Parkinson's Disease Remedies

I have recently been diagnosed with Parkinson's. Has anyone used the HP therapy successfully with PD. Another site claims success with it, but before jumping in I wanted to hear from someone that had used or is using it successfully.
Thanks

There currently is a research study underway at a private facility here in Denver to attempt to determine the effectiveness or magnetic therapy.The participant goes in for approximately 1 hour per day, 3 days per week, if I recall correctly.

Hi Jane, I am interested in making my own transdermal magnesium for head tremors. I have actually tested positive for Lyme disease and Lyme apparently consumes the Magnesium in the body. Have you considered having your dad tested for the presence of Borrelia Burgdorferi. Lyme can cause Parkinson's symptoms. I in fact believe that Michael J Fox, may be Lyme positive. He was apparently bitten by a tick and was put on a 6 week course of antibiotic therapy. He then later on developed Parkinsons. Most of us in the Lyme community know that Lyme is rarely eradicated with a 6 week course of Antibiotics. I also know that heavy metal poisoning seems to go hand in hand with a lot of these neurological symptoms. Therefore I am concerned about the claim by Ancient minerals that many of the bulk pharmaceutical grade Magnesium Chloride has lead and mercury. I have ordered some Magnesium for fish tanks off of Ebay and bought a test kit for home use and will test it for lead content. I also wrote the supplier to find out if they have a chemical analysis of the product. If it is shipped from China, I am doubting that it will. I also contacted an independent lab to find out how much testing for Mercury content would cost as I have not been able to find a home test kit for Mercury. I am hopeful that the transdermal Magnesium will be a big help. I can't afford to pay the prices that some of the companies that market the Mag Oil charges.

Thanks,

Susan

Hi John...I have been using Methylene Blue(MB) plus Vit C for a while now.

I bought the 1% MB at a hardware shop in the aquatics section. Then I converted the 1% MB to 0.1% MB by adding 1 X part by volume of MB to a dropper bottle, then I added 9 parts by volume of water as well. I just use a simple bottle cap for this -- where 1 part by volume equals one cap full. This will give you 0.1% MB. I put this mixture into a suitable bottle with a dropper top.

When I need it, I take one full glass of water with 2 grms Ascorbic Acid completely crushed and dissolved in it and add just one or two drops of the 0.1% MB to it. I take this twice a day if I need the energy or if I feel a cold or flu coming one. Gives you alot of energy and significantly boosts the immune system.

Also if you add the methylene blue to sodium ascorbate in water, the blue color disappears. How much of this do you mix???

Ted, my sister is 47 years old and was recently diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease. Please advise on a course of vitamins and supplements as well as a diet plan for her. Please state dosage and time of day to take each vitamin/supplement. Thank you for your time.

Another interesting article in recent news:

ScienceDaily (Sep. 17, 2009) - Individuals whose occupation involves contact with pesticides appear to have an increased risk of having Parkinson's disease, according to a report in the September issue of Archives of Neurology, one of the JAMA/Archives journals.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090914172528.htm

My Dad is 94 years old. No one can believe it. He still lives independently, drives his own car and his memory is fantastic. He has eaten eggs all his life, so I don't worry about it. His cholesterol is 170. He also eats a lot of fast food so I don't know what his secret is.

I have been seeking a good protein source for my father and family besides meat, beans and rice, etc. Something quick and easy ( I know, nothing good is easy). I asked Ted about it. I asked him about whey. He discouraged whey big time because it makes us have sticky blood. So I know there's got to be more to it than that and when I finally go back and reread his answer maybe he says more but I don't remember right now. At the time I had recently had an experience with my Dad on a lysine trial and it made his blood sticky. So Ted and I had been on that subject already.

Another source I asked him about is egg white protein. He told me that egg whites have high aspartic acid and that he and his don't eat the egg white, only the yolk. I have an egg white protein product in my home and yes it has almost 3000 mg of aspartic acid per scoop and almost 3000mg of glutamic acid per scoop!

So I have these questions about excitotoxins and egg white. I don't completely understand about the problems with excitotoxins in unprocessed food. One thing Ted mentioned is that the egg white is not the food source for the chick. So...anyway I looked around a bit on the net and read where people stated that eggs or egg whites caused them problems.

