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Ted's Dog Mange Cure (Most Popular)
DO NOT CONFUSE BORAX WITH BORIC ACID!
DO NOT USE BORIC ACID IN PLACE OF BORAX!
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand writes, "The best cure for dog mange is to mix a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution with water and add borax. Dissolve thoroughly. Wash the dog with it once a week. Do NOT WASH THE solution left on the dog with ANY WATER. Do not wipe the dog dry. The solution will take effect on mange. The treatment period should not be longer than a month or two. The dog will probably not be resistant as the treatment is painless. This has worked well for me."
More Exact Measurements (excerpted from various emails on our Reader Question & Answer Section)
Ted replies, "A definitive recipe is add 1-2 tablespoon of borax per 500 cc of 1% hydrogen peroxide solution. To make a 3% hydrogen peroxide to 1%, roughly get one part of 3% H2O2 plus two parts of water. Then apply them on the dog. Wash with this solution daily, no rinsing. If it doesn't go away, I have found mites, or mange to have a large "beehive" hidden somewhere. In which case, quarantine the dog in a small area that is 100% sterile."
"Approximate measurements are 1 bottle of 500 of 3% H2O2, plus 1000 of the cc of water, plus heaping 3 tablespoons of borax. Stir until most of borax is dissolved. The borax is past the point of saturation here so you will see some borax around. Technically the concentration is around 1.5% H2O2, and this is a bit stronger because by the time we finish with it, the H2O2 gets reacted with other things, and by the time we used it is is usually ends up near a 1% solution anyway."
"You need to get put as much borax until it no longer dissolves in a pail of water and forms a precipitate. This is a saturated solution of borax. Add H2O2 to about 1% concentration to a pail of water. Soak the entire dog, several times. Keep the dog wet for some time. The borax will destroy the eggs from laying under the skin which causes the mange. Get some solution and spray or use this to wipe all floors so the dog will not get re infected. Repeat this every week when bathing. This is not a perfect cure, but it my dog now no longer have mange. My dog was completely cured. You can try other chemicals such as sodium perborate, which is more convenient since you don't need to add the hydrogen peroxide."
"The solution (borax or preferably sodium perborate) is to be applied AFTER the shampooing and rinsing. The sodium perborate should remain on the dog after the bath. You will not rinse this at all. It must remain on the dog throughout the day so that it will act continuously on the bugs."
"However, I do recommend a less toxic form of borax, which is sodium perborate if you can find one. The secret is that borax (plus hydrogen peroxide) will work better then most other remedies I have tried, this includes mineral oil, neem oil (no, neem oil does not kill the mange as effectively as sodium perborate) I have tried it. In my "mange colonies" and commercial brands to kill insects don't work. Hydrogen peroxide DOES NOT KILL mange, I USED IT SIMPLY USED IT AS A CATALYST for ordinary borax in case you cannot obtain sodium perborate. Mineral oils simply prevent oxygen from reaching mange, but that didn't stop it. I have tried naphta, bentonite clays, DMSO, potassium permanganate, light fluid, etc. They all worked temporarily, and it just came back. I must make a strong statement that the formula (borax+h2o2 or sodium perborate) works bests and it is broad spectrum. You can use it to control mange, mites, fleas, and lyme disease (initiated by those crawly insects). I have actually compared side to side with neem oil, mineral oil, apple cider vinegar and others here in Bangkok and this is the most wide spectrum cure I have found. Borax prevents denaturation of DNA/RNA in dogs and I currently use this as life extension for dogs. For example a ribose sugar, deoxyribose sugar, and various sugar that causes accelerated aging in dogs can be slowed down with supplementation of dogs indirectly when you do the borax wash. "
"Prepare peroxide 1% solution, add 2-3 tablespoon of borax to that cup. Stir and wait for a couple of minutes for the borax to dissolve. The formula doesn't require an exact science. The importance is to add enough borax until the solution is no longer soluble and well past saturation."
