I did the Ted's Mange Remedy for the first time today on my dog, Toffee, which had on her hairless open sores on lower back oozing and red. After applying the remedy, all instructions followed, the sores seems to be stinging much and she was like wanting relief and whining. Most posts say remedy is harmless and painless. But she seemed to be hurting much. Will it happen again when I repeat treatment? Please let me know what to expect next. Thank you.
Hey Yolanda!
I've used Ted's Mange Remedy countless times and it has never pained my animals. That said, my animals never had open, weeping lesions on their body during treatment. The hydrogen peroxide can sting a bit on open wounds, however in this case it would seem beneficial for your dog despite the stinging.
I have to ask - are you sure your dog has mange? Have you gone to the vet for a scraping to confirm mites? Many times hairless, open sores on the lower back are related to a flea infestation. It would be wise for you to explore this possibility and do what you can to eliminate fleas in the areas where your dog stays. Borax sprinkled on the ground will help eliminate fleas, and some find adding a small amount of Borax in the dogs drinking water also helps eliminate fleas [dosage 1/16 of a teaspoon into 1 liter of water].
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Hi Yolanda, I agree with Theresa that you should get this diagnosed by a vet. It could also be pyoderma, something I am struggling with on one of my dogs. Perhaps you can look up both conditions on Google images and see if you can match it.
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Yolanda from Quit, Ecuador --- maybe you want to spray those sores with aloe vera or even with chamomile tea. I use UT with great results but not everyone does this. Then, you can mix turmeric with VCO and be not so sparingly with the yellow stuff. Later, you can clean the skin again with Aloe Vera. See how it works. If it is flea related, use orange essential oil as in household products. It works for me.
Namaste, Om
EC: Hi Om, by UT, do you mean Urine Therapy?
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Some dogs that have mange get a skin infection due to the mange which is the open sores . You need an antibiotic for that along with ted's treatment . I took my dog to the vet for mange and the medicine they gave him was a oral liquid and it almost killed him. The medicine caused him to become blind . the vet said it wasn't the medicine making him not able to see. Well, we stopped the medicine and he got his sight back. So we decided to stick to a safer way of curing the mange, borax, water and vinegar. Thankful for the internet.
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Hi,
We just figured out that we have a goat with mange. It is near his eyes. We are using Ted's remedy with borax and peroxide, but I am concerned about getting it in his eyes. It this bad to get in the eyes? Would there be a safer alternative?
I am planning to use garlic internally and also put borax in the water.
I have read that I can use tea tree essential oil (1 T. per cup of water) on mange, but that doesn't sound good around the eye either.
Thanks!
~Mama to Many~
Hey MtM!
I've made up gallon upon gallon of Ted's Mange remedy and splashed it all over my face - into my eyes - with no adverse effects; in fact, I don't feel anything from it, no stinging at all. It might be different if you were to soak your eyeball in the solution for 10 minutes, but getting it splashed into the eye was not a problem for me.
A remedy that has a bit more 'body' to it would be sulpher powder with a carrier oil. Not sure if it would annoy the goat and cause it to rub its face and possibly smear the sulpher into its eye, however.
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Dear Theresa,
Thanks so much for your response and information. That is very helpful! I will let you all know how it turns out for Cinnamon. :)
~Mama to Many~
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Hi!
Our goat, Cinnamon, appears to be cured! We used Ted's mange remedy several times over a couple of weeks. (But we didn't bathe her in it, she is too big. We washed her with it.) We also gave her garlic internally a couple of times a week. We also used tea tree essential oil. (1 Tablespoon tea tree per cup of water.) My son found the tea tree/ water spray to be the easiest. He did this a number of times over the last month or 6 weeks.
So, I am not sure just what worked or if all three were needed. But the mange is gone and the fur is growing back. Cinnamon is happy and so are we!
~Mama to Many~
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My 8 year old golden has a serious case of demodicosis (adult onset) that we have been treating for about a month with no success. Has the remedy of borax and hydrogen peroxide solution been tried on demodecosis? Any success? If yes, do you follow the say treatment pattern?
