Kefir for Health: A Fermented Alternative to Yogurt

| Modified on Jul 08, 2021

Adrenal Fatigue
Posted by Deana (Knoxville, Tn) on 06/15/2015
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Kefir! Kefir! HOMEMADE KEFIR! Can't say enough good about this hug-from-heaven-food! I was overrun with wild symptoms of adrenal fatigue and who knows what else (16 MD specialists could do nothing for me) and then I discovered homemade kefir.

I was so very ill few years ago that I had to quit my job teaching school while I prayed for answers to weird and debilitating symptoms from hives to heart palpitations to absolute fatigue. I am not exaggerating when I say that I put aside over $400 worth of supplements each month when I found kefir. Took about a cup or so a day for three weeks before I felt the changes. At first, felt rather unwell, but I know now that there was a "die-off" of so many bad guys living within and their waste and removal from my system led to this unwell sense for a week or two, then the sun broke through! Truly!

Kefir has so remarkably changed my world that I have actually started business teaching about this food and other cultured foods. Having a ball doing something so valuable, something most weary folks don't know exists. Let's spread the news!

God bless you all. Love Earth Clinic! I have learned so much from this amazing resource. So glad to share what I eventually found to be exactly what my frail body needed. Now, more energy than ever and absolutely med free!! When you understand how the microbes in kefir work in your digestive tract, you might be drinking it daily like this grateful gal. :)

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Posted by RSW (OH) on 05/19/2021
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Hi GertJr,

I also consumed the homemade milk kefir for a few years, as advised by a poster named P. Raghavan. I ordered the grains on the internet from a reputable seller. While I wanted the probiotics, I did it as an experiment, also, to see if it reduced sugar for a relative with Type 11 diabetes. My usual blood sugar is about 99, but by using the keifer for several years, eventually brought it down to 82. My daughter informed me that it may be too low, so I stopped taking it. My blood sugar is about 99 again. I, too, had a hard time with the taste, but found it better when mixed with blueberries.

Increased Life Expectancy
Posted by P. Raghavan (Virudhunagar, Tn, India) on 08/15/2016

Kefir and Life Expectancy

During tenth century, some shepherds in Bulgaria accidentally discovered Kefir when they kept goat milk in their leather bags lined with goat's intestine. The probiotics in the goat's intestine multiplied in the stored goat milk. When they drank this fermented food, they felt healthier and energetic. They kept this information as secret. They supplied Kefir starter only to their friends and relatives on condition that they should not supply kefir starter to anyone else and also should not reveal its benefits to other people; otherwise, kefir will loose all its powers.

In the year 1905, Russian Government ordered its scientists to rediscover kefir. Russian scientists went to Bulgaria and rediscovered kefir. Then kefir production started in Russia. Russian doctors gave kefir to tuberculosis patients and people with intestine problems initially. According to the document available in the net " Home remedies that some people have said worked for them ", some people are still taking kefir to cure tuberculosis. Kefir contains about 30 probiotic strains whereas ordinary yogurt contains only 2 probiotic strains.

Russian microbiologist who won Noble Prize in the field of medicine (year 1908) " Ilya Mechnikov " did a study on kefir. He divided the population of Bulgaria into two groups:

1) Kefir consuming population

2) Non-kefir consuming population

He counted the number of people who were above the age 100 in each group. The number of people who were above the age of 100 per 10000 population in Kefir consuming population was very much higher than that of Non-kefir consuming population. His conclusion was kefir consumption increased life expectancy.

My own feeling is if a person takes one half of kefir in the morning on empty stomach for about 2 days in a week regularly, can expect his / her life expectancy to go up and will face less number of medical problems since a considerable number of diseases originate in the digestive system.

Best wishes P. Raghavan.

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Posted by GertJr (Madison) on 05/19/2021
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I've been fermenting my own grains for dairy kefir for years now and still cannot stand the taste. I've been choking it down all this time for the health benefits, but can't really tell you that I've seen any. I love full-fat plain unsweetened greek yogurt and, occasionally, make it myself at home. Kefir has something like 57 different strains of probiotics; yogurt only has, at most, 5.

