2009: Joyce from Joelton, Tn replies: "Hi Chuck, I didn't see anything mentioned about the cause of your pain, but if it started after the fall 2 years ago, at this stage it will probably be called traumatic arthritis.I would suggest two things for that pain if it started shortly after the fall. The first one is MSM (methylsulfonylmethane), Now you know why it is known as MSM. The second one is old Edgar Cayce's castor oil packs. When you research on MSM you will find that it is most frequently used by holisitic practitioners to keep down inflammation and promote cellular regrowth. It is also a first cousin to sulphur (a natural mineral in our bodies) and what our bodies metabolize DMSO to. I think between the two, you will find the pain, much less, if not totally gone within 2 weeks after starting them.
Don't worry about MSM causing a reaction if you are allergic to sulfa drugs. I cannot take sulfa drugs without feeling worse after 3 days of it than I was before starting it for an infection. However I can take the MSM without problems, and I have plenty of allergic problems."
01/01/2010: Ron from Emporia, Kansas replies: "Hi Chuck,You can type in "Lipitor co-enzyme Q10" in Google and will get several articles related to muscle pain and the Statins (Lipitor, Sinvastain, Mevacore [lovastatin], etc.).
A brief summary: Lovastatin (and other statins) do lower cholesterol, BUT they also lower Co-enzyme Q10. Without enough Co-enzyme Q10 the muscles in the body weaken (the heart is a muscle).Merck, the drug company that makes Lovastatin (similar to Lipitor) has had a patent on a combination of Lovastatin and Co-enzyme Q10 since 1989 . K. Folkers is the doctor who has done the most research on Co-enzyme Q10. He was an employee of Merck, working out of the University of Texas. Since Merck has the patent on the Lovastatin/C0-enzyme Q10 drug combo, no one else can market it and for money reasons Merck won't market it, nor have they alerted the public to the benefits of Co-enzyme Q10.
A local friend of mine had been taking Lipitor for a few years and developed severe muscle pain in her legs. She simply stopped taking it and the pain went away. She hasn't taken it since.
If you are worried about your cholesterol, you might look at the Cholesterol section on this web site. At the top of the page, click on Ailments, then C, then Cholesterol. Some good remedies, especially Apple Cider Vinegar."
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HOW TO MAKE SODIUM ASCORBATE
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[QUESTION] 09/14/2009: Lilydy from Alice Springs, Australia writes: "Hi I just want to ask if anyone has an idea how to make your own sodium ascorbate? I read somewhere about mixing equal amount of baking soda and ascorbic acid, is this correct? Any suggestion will be appreciated as it is expensive here to buy the commercial ones. Thanks."
Replies09/16/2009: Bessie from Calgary, Alberta, Canada replies: "In response to Lilydy's question about making Sodium Ascorbate - I was told to use twice the amount of Vitamin C powder to baking soda (example, 1 teaspoon of Vitamin C powder mixed with 1/2 teaspoon baking soda). If you mix it with water, it will fizz up so just add a bit of water, wait until the fizzing stops and then add more water. Be careful not to take too much all at once, though. It can upset your stomach! Hope this helps."
10/13/2009: Lilydy from Alice Springs, Australia replies: "Thanks for your suggestion Bessie. Thanks also to Joyce from Joelton,TN who was very accommodating with her response via email. So far I have tried 10% baking soda to 90% ascorbic acid combination based on the ratio I observed in a lot of commercial sodium ascorbate. So for example, for 1 tsp of baking soda, I mix this with 9 tsp ascorbic acid. From this, I use 1 tsp of the mix in one or half a glass of water or juice. So far I don't have any issue of diarrhea from taking such combination. I take twice a day for days that I need more immunity."
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INSECT BITES
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[YEA] 12/14/2008: Donna from Port Huron, MI writes: "We do backpacking in remote areas in northern Michigan where mosquitoes and black flies can make a trip unbearable. I read about taking Vitamin B6 to prevent bites, tried it and found it completely successful. But one time when backpacking with our daughter, I had forgotten the B6 but was taking Vitamin C up to my bowel tolerance level for a specific medical problem. So my blood and cells were full of Vitamin C. I noticed that my daughter's legs were covered with mosquitoes and black flies and in a few minutes, each bite would swell up and become red. I was surrounded by flies and mosquitoes but either I was not bitten (I did not feel anything) or I did not have any reaction. I think that the mosquitoes do not like the high acid content of the blood (I was taking the acidic form of Vitamin C). In addition, when cell and tissue fluid are saturated with Vitamin C, edemas will be removed by the body very quickly. I think this probably is why bites either do not swell or do not last very long if people are taking Vitamin C."
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INTERACTIONS
09/06/2011: Broken Hearted from Kansas City, Missouri,usa. writes: "This post is for PHYSICIST GARY WADE and Bill Thompson from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines or anyone who has the answer.
Hello, physicist Gary Wade, I read your recommendation on the treatment of lipid coated viruses with BHT.. , and I was interested, because I wish to use it to treat a highly resistant and difficult to treat hcv. As a result, I am reading other articles. One article said that vit. C should be taken with some sodium bicarbonate to reduce its acidity; some other article opposes this view, saying that sodium bicarbonate reduces the absorption of vit. C, but in your recommendation, you were silent in this. As a result, I am not taking the issue of NaHCO3 seriously.
My main reason of writing this, is what I read on the negative effects of high doses of vit. c on the following minerals:
CALCIUM, NICKEL, COPPER, ZINC, MANGANESE.
