Natural Remedies to Treat Pneumonia

Hydrogen Peroxide

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Posted by Sarah (Newark, New Jersey) on 03/03/2012

Hello, I have a question, My 15 month old son was sick with a lot of cough, some fever and after taking him to the doctor, he said he had a virus. We had a hard time giving him his medicine because he wouldn't swallow it and the next day the cough got a little worse and you could tell he was weaker. So we took him to the Emergency Room. After putting him the mask, you know, the nebulizer he got better. After doing an Xray the doctor said my son had pneumonia so we were told to really give him all his medicine, antibiotics and stuff (which we did).

Then at home 4 hours later he was coughing a lot again, almost as bad as before. So I read somewhere here that you can help your body fight a virus by spraying hydrogen peroxide. I was scared first because my son is so young (15 months), but I was desperate. So I took the regular 3% hydrogen peroxide that they sell in the stores and put a small amount (enough to make it wet) in a piece of cloth and wiped his feet, legs, hands, belly, chest, back and a little of his arms and you know I watched him carefully. Shortly after I would say like 15 or 20 minutes afterwards his cough diminished a lot. It wasn't completely gone but I could tell he felt a little better.

After 3 or 4 hours, the cough started again and I did the same thing and again it helped him diminish the cough and was able to sleep for some hours. Then 3 hours later I repeated again and it helped. The next day and following days I didn't think it was neccesary to use the peroxide because his cough had diminished considerably.

Now my question is: what did the Peroxide do exactly? or was it just coincidence, because they gave him antibiotics and other medicines at the ER and also the next 5 days we were able to give him his antibiotics and medicines. I am pretty sure the Hydrogen peroxide helped but I can't say exactly how. I don't know if I would recommend this because, everybody is different and children are more sensitive and fragile, but I am sure that the peroxide helped him with his cough. Do you think maybe the peroxide made him sleepy? I doubt it but I am looking forward to your reply. Thank you in advance and I think this site is great. It helps a lot.

Replied by Melissa
(San Antonio, Texas)

Sarah, I'm not a chemist or a doctor, but I've also heard that hydrogen peroxide is very effective against viruses (virii?). However, I would not discount the healing energy of your touch with the swabs. The cooling effect, probably in a nice, calm home enivronment (not a clinical doctor's office or hospital) in which to receive his 'medication. ' I'm certain there was a physical effect, but I feel quite strongly that the touch was just as important. You soothed your baby. Your baby was able to sleep, and sleep is critical to healing. I say "all the above. " :)

Replied by Lisa
(Western, Sd)

Hi Sarah from Newark, New Jersey: Hydrogen Peroxide creates an oxygen rich environment where viruses can't live and good bacteria thrive. See Earth Clinic's "Remedies"; Hydrogen Peroxide Cures & Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method. I think you did exactly the right thing rubbing it on your infant - skin absorbs what you put on it. Brilliant, great job! Now that your son has had antibiotics, research also Earth Clinic's "Remedies"; Acidophilus Cures and "Ailments"; Antibiotics Side Effects.

Replied by Sarah
(Newark, Nj)

Yes, Thanks so much for your comments, Melissa and Lisa, you know? about a month after all that happened I noticed my son was getting something, like a cold or the flu, because he had a little fever, he was a little less energetic, etc. So again I rubbed him with peroxide and it helped again. The peroxide helps to stop whatever virus or other thing from spreading or continuing to harm your body. I also agree about the importance of the soothing touch, and even when I wasn't in favor of the antibiotics, (specially since it seems this was a virus) I was too scared to risk not obeying the doctor. I never thought something so simple as Hydrogen Peroxide could help so much. Thank you guys for your explanations and information and thanks to Earth Clinic, I am learning a lot.


It gets absorbed through the skin. I read on a cancer blog that this is standard procedure for cancer suffers being treated in their care. You must be careful as it kills all bacteria both the good and bad, so a probiotic is in order when using it, milk kefir is the best and easy to make at home. CDS water the aqueous form of MMS is easy to make and does the same thing but will not kill off the good bacteria. You don't get the common side effects of MMS with CDS Water. You can just put it in some water and drink it or just put it in a jar and leave open by the baby or whoever it will diffuse on its own but will need to be replaced in 2-3 days, so this can get expensive. You can also use this in a vape pen or a small cold nebulizer, no need for any mask, just get the mist in his face, so he can inhale it.

Replied by Roula
(Arlington, Viginia, Usa)
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I want to join this discussion because my 3.5 year old is currently suffering from Pneumonia. He had a miserable spell during the sleepless feverish night, so after reading up on this site, I tested the HP we have at home with water using the recommended methods on this site, and it looked clear. So I sprayed about 3-4 times in the back of his throat (he didn't mind it at all! ). I helped him blow his nose minute later and a lot of snoots came out. Then I witnessed his cough completely stip, his face relaxed, and he fell back asleep.

