LPR Remedies

| Modified: Dec 08, 2018
Holistic treatments can help to ease the symptoms of LPR. Natural remedies such as aloe vera and peppermint help soothe inflammation of the esophagus. Lifestyle changes, such as modifications to one's diet, are important components in the treatment of this condition.

What is LPR?

Similar to gastroesophageal reflux disease or GERD, laryngopharyngeal reflux disease is a condition that results from the contents of the stomach backing up into the throat. However, the symptoms of laryngopharyngeal reflux disease or LPR are different from that of GERD. As such, LPR can be difficult to diagnose or even identify – a reason for which it is also called silent reflux.

The symptoms of LPR typically range depending on the age of the affected individual. LPR in infants and children typically includes symptoms such as hoarseness, a chronic cough, asthma, interrupted breathing, trouble feeding and poor weight gain. Adults are more likely to experience heartburn or reflux apparent in the throat; however, symptoms are often vague. Common symptoms may include throat clearing or coughing, hoarseness, the feeling of a lump in the throat, postnasal drip, trouble breathing or swallowing and a sore throat.

Remedies for Laryngopharyngeal Reflux Disease

While laryngopharyngeal reflux disease is often difficult to diagnose, it is typically fairly easy to treat. Many acid reflux remedies are just as effective for treatment of LPR. Aloe vera, chamomile and peppermint help soothe inflammation of the esophagus and treat LPR. Apple cider vinegar and baking soda can also be used to neutralize acid and prevent reflux. Other options include marshmallow root, B complex vitamins, vitamin C, digestive enzymes and essential amino acid complex. Watching the diet, maintaining a healthy weight and getting plenty of rest can also support treatment of laryngopharyngeal reflux disease.

Aloe Vera  

Posted by Motormouth (Charlotte, Nc) on 10/15/2011

To Ted,

This is my first day trying aloe vera for LPR. There were so many in the store I didnt know which one to get. I got one for digestion. It also has anise, chamomile and pepermint in it. It says to take 2 tsp to 4 tsp but I took one to see how I would react. Immediately after drinking one tsp., I kept bringing and coughing up clear mucus. Is this normal? Is this part of the Aloe vera trying to rid the body of the bad? or is this something to be worried about?

Replied by Cathyr
Sandbach, Cheshire England

I constantly bring up clear gel with LPR. It s one of the worst symptoms I have.

Replied by Stephanie
North Carolina

Hey all, I just got out of a two day hospital stay for chest tightness and pressure. Had a myriad of tests for heart attack, calcium and potassium are great. I am thinking it might be the silent reflux..i have some mucus that I cannot swallow down. Going to try the aloe...anybody else AND I have a heart monitor on for the next 30 days...

Replied by Myway

Stephanie - I would suggest you follow Dr. Carolyn Dean on her blog very carefully. Be sure your magnesium RBC (red blood cells) are checked. Be cautious of ANY medications you are given. Do your research. Live a healthy lifestyle. If mucous is a problem, I take black seed oil (nigella sativa). 1 tsp in the am, 1 tsp in the pm. Very safe oil (used for cooking in many countries). It can be purchased online or at "The Vitamin Shoppe".

You Got This!

Myway :D

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Posted by Stacey (Los Angeles) on 05/31/2017
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ACV, helping so far!

I have been dealing with this (likely) LPR issue for 4 months. It started when I would wake up in the middle of the night with excruciating chest tightness, but no asthma. It felt crushing to attempt breathing (inhaling specifically). It happened with full body aches, especially lower back pain. I had a lump in my throat feeling 24/7 also (actually I've had that lump feeling off and on for over 15 years). I went to the ER &, they said it was reactive airway disease and sent me home with albuterol. It worked well enough for 2 weeks, then the same middle of the night chest tightness again. I went to my Dr and she did bloodwork and a chest xray. Everything was normal, so sure sent me home with qvar and said to keep taking my allergy meds. Fast forward, my symptoms worsened and I ended up with what felt like very thick post nasal drip and constant coughing, mucus in my throat (stuck feeling), more chest pain that feels like asthma (but no wheezing), and overall weakness. I was most recently given flonaze and scheduled to see an allergist (I have always dealt with severe seasonal allergies).

I am a speech pathologist, so I have some understanding about the esophagus and the upper and lower esophageal sphincters (from 13 years ago when I was doing barium swallow studies). I also have had 2 close relatives die from esophageal cancer. I suspected a hiatal hernia and was doing some "exercises" to help with that (from youtube). In a way I'm relieved my Dr didn't suspect reflux because I haven't been sent down the PPI path.

About 10 days ago this constant thick congestion (stuck in my throat feeling) was too unbearable. I went on a strict detox and have only eaten very simple, plain, whole foods. I added probiotics, digestive enzymes, slippery elm, vitamin B 50 complex, and others (per the recommendations of people here). The most obvious changes took a week and included a reduction in my congestion. Unfortunately though my coughing increased and my lung pain was occuring every night (vs every 10 or so days). I changed my sleeping pattern to elevated and on the left side only (that can supposedly help the LES).

My understanding is that reflux can cause confestion because your body will produce more in order to coat a burning esophagus. I do feel the diet changes at least thinned my secretions. I also read that for some people, the reflux at night will aspirate into thier lungs and can cause lung spasms (not asthma). This made sense to me because my chest/lungs were so tight around 3am after I'd been having reflux while laying down for several hours (of stomach secretions backing up into my lungs). This caused the horrible coughing and need for the inhalers...which was getting worse (2x/night) last night in fact!

Yesterday I finally tried the ACV. Initially I took it with baking soda & water with meals. I didn't notice too much immediately. I took it right before bed (without baking soda) since night is when my symptoms are worst. This is the first night in awhile where I have not coughed at all and have zero chest tightness. I still had some secretions, but I took the ACV with BS again in the middle of the night and it seems to be the must helpful thing so far. I also had this weird gurguling between my stomach and neck with the sensation of needing to burp constantly. That is much much mess and the "lump" feeling is noticeably smaller.

I can't say I'm cured or out of the woods yet. I finally feel a small sense of hope though. I also made a consult appointment with an LPR expert at USC. I can't see him regularly for tests and f/u, but I just want to get his opinion given my family hx of esophageal cancer. I feel like my Dr will begin to take this more seriously if I pay privately for the insight of an expert. It is heart wrenching to read that all these people basically had to solve this problem for themselves or even undo the PPI damage their Drs caused!

Replied by Denise

I'm frightened all my symptoms/issues could lead to damage of my esophagus, and/or Cancer. No history that I know of in my family. I have had asthma since I was a little girl, I am now 64. It went away in my early teens. Always had what I was told were "environmental allergies" so I took meds (mostly over the counter) for really bad times.

Only in the past, two years have I had almost unbearable problems. I also have esophageal spasms, diagnosed by my cardio doc. I have had a 3rd degree AV Node block since 97, and on my 3rd pacemaker. So I thought I was having a heart attack when I first had one in or around 2011. I was given barium swallow and diagnosed with ESpasms.

The doc gave me nitro glycerin to stop the spasms and it worked but gave me the typical headache. I read online of a lady that had those spasms several times a day, omg:( She learned drinking a glass of cool water cured it, and guess what? It works for me!! I will get woke up with one, about 3 or 4 times a year, and the water always works within seconds of feeling it coming on.

Anyway, your symptoms and mine are a bit different, but I really appreciated your post. I am searching for answers, and do believe I have the LPR. I realized I can't leave it all to the doctors, and have to search out what I can, try other things besides drugs, they scare me worse than the conditions, but I have to say I do believe in conventional medicine as I may have died without the pacemaker. No meds with that thank God.

Posted by David (Thousand Oaks, CA) on 05/10/2006
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Went to 6 different ENTs (sad but true). Finally 1 good ENT knew what my problem was when I described the symptoms to him (globus or feeling something stuck in my throat, dry mouth, white tongue, etc.). He performed a flexiscope and found I have LPR which is form of "Silent Reflux" where acid flow up past your Upper sphincter and inflame your vocal chord causing irritations. He immediately put me in 2x PPI Nexium, it helped reduced my symptoms but I still get regular irritations in my throat. I decided to try ACV mixed with Raw Honey after each meal and it greatly reduced my symptoms. I feel better and is revisiting my ENT and should reduce to 1 PPI/day. Not good thing to do PPI if possible. Lots of side effects and long-term health risks.