"...The reason why it is not working is YOU CANNOT RINSE THE DOG OF borax and peroxide solution with any shampoo or water. After bathing the dog, keep the dog that way, no drying no rinsing. This is why the dog has not improved. Also BORAX is added DIRECTLY to the 1% hydrogen peroxide solution and no water is added separately, otherwise the solution is too weak."
7/12/2006: "I have reviewed all the dog's mange treatments both by my own tests and by many contributors. It appears that many people have trouble obtaining materials, such as sodium perborate hydrate, so I revised the remedy to hydrogen peroxide plus borax solution applied only once or so every week. The solution of sodium perborate hydrate is very much similar when borax and hydrogen peroxide is added. Some have either substituted hydrogen peroxide with benzoyl peroxide.
The problem about benzoyl peroxide is the upper limit by which you can use it without effect the dog as it is somewhat more toxic if given beyond a 10% concentration. 5% is usually a safe concentration. Benzoyl peroxide because of its toxicity is somewhat of an insecticide, while hydrogen peroxide is not, what it is in the original formulation is that it is a penetrant allowing the borax to go through the skin. Now some did not like hydrogen peroxide due to its limited supplies, so they make use of apple cider vinegar. For me a regular vinegar will do. Both a vinegar and hydrogen peroxide has two similarities. It is both a penetrant and when added with a safe insecticidal material such as borax, which has an toxicity on LD 50 equivalent to that of salt, this is the preferred method. However, one should not use boric acid since there are reported deaths associated with boric acid but not borax.
Boric acid is not recommended for use as it is much more toxic than borax. Borax's toxicity is about 3000 mg/kg, which is the equivalent toxicity to about that of salt. (check wikipedia). The idea is to make a solution of borax so that the solution can cover the entire body and penetrate through the skin of the dog to kill the demodex mites, for example. To use a spot treatment by pure powder will take an infinitely long time as it does not get to it through the dog's skin.
In some cases, people have tried neem oil, mineral oil. Both of these have similar effectiveness, but in different ways. Neem oil prevents the Demodex fleas from laying eggs by modifying their hormones, while mineral oils are moderately toxic only to the demodex eggs, not necessarily killing them. However, both are very limited based on my tests in really killing the insect. You see borax will both kill the eggs, modifying the hormones and their eggs by drying them all at once. The weakness of borax is limited solubility and limited penetration of the skin which you need either vinegar, hydrogen peroxide, benzoyl peroxide (toxic), MSM or DMSO solution. Ideally 10% DMSO should be preferred.
Pine Sol has limited insecticidal effectiveness, being a contact insecticidal, and does not provide lasting killing power once it has evaporated and does not kill living fleas, but it does kill their eggs somewhat. Only a fairly concentrated solution works and it does not prevent re-laying of stray eggs by the dog. In other words, the use of neem oil, mineral oil, benzoyl peroxide, and vaseline will not prevent the recurring of mange since eggs are not just on the dog, but can be anywhere in the house. Therefore re-infection is at issue. The one magic that borax has over its neighbors is that the borax powder that the dogs leaves in the house will kill the eggs even after the dogs no longer has mange and re-infection is therefore next to impossible. However, borax has limited effect on killing the larger mites and fleas, but not mange.
I found that adding 1/8 teaspoon per liter of water of borax added to the dog's water will cause the larger fleas to dry up and die at the same time. My dog for some reason likes to eat something like more than 1 gram of the sodium perborate crystals whenever he feels sick and the fleas just die off. The borax modifies the dog's blood and kills the mange inside out. This is why borax, i.e., sodium perborate, is required for mange, but not anything else due to preventive re-infection of the mange by the powder of the borax that destroys the eggs where the dog sleeps and where it walks around throughout the house.
VASELINE: The problem about using vaseline as an insecticide is that it has limited killing of eggs, but its weakness is that it is not a penetrant, and therefore the frequency of applications will take at least once every other day. Additionally, the hair of the dog will prevent proper application.