A few hour later, he woke up again feeling pretty lousy and very warm bodied. He was having a coughing fit for ten minutes and was exhausting him.. I gave him a few more squirts of hydrogen peroxide. The cough almost immediately stopped again and minutes later he got a spark of energy and said he wanted to get up. We blew out snoots as before, then he walked around a little bit, and snuggled on the couch and fell asleep peacefully.

I started a topic on HP in the humidifier just now. What do you all think?


Replied by Hollyv
(Greenville, Sc)

I'm pretty sure I've got a spot of pneumonia, as I did have it a few years ago for the first time. So, I'm reading here what to do, and I've got a list going: garlic, H202, vitamin c, probiotics, sea salt, etc. Because I am a huge believer in this website (tried and true). BUT, should I go for doing ALL of these things at once? Or will that overwhelm my body? Maybe each of them in small doses? Not sure which one I need? Or if all will be great??

Replied by Dave
(Greenville, Sc)

Hello Holly,

There's nothing wrong with taking the full set of items you list to deal with the infection... Garlic, H2O2, sea salt etc. While you're at it, why don't you add the one thing that would, in my opinion, really kill the pneumonia? Colloidal Silver. You need a vaporizer... Which turns the liquid into a steam and when I feel something in my respiratory, I make sure to breathe deeply for a few minutes Mine has a "cup" that I breathe into. I do this three times daily for a week. Always knocks out my infection that fast. I see from your post you live close to my office and if you email me at david (at) I'd be happy to have a bottle of CS for you. I give away bottles to friends and family... And have for decades. Free.

Replied by Robert
(California, US)
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My advice the quickest way without all that complicated whooey - take antibiotic with a concentrated amount of green tea. Had pnemonia for 3 days, almost died becuse the bactera became resistant. Take 4 bags of green, tea steep in water, do not boil but get it hot enough to leech out tea; let it cool. Now you might get lit off the caffine but I survived by takeing the antibiotic and tea at the same time. What you"ll notice in less than five minutes is your infection will break. This is because the tea will kill bacteria, viral and fungal forms of pnemonia. Antibiotics will be boosted by 300%; don"t say it won't work it will! And repeat a smaller dose tommorow of the tea along with antibiotic or medication given.

Replied by Holly
(Greenville, Sc)

Dave from Fountain Inn:

Wow. So here I sit reading earthclinic, thinking I have have pneumonia. I don't even remember if I had it in 2013. I don't remember posting this back then, and I believe I'm seeing your response for the first time! If you're still out there, I'd love to come by and get some colloidal silver! I am trying the vinegar and h202 this evening, and had planned to go to the ER in the morning if I still feel this in my chest.

Replied by David
(Fountain Inn, Sc)

Hello Holly,

Yes, I'm still around! Just gave someone a bottle of CS this morning. Got of course. How about emailing me at david at davidthomaslawfirm dot com

Replied by Julie
(Greenville, Sc)

I was wondering if a colloidal silver steam would work if I don't have a nebulizer handy? If anyone has this info, please advise, thank you!

Replied by Art
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In reply to Julie (Greenville, Sc),

If by, "steam", you mean that you are going to put colloidal silver in a pot and and boil it to get steam, no, that will not work. If you boil colloidal silver, the silver will remain in the pot while the water vapor escapes. You will notice that the remaining colloidal silver in the pot will start to darken from the natural light to medium yellow color to a darker golden color and if you boil it long enough it may turn brown as the silver particles become more concentrated.

A cold vapor ultrasonic humidifier will deliver plenty of colloidal silver in a relatively short period of time compared to a nebulizer which delivers a much smaller amount in a given period of time. This is an important point when you consider that the interior surface area of the lungs is approximately half of a tennis court.


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How much and what strength of CS to use in a cold vapor ultrasonic humidifier?

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Hello Cindy,

When I use colloidal silver for coughs and lung congestion, I have a very small cool mist vaporizer that only requires about 2 ounces of CS for one treatment, but most cool mist vaporizers require more ounces in my experience in order to work, usually about 4 or 5 ounces. So I breathe in from the outlet port of the vaporizer at a distance of a couple of inches and I alternate between breathing through my nose and breathing through my mouth in order to get the vapor into as many areas as possible.

I use 20 ppm colloidal silver and I do the breathing for 7 to 10 minutes per session. If I do 7 minute sessions, I will do 4 sessions per day and if I do 10 minute sessions I will do 3 sessions per day.

I never reuse any remaining silver that is left in my cool mist vaporizer, because the sonication process of the vaporizer can knock the silver out of suspension, so I put new colloidal silver for each use.

Whenever I am having a cough or lung congestion, I also use melatonin at high dose as Dr. Neel does for his Covid-19 patients at 1 mg per kilogram of body weight. I weigh about 180 lbs. which is approximately 82 kilograms so I will take at least 82 mg of melatonin in divided doses spread throughout the night and day. Not everyone can tolerate melatonin, but I do so I use it and for me it is very helpful.

