Nutritional Supplement Questions Answered!

Herxheimer and Supplement Overload

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Posted by Arn (Kenmore) on 09/21/2022 20 posts

"Herxheimer is a Jerk"

Inside joke for Earth Clinic readers. I'd get that printed on a t-shirt but nobody would get the joke.

Actually, a Herxheimer reaction is no joke. I think we, who self-medicate, need to ease into new treatments. It's just human nature to jump in with both feet when we have an ailment. But it's a good idea to go slow when the treatment is actually changing your body chemistry.

An example is ACV and baking soda. Your body may switch from acidic to alkaline very quickly, and that is bound to have some side effects. Also, baking soda has a lot of sodium, which causes potassium loss. So you may get some edema or lethargy if you don't take extra potassium.

I also recommend supplement "fasts". On weekends I generally skip all supplements to give the body time to stabilize. It's possible some of our ailments come from supplement overload.

Replied by Betty

Some of us with methlylation issues may well overload on supplements. I also found out I have a gene where I do not detox normally. That can also mean too much of a good thing will also not detox as needed.

Liposomal Vitamins

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Posted by Wanda (Spring, Texas) on 10/09/2021 28 posts

Just wanted to offer some help. If you can buy liposomal form of vitamins, get them because they don't have to be digested to be absorbed. They go straight thru the blood brain barrier so you don't end up urinating most of the vitamin out. The liposomal form is the same that chelation does without the IV.


Posted by Ed2010 (Canada) on 09/24/2013

For those who want to eat LIVER for medicinal purpose or general health. Can try this recipe. It is my mom's family recipe at least 200 years old. This liver fry can be eaten with Bread, Boiled Rice. We used to have it with boiled rice along mutton curry. In our region in South India, people who have any digestive ailments with take liver fry to increase digestion.

Thanks, Good Health


  • Goat Liver - 450 Gms
  • Chopped Onion - 1 Cup
  • Oil - 4 tbsp
  • Poppy Seeds - 1 tbsp
  • Cumin Seeds - 1 tbsp
  • Turmeric Powder - 1 tsp
  • Pepper Corns - 1/2 tsp
  • Cayenne Pepper (Dry Red Chilli) - 4
  • Salt - To Taste


1. Cut liver into small pieces and clean it with water mixed with salt and turmeric powder. (use separate salt and turmeric powder)

2. Marinate cleaned liver with salt and 1/4 tsp Turmeric powder.

3. Dry roast cumin seeds, black pepper, poppy seeds, dry red chilli in medium heat till you get a nice aroma.

4. After roasting, let it cool , then mix it with 1 tsp turmeric powder and grind it to find powder.

5. Heat a wide pan or pressure cooker. Add oil.

6. When the oil is heated, add chopped onions and saut? till the onion becomes translucent.

7. Now add the marinated liver into the pan and saut? along with the onion.

8. Add Half a glass of water and close the pan or cooker, and cook it for 15 mins.

9. Check if the liver is cooked well,

10. Once cooked, add the ground spices and cook for some time till the oil separates.

11. Add more salt for taste, if required.

Delicious Liver fry is ready, Tastes great with a bowl of boiled rice.

Posted by Timh (Ky, Usa) on 09/20/2013 2063 posts

Raw Liver supplements or even cooked liver is one of the (imho) top ten super-foods.

Posted by Rose (Girona, Spain) on 01/04/2010

Liver for vitamins and minerals

First of all congratulations for this wonderful and helpful site. Thank you very much to all who keep this going.
I would like to ask Ted, who recommends taking half cooked liver for vitamins and minerals, if he supposes it to be from a biologically raised animal, as non biological animals which are given antibiotics and hormones have very toxic livers. And from which animal's? (beef, chicken, lamb...)
Sorry my English is not very good.

Replied by Ted
(Bangkok, Thailand)
391 posts

Chicken's liver, not raised on antibiotics or hormones are best. These are the least toxic of the livers.

Magnesium Stearate

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Posted by Newagewoes (Melborne , Fl., Florida) on 12/10/2010


Try to find supplements without magnesium stearate, it's been discovered that it blocks the immune system from working! Since finding supps without it, my immune system is working and I am much better from Morgellons

Magnesium Stearate
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines) on 11/03/2010


Magnesium Stearate is found in many compressed tablet forms of vitamins, minerals etc and is only used to actually help form the tablet. When I used Ascorbic Acid tablets in the past I would crush them up and add water as Ted advises. But this always produced a cloudy, milky solution. That is caused by the Mag Stearate. When I switched and used pure Ascorbic acid powder, the solution was always crystal clear. Being a waxy substance, Mag Stearate also interfere's with digestion and absorbtion of nutrients, and some people are actually allergic to it. The best forms of vitamins, minerals and nutrients to take are either in powdered form or in a capsule(containing powder). Avoid all tablets forms if you can.

Magnesium Stearate
Posted by Newagewoes (Melborne, Florida) on 10/30/2010


For all the Morgellon sufferers out there, I just found out something important, it turns out that many of our vitamins & supplements ( even good brands ) have Magnesium Stearate in them, I myself have been taking up to 7 different supplements per day with it in them! My doctor who is baffled that I cannot get my immune system built up even though I have been on epicor for two years, suggested that I go home and check the labels on all my OTC pills because Magnesium Stearate blocks immune builders and tears down the immune system, never more than 1 pill a day should be taken with this ingredient in it.