Side-note is that if you have heartburn or throat lump problems, make SURE you get a good GI or ENT to diagnose. Don't go to a GP (General Practitioner) or FP (Family Practitioner) or Internist, they are not usually good and don't have expertise or equipment to diagnose your problem. They can make things worse by guessing your problem and misdiagnosing. Dr's. are people too and they're good and bad ones everywhere. It's up to you to find out and do your home work.

People that have LPR like me don't have heartburn because the acid does not stay long enough in the Esophagus to cause irritation. I did Esophogram and Barrium Swallon test and found don't have Esophagitis.

Replied by Josene
Port Douglas, Australia

Hi David, I have been diagnosed by and ENT specialist and he says I have LPR. I seem to have the symptoms you describe plus I cannot wear anything firm around my waist or chest etc. I was given 40mg somac tabs to take twice a day. After one week they made me very dizzy and depressed so I stopped taking them. I do not have dairy or soy or sugar, tomatoes and onions. I am happy to try apple cider vinegar or bicarbonate of soda. Do you recommend either of these.

To make matters worse I have been left with vertigo. It can be very debilitating as can the coughing from LPR.

Replied by Mark
Toledo, Ohio

Bottom line; LPR is no fun. It took months before I was finally diagnosed with LPR, and honestly, I figured it out mostly on my own through a lot of reading and research. My old ENT doctor finally confirmed it after and Endoscope and put me on script dosages of Prilosec and Zantac. That was about 6 months ago.

I feel somewhat better, but not great. The coughing, hoarseness, difficulty swallowing, and breathing difficulty is very disconcerting. I was also put on antidepressants but the side effects that made matters worse. My sleep is still disturbed and I wake up several times a night, sometimes in a panic, feeling like I can't breathe.

I had a multitude of money-sucking tests, all of which resulted in negative or clear results. I am 53 years old and used to run triathlons, but LPR has practically debilitated me. I will try some of the listed suggestions for help.

I bounce back and forth between weight loss and weight gain. I realize diet and weight management are important aspects of successfully battling LPR, but it is difficult to maintain ideal weight and fitness when symptoms are uncomfortable or severe. I'll keep on trying.

Replied by Katerose
Minnesota, US

I too have Laryngopharyngeal Reflux. I went to an Ear Nose and Throat specialist about 4-5 years ago due to the fact that I was losing my voice. Constant dripping of the nose and coughing all the time. Nexium seemed to work, but lately I am coughing more. I found out in the spring that I have sleep apnea too. Doing research, I found that the LPR can cause the apnea. I was waking up in the middle of the night having coughing fits. Finally went to a doctor who sent me in for a sleep study and now sleep peacefully!

Replied by Torch
Big Island, Hawaii

I've had this problem since 2008, so about 6 years. It's been very difficult to pinpoint and I've tried many different things. At the moment I'm seeing an acupuncturist/Chinese herbalist that is cleaning up my diet. She is very confident that it will work so hopefully it does and if so will keep others posted.

Replied by Pavan
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Hi Mark,

I think we are on same page. I have the same symptoms which you are suffering from. I'm 26 and I have been suffering from LPR since from last 1+ year. I been visiting different Allergy and Asthma Clinics they just suggesting me some inhaler but didn't really help me. Recently I visited an ENT doctor and he confirmed after the test that I have LPR. Do you have any suggestions and home remedies to get rid of LPR bit quicker?

I'm taking 2 spoons of unfiltered ACV with a glass of water for some relief. Please let me know if you have any better suggestions as home remedies.


Replied by Candy

Actually the ENT's were useless, it was my GP that diagnosed LPR. I am a singer and have lost my voice. this happened 18 yrs ago and now after a terrible smoke filled summer with fires It has happened again. Any correlation between LPR and Smoke Allergies?

Replied by Tammy

I have been to an ENT and GI doctor.... Waste of money , neither found my problem. ENT would not even do a scope. I have problem breathing, feels like something is stuck in my nose and can't get it's out.clearing throat. I do have acid reflux but I figured it out myself about having silent reflux.. Now I have a different diet and drink more water. Starting to feel better but ENT could of helped me ( went 3 times to see him)

Replied by Stacey
Los Angeles

David - I'd love to have the name of the ENT you recommend? I'm in L.A. and willing to drive. My GP keeps giving me lung and nasal steroids (I've had 4 appointments and cannot get her to send me to an ENT, but I will pay privately for someone good). I have every LPR symptom for 4 months of agony now.

EC: Sorry, David's post in from 2006 and he is unlikely to see it!

Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda  

Posted by Sasha (New York, Ny) on 03/16/2010

I am told I have silent acid relux.. no heartburn, but tightness in my throat, esophogeal spasms, excess mucus, hypersalivation, and anxiety from all of the above. Difficlut to belch, but when I do it seems to relive the symptoms a bit. It's as though its gas not acid that is causing the problem. It began a few months ago after a bout with bronchitis and asthma related symptoms. I used an albuterol inhaler and not sure if that inflamed my throat / esophogus. (not using anymore, no asthma symptoms) Was put on Prilosec by the ENT (didn't work), Acipehx by the GI (made the symptoms worse) and digestive enzymes by a homeopathic doctor (felt some burning in my tummy) I have given up coffee, wine, citrus, chocolate, tomatoes etc. Would like to know how I can determine if I have too much or too little acid? Is there a home PH test I can use? With the symptoms I described, do you think ACV with baking soda would work? Is aloe vera a good remedy (it has citric acid??) Look forward to some guidance here. My daughter is getting married in June and I really want to feel good by that time. Thanks in advance

Replied by Michelle
Germfask, Mi/usa

I also have silent reflux and have most of the above symptoms but I also lose my breathe when laughing. The doctor tells me it's just acid reflux. I don't get heartburn so it's the silent type. I would also like to know if I should use ACV or baking soda? Thanks everyone this is a great site.

Replied by Lee
Loxahatchee, Fl

I too have had similar problems and just went for a test called a manometry test. It measures the amount of PH being produced.

Replied by David M
Putnam, Connecticut, United States

To-Michelle from Germfask, Mi/usa, I am having the EXACT same issues as you I was wondering if you've gotten any relief or figured it out at all yet? I've started using just ACV, probably going to try it with baking soda as if the problem is LPR more acid is probably not the best option.

Replied by Nina
London, On, Canada

I have been recently diagnosed with LPR that I am not clear about. The issue is too little or too much acid. LPR meds block acid, but if someone has not enough acid, that would not be good. A home test with baking soda indicated that I have very little or almost no stomach acid, and I have been taking HCL supplement. My throat mucus is significally reduced (even though I am not clear on what brings the results), but my doctor claims I have LPR due to a loose tube. I am very confused as what is best to do (continue hcl or take the doctor's meds). If anyone knows, would appreciate your feedback.

Replied by Msg
Somewhere, Europe

What kind of home test did you do?

Replied by Catherine
New Hampshire

The home test I think is to use 1/4 tsp of baking soda in 6 oz. of water and drink it down. If you burn within 3 min, then you have ample stomach acid. If you go beyond 5 minutes, you have none.

Replied by Amy
Oklahoma, US

Sasha, Most natural health food stores should carry pH testing strips, and they're relatively cheap. I know Sprouts carries them, if you have one near you. Or, you might try Whole Foods, or another natural foods store.

Replied by Lynn
Cary, Nc

Question for Nina London, On, Canada: What do you mean by loose tubes?


Replied by Maddie

I have the strips but how do I use them? What should I be looking for?

Betaine HCL  

Posted by Grace (London) on 01/22/2015

Hi For 2 years I thought I had Gerd and was taking Betaine HCL with pepsin. Can Gerd change to LPR? Anyway during this month I have discovered I have LPR. The last two days I stopped taking the Betaine and feel much better. I was only taking one or two caps at night after my supper. Just as well. I have researched LPR on the internet and will radically change my diet. LPR is such a sneaky disease, no wonder it is called silent reflux. Hope this is helpful

Replied by Gratitude
Northeast, Usa

Hi Grace,

How long after your supper did you take the caps? Not sure but that might have something to do with it since Betaine HCL is supposed to be taken Before and With your meal but not immediately after. I made that mistake once and it was terrible. Now take it before or during meal and it helps so much with digestion.

Replied by Lisa

I had been taking Betaine for what I believed was low stomach acid. After taking it daily with lunch & dinner for about 3 months, I seemed to have developed LPR - and also Burning Tongue Syndrome (although it doesn't really burn- more like the sensation of having burned your tongue on food the day before - you know - that weird feeling). I stopped the Betaine today and am going to eat more carefully - sort of like a FODMAP diet and see how I do.