So, my question is, what if I use fermented kefir milk instead of unfermented milk for the yogurt? Would the abundance of probiotics in the kefir proliferate in the yogurt? If they stay active but don't reproduce, I could keep on fermenting with the grains and use fresh kefir every time for the yogurt. Any thoughts on this? I have, recently, taken to mixing the kefir into the yogurt and consuming that, but it's not thick as I like it. Or am I totally wasting my time with the kefir since I can't see any health difference? I have ibs-d and insomnia and the kefir is said to help with that as well as with so many other health issues. And, I must admit, when others get sick or have allergies to pollen, I don't so maybe there's a benefit that I'm not seeing.

Also, to ORH, hang in there. If you know Jehovah God, then you know Who wins this battle. Embrace His will and all will be well.

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Posted by Mama (TN) on 05/19/2021

Dear Gertjr,

If you are not enjoying it, have been using it for years, and are not really noticing a benefit, it seems to me that at least taking a break from it would make sense. Then you can see if it perhaps did help. Meanwhile, enjoy your yogurt! :)

I had my daughter on homemade milk kefir (and nettle) for a year. Her health (primarily asthma) improved greatly over that year. She hasn't taken kefir since. She takes nettle once in a while if allergies are bothering her. My point is that she had long term lasting benefit even though she didn't keep on using the kefir.

I don't know the answer to the question of making yogurt with fermented kefir. An intriguing idea, though!

~Mama to Many~

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Posted by Nandarani~nancy (Honolulu) on 09/17/2017

I know you will probably not see this but thanks for making me laugh! ;D I mean.... it's wonderful to read 'not many people like my grains' - because I guess I'm like you.... I try to give stuff and generate enthusiasm but it doesn't always work. Thanks again....

Kefir Side Effects
Posted by Charity (Faithville, Us) on 06/04/2018

Kefir should be started at a tolerable dose of 2 TBSP and then work your way up as your gut restores the enzymes gradually... I can tolerate two cups a day . No diarrhea

Increased Life Expectancy
Posted by Victoria (Toronto, Canada) on 07/08/2021
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I make goat milk Kefir everyday for the last 6 years. I have been using the same grains I got from a friend who has kept them going for many years. I like to second ferment it after pouring off the Kefir into a jar and using a piece of date or thin strip of lemon peel, leave it on the counter for a couple more hours. Chill. It is thicker (not like yogurt) creamy and slightly fizzy. It's called the champagne of yogurt! Totally delicious and mild. Enjoy!

Increased Life Expectancy
Posted by P. Raghavan (Virudhunagar, Tn, India) on 08/17/2016


There is a typo error. It should read as " If a person takes one half cup of kefir in the morning ..." instead of " If a person takes one half of kefir in the morning ...". Sorry for this error.

Some probiotic strains in kefir may not survive in stomach acid. Stomach acid will not be there in the morning on empty stomach. If one takes kefir in the morning on empty stomach, the effectiveness of kefir will be high.

Best wishes. P. Raghavan.

Adrenal Fatigue
Posted by Helder Costa (Rio De Janeiro) on 12/28/2016
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Espetacular, magnifico o kefir. Curou-me varias enfermidades que me acompanhavam desde adolescência, como gastrite, colite ulcerativa diarreia e falta de absorção de vitaminas, minerais, enzimas e produção de hormônios a níveis ajustados.

EC: Google translation of above text:

"Spectacular, great kefir. It cured me of several illnesses that accompanied me since adolescence, such as gastritis, ulcerative colitis diarrhea and lack of absorption of vitamins, minerals, enzymes and production of hormones at adjusted levels."

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Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa) on 11/12/2010

Hi Merryanne,
I have been making kefir for about 3 months now quite successfully and have been enjoying the benefits even more! I will try to answer your questions.

First, the grains start off small and they are yellowish in color and yes, as they grow, they look like tiny cauliflowers. Those living grains will grow over time and you can then give them to others so they can enjoy the benefits of kefir for themselves or you can eat some of them for even more benefits. You will usually see them start growing after about a couple of weeks.

As for the kefir, it can be different consistencies and that is contingent on time, weather conditions, the amount of milk to grains. I live here in CA so it's pretty warm most of the time. In the 24 hours that I let my grains do their work, my kefir often separates. That's when you see the curd separate from the whey. The whey is the yellow liquid, the white is the curd. I just shake my jar up so it all comes back together and then I strain it into a bowl before putting it in a glass bottle. I drink my kefir straight but people often add fruit, juice, etc for flavor.

