Table of Contents
- QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
- Apple Cider Vinegar
- Banana Stems
- Chanca Piedra
- Cinnamon, Cloves, Ginger, Apple Juice
- Coconut Oil
- Dietary Changes
- Epsom Salt
- Figs, Turmeric
- Gallbladder Cleanses
- Gallbladder Polyps
- General Feedback
- Gravel Root
- Juice Therapy
- Laser Surgery
- Lemon Water
- Lemon, Digestive Enzymes
- Magnesium Chloride
- Milk Thistle
- Milk Thistle, Dandelion, Magnesium
- Multiple Remedies
- Olive Oil and Lemon Juice
- Olive Oil and Lemon Juice, Dietary Changes
- Olive Oil, Hot Milk
- Olive Oil, Supplements
- Phyllanthus Niruri (Quebra Pedra)
- Produce Bile
- Remedies Needed
- Soluble Fiber
- Spring Water
- Swedish Bitters
- Ted's Remedies
- Yi Dan
04/06/2011: L.m. from Redding, California: "Several years ago I had an ultrsound done and they found that I have four large gallstones about 2cm in size. Of course my doctor wanted me to have my gallbladder taken out but I would not consent. Over the years I have done numerous liver/gallbladder flushes but these gallstones are to big to flush. I would like to dissolve them and I want to find out what the best formula for doing this is. I am not only interested in the formula/substance but also want to know the science behind how it works.
A friend of mine who is into natural remidies recomended a South American herb called Chanca Piedra which he said translates as "break stone. " I can't find any dosage information or instructions on the most effective way to use it. I have made tea with it but am considering putting it into capsules. If you have information regarding this herb and the most effective way to take it I would be interested. I am also interested if you know of any other substance that would dissolve these monster stones I have.
05/15/2011: Celt33 from Toronto, On, Canada replies: "L. M. I have been using the Chanca Piedra from AOR for about 2 weeks now and about 90% of the symptoms are gone. I take one capsule 3 times a day on an empty stomach."
08/14/2011: Ojo from Singapore replies: "If you go and search for online websites selling this herbs. They will have dosage and reviews"
[YEA] 05/29/2012: D. Jones from Seaford De, De replies: "Just wanted to say that I have been using Chanca Piedra for 2 years and it should be the first option in my opinion. I have used high doses of vit C as well as Chanca Piedra, lethicin, and magnesium for gallstones. I tried many things but Chanca and vit C would be my first move as well as lethicin and magnesium. Also I started to lessen the chanca after some time and added biotin and fenugreek which is good for diabetes as well. Of course a healthy diet and lower fat intake is a must. Having gone through the attacks and what I call the heats, I wouldn't be without the Chanca and C. It took me 6 months to find out about these supplements and I hate to see someone else suffer needlessly. I used the 400 mg of Chanca 3x's a day till relief then cut back to once a day, maybe 2 if I had any fatty meal or snacks, I love walnuts. And I started out at 1000 mg of C 3x's a day, probably could take more. Somebody advised me on the C and I believe that to be a huge help too. Taurine is something to look into as well. Hope this helps someone as well, the cleansing did not help me so this was a blessing when I got this info."
07/13/2012: Ed2010 from Oakville, Canada replies: "Chanca Piedra, is Phylanthus Niruri. It is the stonebreaker.
The annual herb Phyllanthus niruri is best known by the common names Stonebreaker(Eng. ), Chanca Piedra(Sp. ) and Quebra Pedra(Port. ), Seed-Under-Leaf(Eng. ) but has many other common names in assorted languages, including dukong anak, dukong-dukong anak, amin buah, rami buah, turi hutan, bhuiaonla, Meniran (Indonesia), (Malayalam) and / Keela Nelli (Tamil). The herb is known as Nela Nelli in Kannada and "Nela Usiri" in Telugu. It is a widespread tropical plant commonly found in coastal areas. It is a relative of the spurges, belonging to the leafflower genus of Family Phyllanthaceae.
I should say about this herb. Phylanthus Niruri, used to grow in abundance around my house in India. I used to pluck and eat it just like that during my childhood.
This is the top most potent herb for liver than Milk Thistle or any other herb. It is used in Unani, Ayurvedha, Siddha herbal medical system for more than 5000 years. If possible, you can contact any Indian herbal practitioner for accurate dosage.
Himalaya company also sells P. Niruri capsules. You can follow their dosage.
You can start with 2 capsules per day. If you want to be very safe then eat 2 tsp of chywanprash which contains Phylanthus Niruri (chanca piedra) and many other herb for your whole body.
One more info, Phylanthus Niruri is extremely potent and Heat(in ayurvedic and Siddha theory)Producing herb, so don't over use it. EC, pls don't mention this as a side effect because there will be no side effect by using this herb other than it is heat producing.
*Heat is the body's fire - Pitta (fire/water)
Even I am going to start eating this herb occassionaly for general health.
Hope this helps someone."
03/19/2013: Rei from Venice, Fl, Usa replies: "Stevenson, I see that your post did get on the board yesterday, but it was posted quite a ways above, rather than below to keep the timeline easy to read. I guess it got placed in the wrong area??? Nonetheless, I did find it! Maybe they can change the placement of it perhaps for other readers to be able to follow...?"
EC: Yes, we needed to separate the conversation into a new thread! Done and done.
Please note, most of this conversation has now been moved to a new Soluble Fiber for Gallstones content area.
03/19/2013: Stevenson from Vancouver, Bc, Canada replies: "EC and Rei, thanks for your help with this. I was getting a little discouraged thinking that things would be deleted that people should know about which had me a little spooked."
EC: Not to worry. We rarely delete posts unless they are product-plugging or inappropriate. On occasion, however, our server has been known to reject posts for unknown coding reasons. Bill from the Philippines can attest to that! A few of his never made it through.
Cinnamon, Cloves, Ginger, Apple Juice
[YEA] 02/06/2006: Can from Edirne: "mix cinnamon-cloves-ginger and apple juice in a glass this will help gallstones remove from the gallbladder."Replies
12/29/2010: Arthur from Birr,co,offaly, Ireland replies: "To Whom it may concern,
I have just read your cure for gallstones and I would like if you would send me the amount's of each item that I would have to mix as a cure, my wife has been diagnosed with gallstones and is soon to have an operation and it would be great if I could try this cure first. Many thanks. Arthur Elliott."
