I accidentally stumbled upon this site and I have a horrible story to tell. I had been looking for a forum like this to tell my story back in July and August. In mid-July (2011) I took my 11 1/2 year old, very healthy lab/shepherd cross to get his annual rabies. The next morning, he went into a grand-mal seizure that lasted about 5 minutes. In the space of the next two hours, he had two more. We rushed him to our regular vet, where he seized in the waiting room. The vet gave him valium rectally and sent us to the emergency vet. They took him in immediately and the came back and reported that he seized yet again. They put him on IV valium, kept him one night and sent him home the next day. He was acting pretty drugged from the valium for the next two days, when I think the valium wore off and he started to seized yet again. The vet gave us some story about a brain tumor or some other cause and that it couldn't be the rabies vaccine. She put him on phenobarbitol, but he was never the same. I don't know if it was the PB or the vaccine, but he was lifeless, had ataxia (his legs would cross, he was uncoordinated and couldn't jump on our bed any longer). Two weeks into the PB, he died in the night. It looked like he had seized again.
After much research, I found that we Americans tremendously over-vaccinate our pets. There is evidence that the rabies vaccine lasts for seven years! But, of course you have drug companies fighting this evidence and municipalites that aren't going to bother with changing any laws. Since our dogs never go to boarding, dog parks, or anywhere else where proof of vaccination is needed, we have decided not to give our dogs annual vaccines anymore. The chance of getting rabies is so small for a dog that does not run in the wild, it is just not worth the risk. My boy is gone and I am devastated. We rescued another lab cross puppy. We are going through his puppy vaccines and he has had his first rabies shot. Perhaps at 6 years we will give him another, and that's it. Don't succumb to big brother and bad science.
When my dog becamse seriously ill, I found a product that used refined cow colostrum to substitute for a lack of immunity. Actual colostrum is a milk product and dogs stop absorbing milk after weaning. The refined product seems to overcome this problem. I have used this for dogs seeming to be under the weather. I used it for my own resistant respiratory infection.
I have heard that it is helpful if givern before and after doggie vaccinations. I had planned to use it for the next mandatory rabies vaccination. My dog died before I had a chance to use this.
Also rabies vaccinations are now usually given in a leg as opposed to the neck. This is because that vaccine can cause a specific cancer and a neck cannot be amputated. This infuriates me.
Also micro-chipped dogs and people can develop a specific cancer that grows around the glass enclosed chip. A certain company is working behind the scenes to make micro-chipping mandatory for certain populations.
I didn't chip my dog or vaccinate him during later adulthood. He died last Sunday; he was 15 years old. That is rare these days.
Since topical pest control products are nerve agents, I washed my dog often and used essential oils as flea and tick protection. Losing them at any age is just awful.
You don't have to give rabies vaccinations. If your pet gets any reaction to vaccines or any health problems all you need to do is to see holistic vet to give you a form that this animal can not be revaccinated.
Fountain Hills, Az
James Beats Odds Against Severe Adverse Reaction to Rabies Vaccine
That fateful day, August 27th 2016 would change our lives forever--especially for our senior dog boy. James received a 3 yr. Rabies Vaccine at almost 7.5 years young. No adverse reactions ever before this and he was given as being healthy, smiling like he finally is now. But within 24 hours of that Rabies Vaccine, he suffered a couple of mild seizures with trembling at first seen by me when I went into see him early the next morning. James was not himself. He was lethargic & appeared uncoordinated slightly like he had a mild stroke plus he was wheezing & drooling heavily with whitish foamy stuff.