Some have went so far as to not use a solution of borax with hydrogen peroxide as a rinse then followed likely, perhaps a borax powder after bath. On the argument of being effective only as a spot treatment. Since dogs do not have sweat glands, not using a rinse will prevent the borax from absorbing into the skin to kill the mange under its skin. So this is not going to work. You need both borax as an insecticide, the water as the solution which to spread it to the skin surface, and a reliable penetrant to get it through the skin, such as vinegar, msm, DMSO, or even hydrogen peroxide. A benzoyl peroxide is both a penetrant and insecticide, but at higher concentration is somewhat toxic for dogs and as a result you are pretty much limited by the maximum concentration not to exceed beyond 5% being a preferred safety. I would prefer to limit myself at 3%.
I therefore suggest, not to get you lost in the woods, is that whatever formulation you use, always stick with borax and borax derivatives, such as sodium perborate monohydrate being the main insecticidal chemicals for the dog.
Pyrethrum is o.k. but in very low concentration of about 0.1% - 0.2% to prevent skin irritation for the dogs near the skin infection areas. The second mix you need is always the penetrant and the third formulation is appropriate dilutions in water. To provide lasting killing effect, non of these chemicals should generally be non-volatile insecticidal mixtures, which unfortunately most recommended are, with exception of perhaps borax and bentonite. Bentonite causes eggs to dry, so they can be used also, but they have no insecticidal mixture as borax and borax can performs both killing the insect, modifying the hormones to prevent egg laying, becomes a stomach poison for the insect, and at the same time causes their eggs to dry up.
I therefore will remain very flexible about what penetrants you use including hydrogen peroxide, benzoyl peroxide (limited concentration), and vinegar. It must be noted that when formulating any mange it must be noted that they must be non-volatile and the chemicals should cause microscopic residues around the house so that re infection of mange is prevented, including mites and fleas.
I think this wraps up the basic theory and application of mange treatment, and hopefully other people will make a more effective formulations in the future at least equal or better than the original formula I have proposed. Just want to tell you that there are many ways you can treat mange, but the issue is one of toxicity, re infection, toxic levels, which portion kills it and how, and which is the penetrant which is the key to it all. Penetrant is important, the chemical must reach the target demodex under the skin. Usually hydrogen peroxide, vinegar, DMSO, and MSM will do that. It must be reminded again that borax, to work most effectively, is to prepare a solution without washing it off, followed by a small amount of borax powder to be applied if you wish. Any other application other than this such as using as purely powder form is NOT going to work.
[YEA] 06/20/2008: Rowxy from Fontana, California, U.S.A.: "TED'S REMEDY OF BORAX AND HYDROGEN PEROXIDE WORKS!! My rottweiler puppy was losing hair all over.....I tried this remedy and his coat is thick and shiny again. After 3 treatments. ( I mixed the suggested amounts in the bathtub, my dog jumped in... and i continuously poured the mixture over his entire body, for 10 minutes, let him air dry, DID NOT RINSE HIM OFF. No more scratching!! My dog is as happy as can be. THANK YOU, from both of us!!!!"
[NAY] 06/11/2008: James from Houston, Texas: "I tried everything on this site for the cure and control of Mange on my poor dog. Nothing worked and after three months of trying we had to put her down.
What we tried:
1)put ACV in her water
2)put sesame seed oil and olive oil mixed in with her food
3)Borax and H Peroxide w/H2O mixture as perscribed on site"
11/18/2008: KC from Austin, Texas replies: "Put her down? Demodex is expensive but can be controlled. You can go natural, yet if that did not work then go chemical."
12/19/2010: Stephanie from Spring, Texas replies: "We purchased two white Greman shepherds from a breeder in Dickinnson. She CLAIMS she has never had a problem with her puppies having demodex. She further claims it is not a breeding issue and that she has never heard of demodex much less it being a breeding issue and she continues to produce pups. Feel free to email me if you purchased a pup from her.