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Posted by Shanti (In) on 05/20/2018
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1 teaspoon of black seed oil mixed in honey. I had silent reflux for over a year and black seed oil stopped the mucus and sore throat in less than a week. It has also tighten skin pores. I apply only a little to my face at night and also where I have dry skin like bottoms of feet.

Posted by Enid (Santa Barbara, California) on 03/15/2014

I just learned about Black Seed oil. Supposedly one teaspoon works miracles for digestion, nausea, allergies etc. I am hoping it will help me with LPR. has anyone tried it? I am feeling terrible right now with that nausea feeling In my throat. I ordered the oil. Thanks, Enid

Replied by Brina
South Carolina

Did the black seed oil help?

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Posted by Hopeful (Va) on 12/01/2015
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Coconut Oil for LPR

Today is Dec 1, 2015. I am on my 8th day of taking a spoonful of pure coconut oil (cold-pressed). Since day 1 I have had great results. I am able to sleep at night. Last night I decided to eat 2 hours before bed just to see what would happened and to my surprise I had the best sleep in 8 days. I am taking 1 zantac 175mg first thing in the am (I purchased) cause the omeprazole that were prescribed to me caused me to have cough and gag.

I take my coconut oil 1 in the am and 1 in the pm or whenever I just feel like it. I will probably take the zantacs for 2-3 more weeks and see what happens without it. I would like to know what are some you guys triggers. I notice that when I eat chocolate (instantly), hotdogs, and red meat it goes wild. I have removed a lot of foods from my diet and I try to stick to veggies, fruits, and fish and chicken. For breakfast I normally eat turkey bacon and eggs. I do not drink milk at all. I drink water and green tea only. I tried my first key lime yogurt about 2 hours ago so I'll wait and see how that goes.

I think this site is awesome and hope that everyone will keep updating their journey to this annoying parasite.

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Posted by Deborah (Mendocino County, Ca) on 10/18/2018
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I started having LPR issues about a week ago. I have Hashimoto's thyroiditis, and I know how important diet is for relief of symptoms. I completely stopped all dairy, and my LPR is completely gone. I just thought this might help someone else.

Replied by Tasha
Los Angeles

Hi Deborah,

How is it going? Are you still off dairy?

I've had LPR for years. Recently, I've begun to suspect that dairy might be one of my triggers. The other might be sugar.

I'm curious to hear about your experience a few months on.

Thanks, Tasha


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Posted by Wendy (London, England) on 03/17/2014
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Lemon for LPR: Going on the description of the symptoms I have deduced I could be suffering from LPR. I was interested in drinking alkaline water what has been suggested. I also read you could add lemon to the water to make it alkaline.

After doing this, the change was amazing. The coughing stopped along with the excess mucus and wheezing. I put one tablespoonful to a tumbler of water and drank first thing in the morning and would drink more if coughing was a problem (hardly ever).

My question is this. On another site they have said do not take lemon as it can damage the throat or the pepsin (sorry not quite sure what they said now) and it will cause trouble. Can anyone clarify this for me? I cannot believe that something that has done so much good is possibly causing harm.

Replied by Jenifer
San Francisco

See my reply to Jody above. I link to an article that debunks much of the conventional medical 'wisdom' about reflux disease. For one thing, he says: "Raw organic apple cider vinegar (1-2 teaspoons daily) is extremely effective in reducing the incidence of GERD. At first glance, the use of this supplement appears counter-intuitive, since vinegar is a weak acid (5% acidity). Supplementation with a weak acid in a hyperacidic situation is, by definition, “homeopathic”.[10] Adding a small amount of acid back into the system (in the form of vinegar) can strengthen the tone of the LES. Supplementing with a variety of probiotics and a diet rich in prebiotics reinforces this biological symbiosis and fortifies digestion." I would assume the same is true of lemon juice.

Replied by Patty
Massachusetts, US

Check into Dr. Norm Robillard's Fast Tract Digestion for Heartburn book. Although it says Heartburn in the title, it's about both GERD and LPR. His findings are very interesting, and make a lot more sense than the prevalent medical advice. He recommends a total diet approach, and it's quite different than what most doctor's recommend. Look up the book on Amazon or his website (I think it's called Digestive Health Associates) in Massachusetts. Read what people are saying in the comments sections.

Replied by Susan
Doylestown Pa

The most frustrating thing about LPR is that the GIs don't even know much about it! I have been researching like crazy since I was diagnosed with Osteoporosis after being on the PPI drugs for 8 years! Don't stay on them! I have read a lot and the best book I have found so far about LPR is called "Killing me softly from the inside" By Dr. Jonathan Aviv, an ENT from NYC.

Lpr is treated differently from GERD, lemon juice and ACV are NO NOs because they will immediately trigger the pepsin molecules in your throat and cause LPR. For GERD, lemon and vinegar are good, because they become alkaline when metabolized and the best thing for any reflux sufferers is an alkaline diet. I also have low stomach acid, probably due to the PPIs I took for so long, but I can't seem to find a straight answer about taking them if you have LPR. I have been for the last 3 mos or so, noticed my voice has become even more hoarse. I am going to stop the HCL for a little while and see if my voice gets better. I have been to several GI specialists, one from a prominent Phila hospital, plus ENT, they are all wearing blinders! "Just take your PPIs and we'll rescope in 5 years!!

Replied by Jenifer
San Francisco

Susan, it is easy enough to undo any damage you think you may be doing to your throat by taking apple cider vinegar or other acidic drinks. Just gargle with baking soda or other alkaline substance. I gargle with turmeric in water with a pinch of salt. Works great. Also if you take HCL/pepsin in capsules, how can it hurt?

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Posted by Christine (Nottingham, England) on 06/19/2012

I have suffered from this condition for three years and have tried many remedies including cider vinegar, l gluthamine, slippery elm, liquorice, enzymes, and limonene. I started taking Marshmallow root two days ago. I am taking two capsules opened in a small amount of water three times a day, and it is working very well. My congestion and throat restriction is much less. And my stomach feels so much better. It is the best thing I have used. So for anyone suffering with this condition it may be worth trying it. I know it is a nasty problem, but do not give up. Best to everyone Christine.

Replied by Beckymessage
Shoreditch, Other, United Kingdom

Hi! I believe I have LPR. My GP didn't give me an examination or anything, just put me straight on PPIs. Previously I've had a GI ulcer (about 10 years ago), so I'm nervous about stomach-related probs. Also a singer so laryngyal probs are a worry too!

I've been trying probiotics, manuka, mastic gum, aloe, and a dairy and refined food-free diet but I'm still getting bad LPR symptoms.

I'm really interested to find out how the marshmallow root worked for you? Also, what you take daily during cure and if there's anything for maintainance?

Thank you so much!

Replied by Christine
Nottingham, England
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Hi Becky I am the lady that posted about Marshmallow root having had the same problem for three years. Like you, I have tried many things, marshmallow does help, however the problem is still there. I use two capsules opened and mixed with a little warm water twice a day. It may help to look at some sites that explain how high histamine levels can cause problems like this and how we need to heal the gut also the candida connection, Mine own problem is fermentation in the gut. If you google excessive histamine problems it will explain how some food contain high levels of histamine whilst other are histamine producing. Some food and drinks like alcohol block diamine oxidase which breaks down histamine. Chris Kressers site is a wealth of information on gut problems. Good luck and let us know how you get on. Christine

Replied by Timh
Louisville, Ky, Usa
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Here's a copy/paste from Swanson Foods web-site:

7 Foods That Are High in Histamine

1. Cheese, yogurt, buttermilk and other fermented milk products
2.Fermented meats like pepperoni or bologna
3.Sauerkraut and other fermented vegetables (see a pattern here?)
4. Alcohol, specifically fermented booze like beer, ale and wine
5.Tomatoes and cherries
6.Citrus fruits (oranges, lemons, limes and grapefruit)
7.The spices cinnamon, anise and nutmeg

Replied by Karen

Hi Becky, did you end up having any luck with any of the natural remedies you tried for your LPR? I too am a singer and I seem to have gotten my GERD under control with diet and exercise after going off the PPIs, but the LPR just keeps on coming back. I found a lot of similarities in our stories so I though I'd post and ask how you're doing, 4 years on. Thanks so much!