Wondering at first, he was bitten by a snake, I immediately gave him 4 tablespoons of Activated Charcoal (keep on hand as it has saved 4 other Springers & humans before) mixed in warm water & pulled it up into a horse syringe & got it down him safely. Noticed his throat & neck/jaw appeared swollen and inflamed. Next, I gave him Allergic Pet's VSF Nuroplex to help stop any more seizures which I had on hand from my English Springer Spaniel "Gabby" who suffered from Idiopathic Grand-Mal Seizures when was alive in 2016. Had to rush him to the Emergency Animal Medical Center 10 minutes away & upon examination there was no evidence of any snake bite. However, before rushing him to the ER, noticed James was draining heavy whitish/frothy foam & large grayish/greenish mucus lumps from his mouth into his spring water bowl. James showed paralysis & was unable to move his neck & his lower jaw dropped down frozen as he could not pull it back up. He was clearly paralyzed. I asked if this was a severe reaction to the Rabies Vaccine but the doctors would not say. After finding zero bacteria in his mucus and no areas bitten, they gave me advice to give James Bendryl plus a safe form of Pepcid AC. He had no vomiting or diarrhea & the Benedryl did absolutely nothing except make him loopier & more imbalanced. Home again, for James's severe throat swelling/inflammation & Larynx swollen with severely swollen lymph nodes in his neck, I started him on my Solgar's Curcumin--opening the liquid gel caps mixing them with Coconut Oil & water given via syringe. I held his head up as he could not take it by himself.
By day 2, had a lengthy consult with Paw Healer's Holly Meade who express-mailed me their Lung Qi Support Damp Heat which I had to mix into soft liquefied Organic Pumpkin Puree & Turkey Bone Broth.
By day 3--made a 2nd ER trip to the Emergency Room with James and Vet Doctors did CatScans of his head, throat, & neck. They called it a rare form of Open Idiopathic Trigeminal Neuritis of his neck, throat & jaw but even 3 days later, when he received that Rabies Vaccine, doctors would not say it was directly caused by the 3 yr. Rabies Vaccine--Yet the symptoms I witnessed emulated everything about Rabies except for PICA (which James could not even eat dirt or pebbles) in the Paralytic Dumb Phase which is fully described with its symptoms by the Veterinary Merck Manual for Canines & Web PETMD https://www.petmd.com/dog/conditions/neurological/c_multi_rabies?page=show. James required my full assistance in feeding & giving him water via a syringe for 9 weeks straight. He was prescribed Temaril-P (a steroid to control severe inflammation)for 4 weeks and weened off of that as I was already using Pawhealer's Lung Qi to reopen his lungs by eliminating excessive fluids/mucus & 1/3rd teaspoon of Curcumin Complex Powder mixed with 2 teaspoonfuls liquid Coconut Oil three times daily for pain & inflammation reduction. I contacted Dr. Will Falconer DVM, a certified Homeopathic Vet in Texas & described everything to him that happened to James. He stated that he had personally witnessed "exactly the same thing that James went through" numerous times as a Traditional & Homeopathic Veterinarian--and in fact, James did have a severe life-threatening reaction to the Rabies Vaccine attacking his Central Nervous System as the Rabies Vaccine directly impacts the Nerves. It took James 8 long weeks to regain 80% of his strength plus another 10 weeks more to fully recover. He never use to have allergic reactions before until after being given that Rabies Vaccine.
Since, then I have had to do full Liver Detox using Dr. Jean Hovre's formula Liver Support for past 12 months & take him completely off dry kibble. Learned from Dr. Karen Becker that dry kibble is 50 - 60% carbohydrate starch & sugar. James will never again be able to have the Rabies Vaccine as it could kill him the next time. And, Dr. Falconer further re-iterated that James should be exempt & never again have the Rabies Vaccine because he already has more than enough antibodies against it for the rest of his life. He is undergoing special allergy testing this week and awaiting the results.
And, Liver Detoxing 3 weeks before any vaccine given & 3 weeks afterwards too. Since then Anti-Vaccinosis Protocol is a must for all our three English Springers. Per Dr. Peter Dobias DVM in Vancouver, Canada--3 days before James gets 4 pellets of 30c Thuja Occidentalis (without human hand touching to devoid the potency) twice daily & on day of, he and the others get 200c Thuja (thru Elixers.com or HomeopathyStore.com) and then 4 days afterwards, they all get 4 pellets of 200c Thuja.