Our Zeus and Shiloh are really bad, Zeus more than Shiloh. We thought we were going to have to put him down because he was so bad off. He got better with some medication but he is still getting worse after getting him neutered. He broke out before her so we were able to get her fixed then give him antibiotics and we were able to get him fixed 2 weeks later. We have no idea what to do, the breder told us we needed to keep them on royal canin babydog 30. We did and then we switched, for a week to different food, back to royal canin baby dog 32 at 8 weeks. They continued to get worse. We switched them finally to Orijen that has no gluten in it and high quantity of fish such as salmon. It is made in Canada. We have seen them improve as far as mood and temperment but now Zeus and Shiloh are both getting worse, Zeus gets progressively worse by the day. At this point I am trying to find people who have dogs form the same litter or prior litters to see if they may have had this problem and have found a solution. They do in fact have Demdetic mange, the vet did scrapings on both of them."
[NAY] 05/28/2008: Dewain from Randolph, NJ: "Ted,
We have a 4 month old 25 lb. Lab mix. At 8 weeks she was diagnosed with scabies and demodectic mange. She completed a 3 dose regiment of 'Revolution' and is now on a daily 1 ml dosage of Ivermectin. We initially tried your (16 oz. diluted to 1% peroxide w/ 3 TB. borax solution) and was unsure of the results so we stopped it and went with the vet suggestions. The hair loss and itching continues. The vet has her on antihistimines, and after the vet's medicines, and no positive results, we went back to your borax solution. The vet recommended a shampoo that makes her brake out in lesions even worse. Seems like every time we do what's recommended, (your solution included) she breaks out in lesions, and itches and scrathes even worse. This was a shelter rescue, trucked up from Georgia to NJ. Please....Wit's End in NJ
EC: Sent to Ted for response..
03/24/2009: Casey from San Diego, CA replies: "Hi Wit's End in NJ
My uncle had a problem with his dogs some years ago. After hundreds of dollars and tests it turnes out his pup had lupus (unsure of the spelling) at first look it could have been mange, itching and balding which is what she was being treated for. Sadly because of the real problem she had to be put down. I dont know your situation in full but it might be something to have you pup tested for.
[YEA] 05/26/2008: Jen from Toronto, Canada: "Just wanted to say that I tried the borax treatment on my cats tail (he's got what is called a 'stud tail) and it worked wonders. He always had an oily tail and I tried everything even professional grooming and nothing helped before! So at least that problem is out of the way for now. But he has another problem - a hernia. Does anyone know of any treatment methods for a cat hernia? I really don't want to opt for surgery."
[YEA] 05/23/2008: Asha from Houston, TX: "Oh my gosh! I read all these posts where it said that the borax/peroxide helped their dogs, but I mean really, I was still skeptical. I just finished soaking my poor dog. He didn't have mange, just a severe case of fleas and he was tearing himself apart biting. I tried a few things and figured this couldn't hurt. I CANNOT believe it! He's already stopped scratching and he's running around all excited right now just like his old self. He was so depressed. Thank you thank you thank you...my poor baby is finally better. I'm gonna keep it up. I'm lucky enough that he won't shake at all when he's in the bathtub, so I made him stand a good long time before I let him out, where he promptly had a good shaking. Its sooo obvious that he feels better, though. May God bless you Ted!"
[YEA] 05/01/2008: Barb from Peterborough, Ontario, Canada: "I, like everyone else, has been thrilled to find Ted's mange remedy. We adopted a "pound puppy" in mid January 08, a shepherd cross who arrived with a skin condition. Just like many who have written before me, Buzzbee got a rabies shot and immediately his skin condition got worse (didn't realize this until reading Ted's info.) so we started the whole vet treatment thing. Different treatments, tests, different diagnoses and of course, lots of cost. Then my collie cross, Rosie, 11 years, started scratching. When the vet mentioned possibly mange, I went looking for a cure and with 2 weeks of baths with Ted's treatment, things are much better for both dogs. WE will continue until they are perfect I did want to make one suggestion. Since dried dog food can be a significant contributor to skin and overall health problems, (Ted has also discussed good nutrition) may I suggest the BARF diet to all readers. This is the Bones And Raw Food diet - getting canines and felines back to the food they were meant to eat. If you google BARF, you will find a wealth of information on TRUE nutrition for dogs and cats. We have been feeding this to our dogs and cats for over 3 years now and not only do they love it, it helps in so many areas. Although it can be more time consuming, it is NO more expensive than "kibble". Check it out. Thanks again Ted for this fabulous and natural remedy and I look forward to reading the Earthclinic site for a long time to come."