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Hey Thunderpaw!
Can you clarify please, if you have treated for 1 month with the borax/peroxide solution and no results?, OR if you have treated in another fashion with no results?
Next, I am confused by the formula you listed. I have treated juvenile generalized demodicosis with Ted's remedy with 100% success - this is the formula I used:
1 16 oz brown bottle of 3% solution hydrogen peroxide from grocery store.
I dumped that into a jug and then added 2 bottles of filtered tap water using the now empty brown bottle from the hydrogen peroxide, giving me 48 oz of 1% hydrogen peroxide solution.
Now, into the jug full of 1% solution I add 1 full cup of borax [from the laundry aisle at the grocery store]. Shake it up - there should be so MUCH borax in the solution that some grains remain and do not dissolve.
I then fill my bath tub with very warm water and set the jug in the tub; by the time the tub cools down enough to comfortably bathe the dog, the contents of the jug are nicely warmed also. Now bathe the dog with the shampoo of your choice and then rinse all the shampoo out. I drain the tub and when all the shampoo and water have drained, I plug it up again so it will again hold water. Then I shake up the solution in the jug and pour it all over the dog. I then use a plastic cup to scoop up the solution in the bottom of the tub and then pour that over the dog. Do this again and again, re-wetting the dog with the grainy solution, for at least 10 minutes. Next part: do NOT rinse the solution off the dog. Take your sopping wet dog and put him in a crate with no bedding; you want as much solution to remain wet on the dog while he sits in the crate - give it another half an hour in the crate to allow the solution to 'work'. After half an hour I let my dog out and towel dry, and then let him shake the grains of borax out of his coat. It helps to turn the heat up in the house so the dog isn't freezing while sitting wet in the crate. I have doubled the batch of solution simply because its so inexpensive and it makes it easier to saturate a big dog.
You should dip your dog in this solution every other day - 2 to 3 times the first week; after the first week do once per week for 8 weeks. If you have a black dog the coat will bleach to a reddish hue due to the bleaching nature of the peroxide.
The dip should work be it juvenile demodex or adult onset; the mite is the same mite. However with adult onset demodex an underlying disease condition affecting the immune system is at play; removing the mites will bring your pet relief, but the illness that depressed the immune system to allow the mites to over grow still remains and will need to be diagnosed and addressed.
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Today is the 2nd wash my pet dog (muttley an American Pit Bull) has had in 3 days. Hydrogen Peroxide has been too expensive to buy in any event I have not been able in isolated rural to purchase larger amounts, and as Hydrogen Perixide or vinegar is the vessle for getting Borax through my dogs skin I have purchased 2 litre bottles of vinegar and if I may make comment for what it is worth from personal observation, the Borax/Vinegar remedy from the outset has been very effective against Demodex mange, Muttley has stopped scratching a complete turnaround , I intend to continue the treatment METHOD: In a metal bowl I empty 1 to 2 litres of vinegar and heat on the stove (this raises the solubility of borax in solution= more potent)and add and stir 250 -300 grams of Borax. After showering Muttley thoroughly with shampoo and scubbed with a soft brush and rinsed, the Borax /vinegar solution is applied thoroughly, and left to dry naturally (No Towels) Note : the small bottle of 3% 100 ml Hydrogen Peroxide is kept in my medical tool kit is used if ever Muttley were to eat poison. Hydrogen Peroxide is used to induce vommitting (apply 1ml to 1 kilo body weight DYOR) Cudos to Ted from Malaysia for sharing his research and remedy
Hey Matross!
Whoo hoo for APBT Muttley!
Now that you have seen a drastic improvement, you may wish to cut back bathing to bathing 1x week for 8 weeks. The mite lifecycle is about 21 days, and so you want to treat once per week for at least 3 weeks, and then a few more weeks after your dog seemed cured to ensure the mites have been eliminated. Remember - Ted indicates that the borax solution be a saturated solution, so keep heating and stirring until the grains fail to dissolve to create the proper strength solution.