12/30/2010: Tom from Regina, Sk replies: "Arthur: There are many sites that have the gallbladder flush and specifics. Here's a few. BTW, they use a 'one size fits all' dosage, regardless of body weight which in adults can vary by 3:1 or more.
Hulda Clark flush from CureZone, posted up on scribd. com:
Direct link to curezone Clark flush:
[YEA] 05/19/2011: James P. from Fargo, Nd replies: "The prep was easy, the mixes were pretty nasty tasting, but afterward I only felt minor "gurgling" on right flank.... Nothing painful or extraordinary. The next day I had a pretty serious case of diarrhea and released about 100 m&m sized green pellets. I couldn't believe it!! It's hard to believe that a natural, non-invasive and $12 solution to this problem exists! I'm going to try it again in a month, to rehydrate myself and to prevent a low in potassium! Thanks everyone!"
07/02/2011: Mitzi from Amarillo, Tx replies: "To James P from Fargo: Which method did you use? My daughter has been diagnosed with a gallbladder full of tiny stones. She doesn't want surgery and if she can pass them or dissolve them it would be much better. You said you passed 100 or more but didn't explain the method you used. Please let me know. Thanks."
10/19/2011: Seema from Delhi, New Delhi replies: "My mother suffering from gallbladder stones- stone size is 3mm or 4mm 8-9 stones. She was 60 years old, weight is 29 kg, heart -patient, high b. P, aurthrities, heap-replacement surgery is already done in june 2011. In that time we prefer only naturalpathy. We see your site and started apple, ginger, clove, cinnamon juice only two spoons. It sufficent or this thing is remove gallbladder stones. Tell me the proper quantity or if it's effective or not."
11/10/2011: Molly from Qualicum, Bc Canada replies: "I read Andreas Moritz book on the "Amazing Liver & Gallbladder Flush". It is an excellent tool to help get rid of stones. Lately I found the enteric coated peppermint capsules have almost been a miracle. They are supposed to help dissolve the stones, plus the pain is gone within about 15 minutes. You have to take them in between meals on an empty stomach. Sometimes I just take them in the middle of the night if I wake up. Gold Coin Grass tincture helps (available from SensibleHealth. Com) and some of their other tinctures help clear the congested bile. Another good site is GallbladderAttack.com"
06/13/2012: Loramae from Watford City, Nd, Usa: "I have been suffering with gallstones now for some time and I was reading about Evco and how the Mayo clinic has been using it to disolve gallstones. My question is how much of this am I suppose to take? how often? I have been taking 1 tbs a week. Please help with this as I would love to keep my gallbladder. And also get rid of this pain. Thanks"Replies
06/13/2012: Tina from Houston, Usa replies: "Kombucha consumption for gallstones is a tremendous way to dissolve them. Start 4 oz daily and build upto 32 oz daily within few weeks.
Check http://culturedfoodlife.com/ to see how to brew kombucha at home for pennies. Ferment/brew for atleast 9 days which is when all properties to dissolve stones are generated in the tea.
If consuming store bought kombucha, allow to sit on counter for 3-4 days to ferment more. Store bought ones are sweeter for the general public taste, but longer fermented kombucha that tastes slightly like vinegar has the properties to dissolve stones.
Additionally golden flax seeds in hot water can be sipped to get relief from stones. Google to find exact recipe.
I use coconut oil upto 3 tablespoon daily (1 tablespoon at a time) to help heal. If you experience pain with this quantity reduce the amount since fat consumption causes GB pain.
http://www.gallbladderattack.com/ is tremendous wisdom on dealing with this issue.
06/14/2012: Timh from Louisville, Ky, USA replies: "Having no stones pass on my last 2 day flush I later found that my consumption of D-Limonene (Orange Peel Extract) may have been responsible as it is also a cholesterol stone emulsifyer."
08/15/2011: Ramaprasadtnc from Ahmaedabad, Gujarat/india: "recently, fortnight, ago i was dignosed with small gallstones. I was told there was no way to reduce them but only to wait till it starts paining and remove the bladder. I read on the net that coconut oil could dissolve them and started taking, 10 ml thrice a day and waiting for the sonography again. No observed side effects yet. I am 73 yrs. Male and a diabetic for long. Can anybody tell me how long I have to wait before sonography again to know the benefit if any?"
[NAY] 02/09/2013: Brenda from New York , New York: "Hi, I was diagnosed with a gallstone 2 yrs ago. Just 1 1.5cm approx and opted not to have the gall bladder out. It doesn't makes sense to me. However, I don't really know what I'm doing and I may be causing more problems. I have never eaten fried food or any sweets since. Meat is mainly salmon, chicken, turkey or occasionally lamb No animal stocks, only vege. I get some olive oil or avocado daily for fat. I make all of my own meals. I recently I had my first major attack in 2years, but I did not have any fat at all. I made a pizza with fat free cheese for dinner and about 2hrs later it started, lasted the typical 4hrs and subsided. That was really confusing. And since then, I have constant irritation. Maybe it's alot of gases, however, Otherwise I eat mainly organic diet, with a good amount of fresh veges and fruit, and sip water throughout the day. I am commited to keeping the gallbladder, but, I don't know how to keep from having problems.
I recently started Lecithin gel capsules with olive leaf before I go to bed. I take vit D3 and calcium in the am. Also, my weakness is occasional creme in my coffee and on the weekends a couple glasses of wine. Can some one explain why the wine is bad? When it was originally diagnosed, by a gastro he wanted to take it out becaue as he said that's what they do. The U/S showed the 1 stone and multiple calculi that were so small they could not be measured. Beyond surgery he would not assist me, so I'm in the dark. I took acupuncture for about 6 months and chinese herbs which caused me to PAINLESSLY pass the calculi. It had no effect on the larger stone. I lost my job and could not afford to continue. I will start the Chanca Piedra this week, but can someone advise me on navigating this alone? I don't want to hold onto the gallbladder and and damage other areas."Replies
02/09/2013: Anon from Anon replies: "Hi, I have read that when bile is stagnant in the gall bladder when you eat a low fat diet then the stagnant bile causes sludge and stones to form then if you eat a fat meal then the gallbladder is stimulated atlas to release bile and it tries to release the sludge too hence pain. So really you should work at dissolving/ or flushing the stones and then eat normal diet including fat so gallbladder can function properly."
