Natural Remedies for Edema (Swelling in the Tissues)

Dietary Changes

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Posted by Albularyo (Chatham, Ontario, Canada) on 04/26/2013
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For edema, it's not just sugar that needs avoiding, but all carbohydrates, in fact anything requiring Insulin to digest. What happens is that Insulin causes the kidneys to re-absorb salt and thus increases the water contents of the body. Historically humans were hunters and gatherers, they hunted the fattest animal they could find and they ate all of it, with very little else, ... And most importantly were able to live very healthy and energetic lives on that diet. Insulin was only needed for the little bit of fruits and vegetables they ate. Today's diet is the opposite from their's and some of us don't tolerate a mainly carbohydrate diet it all that well and end up diabetic and waterlogged, if not fat as well.

The upshot is, it takes only a few days on a NO-Carb diet and your waterlogged legs and feet will go back to normal. It's amazing to say the least.

Replied by Timh
(Louisville, Ky, Usa)
04/27/2013
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Also, there is another dietary problem at work here, the severe lack of the micro-mineral Chromium. Chromium deficiency causes an Insulin insensitivity. The cells are trying to incorporate the Insulin so they can burn glucose, BUT the absence of Chromium won't allow this otherwise simple function. I don't know how, but the spice Cinnamon also very much helps the body burn sugars.

The amino acid Taurine helps cells utilize minerals (opens the ion gates).

Replied by Kelly
(Seattle)
05/24/2023

Apparently you're unaware of the Kempner Rice Diet, devised by Dr. Walter Kempner back in the 40's - 60's. He CURED people of fatty liver, obesity, diabetes, and even diabetic retinopathy, using a diet of sugar, rice and fruit juice.

Sounds insane, but it worked for a majority of his patients!

https://fanaticcook.com/2018/11/04/sugar-does-not-make-people-fat-case-in-point-kempners-rice-and-sugar-diet/


Dietary Changes
Posted by Anon (Anon) on 02/02/2013
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My mom gets swelling in her hands from eating too much sugar. Try not eating sugar. Sugar is also said to reduce potassium from the body.


Distilled Water

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Posted by Josephine (Kansas City, Kansas) on 12/27/2007
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If you have any swelling in your knees or legs,stop drinking everything and drink only Distilled Water, I promise it will take the swelling away. Please try it for a week and see results. My knee was swollen and the doctor prescribes Steriods, and instead I did the distill water.

Replied by Cyann
(Akron, Oh)
06/30/2010

Was glad to see your report on distilled water. Needed help with swelling. Will give this a try. Thanks.

Replied by Stephanie
(Los Angeles, Ca)
11/27/2013
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Distilled water has been very helpful for me. I started using it June 1 2013 see a huge difference in my health, joint pain and well being.

Replied by Robert Henry
(Ten Mile Tn.)
11/28/2013

STEPHANIE, be careful, because distilled water will remove minerals from your body, especially calcium. You are flirting with osteoporosis.

Replied by Rsw
(Uniontown, Oh)
11/28/2013

Robert Henry,

I was hoping you would reply to Duke. Glad to hear you are doing well. I noticed your comment that distilled water removes minerals and wondered if RO water does the same thing? Hope not! Thanks and best wishes.

Replied by Robert Henry
(Ten Mile Tn.)
11/30/2013

YEP, RO WATER has all the minerals removed just like distilled water does. Our Anti-Aging doctor uses an RO SYSTEM because the Knoxville water has so many man made chemicals in it. She then has to supplement with minerals. We have well water and drink from an Alkaline Ionizer which gives us double the good minerals that is normally in the well water. I'm not that smart, but Google is. ======RH=======

Replied by Arlene Marie
(Jekyll Island, Ga)
06/13/2014

Distilled water removes only the inorganic minerals from your body which can cause all sorts of problems especially joint pain. DW will not remove any organic minerals. Do the research.

Replied by No Perscriptions Drugs For Me
(US)
09/11/2014

I don't understand how by drinking distilled water can remove anything from the body.

I can understand that by not replacing minerals into the body they will eventually deplete. But, that by drinking one hundred percent pure water, like it was when the earth was first made and the first dew gathered upon the grass how could that actively deplete a mineral.