This article said that high doses of vit. C reduces these minerals in the body. In case of calcium, this mineral becomes removed from the bones, causing them to be brittle and easy to break.
Please, I request Physicist Gary Wade and Bill Thompson to address this issue, which is troubling. Please, any other person who has the answer can also address the issue. I will delay my treatment with BHT until I read people's opinions on the issue I have raised, because vit. c is a major component of Physicist Gary Wade's course of treatment with BHT.
Also, I wish to know if I can take the following: Silymarin, Methylsulfonylmethane, Selenium, Magnesium, Calcium Citrate, Potessium Iodide during treatment with BHT, and what can be regarded as the needed daily dosage, considering the daily usage of 8grams of vit.c.
Also, in a difficult case as the hcv that I have, can I add Oil of Oregano to my treatment? Will there be drug interaction that will be harmful to me or that will reduce the effect of the BHT?
I thank you all that will contribute your knowledge to give informed answers to these concerns.
May GOD bless you all."
Replies09/06/2011: Bill from San Fernando, La Union replies: "Hi Broken Hearted... In answer to your questions:My main reason of writing this, is what I read on the negative effects of high doses of vit. c on the following minerals:
CALCIUM, NICKEL, COPPER, ZINC, MANGANESE.
It is true that Vitamin C is a chelator of metals so the best way to counter this effect is to take Fulvic/Humic acid drops seperately every day with the vitamin C. This contains about 60 essential body macro- and micro- minerals and makes these minerals highly bioavailable. I haven't got enough room to describe the many further huge benefits of Fulvic/Humic acid, so here is a link that covers it all:
Also I wish to know if I can take the following: Silymarin, Methylsulfonylmethane, Selenium, Magnesium, Calcium Citrate, Potessium Iodide during treatment with BHT, and what can be regarded as the needed daily dosage, considering the daily usage of 8grams of vit.c..."
I have taken Silymarin, MSM, Selenium and Magnesium Citrate all at the same time, usually at meals, without any side-effects or problems. I don't take potassium iodide -- I take lugols iodine or aqueous iodine because I think it is more beneficial overall than KI(which is also useful). The various glands and organs of the body absorb Iodine in different ways. Potassium Iodide and Iodine are different substances with different properties. It is absorbed, for instance, as only iodide by the thyroid. But the breasts and prostate can only absorb the iodine form. And in other areas of the body, both the iodide and iodine forms are happily absorbed. So, in my opinion, to get the full benefit to the body, lugol's (which contains both potassium iodide and iodine) is the best form to take because it covers all the necessary ground. I also understand that some people are quite sensitive to lugols iodine, so instead, Nascent Iodine or Atomidine (as Edgar Cayce recommended) is perhaps more useful and kinder to the body, but is also more expensive.
Regarding Calcium Citrate, I agree with Ted -- the western diet is over-fortified with calcium now, so no need to take any calcium at all -- more important to take magnesium to get rid of the excess calcium in your body. This is a bit tricky though -- and will depend on how much calcium you actually ingest, how old you are and how much processed food you are eating.
I usually take between 1 - 3 grams of vitamin c per day plus I eat fruits. Linus Pauling, a Nobel Prize winning chemist, took 10 -- 20 GRAMS of Vit C a day usually in ascorbate form and he lived till 93 y o. He also researched Vit C and discovered that most mammals like cows, goats, dogs, cats etc self-manufacture their own Vit C in fairly large amounts but that humans, bats and guinea pigs have to get their vitamin c from an external food source because they cannot self-manufacture vit c. In his own research, he also mentions that a small goat produces 12 GRAMS of vitamn c a day from their liver. And in times of stress, the little goat is capable of producing up to 18 grams of vit c. A goat is also way smaller than a human being. So how does this large daily dose for a small goat stack up against the recommended RDA dose of 75 MILLIgrams a day ? This means that the goat's daily Vit C intake is exactly 160 times higher than the human RDA for vitamin c.
I have read much research on BHT. Dr Denham Harman, the discoverer of the anti-oxidant nature of vitamins, regarded BHT as a super-anti-oxidant because, in his famous experiment in 1962, he found that BHT added to mice diets, when measured against a placebo control group, worked to extend the average lifespan of the mice taking BHT by 45%. See the research here:
http://www.ajcn.org/content/25/8/839.full.pdf
Other options for you and daily dosages for most of the above, are given in a recent reply post of mine here:
http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/remedy-combinations.html#BHOOO
Just to finally add that that Hep C will not become resistant to these remedies because:
* Both aspirin/lysine as well as BHT act to dissolve the lipid outer viral envelope of the Hep C virus which allows the immune system to attack and destroy the now de-cloaked virus. Thus there is no time for the virus to adjust to this protocol.
* The Berkson Triple Anti-Oxidant Protocol works to attack the Hep C virus by anti-oxidant action while at the same time helping to repair liver damage and is a successful therapy involving regular oral intake of Alpha Lipoic Acid, Selenium and Milk Thistle.
* Chanca Piedra(1000 mgs taken at mealtimes) acts to both protect liver hepatocytes(worker liver cells) and to inhibit the Reverse Transcriptase enzyme in the Hep B & Hep C virus, thus completely preventing the virus from replicating, mutating and becoming resistant to the action of Chanca Piedra."