Now, James must see a Veterinary Internist who will run a special drugs panel on his blood serum to determine what anesthesias are safe for James because he has had numerous inflammatory ear infections which have literally caused his ear canals to swell shut off and on from September 2017 forward (again after the Rabies Vaccine fiasco). He is currently on a special Rotation Diet of freeze-dried Rabbit, Turkey, Bison, & Cod (all Organic, non-GMO, wild-caught or grass-fed) with NWC Naturals Digestive Enzymes & Pre/Pro-biotics. Since it is 6 months changing his diet, he also gets Organic Spinach or Kale, Chard, or Celery, fresh blueberries, blackberries but no STARCH and avoiding all Brewer's Yeast. Was informed by Dr. Karen Becker, Holistic VMD that while detoxing James, his ears would get more debris & brown gunk coming out of them--this part is definitely true. And, now James has Dr. Mercola's Curcumin & Medicinal Mushroom Complex combo twice daily. He gets a special Vet Classics Anti-oxidant with Co-Enzyme Q-10 & Dr. Mercola's Krill Oils & Astaxanthin for his nerve, brain, eyes and skin. Additionally, he is on Allergic Pet's VSF Skin-Eze for past 18 months & his inflamed skin & ears have returned to normal. Believe both their Nuroplex which James must be on for rest of his life and Allergic Pet's Holistic Skin-Eze are helping with his dietary changes for the better. He has more energy & is smiling again which has been a long-time reappearing. Recently started him on Springtime's Raw Bee Pollen Granules (over 70 + vitamins, minerals, enzymes, nucleic acids) which is helping prevent allergic environmental reactions & food intolerances. The Rotational Diet is very similiar to Nutritional Ketogenic Diet using same Moderate Fresh Lean Meats (lightly baked in Spring water for 1/2 normal bake time) plus very low Carbs & high unsaturated healthy fats like Krill, Cod, & Coconut oils with Organic Raw Fruits n Veggies with low sugars. (No Chicken or eggs, though as they are suspected allergens). Clearly it is working as his energy level has soared since there are no grains & no starches & no dry kibble.
Will know better what he can safely have as food sources once Spectrum notifies my Veterinarian and we do a consult again. James is doing weekly ear cleanings by an Ear Specialist/Veterinary team to see if we can avoid having to do an expensive deep ear suctioning procedure. The Veterinarian doing this has tried for past 6 months twice to get a minature camera down James's ear canals to get a better look down beyond them to the ear drum area. That was unsuccessful still as of last week.
At first Zoetis's Apoquel was recommended but I refused that based upon clinical reviews that prove Apoquel causes agressive Lymphomas, Sarcomas, life-threatening pneumonia, severe nose bleeds, seizures, & death in dogs over 1 year of age. Emminent death is a result of it being tested on dogs under 1 year old. And, now the newest drug offering by Zoetis is Cytopoint, a monoclonal antibody that targets the Interleukin 31 in both canines and humans. Just as Apoquel permanently cripples the immune system by suppressing it so that Cancers rise up & attack as well as infections it appears Cytopoint is not much better. Interleukin 31 is a cytokine/protein encoded by the IL-31 gene and is made by type 2 helper T-Cells. If this monoclonal antibody targets & shuts down T (Thymus) and B (Bone-marrow) cells which are needed to successfully thwart Cancer Cells from multiplying once again, the dog's or pup's Immune System becomes suppressed giving rise to more mitochondria (energy cells) being destroyed because T & B Cells can't do their jobs of adaptive immunity defensive responses against invaders.