I like using the hydrogen peroxide to induce vomitting too; these bulldawgs are just so naughty they seem to get into *everything*! Do consider keeping activated charcoal [available at drug stores, or aquarium stores] on hand in cases of poisoning where vomitting is not indicated.
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I'm sorry, but I'm not a whiz when it comes to measurements and I'm still confused as to how much to mix the peroxide and borax to make a solution. Please give me in "lamen" terms how to mix the solution. Secondly, how is it applied when it's on my puppy's face and last, did I read correct that after you apply you do not rinse the dog? Oh and also, how long do I need to do this for? Many thanks!
Hey Summer!
Here is Ted's Mange remedy in layman's terms and I used it on my own puppy to completely resolve her demodex:
1 brown bottle of hydrogen peroxide from the grocery store [its a 16 oz bottle of a 3% solution]
1 box Borax from the laundry aisle [unscented]
I dumped the hydrogen peroxide in a big jug and added 32 ounces [or two of the brown bottle filled up twice] of filtered tap water. This gives you 48 ounces of a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution that is needed for the next step.
Next add 1 cup of borax crystals to the jug and shake. There should be undisolved grains of borax in the mix - this is what you want to see. Now you have a jug of cold solution -I filled my tub with hot water and rested the jug in the tub; when the solution inside the jug was nice and warm, the tub was cool enough to bathe my dog, so I bathed her in doggy shampoo and then rinsed well, and pulled the plug on the tub. When the tub was empty I plugged it up again and poured the grainy solution over my dog. I then used a plastic cup to scoop up the solution and kept pouring the solution over her again and again and again. You can use a wash cloth to sop up the solution to apply to your dogs face. I have had it splashed about and got it in my own eyes - it didn't feel like anything, so its safe if you should splash it in yours or your puppy's eyes. After about 10 minutes of pouring the solution over her I let her drip off in the tub and then DO NOT RINSE. I picked her up bare handed and then I crated her in an empty crate without bedding and let her sit for another half an hour to let the solution 'work', and then after that I let her out to romp around and work herself dry. So you do NOT rinse, you leave the solution on to drip dry until the next dip.
The first bath may result in a massive mite die-off so it may *appear* that the condition temporarily worsens, and so on my puppy one area did seem to appear a bit angry the next day. But other than that initial die off all I saw was improvment week by week as the dark angry patches turned to pale pink and then faded away to normal skin.
I treated once per week for 10 weeks - this past the time that I saw what appeared to be a complete resolution to her condition. I did the extra treatments only because the standard veterinary protocol suggested continued treatment after the condition appeared to resolve using Ivermectin and Amitraz.
I have never seen such an effective home remedy. Two thumbs UP to Ted from Bangkok!
NOTE: I understood from the notes that its best to make the 1% solution first rather than dumping the borax and 3% hydrogen peroxide in together and then adding 32 ounces of water to make the needed dilution as this approach will somehow result in a weaker solution. Its in the feedback, but I can't tell you *where*! "
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Re: Ted's Dog Mange Cure... I was skeptical but have an old German shepherd with demodectic mange. Could not afford treatments. I used this twice ten days apart and noticing huge difference. Dog was almost completely bald but now growing hair back.
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Phyllis from Washington, DC. I have a 4 yr. old pitbull, with demodectic mange. I was wondering, giving him this treatment outside. I have a huge tub and also a large cage for him to dry in. The weather here is 80 to 97 degrees. Will this make a difference of starting the treatment??
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Hey Phyllis!
I see no problem with bathing your pit bull outside when the weather is so warm - go for it!
One thing to mention, however, is that demodex seen in a 4 year old adult can indicate an undiagnosed problem such as hypothyroid or other such underlying issue.
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Hi. We don't have borax in our country. what else could I use? thanks
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Hey Lexi!
EC has a page for locating borax - there may be some sources or alternatives for you here:
https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/borax15.html#PHILIPPINES
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Hi. I have a 2 month old chihuahua puppy with demodex. He is approx 2lbs (at most), and it's mostly on his head.
Is this recipe ok for such a little guy?
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Hey Vanessa!