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KNEE PAIN
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[YEA] 12/06/2006: Barbara from Portland, OR writes: "I started taking high doses of Vitamin C to help ward off a cold virus. For the past several weeks I took 5-10 grams of Vitamin C. I noticed my knee pain disappeared. I am a runner/cross country skier who has virtually stopped these activities due to pain in my right knee. For 7 years I have tried glucosamine, calcium, MSM, and NSAIDs. I don't like taking NSAIDS. However, the other remedies did not relieve the pain and inflammation. Therefore, I have been tolerating the pain and have discontinued using NSAIDS. I was very surprised to find that the Vitamin C use correlated with complete pain relief and reduction of inflammation. So I stopped the C for a week and the pain returned. I have resumed the C and the pain is gone again."
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LARGE DOSES OF VITAMIN C
06/24/2010: Jennifer from Rochester, Ny writes: "Please read the following link for information on taking large doses of Vitamin C for its healing properties.
http://www.orthomed.com/titrate.htm
Wishing you well,
Jennifer"
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LOW ACIDITY
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[YEA] 10/06/2011: Jan from High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England, Uk writes: "Try Ester C, available in health shops, good luck!"
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LUNG CANCER
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[YEA] 09/07/2007: Erdie Delacruz from Cebu City, philippines writes: "if you like my testemonies about Daily C (sodium Ascorbate) just contact me in my nO.09203294096... i will share to you the whole thing was happened in my life... one thing ive share to you again... i have a friend named jane..she was imprison of lungs cancer...a lot of drugs she was taken... al the names of drugs in the store... she bought just to heal her sicknesss...many doctors gave a receit and comments about her sickness..lungs cancer... unfortunately, she is hopeless alrealy of all drugs given by her doctors.. yet. we we met..mayebe Gods grace...ive share to her the power of daily C that wvwn cancer patient will heal of it...becuase primarily it is anti- cancer and cardiovascular deases (CVD)... so let me to continue.. after few days. her husband...told me that there was something happened after she take daily C....first he told me that his wife...unti2x bumalik ang kanyang lakas..at yong pag uubo at nya nawla..then she's able to walk even how long it is..then when i said to him...maintain to her the mega dosing of Daily C...take 5000 - 1000mg of daily C everyday... so few months...his wife is so energitic and thankful to me becuase the doctor told her that her sickness is alrealy going to heal... so im thankful to God that becuase of daily C...ive a lot of people enjoy..and isured of their lives...Becuase of DAILY C..(NON ACIDIC VIT. C)"
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MONO
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[YEA] 07/09/2008: Richard Morgan from Edgewater, Florida writes: "Oral vitamin C therapy as recommended by Dr. Robert Cathcart was employed to resolve within 14 days a case of mononucleosis contracted by my 17-year-old grand-daughter.
Procedure:
1st 24 hours, 7000mg ascorbic acid powder in orange juice every hour.
Subsequent days: 1000mg every hour until bowel tolerance syndrom; thereafter, an amount of the vitamin every three hours just short of bowel tolerance syndrome."
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MULTIPLE CURES
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[YEA] 05/14/2008: Regina from Cacoor, Cavite, Philippines writes: "According to over 70 years of scientific, medical and clinical research, natural vitamin c is necessary to over 300 metabolic funtions in our body and its is also regarded as the "Mother of all vitamins" because it can worked out in our body without any other vitamins but other vitamin from a-zinc need vitamin c in order to be absorbed and function in our body. And according to Dr. Erwin stone, a biochemist, there is no one single factor in our body that is not affected by vitamin c. meaning human body is very much dependent on this particular vitamin that whenever it is depleted from our body, we surely will suffer a disease called scurvy. Human body does not manufacture vitamin c that is why we take it from foods that we eat everyday, and from supplements. According to study with Dr Linus Pauling, our body needs at least 1000 to 2000 mgs/day for it to function normally and protect the body from free radicals that usually destroys our cells. But in case of disease, we need to take more to fastly recover from illness. Also, vitamin c gives us energy which we need everyday not only for our mobility but more importantly for our body's cellular activities. Vitamin c also aids in the production of collagen which is the 2nd most important function of vitamin. Colagen helps strengthen and repairs the body tissues especially the heart and all other organs. it also promotes the immediate healing of wounds. Also because vitamin c is anti-oxidant, it aids our liver to facilitate the elimination of toxins and free radicals from the body. It also boost the immune system keeping the body cope and heal itself from any ailments. There are varied vitamin c in the market today. There synthetic or chemically induced vitamin c and the natural vitamin c. Most common vitamin c that is available in the market is the synthetic brands which is the acidic based. In my opinion and experience, the most effective one is ________ because aside fom being natural it is also an alkaline vitamin c with a pH of 72-78, which is found to be the most potent anti-oxidant. It gives us all we need from a vitamin c, we get the goodness of vitamin c and alkalinity.
Me and my family started using ___after my five (5) year old son had a surgery for a Mesynteric augmental cyst that developed outside of his intestine as big as my son's fist. after the operation his pedia sugeon gave him this natural vitamin c. His wound which was about 4 inches long healed in just a matter of days. And also the best thing that happened to us with this vitamin c is that the recurrent asthmatic syndrome which my three kids usually experienced and made us visit the hospital almost every month was gone. Now they are more healthy than ever before. My sinusitis, arthritis, backpain, migrain as well as vertigo were gone. I am taking 2,000-6,000 mgs/day.When I share the product with my friends and relatives they claimed relief especialy when they under stress. I also share the product with my friend who was suffering from "psoriasis" i was truly amazed because she was relieved from the disease in just one week of taking 10,000 mgs/day of course with our company physician's advice.She suffered from this i should say depressing disease for over 10 years. I also share this particular vitamin c to many. My friend who is a hypertensive, it regulated her blood pressure by taking 3,000- 5,000 mgs/day. There are also a lot of people with heart disease who are saved from by-pass surgery because of this vitamin c. By the way, our company physician have been prescribing this vitamin c for more than five (5) years already and it helped a lot of hopeless people in our place especially those suffering from the dreaded cancer. For me vitamin c is very essential to every human forms. In fact, i consider this as the twin of our body becaue without this essential nutrient we will surely suffer from scurvy when our body doesn't get enough vitamin c. But we should be careful in choosing the kind of vitamin c. Better choose only the natural, non-acidic, alkaline vitamin c or eat a lot of alkaline forming fruits and vegetables. Sad to say, we don't get enough vitamin c from eating fruits and vegetables because of so many factors. That is why we need to take supplements."
