I wanted to share my experience with the Borax protocol for removing fluoride from the body. My theory was that my daughter's "non-24 hour sleep-wake syndrome" (very rare circadian rhythm sleep disorder) was caused by unintentional cumulative chronic fluoride intake (water), so we tried Borax to see if it would remove the fluoride and fix the problem. We gave her a tiny fraction of the recommended adult dosage because she is still quite young. Within about two months of gradually stepping up her dose (still not very much! ) she started sleeping at the same time every day (the non-24 hour disorder caused her to operate on a 25-hour internal clock and she went to bed an hour later and woke up an hour later each day). Now she has reverted back to the less severe "delayed sleep phase syndrome" going to bed very late, around 3am each day for the past month at least (which is how she slept before the shifting phase began). I could hardly believe it was working so I waited many weeks before getting too excited about what I was seeing. Nothing else we tried had made the cycle even budge. I believe she will eventually move to a more normal bedtime, which she has never yet been able to have in her first 3.5 years of life. When this happens, I will post updates!
My husband had the delayed sleep phase for most of his adult life and used the same protocol alongside my daughter. He now reports wanting to go to bed much earlier, rarely able to even stay up past midnight. He is reporting sleeping more deeply now as well. He has not even reached his full dose yet, as he does experience mild headaches when he increases his dose so he is going very slowly. I feel that his success with the Borax protocol is further proof that my daughter didn't just grow out of it.
I believe our fluoridated water also caused three of our pets to become ill with kidney failure type of symptoms and all died from this within just over a year's time frame (quite a coincidence). Now I wonder what else the fluoride has been doing to us, but at least we are doing something to reverse it. I urge everyone to look up the many, MANY sources of the fluoride scourge that esp. Americans are being assaulted with from all sides. Then, figure out how to avoid it (most water filters do not remove it). But esp. if you have some crazy sleep patterns, or you have been diagnosed with insomnia but feel you may have been misdiagnosed, please check into the fluoride toxicity issue. I hope this post helps someone!!!
A brief history. 7 years ago thyroid cancer, the next year adrenal fatigue then early menopause, the following year uterine prolapsed followed by hysterectomy- the following year fibromyalgia and neuropathy. Early Childhood was fluorinated water along with fluoride tablets. Fall of 2008 I was looking at total disability. I could barely walk and couldn't sleep because of the pain and was throwing up daily from the pain in my back. I was on many medications that gave me no relief and I have since found out that they had fluoride as a binding agent. I was sure that my life was over at 45, but thanks to Ted and Earthclinic I am almost at 100%. After reading about fluoride I came to understand where all of my problems originated. I had all the symptoms and reactions. It has been an uphill battle with my doctors and relatives, but you can't argue with a body that is almost pain free. I began the borax detox of 1/8 tsp in a liter of water and within 3 days my symptoms were almost gone. I watch everything I eat and can detect fluoride in vitamins, foods and drinks within 15 minutes of ingesting it. I still suffer from the neuropathy and some pain from the neuropathy but I am off all meds and I have my life. I only wish more people would try to understand the fluoride connections. My sister and mother both suffer with side effects of fluoride and I have only been able to influence my mother. I still borax 5 days on and two days off and give my body a break every month or so for about a week. Thank you :)
I'd like to say thank you so much to God for answering my prayers and thank you EarthClinic for helping to save my life. I have been so miserable with muscle pain, muscle twitching, jaw pain, constipation, dry eyes, dizziness, stomach pain, depression, anxiety, headaches, fatigue, itching all over even in my ears, pain under left shoulder blade, muscle contraction, and the list goes on. I have been terribly ill for over a decade. I have seen numerous doctors. At only 23 years old, several years ago the best advice one docter could give me was to start walking with a cane. Most docters wrote me off as a hypochondriac or tried to put me on anti-depressants.