02/09/2013: Ed2010 from Oakville, Canada replies: "Chaca Piedra is the real medicine to break the stones. Or even take chanca piedra tea.
Try juice therapy variety of juices throughout the day: apple juice, tamarind juice, lemon juice, carrot juice, lemon juice
And Ted's Alkalizing formula.
Check the following link: http://earthclinic.com/CURES/gallstones4.html#JUICE
the juice therapy will soften the stone and wash it away. Have your regular diet, don't take Calcium tablet. Carrot juice is enough for nutrition.
02/13/2013: Brenda from Croton Falls , Ny replies: "Thanks to all for your help. I will add Chanca Piedra this week and will make sure I get fat into my diet. I'm such a novice at this, I GREATLY appreciate your feedback. I will check in and let you know if it's improving. Thank you again!"
03/11/2014: Todd from Battle Creek Mi replies: "Hi Brenda, I would like to know how the Chanca Piedra has worked for you. I have suffered with gull stone issues for a long time. I have done flushes over the years but alstrosound still shows a large stone near gulbladders. I am taking erb supplements called stone free, you get them at most health food stores and they do work. But I do need something stronger to finally rid the worst of the stones."
09/18/2013: Rachel from Valley Park, Mo: "Hi, I read here about the Epsom salt together with lemon, olive oil and apple juice for Gallstone flush. Can you pls let me know where I can buy the Epsom salt coz the Epsom salt that I have been looking on the internet are for bathing, not edible. Thanks! Rachel"Replies
09/19/2013: Bess from Calgary, Alberta, Canada replies: "Hi Rachel from Valley Park - If you need the epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) right away, instead of ordering online, you can find them in just about any pharmacy (including those in large stores like Walmart or some grocery stores). Most people use the salts for bathing or soaking their tired feet, but it can be used for flushes as well. Do make sure it's pure magnesium sulfate without any additives (it should state that on the label). Some brands add fragrance (like lavender) or other ingredients (like menthol crystals).
Before you begin, you may want to see if your library has The Liver and Gallbladder Miracle Cleanse by Andreas Moritz. He goes into great detail about what to expect and there is a Frequently Asked Questions section in the back.
Here is what he says about the composition of epsom salts:
Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) can be found in mountain regions and is contained in sea salts. It is also manufactured synthetically by combining natural minerals.
Good luck! Bess"
[YEA] 10/01/2006: Ahmed from Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: "Dry Figs cures Gall Stone and Prostate. If consumed 50 Gms daily, will ease passing urine in 3 days. (It's my personal observation) To clear gall stone, do this 2 months contineously. (I read this in a book and my sister got cured by this as confirmed by before/after ultrsounds) Thanks."
[YEA] 04/05/2007: Fran from Rocky Face, Ga: "I had read where dried figs rid the body of gallstones, also Turmeric but I also read where you had to be careful using Turmeric as it could cause a gallbladder attack. I still took it in hopes of riding them and it did cause my back to hurt some but not to bad but be carful if using Turmeric. Also, I read where you can use Garlic Oil. Also, I found something else which started with a F but I am having a hard time finding that web site again. The herb was out of INDIA I think..I thought it was wideworldbotanicals.com"Replies
03/23/2009: Frida from Waco, Texas replies: "do you think it was Fenugreek?"
11/05/2010: Nurioneheart from Tacoma, Wa, Usa replies: "Fenugreek is a very useful little seed, I made an infusion of it and drank a cup of it every day. In my experience it is a blood cleaner among other benefits, so it couldn't hurt to use it while having gall and liver issues."
Gall Bladder Cleanses for Gallstones
For long-term relief from gall bladder attacks, Hulda Clark’s olive oil and lemon juice liver and gall bladder cleanse seems to be the most effective option. However, it is a somewhat complicated remedy, so please find a reputable online source for the cleanse and follow it closely.
[YEA] 06/02/2013: Tx Kel from Frisco, Tx, USA: "Story: my mom's (74) Dr told her there was a strange sound in her abdomen. She had an ultrasound. Nothing wrong, but they saw "shadowing consistent with gall stones, but no thickening of the gall bladder walls". Dr told her to change her diet and if she was ever in pain from the stones they would remove her gall bladder. So, since I love Earth Clinic we started to do research. We found lots of testimonies from people who had success removing their gall stones.
Remedy: We found Hulda Clark's paper on how to cleanse. Wanting to do it correctly my mom started with the parasite cleanse for 16 days. Cost was about $20-$30. (I'm doing it too and my stores here in Texas are cheaper than my moms in Oregon). Neither of us saw any evidence of parasites, but feel like this is a good thing to do first, after all the reading on the Internet. Hulda Clark recommends doing a kidney cleanse next but my mom skipped that one. ( I'm a few weeks behind her and have not done the next one. But will do my own story as an update. Reason I'm doing it is I read Gall stones can be hereditary. I'm 43 and have no symptoms)
Results: the liver cleanse is easy and cheap. About $10. My mom couldn't find Ornithine so didn't use it. It takes 24 hrs and you need to rest for that time. Obviously my moms case is very mild, no thickening of the gall bladder walls and no pain. She said the whole cleanse was easy and painless. She started at 2 pm and followed the directions exactly. The next morning she passed about 50 bright green stones. This may be too much info, but you should know this: most of them float in the toilet. Your system is empty from the fast you do, so there isn't much else that comes out. She did see lots of bright yellow flakes she believes are unformed ones. She collected a few and fouls the stones to be soft like clay. That's probably how they are able to exit the gall bladder, because they are soft. Once they dry they become hard again. She is going to take them to her Dr for verification. But if you google gall stones and look at the images they are very unique looking and we can't believe how what she passed could be anything but gall stones. She kept passing them from 6 am- 2pm. She estimates there were over 100. They were about the size of a grain of rice up to the size of the eraser on a pencil. She is so greatful to Earth Clinic! This was so easy and much better than the thought of surgery. She plans to do the whole cleanse again in 6 months. I will do an update as we go along. I hope this story helps others wanting info."Replies
06/23/2013: Tx Kel from Frisco, Tx, Usa replies: "Here's my personal update. As mentioned above I have no symptoms. My mom did a cleanse and I thought I should do one as well. I followed Huldia Clark's recipe. The salts tastes yucky but not hard to drink. I couldn't find Orthanine and slept just fine. My stomach talked a lot and did cramp. Not too bad but I knew something was happening!!
