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Potassium

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Posted by Arn (Kenmore, Wa.) on 09/15/2021 20 posts
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A cure for sleep apnea, and maybe for snoring, bed-wetting, crib death:

Making my rounds at work one morning I came across a cook sitting in a chair, slouched and looking like death warmed over. I asked if she was OK.

She said, "I have apnea, sleep with a machine, it woke me 150 times last night."

I said, "Oh yeah, I used to have apnea." She was incredulous. Used to???

So I told her my story. As a teen I had sleep apnea a couple of times a night. But unlike most, I would wake up during each bout. I would be totally paralyzed, even my breathing muscles. I would struggle until I was about to pass out. Then suddenly I would take a big breath, like somebody drowning.

One day I took a potassium pill, and that night the apnea was gone. A couple of years later I had a bad fever, which causes you to lose potassium, and the apnea came back. I took another potassium and it was gone. Now I take potassium now and then as a preventative.

The secret here is that potassium, along with magnesium, help to operate our autonomic muscle system, the ones we don't have to think about. These muscles keep our jaw shut, our posture straight, and keep us breathing while we sleep. And that's why potassium may help with snoring, bed-wetting, even crib death. If you eat lots of fresh fruits and veggies you probably get plenty of potassium. But most of us eat too much sugar and salt, which cause us to excrete potassium.

To make a short story long, next morning she was there again, still looking like death warmed over. She said, "I didn't sleep a wink again, but this time for another reason. I took a potassium pill before bed, and in the next 6 hours I peed away 8 pounds! " This lady had ankles as big as my thighs, - edema, and the potassium was making her lose that water.

Part b:

We had a secretary in our office that liked to run marathons. You could always when she ran a race because for the next week she would slouch and look exhausted. She overheard me tell someone about the cook, and she asked if potassium might help her. I told her it couldn't hurt.

That weekend I filled in for the night shift guy. Middle of the night I walked past the darkened office, and heard a high speed ticking sound. In the back of the office there was a single task light on, and this secretary, furiously typing about 500 words a minute. "What are you doing here?" I asked.

Her reply, "I took 2 of those pills, and now I have so much energy I don't know what to do with it."

"Cut back on the dose! " I said. Consequently her recovery time from marathons went from 1 week to 1 day.

Replied by Ariel
(Buenos Aires)
09/23/2021

What doses of potassium are you taking a day?

Replied by Mary
(Auckland)
09/23/2021

Where can you buy potassium? There is a little in my Vit D but I haven't been able to find it by itself.

Replied by Arn
(Kenmore, Wa.)
11/01/2021
20 posts

Potassium. Sorry, I don't read my old posts often, didn't see the responses on my two posts asking for more info.

Potassium is pretty generic, and can be found in most any vitamin section of most any store. Tablets are limited to 99mg each. Start with 1, but I often pop 4 0r 5.

Bananas have about half the potassium they used to have. An apple a day used to do it, but not anymore. Farmed food in the stores is depleted. Fresh ORGANIC fruits and veggies are the best way to get potassium and magnesium.

antoine
(Texas)
01/22/2024

Hello Arn,

What form of potassium do you use? chloride, gluconate, citrate, bicarbonate etc.?

Would you please share the brand(s) you use?

Thank you

Hwkmn05
(Nh)
05/08/2024
109 posts
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Chloride can be rough on the stomach lining and tastes horrible. I take Citrate in water daily with great success. Pills of 99mg can be an adequate dose, however the powder is high dose of 448mg per 1/4 tsp.


Potassium
Posted by Arn (Kenmore, Wa.) on 05/20/2021 20 posts
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Instant fix for sleep apnea in most cases

The basic problem is in your autonomic muscles, the ones that work without you having to think about them. When they don't work right you might have a slack jaw, limp wrists, slouching problem, snoring, bedwetting, edema, and apnea.

Minerals are the answer, but particularly potassium and magnesium. We eat mass quantities of salt and sugar, both of which make you excrete potassium. The little bit you get in a banana isn't enough.

My apnea stopped with a single potassium pill. It's a dirt-cheap supplement, won't hurt and will probably help. You might have to up the dosage for several days to get the sodium/potassium back in balance.

Replied by Belinda
(Australia - WA)
09/24/2021

Thank you for this helpful information. What brand of potassium and dosage? The same for magnesium as well, please.

Replied by Greta
(Toronto, Canada)
10/14/2021

I want my mother to try the potassium for sleep apnea. There are a few types of potassium at the health store, which one is the best to use? Thanks


Sleep Apnea and A Fib

Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn) on 11/09/2016

HI ALL,,,,,,,, if it's not one thing then its another. My sleep doctor gave me my test results and it was not good. When I sleep on my side then I stop breathing 72 times every hour. No wonder I am not rested on waking and why I wake every few hours. When my O2 gets low then A Fib set in.