Ted's Mange Remedy is perfectly safe for your dog and if you accidentally splash some in his eyes it doesn't sting. Even though the demodex appears to only be on his head at this time, you should dip the entire dog - and repeat for at least 8 dips - once per week [I recommend 12 dips], even if it seems to clear up right away.
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The Vets do not know what is wrong with my 5 pounds 13 year old Yorkie. I have come to believe that it is some kind of mange me even though skin scrapings showed nothing. She has an enlarged heart probably due to the prednisone and antibiotics she was living in for months! I tried baking soda and vinegar, even diluted, and she scratches like crazy. Same with baking soda and peroxide. I tried the borax and peroxide, diluted, (Ted's) and she seemed much better, however, I was afraid to continue because before trying this she had a problem with drinking too much water and spitting it back up only out of her throat, I figure, because even after eating no food came up out of her stomach. After using the borax and peroxide treatment, when she spit up the water, now there was also blood. I am really big on natural treatments, so I immediately feed her Cayenne and coconut oil. After 3 or 4 times she was fine. I want to know, has anyone else had experience of dog spitting blood after using borax and peroxide treatment? Wondering if it is due to her licking it off of her. Can it cause that type of irritation? Does mixing the borax with the peroxide cause it to become boric acid?
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Hey Brenda!
Sorry to hear about your senior Yorkie's troubles.
For the itchy skin, you might consider using Ted's Anti-fungal/Anti-staph remedy:
Mix 1 tbsp of MOM with 1 tbsp epsom salt and 1 tbsp borax into 1 cup of water and 1/2 cups of 3% hydrogen peroxide - this is the brown bottle of hydrogen peroxide sold at the grocery store. Double or triple the amounts if you need a bigger batch to thoroughly saturate your dog. You follow the directions for dipping her same as the mange remedy.
I have heard of 2 other situations where dogs have vomited after Ted's mange dip; my only thoughts were that one case might have had a super nervous dog and the other might have been a Herx reaction. Your situation sounds different; your dog was already vomiting before the dip, and since the dip you now see blood. Drinking too much water and spitting it back out from her throat makes me think conditions such as megasophagus; you would have had a history of vomiting if this were the case. I also am thinking there could be a collapsed trachea involved, but you would hear coughing if this were the case. Reaching at straws here, but the over drinking could be a sign of pain; blood in the vomit might indicate ulcers in the GI tract or another stomach disorder.
Aside from the itchy skin, and the over drinking/vomiting - is she OK and normal otherwise? Is she happy or is she not her normal self?
And no, borax does not become boric acid when mixed with hydrogen peroxide :-)
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Hello Brenda --- I very much agree with Theresa.
I would add that at this moment you need to give SLIPPERY ELM powder to your pet. I gave it recently to a cat with good results. Find it online plus info on this very effective herb. It heals damage to the stomach and digestive tract and is a blessing for all who have leaky guts. Give it with honey made with warm water, using a whisk (1 tsp) for a few days mixed into a bit of the food. About twice a day. You can get it also a a health food store. Good health to both of you.
Namaste, Om
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Hi Ted, Applied the hydrogen peroxide/borax to each of our 4 cats last night and they actually enjoyed the experience. Thank you so much. One cat was purring in the bath, and their coats never looked better. They air dried, seemed quite content, and slept like lambs:) However--and this is the big issue--we need to combat the mites (black specks, not flea dirt) from the inside. This is an ongoing problem in our house and we need to eradicate it asap. The baths are a quick fix if I understand your information, but not a permanent solution.
How would I administer the borax in catfood? You mentioned your dog takes 1/8 tsp. In a liter of water. That's great for dogs, but not so much for cats who are notorious for not drinking water. Thank you so much for your invaluable help.
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I have a dog with d-mites... Yes, I went through the vet first, but it only got worse, and its already been a month. So, now Im taking it into my own hands.
Ted, AND whoever else has done the Borax cure- is it suppose to be pasty? watery (I havent done it yet- finding out everything before doing it to my dog)
Also, do I keep her indoors, or outdoors, I don't mind either way, but just need to know what is better (she is housebroken thank god), is it a good idea to get a cone, so she cant lick herself?