I am not a doctor so I can not recommend that anyone do what I am doing, I am just describing what I do and everyone else should see their doctor to make sure that what they are doing for them is safe for them to do.

When you see your doctor, you might show him this study that discusses the use of melatonin for lungs during flu and possibly pneumonia:

Good luck and keep us updated.


Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 08/31/2011
5 out of 5 stars

Breathing thru a mouthful of VERY DILUTED hydrogen peroxide, helped me for lung issues (and nose, throat). DO NOT SWALLOW.

Replied by Francisca
(Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France)

To Mmsg, I tried to breath the water with HP but it didn't work, I couldn't get anything up my nose. After that I breathed a bit I put into the palm of my hand and it did indeed calm my sinuses just it burned a bit, maybe I had used too much HP. No idea how you do it through your mouth though....

Replied by Mmsg
(Somewhere, Europe)

Francisca, I don't breathe it up my nose! Just plain breathing the air in my mouth that has the diluted HP in it! I open my mouth, taking care the diluted HP doesn't drip out, and just take a couple of good breaths. Then spit it out and rinse my mouth. I do it a few times a day as needed.

Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method

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Posted by Rob (Kentucky) on 10/23/2020
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I have not seen a General Recipe to follow for Nebulizing Hydrogen Peroxide so here is one I use.

This “general recipe” is for internal use. You can use 3% brown bottle hydrogen peroxide. I load this into my medicine cup on my nebulizer.

-As a preventative to keep infections at bay / promote healing – add 0.5 ml (cc)(or ~12 drops if using a dropper) to a nebulizer filled with 5 ml (cc) distilled saline water. Use once a day or as often as you feel the need.

–To fight a lung, bronchial or sinus infection or to get hydrogen peroxide into the body for a systemic treatment – add an amount (see below) of 3% hydrogen peroxide to a nebulizer filled with 5ml (cc) distilled saline water. Use several times. Repeat this process 4 -6 times a day and more often when fighting a virus.

✔The lowest effective dose is ~0.5 ml (cc) or ~ 12 drops (if using a dropper) in 5 ml (cc) distilled water for about 3 minutes. (As a guideline: 1 ml usually contains about 25 drops, but obviously varies with different droppers). If this is your first time using this therapy, use this dose (or even less) to test your reaction. Use this treatment every 2-4 hours.

✔Increase dose as tolerated up to a maximum ½ tsp = 2.0 ml (cc) in Nebulized 3% H2O2 will not only contact the lungs, it will also enter the bloodstream, where it will oxidize pathogens and toxins. For a maximum of 10 minutes per breathing session. Use this treatment every 2-4 hours.

Caution must be exercised by smokers and individuals who have used prescription and nonprescription drugs in their lungs, and those who are very sick. If H2O2 solution is too strong, the H2O2 reaction with a heavy contaminant or microbial presence could promote tissue-damaging inflammation in the lungs and a potentially dangerous systemic “die-off” effect, called the Herxheimer Reaction.

Warning: The following symptoms after nebulizing indicate that you are using too strong a solution - flu-like symptoms, headache, fever, diarrhea, fatigue. Consult your physician before using peroxide in a nebulizer.

Replied by Zenda
(Pleasant Grove, UT)

Food grade peroxide should be used for anything internally because of the stabilizers in brown bottle store peroxide. It may be safe in a nebulizer, but I wouldn't use it internally for anything else, but if it does get absorbed into the blood stream, I probably would only use food grade peroxide.

Replied by Frances
(Cabarlah, Qld., Australia)

I follow the advice of Dr Thomas Levy on treating/preventing viral infections with hydrogen peroxide in a nebulizer. You can search the internet for details.

Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method
Posted by Doug (Denver, Colorado) on 01/27/2008
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I came down with pneumonia Jan 2007. Doctors at the urgent care gave me Factive and it cleared up the pneumonia at first. Then around summertime (same year) I developed a chronic cough which I felt was from the initial pneumonia. Around Novemeber I came down with full blown bronchitis, or some kind of a lung obstruction. Iran into Bill's HP treatment protocol and everything is fine now. What a rough year I had in 2007 regarding my health. This was especially difficult for a guy that has never been sick in his life. I will never stop using HP again. All of this suffering could have been stopped months ago. Thanks again Bill and Earth Clinic...

Replied by Peggy
(Millington, TN)

I am writing about the inhalation therapy with Hydrogen Peroxide posted in Jan of 08. I am dealing with the same problem can you tell me the protocol you followed, The same measurements? Thank you so much for sharing.