Plan 24 hrs of relaxing and not doing much. I felt a bit yucky.
But, at 10am the next morning I started passing stones. Probably about 50-100. The largest was 3/4" long and egg shaped. No pain. But a bit unsettling!!! Mine are larger than my moms. Getting my husband to do it. Will post his update as well. My mom and I plan to do it again in 6 months and will post updates."
09/06/2013: Sanaila from Pakistan replies: "I have an 8 mm stone in my gall bladder.. I do not want surgery.. Kindly help me to get rid of this stone.. Besides this I have a renal cyst of 4 cm.. And polycystic ovaries and a fibroid in uterus.. This therapy for gall bladder wil effect other problems in a bad way?? I am really worried about this.. Kindly reply me soon... Thanks"
09/06/2013: Mike Giller from Denver, Colorado replies: "Sanaila: When the body makes hard stuff nanobacteria move in causing inflammation. The hard stuff prevents nutrients and oxygen from getting to the tissues. This is a main cause of degenerative illnesses according to the famous naturopath doctor David Wolfe who has given over 2700 lectures world wide. Fortunately God's Goodies can cure everybody of anything. You can become completely well. Salt, sulfer, acids in ferments and fruits like lemons, and the enzymes papain in papaya and bromelain in pineapple soften and dissolve hard stuff. Magnesium removes calcified minerals from the soft tissues and deposits them in the bones. Dead sea salt has 100 mg of magnesium per gram. For sulfer crush 1 clove of garlic, wait 15 minutes, heat at around 160 degrees for 5 minutes. Take several times a day. The sulfer not only dissoves the hard stuff but also forms hydrogen sulfide gas. This compound expands the capillaries and kills the nanobacteria. For salt take sun dried sea salt or himalaya salt. Make 1 quart of water kefir and take 4 cups a day. The acid dissolves the hard stuff and the microbes improve the digestive and immune system. Green papayas have more papain than regular papayas. Study edible wild plants, soaking nuts and seeds, sprouting, lactofermentation, and water kefir. Your family, friends, and loved ones can assist you. Google The Vitamin D Council and the Weston A Price Foundation. Watch raw superfood, raw organic 80/10/10 vegan, green smoothies, organic gardening, and permaculture videos on youtube for inspiration."
09/07/2013: Louwrence from Rustenburg, South Africa replies: "Hi Sannaila, Search the net how to do a liver cleanse with epsom salts, lemon & olive oil, I have done it numerous times & it works & it is cheap & painless. Good luck."
[YEA] 02/06/2012: Bob from Beijing, China: "Learned about the gall bladder cleanse of apples, Epsom salt, and oil/juice procedure. Tried it and had good success passing about 20 plus little soft pebbles about the size of papaya seeds. Feel great!
Want to thank you for your site particularly the organization of it so that on can see yea, nay experiences in terms of numbers and real life experiences.
Yea, yea, yea for this method for me and am telling others. Family members now trying. And, looking forward to checking out other mass successful remedies.
Proof is in the pudding :)"
08/21/2011: Alexandra from Chicago, Illinois: "Hi,
I was diagnosed this past week with Gallstones. I am a 26 yr old female. The Dr. in the ER said I need my Glallbladder removed (big surprise, yeah right). I had nightmarish Biliary Colic and could not breathe during the Colic attack. I've heard a great deal about these olive oil, lemon, epsom cleanses. My question is: How many of you have actually done any of these cleanses and then CONFIRMED via Ultrasound that the cleanse ACTUALLY was successful in removing the stones from the Gallbaldder. It's not enough to just see what you THINK are Gallstones in the toilet as it could be a byproduct of the ingredients of the cleanse. Can anyone say that they had confirmation of success by getting an Ultrasound AFTER their cleanse. I am very interested in dissolving my stones, as my Dr. Tells me that the size of the stones are "key" in terms of being able to pass them safely. Thanks much ^_^."Replies
08/21/2011: T from Houston, Usa replies: "Hi, You will find http://gallbladderattack.com/index.shtml very helpful. Helped resolve my gallstones, especially eating beets before each meal.
I was told not to do the cleanse, which could contribut to the stones getting lodged in the duct. So I have not dont those.
But what I did that helped eliminate them (in addition to eating beets) is an alternative healing called 'pranic healing'. Please google it and find someone who can do this for you, in a few sessions, they can be dissolved and you can verify this with an ultrasound."
01/29/2012: Brad Shad from Providence, Rhode Island replies: "To Vandana, about questioning the liver stones. I have done 3 flushes with the second one producing the best result. Im not sure either what is being expelled except what I obviously read online. But I did read somewhere that olive oil will not co-agulate. It needs to be much cooler to bind and being 98.6 degrees it's not happening. "
01/16/2013: Alexandra from Chicago, Illinois replies: "Hello T, thank you fr your response. I am under the Care of a Digestive specialist Naturopath here in Chicago. She told me absolutely NOT to do ANY of these methods that claim to flush or pass the stones as it can put your life in danger.
You mentioned Pranic Healing. I will look into that immediately. I only care to follow any treatments under the care of my Natual Doctor. I do not and will not try anything without my docotrs apporoval. Thank you for sharing that. I will send that info to my doctor for her review.
My big questions are this: You say you had gallstones...
-Were you having gallstones attacks?