[YEA] 04/15/2008: Mark from Little Rock, Arkansas: "My 5 month old American Pitbull Terrier had some bad mange due to mites. We had him take a mitaban bath because the vet thought it would be in his best interest. I decided to go along with it, because I didnt know any better until I stumbled across this site. The mitaban bath was bad, it made his coat even worse. His skin was red and some parts of his body was literally hairless. Here is a picture of him I took before we started the Borax treatment:
As you can see, much of his body has patches of hair missing. He also looks sad!
After a few weeks of the borax treatment, we already saw a great improvement not only in the way he acts, but also visually. His coat is shiny, and he rarely scratches. Here is a picture of him now:
As you can see, he still has some healing to do, however there is great improvement. Him and his buddy also made a huge mess because they play rough, ;)
Dont spend money at the vet with mitaban, do this treatment. I cant tell you how happy I am with it and how much money i saved."
[YEA] 04/09/2008: Eric from Evesham, NJ: "Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide is working on demodex mange on my dog. Amazing!
I have been fighting demodex mange on my bull terrier for about a year and a half. It started when my dog was about 7 months old (he is now 2 years old) and has been not only frustrating but heart breaking. He has had red itchy paws that he would lick and bite at until they would bleed. Then, secondary infection would set in and at one point he had trouble walking because his paws were so sore. The demodex then spread to his belly, legs, anas area and around his eyes. The affected areas were either bald, thinning or red and irritated or all of the above. His skin under his belly turned thick and looked like elephant skin. And most recent he developed a postule near his tail that grew until it oozed. He has had stereo typical demodex conditions that were on the severe end of the spectrum. I have spent a huge amount of money on vet bills, medicine and potions. You name it I tried it. None of it would even cure my dog temporarily. His most recent regime of medicine he is on is Ivomec and an anti-biotic (has been on same regimine twice before with little improvement). He has been on this treatment for two months with little improvement (again).
So I found this site and desperate I thought I would give the Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide rinses and try. It has been amazing and the very next day we saw an improvement. He has now been on the solution for about a week or so and he has improved to a point which we have not seen on ANY medicine the vet gave us or lotion that was recommended to us. It is really remarkable!
I am using 1 part Hydrogen Peroxide 3% to two parts water and about 4 table spoons of Borax (20 Mule, brand Name). I bathed him with oatmeal shampoo / rinse, then an oatmeal conditioner / rinse and finally the Hydrogen peroxide and Borax solution. I leave the solution on and allow him to air dry. The shampoo and conditoner is just something we have always used to wash him so the improvement has nothing to do with that.
I am optimistically hopefull that my dog will continue to improve and we can finally take control of this demodex. This is what I am doing with the Borax:
1.Hydrogen Peroxide and Borax for bathing my dog.
2. Washing all his bedding in hot water while adding Borax to the laundry detergent.
3.Washing his crate down with Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide
4.Vacuuming all the carpet then sprinkle borax over the carpet then broom sweep it in. I will leave it on for 48hrs then vacuum it up.
5. 1 pinch of Borax to drinking water
I should also say that I will contine the ivomec and anti-biotics for another month or so in conjunction with Ted's cure. Mind you however my dog has been on this medicine for two months and twice before with very little improvement. I am hoping that everything in conjunction will eradicate this horrible mange mite.
For anyone out there dealing with this frustrating and costly ailment you should really give this regimine a try. I thought my dog would NEVER get over this condition and in one week I am amazed with the improvement. It is as close to a miracle as they come for me. I am a real person and the results are real."Replies
04/15/2011: Carrie from Columbus, Ohio replies: "I am going to try this. I have a 18 month old female bull terrier that we have tried everything for on her for the same reasons the last 2 months."