Replied by Angela2282
(East Palatka, Fl)

I am having the same problem. Persistent cough & wheezing. Would like to know how to do this and how much and how often. Been on antibiotics for 1 week along with Primatene (inhaler), Robatussin, and cough drops. No signs of getting better, actually getting worse. Please someone help, this is miserable.

EC: Sorry, we should have added this link to Doug's post:

Replied by Gengle
1 out of 5 stars

Don't do this! Your lungs are sensitive--I feel that this caused me more problems than ever. Don't cause yourself a new set of problems!!

Replied by Brad
(Il, US)
1 out of 5 stars

Hydrogen Peroxide wrecked my lungs. I will never try this again. It was diluted very thin as well. I don't know who this is working for, but from my own experience I know that it did nothing but nearly kill me.

Replied by Robert Henry
(Ten Mile, Tn.)

HI U BRAD, , , , , , would you like to understand what your problem is ? If so then tell us what dilute means. What concentration did you start with? It's funny that this method was started some 25 years ago by a Michigan fella named Bill Munro and no one has had your problem. Maybe you used the wrong strength. I suspect you made a mistake in your strength. If you want to get to the bottom of this then respond, otherwise, I have understood 'Mericans for some 45 years and I assume you are one.


Replied by Robert Henry
(Ten Mile, Tn.)

HI U GOOD PEOPLE, , , , , , , , SJS, I just remembered a story, so I may owe Brad an apology. I had a hunting buddy in Arkansas in the 70's who had lung cancer and 90% of one lung was removed. Years later he would relate that this piece of a lung put him in the hospital for weeks at a time with pneumonia. This happened about three times a year.

I related how we were doing Bill Munro's H202 inhalation and he should try it. A few months later he called me mad as a wet hen, saying that I was trying to kill him. He was coughing up bad stuff. Later that year he called to thank me because he had not gotten pneumonia . He never got pneumonia again for 3 years . He was a smoker and I think that was a factor for his initial problems.

Maybe Brad was a smoker and that caused his problem. Sometimes we get ahead of ourselves. Different strokes for different folks. Live and learn.


Multiple Remedies

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Posted by Renee (Vader, Wa) on 09/03/2016
5 out of 5 stars

I am so angry at my doctor right now. He does blood tests all the time because I take a muscle relaxant baclofen. Why didn't he check my magnesium? He would rather have me take ropinirole that makes me sick. That's just crazy. Thank you Earth Clinic for the help with my rls. It's crazy, but the soap worked last night and I went to sleep in 10 minutes! I put the soap in my slippers for 10 minutes and it worked with the rls. I'm bedridden because of the cancer twice and they had to take my whole lung and 18 lymph nodes. I wish that i knew about this sight before, maybe my lung could've been saved. But the other lung has asthma and copd. I almost died last year! Earth Clinic saved my life!!! I had pneumonia 7 times in a row!! My caregiver and my friend that stays with me now also had to call an ambulance. I didn't want to go to the hospital with my pneumonia because I knew they would keep me and iI have 3 cats and 3 dogs that have to eat. So my friend moved in to help so I had someone else to feed my pets.

I was hospitalized for my pneumonia 5 times for a week at a time. I had to leave the last time against the doctors permission because I have conjestive heart failure and he wanted to treat my kidneys first. I tried to tell him that if he flooded my kidneys with me having chf and pneumonia I would die for sure. He wouldn't listen and he tried to force me into taking the iv. I had to get out of there fast! I went home and looked up Earth Clinic. That's when I found out that all the steroids and antibiotics were what was causing me to get pneumonia multiple times! I immediately started to lower my steroids. I was taking 160 milligrams of steroids a day just to keep me breathing! i kept taking my antibiotics.

To keep my infection at bay. I had to lower my steroids slowly but surely. I started the cure of h2o2 drops in water and the apple cider vinegar and baking soda! lo an behold, in a couple of days I had some relief from the pneumonia and my kidneys! I also bought vitamin supplements and immune support. I also started the coconut oil and dmso on my lung and doing the oil pulling with coconut oil. I also started using the sea salt for the minerals, although sparingly until my kidneys got better.

Now I'm going to need to get help with my terrible pain, cuz I went off my morphine of 90 milligrams per day! help, I'm in alot of pain but I won't take the morphine any more! .

On an upnote, I was on the highest level of oxygen and now I'm back to 2! Sometimes I can have it on 1 1/2! but I'm not going to push it! I'm taking it slowly but surely. But 2 is great news for me! I'm now able to go to my regular bathroom most of the time, and I can do some light housework! I'm gonna be able to drive soon, when I get my handicap sticker! I am so psyched to get to do some things on my own! I never thought I'd be happy to do the dishes, crazy right? but I am! I'm fighting this with everything i got. If someone else has any suggestions for me, I would appreciate any help with this! and any idea's for the pain, of course I would appreciate it.

Again Earth Clinic, you literally just saved my life! thank you, thank you, thank you for being the only thing that saved my life! I would literally be dead!