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Posted by Gail (Kingston, Ny) on 09/20/2017 10 posts

REMEDY NEEDED FOR LARYNGEAL GERD; I have in the past treated naturally stomach ulcer, kidney stone, cholecystectomy, and, although I take a very low does of Nexium (20)mg. I have no symptoms of GERD or acidity anywhere. I also use bicarbonate and Aloe Vera Gel: yet for two years have had debilitating sore throats constant with difficulty swallowing, changes in voice; and been diagnosed with acidity in the tissues of the larynx? Don't know why it is there, I am careful with diet, sitting after meals, etc, as a nurse I know all the recommended; yet the problem continues continually: PLEASE, an ENT gives me no answers: DOES ANYONE HERE KNOW ANYTHING I CAN DO? Thank you very much, Gail

Replied by Charity
Faithville, Usa

I know one thing. When stressed and producing cortisol the flap from the gut to the throat stays open. Eric Berg you tube.

Posted by Pari (San Jose, Ca) on 05/17/2016
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I wanted to thank you everyone on this LPR page for sharing their experience. Its truly a help. They day I was reading your comments I was so desperate and sad that its been 2 years that I am sick and I have not been able to do anything. Every morning I wake up with lots of mucus and cough. LPR and Sinus infection and 2 surgery so far!!! I am sure with your help I won't have the third surgery :)

I wanted to share with everyone things that has helped me instantly and I have seen improvement within just a few days.

1) Apple cider vinegar. It just works right away and stops my cough

2) probiotics - could see the difference within just 3 days

3) barley leaves powder. which does has iodine in it as well. You will see the difference within 2 days. I bought this one

4 ) Black seed oil. I have not seen much change within a few days, it might help longer time

5) Aloe vera. I just took the plant and put it in blender with honey and water and take 2 spoon a day. I can't say that it has been working as strong as barley leave and probiotics.

I have started these 5 items one by one and now I am taking them all together. It has just been a week but I see the difference.

Of course I have changed my diet completely. I have removed oil and red meat from my diet. I ate dinner at restaurant couple of times and it made my symptoms worse, even the vegetarian sushi! So I avoid eating outside. I think their stuff is old and not fresh. Even vegetarian food with no toping or sauce. Avoid eating outside for a while.

I recommend taking these lab works to see if you have any bacteria: Candida and Pylori. they both can cause LPR symptoms.

I am also taking the PPI pill once a day, 40ml. I have been taking the pill for a month now, did not see any changes until I added these 5 items to my diet.

If you have any other recommendations, please let me know. I hope everyone gets better soon! I know how hard dealing with this disease can be.

Replied by Tori
Regina, Sk Canada

How are you feeling now? Any new remedies or meds? What seems to work best for you?

Posted by Rose (Aurora, Co) on 01/27/2015
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I pretty much diagnosed myself before I went to see ENT, GI doc and my primary doc. After doing a lot of research, reading and understanding what I feel. I have Laryngopharyngeal Reflux and it was not fun. I experienced itchy throat, coughing especially when I am in bed, belching like over 50 times all day, feeling full when I eat a small amount of food or drinking water, regurgitate after eating, and tenderness in my stomach. I thought I had stomach cancer.

My ENT doesn't have any answers for me, but after several visits she gave me Omeprazole 40 mg which I didn't take. My GI doc did a procedure, endoscopy, but I was told to go back to my ENT. My primary doc doesn't have an answer to all my woes so I decided to do my own.

I have experimented several ways, I.e., I took the omeprazole 40 mg first thing in the morning like 6 am with a full glass of water (for 14 days only), then at 7 am I take digestive enzyme with a full glass of water, then I prep my juice consisting of cucumber, celery, green apple, 1/2 banana and half of beets. Then after two hours, I will have a small portion of oatmeal with the 1/2 banana and this will be my lunch. By 2 or 3 pm, I will make a veggies like lentils with cauliflower (I will chop the cauliflower into small pieces just like the lentils), kale chopped into small just like lentils (I used a small chopper), seasoned with salt and a little lemon. I eat the vegges also at dinner time like around 5 pm (remember very small portion like 1/2 cup) and drink water as much as I can which was very difficult because I feel so full and I feel my stomach was tender and swollen.

By 8 pm I took Probiotic 30 billion strain. I stopped taking omeprazole after two weeks. Somehow I was having problem. I have bad palpitation. I thought my heart wouldn't stop pounding, so I stopped the enzyme and probiotic bills. And I started drinking Kombucha and I feel like I'm drunk and the palpitation is even worse. I went to see my cardiologist and he told me my PVC is giving me a problem and to stop taking Kombucha and the herb pills.

One night I couldn't sleep and I start reading side effects and I forgot that I was taking Ambiene 1/3 to help me sleep and one side effect is heart palpitation so I decided not to take it that night and I must have fallen asleep at 3 am and woke up around 10 am without the sleeping pill. I continue my routine drinking the juice and this time I added 1 tsp of apple cider vinegar and a few slices of pineapple (I wild blend the pineapple and mix it to the juice) and adding a 3 tablespoon of the Good Belly probiotic drink and eating veggies like I usually do in small portions and to my surprise my palpitation is gone. So I guess it was from my sleeping pills, not from the enzyme and probiotic pills.

I don't eat chocs anymore, I quit my coffee, no acidic fruits like oranges and grapefruit, no junk foods, just clean eating. I just woke up one day that my problem is almost gone. I feel better. I don't feel my stomach is swollen, I don't regurgitate and I feel like almost normal. The only thing I am feeling right now is the mucous in my throat and the globus is gone. I an doing a gluten free diet and no ice cream and cakes and all that stuff. I am so glad. I feel 95% better. I am very careful on what I eat now. Hope this will help.

Replied by Bonnie

I have been suffering with LPR for 2 years and was never diagnosed. I have thought of suicide many times. I have been to the Er 4 times and given viscous lidocaine with Maalox. I have seen a gastroenterologist twice and had 2 endoscopies done. No findings. I saw 2 different allergists and they both thought allergies not bad enough to treat after 100s of needle pokes. I have seen 4 different ent doctors. I had a radio active dye swallow test done, a video strobe test I have had flexible tubes put down my throat on 3 occasions. Just last week I saw another ent Dr. This time I took a video along with me of me throwing up copious amounts of mucus, almost chocking to death. Unable to breathe mucus all over my fingers from trying to pull it out of my throat. It has been 2 years of this. The doctor put another flexible scope down my throat but this time into the larynx. She saw the mucus in my larynx. She said I have LPR. She put me on 40 mg of Prilosec and 300 mg of ranitidine. Said come back in 2 months that was 1 week ago, no better yet. This has been hell, many times I think I won't make it through the night. That I will stop breathing. This is cruel and unusual treatment that I have been getting from these doctors for 2 years. They are doctors and should have known what I have long ago. Perhaps I will get better this time. If I remain alive long enough for this current medications begins to work. Thanks for listening.

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc

Hello Bonnie;

Re your Reflux nightmare.

You have suffered greatly. I too had reflux and cured mine. Here is what I did and maybe something I say will help you.

First; I had never been told that Reflux can be greatly agitated by diet. I cut WAY back on acidic foods. No red meat after 1pm. No coffee.

No large meals after 5 pm. Better if only fruit after 7pm. Also I'd take three tablespoons of high quality Aloe Vera daily on an empty stomach and two tablets of DGL (licorice extract). Those last two can help chronic acidic burn problems.

Second; I found that twice a day am and pm if I'd take two tablespoons of Apple Cider Vinegar in a glass of water and add one third teaspoon of baking soda, that that drink would help the digestive process.

Third; I guessed that there might be a gastric upset similar to an ulcer...maybe bacterial or viral. So I took two tablespoons of Colloidal Silver twice daily on an empty stomach to kill such invaders assuming a gastro type infection just might be at work.

But mainly I attacked the problem on the level of diet and ACV.

I'd eat lots of vegetables and get off wheat products because you may have a gluten problem.

NO chocolate (an irritant)...NO milk.....NO carbonated drinks. NO cheeses....

And add probiotics daily....digestive enzymes.

That's what I did.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando

Hi Bonnie...If you want to reduce your nocturnal reflux problems then just take 1/2 to 1 tsp of sodium bicarbonate(baking soda -- Arm & Hammer brand) in a full glass of water one hour before you go to bed. Then you should have a peaceful nights sleep.

And if you want to actually cure your reflux problems then just take this remedy. All explanations are in the link.

