Ulcer Remedies

I seem to remember reading in Henry Bieler's book, "Food is Your Best Medicine" (1965?) that fresh raw moist baker's yeast on an EMPTY stomach (maybe mixed with tomato juice?) heals stomach ulcers. Please get the book to confirm if this is correct before trying this. I just wanted to put out another option in case it might help someone.

Kefir for Ulcers:

I have had chronic heartburn for months now, but about a week ago I started to have agonizing pains especially at night under my left ribcage, so bad that I haven't slept for days. My doctor doubled my Zantac from 150 mg once to twice a day, and I had Carafate that I used intermittently, but that didn't do. I also tried cabbage juice, slippery elm, DGL, Siberian Pine Nut Oil, bananas, probiotics, ACV, etc., and nothing helped -- until I tried plain, ordinary kefir.

I drank the first cupful of keir and I could feel relief fairly quickly, so then I repeated it often, as frequently every 2 hours or so, as soon as I felt the slightest discomfort, all day long. Today is my second day and the only reason I was able to sleep during the night was because I kept drinking it as soon as I could feel the burn/pain or before. I don't feel that agonizing pain now, and I don't appear to have the need for drinking it as frequently. Pain is an indicator and as of right now, it has diminished dramatically. I don't think things have healed yet, but it's significant that I feel so much better.

Kefir is a thick liquid full of probiotics, and it coats the tissues in addition providing the bacteria needed - and not quite the same as taking capsules. In addition, it's cheaper than all the other things I've tried that didn't work. I also reduced my food intake to softer, more easily digested foods, such as bananas, oatmeal and to non-abrasive, easily digestible foods just to keep from aggravating things, if only until I get straightened out enough and then just watch what I eat afterwards. I think I will still continue some of my medication to reduce acid, but only for a short time to make sure I continue doing well.

ACV has lots of benefits. I even cured myself of a mild ulcer using ACV. Just drink one 20ml shot of ACV before each meal and enjoy the healing to many parts of the body.

Hello, I have been suffering from an ulcer, undiagnosed as I am scared of endscopy procedure. When you have pain why don't you try the cayenne pepper? It relives pain quick. Also the ACV, try without the baking soda and it should help. I have till now tried: manuka honey( did not provide relief, I think I might not be using the right brand :() which brand do you use? Aloe vera which I find quiet a relief for the pain if I keep sipping it here and there throughout the day. Pine nut oil: only had it twice for two days for the bleeding ulcer and I think it helped. Not been regular, quiet expensive for a small bottle. Mastic gum: I was on and off with first bottle apparently you have to take it regularly for a month or two, so I have ordered two new bottles. Dgl: I dont know if its helping but I keep taking it. My fav, cayenne pepper, sounds odd was hesitated to try but wow! Really relives pain and stops bleeding of the ulcer. Chamomile and fenugreek tea: I dont know if its helping but I am on and off. Cabbage juice: I think it made my pain worse so avoiding it for while. Recently looking into an alkaline and meat free diet I am mostly sugar free anyway to see it helps. Also going to add ACV 2x aday to see if it makes any difference. I feel so good most days but not quiet success with healing. But I am praying a lot. Will keep updated.

Cabbage Juice for Ulcer:

The cabbage juice worked for me in 2 days. Problem is keeping up with it. Its easy to do on the weekends when I am home, but when I am at work it's not so easy. And yes the pain will go away, but you still need to keep taking it otherwise the pain comes back. I am going to try juicing before or after work and using the glutamine powder during the day when I am at work.

I am Anjo Herbal, From Nigeria,

My wife have ulcer for ten years she drunk a litter of cabbage juice a day after some week the ulcer disappear for two years, and again to my surprise ulcer just come up today please I need help what next advice me. she drink the cabbage juice the pain come higher than before.

Hi there, I had ulcers last year and tried cabbage juice and it gave me wind and burping but no real help. Some people cannot tolerate it. What helped me at the time was taking proton pump inhibitors. I live in the UK and cannot afford to keep trying this and that, works out too hit and miss and far too expensive. Now it may have returned. I think it is important to have good appetite, eat soft food, make sure you have nutrition and have other things that help like fibre and omega 3 etc the usual and be patient as it takes time.