Does anyone have an understanding of this, especially the part about the egg whites?

Also it was during that time when Ted told me that asparagus is so high is aspartic acid, hence the name.

We ate eggs this morning, with the whites. Its sad to waste the whites I think, but is it really a problem for brain healing? I think it probably is. Can anyone help with this?

Dear Baldev,

When I learned about transdermal magnesium I went out and found a salt water aquarium hobby store and looked around. I had a conversation with the owner and asked him about the magnesium and all the supplements added to the aquariums. Apparently these hobbyists are very knowledgeable about the chemicals added to the aquariums because the fish and corals are expensive and one wrong move could kill them all. Anyway I asked the man for a sample of magnesium flakes and he gave it to me. I went home and made a solution by boiling some filtered water and made a 50% solution. I rubbed it into the skin and so that's how I got started. Now I have ordered my own magnesium flakes. The shipping is expensive and so it makes the end product more expensive than I would like. Since I believe it has saved my father's life after the accidental mega doses of calcium I cannot complain though.

I am now making a solution closer to 60-65%. We have very fair skin here. Sometimes it stings a little if we have a cut or something. But its worth it. You can make the solution weak or strong. At about 70% solution I've noticed that some of the magnesium falls out of solution and so I think 70% is a bit over maximum

Our family had some purchased natural magnesium oil already before I made my own. At first I just didn't know how to use it or that I needed to put a whole lot on my father at first. I wanted to make my own for some reason. What I have learned since is that you can use too much. So you have to watch yourself. After my Dad was saturated, then we backed down a bit. The signs of too much for my Dad were that he had a few pre atrial contractions. He had never had heart arrhythmia before. So all we had to do was back off a bit and now he is doing so great the doctors are very surprised. He always has a beautiful normal sinus rhythm and his heart rate and blood pressure are just perfect. Now we need to get his brain completely healed.

Another thing that I read, I think Ted said this, that the magnesium oil from the ocean has calcium in it. I had not thought of that before. I intend to stay away from calcium the best I can since I believe that too much of it caused my Dad's stroke and contributed to his stiffness. I think calcium is in the water here too as we have hard water and when I boil it there is a white powdery film on the bottom of the tea kettle.

I am thankful to a man named George Eby who set me straight regarding the magnesium supplement that I was giving my Dad. I emailed George after reading his website and he didn't really have time to reply at the time, but he did give me a strong warning to stop the magnesium because I told him it wasn't soluble in water. He told me that it was not magnesium citrate or it would be soluble. I am extremely grateful to that man. He has an interesting website too and discussed a great deal regarding how he cured himself of depression using magnesium. Also he recommended a book by Mark Sircus called Transdermal Magnesium which I bought and its very good.

I hope this helps you.

Jane

Hi Jane,

You have mentioned that you make your own magnesium oil from magnesium chloride. I would like to know as to how do you make and how do you use it for stiff joints/muscles.

Thanks
Baldev

Dear A from Toronto,

I learned from Ted that the sodium ascorbate is in a form more appropriate for the body since ascorbic acid would be a lower ph and our body is more optimal at a ph of about 7. Actually you could probably get a better answer from Ted because I am just learning about these things.

I have seen a published drug study regarding using the vitamin c with methylene blue. I believe it was in regard to treating malaria. At any rate it appears that vitamin c is needed. At least there should be vitamin c circulating in the body when taking methylene blue. I don't think its necessary to take vitamin c every time one takes methylene blue.

As to the stroke issue, I just don't know much about that. What I have read is that it is the chlorides that are so harmful. You know, table salt. So a good sea salt is something that you may want to get and avoid the table salt that is refined and not natural. Sodium chloride is in the processed foods as well. Apparently sea salt, like Celtic sea salt, is very good for us and even fights infections. It also increases thirst and so then we drink more water which is good for us.

Another comment about stroke. I have learned that excess calcium circulating is one sure cause of stroke. The misinformation about taking calcium is not been helpful to us at all. Also I gave my father mega doses of a magnesium citrate product that we since learned was not even magnesium at all or at least had a large component of calcium in it. We have now learned to make magnesium oil with the magnesium flakes sold to salt water fish hobbyists. I rub it on my Dad's skin and it goes through the skin into the body and relaxes his muscles and also helps to put the calcium in its place and out of the blood stream which greatly reduces his chance of having another stroke.