-Did you have confirmation by a doctor that you had gallstones in your gallbladder before you began any treatmen?
- If you know for a fact that you had gallstones, have you had an ultrasound to confirm that the treatment you used was successful in dissolving your stones?
My doctor tells me to ask these questions of others online. It is important to know that you have had confirmation of successful treatment. It is not enough to just say that you feel better. I hear that Chanca Piedra is promising and I will investigate the furthur as well. I thank you so much for sharing with me. I look forward to your response. It means a lot considering there are very few safe and worth while recommendations from others out there. Everyone is stuck on the olive oil and lemon juice idea and it is downright dangerous. I hope you see this and respond. Thank you again!"
06/23/2013: Tx Kel from Frisco, Tx, Usa replies: "I also was wondering the same thing, but when you google Gallstones and look at the images you will have your answer. There are 100's of photos and all the stones look the same. What you pass after the cleanse could be nothing else! I imagine huge ones wouldn't pass, but they come out soft like clay. Also there will be flakes and strange size pieces that could be from a large one. After a lot of research I did not find anyone who ever got one stuck during the cleanse that followed Huldia Clark's cleanse exactly. That's just my opinion and I was happy with the results!!"
[YEA] 10/27/2010: Elle from Toronto, Canada: "I have also used Hulda's flush many times with great success but have always taken the ornithine as recommended. It helps you go to sleep and stay asleep so as not to be disturbed by the discomfort you may experience through the night. I prefer using fresh squeezed pink grapefruit juice with the olive oil (personal taste) and read a little trick that I tried the last time.... That is to add a tablespoon of grapefruit juice to the Epsom salts to help mask the taste and it definitely helps. I also found drinking both the oil mixture and the Epsom salt mixture through a straw helps cut down on the taste. Thanks for the apple cider vinegar tip and the magnesium advice too..... I am still making gallstones and can't figure out why. I am definitely trying all of the suggestions."Replies
[YEA] 01/07/2011: Jamiesimko from La Mirada, Ca, Usa replies: "Just did the Liver/Gallbladder flush today and watched about 120 stones come out of my body. It works. Do it!"
04/29/2010: Pat from Athens, Al, Usa: "I had my gallbladder removed in 1997 - full of stones including some that looked like "tater tots" (no kidding)
My question(s): does the body still produce these in the absence of the gallbladder? if so how and where? How are these things best eliminated? What benefits might I see if I were to follow such a cleanse? (if neede due to not having the gallbladder in the 1st place)What would be the best of the kazillion cleanses out there for such a situation (IF needed). I'm doing the ACV with baking soda, blackstrap molasses, and coconut oil already - only recently however (about a week or so now).
02/23/2011: Chanda from Luxemburg, Wi replies: "Gallstones can indeed form after removing the gallbladder. My grandma had hers out 50 years ago, but I'm in the hospital as we speak after her second surgery in two months to remove them. In fact, her gastroenterologist said he'd never seen so many stones in a patient. She pretty much lives on soda, canned food, and frozen dinners, like Ted said. I'm going to see if I can get her to drink ACV."
12/31/2012: Mo from Tempe, Az replies: "No one is answering the original question of ultrasound verification. Therefore, the flushes are a hoax."
02/27/2013: Sharin from Duncan , Az replies: "I don't know if it's a hoax or not. The 3 times I have gallbladder pain, yes they diagnosed in a hospital, when I got the pain as I am today, I've always used the olive oil lemon, if nothing else its takes my pain away. I've only had 3 attacks, in 3 yrs. I think the oil just makes them move thru a little easier, I've never seen them in my stools, though after doing the drinks. But I only do it when I feel them starting up again. I eat well, I do have kidney disease, so I have to be careful with anything I put in my body.
Good luck to all."
03/23/2010: Roro from Dublin, Ireland: "Hello,
I have just had an ultrasound and I have a Gallstone that is 1.9cm Is it possible to do a gall bladder flush with a stone this size. Will it not get stuck in the bile duct."
[YEA] 07/14/2010: Gigi from Staten Island, Ny replies: "I had my first gall bladder attack in November 2009. I knew what it was because all the women in my family have had their gall bladders removed. Ultrasound revealed that my gall bladder was completely filled with sludge and stones, but it was not enlarged or inflamed. I was told by two doctors that surgery was my only option. I refused and went the natural route. I went on a strict low fat diet, lots of fruits and veggies, veggie juices, chicken, turkey and fish. My only fat was olive oil. This helped a lot but I still had occasional colic attacks in the middle of the night and belching after eating. I went through a period of acid reflux (2 tbs. ACV and honey in warm water took care of it). Then I shifted to not digesting my food at all and throwing it up 6 hours after eating. That was awful. It prompted me to visit a chiropractor/nutritionist who was very into herbal treatment for health conditions. He has been a God send. He gave me digestive enzymes which immediately took care of the problem. He started me on liquid herbs (Milk Thistle, Stone Root, and Fringe Tree) 30 drops each, 3x/day to start dissolving the stones and thinning out the sludge. I also took spirulina, and aloe vera. After six weeks on this regimen, I did my first liver/gall bladder flush (Dr. Clarke's) and passed about 40 bright green stones, most were pea sized, a few were larger. However, I didn't notice much improvement in the way I felt. I took a break for a week then went back on the herbs and did another flush about three weeks later. I passed another 15 or so green stones, same size range. Then, I passed what I can only describe as rocks. Smaller, beige colored, calcified stones (about 20 or so). It was unbelievable. After this flush, the belching and the night attacks went away, except for two nights when I felt pressure (not pain) just enough to wake me, but didn't last long. I just completed my third flush today and passed 43 more stones. I will continue to flush until all the stones are out. I truly believe that you can cleanse and heal your gall bladder, but you have to be diligent through the process and willing to make long term changes in your diet. I have also lost weight, which is a nice benefit to my new healthy diet. FYI - The flush is easy and painless. You just have to set aside an entire day for it. Another tip for gall bladder attacks- a glass of organic apple juice and a heating pad usually relieves an attack within an hour."