I'm a yoga teacher, so I'm very in tune with my body. I just knew it wasn't "all in my head". I tried several different remedies on EarthClinic through the years and tried cutting out many different foods thinking I had a food allergy. It literally felt like I was allergic to every kind of food. However finally after constant prayer, a very patient husband, and years of research; I figured our that my sickness had worsened significantly in 2008 when parts of San Diego began putting fluoride in the water. The intial exposure came from growing up in Indianapolis, IN. And I became extremely sick in 2011 after the birth of my daughter (anesethia has fluoride) and when all of San Diego County started fluoridating their water.
After just one week of avoiding as much tap water as possible in food and drink and using a pinch of borax in reverse osmosis water, I feel like a different person. This IS a miracle! I had gotten to a very dark place. Even with the birth of my daughter, I had lost the will to live with so much pain. Just a heads up though, there have been several times where I took Lugol's iodine and the detox symtoms were utterly unbearable. Blessings!
I could be wrong but I don't think Activated Charcoal (AC) will help you with that.
From what I understand AC works by sticking to unwanted matter in your gut and aiding elimination. Fluoride poisoning is not restricted to your gut, it's systemic. I don't think AC has any effect to other parts of your body other than the inside of your digestive system. Does anyone else know?
Your words of love and gratitude taped to the glass you are drinking out will purify it instantly and turn the molecules into from dirty muddy ones into clean crystallized ones. It will purify the whole water plus get rid of the fluoride. See Dr Emotes water experiment and his rice experiment. Blessing your water and your food is really a free way of staying alive and healthy and now proven by science. However they will always try to discredit something that we can do for free because people don't make money out advocating this knowledge.
Fluoride in Water
If you read the latest reports from Harvard University you will find that there is no connection for Fluoride and prevention of tooth decay. Fluoride has nothing to do with teeth. This is a hoax. There are many other reports that say the same thing. Fluorided is banned in most of Europe, Russia and China. It's not good for you.
I'm a 26 year old male and I've done the borax to detox fluoride 6 times now over the last several years. I've found it improves my sleep, the vividness of my dreams and my mental clarity. I looked into getting my urine tested for F- ions (to prove if this method really does anything) but decided not to as it costs $200+
1/4 tsp 20 Mule Team Borax
1/8 tsp Himalayan Pink Salt
1 L bottle of Mountain Valley spring water (glass bottle)
*It takes effort to actually dissolve the borax all the way but this is crucial*
I drink the Liter of Borax water over the first 8 hours of the day along with plenty of other Fluoride-free liquids like spring or coconut water. Eating very clean is a good idea too. No sense adding more toxins to your stomach with the borax.
As far as side effects, I have noticed a slight flushing feeling and lightheadedness a few times. All in all, I feel that this method works. I'm alive and healthy and will continue to do this throughout my lifetime.
Can I use activated charcoal to rid my body including the bones of the build up of fluoride? Does activated
charcoal cleanse the body or treat the body for fluoride poisoning? Will a water filter with activated charcoal purify the water of fluoride? Right now I feel fine by it has done damage to my teeth and I can only imagine what shape my skeletal system is in. Please, if you can answer my questions or point me to someone who may be able to help me. I would be very appreciative of that.
Hi Michael, Everything I have read states charcoal will not remove fluoride from your body. You can verify this by searching this on the internet. Borax will however remove fluoride from your body. Earth Clinic has a ton of information on how to use Borax to remove fluoride. Be sure and take you time to read the info so you will completely understand the process and for how long. I think I read it was 6 months but not sure. Good luck.
Removing Fluoride Healed Pain
My name is Sheila. I'm a professional dance coach and former competitor. I became injured after my competition at the ESPN World Cup championships then I became more aware of nutrition health and other stuff and I came across the danger of fluoride. Then when I stop using fluoride my body started healing faster and the pain stopped in a very drastic way. Even the way my muscles and bones are structured began to improve during the healing.