We know that smoking activetly depletes many minerals and vitamins from the body. But that is an active process. In other words a man or woman has to smoke and the chemicals interact with the body and deplete the nutrients. But how can drinking water that is distilled deplete minerals?

Thank you.

Replied by Robert Henry
(St George Isl., Fl.)
09/12/2014

HI U NO DRUGS, , , , , , , , , , , , because you don't understand, does not mean it is not so. Pure water is a very strong solvent and because of what is known as hydrogen bonding it has an affinity for minerals to satisfy this ionic charge.

Like in paper mills, most industry uses steam in the process. A small amount of steam condenses in these pipelines and the water is called condensate and it is pure or distilled water. To remove, the steam line will have a line going down to a trap which removes this hot distilled water which then falls on concrete. After awhile, this distilled water will absorb the calcium ( or mineral) and a hole in the concrete will occur.

This phenomena also takes place in your body when you drink distilled water. Folks also don't appreciate that a double osmosis filter in your home will do the same thing.

Back in the ridges of Tennessee we use an alkaline water ionizer which doubles the amount of minerals that are normally in the water. We want the added minerals and the ionized structured water.

I hope this has shed some light as to why distilled water removes minerals from your body.

=====OLE ROBERT HENRY=======

Replied by Mama to Many
(Tennessee)
09/12/2014

Dear Robert Henry,

Thank you for explaining this. I have heard that one should not drink distilled water and now I understand why.

I was so happy to read your post yesterday about your vacation and resting etc. I am glad you are doing well.

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Helen
(Australia)
01/04/2018

False. Distilled water removes inorganic minerals, which your body can't use anyway. Organic minerals are immediately utilised. Be aware of this when buying mineral supplements: if they're not organic, they're not beneficial.

Replied by Ricardo A.
(Brazil)
11/02/2018

Osteoporosis is easily prevented or reversed drinking lots of vegetable juices including green leaves. It is a disease of people who do not like to eat fruit, green leaves and vegetables.

Kelly
(Seattle)
05/24/2023

Actually Ricardo, green veggies like spinach, etc., can make osteoporosis and other bone diseases worse, due to their high oxalate content.

A better solution is to do like our grandparents did -- make soup or broth from the bones, skins and tendons of the 'whole animal' -- chickens, cows, pigs, etc., -- and we'd have a lot less hip and knee replacement surgeries which have skyrocketed in the last 40 years. Even "kids" in their 30's and 40's are needing hip replacements...so sad.


Elana's Vegetable Soup

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Posted by Elana (Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada) on 02/27/2012
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This is good for edema... In a large stockpot place:

2 potatoes with skins, 3 carrots, 1/2 head cabbage, handful of fresh parsley, 1/2 bunch broccoli. Add lots of water and bring to boil till tender and drink the juice. I make enough for 2 days and drink at least a quart a day or whatever you like. It tastes so good and the feet swelling goes down. I make soup from the vegetables and that is yummy too!


Foot Massager

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Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn) on 02/26/2017
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FINALLY ADDRESSING EDEMA WITH SOME SUCCESS

HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN,,,,,,,,, as all know I fell and crushed my T 12 three years ago and have had edema since. Took diuretic pills, PT, lymph massage, etc. with little improvement.

Was told about the MED Foot Massager, bought it and again had little help until I did some study. The leg lymph system is fed from both sides of the T 12 vertebrae and I suspected the location of my leg lymph restriction. So about a week ago I began putting my feet on the machine and then sitting on the machine while on a bench. My feet, ankles and legs began to go down so I did the regimen morning and night . Now they are close to normal.

Guess by sitting on the massager my restriction is relieved and the lymph fluid can go on it's merry way.

As all know the lymph system is the sewer system for your cell waste. Without that waste being removed, you will absolutely not feel well. Also, physical movement or exercise is the only way it gets to move. Hopefully this massager has helped my problem and may give your some ideas if you have edema.