Also, last one, is it safe to put on her face/head... only place she has no D-mites is in her ears... But otherwise she is a walking outbreak (almost $250 later, and vet didnt help)
Please, I definately want to help my poor girl out
My old shepherd got her treatment yesterday on the lawn which made it really easy for both of us. I used ACV instead of H202. The mixture was watery with a lot of borax undissolved on the bottom of the dish. After all this scratching and agony she lay still and fell into a deep sleep right afterwards.
My sprayer did not work so I just poured the solution on her and rubbed it into her skin. She never tried to lick herself which amazed me.
Will repeat again till all the itching stops. She had no lesions, only dry, itchy skin.
Some of the solution will be kept for ear mites for the cats and some more for my itchy face. While I was working on her, a bug bit me and I put the solution on the bite, instant relief. So I know my dog must have been totally relieved after the months long torture. This is how I tried her medication on myself, great.
This, being summertime, was very easy but NEVER leave your wet dog out in cold weather. You could lose your dog to pneumonia.
Thanks, Ted, you are an angel. Om
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My concern is if we stop using the remedy they will come back. Currently we are doing this every other day mostly on her paws, legs, stomach, chest and neck. Her back is not really affected. So I am trying not to use all over if not necessary. is this ok? Can I eventually go down to 1x per week indefinitely?
What dangers, if any, are there in doing this?
What would be another remedy you can recommend to perhaps maintain not having the mites come back.
Neem, ACV< diamtous earth??? thank you?
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Sarcoptic mange treatment: Hello, Is the Borax solution safe to use if the dog is being treated with Revolution at the same time?
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Hi there, I've been reading the posts and am a bit confused as to the exact process to follow when using Borax to kill Sarcoptic mange.
We rescued a 3 month old pup from the Dominican and what we thought were irritations and scabs from a flea infestation turned out to be Sarcoptic mange. She is being treated with Revolution, as are my other 2 dogs, but I'd like to do the Borax dip on all and find out what to use to clean the areas the dog has been (bed, crate, carpet etc. )
Can you tell me the proportions to use and how frequently... Also anyone know how long she needs to be isolated from the other dogs and us? She is so pitiful all alone in the other room :(
EC: Hi! Please go to the very top of this section: https://www.earthclinic.com/pets/dog_mange_cure.html#TEDS and click on the "Treatment" tab (the tab next to Ratings & Reviews). You will find Ted's detailed instructions there.
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I Love Earth Clinic... It is by far the best site I've found... I do however have a problem. I find unless I have a large amount of time to read all posts on the subject, I have alot of trouble finding recipe [with exact amounts, order of mixing] I have 4 dogs that I need to do today and now I can't find this info. Please can someone help? Thank You, Traci
EC: Hi Traci, you can find instructions for Ted's mange cure here: https://www.earthclinic.com/pets/dog_mange_cure.html#TEDS
Click on the Treatment tab. You can print or email the instructions.
I am wondering if I can use this on a guinea pig that has mites? I feel terrible for her because she is itching like crazy and I cannot get her to a vet until Monday and I want something to help her :(
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Just wondering if you have any experience with a lime/sulfur dip for mange? I am having trouble with mites and am not positive it is mange, as I can see the mites easily, and they are about the size of a coffee ground with a nasty bite. I have dogs, cats, goats and chickens, not to mention wild things, like coyotes and bobcats. Suggestions? I tried the borax and H202 and still am plagued. Thanks for any advice.
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Watchmom3 from abilene, texas: years ago I was infected with scabies twice. I took three little globules of PSORINUM 30C homeopathic remedy and within thirty minutes all was gone. Cost about ten bucks.