Maybe those who get ulcers are prone to them returning later if not careful.

I tried cabbage in 2011 before my first hospitalization from a duodenal ulcer. But maybe I didn't do it right. I'll try it again. I know I found it has glutamine on it so I took high doses of glutamine too. Didn't help. Could be probiotics. I take those. No go. But in the rat studies where they have the rats cysteine and B6, one of the studies also gave hydrogen sulfide, which is a metabolite of cysteine in the metabolic pathway, and that worked too. In the rat study. Interesting because you reminded me of that when you mentioned the sulfide smell in the cabbage you spit out.

To Rajbir - raw potato juice or raw cabbage juice. Om

Carmel: DGL and the herb Comfrey are very good for healing the gut. Some digestive enzymes and probiotics would also help. Kefir, Kraut, and Yogurt are beneficial. Acid reducing medications can help but I wouldn't advise anything over 1 or maybe 2 months.

The natural antioxidant compounds in Cabbage, Broccoli, and Brussel Sprouts have been clinically proven to kill the h Pylori bacteria that causes ulcers.

Just want to share that I've got an ulcer, too. I had been using aloe vera straight from the leaf. Just cut off 2 inches, (the leaves are big!) peel it down to just the clear gel inside, pop it in a blender with the juice of a lime or lemon, 5 times the amount of juice in water, some sweetener and drink it down first thing in the morning and last thing at night. It worked great! Until I ran out of aloe vera! :( you can sometimes find it fresh like that in international grocery stores for quite a good price - in the produce section.

CRISTINA, don't have your problem, but have researched and ozonated water is reported to cure your problem. You don't need a high dollar medical oxygen system like I have to make ozonated water. You can make it from the air around you with a simple system. Quit messin around with folks pissin in the wind. If you can't find a system on the internet, holler back and I will find one for you.

I wish you well. =====ORH======

You know what's even better from step #1 in this drink? Replace the skim milk with pure raw milk. Can be reduced fat or whole raw milk. Raw milk has TONS of enzymes and great for any digestive problems. Best to also choose raw milk from grass-fed cows only. Thanks & God Bless!

Hi Charlotte,

Zinc carnosine was recently brought to my attention for gastric problems. The combination of these two ingredients supposedly works well for healing the stomach, and a few other things,

http://www.naturalmedicinejournal.com/journal/2013-11/nutrient-profile-zinc-carnosine

I hope this may bring some relief to you. Best wishes!

I have goats and they have to be getting all their vitamins and minerals for their milk to be sweet and tasty. Why would we think they are any different from us?
Anyway, their milk hasn't cured me. I always test negative for H pylori. Another Dr I read today insisted it was campylobacter pylori. Anyway I take oregano oil for anti parasite and I think that is what scares off the pylori bacterias. It's pretty potent stuff.

When I was only 16, I was in hte hospital with 3 bleeding ulcers. I learned I have to much acid in my system. My husband on the other hand did not have enough.

The easiest test is the Apple Cider Vinegar. Thru much research & reading we found that he had great releif with this, as for my it made me much sicker. Hope you find your answer & it helps you.

My question for all you people with ulcers and have been helped by ACV. Doesn't it kill your stomach?? I know ACV is considered allakine in the body but it sure FEELS like acid going down. Didn't you have pain??

When I first took ACV I felt the burn. I took 1 tablespoon. I decided to try it again at another time but I decided to try to take two tablespoons and sure enough it did the trick. I also eat red delicious apples to help my stomach.

I always had a sensitive stomach, food intolerances, diarrhea after meal times and never could eat that much so I was always underweight.

Just for awhile I tried some of the remedies recomended by people here in earth clinic and I got so much better and I'm actually gaining weight but along with it one of the things I experienced myself and was really helpful specially with my upset stomach and many other gastrointestinal issues was " yogurt ".