Your problem is low stomach acid not high stomach acid. But taking Prilosec will reduce your stomach acid to zero which means that all manner of pathogens -- including bacteria, viruses, parasites and fungus -- will have a free pass to infect your intestines and create even more autoimmune hell for you. Stop taking the Prilosec!!

And if I were you I would take the FULL GERD protocol in the link above -- don't just take the pancreatin and betaine HCL. Both the iodine and the sea salt in the remedy should also help to greatly reduce your mucus problems.

Replied by Oscar
Syracuse, New York

Dear Bonnie: I have this problem myself. At times I feel like I am drowning in my own mucus or whatever these fluid are called. I just go through it and keep coughing up said fluids.

For temporary relief: CODEINE does work for me. But it must be used ONLY when you can not take it any more. Chronic use of CODEINE can make this problem even worse.

But when you are drowning in your own fluids, temporary relief is worth a lot.

In conclusion: Codeine does work in the short term ONLY....Oscar

Replied by Kim Lambert
Cincinnati Ohio
5 out of 5 stars

Hi, I am new to this site but just wanted to tell you that I am anxious to try your remedy as I have been dealing with LPR undiagnosed for years thinking it was all allergy/sinus related. I have had sinus infections for years and had sinus surgery in 2012. I also am a chronic ibuprofen user. Chocolate and caffeine have been my heroes for years until now. They are the culprit and part of why I got into this mess. Thanks for all the advice, I look forward to healing:)

Replied by Alfonso
Upland, Ca
5 out of 5 stars

How are you doing now? I need help, I'm going crazy.

Replied by Richama
Miami, Fl

How long did it take you to heal from LPR? I was so inspired by your determination to heal yourself. You are so lucky that you have all that time to experiment with different things.

Replied by Jacob
4 out of 5 stars

Hey all. Diet, like others are talking is hugely important for recovery. For me, sleeping inclined it even more important. I would be a mess without doing that. I got the LINX about 1.5 years ago and it greatly helped. I had GERD and LPR. GERD is gone completely (at least the sensation of heartburn), but enough still comes up that it hits the throat. This is where inclined sleep helps, and diet is the other part of the solution. Also, High pH water helps deactivate any acid/pepsin (stomach enzyme) in your throat. This happens above about 8-8.5 pH. I use alkaline water drops, found online. Wish you all the best.

Replied by Joy

Your message is very helpful. thank you for sharing. I have just been diagnosed with LPR. My doctor had me take omeprazole and I had an allergic reaction to it. The doctor now told me to take zantac. My question to you is how long did it take for your globus to go away? This is what is most uncomfortable for me right now.

Replied by Lucy
Biloxi, Ms

I'm interested in knowing if LINX decreased the severity of your acid reflux symptoms at all?

Replied by Crystal

Has this bettered you significantly? How long does it go away for? I am in desperate need. I sneeze and have tingles in my scalp and forehead too.

Replied by John Keefe
Red Bank Nj

All of the things you mentioned must have reached its tipping point. With me the voice is the most distressing. Now that it's been some time since your post and I have taken far too long to get to this diagnosis. What do you say to someone at the front end of this journey?

Replied by Suparas

Which alkaline water drops u use I am from India and suffering from LPR for almost 4 years

Replied by Anthony
Manhattan Beach

It took about two years and several mis-diagnosis by ENT's to finally confirm that I have LPR. I'm taking Omeprazole in the AM and Zantec before bed. I've seen some improvement, but I don't know if it's because of the medication or my change in diet. I have stopped eating or drinking anything that is acidic. Does anyone know of a natural remedy? I'm concerned about the long term affects of Zantec and Omeprazole.

Replied by Bill

Hi Anthony...The problem you have is probably caused by low stomach acid. You are currently taking Omeprazole(Prilosec?) and Zantec which is really the direct opposite of what you should be doing to resolve your problems. Both of these drugs are proton pump inhibitors that are quite unhealthy to take. PPI's don't just lower your stomach acid a little bit -- taking them will completely stop acid production in your stomach -- this is very dangerous because one of the major reasons you have stomach acid is to kill all dangerous pathogens incoming with the food you eat. So no stomach acid means no protection and more illness for you down the line.

As I've said, the reflux problem you have is probably due to low stomach acid production in the stomach. If you want verification then you should ask your doc for the Heidelberg Test. This simple test will tell you if your stomach acid is low or not. I would urge you to take this test and get yourself off those PPI's otherwise you will be helping all sorts of pathogens into your intestines which may later result in further problems or illness for you.

Try typing this in Google search: "Reflux low stomach acid" and read what you find. It will surprise you.

If your stomach acid is low then you should also read and follow the protocol in this link to resolve your reflux problem.

Posted by Mark (Newton Abbot, Devon) on 01/16/2012

Hello, I just wanted to drop by and finally say hello and maybe post a question if possible.

As a lifelong natural health advocate I have been addicted to the is site for many, many months now, a great deal of the info was not new to me, but so much more is, after many months of just browsing I finally decided to register and drop by to say hello, over the next few months I will try to find the time to offer some of my knowledge that should help others to fix various conditions, ( I have read certain posts that I think I can help with)

Right now I do have a question that you may want to post in the above section.

I popped my L5 disc in my back earlier this year from squatting (bodybuilding) and was told I needed surgery to fix it, I refused and decided to help it heal naturally (which it has done) the one mistake I made was to listen to the doc who told me to use ibuprofen for a few weeks to get past the worst of it, like a fool I did and ended up with wheezing / asthma which has passed with the help of a liquorice and a slippery elm supp, but now I have silent reflux which comes and goes throughout the day, I have no doubt that this was caused by the drugs as I have never had a problem with it prior, I am treating it again with the liquorice supp but wanted to ask if anyone knows how to tell if I now have ulcers, I have no stomach pain, I did have gas and bloating a few weeks back but this has now subsided and I am left with the LPR only, I believe I can treat it with the following.

Liquorice 3 - 4 x daily

slippery elm 3 - 4 x daily

high strength probiotics daily

digestive enzymes daily.

No sharp or crunchy food whilst healing to prevent aggravation to LES valve.

Manuka honey 3 x daily to help heal the LES valve

No onions whilst healing (My favourite! they may relax the LES valve a little.)

Liver detox to ensure adequate bile flow for acid formation.

My only uncertainty is whether or not the drugs have caused ulcers or just general damage to my stomach lining, if I have ulcers I can treat them easily but with a different approach (or they may just heal on their own ) to that above and without enzymes, (if I have ulcers they are likely only caused by inflammation and not virus related) does anyone know how to determine if ulcers are present without blood or stomach pain?

Once I have succeeded in fixing this ailment I will put all the info together for all those hundreds of others who are also suffering from the nasty side effects of using ibuprofen and other NSAID,

I have a pretty clear understanding of what has happened due to using the drugs but I am not sure if ulcers are present, other than blindly treating them first (which may be unnecessary) I do not know of a diagnostic method to determine their presence as I have never had them before. I see no point in visiting a GP to be offered more drugs (proton pumps etc. ) often they do no more than look at you with that mocking grin take an educated guess and offer drugs based on that, I can do better than that on my own!

Any tips would be useful, Thanks Mark

Replied by Timh
Louisville, Usa
2115 posts

Mark, be careful with the Licorice as it can cause HBP. I used to never have any probs with it until just recently and have narrowly escaped two critical episodes of HBP without stroke or heart attack, not exclusively but primarily because of Licorice. I would recommend trading it for DGL form as it cannot cause hyperelivation of Aldosterone.

You have not listed the critical Zinc/Vit-A in your protocol for healing. Baking Soda and or Sea Salt are good to take Prior to the other supplements and meals to buffer any excess acid.

I wear a Magnetic Belt over my tummy region with very good results.

Symptoms of ulcers may include stabbing pain in the tummy region, bloating, blood in stools, diarrhea or constipation, vomiting. I have long had this kinds of probs but never diagnosed w/ ulcer. It sounds like simply gastritis (which can be severe in itself).

Hope this helps and good luck.

Replied by Mark
Newton Abbot, Devon Uk
5 out of 5 stars


Tim H, Thanks for the reply, I obviously do not have ulcers based on your description.

No problem with the liquorice and blood pressure issue I check it daily and mine is always spot on -low from a hectic fitness / bodybuilding and clean diet life style,

Good news to anyone interested,

My suspicions were correct in that the ibuprofen damages both the gut mucus membrane and also healthy bacteria, this is what I believe happens and my programme should fix many others with reflux issues permanently.