Replies[YEA] 12/23/2008: JoJoe from Dipolog City, Zamboanga del Norte,Philippines replies: "Regina you're right .i've been witnessing my brother suffering from the result of too much drinking liquor (wine). As his brain tissue was very much affected by acidic tension and crush its normal function down to earth level (became FOOL) ,as being poor in status living, things go hopeless and devastating. Having so many empathetic and sympathetic experiences, i give him ____ C 10,000 mg or 20 capsules of it. After taking it, a remarkable result had shown automatically in a couple of minutes.Thanks to ____, my brother now is in good condition(good health) and strong through it. He's now including it in his daily meal.in my opinion...it's important to learn and study vitamin c in very simple way by using an alkaline tester (acid tester used by doctors) in order to know the veracity (truth) on your vitamin c supplements and also put your supplements in in a clear glass of water and observe it thouroughly, anything made it muddy or foggy or dirty looks are SYNTHETICS or acidic. In many ways, make sure your supplements are Alkaline based not acidic base by knowing the PH factor that our body requires.
hope it ads something on you and please do not criticise my English workmanship or my weakness in words, for such experience cannot be question by someone like you. thanks"
03/11/2010: Cheemiss from Toronto, Ontario replies: "Hello JoJoe,
I am curious, you & Regina, the post above talk about a Natural Alkaline Vitamin C being the best, but you don't mention the name.
I live in Canada. Would this product be available here? Would you pls PM me with the name.
Regina's post does not have any contact buttons.
Thank you for sharing.
p.s. As for your English, it's great! I wish I could be as fluent in my parents heritage language as you are in English."
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[YEA] 04/29/2008: ann from potosi, mo. writes: "I have used vitamin c for years for bleeding gums, bad nosebleeds and any other bleeding problems. I either take a stress vitamin with 500vit c or just a vit. c by itself -preferably a chewable one. Especially during menopause -taking 500 vit c every 3-4 hours will stop hemoraging and blot clots and normalize the flow. You must take it every 3-4 hrs. or it will start up again. It is better if at least one of the doses is a stress b vit with 500 added vit.c in it. I fell and hit my head on a concrete wall and opened a 4 inch gapin my scalp with excessive bleeding. I chewed 2 500 vit. c and immediately the bleeding completely stopped, helping me on the inside and outside of my head. I didn't have to have any drainage from fluid buildup inside my head and the wound healed very fast. Vit c normalizes the blood-helps with blood clots that are already there to help dissolve them and is so important is excessive bleeding that no one should ever go to the dentist or go into surgery without taking it if you bleed easily. It could save your life. I used to literally take a sheet to bed with me after haveing a tooth pulled to wipe the blood on. After I learned about vit c and took it before i went to the dentist, the bleeding stopped before I got off the parking lot. I really think I could have even done better without the cotton! Hope this helps someone keep from having an hysterectomy or other complications. I have used vit c for these things for over 30 years. I don't take it on a regular basis, mostly if I get sick with a cold or stomach flu which about 10 grams -I take it in peanut butter and syrup- the powdered vit c. Take 2 doses about a hour apart sometimes will kill stomach flu completely out if you catch it in time. Thanks."
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NUMBING AND TINGLING IN THE FEET
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[YEA] 03/04/2007: Steve from Los Angeles writes: "I have been taking about 2000mg of vitamin c in the morning and evening. the problems I have had with my feet has all but disappeared. I have had numbing or tingling in my feet. I do not know if this is from physical injuries too them or from type 2 diabetes or both but I feel the Vitamin C has helped alkaline my system."
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[YEA] 09/07/2007: Erdie from Cebu City, Philippiones writes: "Im Erdz of cebu.... I really appreciate the effects of vit. C especially when I knew the latest Vit. C (daily C) bopered [buffered] Non Acidic Vitamin C... I haven much daily C evn in mega Dosing... becuase i have the fever and flue... more than that my friend told me that daily c is ati [anti] oxidant and nutralizer [pH neutralizing] ...so ive observed that few days...my acidity was not able to bodered [bother] me anymore..eventually i drink softdrinks... so finally i really thankful right now becuase taking mega dose of daily C which is sodium Ascorbate (non Acidic Vitamin C) is advantage than other vit. C we know from the market...(ascorbic Acid) we are prone to sickness and pro-oxidant."
Replies06/07/2011: C from Cheltenham, Pa replies: "I think that you are adding your own "science" to ascorbic acid. There is strong evidence that Vitamin C's real effects come from its property as a Hydrogen donor ie: its properties as an acid. Neutralizing the acid may remove its benefit. In fact, this entire website is way too biased toward turning everything "alkaline". Without the H dontaion from acids (H donation is literally the definition of an acid) you'd burn up with free radical oxidation. H is literally what quenches the hydroxyl free radical. Its like water on a fire. Ask any chemist, alkaline burns in the lab are much, much worse than acid burns. Acids(hydrogen donors) are what cool your body down from free readical oxidation."