I'm not really tolerated with dairy products but yogurt makes me feel good about my whole intestinal tracts.

I add some spoons of fresh and sweet yogurt to a glass and mix it with water and stir it ( better not to be too diluted ) , add a little salt to it to make it tasty and take it 2/3 times daily, it works both on empty stomach or when I'm full , hope it helps somebody.

Cheers.

I developed an ulcer from daily aspirin and Plavix use. I've been on various PPI drugs for months with little success. I decided to try cabbage juice. Blended about 24oz in the morning and split it into 3 or 4 glasses consumed throughout the day. After about 10 days I'm feeling much better. It seems that the cabbage juice did the trick. I'm not 100% there yet but getting there.

One whole cabbage chopped and blended with water, then through a strainer (this part is a little time consuming). Fill 2 big glasses and drink 1/2 glass 4 times a day. 1st 1/2 glass before breakfast, last 1/2 glass a couple hours after dinner. Also, I roll around on the living room floor to get the juice to swish around.

Dear Carmel, I may be way off base, but this sounds very much like pain that our family has had that turns out to be appendicitis. My husband had his out when he was 22. He would get this awful pain in the belly, sometimes in response to what he ate. The pain from appendicitis can by atypical--that is, pain elsewhere than where the appendix is. It can be in the back or on the left, or in the middle.

Appendicitis does NOT mean you have to have it out. It MAY mean you need to have it out. But, appendicitis is "inflammation of the appendix. " If you can get rid of the inflammation, you are fine. But if it is infected or going to rupture, you need it out. (The question is, how to know the difference!)

My teenage son has had pain near the belly button that I was sure was appendicitis. We took him to the Dr. who said it wasn't. (Same thing happened to me - I saw my OB and a regular doctor when I had attacks. They said it wasn't appendicitis. Finally, I just went to the ER and had it out. In hindsight, I would have tried other things first.)

So, we treated my son at home. He had a few attacks and responded well to home treatment. He actually hasn't had an attack in a couple of years.

Rachel Weaver, in her book, Be Your Own Doctor, has some things she does to avoid surgery for appendicitis. She says that it is important to make sure constipation is not the problem. She has an article online about appendicitis:

http://www.drmomsherbs.com/2011/05/14/appendicitis/

Anyway, when my son had an attack, I would immediately give him charcoal tablets - maybe 4 or more. I would put a large charcoal poultice over his belly. We would also rub lobelia oil on his belly to relax it. I never did give him an enema, but apparently, in the 50's if you went to the ER with suspected appendicitis, they gave you an enema. If your pain went away, they sent you home.

All this to say, I would try activated charcoal for your pain. It is amazing for gut problems even if they aren't appendicitis. You can take 1 t. - 1 T. in an 8 oz glass of water when you have the pain. Or you can take the tablets 4-6 with plenty of water. Charcoal can be constipating if you don't get enough water. Sounds like constipation is not related to you pain, though.

Also, if you can get some lobelia oil to massage into your belly, or make a charcoal or castor oil poultice (earth clinic talks about how to do these things) you may find relief. I have found great relief with castor oil poultices for gall bladder pain when I have had it.

If you start to run a fever with this pain, or can't get the pain under control in a few hours, personally, I would go to the ER. I am not quick to run to doctors, but a ruptured appendix, can of course, be fatal.

If you have an ulcer, I believe that cayenne can heal it. (Lalitha Thomas has a story in her book, "Ten Essential Herbs" about someone healing an ulcer with cayenne.) Slippery Elm Bark Powder would also be good for gut pain and problems and for an ulcer. So would comfrey tea.

Hope you find relief soon. Let us know how you are doing.

~Mama to Many~

YES, CABBAGE JUICE WILL CURE ULCERS, BUT BUT BUT, IT HAS TO BE CONSUMED FRESH FRESH!! YOU CANNOT STORE IT IN THE FRIDGE OR IT LOSES ALL IT HEALING POWER WITHIN JUST A FEW MINUTES OF BEING JUICED.