The alkaline drink is something we take about once per day, sometimes twice and now sometimes not at all. Everyone's needs are different and sometimes I am not that compliant. I guess its because my Dad is getting better and so now I'm not that scared. The alkaline drink we take is in a small cup with a small amount of water. We follow this drink with a glass of water. It is 1/8 tsp of sodium carbonate dissolved, then add 1/8 tsp baking soda dissolved, then add 1/8 to 1/4 tsp potassium citrate dissolved. So that's it. I still recommend inquiring of Ted because I learned this from him. The basic thing is to check urine ph and I believe it is supposed to be a 7. You may find other posts to verify all of this. It will not be in the methylene blue thread though.

Another way to alkalinize is to drink lemon water. Just don't use chlorinated water.

I hope this helps.

Jane

I have read about this but have not gotten any yet. I will check into it more. I am not very knowledgeable about all the possible supplements that will help him, but I am slowly learning. My time is very divided and I wish I had more time to delve into learning more. One thing is we have tried supplements and observe for benefits or any negative side effects. This is how we have been adding and taking away supplements to best meet his needs as we learn.

It appears to me that the cause of my father's symptoms are toxins in his body and now brain injury from the strokes. Also most probably fungus is involved. He had pesticide exposure and we have more reasons to believe his problems began with toxic exposure, probably multiple toxins.

Thanks for your post. I appreciate any comments and helpful information.

Mucuna pruriens is a tropical bean and is a natural source of dopamine. Dopamine is intimately connected to arousal. It is also the critical brain chemical in Parkinson's Disease, a disorder that I have dealt with for 17 years.

A group of we PWP were experimenting with the use of Muruna last year and I can attest to its effects upon male libido. But, let's face it, a good glass of tap water can qualify for many men.

What was unusual, however, was that women reported similar effects. As one of the first to notice commented, "I knew something was up when my ex- started loooking good!"

I can't suggest a dosage since the PD has an independent effect that would make such info irrelevant, so you will have to do some trial and error. It can be ordered as a raw powder via Amazon. Since mentioning a specific brand is discouraged here, I will only say that the excellent product which I used was grown in the US, was organic, and was only about $10 to $15 per pound. One caution, the powder is an incredible black stain once it is wet. The only thing that takes it off of enameled steel is oxyclean type remover.

Jane,Is there a reason why sodium ascorbate should be taken with the meth blue? Would another form of vitamin C not be better when stroke is a possibility? And could you describe the alkaline drink your father is taking-- exact amounts etc?

Thanks,
Abigail"

Hello Rick,

Just a quick answer to a few of your questions and comments. My Dad is 85. He began having symptoms at approximately 79 or so. He probably had symptoms earlier than that, but I did not see him all that often during that time and also the Parkinson's symptoms began insidiously.

We are not so perfect with the MB dosing. I try to give at least three doses per day. I also try to make sure he has sodium ascorbate to go along with it for at least two of the doses. I would like to be more consistent giving more frequent low doses of the MB and we are working on that.

Since my father had a stroke in November of 2008 and the early Spring of 2009, this has been a big setback. The stroke this Spring was the worst. He still has a great deal of recovery to accomplish, but he continues to improve. He is very mentally alert and aware of everything going on. He can still give advice and communicate well. He cannot walk. He needs assistance eating but he often is independent in eating. These problems are a result of the stroke. We have been eliminating and reducing offending foods and supplements as we observe problems. I am near certain that my father will not have another stroke. One of the biggest helps for him is magnesium oil applied all over his body. This has helped him very much and I learned a lesson about neglecting the magnesium oil. He will get stiff and harder to transfer when without the magnesium oil (I make ours from magnesium chloride flakes sold to saltwater fish aquarium hobbyists).

My father is not taking any prescription medicines to speak of now. We stopped the carbidopa/levodopa because he began to have mild hallucinations and we stopped it. He has only improved since stopping that medicine.

Jane, How is your dad doing with the MB? May I ask some basic questions? How old is he? How old was he when his first symptoms appeared? What dosing and schedule does he follow with the MB?

Hi Deirdre and EC!