I go back and they will fit me with various breathing aids and see which one I need to not get into this state. Again, my advice to all is not to get old. Control what health problems that you can because those that you can't control will make your life about as interesting as you can stand.

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Replied by Yorkshire Pudding
(Helena, Mt)
01/25/2018

Hello there! Sleep Apnea with A-Fib is a lot to deal with! I tried a remedy posted here at EC by Ron (Tavernier, Fl) on 12/27/2014:

He said he cured his A-Fib using bentonite clay and probiotics, suggesting the problem lies in the gut with toxicity. I have not been officially diagnosed with A-Fib, but something was wrong and since it runs in my family I knew I should take the symptoms seriously, so I tried Ron's remedy in the form of Dr. Schulz's #2 Formula (LOL! ) which also contains charcoal, psyllium, and more. The symptoms subsided for me! Between all 3 ingredients I have felt better... Ron was very persistent to get the word out, so you may want to try this remedy...Good luck!

Replied by Yorkshire Pudding
(Helena, Mt)
01/27/2018

Hi again....I wanted to list ingredients in Dr. Schulz's Formula, which does contain pharmaceutical grade bentonite clay, which I neglected to include above. The powder also contains flax seed, psyllium seed, apple pectin, activated willow charcoal, marshmallow root, slippery elm bark. peppermint leaf. and cayenne pepper blend. It is intended to cleanse and heal the gut, along with his formula #1. I highly recommend both! I mix it with purified water and a tiny bit of juice added for taste. I hope this helps someone!


Sleep Apnea Feedback

Posted by Jean (Louisville, Ky) on 03/09/2010 27 posts

I have a son with severe sleep apnea. I found some information on the internet that suggests a dental splint could help with sleep apnea.

Another possibility is checking out with a chiropractor about upper curvature of the spine that may be interfering with the airway space. The information came from a dentist in Washington.

Sleep apnea is a very tough condition to figure out. My son cannot tolerate a cpap machine which is the usual "cure."
Good luck to all, I hope we can get more posts on this site. I have an appointment with a chiropractor about my son's condition. I will post if I find out more.

Replied by Gary
(Wauchope, Nsw Australia)
03/21/2010

Hi yes I have suffered with this complaint for some time now, I tried using a CPAP machine for a while but it kept waking me over the course of the night so I stopped using it. I heard how this bloke was using a tennis ball tied to the inside of a T-shirt and wears it to bed, the T-shirt with the ball tied in place stops you from sleeping on your back so you have to roll to the side as this automatically allows your gut or stomach to roll away from the diaphrame and allow you to breath automaticly. But now after reading about IBT(inclined bed therapy) I seem to be having more of a restfull sleep and on my back as the incline of the bed draws the gut away from the diaphrame again allowing automatic sleep.

Also I'm trying to lose weight using Rhodiola root and walking for a least one hour a day usually at night as there are less cars and trucks around and your not breathing in as many exhaust fumes as in the day time.

Kind regards Gary


Tape Mouth

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Posted by Twirled Piece (Laguna Beach, Ca) on 10/14/2011
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For years I suffered from sleep apnea, waking out of breath with dry mouth and dehydration almost every night. Chin straps and breathing strips only provided partial success. I found complete relief by taping my mouth shut with a strip of first aid paper tape. I cover it completely and wake up feeling refreshed. Despite mild sinus congestion it feels like I'm getting more oxygen. Three months of taping and I even have less fatigue! Amazing.

Replied by Francisca
(Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France)
10/15/2011

Interesting, although I don't suffer from sleep apnea I have a very dry mouth during the night and I had thought of taping it. What a coincidence to hear from someone else who does it.... It won't be too comfortable though.... but then I got so used to sleeping with ear plugs that I can't sleep without them anymore, so it is maybe the same thing for the tape.

Replied by Yeshua
(Anchorage, Alaska, Usa)
01/19/2012

@ Twirled Piece from Laguna Beach, Ca

AND

@ Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France

OMG - Wow! How do you know you won't die? What if you develop sinus congestion overnight and have no open nasal passage to breathe with? Tell me more, please!

Thanks!

Replied by Tristan08
(Portland, Oregon)
12/15/2014

I cannot remember exactly what age when I started snoring loudly but I think it was in high school. I was informed by a male cousin that I kept him awake with my snoring and grinding teeth. I outgrew the teeth grinding but the snoring worsened as I grew older. A colleague told me to consult a doctor because I may have sleep apnea. But I never did.