Hi Rosa, I am reading an Adelle Davis book at the moment and although I have never had ulcers of any kind I can tell you what she suggests. She says that by no means should people with duodenal ulcers take baking soda as it accelerates the emptying of the stomach leaving it exposed longer to the action of acids, the same with a diet with little fats. She thinks that almost any deficiency can cause ulcers, folic acid is one of them but also all kinds of vitamins, A, B2, B6, C, E, cholin and pantothenic acid. Eggs, being very rich in cystine seem to be an important nutrient for people with such problems. You should be allowed an unrestricted diet if you want to heal quicker. Fresh citrus juices also accelerate healing. And you can eat fried foods and high protein meals. Baking soda and antiacids delay healing. Most important, she says you should learn to blow off steam! In another book I have they advise fish oil as well as gamma oryzanol and cabbage juice or else, if you don't like the taste, you can take glutamine 8,000 mg a day for 4 weeks. I hope this helps......

Since you have never had an ulcer let me tell you that an ulcer sufferer does need a restricted diet. Citrus juice and tomatoes are the worst as is fried and fatty foods. Believe me, I have an ulcer and these have triggered attacks that have brought me to my knees in pain the like you cannot imagine. Although Adele Davis meant well, many of her theories are not effective.

Garlic worked for me too. I tried several of the remedies here, and although coconut oil was somewhat helpful, none matched the effectiveness of garlic in alleviating the pain of my ulcer and allowing it to heal. I can't imagine suffering with that kind of pain for years... So glad I found this site! Thanks to you all!

I think that your post is very helpful. I am going to try the remedy. Have you completely got your ulcer healed?

Tilmer ,

Here what I am doing and this might help you....

In the morning ( Empty stomach )

2 tbsp ACV in 8 ounces of water

2 (500 mg) Mastic gum - Solarray brand.

Breakfast:

1 cup of melon ( Red , Green or cantaloupe )

3 (500 mg) L Glutamine capsules (Solgar brand)

1 500 mg Cayenne capsules (Vitamin shoppee brand)

Snack:

1/2 cup of melon.

30 Mins before lunch:

2 tbsp ACV in 8 ounces of water

Lunch:

1 medium sized backed sweet potato

3 (500 mg) L Glutamine capsules (Solgar brand)

1 500 mg Cayenne capsules (Vitamin shoppee brand)

Snack:

1/2 cup of melon.

30 Mins before dinner:

2 tbsp ACV in 8 ounces of water

Dinner:

1 medium sized backed sweet potato

3 (500 mg) L Glutamine capsules (Solgar brand)

1 500 mg Cayenne capsules (Vitamin shoppee brand)

Before going to bed:

2 (500 mg) Mastic gum - Solarray brand.

Intended to stay on this for a week and then slowly introduce proteins a little ....

Hope this helps - Pratt

Melting: I am no big fan of pharmaceuticals or doctors, but I take as much advantage I can from what they have to offer. Of course they want me taking many prescriptions meds, and not let my health improve by treating only my symptoms. It's really like Paul McCartney described in the song Tug-Of-War.

Rule-of-thumb to maintain friendly relations in the medical community is "try and meet them halfway". Give them the benefit they deserve. In your case I would have done the acid reducers for a few weeks then on to the cabbage cure. In returning to the dr say "the acid reducers pills worked real well and I read about eating cabbage and that was the icing on the cake. "

Remember, dr's have the legal clout. Acid reducing pharmaceuticals heal gastric or esophageal ulcers, cabbage does not (as according to scientific demonstration by studies and trials and approved by the FDA).

Are you talking about stomach ulcer?

The juice from fresh cabbage will heal your ulcer - I think is killing also the Helicobacter Pylori bacteria. There is at least one post on Earthclinic about how to take the juice.

Manuka honey (factor 16 ) is also good to clear the bacterial infection and heal the ulcer. You have to think of the honey as an antibiotic. Take one tsp every 2 hours (morning to night) for two weeks at least. After that reduce the quantity to one tsp, three times a day for a couple of weeks.