As for growing the grains, you want to add a sugar in your milk as well because the grains feed on it. You have to use a real sugar, no substitutes. I like to use blackstrap molasses in mine because my grains really thrive on it and I'm also getting the benefits of BSM as well. If you want to make a useable spread, you can strain the kefir through a nut milk bag or cheese cloth and then you'll have kefir cheese which can be spreadable.

The health benefits are countless. So as not to repeat myself, I have a few posts here on earth clinic in the kefir section and give a couple of website links you can go to to learn all the health benefits. Hope this info helps, Lisa

Kefir Side Effects
Posted by Tim (Georgia) on 06/04/2018 22 posts

First you will to discontinue consuming kefire for a few days and see the result. Diabetes most often is cause of SIBO, so the main thing you must do is to reduce, even exclude all fats from your diet. It will stop your diarhea&gas immediately. Milk&all milky consist of sugar called galactosa, non -digestion of which, in your case, may lead to serious problems with liver, so as globuls of triglycerides( milky lipids). Make the changes in your diet only and you will avoid al troubles.

Wish you best.

Increased Life Expectancy
Posted by Ecwannabe71 (Ohio ) on 08/23/2016

Don't quote me, but I thought I heard somewhere that natural death (as opposed to an accident) starts in the gut.

Adrenal Fatigue
Posted by Frank (Perth, Western Australia) on 07/22/2015
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If in the right environment (good quality milk) Kefir grows endlessly. I do not waste the grains ever. I share or eat them. Many years ago the medications I was given caused me chronic Gastritis. Bleeding at both ends etc. No medications helped. Drinking Kefir helped, made me feel better, but didn't cure, until I started eating the grains. Nearly immediately I started to get better and better. By eating Kefir nearly on every day basis I maintain this condition. As I mentioned above, that was 25 yrs ago. I am also using Kefir "very successfully" to treat chronic folliculitis. It brings down the inflammation, reducing itchiness. Everything starts in our digestive system. Kefir and all the goodies in it keeps me in a tip top condition. Prevention is the best cure. I drink it every day. I can mix it with oats/muesly add ice cream, honey, banana and this is my breakfast/dinner, or drink it plain. Finally my wife started eating it as well. Olle! Kefir is my "Doctor Everything", by using Kefir you make THE DOCTORS UNEMPLOYED.

Posted by Lardiver (Abbotsford, Bc) on 11/11/2014

Good news. I made my yogurt with about 1/4 kefir milk added to the yogurt mix before going into the yogurt maker. 20 hours latter the yogurt was thickened and I had yogurt that was 400 to 800 times more probiotic bacteria than plain yogurt, plus about 10 times the bacteria strains. The yogurt is vinegary tasting so next time I will us 1/2 the kefir milk. So this means that for those who don't like the taste of kefir can eat yogurt and get all there probiotics since yogurt is easy to make. Next I have plans to make kefir cream cheese and kefir ice yogurt.

How to Make Ginger Ale Kefir
Posted by Larry (Abbotsford, BC) on 09/15/2014

I found a recipe to make ginger ale kefir with milk grains used in water, mmmmgood.

Kefir grains, 2 quarts water, 2 large tablespoons honey, 1/2 teaspoon tumeric, 1/4 lemon, 1/4 lime, 5 thin slices of ginger.

Let sit in dark spot 1 to 3 days.

Every one likes it even though they don't like the milk kefir.

How to Make Ginger Ale Kefir
Posted by Elena (New Zealand) on 07/10/2017

The easiest way to drain kefir is to heat it up to around 35-40°C inside and then drain through the cheese cloth or muslin. It drains within a couple of hours, not days this way. I make fresh cheese (Tvorog) this way. All bacteria and enzymes are still intact at this temperature, Tvorog keeps fermenting in the fridge.


Kefir Side Effects
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee) on 10/20/2015

Dear Amit,

Thank you for sharing your kefir story!

I love milk kefir. I found it interesting that it lowered your blood pressure. I thought I would mention, for those who do have low blood pressure, that I tend towards low blood pressure (90/60) but have never had trouble with it lowering my pressure further. Perhaps kefir, like many natural remedies, has a normalizing effect.

I will have to pay attention to whether or not the most fresh kefir seems more effective. A very interesting observation.