The ibuprofen (in my case) acts similar to antibiotics in that they destroy a fair amount of essential healthy bacteria in the gut and gi track, but ibuprofen also cause severe damage and inflammation to the stomach mucus membrane which governs the quantity and strength of stomach acid, as the membrane has been damaged it is no longer able to produce enough strong enough acid in the stomach, and this is where the problem lies because the acid strength controls the closing strength of the LES valve through the nervous system, the acid MUST be strong enough to digest food properly in order to produce a strong nerve signal to close the valve tightly after each mouthful of food has entered the stomach, if the acid is low or weak the valve will not close properly and depending on the severity this will cause acid to leak up into the throat area causing either full on heart burn, acid reflux or silent reflux the first two conditions are usually obvious but with silent reflux the cause is not always obvious as the symptoms are often little more than the feeling of a lump in the throat area near the voice box some discomfort may be felt in the ears and chest area and the voice may be week on occasion but generally the problem is not always associated with reflux.

If this seems to describe your situation you need to repair the gut and throat membrane whilst repopulating the gut with healthy bacteria, the plan above is how I did it in 3 - 4 days! Anti-acids will never fix this problem they can only make it worse as the acid is already to weak to close the LES obviously weakening the acid even more is not the answer.

So this was the cause of my acid reflux (initially) and then silent reflux (later)

My simple programme detailed above has sorted my problem in a few days! About a week has since past and all is well : - ) this was really bugging me for months so it demonstrates that a designated treatment programme is required to fix it

The only extra item I added was a few drops of aloe juice in my liquorice drink.

I intend to follow the programme for several more weeks to ensure a fully rebuilt gut environment.

It should be mentioned that my diet is and always has been spot on and healthy with lots of raw fruit and veg, if you do not eat this way you may not experience the same results as I did on this programme, remember that the healthy raw food is a major part in fixing this problem, I suspect the reflux for many is actually caused by poor diets as this alone is likely to cause inflammation and damage to the gut in much the same way as the ibuprofen did for me (and the hundreds of others on this site).

So clean up your diet and then follow the steps above and acid reflux will cease to exist.

Good luck!


Replied by Marina
Cresskill, Nj

Mark, it seems I have the same symptoms: feeling of lump in the throat and lots of muccus that makes me choke sometimes. Not sure how these symptoms started: lots of stress, and headaches for which I took ibuprophen at times. I exercise everyday and my diet excludes all things harmful that ever mentioned that should be avoided in case of LPR. I exercise 5 days a week, I eat fruits and vegetables, but suspect my diet is not balanced. I eat much less during the week and then I overeat on weekend. I have 1 cup of coffee and 1 cup of tea a day and 2 glasses of wine on weekend. I saw GI who suspected LPR and sent me to see ENT. ENT never did any tests but prescribed medication to try for a couple of month which I haven't taken in hopes I will find a natural remedy. Your plan seems like a solution but it needs to be designed on individual basis. I was wondering if you could provide me with more detail or suggest who is best to talk to (natural healer, etc) and how do I find one? I am planning to see certified oriental medicine doctor and acupuncturist, would he offer comparable solution? Thank you. Marina

Replied by Karen

Hi Mark, I was intrigued to find this a couple of days ago, as I've had very similar symptoms to you, just been diagnosed with LPR, after having taken Ibuprofen for a few weeks to relieve inflammation from 8 weeks of laryngitis, I'm normally (and have always been) a really healthy- rarely get ill, work out and eat very well.. I've signed up to join in the discussion, pass on anything I find useful. Hello to all - and warm wishes- Karen

Replied by Mark
Newton Abbot., Devon, Uk

Hi all, I put my plan together earlier this year as detailed above and it worked great to rid my symptoms of LPR all has been fine for many months up until recently when I decided to experiment with a new batch of colloidal silver that I make and take daily, this time I added an air blower and made what I now know to be a much more potent brew than all of my previous versions, anyhow I continued to take my little daily dose as I have done for many years with great success (no colds bugs or anything for 10 years) trouble is now this new batch is obviously much more potent and has acted as though I have been on strong antibiotics for the past few weeks and now I have the throat pain return as it did many months back, based on this outcome.

I am now treating it with The same basic remedy as suggested by Ted in the thrush section, it seems only too obvious that the silver has killed off a lot of my friendly flora and allowed thrush to populate the back of my throat (which normally has friendly bacteria living there) from experience it can take a few months to completely eliminate thrush/candida and repopulate the healthy flora, my reason for writing this is to advise if you have throat discomfort and are unsure of the cause it may be caused by thrush/ candida that has spread from an unbalanced internal terrain. I do recall having this same felling many, many years back after taking doxycycline antibiotics for a tick bite that caused Lyme disease, I treated it successfully by using H202 for several months followed by high strength probiotics for many weeks, I will follow Teds schedule and report back in a few months.

Also I see someone has commented upon the fact that anxiety etc. seems to make it feel worse, this is also the case for me at the moment, even though I am chilled, being tired or eating can niggle it, the discomfort is always reduced to nil each morning after awakening but gradually it returns as the day progresses, this is exactly how it felt many years back when I treated it as thrush/ candida.

My lessons here are twofold, 1) my new method for making strong and effective silver works like a charm! , 2) don't mess about with a healthy body! I hope this post can be helpful to some of you suffering with LPR or undiagnosed throat discomfort.

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc

Mark, I too have used colloidal silver for many years. I see that you make it yourself as do I and have for 18 years with great success, like you. But you mentioned something I'm not familiar with. You said you used an "air blower" and I would appreciate you explaining just what and how that works. I just use 2 cups of filtered water heated to 90 degrees with ten grains of sea salt to give conductivity. In six or seven minutes after submerging silver "rods" using 27 volts I have a base which I then dilute (five dilutions at least until the silver cannot be seen with the naked eye). So what is that air blower about?

Replied by Cora
Providence, Ri

Mark, How is your reflux these days? Are you better? What helped in the end? I started with a bitter taste in my mouth almost 4 weeks ago and I've come unhinged about it. That's now lead to other upper GI issues, including heartburn and indigestion. I am now on PPI, upon docs recommendation. I think it's making things worse, but am afraid to stop and don't know how to proceed. I tried ACV, but it burned. Perhaps the tissue is still too raw. I think this came about from NSAIDS too.

I'm taking slippery elm, l-glutamine, zinc carnosine, marshamallow root, fresh aloe juice, fresh cabbage juice, and probiotics. Nothing has helped thus far.

You seem to have a great understanding of the body. Can you suggest anything else for me? Dietary and otherwise?

All the best.

Replied by Mark
Newton Abbot Devon, Uk

To David from Greenville,

Sorry for the late reply but I only check on here every now and then!

I only ever use distilled water when making colloidal silver, I did try making it with tap water many years back and each batch would turn a grey or ugly looking brown colour, I also used to use a little salt and warm the water, but soon learned that this too would produce a murky coloured (impure) batch I soon determined that the impurities in the water and salt were causing this so moved over to using distilled water instead, for many years I carried on heating the water and have been happy with my slightly yellowish looking blend it has always worked as intended, With regards the air blower I had been browsing on line for some time and kept reading about better mixes occurring from agitated water, I determined a small fish tank air blower left bubbling into the mix would be ideal and cheap to try this method, I no longer heat the water and now run my little silver generator for around 60 -75 mins (instead of 30 -40 mins without the blower) previously the mix would have turned yellow the longer it was left forming, obviously due to larger silver particles forming and scattering light through the mix, but now with the blower bubbling in the water it stays 100% clear and can be left running for longer, when I analysed the final mix I determined that the blower was keeping the silver particles from globing together and thereby producing a much smaller particle and a more powerful mix I now believe my brew to be as good as if not better than most expensive commercial products and for this reason I now use it in far less quantities, Incidentally this information and the basic instructions are now available on line if you decided to search for more information on how to put it all together, Hopefully this will help you

To Cora from Providence

I no longer suffer with LPR or any of the related issues linked to it, I personally would never take a PPI or NSAID unless it was a life of death situation, they are not the answer to good health in my opinion, certainly not long term, I believe your symptoms will fade away over time, as I mentioned in my original post the NSAIDS really do mess the body up and this takes time to repair, I do not eat anything processed or non-organic ever and this probably helps speed up healing (along with my protocol above) I also think a couple of spoonful's of organic honey daily can help reduce the symptoms, this issue caused from NSAID damage does take a little time to fix but just like a broken bone, week by week the body will repair the damage done and get you back where you should be, patience is essential, if you had a broken arm you would relax and not fret over it whilst healing for 6 weeks or so, learn to relax, maybe obtain a hypnotherapist relaxation CD this will probably help you far more than the drugs you are using, focus on other non-related issues rather than fret and worry about the LPR etc. , the more we fret and worry about these ailments the more anxious we become and anxiety definitely slows or prevents our healing, think about those who suffer from IBS and other similar digestive track issues, these are often caused by nothing more than anxiety, just relax and be patient and your symptoms will no doubt slowly fade away as the body repairs the damage done. Good luck

Replied by Cora
Providence, Ri

Mark, Thank you for your response. You're right about being patient. It's so important, but very difficult for me right now. I'm starting a daily routine of meditation and exercise this week. These are two things that have always been difficult for me to commit to, although I truly understand their importance in healing the mind and body.