The below link regarding Alzheimer's is interesting and there is a Parkinson's link included in the info. The fungal theory is a part of this and so much more. My Dad's Parkinson's symptoms became most evident after my mother flooded the bathtub a few times, years ago, and they dried out the carpet more than once. So I think fungus is a huge aspect of our problems here. Also as Ted says and as the article suggests, the mycotoxins are the byproduct of the fungus and may be more problem causing than the fungus itself. Apparently the mycotoxins are implicated in cancer and many neurodegenerative diseases. I think there are a multitude of factors but most are interrelated. Now that I have learned a few things about this I feel like I don't know anything at all. Its very humbling to me to try to find remedies and test what works and what doesn't. Also there seems to be so much misinformation to sift through and then try to learn what works for us as individuals.

I have tried a bit of heavy metal chelation on myself only to cause tinnitus that I can hardly get rid of. Like Sherlock Holmes I'm trying different things, observing and looking for a clue to the remedy for me as well as for my parents individually. Its scary because now I know I have so many neurotoxins, based on the tinnitus that began after chelating, and I just don't have the best plan right now to rid of it. I have tried a lot of supplements to stop it.

Parkinson's and fungus: I was reading with great interest the posts regarding Methylene Blue. I'll give it a go. However more of interest was the talk of fungus. Oddly enough, right after getting toenail fungus came Parkinson's. I have always felt that there was a connection. My opinion is that because Parkinson's is usually diagnosed in aged patients, toenail fungus was viewed as a common old age condition and never considered as a possible connection to the Parkinson's. So, if the fungus or it's byproducts are involved, that would explain why an anti-fungus med would have an effect. I'd sure like to hear more about this.

So now I have Methyline blue 2.303%, sodium ascorbate 1.69 grams, taurine 1.0 gram and potassium, calcium, zinc and manganese ascorbates 1,000 mg.(combined). What do I do with them?? How much, how often--all together, what?? Any help would be appreciated.

Dear Shel,

The methylene blue I used was from a fish aquarium store. It is usually 1% concentration. Ted encourages a dilution to 0.1%. When I first gave it to my father with the amazing results, I gave it with sodium ascorbate. It really worked to increase his energy and initiation of action. He is still taking it and it still helps. Other supplements have also helped him a great deal, like transdermal magnesium oil. This stuff has changed his life very much for the better. It has helped a great deal in reducing stiffness. What has harmed my father is bulk magnesium citrate powder from ____.com. I ordered many bulk supplements from ___ ___. I was told to give to my father "the more the better" of magnesium citrate. I did. But what I have learned, nearly too late, is that the white powder that was labeled magnesium citrate does not have the solubility characteristics and other typical characteristics of magnesium citrate at all. It has the characteristics of possibly calcium carbonate. I can pay $300.00 to have it tested at an analytical lab, but I am not able to pay for that at this time. I will do it later. The main thing is that be sure to learn from my mistake. It caused a stroke in my father. The lesson is to buy from a reputable bulk supplement suppler who actually tests the supplements that come from China. Also I think it would be prudent for us to learn to test our own purchases even if crudely by checking for the known properties of each substance, like ph and solubility. ____, the owner of ___ ____, told me that neither he nor his supplier out of Georgia test the bulk supplements they receive from China and then sell to us.

So keep up the methylene blue because it may be very helpful to you. Ted told me that it also may build up in the body's system somewhat over time. So you will need to work with the dose and be sure to take it with sodium ascorbate. It seems to be something needed together with the methylene blue. Also if you add the methylene blue to sodium ascorbate in water, the blue color disappears.

I hope this is helpful to you. I'll pass on some words given to me by a young lady who observed me working with my father. Don't give up. Never give up.

Jane

I got some methylene BLUE (we're talking blue) from a pet store--the only place I could find it. It says not for medicinal, human or animal use--but I took a couple drops anyway because they always say that stuff. Is there a different kind I should have gotten? Ted said it was the stuff for fish tanks so that's what I got. I thought I should maybe check before I took any more. If someone could email me directly I would appreciate it. I don't think it would take much of the stuff before you could give the Blue Men a run for their money--or at least a Smurf. If it matters, I forgot to mention I got it for Parkinson's.

Parkinson's thoughts:

Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin, so the heavier you are, probably the more you need. Would a pale-skinned person be low in vitamin d? Perhaps.