Your medication not working could be because you have stomach cancer. If that is the case start drinking 1. 5 to 2 liters/ day of a infusion made from equal parts of Stinging Nettle and Calendula (small sips spread throughout the day). Use one heaped tsp from each plant for 1/4 liter, infuse the plants for 3 to 4 minutes.

Ground Flax seeds cured my ulcers. When blood appears in my stool, I take 1 - 2 TBSP freshly ground flax seeds with hot water. I always take it in the morning and before dinner. The best if you take in on empty stomach.

Paul, If you've read these posts on stomach ulcers, then you know they aren't that difficult to heal. You mentioned, however, that you have fibromyalgia which indicates that you have severe gut dysbiosis and a failing immune system. You're stomach is over run by harmful bacteria, and so is your small and large intestines. First, recognize that your Doctor doesn't know what he is talking about. Second, you need to focus on healing your gut through diet change as well as taking powerful probiotics and healing foods. I highly recommend reading "Gut and Psychology Syndrom" by Dr. Natasha Campbell-Mcbride. Go to her website where there are many resources for people in your situation.) Remember "all disease begins in the Gut" - Hippocrates

As for above... google - ancient healing secrets or healing secrets of the ancients

olives, extra virgin olive oil, cayenne pepper, manuka honey, bannanas and semi-skin milk, balsamic vinegar, garlic, red onions, fruit.

Raw garlic virtually instantly cured stomach ulcer! Once I knew I had a duodenal stomach ulcer I check the net and read of many cures but none so obvious as garlic. The nausea of five weeks went away in two hours and the next morning my appetite had fully returned! Eight crushed cloves a day for eight days (on bread under humus or pesto) - miraculous!

Important news for those who suffer from ulcers: what you should know is that ulcers are caused by bacteria called h. pylori. Most doctors do not know that h. pylori lives in the stomach lining, and it does not live in the bloodstream. Therefore blood tests to detect h. pylori are useless, and a waste of your money. A breath test to detect h. pylori IS effective, most doctors do not know this test exists, and will not use the effective breath test. In the absence of a "positive test result", many doctors will fail to treat the cause.
With this in mind, please read the info from the CDC website:
http://www.cdc.gov/ulcer/myth.htm

When treated with the correct combination of two antibiotics, 98% of ulcers can be cured in two weeks or less! However, most doctors do not know or prescribe the correct antibiotics.

And then again, some individuals (like myself) do not have immunity to h. pylori and will become re-infected after a short period of time.
Which leads to the conclusion that treatments such as cabbage juice, apple cider vinegar, cayenne pepper, cloves, turmeric, etc...may very well be worth a try due to the action of either creating an environment in which h. pylori cannot live, OR boosting the immune response to the h. pylori infection.

Although the CAUSE of ulcers is now well known, effective treatment and effectively training doctors remains elusive. So then, thank you for your kind recommendations which may indeed prove just as effective as antibiotics, or MORE effective! I hope to report back to you that one or more of these natural treatments IS effective.

Yes, I can wholly agree. many individuals report sensitivity to bleached flour, also butter and dairy products. Others will have difficulty with fried foods or beer. But the ulcer is already there- the flour merely sets off the bleeding and irritation. Avoiding the target food is by far the best strategy, and this is an excellent point of fact... As far as my own recent experiment with cayenne pepper capsules, 450 mg, one every other day(after the initial burn)there is no question in my case that relief from reflex and pain was obtained. The active ingredient in cayenne being capsaicin, and is indeed medically documented to shrink and destroy cancer cells (among other benefits)including prostate and lung cancer cells, yes folks it's a fact. Many doctors have been treating reflux with Nexium or Prilosec but this shuts down your digestive system and overloads the kidneys. This is treating the symptoms, not the actual cause. It's far better to restore normal digestive function than to shut off the acid in your stomach. Once again thanks to all who have shared experiences, this has been most helpful.

I was prescribed enzymes and - payed dearly. As Dan said: STAY AWAY FROM ENZYMES! - As long as you have any damage in your digestive system.