P.S. I forgot to tell you that because of the steroids i've been taking for a year, my front teeth are rotten! and I lost 2 of them! hows that for anti steroid use!.

Replied by Mmsg
(Somewhere, Europe)

Renee, read up on cayenne for pain.

Replied by Isabel
(Tampa, Fl)

Use cayenne pepper pills try to get at least 100 hu 3 times a day, that will help your heart and your lungs, good luck.

Replied by Talassis

For pain relief, take 1/2 -1 tsp of cayenne in hot water. You can sweeten with honey.

Replied by Judy W.

Look into BOSWELLIA SERATTA - cheap. It's anti-inflammatory: arthritis, gut issues, etc.

Pneuomonia Protocol

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Posted by Myway (Wilmington, De) on 01/01/2015
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Last year, traveling to Central America, I contracted Pneumonia. Because this condition is so serious being an asthmatic, I went into action with a tool chest of researched information. Since my last pneumonia episode was over 10 years ago, I pretty much have been able to keep my asthma and infections at bay through research and knowledge.....and I was better prepared to deal with this episode myself. I was not scared - I just took action! Here is what worked for me....the point is - be empowered to take action early when the need arises as it relates to your health.

1. Crush 4 cloves of garlic, let sit for 10 minutes to allow the allicin to activate. This is an important step. Then, I threw the garlic into my mouth, chased it down with an available natural juice. I did this three times a day for 3 days...then tapered to two times a day for 2 days, then one time a day for a week.

2. Downed 2Tbl of organic coconut oil for 5 days, once a day.

3. Used my albuterol inhaler every 4 hours.

4. Drank Airborne product to boost immune system 2X a day. These are easy to travel with. I used the packets that are for hot beverages.

5. Ate very, very healthy foods for 2 days.

6. Epsom salt warm bath, once a day for 3 days. 20 minutes. This helps with the smell of the garlic but also, allows you to relax your airways.

7. Drank the following tonic 2X a day - 1 Tablespoon ACV, cup of water, Tablespoon of honey - all warmed, not hot!

In case I needed it, I had a Medrol dose pack I keep that I got from my MDs office prior to leaving the United States. This was a last resort - just in case. I didn't need it but, it's great to be prepared for a trip.

During this episode of pneumonia, I learned a lot. I still traveled around but was not able to do any real hiking ect. I did not have to go to the hospital because I caught it early enough. The only thing I wish I had done earlier was put a capful of H202 (hydrogen peroxide 3%) in each ear for five minutes. My ears were not infected so, I could have used this as well to beat down the infection and perhaps the infection would have been resolved earlier. H202 cannot be put into infected ear or ruptured ear drum.

Lastly, if you travel by airplane and have a propensity to getting respiratory infections, I would suggest using Bill Munroe's H202 inhalation method on the days you are travelling on an aircraft as a preventative for infection. Just keep the bottle in your carry-on or purse. I do!

I hope this information helps fellow travelers! When we are away from our homes - having our arsenal of information and products with us makes the trips more enjoyable....Good luck!


...Just doing my part! :D

Sea Salt

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Posted by Rv (Huntington Beach, Ca, USA) on 12/14/2009
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Sea Salt for Pneumonia

I have (usually) mild asthma. I visited a dusty wildflower area and contracted fungal pneumonia. The doctor did not apply effective antibiotics, because the infection was fungal, and he initially misdiagnosed it. The infection continued for weeks, and hardened into chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. Over the next year I tried many remedies. Then I found an interesting fact. The ocean has millions of antibacterial virions per liter. This is why there are so few bacteria there: predation. I live in an oceanside city, and have no problem getting clean, fresh seawater. I spat some infected sputum into a bottle of seawater and diluted it to invisibility. The idea was that any virus would rapidly multiply by killing and eating the bacteria of my infection. Then over a week, I sprayed the water and inhaled it. My coughing got worse, but then air began to penetrate past the blockages and I began to cough them up; some looked like french fries. I'm now healthy.

I think a similar effort might work with artificial seawater made from organic sea salt. The idea is that it must be organic so that the antibacterial virions would need to be preserved in the salt.

Replied by Ca
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SEA SALT is probably good, however the part about bacteria not being in seawater is not actually true, there are times when there are a lot of bacteria in the Gulf, and there are warnings to be careful swimming or walking in it if you have any cuts.

Replied by Cathy

LOL!! Too funny!! Sea water is very healing to infections, rashes, cuts etc. Why do you think Ponce De Leon when finding FL called it the fountain of youth? I had cellulitis on my leg for several years that no doctor could heal, and it kept getting bigger. Visited Mobile and waded in the sea at Dauphin Island. Looked down the next week and it was gone. Your statement is very much untrue.

(Crystal River)

We have a small beach here that is closed on occasions due to bacteria levels, so I can see truth in that but have also had a very large bad burn and was really surprised to see how well it had healed after going in salt water.