==========ORH==========


Fulvic Acid Complex

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Posted by Bill (San Fernando, San Fernando, Philippines) on 06/06/2011
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Hi Everyone... A little while ago, an old Filipino family member whom we know well was reported to be suffering quite badly from leg edema as well as particularly bad skin problems all over her body. She is an 84 y o grandmother matriarch who lives alone(by choice) in the Balamban mountains on Cebu Island in the Philippines. It's very primitive there, no electricity or hospitals. You can only get to where she lives by motorbike-taxi because the roads are so very poor and its far from Cebu city.

Anyway, her family in Cebu city were worried about her and so they contacted us. The grandmother is also a vegetarian and still very healthy -- she used to hike the mountains regularly but, because of the edema, now has problems just walking. The family wanted her to go into the hospital in Cebu, but she flatly refused because she hates cities.

The gist of this was that I sent her a fulvic acid product, which also contained zeolite, concentrated ascorbate and all the major electrolyte minerals for the body. To be honest this was a shot in the dark by me -- the description of her problem given by her family was very sketchy and non-specific -- so there could have been many other things causing her problems and so I just sent her the Fulvic acid complex in the hopes that it would work for her and have particular beneficial effects on her kidneys, liver and blood. The product -- which is taken in drops and is only sold in the Philippines -- is called Quantumin Plus. The dose I recommended was 10 drops two or three times a day with water or Tea. I have seen similar fulvic acid complexes sold in the US online.

Today, we have just received word -- after a month -- that her skin problems are now healing rapidly and the edema in her legs has reduced significantly. She has been taking no other medicines(she hates hospitals too). She is now able to walk normally and apparently continues happily tending her pigs and chickens as well as tending the small coconut forest in her garden. I simply remain astonished at the power and usefulness of this fulvic acid drops mixture.

Replied by Mary
(Yutan, Ne)
12/22/2013

Hi Bill from San Fernando I read your post about taking Quantumin Plus for edema. I just ordered me a bottle of this product that you talked about. I have edema in my right ankle & foot. Can tell me how much a person should take a day to help with the edema. Also do you know how long a bottle will last. Sincerely Mar

Replied by Bill
(San Fernando)
12/23/2013

Hi Mary...Since you only have edema in the right foot, then it is probably a local problem(not a body-wide problem) caused by a blockage in your lymph in the ankle region. So if you take bromelain (a protein digesting enzyme) 500 mgs outside mealtimes 3 time a day, this should help to remove the protein blockages in your right ankle and reduce the edema.

I would also take the Quantumin at 6 drops a day since this contains minerals and is also beneficially alkalizing for the body.

The 35 ml Quantumin bottle will last about 3 months.

Replied by Jhen
(Manila)
12/02/2015

Hi Bill, my mother is having a full blown edema because of heart failure/heart enlargement and other complications of diabetes. Do you think Quantumin Plus can cure those illnesses. We almost lose hope if she can still be cured.


General Feedback

Posted by Gigi (Ajax, Ontario) on 09/18/2014

I have been having swelling in my leg for over 12 years now. My doctors just ignore me when I complain. I found a pill called "LEG VEIN" by natures way in the bulk barn, I just thought I would try it and amazingly I feel no more pain. I am soooo grateful for this supplement. I can't wait to tell my doctor. I got no help whatsoever. I could not eat any protein my muscle would swell and hurt for days. Since taking these pills I am living a normal life. I am 58 this year and was giving up on all sports, been active all my life. I have to call the company and thank them. Thought I would share to help all who cannot get that answer from anyone, I have never been diagnosed. Nothing shows up on XRAYS. I am so happy now. I have never found anything specific on this site either. Happy to share this, you never know.


Ginger

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Posted by Stan (Auckland, New Zealand) on 01/06/2008
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My wife developed post-surgery DVT. acutely clogged circulation from the foot to the thigh. After 3 months of medical attention (and advice that she would have to live with it!), I suggested that she follow my ginger advice to at least improve circulation. At the same time I tried it for my chronic cold feet. Within 10 days things improved and she can now travel by plane without swollen feet! I was on 12 m of therapy for hypertension-Norvasc when its known side -effect of oedema became acute. In less than a week off N. but drinking green tea with ginger I was back to norma l(Green tea is also proven to ameliorate hypertension).