Posted by Anon (Queens, Ny) on 06/24/2012

Hey EC..... I am looking into supplementing with a good liquid mineral and have found quite a few however, I noticed that all of them contains trace amounts of chloride, gold, flouride etc. I am now scared to use this cause I am thinking how safe is it to put these things into my body. I have read so many positive reviews on how good minerals are for your health and was hoping to try them out so please anyone with any info on this subject can you please advice. Thank you so much guys.

Replied by Timh
(Louisville, Ky, Usa)
2063 posts

Anon from Queens, I made the switch from "colloidal" form of minerals to the "ionic" about a yr ago and felt positive results immediately. Mine is "Trace Minerals Research" derived from the Great Salt Lake in Utah. As for dangers, the worst minerals would be lead, cadmium, and mercury. Most manufacturers screen out the big 3 from the original substrate. The elements you mentioned do not seem to pose any threat to biological organisms in the quantity recommended for daily consumption.

The benefits of trace mineral supplementation are numerous. Some researchers believe that the human lifespan is greatly decreased as a result of trace minerals deficiency. The Hunzas as well as other people who have natural sources of trace minerals in their drinking water can and have reached ages over 120 yrs.

To obtain an objective status you would want to have a hair mineral analysis before and after supplementation.

Posted by Debbie (Melbourne, Australia ) on 01/17/2012

I have found a mineral interaction chart that helps you determine whether the minerals you are taking are actually antagonists to other needed minerals. From the chart you can also see that high mercury levels in the body deplete the body of iodine. Also a high calcium level is also an antagonist to Zinc. Interesting and worthwhile keeping a copy of the chart handy to ensure you are not overdosing in one mineral to the detriment of another.'s-interaction-chart/

NatureMade Supplement Review

Posted by KT (Usa) on 10/15/2018

During the time I was involved with the NOMSG consumer group I was advised that the ingredients of NatureMade had been tested and were the safest for consumption at that time. Even though our food supply is changing, I still use them with no known problem and also use the powdered magnesium oxide from NOW.


Necessary Supplements

Posted by Gert (La) on 03/05/2014

Just curious, if I'm very low income and can't afford extra's, what supplements and or vitamins should I take at a bare minimum? I do what I can--exercise, avoid chemicals for bathing/cleaning/etc, but food options aren't so great. I eat a lot of beans, oatmeal, lentils, onions, garlic, cabbage, potatoes, carrots. If I spend my little reserve on something, what should it be. I have around $80/m to spend on food & refuse to get on welfare. The food bank at church hands out prepared cereals, canned soups, etc which I am grateful for but that may not be better than my pintos with onion. What say you?

Replied by Mama To Many
(Tennessee, Usa)

Dear Gert,

You are super smart! I wish they would hire you to teach others how to maximize their welfare dollars or even their limited food budget. It makes me very sad to see people in the grocery store using that money on soda pop and potato chips. Especially for the children, who are at the mercy of parents to feed them nutritious foods. And, I admire your efforts to stay off welfare. I think you are making great use of the money you have for food.

Since reading your post, I have been wondering what supplement I would consider most essential...and I couldn't pick one. I supposed because it might depend upon your current health and needs. For example, for my son that gets migraines, I would have feverfew on the list. But most don't need that.

That said, some things I love to have on hand because they are effective, versatile and inexpensive are:

Raw Apple Cider Vinegar

Blackstrap Molasses

Activated Charcoal


Fresh garlic

Perhaps you do this, but you can sprout your lentils to increase their nutrition. Lentil sprouts taste a bit peppery. I like them when someone in my house gets around to making them. :)

One possibility would be to use a bit of the money to buy herb plants that have many applications. Even in a sunny window or apartment balcony you should be able to grow peppermint and comfrey which are wonderful. Also, if you have access to an area that is unsprayed to pick plantain and save it and dry it, plantain is an amazing herb.

Looking forward to reading ideas others have.

~Mama to Many~

Replied by KT

Magnesium Powder is essential. I mention magnesium powder specfically because it does not contribute to the problems from capsules or binders and fillers in tablets. Any combination of these can cause more ailments than is recognized. It has taken me over two decades to learn this, piecemeal.

Replied by Timh
(Ky, Usa)
2063 posts

I must add Cinnamon to Mamma's herb list especially if one is suffering from overweight issues.

Chicken or Calf Liver contains way more nutrition than other meats per weight.

Two more items on the superfood list which may be purchased wholsale after maybe extensive shopping: Bee Pollen & Brewers Yeast.

Nutrient Deficiency Symptoms

Posted by Deirdre (Atlanta, GA) on 07/12/2009

Another interesting article I discovered today as I was researching... has charts on eye-deficiency symptoms, skin-deficiency symptoms, hair and nail deficiency symptoms, and tongue and mouth deficiency symptoms:

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Posted by Betty (CA) on 11/03/2021
★★★★★ is also a good reputable source for info as EC is.

I love both of these sites. Thank you to everyone for info and insight.

Supplement Advice

Posted by Whole Foods (Los Gatos, Ca) on 09/03/2012

I wondered if someone could give me the rule for taking vitamins? Is it 1/2 hour before eating and 1 hour after? Many thanks!

Replied by Lisa
(Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa)

Hi there, If you take vitamin supplements they should always be taken during meals. That's not necessarily the case for herbs or homeopathics. But vitamin supplements, with your meals for best absorption. Hope this helps, Lisa

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