Beware of allopathic remedies: expensive and very toxic. Hope this helps. Om
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I'm so grateful my friend said that's not fleas that's mange!! I just applied 1/2 cup peroxide, 1 cup water and ran to the store and found borax. I mixed the solution and its not pasty but gritty. My Pomeranian is 4, we've never had fleas but this? Wow! She's nearly bald on her back, horrid scaps across her back and to tail and scratches all day! I've done every flea remedy known to man and daily she's worse. Anyway I applied it and while she's not happy she hasn't scratched once. I heard using olive oil to help the skin is good. Ted what do you think? Should I drop borax onto our carpet and let sit then vacuum? I heard that we can get it from them and is scabies? What do you think? She's so severe should I do daily or every other until improvement? Bless you so much. I'm NOT working and can't afford huge vet bills.
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Hi all, It seems difficult to find 20 Mule Borax brand here but I manage to find the brand Three Elephant Borax. My question is will it be ok to substitute the 20 Mule with Three Elephant Borax? Are they the same in terms of effectiveness? Hope to hear from you soon so that I can start treating my poor dog. Thanks in advance.
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We rescued a pit bull who was covered in mange. I took him to the vet for dips but they did not work so I tried Ted's Remedy. I mixed the solution as directed and applied weekly. What a difference! The mange is gone and he looks great! I highly recommend Ted's treatment over toxic vet remedy's, it works way better and costs a lot less. Thanks Ted and Earth Clinic!
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I am at my wits end I have been trying this cure of borax and peroxide for about two weeks. My dog does not seem to be getting better. She is still red and hairless on 2 spots on her back and around her neck. I spray her almost everyday and it just doesn't seem to be working. What should I see after 2 weeks? Should she still be red on these spots? Her skin is very dark looking.
Have you tried Apple Cider Vinegar, the one with the mother in it? I would do a water and ACV combo half and half and get a spray bottle and spray him at least 3 times a day. This should keep the ph level at a level that nothing can grow within that environment. I hope that helps if you haven't alady tried it. Good luck and I am sorry they are suffering...
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Check your dog food for corn. Corn heats up their system and causes them to chew and itch. It is twice as bad in warmer climates. I feed a lamb and rice dog food with no corn and wheat. Nature's Recipe is one to try. Good luck!
P.S. you can also add a couple of squirts of Lynatone (vitamin e oil) to their food for much needed oil back in the skin and coat. You can buy at most pet stores and feed stores.
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Yes, I was wondering about the message someone else left about treating their dog with the borax and after 2 weeks there was no improvement. I also have tried the peroxide and borax, with no improvement. So I got some ac vinegar, only seen improvement the day of use, but next again the bumps were back. My question I guess is how long before I see that its working? Also she (my dog) just finished her medicine of ivermec from the vet. I'm desperate to help my furry family member, im talking about the dog not my 17 year old.
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l don't know if you all have read Ted's remedy but he says to give them baths in the mix. No drying or rinsing it off either. The spray is only for any after itching. Please be sure to treat the bedding where they lay. Washing with borax helps tremendously.
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Possibly a secondary skin infection from the irritation from the mites. May need antibiotics to take care of that.
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You actually have to dip the dogs because the mites will find another spot to go if you just spray. Thoroughly soak your dogs.
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Hi Ted, Cherry, my 5year old labrador-daschund cross has been sufferring from itchiness, sores & vast hairloss ever since she was 1. Antibiotics, medicated washes gave only temporary relief. The worst part was that vets here could nt diagnose her problem! Can u believe that?! I was almost at my wits end. All traumatized 'cause I couldnt bear to see her suffer like this. It is not untill recently that I figured out through my own research that she was suffering from mange. I have finally begun with your treatment. I've done the first application. I plan to do it once a week. Just to not have her to undergo the torture of these chemicals everyday or do u suggest I do it everyday?? I'm applying a mixture of neem oil & vegetable oil on her skin at night time to moisturize her skin and facilitate hair growth. Let's see how this goes... I'm optimistic 'cause she seems to show improvement. She hasn't been scratching much.. Except for a few times. She's barking, comes out of her hide-out and waggs her tail occasionally. Thankyou Ted... You are a saviour. I have been yearing since years to see her get back to her normal self. I hope that happens soon.. With your treatment. Thankyou.. God Bless. Ramya