Replied by Diane
(Fairbanks, Alska, Usa)
06/17/2013

How much powdered ginger should I use in my gunpowder green tea to ameliorate the massive all over body swelling which my doctors say is lymphatic obstruction. However, no salt, mostly veggies and fruit (raw) with brown rice or sweet potatoes and sometimes bits of chicken AND their lymph breaking massages have not helped. I should mention this started after several surgeries repairing head, brain, neck and shoulder injuries from an accident. I am now allergic to chemically based allopathic meds. I think their meds has caused this problem. They have me now on insulin, metformin, glyburide, and 25 mg of HCTZ daily with 300 mg of potassium. (I also developed diabetes during all this). Can someone please help me? I still have a young son to care for and teach... I am practically bedridden with the severe swelling and pain. Yes. Walking makes it worse. The doctors measured my body water content and found that I am "... At least 41 pounds of water over what you should be carrying. " I drink 2-4 quarts of water per day. Any less and I start holding even more! All heart, lung, kidney, and liver functions show healthy normal. HELP!

Replied by Mena888
(New York, New York)
06/17/2013

Ginger is good ant-inflammatory agent and will also soothe an upset stomach. If you are able to get access to fresh ginger, I think that you should use it instead. To make ginger tea, just peel and grate a small piece and boil with water. Add some honey to it.

Green tea and ginger are good separately. I think that you should experiment with how much ginger you can tolerate if you are adding to green tea. To me, powdered ginger tastes different and not as palatable as fresh.

Let me know how this works you.


Grape Vine

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Posted by Fran (Rocky Face, GA) on 01/12/2007
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Someone ask if we knew anything for Edema. I worked as a herbalist for years and I remember the day a lady came into the office to tell me the story that another herbalist had healed her of Edema, he told her to go to the woods and cut a grape vine, which I believe to be those long vines hanging off the trees in the woods, but I am not sure myself. anyway, he told her to start a fire with a piece of tin on top and put the vines on it until they turned to ashes and take 1 tsp in water and she would never have this problem again.... Please know I knew this lady was truthful but even she couldn't remember the amount so I am unsure of the safety...


Increase Energy-Production Pathways

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Posted by Swfowkes (Cupertino, California) on 03/11/2017 46 posts
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Treating edema by increasing energy-production pathways:

The most common underlying cause of edema is hypometabolism, or low basal metabolic rate. The reason that it plagues young women more than young men is that young men have a higher metabolic rate. Women have a higher estrogen influence earlier in life, which down-regulates metabolic rate (and raises maximum lifespan). But when men get old, they often have higher estrogen than their post-menopausal wives--and develop edema.

Most of the treatments for edema mentioned here raise metabolic rate, and most things that raise metabolic rate ease edema. Lipoic acid is a mitochondrial nutrient that stimulates metabolic rate inside your body's power plants. So can coQ10, carnitine, B1, B2, B3, NADH, coconut oil, MCT oil, ketosis (fat-burning metabolism), exercise (aerobic only), breathing, and negative ions (from a shower, waterfall or surf). These are bottom-up effects, enhancing metabolism from the ground up.

Your body's metabolic rate is also influenced by top-down mechanisms. Thinking positive thoughts, cultivating happiness, sleeping soundly, having a great sex life, relaxing, escaping traps (toxic jobs or relationships), and looking forward to waking up each morning can also raise metabolic rate. And the specific mechanisms of neuroendocrine regulation include steroids (progesterone and testosterone are up-regulators, and estradiol and estrone are down-regulators), corticosteroids (low cortisol is an edema trigger), and thyroid hormone. Most people with edema will read the symptoms of hypothyroidism and go, "yep, yep, maybe, yep, OMG yes, yep, maybe, yep" as they read them. See the thyroid one-pager on the Steve page at Project Wellbeing (dot com) if you don't want to track them down on one of a hundred pages on the internet.

Since insulin resistance is so common in our society and since it causes low metabolism when eating a carb-replete diet, ketosis can relieve edema in a sustained way. After being in ketosis for many days, the insulin-resistance threshold begins to lower and carb-based energy pathways begin to increase.