~Mama to Many~

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Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa) on 10/12/2010
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Hi everyone, I haven't written for quite awhile but I wanted to say that my most recent journey has been with kefir. Those of you who know me know that I have been through many of the remedies here on earth clinic and each has been wonderful and beneficial. Still, I am always in search of alternative remedies/ protocols for ultimate health. I continue with my hyaluronic acid, once to twice a week I take apple cider vinegar and baking soda in water in the morning and zeolite once to twice a week as well to remove heavy metals/toxins.

For 3 months we were about 90% raw and had green juices everyday for 10 months. I had been dealing with excruciating pain in my body for 5 years and the juicing and raw really brought that to an end and all within about a week. I continue to not eat pasta or mainstream bread and no dairy. With that, I began to learn about kefir and had been making my own young coconut kefir for about 4 months drinking it daily. Then, I began to learn a lot about milk kefir. I was concerned about it because I had pinpointed the culprit of my pain was dairy so I was hesitant about milk kefir. I did a lot of research and what I learned was that those who are dairy intolerant rarely have a reaction to real kefir. I say "real kefir" because I'm not talking about commercial kefir but rather making it yourself at home with living kefir grains. It has been a little over 2 months now that I have been drinking it daily and have fallen in love with it. The benefits are amazing. Although I saw my skin change with green juices and going raw, I saw it change yet again with milk kefir. I have had melasma for the last 10 years or so and with the kefir have seen it disappear. Also, I notice my lungs feel very strong and when I'm teaching my voice is very strong and I can speak all the way to the other side of the room. I feel steady and calm when I drink it too. My nails grow unbelievably fast now and my digestion is really good too.

When I first started researching this, my thought was, this sounds miraculous but could it be true? The history of kefir is also fascinating. So far, it is proving to be a miraculous food. It contains over 30 strains of bacterias and yeasts that the body needs to stay healthy and strong. It can combat candida and prevent candidiasis. Anyway, if kefir is something that interests you due to its benefits you can google it and find lots of info. There are sites you can order living kefir grains from which I believe is the way to go to truly get the benefits that are claimed about kefir. Don't just get the commercial kind in the store. Also, if you buy the grains, they live forever because they are self-propagating so you never have to buy them again!

Here's to our health! Lisa

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Posted by Lynn (Racine, Wi) on 08/04/2011
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I am an avid fan of kefir and have been drinking it for almost a year now. I grow so many grains that I have been able to start over 20 people on it. They are starting to call me the kefir lady. We have gotten great results on it in our family. My 11 year old twin daughter has Type 1 Diabetes and getting great results with blood sugars. It is as though her body is trying to work, We also have celiac disease in our family and it soothes the gut and helped heal the gut. We havent gotten sick on this except for mild detoxifying My twenty year old daughter had mrsa and had great results on a natural supplement with no scarring or reaccuring bouts it was scabbed over in a week to the doctors amazement. She did not take kefir but I wanted that info for the mrsa patients.

All I can say is that kefir is part of our daily healthy living along with supplements and all natural antibiotics. Lynn

Adrenal Fatigue
Posted by Anon (Usa) on 07/28/2015

Have you ever considered Colostrum for your leaky gut?

Energy, Digestion, Eye Puffiness
Posted by Sam (Miami, FL) on 12/22/2014

80/10/10 can be googled and it is a ratio of carbs/fat/proteins which has been debunked. Paleo diet is now leading and is based on the latest research (Chris Masterjohn, ChrisKresser).

Don't blame Kefir for your symptoms.

Read about candida on "candida" page.

You can't cure your symptoms unless you overhaul your lifestyle that includes not only diet.

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Posted by Jamie (Lakeworth , Fl) on 11/12/2010

Hi Merryanne, what did you do with the original grains? How you described the way your grains arrived in the mail was about how mine got here to. It sounds to me like you got kefir on your first attempts. What I do is let it ferment for about 24 hours. What you described is what I usually get. I use a 48 oz. Pickle jar, add about 32 oz. of milk maybe a little more. I do not add sugar of molasses. Although I have read you can even use coconut milk, but your grains wont grow. I would use my extra grains for experimenting. If I didnt have time or I didn't use my last batch of kefir I just put the jar in the refrigerator, with the grains in it. I have noticed this seems to make a creamier kefir. When ready I put a mesh strainer over a 1/2 gal pitcher. I take a wooden spoon and gently push the globs of kefir around.