06/08/2011: Debbie from Melbourne , Australia replies: "I agree this website is too skewed about turning everything alkaline. Stomach acid needs to be acidic or it won't digest food properly and minerals won't be properly absorbed."
06/08/2011: Joyce from Lansdowne, Pa replies: "While I believe in alkalizing the body, stomach acid should not be alkalized unless one is producing too much acid. I suffered from indigestion and hours after I have eaten my food would not be digested. My allergist diagnosed me as having acid reflux which was causing asthma like symptoms. I was taking Nexium which did not help much. I took ACV which helped but after starting the green smoothie I had no more problems with indigestion or acid reflux. I still take ACV ocassionally and probiotics. I love Earth Clinic and believe this site is helping a lot of people and if alkalizing helps, let it be."
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[YEA] 01/02/2010: Mary Grace from Chicago, Il writes: "After reading the rules for posting, I'm sorry I can't put a link here to the website that explains the benefits of Vitamin C but hopefully by just googling Dr. Klenner, you can find this information. He did a study of pregnant women taking Vitamin C and 100% came through without miscarrying. I am 5 weeks pregnant now with my 9th child and have always taken Vitamin C through pregnancies. My mother had 5 children and she used to take high doses of Vitamin C. There are such great benefits so for those that are concerned, please do a little more research and don't stop taking your C."
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[YEA] 02/08/2010: Kathleen from Chicago, Illinois writes: "Hi,
This is only the second time that I have posted, and I wanted to thank you for your kind words regarding my first post.
I promised that I would update everyone IF I was able to finally conquer sciatica. Well, I DID IT! I said that I was going to try Magnesium as suggested on your site. Didn't seem to help me.
What finally did the trick was "flooding" with Vitamin C per Dr. Frederick Klenner's web site, Doctor Yourself. Please check out the testimonal under Back Pain (at the bottom of that page). Unlike the testimonial, I was not completely out of pain on the fourth day; it took me six days.
I took two grams (2,000 milligrams) every hour I was awake. What I finally figured out was that the man that wrote the testimonial was taking a teaspoon every hour (that's four grams).
Just in case you are concerned at the high level of Vitamin C, it is a water soluble vitamin which the body will throw off if it can't use it. There is no known Vitamin C toxicity to humans.
The reason it worked is very simple. I had a Vitamin C deficiency severe enough to cause sciatica. Wish I had known that before!
What I also didn't realize was that the intermittent backaches that I have had in the last five years or so were also a Vitamin C deficiency and a precursor to the more severe sciatica! I have not had even a hint of a backache since I began treating the sciatica.
I am now on a maintenance dosage of Vitamin C of about 10 grams per day (still working out exact amount) which I will remain on for the rest of my life. You know when the body cannot use the level of Vitamin C that you are taking. You get diarreha and just cut back a bit until you have the right level for you.
This is what is so critical that I learned from the web site and my horrifying experience. Humans, monkeys, guinea pigs, and fruit bats don't produce their own Vitamin C, but without it, we will die. The web site is based on the Linus Pauling branch of medicine named Orthomolecular Medicine. It was Linus Pauling's theory that we probably began our journey in the tropics and had a more than adequate supply of fruits and therefore Vitamin C. At some point, a differential in our DNA eliminated our ability to produce Vitamin C and worked to our advantage (our bodies didn't have to do double duty and produce Vitamin C as long as we had an adequate supply) until we moved out of the tropics. That's when we got into trouble, big, big trouble.
I could go on and on, but I would just like to close with this. Other than knowing that Linus Pauling was the primary advocate for Vitamin C and was marginalized, I didn't know anything about him. He is the only human being that won not one but two Nobel Prizes in two separate areas, the first was Chemistry, and the second was Peace. Also, his work was the basis used to work out DNA! He is probably the most gifted scientist this country has ever produced. So, what was wrong with him? Was he dishonest? Was he not sane? What is going on.
He made the unfortunate choice to advocate for Peace during the McCarthy era and was labeled a socialist. The government went so far as to revoke his passport for a few weeks, but changed their minds so that he could pick up his Peace prize.
The second reason is that the medical establishment including pharmaceuticals have no financial gain in health. There is money in illness; there isn't money in health (sorry, I've forgotten where I read that).
Check Pauling's biography on Wikipedia. Check out Klenner on the front page of Doctor Yourself under the Orthomolecular Medicine link and then History on that site. Klenner worked out that Vitamin C only works in large doses throughout his long, illustrious career.
My primary reason for advocating natural alternatives for myself is safety. It was a blood pressure generic Lisinopril that triggered my sciatica and my descent into an unfathonable Dante's inferno. I will use SAFE alternatives in the future as often as possible.
Good health to everyone this year!"
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[YEA] 01/14/2008: RJ from Cleveland, Ohio writes: "I recently had a shingles, which I never knew anything about until now. This web site was a big help in helping me understand the disease and what I could do about it.
I actually used multiple remedies to help cure shingles and the excruciating pain that went along with it. I went to a doctor to find out what it was and he confirmed that it was shingles and prescribed Valtrex an antiviral pill (which will not kill the virus), 1 per day for 10 days. I did take it but it didn't do a thing for the outbreak or the pain.