Vitamin D3 produces Cathelicidin, which fights lots of bad stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathelicidin

http://www.university-technology.com/details/novel-cathelicidin-based-anti-infective

"The novel anti-infective, in either a polypeptide, peptide or nucleic acid form, may have application as a therapeutic to treat fungal or bacterial infections, including those caused by drug resistant strains, such as E. coli, Salmonella enteritides, Acinetobacter baumannii, Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Klebsiella pneumoniae, Serratia marcescens, Burkholderia cepacia, Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA i.e. methicillin resistant), Staphylococcus epidermidis, Enterococcus faecalis (VREF i.e. vancomycin resistant) and Streptococcus agalactiae, and also against fungi such as Candida albicans, Candida glabrata and Cryptococcus neoformans."

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I was looking at Michael J. Fox the other day on TV... his neck/thyroid looks destroyed. Since Ted mentioned Thyroid, the Thyroid seems like something worth checking if you have this disease. In his case, perhaps his resembles Hyperthyroidism a bit; just an opinion.

I would kind of like to see a metametrix study (GI effects) on this disease.

Hello, Does anyone have any experience with magnetic field therapy and Parkinson's disease?

Thanks,
Abigail

Methylene blue can be purchased in two forms: pre-mixed with other elements or in a 'pure' state. ... What form is referred to by 1.0% and 9.1%? ... When adding 100 cc of methylene blue to 900 cc of water, what form of methylene blue is used - the pre-mixed or the 'pure'? ... How much Vit C is taken together with methylene blue? ... I'm asking because I would like to try methylene blue and vitamin C for my Parkinson's. ... I am 78 years old, diagnosed as having Parkinson's in 1998.

Jane, You should have your father's vitamin D level checked too:

Low Vitamin D Level Tied to Parkinson's Study: Vitamin D Insufficiency Often Accompanies Parkinson's Disease
By Miranda Hitti

http://www.webmd.com/parkinsons-disease/news/20081013/low-vitamin-d-level-tied-to-parkinsons

WebMD Health NewsReviewed by Louise Chang, MDOct. 13, 2008 -- Parkinson's disease patients may be particularly likely to have low blood levels of vitamin D.

Researchers report that news in the Archives of Neurology.

They studied 100 Parkinson's disease patients, 100 Alzheimer's disease patients, and 100 healthy adults of the same age as the Parkinson's and Alzheimer's patients.

Participants provided blood samples, which showed vitamin D insufficiency in 55% of the Parkinson's disease patients, compared to 41% of the Alzheimer's patients and 36% of the healthy participants.

Vitamin D deficiency, in which people have even less vitamin D than people who have vitamin D insufficiency, was also more common among the Parkinson's patients (23%), compared to the Alzheimer's patients (16%) and the healthy participants (10%).

The findings held regardless of people's age, gender, and presence or absence of an Alzheimer's-related mutation in the APOE gene.

The study was a snapshot in time -- it doesn't prove that low levels of vitamin D cause Parkinson's disease or that taking vitamin D would help prevent Parkinson's.

But those possibilities should be studied, note the researchers, who included Emory University's Marian Evatt, MD, MS.

Dear Mary from Northern Ireland,Yes my father is getting along well and the Parkinson's symptoms are definitely diminished since taking the methelyne blue regularly. I am very encouraged about this and I have specific reason to suspect that the Parkinson's is at least partially fungal related in my father. He is also taking the alkaline drink with sodium carbonate, bicarbonate of soda, potassium citrate, taurine, carnosine. The alkaline drink two and sometimes three times a day is noticeably helpful as well. He has sleep apnea which is problematic at times. The alkaline drink seems to help with this some as does sleeping on his side and not on his back. I would hate to be without any of these things because I have noticed increased mental focus for my dad and increased energy. At first I believe he was taking too much methylene blue, a drop of 1% solution three times daily. He is now taking a drop or two of 0.1% two to three times daily depending on our schedules. The higher concentration may have temporarily caused a tremor that wasn't there before. His symptoms did not initiate with the tremor, but with the mask like face and a shuffling gate. Now his face is like his old self with his smile and usual expressions. He has his sense of humor and his personality again. Also I believe that magnesium is helping him very much too.Not magnesium aspartate! Also I have since learned that our eating food with msg may have correlated with a little setback he had. So now we are much more careful to avoid all msg and excitotoxins that are sometimes in mineral supplements. He takes carbidopa/levidopa three times daily as well.