I tried Googling for the causes and symptoms of sleep apnea and I am convinced that I have them. I want to try the various remedies for sleep apnea being recommended here in EC and I'll start with mouth taping. Aside from congestion, is there other health risk for mouth taping?

Replied by Steve
(Kansas)
08/10/2015
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I have been using 2" wide medium adhesive tape for my sleep apnea for about 7 years. I used a cpap for about 3 years before that. It took a little getting used to, but after a few weeks, I found it was better than the CPAP for me. I would tend to get congestion with the CPAP often when I used it and sometimes I get congestion while using the tape, but I just remove the tape just like I removed the cpap when I got to congestive with it.

Replied by Michele
(Dallas, Ga)
03/03/2017
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Thank you for your post on this. I read and tried it, and after a month of waking up at approximately 2:30 am and not being able to go back to sleep, I slept until my alarm woke me up this morning. Amazing!!!
I had used a CPAP machine in the past, but never had good results with it.
Thanks again!

Replied by Sedaray
(Los Angeles, California)
09/24/2021
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You know those peel-off address labels you get from charities? They're perfect. The smaller ones I need two. I curl my lips in so there's minimum contact with them. I find the lower part loosens first (drool? nasal breath?) so I position so lower has more contact.


Throat Strengthening, Mouth Guard

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Posted by Gee Man (Canada) on 02/04/2022
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I have to say that all I hear is that supplements will help but I don't believe this. How can obstructive sleep apnea be cured with supplements? it is a physical issue the throat collapsing on itself when unconscious.

You either do exercises to strengthen the throat tissue or a second possibility that over time your teeth and jaw clenching at night has caused your teeth to close tight at night and so the throat aperture to be less open when asleep.

Use a mouth guard to keep your teeth apart 5mm and you should get more oxygen during sleep reducing the oxygen requirements for the body's organs and so a lessening n blood pressure also and no snoring.

just some out of the box thinking.


Vitamin C

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Posted by Mysticgardener (Plain City, Ohio Usa) on 05/05/2011

Seven years ago I was diagnosed with severe obstructive sleep apnea. I began using the C-pap machine, along with supplemental oxygen. One year ago I went back to the sleep lab for a re-study and was told I no longer had sleep apnea! I did not believe it and went back for a second night. Again, I was told I did not have sleep apnea! When I told my sleep doctor that I thought sleep apnea was not curable, he just shrugged his shoulders! It was a mystery to him....... Maybe. Since then, I have not used my machine because I can no longer get replacement masks. At first I was very fearful to not use it but I have gotten along fine.

I have 2 siblings with sleep apnea that have asked me what I did to cure it and I have thought and wondered about it a lot. I have finally come to the conclusion that increasing the amount of Vitamin C I take cured me. Vitamin C is a natural antihistamine and antitoxin. Of course there is no way for me to know for sure, it is just my best guess on what has cured me. I take about 3000 mg, spread throughout the day, and if I get up at night to use the bathroom, I take another one. I wanted to share this information for all the people who are out there suffering and even in danger of dying in their sleep due to this problem.

Many people have no insurance and cannot afford the study or the machine. I also take selenium, garlic and hawthorne berry on a regular basis, but I really think it is the Vitamin C. I also practice oil pulling from time to time. Also, I sleep with the head of my bed raised up a few inches on bricks and I sleep with 2 or 3 feather pillows. Occasionally I will wake with a headache and will have an irritated, raw feeling in my sinuses. That tells me I need to up my Vitamin C.

Another tip is that any good essential oil dabbed on your body somewhere, (use a tiny amount) will increase the oxygen levels in your blood. Your oxygen levels drop as you struggle to breathe if you have sleep apnea. I proved this to myself when the doctor wanted to keep me on supplemental oxygen even though I no longer needed C-pap. I used an essential oil (don't overdo it) before I went in for a blood oxygen saturation test and my levels were fine!

Replied by Diamond
(Salisbury, Ma.usa)
05/06/2011

Thank you so very much for that info. I needed that so much, I have problems sleeping, my 02 is very low with problems breathing. God bless

Replied by Steve
(Niwot, Co)
06/14/2011

(an article I found on a natural treatment)

Sleep apnea is one of the most common sleep disturbance problems in America. It ruins the sleep of an estimated 25 million Americans on a regular basis. The condition prevents the sleeper from entering REM and Delta sleep causing them to become anxious, cantankerous and tired during the day. There are very serious health consequences of prolonged sleep deprivation. Additionally, due to the nature of the condition, it causes blood oxygen levels to be lower than normal for very prolonged periods of time. This is damaging to the brain and heart in particular.