[YEA] 07/22/2010: Gigi from Staten Island, New York replies: "For those of you who are afraid of flushing. . . Don't be. I wish I had done it sooner. Some of my stones were surprisingly large, but they passed with no problems, no discomfort. I do strongly recommend preparing for it beforehand. Lots of apple juice is a must as it softens the stones. Milk Thistle is good for the liver, Stone Root and Fringe Tree work on softening and breaking up stones. Take these herbs for a few weeks before flushing. The epsom salts open up the ducts so the stones can pass through easily. It really works. Go for it."
[YEA] 11/23/2010: Suzanne from Canton, Ga replies: "Just completed my first gall bladder and liver flush. I was diagnosed 2 years ago with a diseased gall bladder and was told I needed to have my gall bladder removed. At the time, I didn't have insurance and could not afford the surgery.
After much prayer, I decided to try changing my diet. I went completely organic and removed all processed foods from my diet. Began taking ACV, but not regularly. Symptoms went away for almost 2 years and I have felt great. However, recently I began to experience the dull ache just under my right rib cage again. I've been reading about Hulda Clark's gall bladder and liver flush for about 2 years and was afraid to do it. I was afraid something would get lodged and I might end up in the hospital.
But, after reading the comments on earth clinic, I decided to go ahead and try. It was as many have said easy and painless. I did experience nausea during the night, and still have a little nausea going on. I think as soon as I eat the nausea should pass. But, I have collected maybe 60 stones varying in size. The largest was about 7 cm. I will probably try this cleanse again in about 3 weeks. Thanks to everyone who posts their experiences!"
10/13/2011: Faisal from Blackburn, Lancashire replies: "Hello, did you use the 'ornithine' mentioned in Dr.Klarks method? And is it necessary to do a parasite & kidney flush before doing gallbladder flush?"
[YEA] 11/01/2011: Brenda from Calgary, Canada replies: "I just did the gall bladder flush on saturday. I followed Clark's directions with the following changes:
- for 3 days prior I took Apple Cider Vinegar twice a day. Also, the day before I took Cascara Sagrada to clean out my bowels.
- I substituted 3 fresh lemons for the grapefruit. I did not mix the olive oil and lemon juice together. I just drank the oil in one shot and then followed with the lemon juice in one shot.
- I layed down immediately on my back (head slightly raised) with a heating pad on my gall bladder and liver area. I didn't move at all for the first half hour. I had ready at one click, an old movie I enjoy watching, that I call my 'comfort movies' so the time went by fast and I was really relaxed. I turned onto my right side after that.
- I didn't take the 'ornithine' as mentioned. I did wake up at 1am, as our dog was barking, and once awake, I noticed everything really rumbling and felt a little nausea. After an hour of being awake I took a sleep aide with just 2 gulps of water. Slept till about 6:30am.
After completing the second glass of morning water and epsom salt I started to pass stones. I am still in shock at the amount of stones I passed. I think I passed close to 1000 stones. 10 stones were extremely large, about 100 mid-sized, and just hundreds and hundreds of pea size stones. My stones were all yellow/fluorescent green in color.
My right side is very tender the last 3 days but no more gall bladder pain. I am eating a very light diet to give my liver and gall bladder time to rest and recuperate.
This worked very well for me. And anyone that doubts they are stones, let me tell you, it hurt to pass the large stones out my rectum. They are hard. They have not dissolved after 3 days, as some websites that doubt this process suggest, and believe it is just a side effect of the oil and lemon juice. In my opinion, that kind of thing that resembles stones, are the result of cleansing the intestines. That's why a kidney and intestinal cleanse are suggested first before you try the gallbladder/liver cleanse. You get better results if you do (in my opinion... Once again)
Happy Health Everyone! Thank you to Earth Clinic for this site!"
01/13/2012: Desertpunky from Socaldesert, Ca/usa replies: "I have been a follower and reader of Dr. Hulda Clark since 1995. Her protocol is to parasite cleanse then kidney cleanse and then liver cleanse. She encourages this because she believes as well as her research reveals that some of the 'stones' are calcified parasites. Unburden your body of the parasites, clean the kidneys because they will be burdened by handling all the 'poisons' from the liver cleanse. The Epsom salts keep the bile ducts open by relaxing them. The stones will exit easier. I have done this cleanse several times, but busy schedule precludes me from a thorough kidney cleanse.
During the liver cleanse, usually my body sucks up all the magnesium and I don't even get loose stools, so I don't know how much of the stones come out. The ornithine is necessary to clear the brain of the ammonia of any die-off of parasites and will work for anyone with insomnia problems, despite a liver cleanse.
On another note, we as we get older have more of a problem of less acid in our stomachs than more. A shot of ACV or sip all day helps that acid increase and aid digestion. We need acid in the stomach to digest food as well as kill any parasites. These days, these doctors are setting people up for disease/parasitic issues because we are all killing the acid in our stomachs with OTC antacids, etc. For 'heart burn' we take some water with ACV to cut the upset. This is our remedy and it works for us."
01/28/2012: Vandana from Phnom Penh, Cambodia replies: "I tried this method and sure enough there were green pea like structures expelled out the next day. I, in my curiosity wanted to get these things tested. I kept them out to dry and after two days noticed the "stones" decreasing in size, they also exuded an oily stuff. The "stones" turned mushy. There were no remains of the so called stones after another two days. Finally, the picture came to the forefront. This is not expulsion of stones, it is saponification, a process somewhat like soap making. The oil, acid in and the lemon juice react to form those "stones". The epsom salt is a laxative and that is why they are expelled out. How do I otherwise see the olive oil which I drank on my drying dish? I am not at all convinced by this method. Also, how does the lemon juice and olive oil reach or have any effect on the gallbladder so as to push them out? The bile reaches the digestive tract, the food does not go through the liver. Just give it a thought before you do this. I did it and now I am convinced that it has nothing to do with liver cleanse.
Has anyone ever got those "stones" tested in a lab?
If yes, I would like to know about it."