Tea Tree Oil in Diffuser

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Posted by Sherrie (Florida) on 04/15/2022
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My mom had pneumonia for over two weeks, all drugs FAILED. I put pharmaceutical grade Tea Tree oil (antimicrobial) in a diffuser and her lungs cleared up IN 1 HOUR! I'm here to take notes on the Angina. Thank you everyone for sharing your stories! ALSO another thing to help Lung infections or Congestion is Mullein! It's a flower. I bought tinctures and a few drops under the tongue work almost immediately!!

Replied by KS

Thank you! I am still recovering from Covid but, still have sinus and chest congestion and fatigue. Some days are better than others.

Turmeric and Garlic

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Posted by waynosgirl (Utah, USA) on 11/24/2019
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Around a year ago, my husband got where he could not raise his left arm above the shoulder. He did not think too much about it as he has an old injury of the shoulder blade. Then about 8 months ago he noticed swelling at the top of his left leg where it meets the groin that has gotten progressively worse. We don't have insurance and he refused to address the issue medically.

Then about 2 weeks ago he was unable to pull in a sufficient amount of air, so i took him up to our medical center because I was thinking pneumonia, which they agreed was the problem. They put him on a strong antibiotic, and water pills. It immediately began to improve, we also asked for and received medication to use in a nebulizer.

He lost over 8lbs in fluids from the water pills in about 9 days and his breathing was good. During follow up, we had the leg issue checked as well, and they sent him for a ultra sound-also for a ct scan of his lungs as they had some questions about what his x rays at the time we initially went in showed. they think but are not sure that the leg issue may be swollen lymph nodes. We have not gotten test results back on those yet [ct scan or ultra sound]. He was told he could try discontinuing the water pills and see if his breathing is still good without them.

He was off them 2 days but today was noticing a small amount of issues, so took one. Also today, he noticed that he can raise his arm up above his shoulder again. Because of the lymph node issue I have been giving him turmeric tincture and 1000mg of garlic [capsules] a day - hoping the turmeric would help with the inflammation and the garlic because it is a blood purifier.

At the time of this post, he has been coughing up really yellow phlegm today. He wasn't coughing up anything when the pneumonia started or b4 last night. The other thing we have noticed is when he does not take the water pills, his urine is much much darker yellow whereas with them, it is a clearer yellow.

Before he first started the water pills, the urine was a cloudy dark yellow, but when he was off them the 2 days it was just darker not cloudy. I'm not sure if there are several individual issues going on here or if its more of a chain reaction of causes. Can anybody give me their thoughts on which it might be? Or help in any way with possible treatments or avenues to pursue? He turned 60 this year and has a history of letting old physical injuries [many] heal on there own, neither of us have a lot of faith in mainstream medical care even if we could afford it.

Replied by Anon

Hi! I'm not a doctor but i have done a bit of reading. You might consider aluminum (or other toxic metal) poisoning as aluminum is thought to cause swelling. Mustard seed is said to reduce swelling. It happens to contain a bit of selenium which is needed for thyroid function but which also is said to remove toxic metals. If his thyroid is not functioning well such as from iodine deficiency he could be more succeptible to an infection such as pneumonia. You might look at the iodine protocol. Mustard powder is perhaps easiest to take mixed with coconut oil, chilled till somewhat firm, and cut into pill size portions. It can also be mixed with mashed potatoes or coleslaw. Mixed with ginger powder it makes a tolerable tea. Olive leaf and/or goldenseal would probably give him more immediate relief from infection. Echinacea taken long term can boost the body's natural immunity, too. Best wishes.

Turpentine and Castor Oil

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Posted by cclark (Oklahoma City, OK) on 08/07/2021
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My young son had repeated bouts of pneumonia so I decided to try a natural cure and used the remedy in the Folk Medicine book by Dr. Jarvis which used turpentine and castor oil.

The oil is warmed and a few drops of turpentine are added. I rubbed this on his chest and covered it with a warm cloth at bedtime. In the morning his cough had loosened and he continued to get better. It worked every time.

Replied by Teena
(Melbourne, Australia)
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I love how this is simple, bonding, soothing, and it works. Thanks for sharing.

Vitamin C

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Posted by Skye (Dokkum, Netherlands) on 08/04/2012
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I swear by using Vit C.

Having had asthmatic bronchitus for many years, I was prescribed inhaler #4 when I decided "enough is too much! ". I threw out the inhalers and started using Vit C as per the directions of Linus Pauling and Adelle Davis.

The rule of thumb is to start slowly and get the body used to it by taking 1000mg per day, increasing this every few days or every week until you hit your "body tolerance level". Pure and simple this means: until your bowels start to protest :-) Then cut back by 500 or 1000 mg until you're comfortable. And yes, in case of an illness like pneumonia (which I have had several bouts with) the tolerance level will greatly increase, as the body's own reserves of ascorbic acid are rapidly depleted.