Presently, there are several ways in which the problem is addressed. Initially, the patient is told to lose weight, drink less alcohol and quit smoking. With just a smidgen of insight into human nature, anyone can figure out how unsuccessful this approach will be. Beyond that, surgery is offered to reduce obstruction in the inhalation pathway. This has provided some success, but the procedure is painful and often provides no relief. The last option is for the patient to purchase a CPAP device. This is a forced air mask, worn during sleep, that insures proper inhalation. Most patients are not willing to go to this expense or to endure this level of machinery and the resultant nasal irritation.

What has continued to plague the appropriate treatment of this condition is that none of the "solutions" address the actual cause of the problem. Being over-weight does not cause this problem, smoking does not cause this problem, sleeping on ones back does not cause this problem. So what then, does cause the problem?

Cause of the condition:

When we start to fall asleep, we move from stage one (drowsiness) into stage two sleep. Stage two sleep is the transition stage before entering REM (rapid eye movement) sleep. REM sleep is where we dream. Dreaming is critical to a good nights sleep. When we enter stage two sleep in preparation for dreaming, muscular activity is inhibited. It is called "reduction of muscle tonus". This is a function that occurs primarily to keep the dreamer from physically acting out the movements of their dreams since the part of the brain that controls muscular movement cannot tell the difference between you dreaming of walking down stairs and you actually walking down stairs. This muscular inhibition is absolutely necessary. It is accomplished by suppressing the flow of signals from the brain along the spinal cord. Unfortunately, as we age, a couple of problems develop.

The first problem is that the muscles of the soft palate in your mouth become weaker. This allows the soft palate to sag. This is not particularly unusual since most people are not professional vocalists and don't exercise their soft palate. As we age and levels of HGH drop, many muscles in our body atrophy to a lower level of capability.

The second problem is that the communication between the diaphragm and the brain becomes somewhat obstructed. The nerves that reach the diaphragm emanate from the spinal column at C3, C4 and C5. These are cervical vertebrate that are right at the insertion of the upper trapezius muscles. The upper trapezius muscles are the most common expression of stress and tension in humans. This tension reduces the intervertebral foramen from which the nerves emanate and restricts the nervous flow along the root of the nerve through direct restriction. Unfortunately, a large amount of this tension is residual and does not dissipate when the subject enters stage two sleep.

The result of this is that upon entering stage two sleep, the muscle tonus holding the soft palate out of the air-way is reduced. This allows the soft palate to sag into the airway. While this is happening, the same inhibition of muscle tonus is attenuating (reducing) the signals to the diaphragm on an already obstructed communication channel. The result is that our breathing becomes shallower and shallower due to insufficient signal strength to the diaphragmatic muscles.

As our breathing becomes shallower, the blood oxygen level drops. In a young and healthy individual, this would elicit stronger and deeper breathing from the control system that regulates these activities. In an older individual with restricted nervous flow to the diaphragmatic muscles, there is no residual ability to increase for the purpose of offsetting the inhibition caused by stage two sleep entry and restricted nervous flow due to muscular tension in the neck region. Consequently, the respirations reduce in intensity and the blood oxygenation drops.

The blood oxygen level drops and the normal proportional control loop is un-able to maintain the desired level. This is where the safety back-up system comes in. When the blood oxygen level gets low enough and the carbon dioxide level gets high enough, the brain intervenes and causes the body to make a large and immediate inhalation. This causes a large pressure differential in the pharynx and literally sucks the sagging-soft palate into the airway. This obstructs the flow and causes a loud "SNORT" awakening the subject. Most times, the subject is not fully awakened and thus isn't aware that this is even happening. They just return to stage 1 sleep.

Upon awakening or return to stage 1 sleep, the inhibition causing the reduction of muscle tonus for entry into stage two sleep is released and respiration begins again in a somewhat normal manner. As the subject starts to drift off to sleep again, they move into stage two, the muscle tonus drops, the soft palate sags, the signal to the diaphragm diminish and the cycle repeats. The resulting snorting awakenings typically occur every minute or so.

The Solution:

So you see, the problem is not the sagging soft palate. The problem is not the rapid inhalation that sucks your soft palate into the airway. The problem is the reduced ability of the signal from your brain to produce sufficient breathing amplitude from your diaphragm. If your breathing was sufficiently deep enough, then you would not make a rapid inhalation, suck your soft palate into the airway and snort; disturbing your sleep.