First thing I did was start taking Vitamin C 1000 mg fizzy packets x 3 every hour, by the fourth or fifth hour, I had diarrhea. Not a problem, cut it back to 1000 mg every 3 hours for the next 2 days. This helps to jump start the immune system and Vitamin C doesn't build up in the body and you can't get enough from fruits and vegetables. I also started taking l-lysine 2 tablets in the morning and 2 before bed (1500 mg each time). This also helps to boost immune system and kill the virus. Unfortunately, I did have to take some ibuprofen for the pain from time to time but that was only one or sometimes twice a day for a few days. I also took twice a day 2 ounces of apple cider vinegar mixed with either orange juice or grape juice (not at the same time as the vitamins) until the outbreak was gone.
For the outbreak, I tried putting zinc oxide cream (the worst thing to do) on the outbreak, it did nothing and it was painful to get off because it is made with petroleum. I also tried honey for its' ability to heal, it may have helped but it was messy and I didn't see any results. I did put tea tree oil on for a full day and it seemed to keep it from spreading but I did not see a lot of healing. I then took and put apple cider vinegar directly on the sores and wrapped them in cellophane to keep from drying out and left on for 2 hours. It was painful but it really brought out the sores. I then took baking soda and sea salt mixed with water and applied with a wet wash cloth and let sit on for an hour and then reapplied a few times. This felt great because it had a cooling effect on the sores and took away a lot of the pain. I used to have acne as a teenager and we would go to the beach in the summer and every year, my acne clear up like I had none at all, so I tried it and immediately the sores began to heal. I only needed to use for one to two days for the baking soda and salt water and only once for the apple cider vinegar. Once everything was dried up, I put some calamine lotion on for help with itching and I was surprised when it eliminated the dark marks from where the sores were. For the pain that continued after the sores, I thought it would go away, but unfortunately, it hung around a while and made life tough. I finally tried vitamin E d-alpha, not dl-alpha 1200 IU's twice a day and the pain went away after 2 days. I read that Vitamin C and Vitamin E should be taken together so I took 1000 mg of Vitamin C with the Vitamin E at the same time.
Also, watch your diet and eat a lot of fruits and vegetables. There are some that say the virus uses foods like nuts and chocolate as food to grow and survive, so starve it and you have a better chance that the natural remedies will kill and eat the virus.
Good Luck and I hope this helps someone because many of these same things worked for others and I know that they helped me a lot. Thanks to those that shared."
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06/19/2011: Anna from Montgomery, Alabama writes: "A response to Vitamin C by Paulina from Finland who said a person can't overdose.
03/18/2011: Paulina from Helsinki, Finland replies: "that's not true. YOU CAN'T OVERDOSE VITAMIN C AND IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SIDE EFFECTS, your immune system can get only stronger, bad bacteria in kidneys, intestins & reproductive passages are going to be killed! And you may sneeze as a effect your body is fighting infection, which is much beter than not sneezing while the body is not fighting anything!"
http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/sinus_infection.html#TEDS
She's absolutely wrong. I'm a nursing student and have taken a nutrition course, so let me tell you what actually happens. 70 mg is the normal daily recommended dose for people, but it's okay to take up to 1000mg a day. If a person takes over 1000mg a day for long enough, the body gets use to it. When the person stops taking the Vitamin C, the body thinks it's not getting enough and the body will actually develop scurvy. So yes, a person can overdose on Vitamin C. Just because it's difficult to OD on something does not mean it isn't possible, so treat any vitamin or mineral with respect and take only as much as you need. Also, taking a bunch of Vitamin C when you have a cold will not make it go away faster; Vitamin C upholds the immune system, but it doesn't give it a boost. It won't make something go away if you take a lot of it."
Replies06/19/2011: Carly from Seattle, Wa - Usa replies: "Hi Anna -What you stated is a well known fact re Vitamin C.
Read the Linus Pauling books. You NEVER just stop taking massive amounts of it cold turkey, as you will have a withdrawl reaction as you wrote. By massive amounts, I am talking 8, 000 a day.
HOWEVER....that being said - This is NOT a true "side effect" of taking vitamin C. This is an effect from NOT taking vitamin C.
I personally have taken 2,000 - 3,000 of C a day for a month or two at a time, and stopped and had zero symptoms.
The medical establishment would MUCH rather throw drugs with SEVERE side effects at us and say nothing (just read the side effects for Lipitor if you don't believe me).
I am NOT going to concern myself with the "side effects" of taking too much C. The ONLY true "side effect" of too much C is running to the bathroom. If that happens, you back off a bit, and are fine in a few hours. NOT a big deal.
Good luck in your medical studies - It sounds like you will fit right in with all of the conformist lemmings. Stay away from cliffs.
Carly"
06/19/2011: P from Earth replies: "Anna, could you please send us links to the published studies you refer to?I personally take well over 10g a day of Vitamin C, and have done so for years. The last time I was sick (the flu) was in 2008. You comments are completely incompatible with my personal experience. Please enlighten us."
06/19/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Please post the study. Or the course material."
06/20/2011: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France replies: "As someone said here I think that you fit right in your study, Anna but, if I may give you a piece of advice..... Please do some research of yourself! The danger? You might not want to go on with your study or, who knows, you might just change the direction and do something else in the health sector, maybe something with less indoctrination? I can suggest a few books for you in case you are interested.... If in the end you think that the main stream is the way to go you have my blessing, of course! But don't decide before you give other ideas a chance!"
06/20/2011: Gus from Brazil replies: "I started taking about 5 to 10 grams of Vit C a day last year and it's been great. My skin is extremelly soft, my hair is amazing now (very shiny, no longer full of breakage, I don't even use conditioner anymore), and everybody comments on my complexion. It is winter time where I live and everybody around me is sick, but I'm not even afraid to be around them. Ever since being a kid my cuticles always peeled off and bled, and that problem is now gone as well.It wasn't until I learned that the body produces colagen from vit c that it all clicked and made sense. I will be doing this for the rest of my life! I think people should read more about vitamin therapy because there is so much disinformation out there (which is actually done on purpose by the powers that be. The medical establishment has been corrupted but people are finally starting to wake up). Truth is self evident.