In some cases when having penumonia, I have taken up to 15-20 grams of Vit C in one day and not had irritated bowels. It is a wonderful aid in recovering from illnesses.

However, be aware that there always needs to be an extra protein supplementation as well, as the body loses protein at a shocking rate during any (severe) illness! This will also protect any potential damage done to either body tissues or even the DNA.

A good way to make sure you get sufficient protein during any illness (and it goes down easier than, say, 6 eggs :-) is to make "Tiger's Milk" or "Pep-Up Drink", a recipe from Adelle Davis.

Finally, taking Vit C every day is a great method to protect yourself against any illness, and if an illness does grab hold of you, to make sure it goes away in a hurry. The same goes for ACV honey, which also goes a long way towards strengthening your immune system. Finally, staying away from artificial products and/or chemically polluted products is also a good way to protect your system.

Vitamin C
Posted by Lizzie (London, Uk) on 08/14/2011
5 out of 5 stars

My partner had triple pneumonia last year. This also affected his heart and he was getting weaker and weaker. The doctors could not get rid of it, it just kept coming back. Out of desperation I looked up pneumonia cure on the net and read how one man cured himself by using heavy dosed of vitamin c. We were desperate and decided to try it. The idea is that you take powdered vitamin c mixed in water. Can be anything from 5 grams to 20 grams and keep taking throughout the day until you get close to diareah. You then know the amount to take for the next day. My partner was on 200grams a day! On the first day he took it he was coughing up blood and shivering... Later he felt much better. The next day alot less blood and then after that it completly went away! Was amazing to witness as in the past we would of had to go to hospital and he would have been given an oxygen mask to breath, an antibiotic drip and god knows what else. And would stay in hospital for a week. After this vitamin c episode he did not get pneumonia again!

Replied by Abc Pneumonia
(Kansas City, Missouri,usa.)

This question is for LIZZIE from London or anybody that has the answer.

Lizzie wrote that her partner took 200gram of powdered vit. C daily and his pneumonia gone.

Q.How long did he take the vit. C? Apart from mixing it in water, was there any other thing that he took that could be of help to me?

My wife has been diagnosed with chronic pneumonia. At first, the doctor gave her wrong diagnosis and treated her for more than one year for tuberculosis. Now, x-ray result shows that her right lung has washed out and it has some holes in it. My wife is finding it hard to breathe. She also coughs seriously and has severe pain in her chest region and she has lost a lot of weight. She is alive today only by the grace of GOD. Can someone tell me anything that can help my wife? Please, don't tell me about pharmaceutical treatment.

Thank you in advance for your suggestions and GOD bless.

Replied by Lizzie
(London, Uk)

In reply to the person asking: "Q. How long did he take the vit. C? Apart from mixing it in water, was there any other thing that he took that could be of help to me?"

He took the vit c every day. He still takes it without fail. He was prob taking around 150 to 200 grams a day for months (about 5) until one day he could only take around 10grams, and he has stayed on that ever since. Straight away he had emediate benefits. He stopped coughing up blood, no longer needed anti biotics and made a slow recovery. Now he is SO much better. I thought I was going to lose him but the vit c saved him. He also took cayenne. I would give him hot water with about quarter teaspoon cayenne. Try and give him regular drinks of it, I'm sure this helped too. If you have the money you can also try adding Lypo-Spheric vit c. It has a higher strength absorborancy.

This is the technique we used:


In 1970, I discovered that the sicker a patient was, the more ascorbic acid he would tolerate by mouth before diarrhea was produced. At least 80% of adult patients will tolerate 10 to 15 grams of ascorbic acid fine crystals in 1/2 cup water divided into 4 doses per 24 hours without having diarrhea. The astonishing finding was that all patients, tolerant of ascorbic acid, can take greater amounts of the substance orally without having diarrhea when ill or under stress. This increased tolerance is somewhat proportional to the toxicity of the disease being treated.

As he started to get better and we learnt more about alternative medicine we added other vits. Mainly for his heart as pneumonia was linked to years of heart problems. We added D-ribose, L- arginine. HE loves this stuff, if he misses a dose he feels so tired. Also Q - 10.

Hope this helps.