Borax and Tamarind
I am no stranger to detox as my symptoms first started 20 years ago. My first big leap toward recovering came through sauna detoxification (using VC, mineral salts, and liver suppl. support) and an acupressure technique to reduce chemical and food resistance and allergies called NAET. Both are AMAZING safe therapies I highly recommend. These together, plus organic raw juicing literally saved my life at the age of 28 in one year's time.
My second huge leap forward was with a form of energy-based yoga called isha yoga--i do a kriya practice I learned in an 'Inner Engineering' class which is really easy to do, and it normalized a lot of my hormonal imbalances and got my body's rhythms back in sync. I've began practicing since the age of 33--almost 10 years without missing a single day. It's THAT good. This practice made my system stout and strong again in 3 months--to the point that I trekked in the Himalayas 6mths after I learned the kriya and since have travelled all over Asia and Tibet with a strong gut--I was helping OTHER people who were sick =).
So, I've been pretty fit for the last 10 years, eating vegetarian (not able to do organic in travel), travelling all over, and practicing yoga and meditation regularaly. In all my travels and activity etc, I was fine. It was when I came back and settled that I'd gotten a little lax on the pure water thing and started to have a few problems re-emerge--wasn't too bad, but it began to interfere with my yoga--mainly joint pain and mild hypo- thyroid symptoms.
My thyroid has always remained slightly enlarged on one side even though my symptoms of Hashimotos were very mild (almost no coldness, just mild skin dryness, and occasional fatigue). The thyroid got a big boost from my yoga practice, but my joints were still getting really crickety even though i'm practicing a couple hours of yoga asanas (postures and such) every day.
4 days ago I started the Borax protocol as well as the Tamarind and am having incredible results. I think this might just be the final piece to the detox puzzle. I hadn't taken fluoride that seriously, and my enviro doc 10 years ago never mentioned it as a concern. I'm betting the sauna cleared it with the other things back then and I never knew it was part of the problem.
I bought both a 'cosmetic grade' Borax powder and Tamarind paste at the Indian market. Both I am mixing with a little sea salt. These first days I've taken 1/24 tsp of Borax in 1/3 of a liter--basically 1/3rd the total quantityfor female adult and had the funk that followed--dizziness, lethargy, little nausea etc. The first day I did an Indian Rasam with tamarind, salt, little oil and cilantro also. After the two, I actually spiked a fever and the aching worsened, but I could tell it was a detox reaction. I can literally feel this stuff 'pulling'.
At day 4 with this tiny amount I've taken, my knee pain is about 80% better, low back pain is gone, neck and shoulders which were very tight are about 30-40% improved, and my energy has spiked up considerably. Truly amazing that a $2 product of natural mineral salt and the $3 paste of a fruit of a tree can be such a wonderful antidote.
It is interesting, because the Ayurvedic wisdom of ancient India has spread into the south India culture and held for millennia and one of their most common, daily soups--a 'digestive' by which they finish EVERY meal is the rasam that I made myself, which has simply tamarind paste, black pepper, cumin seed, a bit of dal, turmeric powder, salt which you boil hard together and then add lots of fresh UNCOOKED cilantro in at the end. Hmmmm... The yogis must have known all along =)
Best luck in your continued climb to the glowing health and exuberance that is your birthright. Thank you for hosting this forum for those who suffer needlessly for way too long.
Activated charcoal DOES NOT remove fluoride from water nor does it remove it from your body. There are only three things I am aware of used for fluoride removal and that is:
1)Activated Alumina - this is not rated for internal use nor do I presume that it would be safe.
2) Red Clay - There have been some studies published out of India where natural Red Clays were used to remove fluoride from water but it required that the water be in contact with the clay media for a minimum of 15 min. For absorption to take place. It is likely that a food grade red clay or even a food grade zeolite clay would be able to remove fluoride internally.
3) Reverse Osmosis - does remove fluoride from water. Additionally, as others here have mentioned, food grade sodium tetraborate (borax) has been shown in clinical trials to induce chelation of fluoride compounds from the body via the urine.