Two last things to mention in this brief intro: one is body temperature as a sign of hypometabolism and the other is nutritional deficiencies related to hypometabolism. Most people with hypometabolism have a low body temperature and low pulse rate. This is something you can monitor, and track over time, to see if the remedies that work (and do not work) are associated with subtle increases (or not) in body temperature. Lastly, some of the most prevalent nutritional deficiencies in modern society are directly associated with hypometabolism. Magnesium deficiency, vitamin D deficiency and B-complex vitamin deficiencies are three that first come to mind.

To reliably track your body temperature requires a good thermometer (electronic ones are unreliable), and the right timing. Early morning body temperature just before getting out of bed is the best indicator of basal metabolic rate, because it minimizes muscle contributions, digestive contributions and adrenal contributions. If you are not fortunate enough to still have a mercury thermometer in your possession now that they are illegal to sell retail, use a gallium thermometer or import a mercury thermometer to act as your temperature reference standards. Electronic thermometers can work OK if you know how to interpret their results by periodic comparison to a mercury or gallium thermometer--or a fertility thermometer.

If you do not want to be bothered with verifying the connection between your metabolic rate and your edema, you can simply correlate the easing of your edema symptoms with your subjective feelings of your energy levels, strength, stamina and mental clarity.


Lemon

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Posted by Susan (Humboldt, Tn) on 07/06/2011
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water with fresh lemon juice every morning will help with your ankles swelling. before anything else.... I drink some lemon water and my swelling has not been near as bad. Blessings


Lemon
Posted by Rita (Cleveland, Ohio) on 06/16/2011
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Hello to everyone with the problem of swelling in the leg, ankel, and feet. I drink hot lemon aid (no sugar) twice a week. Squeeze the juice from a real lemon half cup of water heat and drink 2/3 time a week (real lemon juice is a natural diaretic) I learned this a a weight clinic and it really works!!!


Limiting Carbohydrates

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Posted by Albularyo (Chatham, Ontario Canada) on 05/13/2013
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Ankle swelling can be sign of glucose intolerance. Replacing carbohydrates with proteines and fat can reduce the edema dramatically. To find out whether you are Glucose intolerant, avoid eating anything requiring Insulin to digest for a couple of days. I.E., instead have a nice meat dish accompanied by a Greek style salad of various raw greens, mixed with tomatoes, topped with crumbled Feta cheese and sliced hard boiled egg, and plenty of Balsamic Vinegar and an equal amount of olive oil for energy. If the edema does not go down dramatically within those 2 days, discount Glucose intolerance as a cause.


Limiting Carbohydrates
Posted by Edemasufferer (Port Townsend, Wa) on 12/02/2012
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For the past 5 years, I have lived with edema in my left leg. I tried everything from lympathic massage and acupunture to Western medicine ( diuretics and a salt free diet). Nothing worked. Then, I found diet that has almost completely cured the edema, which I hope will help others that are suffering. I limit my carbohydrates to a max of 30 grams a day: every meal consists of low carb vegtables, protein and fat. No starch, no sugar, (no fun! ), but the edema has radially reduced in the past 30 days. I also supplement with the herb cleavers twice a day. I was not a "believer" when I first heard about this working for my condition. Obviously, I now think differently. Hope this helps.

Replied by Mela
(Kuwait)
03/12/2016

Hi.. I would like to ask if how is your left leg as of today? Did the low carb diet help cure your edema? My case is similar with you.. 5 years edema on my left leg (until today) and still trying to find the perfect cure aside from surgery..

Replied by Leander
(Indianapolis, Indiana)
02/28/2018

Hello!

I found your remedy to be very interesteng. My edema is a result of having Kaposi Sarcoma. Do you know if this will work in my situation.? My immune system is very weak, it's building back with help of medicines. Thanks for any input on helping me get this fluid out faster. Doctors have only have me try compression garments with physical therapy. It's helped to a certain point. Trying to get further progress.

Very needed advise,

Leander


Low Fat Diet, Avoid Pain Relievers

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Posted by Nothy (Toronto, On) on 08/21/2019
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I went on a low fat diet (dr macdougal plan) and my edema disappeared. I also lost about 10 pounds in 6 weeks, which likely helped. As stated by another reviewer, I noticed that the edema flared when I was taking an otc pain reliever, naproxin.



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