An excellent place to get started is this website:
http://doctoryourself.com/A very good movie too is called Food Matters.
Over there you will understand how extremelly safe it is to take nutrients many times more the recommended daily dose just by getting official statistical facts for toxicity. Think about it, when was the last time you had someone close to you be hospitalized because of vitamins? Now think the same about regular allopathic medicine? Adverse drug reactions is a main killer in all western nations.
06/21/2011: Kelly from Cambridge, Massachusetts replies: "Gus - When I read your post, my initial reaction was; "WOW! - 5,000 to 10,000 mg of Vitamin C per day?? That's a lot!"I recently added Vitamin C to my daily supplements after reading that among other things, it can benefit those with chronic pain. (Too soon to tell whether or not it's working, as I have only been taking it for about a week.)
What form of Vitamin C do you take - ascorbic, acerola? Thanks!"
06/21/2011: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France replies: "Linus Pauling took 18,000mg of Vitamin C for most of his life and if there was someone who knew a lot about Vitamin C it was him! The advice is to go up slowly, once you start to get diarrhea you back down and stay there, that is the optimal amount for you. It is different for everybody!"
06/22/2011: Kelly from Cambridge, Massachusetts replies: "Francisca - What form of Vitamin C? (Ascorbic acid, Acerola?)"
06/22/2011: Gus from Brazil replies: "It sounds like a lot, but I know of people that will take way more orally. If you get the diarrea then you hit your limit. You should start slow though.I take pure ascorbic acid in powder form (in juice or water). I buy one kilo online in bulk form, and it's delivered to my home. It lasts a LONG time! Much better than buying expensive pills at the store. Good luck bud!"
06/29/2011: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France replies: "Aren't you afraid that you are buying something else than ascorbic acid when you buy it in powder form on the Internet? That is my fear....."
06/29/2011: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France replies: "Kelly, Linus Pauling advised ascorbic acid. He thought that the rest was not worth the costs so that is what I take! By the way, I forgot to say that he took 18,000mg a day! I reviews his book How to live longer and feel better on the book section, worth the read, very interesting and easy to read but there are others. If you are interested in the subject have a look at my reviews there!"
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[SIDE EFFECTS] 11/20/2009: Rupa from Canada, On writes: "Does Vitamin C causes hair fall? I have been asked by doctor to take iron tablet as my hair was falling. I learned that iron tab (300mg) taken with Vitamin C helps to absorb iron (folic acid) faster. So I took together Vitamin C and iron tablet. But to my surprise my hair fall increased as never before. The rate of fall is higher. I almost lost so many hair. I am confused why it is so. May be Vitamin C is acidic in nature and that may causes hair fall? Or It is some thing like fall is the season for hair fall too?"
Replies12/24/2009: Ron from Emporia, Kansas replies: "Hi Rupa,
The only thing that has worked for me is 5,000 mcg of Biotin in capsule form once a day. It took a couple weeks for it to stop falling out, but it stopped. I take a minimum of 3,000mg of vitamin C daily, so, for me vitamin C is not a factor. I have never run across data that a lack of iron causes hair loss. Time of the year shouldn't be a factor either."
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[QUESTION] 11/04/2009: Rahul from Mumbai, Maharashtra, India writes: "side effect of vitamin c on polio affected person
i sir/madam, my name is Rahul and i am handicapped (affected by polio) my age 20 years. And i have polio since i was 5years. i read an article on internet of Dr. klenner about vitamin C helps to cure polio but the amount of vitamin C is mentioned is very high (400mg) per kilogram of weight in every 2hours so i just want to if i take vitamin C in such massive amount then is ther a chances of any side effects and what are they? please help me.Thanking you"
Replies11/04/2009: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Re: Polio and Vitamin C Side Effects -The side effects from a massive dose of vitamin C is diarrhea. At 400 mg per kilo taken every 2 hours, if we assume a person's weight is 60 kilos, the total dose amounts to 24,000 mg. I believe the dose is high. However, my own approach towards killing any virus, or bacteria lies in the frequency of dose rather than the amount of dose. The other is a combination of other supplements has synergy and hence the dose can be further reduced by 1/2.
Vitamin C has antiviral properties and it's weakly antiviral and this is why the dose is so large. However, it's possible to reduce from 24,000 mg to just 12,000 mg hourly dose. My experience in killing viruses is that the frequency of dose is ideally between 30 minutes to 1 hour. Therefore it's also possible to reduce from 12,000 mg to just 6000 mg if this is taken every 30 minutes. That's an equivalent of 6 tablets/capsules every 30 minutes. There is an indian shilajit (humic acid) that can be applied on the skin when the powder is mixed with water, and taken internally, it's a very broad spectrum antiviral. If that's taken 4 or 5 times a day, I believe the hourly dose of vitamin C 12,000 mg can be reduced also to 6000 mg. If the aspirin were used, the vitamin C will be synergistic and you just need 3000 mg every hour when it's taken with aspirin 500 mg dissolved in a cup of water for only 6 doses per day, not exceeding 3 or 4 days. Most of the polio viruses should be gone in a matter of days (theoretically speaking), and 25 mg of zinc is taken once a day for a week.