Hi Jane, can you tell me how your father is getting on with the methylene blue? Is it proving helpful. A relative of mine has just been diagnosed with Parkinson's. As yet they only have tremors in the hands and I would love to get something that prevents it getting any worse, or at least slows down its progression. Any updates would be appreciated. Thanks, Mary.

There is some brand new scientific news on this subject. However, the articles are pretty confusing. Is it caused by Yeast or Heavy Metal Poisoning? Unclear.

Link Found Between Parkinson's Disease Genes And Manganese Poisoning
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090201141559.htm

Penn Study Finds Link Between Parkinson's Disease Genes and Manganese Poisoning
http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/news/News_Releases/2009/02/parkinsons-manganese.html

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Hypothetically, with too much exposure to flouride, it can seep into the brain, and cause lead poisoning. This may not be the cause, but you can remove both lead and fluoride with mega-Iodine (discussed in the fluoride thread), and kill yeast.

Professional Perspectives: Fluoride in Tap Water
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_Ys9q1cvKGk

STUDY FINDS CORRELATION BETWEEN FLUORIDES IN WATER AND LEAD LEVELS
http://www.fluoridation.com/lead.htm

Dear Jane:

A taurine supplements dose averages about 1000 mg taken twice a day, with plenty of water, such as 1/2 glass of water. The taurine has a protective effect on the brain. As to alkalization, usually the preferred remedy.

As to your questions of potassium bicarbonate or potassium citrate or tripotassium citrate. These aren't usually available in most household items, but maybe available or found in electrolyte drinks formulation or found in certain potassium supplements found. When taking potassium, a baking soda is always taken. The dose for potassium is small, usually 1/8 or 1/4 teaspoon once a day while a baking soda may require just 1/2 teaspoon and a low dose to help stabilize the pH. Over the long term, usually about a week, an alkaline blood leads for the brain to recover faster too. Often it's the acidity of the brain that cause some degeneration of the brain and alkalinity provides protection. The rationale is a simple one: brain is a highly metabolic organ and hence is most acidic and needs something to reduce the excess acidity coming from carbon dioxide when the brain cells metabolise. This is a mild remedy.

A carnosine 500 mg x 2 is also seen to be helpful too, but aspartame and all artificial sugar must be avoided as those are most damaging to the brain. There are some unbelievers who think aspartame is safe, to which I always suggest to check for presence of blood methanol and formaldehyde after ingestion and it's always present in order to settle the aspartame controversy. Aspartame are also found in chewing gums and is also not helpful.

Ted

Hi Ted! I just accidently sent my last message before I was ready. I have so much to learn! I have not yet seen your Emergency Aid kit. How much Taurine supplements should I give? I have baking soda and I'm not exactly sure if I have potassium bicarbonate. I have potassium supplements. Is potassium bicarbonate a household product?

Thank you! Thank you! For your help.

Dear Jane:

The methylene blue works, however, continual use of low dose is very helpful. However if it is discontinued, at least in the beginning may weaken the energy level, but further dose will allow the person to recover. Methylene blue is considered a super antioxidant for the mitochrondria. The best that I have seen so far. The brain is the highest metabolic rate in the body and hence is helpful with methylene blue since it increases energy level to normal levels through mitochrondria support. Taurine supplements and some potassium bicarbonate with baking soda are also helpful and supportive to this remedy too.

It's often best used as dose I have mentioned. I liked it so much I have since added methylene blue to my Emergency Aid kit as posted previously, although it remains I still needed some tweaking. Low levels of brain metabolism is what I believe to be causing the Parkinson's disease, and I have found the methylene blue to be helpful.

Thank you for the feedback!

Ted

Hi Ted,

I am amazed that after one and a half days of taking methylene blue with vitamin c my 85 year old dad, who has Parkinson's, initiated transfer to his wheelchair and needed much less assistance than yesterday. Yesterday he was not weight bearing much. This morning I did not pick him up to get in his chair, just guided him. I broke out into laughter of happiness!

Thank you a million for the information you provide on earthclinic. I love seeing the results!

Jane