So bottom line: 36 Laboratory Beagles with already healthy immune defenses being tested by Zoetis's Cytopoint (Mono-Clonal Antibody) injections in-house for 7 months and rushed to market without any Unbiased Independent Clinical or University studies & longer period research/tests backing it up, clearly does not make a success story for Cytopoint. Prefer to use caution here as do all holistic veterinarians with common sense like Dr. Falconer. He is waiting for "the other shoe to drop and this newest drug will probably come back to bite you." (Vital Animal). His advice: Pet Parent Beware as do Dr. Andrew Jones, Dr. Edward Jones and other DVM's! Will update the results of James's Allergen Tests when they become available later by next week.
After my Yorkshire Terrier 18 mo. old puppy had his second rabies shot, he vomited after eating (any) food, and couldn't keep anything down. He was also having bloody diarrhea. His system was so severely inflamed that when the vet did a barium test with x-rays. Looking at the film, it appeared he had a large mass in his stomach (toy stuffing, they thought). The vet performed emergency surgery and found only inflammation in his stomach and intestines.
My clinical nutritionist advised I put him on a canine raw diet, and now he sees a holistic vet. The colitis ceased, but he is still very sensitive and can have an episode if we are not careful.
He has had no more rabies shots, nor yearly boosters. At 8 y/o now, he is quite healthy, but his diet remains strictly raw (Stella and Chewy's brand). If he eats anything other than his raw, or freeze dried diet, his stool becomes loose and mucusy. Our Vet has multi-degrees in veterinary studies and has attended many clinics on vaccines. I believe our pets are being over-vaccinated in this country. It's unfortunate that it is the law across-the-board that our pets be forced to have rabies shots even if they are strictly an indoor pet and never get boarded.
My Alaskan Husky (now 12) had a severe reaction to a rabies shot two years ago. He was almost completely paralyzed in the hind end. This is an animal that was like an olympic athlete, pulling my husband on rollerblades in the summer and skiis in the winter. The vets were of no help and actually caused more harm in trying to treat his reaction to their shot. Anyway, I used homeopathic vaccinosis remedies (rus toxin?) and a product called transfer factor (bovine colosturm). I also used fulvic acid (?) to remove heavy metals from his system. I had started him on a raw diet several months prior to the shot and am told by alternative medicine types that this helped in his healing.
I'm happy to report that he's active again. Not the athlete he once was, but he's older now too. The vaccine injury did age him a bit, but I'm delighted to have him (almost) back to his "old" self.
hi my name is melissa. i have a five month old alaskan malimute/ husky puppy. he had his two first series of shots on time then for his third ones about six hours later he stated to foam at the mouth twice within 20 minutes apart then bout four in half hours later he had a real bad seizure so i took him to the er vet he spent the nite he had anther at 615 that morn my vet stated him on phenobarbital at bout 11 this morn he hasent had one since but im scared. could there been an allergic reaction to the (rabies)shots he has been a very heathly active and smart little boy puppy. what could be wrong? thank u.
My dog got her rabies shot 2 weeks ago. Three weeks later there was a lump on the site of the injection. I called Vet. on Sat. she was not open but I left a message. I had some of Newton remedies drops for skin and started giving it to her. It had thuja in and and some other homeopathy in it. I order some thuja in pill form 30C and some Gel for swelling put in on the lump it has Arcia in now the lump is gone. Tues will be 2 week when she got the rabies shot. I am still giving the Thuja for the next week.