I did stop the PPIs about 3 weeks ago. It helped a lot with the indigestion, but I'm still experiencing heartburn and occasional bitter taste. I never had reflux symptoms other than the taste before starting the meds.

I did have an endoscopy done. It showed mild gastritis, that is healing. My esophagus is fine. Now I think stress is my biggest issue, and maybe low stomach acid. ??

Did you ever supplement with HCl or ACV? I'm leary because of irritated tissue, but I wonder if it could help. I'm currently taking DGL, Slippery Elm, Marshmallow, and Manuka honey 3X/day.

I think there's progress, but it is slow. I just started a gluten-free, dairy-free diet this week, but I don't think gluten is an issue for me. Do you abstain from gluten?

I find it difficult to figure out what to eat to satisfy the sort-of burning hunger I get throughout the day. Bread and oatmeal always seem to make me feel better. Meat and fats are the worst offenders right now. This is tough, because I'm used to a low-carb lifestyle.

I actually think the liver and gallbladder are involved now, especially gallbladder. Over the past 3 weeks, I've developed pain between my shoulder blades. It improves with magnesium oil and massage, but acts up when I eat something with high fat or meat.

You mentioned doing a liver cleanse. I don't want to do anything too harsh, but need to do something. Do you have suggestions? Sorry to keep asking so much of you, but you seem very knowledgeable. Lastly, did you find the colloidal silver to be neccesary for healing this issue?

Thanks so very much!

Replied by John
Rolling Meadows, Il, Usa

Hi Mark, yours is a story that offers great hope for me. I have been suffering post nasal drip and throat clearing for several months now. The throat clearing usually gets worse after eating and many times produces clear phlegm. All signs of LPR. I also burp more often then usual and sometimes I feel my throat tighten up after eating some different foods. I was hoping to get a few details on how you went with your method. I can't take this suffering anymore. Recently I have been changing my diet but about a week ago I have had this feeling in the bottom of my throat. Started when I added cayenne to my food. Never had a problem though before my symptoms. Up till now I still have a sense of oddity in my throat but it seems to be subsiding. Whats also weird is that a few weeks ago I also started producing less saliva. I don't know if this is associated with LPR. I am desperate and have no money or insurance. Could you tell me more details on the program you took? Like how strong your probitics were, and what digestive enzymes you used? I would like to follow exactly what you did. I strongly believe in giving it a good chance. Thank you in advance.

Replied by Mark
Newton Abbot, Devon
5 out of 5 stars

For a quick overview to those who seem to be struggling with this annoying ailment (LPR)

My remedy was mostly based around my diet which if you have read all my posts you will notice how much I mention this, I cannot stress how important it is to fix your diet to heal properly, sure we can all get by on a substandard diet but healing requires more than this.

To be completely honest I only really suffered with this ailment for a short period and for the reasons already stated, I hardly remember the episode to date, but I will try to explain what I did to remedy my LPR

  • I always eat a huge amount of fresh enzyme and nutrient rich food daily but whilst treating the LPR I increased this even more, everything I ate/ eat is organic.
  • I upped my intake of Kiwi fruit to around 6 -8 daily I eat the skin as well, this is very rich in nutrients, just trim each end and eat them!
  • Papaya fruit, around -1 whole prepared fruit daily
  • Pineapple 1/4 -1/2 daily
  • The 3 fruits above are all a very rich natural sources of enzymes used daily by our bodies, essential for good health. I only ate fruit/veg for my source of enzymes, no capsules were taken
  • Other raw fruit and veg by the bucket load, literally! Apples, pears, blackberries, strawberries, oranges, peaches, etc. , if it grew like it I ate it
  • Veg, some raw some cooked, cabbage carrots, potatoes, kale, parsnips etc. , if it grew like it I ate it.
  • Salads, celery, tomatoes, cucumber etc. , as long as it grew like it I ate it
  • Also plenty of essential oils daily, Hemp oil, flaxseed oil, olive oil etc. Along with lots of oily fish
  • I also took high strength probiotics, 50 million per capsule 8 -10 caps per day. (search on line)

Please remember, I do not, have not, did not and will never consume anything man made, my lifelong philosophy is that if was made in a plant leave it alone, if it grew on a plant eat it, simple really, so - I do not drink- fizzy pop s?*T, alcohol (processed sugar cr*&p), candy bars, biscuits, cheaply made crappy cereal bars etc. Etc. , I think you get the point! , I rarely eat bread , oats pasta etc. , but as my wife loves baking I do occasionally- just to show her how much I appreciate her efforts have to indulge in a homemade perfectly sourced ingredients, slice of bread or spicy bun (but I only eat these on a predetermined higher carb day) I would never eat a shop bought loaf of bread.

The only things I added to my diet as detailed in my original post were, slippery elm, liquorice and the honey this is all it took to repair my damage. But as I keep saying my diet was probably responsible for most of my healing, you only have to look at it to realise just how much good stuff is in there.

Fix your diets, maintain this for a minimum of 6 months (or for life ideally) and you should expect your symptoms to fade away


Replied by Mark
Newton Abbot, Devon

Oh by the way my post further up states that I did not think I had ulcers, unfortunately the ibuprofen did give me ulcers, very nasty ones, they came on with a vengeance, ruined our holiday and lasted for months! , I could not eat much and lost a lot of weight, I did not take any drugs for them instead I tried a few natural remedies and finally fixed them with cayenne pepper, all has been well now for around 8 months or so! Moral here stay well away from the drugs!

Replied by Mark
Newton Abbot

To John from Rolling Meadows and anyone else still searching for answers for throat clearing and post nasal drip you might want to read the post on this site under Cyst, scroll down to multiple remedies and read the whole post especially part 3 dated 01/20/2008 by Robert from Naples, much of his post has very useful information that may be helpful to treat your condition, maybe earth clinic will want to put Part Three: Chronic Sinusitis into this section (LPR) Good luck and God bless everyone gets well.

EC: Check out the 4th thread here. Robert is responding to a post from FT of Ridgewood, NJ.

Replied by Usagirl
Los Angeles

Mark from Newton Abbot!! Please help me :( I can't take this anymore more and can't live my life like this no more and have put major events in my life on hold bc of this misery. I had surgery.. And was on strong antibiotics for 1 week. Took midrolpack for a week. Took vicodin once or twice. And took Ibuprofen for like a week or something forgot. But omg I am choking when I wake up in morning and my whole esophagus hurt and hurt when laugh. And my voice started to hurt. Anyhow doctors are pointless and just gave me aciphex took it for week. Made it worse I almost choked with acid and pain eating an apple. Anyhow for a month I took dgl pills, slippery elm tea 1x daily. Aloe shots here and there. Lots of vege drinks. And on an acid reflux diet. The alkaline and acidic diet is driving me crazy bc its hard to know if certain fruits will do more damage than heal. I feel a bit better since naturally healing myself. It's been a month but im not 100% healed and very uncomfortable throughout the day :(

Reading your post gave me hope. Thank you soo much for sharing, you have no idea.

How many months did you take the DGL Liquorice for? Also the slippery elm? 1-2 months? Anylonger wouldnt that be a lil too much.

Also im eating lots of homemade yogurt and want to try kefir milk in smoothie for the good bacteria. Or am I just irratating my throat. Did you have diary?

Im taking probiotics and heard should take for 2 weeks, But you took it longer? Is it safe. How many months you recommend?

You eat pineapple and kiwi, isn't that acidic. Did you follow the alkaline diet. Its really frustrating me. Is it necessary?