Replied by Hiptobehealthy

How is your wife doing now? Have you tried The vit c in high dosages? Cayenne pepper apple cider with honey diluted with water. In severe cases fast just drink spring water. Also I' m pretty sure you're wife is extremely acid. You can simply test this with with ph test strips (health store). Avoid any acidic foods such as meat, dairy, fish, grains refined sugars, junk food and only drink alkalizing juices: green juices (look up recipes on the internet). Grey Celtic unrefined sea salt, msm powder, calcium (only take pearl calcium), silica are alkalizing minerals she might take in addition to get alkaline. Also are there any irritants in the air of your home? Think of air conditioners, dusty heating systems, house molds, pets, ambrosia ( a plant that causes extreme hay fever and irritant to respiratory ways). In the Netherlands, people with pneumonia (or asthma and tbc) used to go to the Swiss alps for fresh air to get better. And get sunlight! Also consider grounding. If you're in a warm climate, your wife could walk barefoot or sit/ lay down touching the earth outside for at least 2 hrs a day. Otherwise consider a grounding pad (google on internet) to sleep on. It reduces pain and inflammation quickly. Good luck and just to show that there's a lot more you can do than just vitamin c. I would do as many as I could. Love & health.

Replied by Timh
(Ky, Usa)
2077 posts

Hip: I am convicted to amend your "Vit-C in high doses" to only Lipospheric Vit-C. Having used many forms of C over-the-yrs in small or large doses, and having only recently been using homemade Lipo-C, the difference is off-the-charts. This factor could easily determine the difference between a return to health or death. Lipospheric Vit-C is really the only way to administer.

Replied by Suzy
(Eugene Or)

To TimH- I was wondering about making one's own Liposomal /Lipospheric Vitamin C. Do you use an ultrasonic device? I value the input of EC regulars far more than a generic internet reference or posting.

Replied by Timh
(Ky, Usa)
2077 posts

Hello Suzy: Yes, I purchased a $30 ultrasonic device on Amazon along w/ NGMO Lecithin and pure Ascorbic Acid powder from Swanson. I followed these directions: how to make lipospheric vit c, mix 1 cup (filtered) water 2 spoons c in one container and stir, 2 cups water, 6 spoons lecithin in another container and stir, let both containers sit at room temp for 1hr, stir or blend the two together, let sit for 2 hrs, pour into ultracleaner and set for 480 sec or 8 min and stir almost continuously, refrigerate. Recommended dose is 1 oz, 1 or 2 x daily.

I have almost completed my 3rd batch and the effects are nothing less than amazing. I am also on my 2nd batch of Lipo Reduced Glutathione.

Vitamin D, Magnesium, Turmeric

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Posted by Science (Cyprus) on 04/24/2022 15 posts
5 out of 5 stars

I am a researcher, thus I can suggest this curement.

For coronavirus curement, simple cough, severe bronchitis or pneumonia I can suggest you try using these ingredients. This curement was developed by me.

I suggest using this:

a) 30,000IU vitamin D per day (notice here the dosage is 30,000IU and not 3000IU) for three days (in case symptoms persist, take for another two days).

b) 600mg Magnesium Citrate per day

c) 800mg Turmeric capsules per day (if you have gallbladder issues or if you feel pain in the right part of abdomen on gallbladder area when you take turmeric capsules, then do not take turmeric).

Probably you will see amazing results, since already in two different occasions, it eliminated cough in 2 days and on another occasion it eliminated cough in three days.

Use this curement completely on your own responsibility or inform your doctor as to supervise supplementation.

Water Kefir

Posted by Dmarshall029 (Trenton, MI) on 10/25/2014

I have had pneumonia for 3 1/2 months now. They have tried 3 courses of antibiotics to cure it, but nothing seems to help. It has been mild, they term it walking pneumonia, but it just won't cure. I am really wondering if water kefir (which I believe is awesome btw!) may have caused this accidentally, but my Dr was immediately dismissive of the idea. I make homemade water kefir so it is really rich in bacteria and about 2 weeks before I started noticing the breathing pain I accidentally inhaled some water kefir when drinking it, it was a good amount because I really choked on it. I never thought a whole lot about the pain I started having in my back when taking deep breaths because I never had any other symptoms, thought it was a pulled muscle (my doctor thought the same thing when I went in 6 weeks later). Eventually the pneumonia was found on a CT scan and it had become a somewhat larger case because it had been there so long I guess. Anyhow, I am wondering if this may be an opportunistic infection of "good bacteria" simply because it ended up in the wrong place and maybe that's why the antibiotics they keep giving me aren't working because they are aimed at the "bad bacteria". Any information would be greatly appreciated!!!

Replied by Meeya
(Sunnyvale, Ca)

I think it is definitely possible.

Kefir grains are also made from yeasts. If you are making it from grains passed down from someone else, there is really no way to know what strains of bacteria, yeasts, etc make up the grains. Even still -- if you were using a starter culture -- bacteria (good or bad), yeasts, and any other molds that may have been present in the liquid do not belong in the lungs.

Lugol's iodine helps with lung infections. Taken internally it has an affinity for mucous membranes and is antimicrobial. You could also get a nebulizer and inhale steam + peroxide. I'm sure there's lots of other info here on this site. I've never had pneumonia so I can't be very helpful on how to treat it. But I do think it could definitely be the cause for your infection.

Replied by Christine

How did it eventually go away?

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