02/14/2012: Sandy from Brookline, Ma Usa replies: "Is it safe to take milk thistle and dandelion etc. If you are on meds-venlafaxine, trazdone and gabapentin? thanx"
06/09/2012: Whisperingsage from Northeastern California, Ca, Usa replies: "Vandana; I worried about the same issue- that the green would be the olive oil. So I found someone who had taken just the Apple Cider Vinegar, and I took a quart in 3 days. I had an ultrasound and the smug tech was sure I would have stones (evidently EVERYBODY has stones). But he shut up because the results came out negative. They were gone.
Before that, I had gone on the Atkins cholesterol protocol since I reasoned stones were majorly cholesterol. Part of that I remember was Vitamin E, PABA, Vit B6, inositol, lecithin, taurine, Vit C, niacin 1500 mg, dimethylglycinate (the precursor to Vitamin B15), and a few other things. That protocol alone had me passing hundreds of the small ones first, a beautiful emerald green. As I got those out, they gradually got more painful to pass and larger, and I could pop those out 70% of the time with coffee (I am not a natural coffee drinker, but this was for medicine), sometimes peppermint and sometimes I had to resort to the vinegar. Finally, I just had large ones left and I wanted to be rid of them all and be done with it, so bypassing the oil, and epsom salts, I just held my nose and drank the vinegar in fairly large doses. That got the rest of them out. That was when I had the ultrasound and was negative.
By the way, apple juice never helped me. I think I have a fructose sensitivity and the high fructose in the apples, just kept my liver making stones.
Nobody has said this, but look up fructose rats and you will find there are dozens of studies showing fructose cause triglyceride abnormalities, diabetes, metabolic syndrome, enlarged heart and congestive heart failure, and fatty liver disease, and finally gall stones. Fructose is very bad for your liver."
[YEA] 01/27/2010: Lovelylia from San Diego, Ca: "Gallstones Pain Nausea = Nightmare!
My first gallbladder attack came on abruptly in my early twenties. I had just started school at San Diego State University. I was running to class, dodging gi-normous sheets of rain (this was in the late 90s during the infamous El NiÃƒÂ±o storms). Out of nowhere, a flood of nausea welled up from my solar plexus and I found myself doubled over. The pain was so sharp and sudden that it practically knocked the wind out of me. My boyfriend just stared at me wide-eyed and panic-stricken. After about 5 minutes, I recovered enough to make it to class, but afterward I was totally freaked out, because... I mean, what the heck WAS that?
The bouts of pain and nausea continued over the next week, and by then I was seriously tripping. All I could think was that 1. something was really, really wrong...like on an internal-organ-level, which was not something I'd ever imagined or had to deal with before, and 2. I didn't have health insurance.
So, I did the only thing I could think of at the time that my starving-student-budget would allow: I went to an urgent care center. The doctor there looked me over in hurried-urgent-care-doctor fashion and asked me 20 (or more) questions. He had the nurse give me a cup of what he called a "G.I. cocktail" which was some gooey white stuff that seemed to sort of numb my insides in a way that felt as weird as it tasted. Then he told me that, from what I'd just described, although he couldn't properly diagnose it without an ultrasound, he guessed that I had gallstones. He said that once you have them, the only way to get rid of them is by having your gallbladder surgically removed. He gave me prescriptions for an ultrasound and some Vicodin, neither of which I got filled because I couldn't afford to.
As soon as I got home, I started researching my condition on the internet. Surprisingly, I discovered that there were alternative perspectives of the disease ("I have a disease?"), its origins and how to treat it. It was pretty fascinating stuff, actually. My looming despair began to lighten to cautious optimism. Thus was my first foray into the world of alternative/holistic medicine and philosophy, where I still live to this day.
One remedy I discovered online at the time was Hulda Clark's olive oil/lemon gallbladder cleanse. I decided to go for it. I had no insurance and no money for conventional medical treatment, so why the ~hail~ not (sorry for the obscure El NiÃƒÂ±o joke :).
I followed the cleanse instructions as precisely as I could. I downed my olive oil/orange juice mixture and went straight to bed (per the instructions), overwhelmed by the competing emotions I was feeling all at once:
*** Scared ***
"What if this makes things worse and I end up in the emergency room?"
*** Skeptical ***
"It's probably a bunch of BS. Who am I to question the medical establishment's prognosis of a serious medical condition by attempting to cure it with some back alley remedy that uses $8 worth of items you can buy at a corner store."
*** Excited/Hopeful ***
"What if it works? I know it's gross, but I kinda can't wait to see what comes out."
Fast-forward to the following morning: O . M . G.
I could hardly believe it. That morning, nature called me out of bed before the sun came up, and I was stunned to see that I had just passed hundreds, I'm talking HUNDREDS of stones... and they were all BLACK. It was one of the grossest things I'd ever encountered. And the coolest. Though the quantity decreased with each round, I continued to pass more stones throughout the morning that averaged about the size of a pea. What a relief it was to know the this cr@p was no longer IN my body. It took a good deal of effort to refrain from broadcasting my experience to everyone I knew, as if they just couldn't wait to hear about the contents of my toilet.
My perspective of the Western Medical establishment was permanently altered that day. Basically, this inexpensive grocery store remedy had done what the urgent care doctor had said was not possible. I do accept that Western Medicine is necessary in some situations, but I generally find it unnecessarily invasive, as well as inadequate in its ability to treat root causes and address the whole person. As a result of my first experience with this liver cleanse home remedy, in addition to the pain and nausea subsiding, my skin cleared up and I began to lose some of the weight I had gained over the previous year. Also, during the several months following I was able to work through a LOT of emotional baggage that I had been mired in for years. From a Holistic point of view this is a perfectly reasonable and complementary side-effect of such a release.
MY LIVER CLEANSE, circa 1997:
* fruit and apple juice for breakfast
* baked potato w/ a little salt only for lunch
* no water or food after 2pm
* that afternoon, prepared solution of 3 Tbs Epsom salt & 3 cups water, stored in a container for later use
* 6pm - drank 3/4 cup of the Epsom salt water and immediately thought, "OMG...this stuff is actually considered fit for human consumption?"
* 8pm - drank 3/4 cup more of epsom salt water, "Yecht!"