A responder to this post and other responders to other posts have suggested the use of reverse osmosis machines to remove fluoride. That will work. However there is a problem with these statements. Almost all of them will only remove a limited portion of the fluoride. Some as little as 30%. The best that I was able to find was a 98% removal rate. Email the company that produces the RO system you wish to buy before you buy and ask them to state the amount of fluoride it will remove as a percentage... You can then have a record in writing of their removal rate.
Check out the Pure Water Systems, Inc. , at purewatersystems.com. They seem to have the best RO system available.
It seems that everyone on this site has been very clear about the difference between boric acid and borax. If someone cannot read this and see what is clearly explained, then the problem is with them, not this site.
I think it's funny how scared people are of Borax just because it has a scary-chemical name. Borax is just a mineral. And the "lethal dose" of Boric Acid for rats is over 5 grams! For comparison's sake, the lethal dose of ordinary salt is 3.75grams. That is also easily found on Wikipedia. Salt just happens to have a less scary name. So, in conclusion... Don't EVER eat salt. It's toxic.
A woman's dose is 1/8, a man's dose is 1/4 dissolved in one liter of drinking water. I can't say much about this poster since sufficient details are not mentioned, except for the fact that he's prediabetic, which borax has a tendency to normalize blood sugar. So I find this posting fishy on many points. A lot of people through private emails actually take a much larger dose that this.
Loss of sex drive has never been reported except for fluoride. Most report an increase in sex drive. Most of the problems reported are associated with boric acid, not borax because boric is acid. Acid eats up kidney, whether it's boric acid or acid forming foods in general.
So I have many regrets on this email. A genuine poster would also email directly to me before posting them and give sufficient details. An intentionally fake poster will report unusual side effects, lacking in sufficient details, on Earth Clinic without telling me. So you can see why I find this a suspicious post.
EC: We had emailed Ted for more thoughts about this post. The above is his 2nd response...
Hanna Kroeger developed an herbal tea, its called Fluoride Tea, it literally saved my life and sanity 20+ years ago, I had some dental work done at a dental college where they gave me "fluoride treatments" for peridontial disease. Shortly after these treatments, developed what I call my brain swelling inside my skull or my skull was shrinking, extreme fatigue, brain "fog"...etc. I was told about a health food store and I went there, the proprieter, a former nurse, knew immediately when I told her of my symmptoms what was wrong, she sold me the Kroeger Tea with instructions on how to consume it... 4 cups spaced over my waking hours each day. I made a quart a day. My symptoms had diminshed almost to nothing within a week. We have a two stage water filter in our kitchen, one is for chlorine and the other for fluoride. It has made a huge difference in our lives, also use a non-fluoridated toothpaste.
Most of my adult life I've suffered from stomach problems. And in research of natural cures and flouride poisoning I came across this wonderful website. Anyway, I started the BORAX treatment for flouride because I've been having problems with my knees. I tell ya, I don't know if it's the power of the mind or what, but 2 days of the BORAX treatment and my knees that have been bothering me for the past two months stopped hurting and I can walk again without pain. Haven't tried anything for the stomach yet. But I will now. Expecially after coming across this website and PH levels in the stomach and flouride absorbtion. WOW! Check it out for yourself! http://jdr.iadrjournals.org/cgi/reprint/72/3/619.pdf
I have been living over seas for the past 6 months.
In regards to flouride. I have read extensively your articles. I would like to point out that you mention in one section that reverse osmosis bottled water such as Aquifina, etc are clean of flouride due to the fact that they are reverse osmosis filtered---HOWEVER I CAUTION YOU AND YOUR READERS---READ THE LABEL. Aquifina here in where I live and in the US last time I check had significant levels of Flouride AND Chlorine. While I cannot substantiate WHY it would I suspect it is because they are adding it AFTER filtering for "our benefit". I can tell you here even distilled water is curiously high in both flouride and chlorine AND IS MARKETED specifically for babies as "PURE Distilled water".