Hi Aching Angel, Cabbage juice will help you for your ulcers. But you have to change your life style and eating habits at least till you are cured of the ulcers. You say that you are not constipated but at the same time you pass lot of wind which indicates that the system is not cleaned up. Avoid sugar, fried things and you can take sodium bi carbonate 1/4 tea spoon in water 30--45 mts after the meals. Good Luck.

Baldev

I am very interested in the cabbage remedy having found out I have an ulcer which I think has been building up for a long time. Mine is as a result of taking ibuprofen, pain killers and other medication over a long period of time.

My doctor gave me antacid tablets but when I took one I had a blinding migraine that went on for twelve hours and was worse than the original stomach pain. I have researched a lot about this and it seems that even if you do take these antacids it does not cure or remove the ulcer it just temporarily masks the pain in the hope it does not return. Hardly worth having an awful migraine over.

I have decided to do the following regime for at least a month, it will vary a little from day to day but something along these lines. I began yesterday:
* 3 or 4 servings raw cabbage juice
* sometimes juice of a raw potato
* approximately 2 or 3 bananas a day (some say it helps the lining of the stomach others say it is to help kill the bacteria, but mine is due to pain killers so this does not match)
* once a day cayenne pepper in warm water
* several times a day long glass of plain water
* several times a day plain non sugar yoghurt
* 3 times a day glutamine capsules (750 mg x 2)
* 3000 mg vitamin c a day
* very good multi vitamin every day to replace the nutritions that leak through the gut

My problems stem from having had a lot of prior problems with sinus - headaches - ears, and all the doctor ever did was give me lots of antibiotics, painkillers and steroids which led to the ulcer and left me still with the original problem. What did help with the sinus and headaches was lots of allicin from garlic and vitamin c. I also believe that my ears will be unblocked when the gut and ulcer is sorted.

BEWARE some suggest you take raw garlic cloves. I tried this and was violently ill for a week. My stomach was in a right mess from it too. Would love to swap thoughts with others please. rychhmo(at )aol [dot} com.

Hello Charlotte, On the ulcer issue, sounds like you've gone down a frustrating road. I've had great success in dealing with ulcers with a three part program plus diet. First on diet; no coffee including de caff. No cokes or fruit juices that are high in acid such as orange juice. Tomatoes are off also. The no acid diet must be adhered to for at least two months. Then the supplement part: Kill the infection (most ulcers have an underlying infection) with Colloidal Silver ...I take two tablespoons on empty stomach twice daily, especially good at night before bedtime. Fifteen min later take DGL tablets (licorice extract) and then fifteen minutes later a quarter cup of high quality aloe vera drink. That for two months. I have an MD friend who used to make fun of all my remedies but after her frustrating attempt to rid herself of a tenacious stomach ulcer, she tried above formula and was successful in healing. Pretty funny as she went from making fun of me to now wanting me to go to an herbal school and become an herbal doc.

I agree with you about God healing you. I'm so happy for you. People need to put God first and it is okay to do research because God give us the wisdom and the medicine to help us. the pharmaceutical don't care. It is all about money. I'm praying for my miracle to.

How much bismuth do you consume ?

Hi Ria, Where was your discomfort? Also, I find that a pinch of cayenne is hot already .. you tolerated a tsp of cayenne plus turmeric in one sitting? Or did you sip throughout the day?

I've got several ulcers and have been taking acv, slippery elm, dgl, marshmallow root, & much other natural stuff for it. Doing fine until this past weekend. All of a sudden I've gotten much worse. Now I've started having diarrhea and the dr says it's due to the acid. What can I do? I don't want to take antacids--beside being drugs, that I try to avoid, they give me side effects of insomnia and terrible leg cramps. I'm at my wits end. It seems chamomile calms the belly, but now the I'm spending too much time in the restroom while I should be working. Not good. The only change over the weekend was that I ran out of my probiotic and had only yogurt (natural, homemade) and a product called 'gut shots'.

How do I use Cayenne pepper and honey to cure stomach ulcer?

EC: Sounds like Pepper33 used 1/2 teaspoon of cayenne mixed in honey and taken with food each night.