* 10pm - juiced 3 medium sized oranges & combined with 1/2 cup extra virgin olive oil. Took it to my bedside in a plastic lidded container. Shook it several times and then drank it fairly quickly, as I expected it to be disgusting. Actually, it wasn't so bad... the Epsom salt was way worse!
* proceeded to lie completely still face up on my bed for 30 minutes and then somehow allowed myself to drift off to sleep
* the instructions say to take another 3/4 cup dose of Epsom salt when you wake up the next morning, but NOT before 6am, then take the remainder 2 hours later. That morning I woke up before 6am and started passing stones right away. A little later, I tried to take another dose of Epsom salt water, but I only ended up drinking about 1/2 of it until I convinced myself that the cleanse was already working and, therefore, that was a good enough excuse to avoid drinking the rest of that nasty concoction. I should mention, however, that in subsequent cleanses, I have followed the instructions more thoroughly, and the results are worth enduring the taste in the end.
The instructions I've seen for this same cleanse have been slightly modified since then, and these days can be found @ http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp
I've tried variations of the cleanse with varying degrees of success.
In conclusion, YEA for me."Replies
07/15/2010: Kymom from Bowling Green, Ky replies: "I loved this story. It prompted me to do the cleanse last night myself. Good success so far. I didn't decide until lunch time yesterday to go ahead and do the cleanse because I knew I was going to be off today and really couldn't wait until the weekend because we are having out of town company. So I did have a salad with grilled chicken and vinegarette instead of a plain baked potato for lunch. I felt some nausea an hour or so after drinking the olive oil and juice at bedtime so, I thought maybe the heavier lunch was the cause. I also had a terrible headache when I woke up this morning, which has been one of the symptoms that led me to seek answers. Right side discomfort and tenderness of my rib cage was the first sign that my gall bladder was probably the culprit. Have also had a few rounds with acid reflux the past year. Hopefully, the headaches will improve now that I have cleansed. Thank you to everyone for your input."
[YEA] 12/13/2011: Su from Lombard, Il replies: "After reading the many posts here (some very entertaining! ), I decided to try the olive oil/lemon juice liver cleanse because it was the easiest to do and least time consuming. This was my first stab at any type of cleanse! I don't have stones... just wanted to get the gunk out of my liver.
Had no water or food after 1pm.
Mixed 4 Tbs Epsom salt & 3 cups water in a plastic cup - 5pm - drank 3/4 cup of the Epsom salt water
7pm - drank 3/4 cup of epsom salt water - 9pm - squeezed 3 lemons and 1/2 cup extra virgin olive oil into a plastic container w/lid and shook it up. Took it to the bedroom to consume. The mixture smelled AWFUL and tasted just as bad! But I managed to choke it down (with a straw to the back of my throat) in about 10 minutes The tartness of the lemons is what made it very difficult for me! I laid down immediately after, my head propped up on two pillows and managed to sleep for 2-1/2 hrs before having to make a "#1 pit-stop".
I went back to bed and slept until 5:30. Took another dose of 3/4 c Epsom salt mixture and slept until 7:30. Then consumed my final dose of Epsom mixture (yea! ). About 1/2 hour later, had a bowel movement. Peering in the bowl my stool was very dark, stringy and oily. I decided not to poke and prod at it (yuk! ), but satisfied that if the cleanse removed some of the gunk in my liver, that's enough for me! The only physical symptom I had throughout was a mild headache, but not sure if it was from not eating or from the cleanse itself."
02/10/2012: Alina from Bella Vista, Arkansas, United States replies: "I am posting hoping to get some advice about the gallbladder cleanse. I started having gallbladder pain and nausea about 2 months ago. I have done the cleanse twice now with absolutely no results. After the first cleanse, I thought maybe I did something wrong, maybe I missed something. The next time, I made sure I followed the instructions exactly as described in the Hulda method. The next morning I had some cramping and 2 normal bowel movements, no diarrhea, no stones, no chaff. I used 4 tbsp epsom salts. I am so disappointed. I am gagging on all these concoctions with no results, and continue to have the gallbladder discomfort. I have read numerous success stories and I am wondering what is wrong with me and why this seems to work for everyone else."
02/10/2012: Maria from Gippsland, Australia replies: "Hi Alina, Could it be liver pain as opposed to gall bladder? Some years ago I did the gall bladder cleanses, whilst I'm glad I did it was not the answer to my pain. It turned out I had other liver issues. You could try milk thistle, dandelion and turmeric to help the liver. In addition if you are getting the pain after eating also try digestive enzymes and/or ginger. Also check your ph level and if necessary do one of the alkalizing remedies here.
Excess iron can cause liver pain so the next time you are at your Drs ask for the iron tests, do at least the ferritin and also saturation levels. All the best.
All the best."
02/10/2012: Carolyn from Abilene, Tx, Usa replies: "Have you been diagnosed with gallbladder problems, or are you self diagnosing? I thought my gallbladder was causing me pain as well since ultrasound showed a small stone, but after my gastro later checked me and performed a biopsy he said it's not gallbladder, but an h pylori type organism causing my problems."
[SIDE EFFECTS] 09/02/2013: Dinpersel from Dubai, UAE replies: "Hi, I was diagnosed with gallstones and tried this cleanse. But after the cleanse, I've felt some pain all over my stomach. I felt some fever. I don't know why.. Please help"
09/02/2013: Steve from Las Vegas replies: "Doing a gallbladder cleanse can release toxins that can make you feel feverish/nauseous. As the stones release some people report pain that shifts around the stomach area. It might be good to drink extra fluids to cleanse your system. I would consider continuing with the cleanse when you feel a bit better."
02/02/2014: Earth Clinician from Los Angeles replies: "WOW! I never knew how to post on this site. I always see the comments and I'm like HOW DO YOU PEOPLE POST ON THIS WEBSITE?! Anyway, the CureZone website says EPSOM SALTS CAN KILL YOU! I thought epsom salts were only to bathe in? What gives?? Also how do you know you have stones (gall, liver, kidney etc..) what are the symptoms?"
EC: We're working on changing the design and layout of Earth Clinic, so hopefully the site will be much easier to figure out in a month or two!