Then all I have left is the grains, they as of late seem to have a slime on them. From what I have read this is normal. It takes about 3 or 4 dumps of the pickle jar to empty it. I think that is where you may be falling short. Putting it through a strainer emulsifies the kefir, so it is like drinkable yogurt. I have heard of people who put the kefir in the blender after they get the grains out. You can do it the way you are doing it but it is much more enjoyable as a beverage to me. I add stevia for sweetener, a drop or two of vanilla. I sometimes put grated coconut in it and stir. I have a coffee sock, that is a cone shaped piece of like cheese cloth that is on a round plastic piece. I use that to pour my unstrained kefir in. I get a whipped cream type consistency ball of kefir. I put that on fruit, or baked sweet potato. Oh you have to fish the grains out before putting it into the coffee sock. I got that in the Spanish store, they use it to out coffee in and pour boiling water through. I also want to mention they say not to use metal when making kefir, utensils or vessels. Also chlorine like in the public water supply will kill the grains. About the only thing that will. I put water in my tea kettle, fill it up. When I am done straining my kefir, for the next day. Like you would let tap water set before adding it to a fish tank. My grains have grown tremendously in a couple of months. I got about 1 tablespoon and have already gave some away, still I have over 1/2 a cup. The amount of grains and milk directly relates to how long it will take to make the kefir.

Kefir Side Effects
Posted by Deirdre (Atlanta, Georgia) on 10/21/2010
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I started making homemade kefir early September after hearing such great results from our Thousand Oaks, California Lisa. I purchased the grains online and used organic milk to make the kefir. I agree with Lisa that it makes your skin look great and your nails grow like crazy! Unfortunately, however, I am one of the few people who react badly to the enormous amounts of what we figured must be tryptophan in the kefir. It makes me unbelievably sleepy and happy-goofy with brain fog. I put up with the side effects for 2 weeks before giving up. I even tried putting the grains in goat milk to see what would happen. Same reaction, though not quite so potent. I had a similar reaction to hyaluronic acid containing inositol that Alfred from Bangkok, Thailand had recommended! Incidentally, the kefir does not have the same effect on my husband, who feels nothing, good or bad, after drinking kefir for the last few weeks. The uniqueness of each person's brain chemistry truly amazes me. I would love my siblings to try the homemade kefir to see if they react the same way as I do. I suspect they would!

On the subject of brain chemistry -- I accidentally discovered that my brain craves B vitamins when I bought a gluten and dairy free chocolate bar with (surprise, surprise) added B vitamins. 2 hours after eating a bar, I feel a calm and somewhat euphoric state set in that lasts for hours. I am also discovering some concoctions of fresh vegetable juice having the same effect; namely parsley greens, celery, apple, lemon and ginger.

Good luck, everyone! Thanks for all your wonderful sharing.

Kefir Side Effects
Posted by Nandarani (Honolulu) on 09/17/2017

Hello Deirdre... You probably have made many more discoveries since writing in 2010 all valuable. At least now you know if you ever have trouble getting to sleep what to do... and the rest of us have more proof of it if we use it for that which am just beginning to do. If anyone can ever find book(s) by someone who wrote under the name Gurudas and was published by Pegasus Products get the book - there are details in it that go far beyond what usually we find - the foods you mention, for example - all the esoteric values of them. Have the flower essences book myself - which contains fruits and foods which bear resemblance to their flowers in terms of properties - spiritual, physical, and mental. There is a Spiritual Properties of Herbs book, and two volumes of gem and mineral information - have read them all and signatures having to do with properties and effects are all over. Celery is one: note the stringiness of it which relates to nerves - which it calms.

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Posted by Daniella53 (Corpus Christi, Texas) on 07/01/2012

Hello Guys. I have found a wonderful use for kefir. I followed the "Dr. Budwig Protocol" diet for 5 months and this mixture of kefir and "highest lignan" cold pressed organic flax seed oil seems to have had a positive effect on my husband's cancer treatments. I sincerely request that you review this diet protocol.

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Posted by Maria (East Elmhurst, Queens, New York) on 11/14/2011

Grashka, will you still share your kefir? I've always bought Amish kefir from Pathmark, but would like to try to grow the grains myself. I can pick it up from you as you say you're in NYC. thanks.

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Posted by Margie (Windhoek, Namibia) on 11/04/2015

Looking for Water Kefir in Windhoek!