There has been a massive push in just the last 3 months here to add flouride to drinking water and almost every toothpaste that DID NOT have it, has now produced a version with it or even eliminated the non-flouridated product.
THIS is all being done ONLY under the guise that the American Dental Association has accepted flouride as a wonderful preventitive. I now wonder how many other widely accepted programs in foreign countries have' been created just because "America is doing it".
If only one thing, I stress again and again read the labels. You can at least keep yourself safe until they start taking the labels away, by then you should have your OWN water purification reverse osmosis or distiller to protect yourself if you do not already.
After reading the info on fluoride on Earth Clinic I realised that the onset of my severe hypothyroid symptoms of extreme fatigue, weight gain, hair loss etc. was caused by taking repeated doses of Flucanazole to prevent yeast during repeated antibiotics for acute asthma [healed after 90 days on Zithromax]. My TSH [thyroid stimulating hormone] is less than .01 which shows hyperthyroidism so I have had a hard time finding a doctor willing to treat me. Now I know it is because the fluoride inhibits the pituitary gland from producing TSH. I live in a fluoridated community so my exposure has been long term. For several years I have had reverse osmosis water but it is very disappointing to find there is no acceptable whole house removal system. It was recommended to me to take cool showers as skin absorption is greater than drinking. I am hoping to convince our city council to drop the fluoride. I was happy to hear that borax can be used for detox. Yesterday I mixed 1/8 tsp of borax and sea salt in one L of water. During the night I awoke with a headache. By morning it was so bad that I vomited the aspirin, snack and enzymes I took to combat it. I couldn't keep anything other than sips down without dry heaves until early evening.I am thinking that is a detox reaction. I am going to hold off another day and dilute it further. I currently take Armour Thyroid and about $400 of supplements, mainly enzymes to prevent reflux, keep spinal alignment, joint stiffness, fatigue, sinus infections, constipation, hair loss and all those other nasty hypothyroid effects. I was also taking the apple cider vinegar and baking soda [about 8 days now] at the same time so may be that was too much at once with the borax. I will keep you posted on my progress. Thank you for this wonderful website.
Better But With Side Effects
Ok, I thought to test Borax to eliminate Flouride poison because of drinking tea and municipal water and also to eliminate other parasites. As mentioned. Mixed quarter teaspoon of borax with 1 liter of water. Sipped it throughout the day.
I was just severely bloated the next day, I did not feel any positive change immediately. Then the second day I stopped drinking borax. May be the side effect is due to detox reaction.
However, the third day I really felt the body being very light, no feeling of heaviness. More energy. More clarity. It was great. I can really feel that the flourine was easily removed.
I did not continue this routine as the bloating is hampering my daily work. May be I will try again and explain detail.
Good Health. Thanks
Just a quick update on my progress. I have been rigorous about taking short showers, drinking distilled water, cooking with distilled water and eating raw foods when going out to eat. In short, for two months I've completely avoided fluoride and bromide as much as possible and my results are so good that I literally cannot BELIEVE this crap is added to our food and water supply. I have been ingesting this poison for 40 years, which I feel has been the primary cause for my Hashimoto's thyroiditis all along. I don't know what my ab titers are right now or my thyroid numbers, but I can tell the inflammation is way down and I feel so much better I can hardly believe it. One thing that has been interesting is that once I was off of the fluoride for about 3 weeks, if I ingested even a tiny amount of iodine even in my food I would have a hyperthyroid (ADD) kind of reaction. I couldn't figure it out at first, then I realized, without the fluoride/bromide suppression that had been there for years, the increased numbers of iodine receptors that developed in the enlarged gland to compensate for the blockage were now all available and over-stimulating. I actually began producing too much thyroid hormone. This lasted a couple of weeks but has leveled out now--I actually lost a little weight and had trouble sleeping at night from all that hyperactivity. Now that it has calmed down, I won't start taking any little bits of iodine again for maybe another month as needed to nourish the gland.