The appropriate solution is not to cut flesh from your pharynx or to use heavy equipment to force air into your lungs. The appropriate intervention is to accentuate the ability of the brain to communicate with the diaphragm so that you breathe deeply and steadily.

Now that we have accurately characterized the problem, the solution becomes obvious. Sure it is beneficial to strengthen the muscles of the soft palate. Yes it is advantageous to reduce muscular tension in the neck. Both of these things will make a noticeable improvement in the condition. However; the most dramatic impact can be made by the administration of just a few common herbs.

Lobellia is used in small doses as a respiratory stimulant. In larger doses, it has the opposite effect. This herb, when taken before bed, can actually increase the quiescent level of respiration sufficiently so as to avert the dangerous drop in blood oxygen level that occurs upon muscular inhibition. It can maintain deep steady breathing through the stage 2 sleep period. Since it can have some un-settling effect on the stomach, it should be used in conjunction with Meadowsweet to eliminate any slight nauseous feeling.

Thyme has traditionally been used to enhance pleural activity and makes an excellent contribution to maintaining sufficient respiratory amplitude. To round out the combination, Chamomile aids the subject in relaxing and Cramp Bark helps the upper trapezius muscles to relax.

This bouquet of herbs relaxes muscles that restrict nervous flow, increases drowsiness, enhances respiration and protects the stomach lining. It represents a wholistic natural solution to sleep apnea. It is non-habit forming and no-preconditioning is required. This herbal combination is the essence of Sleep Apnea Relief available from Nature's Rite.Utilizing a natural approach to solving the sleep apnea problem can be liberating and rewarding. You may very well avoid surgery or CPAP use.

Sherry
(Tennessee)
11/24/2021

Just curious if this works if you have insomnia with sleep apnea? They have told me it's a possibility.

Replied by Blazicekj
(Prague, Czech Republic)
10/16/2011

Hello there. I just wanted to share my thoughts on this. About 4 months ago, I started having trouble breathing while falling asleep. I have since talked to my doctor about this and went to see about 3 other specialists (heart, lungs... ), who could not explain it. So I gave up on that matter. The thing is, although I wasn't checked for sleep apnea, I don't think that's my problem. It only happens to me when falling asleep and feels like gradually stopping to breathe, but not caring about it until I stop almost entirely. It gets worse when I eat something heavier in the evening. When I sleep, I seem to breathe just fine. It may be more likely that it's simply some sort of neurological reaction to my lifestyle.

Anyway, I have found out, that when I drink a multivitamin, my problems seem to dissapear. Doctors laughed me out with that and told me it's a placebo effect. I have since tried the vitamins separately, and although I haven't yet settled on a single vitamin, C doesn't seem to help by itself. My guess is B. If it was a psychological / neuro problem, B, from what I know about vitamins, would be logical.

Now I was never a much of a believer in any sort of medicine... Natural or prescription based. I have felt that most pills simply don't help me that much and if I think I can get through any illness without them, I do. But in the last few years, I have actually found, that vitamins and some natural remedies do in fact affect me. Not much, but if nothing else they definitely work pretty well as a prevention. I have always suffered from common colds and various other minor diseases, but I have not had a single problem for last two years in that regard. As to why, beats me. I think I am a pretty rational person. 22yrs old, studiyng robotics and cybernetics, strong believer in science. It however seems only logical to fight ilnesses by supporting natural immunity (I have been diagnosed with minor cell imunity deficiency inherited from my mother in that regard) instead of surpressing the symptoms, which is what most pills do.

Anyway, just my two cents worth of experience. I will try some of the suggested herbs as well and see what it does.

Replied by Yeshua
(Anchorage, Alaska, Usa)
01/19/2012

@ Steve from Niwot, Co., Thanks for that article. Where did you get it from?

Replied by Yeshua
(Anchorage, Alaska, Usa)
01/19/2012

@ Blazicekj from Prague, Czech Republic:

Hi, you said you would try those herbs for the apnea. How did that go? Have you learned anything new since posting? Thank you!

Replied by Hope
(Sacramento, California)
01/03/2013
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Editor's Choice I have had sleep apnea for several years, which was getting more intense as every month went by. I decided to try the vitamin C (sodium ascorbate powder) in addition to Pharma Gaba and Magnesium. I combined 1/2 tsp sodium ascorbate C in 8 ounces of pure water, with 250 mg magnesium malate, or magnesium oil applied transdermally, and 100 mg Pharma GABA. I would take this combination 1/2 to 1 hour before bedtime.

I have not have anymore occurances of apnea ....

Many, many thanks to Earth Clinic and the large family of contributors, I no longer have this problem!



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