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Posted by Toni (Windhoek ) on 01/07/2017

Hi did you ever find Water Kefir in Windhoek? Or Nam for that matter? Also looking for some. Please let me know. Thanks Toni

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Posted by Michele (East London, South Africa) on 03/20/2018

You can get the Kefir kit from Dischem.

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Posted by Lanos (So California, Usa) on 03/27/2012

Demi, .. Sorry, but there is a 'Republic of Macedonia' a separate country. Small matter though, finding kefir is the important thing.. Luv

Kefir Side Effects
Posted by Tp (Knoxville, Tn) on 06/03/2018
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I have been making and using kefir for about a month or so and like it drink 20oz or more a day, morning+night. I have recently been experiencing very loose stool and gas. I have high BP and type 2 diabetes. But I take metformen twice a day 1000m for it and stays around 100. For BP I take lisinopril, amlodipine, metaprolol, hydrochlolothiazide (! )

Could any of these with kefir be the source of the diarrhea?

Kefir Side Effects
Posted by Mitchell B. (Nottingham, Uk) on 02/06/2017
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Over the last couple of weeks I've been making kefir from organic whole milk, and enjoyed the results. I've also made some delicious kefir cream cheese. But I've found since having it that my appetite has shot through the roof, and especially a desire for sweet food. I've always had a good diet but have a tendency to put on weight. However, recently lost two stone in weight at Weight Watchers, so obviously do not want to put this back on through an overactive kefir driven appetite. When I stopped having the kefir my appetite returned to normal. Has anyone else experienced this?

Increased Life Expectancy
Posted by Bibi (Bronx) on 08/15/2016

P. Raghavan, you wrote, "If a person takes one half of kefir in the morning..."

A half of kefir? Do you mean a half cup? I take 4 ounces of dairy kefir daily for my ibs. I have done some research, but I don't think I ever heard of on an empty stomach. I'll have to try it that way and see if it makes a difference. I usually take it before bed (over 2 hours after my last food) so that I get the tryptophan. I also add turmeric paste to it before drinking. Not so very tasty, but I am blessed to be able to drink it down without actually tasting it.

For those who don't like the sourness, do a second ferment to mellow the taste. (Strain out the kefir grains, then cap the strained kefir milk tightly and let sit on the counter, unrefrigerated, for several hours. If it gets effervescent and you don't like the sparkle then just don't leave it so long. Mine is thick, creamy and not sour at all after 2 hours out like this. Then put in refrigerator.)

Increased Life Expectancy
Posted by Herbal (Ontario, Canada) on 06/29/2017

Hello Mr. Raghavan,

I was reading on kefir, also started making it, and having it for week. While reading I came across this site and it was wonderful to read. I have a problem that somewhere within a day or two, I got a very bad pain in my back and it is still persisting. I took pain kill too, as it was difficult to breath..I think I started with a cup..I want to continue...Please if you can give some suggestions.

Increased Life Expectancy
Posted by P. Raghavan (Virudhunagar, Tn, India) on 06/30/2017


You may be either allergic to kefir or have infection in the pain area. Find out the problem.

Best wishes,

P. Raghavan.

Increased Life Expectancy
Posted by Elena (New Zealand) on 07/10/2017

If you use kefir itself, not the grains as a starter, inoculate milk with a small amount of kefir, then your next kefir will be milder in taste. Kefir made with the grains is actually a starter in the commercial setting, it may have too many bacteria and yeast.

If kefir is left on the bench to ferment more after it is ready (thickened) it will have a buildup of lactic and acetic acid which will eventually suppress the yeast and bacteria. Not really good to have too much acid.


Storing Kefir
Posted by Suseeq (Sydney, Australia) on 08/20/2015

Those people that are making their own kefir - I hope you can answer me on this. I make my own kefir in glass but I will soon be travelling and I want to take my kefir with me, but glass is too risky to travel with, so I would like to use plastic. Can I do this, will the kefir be okay , thank you for any advice.

Storing Kefir
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee) on 08/20/2015

Dear Suseeq,

I think it will be fine. I "lost" my kefir grains in my fridge for a couple of months. I finally found them in a tiny plastic container. Usually I use glass. Anyway, they were fine and the kefir I made when I found them was fine.

You have probably thought of this, but I would leave some grains home just in case. Losing kefir grains to lost luggage, or some other travel related issue would be a shame if you had none left at home! :)

Happy travels!