[YEA] 03/23/2008: Marsha from Nashville, TN: "cat mange cure with hydrogen peroxide, borax, and warm water. My 10 year old lynx/siamese /himalayan cat developed intense itching with loss of hair and redness around the neck recently. I thought it was hair mats at first. I called to schedule a shave for her but the vet said they would have to sedate her and get blood work first to see if it was safe to sedate her. Total price, $300! I said "never mind". I began to feel that her condition was more than hair mats. I thought it resembled the mange in dogs I'd seen. I research the net for cat mange and the symptoms matched perfectly. I found Ted's peroxide,borax,water concoction and immediately fixed up a small amount. About 3TBS borax, 2 cups warm water, and 1/2 cup hydrogen peroxide. I took a small rag and soaked it and rubbed it around her neck. She was suspcious at first of the wet rag but she was enjoying the rub to much to care for long. Before I started the application her neck was red and hairless. Within 1 hour her skin color on her neck was a light pink. I checked her the next day and the area was flesh colored and she wasn't scratching so much. I did another treatment that day for a added kill of the mites and let it rest the 3rd day. On the 4th day her hair is regrowing about an inch and she has more energy. I treated her again and rewarded her with fresh catnip. My cat never goes outside and there are no more animals around. Although on pretty days I open her window so she can perch there and watch the outside. I was thinking maybe bird mites blew on her if thats possible. Anyway the remedy works on cats too! Thankyou for saving me lots of $$$ and the unknown chemicals and added stress of going to the vet on her. Her name by the way, is Whisper and she says "Meow meow" (thats thankyou Ted)"Replies
03/23/2009: LuAnn from Spring Hill, FL replies: "I read this solution was safe for cats: (About 3TBS borax, 2 cups warm water, and 1/2 cup hydrogen peroxide. I took a small rag and soaked it and rubbed it around her neck.)
1. I bought 20 Mule Team Borax. Is this the type of borax safe to use?
2. If my cat licks this off is it dangerous?
My cat is terrified of the vet and I'm hoping to save him the trauma of a visit. Thank you for your help."
[YEA] 03/18/2008: Tracie from Highland, ca: "I rescued a 6 month old pitbull puppy from a woman who wasn't taking care of her property. We named her Nola. She was very skinny with a big swollen belly full of worms and mange starting on her face and legs. We gave her first set of shots which made her mange worse. We also dewormed her. I took her to the vet who did skin scrapings and diagnosed her with "red mange" he prescribe Ivermectin which I give her orally everyday along with antibiotics. She's gaining weight and is so sweet and very playful, but the medication doesn't seem to be working, in fact she is looking worse and she is still losing her hair. I bought borax and the peroxide, although I could only find the 3% kind, so I diluted it 2 to 1. then added the borax and the water. I gave her a bath tonight, then applied the solution all over her and made sure she didn't shake so it would have time to soak in. She then curled up in her bed and fell asleep, she looks peaceful, at least she's not chewing or scratching right now. I am praying this works for her. I have taken photos of her of how she looks right now. If this works I'll post pictures of the after. Please everyone pray for Nola!"
[YEA] 03/03/2008: jene from boise, usa: "mange cure worked miarcle on cat. I can't thank everyone enough for this cure, I used the hydrogen perixode and borax for my kitty buzzy and she is hardly licking at all. She is in good humor and rolling on the floor, i first thought it was over grooming and food allergies and on and on. I did'nt want to hear doom from the vet and tried this instead must be those pesky demorex mites. we had a pet rat and it used to be in the room where my computer and cats are only little buzzy was affected. I am going to bath in borax as a precasuion I have heard it can cause bad acne and roscea i have been only a little miserable, buzzy is smiling at me now from on top the computer desk thanks to a man with vision. She is saved,I am wishing all old chickasaw and chocktaw blessings upon you for your miracle."
[YEA] 02/28/2008: Michelle from Port Orchard, Wa.: "I am so relieved that I came across your site!
I have a 6 month old Doberman, and your remedy worked it's magic with her.
During the Christmas holiday, I left my Doberman puppy with a family friend for a couple of weeks, while I was out of town.
When I returned, I noticed a patch of missing hair on her face. At first I thought it was just a puppy battle scar. Within a few days I could see it was getting larger.