I have a 3 year Aussiedoodle that was due for his yearly rabies vaccination. He weighs around 45 lb (20 kg) and exhibited no visible behavioral problems or symptoms that could be attributed to an allergic reaction prior to his rabies shot. Having to comply with the provincial mandatory vaccination schedule, I took him to see his vet a week ago and he received a rabies shot. Unfortunately, I am not able to specify what type of rabies shot it was beyond the description that was imprinted on the receipt. Manufacturer/ type it describes is "Imrab 1 Merial". Having said that, my dog was taken for a rabies shot a year before and ended up licking his paw and leg to the point where there was no hair left there. We didn't connect this behavior to the rabies shot, since these symptoms were shown a week after the shot and we thought it might be an allergy to food or external factors. This time, as soon as we arrived home, my dog became lethargic and started pulling the hair out of his leg and licking the spot where the hair was pulled out. He crawled under the table and would not come out. We have a laser toy that he is obsessed with and as a last resort, we used it to lure him from under the table and he still wouldn't come out. His stool became slimy and was more dark and odious than usual. That was just the beginning. He started panting uncontrollably during the night and would not sleep, still licking his leg constantly. I called the vet and rather than even considering the possibility that this behavior could be attributed as a side effect to rabies vaccination, she said it must be the food we are giving him. My dog's diet has not changed in years and he never was allergic to it before, so I kind of knew this was a load of "youknowwhat". After not being able to sleep throughout the night because the dog kept making noises and panting like he was gonna get a heart attack, I just went online and kept researching rabies vaccination for canine. Surprised that a lot of dogs and cats cannot tolerate the vaccine and yet owners must vaccinate them as per law, doesn't make sense to me.
As a side note regarding allergies to food, I just want to say I used to have a Golden retriever and having lived in another country where dogs did not receive shots at all, my dog was fine all his life and also we didn't have kibbles to feed him. He was eating what we would eat (including spices, salt, garlic, onions....). Now that I know more about dog nutrition, I would never feed those things to my dog but it makes me wonder do we really know what is best for dogs and who decides. Profit or health?
Thuja seemed to be one thing that I could administer to him that few people reported it worked or moderately worked for their pets. Do I give him drops or pellets? Luckily, that was solved fast where all I could find in the health foos store were pellets. So, I bought Thuja occidentalis 30 CH pellets. Dosage recommended on the package is for humans and so I was unsure about the dosage for dogs. Everybody reports different administration and dosage, so I kind of took a chance with my own guesstimate. Two days ago I tried giving him pellets straight up. He sniffed it and walked away. Then I dissolved 5 pellets in one tablespoon of water and used a syringe to feed it to him. Didn't like the way I administered the pills, but once I did he kept licking his face as in "more". So, that was two days ago and so far, I've given him this dosage once a day. Results so far are great. He is back to his old ways, personality wise. Not lethargic anymore, runs around and we were finally able to sleep through the night. The panting subsided significantly and while he still licks his leg, it is not continuously like before. I will continue to administer Thuja for him and keep you updated. I apologize about the long post in advance and hope you guys read this before you vaccinate your pets, since Thuja can be administered to pets before the rabies vaccine in order for pets to tolerate it better. Will keep you posted about the progress in few weeks.
The homeopathic remedy Thuja Occidentalis can be helpful if you notice urinary problems after vaccines. Give a total of 3 doses -- day 1, day 2 and then day 5. So if you gave the 1st dose on Monday, the second dose would be given on Tuesday and the last dose would be given on Friday. I usually just give a dry dose and put it in the side of their mouth.
Los Angeles, CA
Hi. I have just started giving my dogs (7 yr old, 60 lbs; 11 yr old, 80 lbs) a supplement that contains 250mg "milk thistle seed extract" and 250mg of "milk thistle seed" twice a day in their food. The 60 lb dog can be agressive towards her sister and her brother cats. She has also always had stomach issues at least once a month (used to be once a week) when she will have rumblings and will not want to eat all day but seems fine otherwise and still wants to play. The next day she is fine. The last time, I found explosive dark colored diarrhea in the basement (sorry. ) I also give them about 1 tbs of ACV (once a day), and a fish oil capsule with both feedings.
My questions are: They are due next month for their state mandated rabies vaccine. Since I am giving them the milk thistle, do I still need to give them thuja before and after their shots? Also, is this dosage of milk thistle enough? Is it OK to keep them on the daily milk thislte, or is this meant as a short term detox? Thanks in advance.
We just got a 4 month old german shepherd puppy and a little gray kitten from the animal shelter. Well when you get them from the shelter they make you get their shots in order to adopt. So before I did all the research, we had them get their vaccines.