~Mama to Many~

Adrenal Fatigue
Posted by Connie (Meridian, Idaho) on 07/28/2015

Hi, thank you for posting. I must know how to obtain kefir starter please...I have suffered so with leaky gut agony for nine years now and tried everything to no avail. Please tell me how do I get/find/make my own starter. Thank you, Connie

Adrenal Fatigue
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee) on 07/28/2015

I was able to get milk kefir grains on ebay. They worked very well for me. I followed directions that I found online. Making it was easier than any description of the process, by the way.

~Mama to Many~

Adrenal Fatigue
Posted by Jasmine (Philippines) on 03/17/2016

What did you exactly feel the first 2 weeks of taking kefir? Did you feel more fatigue, sleepy, lethargic and seem like your symptoms got worse? Did you have fever?

Adrenal Fatigue
Posted by Id (Idaho) on 05/31/2017

Do you think water kefir would work as well? Did you start with particular brand? thanks!

Adrenal Fatigue
Posted by Robert (California) on 06/24/2017

I am going through the beginning stages now myself, This is about a week in and I have been sore everywhere. I have been feeling like ugh and I was saying this has to be the storm before the calm. Thank you for your comment, it was just what I needed to hear.

Where to Buy: Canada
Posted by Jessie (Vancouver, Bc) on 03/20/2015

Chronic Yeast inections: I'd like know if anyone can tell me where to find "live" kefir grains? I've read eating fermented foods such as yogurt made of kefir can help clear up the bad bacteria.

Where to Buy: India
Posted by Namitgee (Mumbai, India) on 11/21/2014

I want to buy some readymade kefir milk. Where do I buy it? Who supplies it?

Posted by Lardiver (Abbotsford, Bc) on 11/06/2014

I have an idea that I want to try and wonder if anyone else has tried this. My plan is to make my milk kefir and while it is still room temperature make yogurt and add the kefir to the mix before putting it into the yogurt maker. This if it works will give the yogurt all the bacteria of kefir, 20 some strains of bacteria instead of just the 3 strains of bacteria of yogurt. For those who don't know about bacteria, the probiotic pills you buy have 15 - 50 billion cultures of bacteria, yogurt has 100 times more and kefir has 400 times more. A lot of people don't like kefir so if growing it in yogurt makes it taste better then this will make it easyer for them to get the benefits.

Posted by Gert (Tenn) on 04/07/2017

I like the thought of using kefir milk to make yogurt. My homemade kefir, even after a second ferment, is just not a taste I like. Also, my dh doesn't like the 'mess' it makes with it fermenting, straining, etc. I like homemade yogurt and, if this is really a good idea, then I'll make a batch of kefir milk, use it to make yogurt and then just keep using my yogurt to keep it going. I don't know if there is any science showing that the kefir bacteria/yeast/etc can grow in the yogurt process thereby making the yogurt more healthy. I like kefir because it can repopulate the gut and yogurt cannot. Can anyone give me a reason not to do this? If you have done it, can you tell any difference between regular yogurt and kefir yogurt? I use yogurt like sour cream on my oatmeal in the morning, wierd but a taste I like.

How to Make Ginger Ale Kefir
Posted by Jr (Michigan, Us) on 09/16/2014

I thought I heard that you weren't supposed to use honey with Kefir because it would kill the grains? How many times can you use the kefir grains doing this?

How to Make Ginger Ale Kefir
Posted by Lardiver (Abbotsford) on 11/06/2014

I have been using the milk kefir grains in the water ginger ale for a couple months.

How to Make Ginger Ale Kefir
Posted by Lardiver (Abbotsford) on 12/11/2014

I have come up with a new way to use kefir, its like making greek yogurt but with kefir.

Use 3% milk to make the kefir, let sit for 2 days, strain off the kefir grains, pour kefir into a towel suspended in a container so the whay can drip off. ( not cheese cloth, to big of a weave ) let it sit on counter for 2 days, after 2 days you will have 1/4 kefir left and 3/4 whey, #1 with the kefir make whip cream by adding sugar and vanila extract, no need to beat, or #2 add salt to taste and spices to your taste to make cream cheese. great on crackers. you can find recipes to use the whey to make several things, I like lemon pie.

How to Make Ginger Ale Kefir
Posted by June Rose (Leeds Uk) on 06/14/2020
5 out of 5 stars

I made the Ginger Ale Kefir, thanks for recipe, it is really good, and I drink it often.