I first "assumed" it was ringworm, because of it's circular shape.
So I treated with ACV, and tea tree oil.
The patch did not get worse, but also did not improve.
I stopped the ringworm treatment, and within 48 hrs. it had spread rapidly.
I then found the Borax, hydrogen peroxide treatment.
I only needed one treatment to see, it was working. The circle stopped growing.
I did notice some hair thinning on top of her head, and did another treatment.
Within a couple of weeks, and only 2 treatments, it looks to be all gone.
The only thing I would do different, is clean the Borax of the bathroom mirrors, when it was wet.
It was difficult to clean dried. LOL
I am very Thankful!
I only had a minor case to deal with, but at the rate it was spreading, we could have been in big trouble.
[YEA] 02/20/2008: Caren from Wilmington, Delaware: "Hi there! I wrote about 6 weeks ago and I just wanted send an update on little Rocky's demodex mange. Sometime around the second week of January, (after being diagnosed with mange by our vet) We were given the routine antibiotics and mitaban dip. The dip was horrid! and Rocky was worse the next day! We did keep him on his antibiotics, but I was sick over the thought of dipping him again in two weeks. When it was explained to me that it was "normal" for him to get worse before he got better, I thought I would check for myself on the internet. I found this website and decided to try the perox/borax bath. I tried the bath two days later and noticed he had relief from the "itchies' almost immediately. After about 5 weeks of treatment,(everyday for the first few days and then 3, then 2 times a week the following weeks) Rocky is completely cured! No more red bloody itchy scabby crusty sores. His fur is thick and beautiful! I am so happy with this remedy that I had to share our experience and maybe help others to go with a more natural approach to treating this nasty little bug. I have before and after pictures ready to go, and would love to let others see our wonderful results, but dont know if I can send them in. Please let me know how to send them. What an amazing treatment this is!! Sincerely caren"
EC: Caren kindly sent us photos of Rocky's recovery from mange for the website. Posted here.
[YEA] 02/13/2008: Debra from Essex, United Kingdom: "Our dog is a rescue Shar Pei who suffered occasional bouts of mange. On reading her history we saw that she had often had antibiotics and sheep dips but we could see that these only worked for a short period and then the mange reappeared. When she came to us we had her spayed and she then suffered the worst attack of mange she has ever had. She lost all the hair on her back legs - huge patches of hair fell out from her back, tail, feet, chest and throat also. The skin was broken, bleeding and began to turn black. She was so distressed and eventually had only a few patches of hair left on her body. She constantly scratched and gnawed at herself and we thought we were going to have to put her to sleep. In desperation we searched the web and found the Earth clinic site and Ted's Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide remedy. We wash her with shampoo then dry her. Then we make up a mixture consisting of: 100mls of 9% peroxide(it is the weakest solution we can get so we have to dilute it to 1% by adding the 800mls of water), 800mls water and 7 heaped tablespoons of Borax. We stir this continually until the Borax is dissolved and then pour over her making sure that all of her is covered. Following Ted's instructions we do not dry her, we leave her to dry off in front of the fire. We have done this once a day plus added one teaspoon of Apple Cider Vinegar to her drinking water and am amazed that after doing this for 2 weeks she has nearly all her fur back and is as happy as can be. I really didn't think this would work as I was almost beyond hope for her then, she was in such a terrible state, and my family and I cannot thank Ted enough for this amazing cure. We are so grateful for your help and for all the other people on this site that told their stories. God bless you all, Deb xxx"
[YEA] 02/02/2008: Vicki from Dallas, Texas: "I am fostering a pit puppy that has demodetic mange on his face & tail. He came from a very bad situation (all 10 brothers & sisters but him & his big brother died from starvation & the cold). I had him a week & 2 days when I decided to try this remedy on him. They had been wormed a week before with only some OTC wormer, and I gave them 1st puppy shots at 7 weeks. Because of severe diarrhea, I took' the other one to an emergency vet- I thought it was possible parvo. The test was negative & I decided the mange needed to be dealt with as they already had enough problems. I bathed the affected puppy in the solution of 20 Mule Team Borax 1 TBS to about 16 oz. of old peroxide (about 1 1/2 or maybe 2 percent- all I had on hand). Puppy immediately went to sleep & slept 24 hours. I'd had to go to work & was not able to monitor him the next day. Husband was home and said he only slept, all day. On going out to check on them I saw he had depressed breathing and was showing very little sign of being able to wake up enough to drink or take food, and he was dehydrated. I looked up borate poisoning online and saw that there is no antidote and poisoning is accumalative as well. I saw that most poisoning cases are from ingesting it, but it is possible to be absorbed. I had not dried the puppy, but did wrap him in a towel after letting solution stay on for 10 minutes. Seeing the condition of the puppy scared me, as he was already very weak, despite being cared for properly for a week, so I shampooed him and attempted to rehydrate him with just water. After the first shampoo he did get up and move around some but still appeared disoriented and wobbly, and again lay down, so about an hour later I shampooed him again and syringe fed him orally with a product I keep on hand called vitamin water. The website that detailed borate poisoning said support measures were to rehydrate, administr oxygen and encourage elimination with laxatives. He had not ingested any and already had diarrhea, so instead of that, I used the guava vitamin water which states it naturally has caffeine. I also mixed a little in the water in their drinking bowl. It was not much and apparently did not hurt him, although they did stay up playing all night. I believe it actually helped his recovery from the poisoning by increasing respiration, elimination and activity. Pedialyte or Gatorade would have encouraged retention because of the sodium in them, so I did not use either one. The trip to the ER broke me, so I could not take him anywhere for oxygen. I did take him outside to the only green plants available this time of year for a while, and opened the window a little where they are staying. It appeared to help him get his breath. I urge anyone who uses the borax/peroxide solution to be careful of the age and health condition of the dog being treated. I would recommend using it only in affected spots if it is a severely debilitated animal. I intend to try again when the puppy is older and in better condition, and to make sure to use only a 1% peroxide soluation with the borax, plus perhaps only on visibly affected areas. Both puppies are doing well now, and the mange on the one seems to be much better, even though I had to wash it off after only 24 hours."
EC: The puppy's reaction sounds very similar to some of the reported side effects of pet vaccination shots. Please read all of the reader feedback on the Vaccination Side Effects page.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "If a dog has mange, and vaccination is used, the mange will get much worse with a strong reaction and terrible side effects. This happens because the immune system is trying to fight off the invading live pathogens from the vaccines at the same time fighting off the mange. One interesting case concerns a stray dog that never had the mange, once the dog found an owner, the owner promptly got it vaccinated, and within a day the dog got a terrible mange, only to be put to sleep within a month. There is a long history of vaccinations of immunization drive in San Francisco and New York, Denver Colorado, etc. just only 6 months before an AIDS epidemic came out of "nowhere" on those targeted cities.
The interesting part about this free vaccination drives in the 1980s was it was targeted at homosexuals who were sexually active. It was the same with small pox vaccines drive just a year or two before an AIDS epidemic appeared just after that immunization. The funny thing is the non-participating countries on small pox immunization had no AIDS epidemic.
Hence using vaccination on dogs might also create new disease from possible mutations of the vaccines. The best way to deal with this is to take a bath for the dog with a 1% hydrogen peroxide to reduce the "reactions" as hydrogen peroxide kills most of these and adding some H2O2 such as 0.1% in the dog's water also helped, but won't entirely stop the adverse reaction. "
[YEA] 02/29/2008: Vicki from Dallas, TX replies: "This is an update on the pit puppy that I'm fostering and who had no hair at all on his tail, and had spots on his face where the bumps were also from the demodetic mange. I'm happy to report that even though the solution was only left on for 24 hours, the mange eventually disappeared and his hair has gradually grown back. I did not have to use it again. It had been a week since the vaccinations were given before he was bathed with the borax & peroxide. Also I think perhaps I had mixed the solution a bit stronger that you recommend. As I pointed out, he and his brother were starved and near death when I got them, and the good food and vitamins probably helped their defenses once the solution had worked. Thanks!"