Thought I was having a heart attack but, after endoscopy, they say I have gastritis & gastric ulcer & stomach polyp & hiatal hernia. The dr put me on protonix, which I am resistant to try but will if I have to. So, I've started 1 tbs Apple Cider Vinegar in juice 3x per day. I also take a dg licorice tablet several times per day. What else should I do? I can reactivate my dairy kefir grains and drink that, sorta got away from it recently.

My main issue is ibs-d and I rarely feel heartburn or reflux, but get spasms where the hernia is. Could the ulcer make my ibsd worse? The Apple Cider Vinegar sure does, so now I'm in a catch 22 position--take the Apple Cider Vinegar and fix the ulcer or don't and control the diarrhea.

Also, I wonder if I just don't recognize the ulcer/hernia pain. I've always just ignored pain and discomfort. But, I'll do what I must to avoid protonix. Thanks.

Vitamin C to cure Ulcers.

Hi, I'm 47, male got a really painful ulcer about 3 months ago. Probably due to being a strong coffee lover and a low carb diet.

After looking at earth clinic, I tried everything;

Raw cabbage juice; did this for 3 days, one cabbage a day, horrible but seemed to work, should have done it for longer, pain came right back after 7 days, did not try again- 'I have a life'

Bananas were good to eat, and helped the pain.

Cayenne pepper; 4 gramms /day great relief but did not cure.

Licorice; from pharmacist, 4 tea.spoons/day; great relief but only for a few hours, worried about male hormone disruption

L-Glutamine (cabbage extract); tried 4 grams/day but, I think too weak compared with the real cabbage, no relief noticed.

Then found out about Vit C that kills helicobacter pylori; 4 grams in the morning, 4 in the evening for one week; Definately works, cured -after one week, now I take about 4 grams/day, when I remember. After much research- I don't believe that Vit C is bad for you in these doses.

There isn't anything exists that kills h.pylori. It can be made dormant, inactive, under control by various remedies but not killed. And the role of this bacteria in human bodies is unknown since pretty much 50% of population has it. So focus on it with that in mind. Essential oils is another good remedy. I had vitamin C via IV daily for two weeks along with other herbal treatments, such as goldenseal tincture plus much more. The symptoms were gone, I felt great, my stomach had healed, but the bacteria is still there. I do maintenance courses twice a year with various supplements to keep it under control. And of course diet. 100% sugar free diet is not possible since fruits contain sugar.but had to eliminate grapes and honeydew they always start the trouble. And sweet white wine which I love.

E: From what I know on the subject, there are 2 or 3 substances that will kill any or every pathogen including H Pylori. MMS aka Chlorine Dioxide is known to kill about 99% pathogens. Ozone (O3) kills 99.9% pathogens. Ozonized Colloidal Silver kills 100% pathogens.

HI U TIMH, , , , , , , fellow , you just pissed in the wind. You need expound on this subject so we can partake and use what you just said. What you just said is deep and went over my head. Slow down and explain..... because it is needed for a bunch of us with ails.

Love you like a brother. ====ORH======

-ORH- The numbers part of my estimate are of course subject to a certain degree of error, but generally speaking correct. One must do their own research of course, but for these antibiotics, it's all about application.

MMS must be used in small doses and gradually increased for maximum benefit. Ozone is best given I.V. but that requires money and professional administration. Colloidal Silver and Hydrogen Peroxide are each very good but combined are much more powerful. Ozonated Colloidal Silver, I personally prefer over H2O2/Silver, as it goes down much better orally.

From my personal experience, the use of these natural antibiotics have been, in the last few yrs of my severe condition, invaluable. I simply would not be alive now typing this post without them.

THANKS TIMH FOR RESPONDING, as I've told you before, I am a reader, but not disciplined. I have all the tools to do almost all of the things you speak.

You mentioned Ozone IV and I go to Atlanta next week and get a shot in the hip and on to St George Island for Vitamin D 3. I can do a ozone sauna or an anal insufflation which Dr. Shallenberger says works just as well as an IV.