Energy, Digestion, Eye Puffiness
Posted by Zahira (Hawkes Bay, New Zealand) on 12/28/2013
3 out of 5 stars

Better But With Side Effects

I am using Kefir made from young coconut water. I tried it 2 or 3 months ago and stopped because of side effects. I have started it again and I am having the same side effects - dermititis or some fungal disease on my feet and herpes. Last time my sleep was also disturbed. I take 20 to 30mls a day. Has anyone else had this result and will it pass? There have been good side effects as well - the puffiness around my eyes went, my bowel worked better and I had more energy (despite having herpes regularly which really drain me). Any feed back would be appreciated.

Energy, Digestion, Eye Puffiness
Posted by Mike 62 (Denver, Colorado) on 12/28/2013

Zahira: I take 1 gallon home brewed water kefir daily. I get more energy than the 120g organic whole flour and organic whole cane sugar I put in. I believe kefir is the most potent of all remedies. The microbes change matter into gases that pulsate at very high energies. The nutrients are more active and available. You are experiencing a detox reaction. I am going to tell you what you must do to get well like me. I went through this myself so I understand this is not going to be a pleasant experience. For 24 hours eat raw organic fruit and raw honey, make green smoothies from organic baby leaves, and 0 fat. Dr. Doug Graham candida at naturalnews says the candida does not eat sugar in the presence of insulin when there is 0 fat. The lifespan of candida is measured in hours. Dieting is not an option because low levels of atp increase the diseased state according to Andrew Kims 3 blogs. Candida eats the sugar in the blood causing low blood sugar and chronic fatigue. Some of the candida dies and the rest hides behind biofilm makes spores and goes dormant waiting for some food. After 24 hours follow the 80/10/10 program. This nourishes the cells and creates an atmosphere where candida does not reawaken. Watch raw food for candida videos.

Energy, Digestion, Eye Puffiness
Posted by Tochukwu (London) on 04/28/2014

What do mean by 80/10/10? You didn't explain it very well.

Energy, Digestion, Eye Puffiness
Posted by Anonymous (Usa) on 12/22/2014

Gasses don't 'pulsate' at high 'energies.' This is your typical bla bla of people without any science education. If you experience problems then I would think twice before taking any of the replies seriously!

Energy, Digestion, Eye Puffiness
Posted by Sam (Miami, FL) on 12/22/2014

Real kefir WON'T give you what you call side effects.

Kefir Tips
Posted by Ozmel (Melbourne, Australia) on 11/08/2013

Hello everyone, the kefir consumers,

I have been consuming kefir for the last 6 months. It really has done wonders for me for my bowel.

Please do not use metal utensils when dealing with kefir. It spoils in time. Instead of the benefits you will see ill effects. Metal containers, spoons, strainers and any other metal utensil will destroy your kefir. Wooden, glass and plastic utensils are the ones to use. You will see your kefir grow healthy and you will also take pleasure by sharing it with your friends.

Happy kefir making to all.


Kefir Tips
Posted by Planky (New York, United States) on 11/09/2013 8 posts

I bought water Kefir grain on ebay and instructions were not clear. Put it in sugared water and waited 36 hours and still looks like colored water. What should I do?

Kefir Tips
Posted by Mike 62 (Denver, Colorado) on 11/10/2013

Planky: I make kefir everyday from organic whole dried cane juice, called sucanet or rapadura, and organic buckwheat flour. If you use white sugar you have to add some blackstrap molasses for nutrients. You probably got kefir grains that were dormant. It takes around 4 days for them to fully wake up. Put 30g sugar in a pint of water. Wait 24 hours. Taste. When slightly sour add another 30g. Repeat this proceedure. When the kefir is fully awake the water gets vinegry instead of slightly sour. Drink. Start the next batch with 4oz. from the previous batch. Bubbles rising to the surface show that the kefir is fermenting. After the kefir grains wake up you can make more than 1 pint. I make a gallon per day. You have to feed them 30g sugar per pint.

Sharing Kefir Grains: Bangkok
Posted by Kath (Bangkok) on 08/31/2013

Getting Kefir in Bangkok... Nicole at Radiance Wholefoods on Sukhumvit Soi 22 shares Kefir grains with people. That's BTS Asoke or Prom Phong. The shop is open Monday to Friday 9-5. She also runs a Meet up in Bangkok for veganism / raw foods.

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