How many months it took for you to 100% lose all this annoying nightmare throat and espohagis symtoms to go away and eat freely what you want without any problems or anxiety??

Replied by Timh
Ky, Usa
2115 posts

It's almost impossible for the body to heal from any kind of injury without adequate levels of Zinc. Zinc, among other minerals, is severely deficient in the modern western diet. For this situation I would recommend zinc 50-100 mg daily w/ 10,000 iu Vit-A. Also Zinc Lozenges will help immediately.

Replied by Debbie

Timh, you should research herbs. We are deficient in minerals because our food does not contain them. Our food also has additives which deplete minerals from our bodies. We are eating too much processed foods that have no nutritional value. When you cook vegetables they lose most of their nutritional value. Most of the nutrition we get from meat is actually from the grasses or food that they eat.

Pasteurized milk because it has been heated does not contain the minerals we need. Then calcium is added in but it is inorganic so your body cannot use it. That is why people are getting osteoporosis (lack of calcium) even though they drink milk.

I too thought like you that zinc (or any minerals) in any form would be good but there is a difference between organic (from plants) and inorganic (non organic). Non organic means that it has been heated so that the body cannot assimilate it or that it is basically dead and also the body cannot assimilate it.

Minerals are better taken in the natural form also because they are in the correct ratios. On the mineral wheel if you look at it, too much of one mineral will deplete the body of other minerals. I can't refer you to any websites unfortunately but if you search yourself (even youtube) there is a lot of information about herbs.

Replied by Timh
Ky, Usa
2115 posts

@Debbie: The single best method of replacing or providing the mineral deficient diet is Ionic Trace Minerals which is sold in dry encapsulated or tab form and liquid form; I personally use both. Contains 72 of the major and trace minerals mined from Great Salt Lake in Utah.

Replied by Mark
Newton Abbot Uk

Usagirl from Los Angeles, I am really sorry to hear how you are suffering, I am not sure exactly how much more I can do, in my attempt to help, my previous posts covers my personal experiences and remedies but things may be different in your case, but my initial thoughts based on your post are, are you saying that you had surgery on your throat or elsewhere?

If you had surgery on your throat then naturally things will take a while to settle down again, just try to stick to a sensible and healthy clean diet that will assist the body in healing, this is going to take a little while

If you had surgery elsewhere (not on your throat) and the drugs and antibiotics were used because if this then it seems clear that your natural flora in both your gut and in your oesophagus has been disturbed if this is the case this need re-establishing in order to stop the candida or thrush that appears to have proliferated in your throat area, this has happened to me before, it took me quite some time to learn exactly what the cause was, the pain was very extreme after a long course of antibiotcs for lyme disease, my remedy was to use an oxygen based product based around H202, the one I like is mentioned elsewhere on this site (under candida I believe) and is produced by a company called Phoenix Nutritionals ltd ( or ‘'bird rising from the ashes + nutritionals'' if EC delete the name! ) it needs to be taken for around 8 -12 weeks with breaks for intense probiotic rebuilding to achieve the desired results, my advice would be to contact the company, Dr whiting- from memory, and explain your circumstances for a better assessment of your condition.

In the meantime try to learn to relax and focus your attention on other aspects of your life safe in the knowledge that this is just a small problem and a blip in your health situation, it will get better, just relax best you can, check out some relaxation video on you tube and start to reduce your anxiety, this will be a very big help in many ways.

God bless you get well swiftly

Replied by Lynn
Cary, Nc

To Mark from Newton Abbot. Hi Mark, I saw your recommendation for Laryngeal reflux posted 1-16-12. Tried it twice a day for 4 days. 5th day didn't feel like my body could take it. Borderlining diarrhea. Not normal for me. The only symptom I have is the laryngeal reflux that comes up. Had it almost 5 years. I do also have IBS. Getting ready to do a manometry & PH study. I am willing to do the surgery if absolutely necessary but would love to find an alternative. Do you have any other suggestions? Have definitely followed the diet recommended. Also, do you have any thoughts on Castor Oil packs? Been reading about this & wondering if it could help?

Thanks, Lynn

Replied by Anupa

Hello Mark,

The whole thread has been very informative. Thanks. But a bit confusing cause we talking about many diseases besides reflux. I have a lot of throat mucus (too much) . I believe that I need friendly bacteria which are all destroyed whilst on antibiotics ( 3 courses after an operation) please correct me if I am wrong So basically I should be having?

1) lots enzyme contain fruits. 2) probiotics . 3) honey. 4) fresh vegetables. Avoid all artificial foods. Shelf cooked foods.

Should I stop having milk ? which is also described by many as bad for mucus. And what else would you suggest ? And what about carbohydrates and protein which is necessary for the body. I am quite a vegetarian. And sometimes eat chicken and fish but have gone off realising that all our meat comes from China. And we don't know how it's produced. What do u suggest?

God bless you!!! You are better than any doctor. Regards Anupa.

Replied by Maddie

Same here with the ibuprofen. I had a sinus infection which turned into a cough. It affected my lower back (pain and stiffness) I started taking large doses of ibuprofen for the back pain and once the cold was over I noticed that I was having a dry cough that was accompanied with throat mucus, which I have never experienced before. After much reading I concluded that it was LPR probably due to the ibuprofen. I'm following some of the recommendations on this site. Coconut oil, baking soda gargling, digestive digestives enzymes and licorice root. Will give up coffee, chocolate and dairy for a while.

Replied by Karen
New Zealand

Hi Mark. All I can say is thank you so much. I too was adamant my PND was not allergies or sinus problems as I never had a stuffy nose or blocked sinuses. My Dr didn't believe me that ibuprofen would be the cause. She prescribed so many pills, sprays, liquids to dry me up, just made it worse. In desperation I trolled the internet looking for validation. I have always been a clean eater and regular exerciser so changing my diet to just fruit, veges, eggs, fish and chicken with a probiotic, enzyme tablets was not a hard ask, and another item which no one has mentioned Kawakawa tea, my symptons have almost gone, I am hoping another week and I will be symptom free. Anyone wanting to know about the tea should google it, it is from the kawakawa tree, also known as the pepper tree. NZ Maori have used it for many years for digestive problems, coughs, bronchial and mucus problems. My first cup and that night my throat was not tight and swollen and not so much thick mucus. Anything that helps has got to be a good thing, right? Karen.

Replied by Karen
Leesburg Vs

Did you have an inflammed throat from the acid? That is what I have and it is causing the lump in throat sensation for 2 months! I am a vegetarin and can no longer eat salads or raw veggies everything has to be cooked. I am miserable depressed always are great fresh organic foods and this all happened after a upper endoscopy to find nothing! I am about to give up!

Replied by Bella F Ali
Melbourne, Aus

Hi Mark, I don't know if you still following this thread. I was diagnosed with helico, gastritis and bleeding in stomach through Endoscopy. I took antibiotics in Sep 2016. Went through a horrible period of anxiety panic attacks after thst..felt bit better in nov 2016 and now in December 2016 anxiety is back..unable to sleep...have LPR...fumes like hot air comes in my nose...some very stubborn thick phlegm stuck in throat which doesn't go away. Breathing feel tight difficult..post nasal drip. I started seeing naturopath couple months ago ... she got me on probiotics...gastro aid...zinc etc...she thinks phlegm in throat is my body detoxing cleansing itself...I drink 3 l water a day... anyway I m.miserable...very bad anxiety keep thinking about my health...my stuffy tight throat..my breathing..I am miserable. Please help! I hope you are out there reading this post and will get back to me soon. Thank you.

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe

Bella, how about starting with h2o2 inhalations?

Replied by Donna

If you use DGL ..deglycyrrhizinated licorice it will not harm blood pressure. My Naturapath just told me this yesterday.

Replied by Gypsy

Thanks for your information. Since my acid is going up to my throat causing lots of irritation is it still ok to eat the fruit/vegetables that are acidic? I noticed when I ate strawberries and peaches it irritated my throat. All organic as well. What's your take on that? I have gastritis as well and the reflux and I'm wondering if it's due to taking ibprofen allot in my life from migraines etc. but I know I have to heal my gut but not sure about the acidic foods?? Thanks!

Replied by Anon

Yeah... Don't eat them if it is worsening your symptoms. But if it is just fresh fruit you are eating that is acidic maybe just drink water with a bit of baking soda (not baking powder) in it with the fruit to balance the acid. Like a pink of soda per glass of water per fruit meal.

Replied by Gypsy

Ok thanks! I will try that.