The kitten was super lovey then after the shots she kept hiding and was stand offish and seemed nervous, and she slept like all day after that. This was 4 days ago, well she's doing better but I would like to know the dosing for that Thuja for a 4lb kitten or any recomendations just to make sure that she is really better.
And then there is the puppy He is so full of energy anyway but he seems a little wired even for him and he is itching like crazy and smelly even after I bathe him and I just found alot of little pimples all over his stomach. He had his shots like 3 weeks ago. Can I give him the Thuja also? I also will not be doing the vaccines again. Please let me know, any advice welcome.
My almost 4 month old Aussie has a bad reaction to a vaccination. Parvo/distemper. He is having head tremors.
I contacted a homeopathic vet, and she said to give him Thuja. How much do I give him? I bought 30 and 200. I read to give him one dose a day for a week, then one dose a day of sulpher fr a week. I also got him tincture of Milk thistle. How much do I give him? He weighs about 28 pounds Thanks
Homeopathic for Rabies side effects:
1 dose of homeopathic Thuja cured my dog of his rabies vaccination side effects.
My goldendoodle goes to daycar 1 or 2 days per week. He is mild mannered and gentle. Within 1 week of his first rabies vaccine, the daycare owner said that Farley was picking fights and and really going for blood. He did that a couple of days and was about to be "kicked out of school."
I consulted with Farley's former trainer. Then I realized he'd had that rabies shot about 2 weeks before. Based on past learning and experience, I gave him one dose of Thuja 30C (available in any healthfood store) and waited a few days.
When Farley went back to daycare, he was back to being a perfect gentleman and has remained so for 3 years. Yes. It's time for another government-mandated vaccine that I'd rather avoid. But I'll give him the Thuja and he'll be fine.
The Nature of Animal Healing by Martin Goldstein DVM is an excellent source regarding the dangers of vaccines. I too had a cat experience an allergic reaction (anaphylaxis) with the Feline Leukemia vaccine. She lived since prompt medical care was possible. However, last week, I tried to save a 3 month old kitten (feral) with a temperature of 106, diarrhea and vomiting. Homeopathics were attempted as well as antibiotics and Sub-Q fluids. We lost her. Two vets believed it was from feline distemper. Goldstein in his work does recommend one feline distemper injection for kittens for lifetime immunity. However, vaccines are over done, and there is evidence that the leukemia one does not have a good success rate (check the internet). It is a difficult decision whether to vaccinate or not, but less I feel is better. Rabbies should not be given as a combo is what I have read in different sources. The rabbies vaccine should also be given at a different time then the other vaccinations.
Thuja homeopathic is supposed to help the ill effects of vaccines. It is non toxic. It can be taken with antibiotics and other medications. It won't interfer with western medicine. To administer, dilute a pellet or tablet of 30c in water and apply a dropperful to the mucous membranes of the mouth, drop by drop. For the medication to be effective, it needs to be administered in this format. The pill or tablet can not be given by having the animal swallow it whole. Doing so, would yield no results. It needs to be diluted in water only and administered two times a day for two-three days. There is no taste to the mixture, so animals accept it well. I have had experience with cats in a shelter using homeopathics and have seen respiratory infections resolve quickly. I have used it on my own cats for asthma and infections with excellent results. But finding the correct homeopathic to turn around a major disease such as feline distemper can be very difficult, if not almost impossible. I say "almost" hesitantly because I still do believe there was a homeopathic that could have turned the kitten around, but I didn't have it in my cabinet. This is where vaccines can assist in prevention. Therefore, a feline distemper vaccine administered to a kitten may be warranted for, according to Goldstein, it seems to offer lifetime immunity. Once again, I do believe that vaccines are administered in too high combo's which can be dangerous. Moderation is always the best course of action. Hope this helps.
The above information is offered for education purposes only and a vet should be consulted when a course of action is desired.