The iodine lugol's solution is taken every 3 hours 4 drops for every 3 or 4 hours. These are combination of remedy that should reduce the vitamin C dose to just 3000 mg on a two hourly dose, should make the approach more easily to do in practice. Iodine is kept up for over a week or so. Hence the remedy is carried only for a short period, if done right (in combination or frequency) the viruses usually go away quickly. If they viruses do not die within 3 days to one week, I believe the remedy needs to be redo until which if done properly viruses get killed rather quickly within a matter of days. For instance, I got the swine flu viruses correctly both dose and frequency and it's a one day cure. A few may last up to 2 days, before swine are completely dead, however, one day was more than enough for that case. As in polio if done right (not necessarily this remedy), it should be killed by a week or so."
11/05/2009: K from Sacramento, Ca replies: "Hi Ted,Your post regarding treatment to eradicate viruses - would this approach work to kill virus newly discovered to be associated with fybromialgia? My daughter has it.
Would it work to clear out Morgellons? I have that.
thank you for helping your fellow man to heal"
12/25/2009: Ron from Emporia, Kansas replies: "Hi Rahul,If you are 20 and you've had polio since your were 5, then Dr. Klennar's approach might not help you. In the late 1940s when polio was out of control here in the U.S., Dr. Klennar had success with about 60 cases of Early Stage Polio using high doses of vitamin C. Vitamin C was given by injection and by mouth.
The name of the article where I got this information is: The Origin of the 42-Year Stonewall of Vitamin C by Robert Landwehrhttp://www.orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1991/pdf/1991-v06n02-p099.pdf
I did a study a couple years ago for a local friend of mine who is in his 70s and was a polio victim at the age of 20. The only thing I found that might help was Co-enzyme C-10. It is based on this study.12 patients...7-69 years...all with types of muscle dystrophies...100mg/day for 3 months...a 2nd trial of 15 patients was similar. "Definitely improved physical performance was recorded. In retrospect, a dosage of 100 mg was too low although effective and safe. Patients suffering from these muscle dystrophies and the like, should be treated with vitamin Q10 indefinitely."
(by K. Folkers, the Merck researcher who has done the most research on Q10)
The title of the article:"Two successful double-blind trials with coenzyme Q10 (vitamin Q10) on muscular dystrophies and
neurogenic atrophies"... Folkers K., Simonsen R....from PubMedYou can type the title of the article into your search engine and the article will come up."
10/31/2011: Virginia from Hamilton, Canada replies: "Vitamin C side effectsI have been taking 1/2 teaspoon Vit C Ascorbic Acid with 1/4 teaspoon Baking Soda with a few oz of pineapple juice 2 times per day. After a few days I woke up with really sharp pain in my bladder area, and then following day pain in my leftside kidney. Can Vitamin C cause kidney stones? Is this too much Vit C?"
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[SIDE EFFECTS] 10/04/2009: Jean from Redding, Ca, Usa writes: "I have a very odd situation. Vitamin C causes strange side effects in me and my children. These include small, hard nodules in our fingers, sores in our mouths and bruising on our arms. I am 49, but it has always been this way. my children have the same symptoms. My dad has gout ( I have never had any symptoms of that), but I wonder if the two conditions could be related? Has anyone else had anything like this?"
RepliesEC: Please tell us what type of vitamin C you are taking. Thanks!
06/16/2010: Kate from London, Uk replies: "Re: side effects vitamin C. I've read that excessive doses can cause copper deficiency. On one website I read:"In another chronic copper deficiency / high Vitamin C example, a young boy was brought into my office to investigate the reason why his leg bones were soft and becoming increasingly malformed. It turned out that his father was giving him 2,000 mg of Vitamin C a day, starting shortly after he was born, which resulted in a severe, long-term copper deficiency. Reducing the Vitamin C to more reasonable levels, and recommending some copper-rich foods for the boy, corrected the condition."
This makes me very cautious about megadoses over a long period, though the website also says that taking the ascorbate version is a good protection against some side effects. Views?"
06/17/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines replies: "Hi Kate...Although I don't doubt the instance of the boy suffering copper depletion and its unfortunate effects, the research in the area of the relationship between copper and vitamin c is still quite sadly lacking. However, it has been known for some time that animals such as dogs, cattle and horses can all internally generate their own vitamin c as ascorbates from their own livers, and the amounts generated -- compared to our own recommended RDA -- 75 mgs -- is relatively huge. These animals generate upwards of 8 grams of vitamin c a day for themselves seemingly without harm.
I also admit that the research in this area is sadly lacking and not well understood, but here is an extract on this subject from a research site:
"Although vitamin C supplements have produced copper deficiency in guinea pigs (7), animals requiring dietary vitamin C, the effect of vitamin C supplements on copper nutritional status in humans is less clear. Two small studies in healthy young adult men indicate that the oxidase activity of ceruloplasmin may be impaired by relatively high doses of supplemental vitamin C. In one study, vitamin C supplementation of 1,500 mg/day for two months resulted in a significant decline in ceruloplasmin oxidase activity (8). In the other study, supplements of 605 mg of vitamin C/day for three weeks resulted in decreased ceruloplasmin oxidase activity, although copper absorption did not decline (9). Neither of these studies found vitamin C supplementation to adversely affect copper nutritional status. "
From The Linus Pauling Institute Website
Perhaps the lesson here is to ensure proper daily mineral intake -- including copper -- as a safe dietary regimen with all vitamins, since minerals tend to play such a crucial part -- as enzymes -- in the metabolism and activity of vitamins in our body.
Concerning copper intake, liver is far and away the largest natural source of this mineral and can be taken as cooked liver or simply as dessicated liver tablets."
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