I have the silver pulse sorta that will cleanse your blood and also make colloidal silver. I do H2O2 via my nebulizer, but did Bill Munro's thing for several years. The nebulizer just make more sense.

You mentioned ozonated colloidal silver. I do ozonated water so I dang sure can do silver. Explain why please. I also do Transfer Point's Beta 1,3D Glucan to boost my immune system. Some folks have beaten cancer with this product alone.

I really appreciated Mama's contribution to good heath with her latest post. That's about the best I have read. Just hope folks paid attention. She summed it all up in short order. Me, I'd have to tell a dozen stories and go around the watermelon. She was succinct and to the point.

Timh, if you don't mind........ you know my tools. Tell me what you would do if you were in my shoes. Make this a preventive thing and not a solution to my blood cancer, because like I say, my blood work is outstanding. My Occublont and DNA tests say otherwise.

Cancer Tudor is a proponent of MMS also and I made ClO2 for 40 years in the paper industry. It was a bleach that did not destroy the wood fiber like Chlorine or Hypochlorite did.

I thank you for you counsel and I'm sure there are some other old patoots that will also benefit .

YOUR BUDDY=======ORH=========

I am observing drinking warm water (boiled and cooled) is enhancing my stomach ulcer symptoms. Am I wrong in stating this? Do not know, those who have experienced same may post their comments. The experts may advise me more on this.

Hpylori, "enhancing" means what: making the symptoms better or worse?

Enhance means :-My observation of warm water was increases burning sensation of the upper stomach-bottom of ribs. I am not sure is it because of drinking hot water?

I have been plagued with duodenal ulcers since 2009. I have been tested for H pylori by several different methods and always test negative. I was on H2 inhibitor s until my last hospitalization where I needed 5 pints of blood and was still a little anemic from ulcer blood loss. 3.3 cm X 2.2 cm. Had 3 clamps installed. They put me on PPI for two weeks. It's been two years and I can't get off of them. Everytime I try I get nausea/vomiting. The rub is that not only do I need that stomach acid to digest but PPI s also destroy mitochondria, causing chronic fatigue. I can't get back to work like this. I have very little endurance and get out of breath when I have to do my farmwork or housework. Mitochondria are our energy powerhouse. I can't function normally like this. I can't walk any distance. I have severe arthritis. PPI s are doing this. I'm on all nutrients I can think of to help. Green tea has epicatechins as does Chocolate which helps build mitochondria. I'm taking a teaspoon of green tea a day. But I don't know if it can build mitochondria fast enough to counter it's breakdown from PPI s . I saw a study on rats given cysteine and vitamin B6 and it helped prevent alcohol induced ulcers. Since that's it my ulcer source, I don't know if it's helping. I have cut down to half a PPI a day for a few weeks and tried to cut down to 1/4 a pill yesterday and was incapacitated with pain and nausea and exhaustion. I will switch to NAC and see if it works any better. This is one stubborn ulcer, and not being caused by NSAIDs or alcohol or h pylori. Stress is the only thing left. But I can't help being upset over not being able to function.

Try Zantac plus green smoothie containing lots of Chlorella and/or DGL Allantoin for the ulcers.

For Mitochondria and energy restoration try PQQ and Quercetin.

Hello, You can try a baking soda with fresh lemon juice in a glass water.

The baking soda prevents the gas build up and boosting. My FIL used it all the time for indigestion and boosting. I use it occasionally with my H Pylori and ulcer. What helps me most so far has been a tablespoon of organic coconut oil.

Do you have any brand for the Coconut oil?

I finish a treatment of two antibiotics for H Pylori, but I'm having a lot of pain nausea and dizziness, I think I have ulcers please let me know more about Coconut oil please.

Mix 1 tsp of ACV with 1/2 tsp of Baking Soda then add a glass of water. This is called Ted's Alkalizing formula. Drink 20 mins after meal or in empty stomach. This is the way to take ACV. To heal Take Carrot Juice and Milk Kefir. Good Health

How to get rid of stomach ulcers quickly and permanently?