Another interesting thing is that I have been visiting a friend for about a month while going through all of this. One of her dogs had developed arthritis so bad she could barely move her hips and head. She told me she wanted to 'put her down' soon her suffering was getting so bad--she could barely stand up or lie down. So, I began to treat her with Borax too. At about 50lbs, I just adjusted her dose accordingly and began to add to all of her drinking water (tap water of course). Within THREE days, she lifted her head and began to move it normally. In three weeks time she is now running the back yard. While she was detoxing, I could tell she was experiencing the same detox funk--her eyes looked heavy and she was even stumbling a little, maybe a little bit dizzy? So I took the dose slowly and still such a dramatic response. Doesn't seem to have harmed her at all--in fact my friend said her urinary output and constipation have improved. My friend was so shocked because even the expensive vet she goes to had no treatment other than pain medication much more expensive than the Borax.
For removing flouride from your system, go straight to potassium iodine and borax -that's right, 20 mule team! Google them both and be amazed. Good Luck
To Mercedes: Another substance used for rat poison is a very high dose of vitamin D3. So high that it calcifies the soft tissues of rats, causing heart and kidney problems. Which, according to your logic, means we should stop all vitamin D supplements also. Not a good idea.
I found some really interesting ideas on health & balance in a book I read (Folk Medicine) by D.C. Jarvis written back in the 50s on all of the elements that compete for the receptor sites in the thyroid gland.
He explains the law of "halogen displacement" that shows how the relative atomic weight of the following: Flourine (19.0), Chlorine(35.5), Bromine (80.0) and Iodine (127.0) determines which one displaces the rest (if more than one are present in the body). Flourine will always displace chlorine, and Chlorine can displace both Bromine and Iodine. So, basically, Iodine is the underdog here and will always be displaced by those with a lower atomic weight.
His recommendations include avoiding chlorinated water, eating foods rich in iodine (cod liver oil and kelp along with certain vegetables) or taking Lugol's solution.
Thought this was worthwhile info to share!
Just a small correction.....the Doctors name is Dr. Emoto. There are some amazing videos on Youtube that seem to prove that our thoughts do affect our physical world.
Tamarind to remove fluoride poisoning. I have seen few documentaries about flouride poisoning.
In rural india where the natural spring water contains high amounts of fluoride.
People use to add a small amount of tamarind fruit, equivalent to half size of Golf Ball, in a pot of water overnight and use that water for drinking purpose.
A pot of water equal to a volume of 20 Liters. This added tamarind will remove or nullify the flouride poisoning in water.
Hi, I have seen the recommendation to add 1/4 tsp of Borax in a liter of water to leech out flouride. Is this amount of borax safe for children? My 7 yrs old girl just got diagnosed with mild Flourosis. I would like to give her the Borax-water combination. She weighs 43lbs(19. 5kg). Is it better to use the homeopathic remedy Borax 30C for children.
I have learned that pain is directly linked to acidosis and toxins in the body. After researching information from Dr. Robert Morse and Max Gerson and others I have followed their general advice to detoxify my body and use aluminum free baking soda to keep my PH above 7.0 and have started using the coffee enema to cleanse the liver. I am nearly pain free and have much improved health, no ringing in my ears, clearer thinking, no dizziness.
Incidentally, the LD50 (the dose at which half of the tested animals die, LD= Lethal Dose) of Boron is higher than ordinary table salt (that means less salt kills more rats). The Material Safety Data Sheet or MSDS for borax indicates: 'Low acute oral toxicity; LD50 in rats 4,500 to 6,000 mg/kg of body weight. No human studies or reports of adverse effects.
Compare to salt: Lowest Published Lethal Oral Dose in Man: 1000 mg/kg LD50 !! The MSDS reports: Acute oral toxicity for table salt, 3,000 mg/kg [Rat]. A lower number is more dangerous. Aspirin LD50=750 (mg/kg). Aspirin LD50 [rat] = 200!
And sorry, coffee drinkers, Caffeine =192 mg/kg [rat], even more toxic than aspirin, and way, way more toxic than borax!!